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Title: Episode 310
Post by: BERSERK_KIT on January 07, 2010, 06:02:43 PM
Title: 幽霊船③ - Ghost ship 3 (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/)




I have checked at Young Animal website and found this: YA ad 1 (click) (http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx41/BERSERK_KIT/Untitled-1.jpg)

and...THIS!!!
(http://i740.photobucket.com/albums/xx41/BERSERK_KIT/BeRuSeRuKu.jpg)

so can infer that BERSERK Episode 310 will come out on 22nd January 2010
 :ubik: :ubik: :ubik:

(sorry for my English writing skill)
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 07, 2010, 06:28:03 PM
I made the OP work safe for those of us viewing this stuff at work  :casca:

This seems a little indirect of a confirmation. What's the nature of this advertisement? Is what you highlighted actually a listing of the series that will be in the 1/22 edition of YA, or just a listing of all the titles associated with Young Animal? Because that seems a really long list for an average edition of the magazine.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: BERSERK_KIT on January 07, 2010, 06:52:37 PM
I made the OP work safe for those of us viewing this stuff at work  :casca:

This seems a little indirect of a confirmation. What's the nature of this advertisement? Is what you highlighted actually a listing of the series that will be in the 1/22 edition of YA, or just a listing of all the titles associated with Young Animal? Because that seems a really long list for an average edition of the magazine.

On YA No.2's ad like this No.3's ad had many name of series but had not BERSERK on it.

And YA No.3 had raise the price from 310円 to 410円
so it is higly possible that this issue could increase number of the series in the magazine.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Griffith on January 07, 2010, 08:54:26 PM
Well, confirmation or not, I'm just happy we have cause for a 310 thread in '010 (and hey, I just discovered we can keep doing the 'O whatever abbreviation for the year, alright =).
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Dar Klink on January 07, 2010, 09:03:35 PM
Yeah, just seeing the Episode 310 thread really raised my spirits! :ubik: Guess we'll know soon enough, but having a sort of placeholder for it already feels good. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 07, 2010, 10:04:43 PM
Wohoo, we have a 310 thread. If this information is correct, we may just get to see Guts in action in just a few weeks :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on January 07, 2010, 10:33:52 PM
Yeah, it's cool to hear that!
I can't wait to see good old Guts back in action! :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 08, 2010, 12:46:04 PM
BERSERK_KIT's deduction is correct, Berserk should be in YA n°3. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Saephon on January 08, 2010, 01:47:35 PM
 :ubik: 2010 is going to be a great year for both Berserk and Vagabond. *eagerly awaits new YA*
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on January 08, 2010, 04:28:48 PM
Good eye, Berserk_Kit! Also, thanks for the verification, Aaz!

I cannot wait to read the next episode.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 08, 2010, 04:29:46 PM
Thanks for posting the great news, BERSERK_KIT! :serpico:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Griffith on January 08, 2010, 06:01:55 PM
Awesome news, and nice detective work here! :ubik:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 08, 2010, 08:11:09 PM
CRAP! Whenever user activity on this forum goes up, my productivity at home goes down!  :we don't have a 'crap!-this-is-bad!' emoticon:

I'm excited about the confirmation for episode 2010.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Bekul on January 08, 2010, 11:37:09 PM
:we don't have a 'crap!-this-is-bad!' emoticon:

 :magni:

Hell of excited for this!
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Konketsuji on January 09, 2010, 12:33:05 AM
This is so great I just can't wait!  :ubik:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 09, 2010, 01:10:48 AM
:magni:

Hell of excited for this!

I view that emoticon more as helpless terror.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on January 09, 2010, 09:32:51 AM
 :isidro: Oh, crap, this is bad?  :isidro:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aphasia on January 10, 2010, 07:46:12 PM
I'm SO totally stoked for this.  I've been craving new berserk more than mint chocolate icecream.  :mozgus:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 16, 2010, 05:03:39 PM
well only a few more days to wait until the excitement! I can't wait for this one to come out! The sword, the armour, the monsters... ahhhh sorry guys I just needed to let it out!  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Oburi on January 16, 2010, 05:45:29 PM
well only a few more days to wait until the excitement! I can't wait for this one to come out! The sword, the armour, the monsters... ahhhh sorry guys I just needed to let it out!  :guts:

Yea I can't wait. How do you guys think it will play out? Do you think Guts will have any trouble beating these things? Will the pirate captain finally be defeated for good in the next few episodes?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: perros on January 16, 2010, 06:17:53 PM
Great news.

So is it too early to think that it's going to be regularly serialized?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 16, 2010, 07:20:10 PM
Great news.

So is it too early to think that it's going to be regularly serialized?
In order to say so definitively, yes, it's too early. But based on Miura's prior release schedule, (http://skullknight.net/images/eps.html) I think we can expect at least 2-3 episodes before going on another break.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 16, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
In order to say so definitively, yes, it's too early. But based on Miura's prior release schedule, (http://skullknight.net/images/eps.html) I think we can expect at least 2-3 episodes before going on another break.

I keep meaning to favourite that link each time you post it and finally I have. It's actually quite worrying to see his longer breaks becoming more frequent as time goes on. If the decline carries on we will end up with a new volume every two years.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Xem on January 17, 2010, 12:33:56 AM
I keep meaning to favourite that link each time you post it and finally I have. It's actually quite worrying to see his longer breaks becoming more frequent as time goes on. If the decline carries on we will end up with a new volume every two years.

I'm pretty sure somewhat recently Miura commented on, and I'm paraphrasing, how painstaking the latest events in Berserk were for him. And assuming now that we're past that, he can rest a little more (hopefully). I'd assume that means he's going to naturally pick up the pace a bit, but don't quote me on that.

I for one hope Miura takes a vacation soon if he hasn't already. I know he loves his life, but he's overworked.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 17, 2010, 12:51:17 AM
I'm pretty sure somewhat recently Miura commented on, and I'm paraphrasing, how painstaking the latest events in Berserk were for him. And assuming now that we're past that, he can rest a little more (hopefully). I'd assume that means he's going to naturally pick up the pace a bit, but don't quote me on that.

I for one hope Miura takes a vacation soon if he hasn't already. I know he loves his life, but he's overworked.

I would have thought the breaks he has, consisted of vacational time? I could be wrong. Miura isn't getting any younger the poor guy. I know the fans speak about the pace of which he puts out each episode and volume as if it should be done almost overnight and not many of them appreciate the amount of painstaking work he puts in (which I highly appreciate).

I do fear that sometimes that Miura finds himself in such an uneven balance of pace and can push himself a little too hard. 16 hours a day is a little unnatural if you ask me, but I guess that once he's got his head down then it's hard to give up and move it over to the next day incase it leads to sacrificing quality. But if he were to make it 8 hours a day with fewer breaks I can't help but think it might hold a different more consistent pace and that he might find it easier to cope. But then that's a hard thing to assess when you're a fan on the other side of the world with no true insight into his personal behaviour.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 17, 2010, 05:18:26 AM
I would have thought the breaks he has, consisted of vacational time? I could be wrong.
Yes, you're wrong.  :schierke: This misinformation has been corrected dozens of times. Here's a highlight reel.

And you seem to be mistaken like many people are about Miura's breaks. He doesn't take vacations, he just concentrates on the plot and the development of the story for a while, thus taking a break from the regular production of episodes. He may also use that time to paint covers or color illustrations, create new character designs, or work on various other stuff (games, etc).
But, we already know that while on these breaks, Miura is working on the plot and story sequences.
You should know that the breaks in the prepublication used to be principally to plan the plot development (and it might still be the case for all we know).
His breaks are usually to work on the plot, but this time it's different.
He plans them all in advance (plot, progression of the story, dialogue, new characters, etc.) during his usual breaks, and works on drawing episodes individually on a two weeks basis (6 days a week). Nothing really unusual, but it takes a lot of work to make a series as refined and polished as Berserk. Miura doesn't draw 10 episodes in a month to then spend 5 months in boobieland paradise.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 17, 2010, 08:16:28 AM
Ok, so I dont read every post, Sorry. I didn't expect it to be correct, you would just assume that a guy working as hard as Miura would try to have a little 'me' time.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 17, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
I'm pretty sure somewhat recently Miura commented on, and I'm paraphrasing, how painstaking the latest events in Berserk were for him. And assuming now that we're past that, he can rest a little more (hopefully). I'd assume that means he's going to naturally pick up the pace a bit, but don't quote me on that.

Miura says that the chapter that he was the busiest with and that progressed the slowest is finally finished! (He means the Chapter of Falconia, for those who still have trouble making the episode/chapter difference.) If we're lucky, that'll mean less extended breaks.

Now, whether or not we'll progressively get less breaks is just a guess at this point. Elfhelm being such an important part of the story, he might also have to progress slowly in order to be sure it meets his expectations in terms of high quality.

I for one hope Miura takes a vacation soon if he hasn't already. I know he loves his life, but he's overworked.

Well, that's just how he does things. He's supposed to only work 6 days a week, but it's hardly respected. For example, in YA n°23 of 2004 he said he'd only taken one half-day off in the past 2 months, and hadn't taken 2 consecutive days off in 4 years. Not surprisingly he had to take a forced rest for medical reasons at the time. But that's nothing new, in YA n°12 of 1993 he was down with a high fever (40°C) and commented that he'd only taken 2 days off that year so far. He had reported losing 5 kg a month later. And by the end of the year, in YA n°23, he stated he'd slept an average of 4 hours a day for the past 2 months.

As you can imagine the list goes on, though he's never been one to complain about it. You should also keep in mind the profession of mangaka requires a lot of work in general. Miura's case might be extreme but it's in line with the norm. And more generally, Japanese society is well-known for the amount of dedication people have for their jobs (think of the stereotypical salaryman). That being said, Miura himself is clearly a perfectionist and a workaholic. But you know, as long as he's happy, it's not our place to pretend we know what's best for him.

I know the fans speak about the pace of which he puts out each episode and volume as if it should be done almost overnight and not many of them appreciate the amount of painstaking work he puts in (which I highly appreciate).

I don't call these people "fans", personally.

I do fear that sometimes that Miura finds himself in such an uneven balance of pace and can push himself a little too hard. 16 hours a day is a little unnatural if you ask me, but I guess that once he's got his head down then it's hard to give up and move it over to the next day incase it leads to sacrificing quality. But if he were to make it 8 hours a day with fewer breaks I can't help but think it might hold a different more consistent pace and that he might find it easier to cope.

Hahaha, that paragraph is cute because he works 16 hours a day during the breaks, too. Makes you wonder, eh?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 17, 2010, 11:29:59 AM
Hahaha, that paragraph is cute because he works 16 hours a day during the breaks, too. Makes you wonder, eh?

Even during the breaks?  :isidro: Did Miura base Guts' determination and stamina on himself?

EDIT: Oh and as for the "Fans" comment, I guess "observers" would be more appropriate?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 17, 2010, 11:39:43 AM
Even during the breaks?  :isidro:

Of course. That's why we call them "breaks in the prepublication" and not "vacations". A "break" simply means that the release of episodes in Young Animal is halted. That's usually because Miura is working on something other than the very next episode, like for example on later events (planning the story in advance). For all we know during this break he could have been working on Casca's awakening. Think about that.

Did Miura base Guts' determination and stamina on himself?

Well, one could argue an author always reveals something about himself in his work. :slan:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 17, 2010, 12:23:13 PM
For all we know during this break he could have been working on Casca's awakening. Think about that.


Yeah, it kind of blows your mind a little thinking how he could be planning so far ahead. It's one thing to be an author, but to see it through as a fantastic artist aswell really speaks volumes about the ingenuity of Miura.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 17, 2010, 01:18:42 PM
Yeah, it kind of blows your mind a little thinking how he could be planning so far ahead. It's one thing to be an author, but to see it through as a fantastic artist aswell really speaks volumes about the ingenuity of Miura.

Here's a little game: let's try to list some of the things Miura might have to think of or create for Elfhelm.

- One or more exotic environments and everything associated (flora, fauna, even architecture if there's a kind of city)
- At least one new type of elves (different from piskies like Puck)
- Individual elves that stand out from the mass (King of the Flower Storm among others)
- The elfin society, how it's organized, how they all live together
- A lot more details about elves than we've had so far, including their culture, history and attitude toward humans, as well as their opinion on what is happening to the world
- More details on the Berserk world, similar to what we got in volume 24
- More details on the history of the Berserk world
- Peculiar humans characters living among elves

And then there's the more character-oriented side of things.

- The end of the journey for the group and what that represents
- Puck's return home, he and Ivalera's interactions with other elves
- Casca's illness and its possible cure: explanations on how it works, what is required to end it, possible dilemmas on various levels
- After an issue is reached for Casca: in-depth reaction of every character to it
- Self-interrogations for everyone, doubts, change in relationships, decisions as to what each character will do next

Of course that's ignoring the rest of the world and what will be happening to it.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 17, 2010, 02:19:39 PM
- More details on the history of the Berserk world

This makes me consider how much thought must go into continuity alone. Miura has to consider every little last thing Puck may have said about Elfhelm at the very least to make sure it all matches up when it comes around.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Oburi on January 17, 2010, 03:33:33 PM
Here's a little game: let's try to list some of the things Miura might have to think of or create for Elfhelm.

Of course that's ignoring the rest of the world and what will be happening to it.

Yea, in that light it really puts things into perspective about how much careful planning is needed so that the story works.

Some other developmeants include the group learning what has been happening in the world while they have been out at sea. They don't yet know what happened to Ganishka or the fact that Falconia has now appeared. And how will the news be brought to them if it is, will Skully meet them in Elfhelm? I would be interested in getting more info on the berserker armour too. Also, will Guts open up to the rest of the group about his past? That's one of the biggest developments I'm looking forward too, and I have a feeling it will be happening soon.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 17, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
Also, will Guts open up to the rest of the group about his past? That's one of the biggest developments I'm looking forward too, and I have a feeling it will be happening soon.

Yeah, in Elfhelm it will eventually become inevitable.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 17, 2010, 06:22:26 PM
I think that has to be one of the next big things i'm seriously looking forward to, other than Casca's 'Awakening' as i'm just curious to see how everyone will react. The question is, will he share it before or after Casca goes through the healing process?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Chaos on January 18, 2010, 01:31:41 AM
I think that has to be one of the next big things i'm seriously looking forward to, other than Casca's 'Awakening' as i'm just curious to see how everyone will react. The question is, will he share it before or after Casca goes through the healing process?

A thought that just occurred to me, is how in fact will she be "awakened"? I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I'm curious to see if it will be something instantaneous, similar to when the layers merged, or if it will be something gradual, to sort of "ease her" into the present since the eclipse.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 18, 2010, 01:44:16 AM
My guess is that it will be something initiated by the Elf King that she'll have to resolve internally, much like when Lady Jessica ingests the poisonous water in Dune. It'll be up to Casca herself to awaken and accept the painful memories buried in her mind.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Saephon on January 18, 2010, 03:31:49 AM
My guess is that it will be something initiated by the Elf King that she'll have to resolve internally, much like when Lady Jessica ingests the poisonous water in Dune. It'll be up to Casca herself to awaken and accept the painful memories buried in her mind.

I've considered the same. In my head I picture something similar to when Schierke journeys inside Guts and obtains an understanding of his inner struggle. Whether it's like that or not, I very much doubt her awakening will be instantaneous or externally visible only.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: fresh on January 18, 2010, 05:52:31 AM
A thought that just occurred to me, is how in fact will she be "awakened"? I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I'm curious to see if it will be something instantaneous, similar to when the layers merged, or if it will be something gradual, to sort of "ease her" into the present since the eclipse.

There is also the chance that the Elf King may refuse to help her.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 18, 2010, 08:05:46 AM
I've considered the same. In my head I picture something similar to when Schierke journeys inside Guts and obtains an understanding of his inner struggle. Whether it's like that or not, I very much doubt her awakening will be instantaneous or externally visible only.

Speaking of which, I had never considered the possibility of Schierke trying this with Casca herself. I'm sure anyone could argue that Casca's madness is different than the madness which guts experiences when Schierke has pulled him back. However, if you recall a scene from volume 23, when casca is being assaulted bt the 3 men, all she begins to see are monsters, similar how guts views his surrounded. She then went on to kill the interpretations of monsters, as guts often does.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 09:43:30 AM
Speaking of which, I had never considered the possibility of Schierke trying this with Casca herself. I'm sure anyone could argue that Casca's madness is different than the madness which guts experiences when Schierke has pulled him back. However, if you recall a scene from volume 23, when casca is being assaulted bt the 3 men, all she begins to see are monsters, similar how guts views his surrounded. She then went on to kill the interpretations of monsters, as guts often does.

Casca had such visions before volume 23 (check episode 140), and they're more indicative of her traumatic memories being triggered than anything else. She has a psychological trauma, while in Guts' case his perception is obscured or distorted by the armor. Completely different causes, regardless of how each phenomenon is illustrated.

What Schierke does when Guts is under the armor's influence is to try to counter said influence (by clearing his vision from inside the armor in volume 31) or to shake him from it (talking to his inner self that was protected from destruction by Flora's seal in volume 27). And each time was a close call and depended on luck and exterior factors, so blindly attempting to mess with Casca's mind would be utterly irresponsible and very dangerous for all parties involved.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Highborne on January 18, 2010, 11:08:07 AM
I've always felt sceptical about the whole Elf King helping Guts business.. I mean.. do they even want branded ones in their realm? Why would he want to help them?

Of course, a revelation mentioning Guts as a kind of savior would be alright imo ;)

I'm beginning to think that Casca will loose all memorys in the eventual awakening..
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 11:39:36 AM
I've always felt sceptical about the whole Elf King helping Guts business.. I mean.. do they even want branded ones in their realm? Why would he want to help them?

Why wouldn't he want to?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: perros on January 18, 2010, 11:41:32 AM
Here's a little game: let's try to list some of the things Miura might have to think of or create for Elfhelm.

- One or more exotic environments and everything associated (flora, fauna, even architecture if there's a kind of city)
- At least one new type of elves (different from piskies like Puck)
- Individual elves that stand out from the mass (King of the Flower Storm among others)
- The elfin society, how it's organized, how they all live together
- A lot more details about elves than we've had so far, including their culture, history and attitude toward humans, as well as their opinion on what is happening to the world
- More details on the Berserk world, similar to what we got in volume 24
- More details on the history of the Berserk world
- Peculiar humans characters living among elves

And then there's the more character-oriented side of things.

- The end of the journey for the group and what that represents
- Puck's return home, he and Ivalera's interactions with other elves
- Casca's illness and its possible cure: explanations on how it works, what is required to end it, possible dilemmas on various levels
- After an issue is reached for Casca: in-depth reaction of every character to it
- Self-interrogations for everyone, doubts, change in relationships, decisions as to what each character will do next

Of course that's ignoring the rest of the world and what will be happening to it.

I think Schierke and maybe even Farnese will learn a new ability to help, in particular, Guts and Casca.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Highborne on January 18, 2010, 11:53:13 AM
Why wouldn't he want to?

It might be a little clichéd.. but well.. Isent it natural to feel threatened by these visitors? Havent they be hiding their island for not getting unwanted attention. And 2 branded persons do attract a lot of attention.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 12:08:18 PM
I think Schierke and maybe even Farnese will learn a new ability to help, in particular, Guts and Casca.

I think all characters are likely to improve or develop new skills during their stay.

Isent it natural to feel threatened by these visitors?

Not necessarily. Elves can read people's minds, so they'll know their visitors' intentions. And the group is accompanied by 2 elves in the first place. Besides, we know from what Puck said that humans live or have lived there. If there's any apprehension at first it shouldn't last very long.

Havent they be hiding their island for not getting unwanted attention.

That's not how it's put in the story. Normal people can't (couldn't?) reach it because it's in the Interstice.

And 2 branded persons do attract a lot of attention.

Attention from whom? It's not like Griffith has been very proactive in coming after Guts and Casca so far. Besides, don't forget it was Puck who suggested they head there so that Casca would be sheltered (that's right, don't forget the reason they journeyed to Elfhelm was to be safe from "unwanted attention" in the first place). He wouldn't have proposed it if he knew they wouldn't be welcome there. Lastly, it's the Skull Knight who told Guts the King of the Flower Storm might be able to cure Casca. I doubt he'd have said that if it had just been a remote possibility. Elves tend to be good natured, remember.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Highborne on January 18, 2010, 12:39:54 PM

That's not how it's put in the story. Normal people can't (couldn't?) reach it because it's in the Interstice.

Well its kinda hidden then;)

Attention from whom? It's not like Griffith has been very proactive in coming after Guts and Casca so far.

So far indeed.
And well.. Hasent Puck been away from the old lands a long, long time.. Things might have changed. I for one do not think that they will arrive in a candyland of happiness and joy.

(hope I don't screw up with the quoting :P)
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: perros on January 18, 2010, 01:17:08 PM
It might be a little clichéd.. but well.. Isent it natural to feel threatened by these visitors? Havent they be hiding their island for not getting unwanted attention. And 2 branded persons do attract a lot of attention.


Elfhelm could already be under siege, so maybe there won't be time to dilly dally with one-another.

Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 01:23:52 PM
Well its kinda hidden then;)

But not because they are hiding from something branded people would attract, which is what you were saying.

So far indeed.

And? Do you think this supports your point that the King of the Flower Storm will somehow refuse to help with Casca's condition?

And well.. Hasent Puck been away from the old lands a long, long time..

We don't know how long he's been away from Elfhelm.

Things might have changed.

Nothing hints at it in the story.

I for one do not think that they will arrive in a candyland of happiness and joy.

We'll see.



On another topic, following discussions I had with Walter: what do you guys and girls think of the possibility of a new character joining the group in Elfhelm? And beyond that, what kind of character do you think would be interesting? A magic user whose style would differ from Schierke's? A new type of elf? An astral creature the group would keep as a pet?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: JezzaX on January 18, 2010, 01:28:50 PM
Am I the only one who has this visual image of the elves of Elfhelm being much like the villagers in Willow in their generosity and kind hearted behaviour? yes? ok then

Still, although Elves have been described as good natured, they all have their own personalities and not all of them can be as caring as Puck. At least one of them is bound to make things a little bit difficult for the group by being a pain in the arse somehow.

On another topic, following discussions I had with Walter: what do you guys and girls think of the possibility of a new character joining the group in Elfhelm? And beyond that, what kind of character do you think would be interesting? A magic user whose style would differ from Schierke's? A new type of elf? An astral creature the group would keep as a pet?

Depending on how Casca reacts when/if she comes out of her current state, I think it would be great to see her back in armour again and maybe with a nice gift from the magic users to give her an upper hand in battle.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 01:37:25 PM
Am I the only one who has this visual image of the elves of Elfhelm being much like the villagers in Willow in their generosity and kind hearted behaviour? yes? ok then

Well that's how elves have been described in the manga. Carefree and mischievous, but good-natured and kind-hearted.

Still, although Elves have been described as good natured, they all have their own personalities and not all of them can be as caring as Puck. At least one of them is bound to make things a little bit difficult for the group by being a pain in the arse somehow.

Everything's possible at this point.

Depending on how Casca reacts when/if she comes out of her current state, I think it would be great to see her back in armour again and maybe with a nice gift from the magic users to give her an upper hand in battle.

Casca doesn't count since she's already part of the group. If you want to speculate about her return though, why not try to guess what special ability or object she could obtain to have an edge in battle?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Turkitage on January 18, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
That being said, Miura himself is clearly a perfectionist and a workaholic. But you know, as long as he's happy, it's not our place to pretend we know what's best for him.

yeah, very good point. A good bit of people do similar things (not as drastic but similar), but honestly when you are in the zone and in a mind set you just want to keep going and even though it could pushes yourself you know it's all worth it when you are done.

and of course I'm very excited about this eps. 310.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: perros on January 18, 2010, 02:56:34 PM
I think the chances of a new member of Guts' party is slim, but if I had to say what type, I think a human who is nearer to Serpico in personality than, say, Isidro. And he may even be a ranger.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 02:59:13 PM
And he may even be a ranger.

I don't think assigning D&D classes is necessary.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Dar Klink on January 18, 2010, 03:20:55 PM
I'm hoping(perhaps illogically) for a female counterpart to Serpico :serpico:, I mean think about it... Guts has Casca, Isidro has Schierke, Roderick has Farnese, Puck even has Ivalera... Serpico is slowly losing his place as Farnese's male counterpart with Roderick in the picture. It is a bit cliched for every character to have a possible love interest counterpart, but still, poor Serpy deserves somebody. :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 03:41:09 PM
I'm hoping(perhaps illogically) for a female counterpart to Serpico :serpico:, I mean think about it... Guts has Casca, Isidro has Schierke, Roderick has Farnese, Puck even has Ivalera...

Azan has Serpico. Problem solved. No need to thank me. :badbone:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 18, 2010, 03:47:17 PM
Azan has Serpico. Problem solved. No need to thank me.

:ganishka:

I do like the idea of another girl joining the group, and it would be great if Serpico found someone to hook up with, too. I think another magic user would be a big help against Griffith and his army of apostles, but perhaps we'll see a someone with a mixture of magic and fighting abilities. Like a cross between Serpico and Schierke.

Another idea I had was a magic user with something like the kundalini in his or her possession.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 18, 2010, 04:06:18 PM
I've also considered that another party member may be in store for Guts and Co. in Elfhelm. Primarily because it's good timing. It's an entirely new, mostly unknown portion of the Berserk world. If there were ever a time to add a new party member, it'd be now. They would help orient readers to this new place and could represent the perspective of Elfhelm inhabitants -- in a different way than Puck. Similar to how Schierke was introduced in part to help orient the party, and readers, to the world of magic.

As for why it can't simply be Puck, well, it could. But I think he'll be regarded as something of an outsider once he gets back to his home. Just a hunch based on little more than his departure from it and his silence about the Elf King.

Another idea I had was a magic user ...
Yeah, this is what I've been pondering. We know there are wizards and other human magic users living with Elves there, and Schierke was trained apart from them by Flora. It's likely there are all sorts of rules and formalities Flora ignored in order to teach Schierke what she thought was proper. A new character could be someone who would draw out those distinctions about Schierke's training. Maybe an older guy who gets fussy when he learns she knows more than him  :ganishka:

Of course, Aaz pointed out to me that there would be quite a number of magic users in the party then -- Schierke, Farnese (in training) and this character. So, maybe not ...
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 18, 2010, 05:45:19 PM
As for why it can't simply be Puck, well, it could. But I think he'll be regarded as something of an outsider once he gets back to his home. Just a hunch based on little more than his departure from it and his silence about the Elf King.

Speaking of which, I wonder why he never thought to mention that Casca could be cured by Hanafubuku Oh. I suppose it's possible he didn't know the extent of the Elf King's powers, but I wonder if something happened between them that was so painful Puck wouldn't even consider going back to Elfhelm unless it was an emergency. I feel stronger about the former idea. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Johnstantine on January 18, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
within a matter of days we shall have it, my pets.

soon, my children.  soon. :idea:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 06:41:02 PM
perhaps we'll see a someone with a mixture of magic and fighting abilities. Like a cross between Serpico and Schierke.

What if Casca plays that role, though? :casca:

Speaking of which, does anyone foresee a scenario where Casca and Azan would receive water-based and earth-based equipment to complement Serpico and Isidro? I'm not partial to it myself.

Another idea I had was a magic user with something like the kundalini in his or her possession.

That's what I meant earlier by "an astral creature the group would keep as a pet". :troll: I guess Farnese could also be the one to take care of a little menagerie. Would allow her to have cool powers while not being on Schierke's level.

Speaking of which, I wonder why he never thought to mention that Casca could be cured by Hanafubuku Oh.

There are so many possibilities. Most of all, it's his enigmatic reaction when Ivalera and Isidro confronted him that's the most intriguing to me. Because whether he knew the full extent of the king's powers or not, he never mentioned him at all.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on January 18, 2010, 06:46:35 PM
I love the idea of a new party member as well. I know it definitely wouldn't happen, but I wouldn't mind a 3rd elf.

What would be interesting is if there were apostles living amongst the elves. An apostle in Guts' group would also be impossible. I don't think Guts and Casca could ever overcome their prejudices, all things considered.

Another magic user or perhaps some kind of supernatural creature seems like a great addition.

On another note, when Casca regains herself, I certainly hope she resumes the role of commander within Guts' group.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Proj2501 on January 18, 2010, 06:58:32 PM
Restored Casca = new party member. (Commander of the group. Uh, no. Why? Guts is lee-duh)

I think anyone tagging along at this point would be overkill. Magnifico is bad enough.  :magni: Hell maybe Miura will subtract form the group, only to bring them back later on.

A third elf would also ruin the dynamic between Puck and Ivarella. 2's company... Plus, I think there's a great untapped potential for Puck in the future.

Serpico doesn't need a love interest IMO. If anything it will keep him level headed. Girls are trouble. :slan: Serpico is a tactician, he knows it's bad enough worrying for Farnese. Anymore *gurls* can only mean less focus! He needs to stay sharp and sly.

Plus, guys, Azan still hasn't taken his mask off.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on January 18, 2010, 07:25:39 PM
While Guts is a good strategist and does have great leadership qualities, he was Casca's underling during the Band of the Falcon days. She was the sole reason that group survived as long as they did. While it's more probable that Guts will remain leader, it's not TOO crazy to think Casca COULD lead that group. Remember, she was still commanding the Falcons when the madness of the Eclipse was unleashed.

Also, one of the things Guts was in love with was her strength.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Saephon on January 18, 2010, 07:40:03 PM
What I'm looking forward to most with Casca's revival, other than the event itself, is Farnese being relieved of her duties in protecting her. To focus fully on her magic training  :daiba:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 18, 2010, 07:42:49 PM
A third elf would also ruin the dynamic between Puck and Ivarella. 2's company... Plus, I think there's a great untapped potential for Puck in the future.
There are other kinds of elf species though. A new one "tagging along" would be really interesting, like, say the mysterious dwarves.

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Serpico doesn't need a love interest IMO. If anything it will keep him level headed. Girls are trouble. :slan: Serpico is a tactician, he knows it's bad enough worrying for Farnese. Anymore *gurls* can only mean less focus! He needs to stay sharp and sly.
Yeah, but clearly *gurls* have been pretty integral to Serpico's motivations thus far. Farnese has essentially defined his entire development. I think a healthy relationship would be nice for him. Someone that can keep pace with him and share feelings with. To make his character simply forge ahead into battle seems pretty boring to me.

What I'm looking forward to most with Casca's revival, other than the event itself, is Farnese being relieved of her duties in protecting her. To focus fully on her magic training  :daiba:
That's a double-edged sword though, and potentially a dangerous prospect. Caring for Casca is Farnese's primary duty. Remember how she's reminded of how important she is by Roderick in vol 33? Anyway, once that's relinquished, it wouldn't be unforeseen if she spiraled back down into her self-loathing and self-pity. But now that she has magic to direct her purposes, I can't honestly imagine it will be a problem for her.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 18, 2010, 07:54:53 PM
There are other kinds of elf species though. A new one "tagging along" would be really interesting, like, say the mysterious dwarves.

It might be far-fetched, but maybe they'll meet the dwarf/dwarves who forged the Berserk's Armor?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 18, 2010, 07:57:57 PM
It might be far-fetched, but maybe they'll meet the dwarf/dwarves who forged the Berserk's Armor?
I dont think they'd have to meet the exact same dwarves in order for a commentary to be made on it by some inhabitants of Elfhelm.

Though that would make for a funny scene...

"That armor you're wearing ... It's...! RRRRRRUUUUUUUUUN! :magni: "
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Chaos on January 18, 2010, 08:14:33 PM
It might be far-fetched, but maybe they'll meet the dwarf/dwarves who forged the Berserk's Armor?

I agree with Walter on that one, though it would be pretty cool if it were the case.

Maybe if they do run into some dwarfs, they could build him a new armor with some type of regulator, to keep him sane?  :ganishka:
Not to mention, it's been, what, around 8 volumes now he's had the same armor? Pretty long streak for Guts, if you ask me. Though, to be fair, he had his last armor from Godot for 9, so... :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Skeleton on January 18, 2010, 09:41:03 PM
A magic user whose style would differ from Schierke's?

 :daiba:

I'm allowed to dream, aren't I?  :ganishka:

There are other kinds of elf species though. A new one "tagging along" would be really interesting, like, say the mysterious dwarves.


I'm very much interested in Berserk's dwarves.  I definitely hope they're touched upon once the group reaches Skellig.

Edited to add: In the episode The Astral World of volume 24, as Flora is explaining the various layers of the world, it shows an image of magical creatures including trolls and elves.  In the grass there's a Pikaf-looking creature and another creature that looks sort of like a lanky gnome wielding an axe.  I've often wondered if the gnome-looking creature was a dwarf.  I wouldn't mind it at all if Miura's dwarves looked like him, but he's probably just some random mythical creature.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2010, 10:21:46 PM
In the grass there's a Pikaf-looking creature and another creature that looks sort of like a lanky gnome wielding an axe.  I've often wondered if the gnome-looking creature was a dwarf.  I wouldn't mind it at all if Miura's dwarves looked like him, but he's probably just some random mythical creature.

Probably, eh? Just for info, those guys first showed up in volume 14, episode 92, when SK mentioned Godot's mine. Remember who's said to have inhabited said mine? :slan:

(http://aazealh.net/Divers/Dwarves.jpg)
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 19, 2010, 02:48:41 AM
I dont think they'd have to meet the exact same dwarves in order for a commentary to be made on it by some inhabitants of Elfhelm.

Though that would make for a funny scene...

"That armor you're wearing ... It's...! RRRRRRUUUUUUUUUN! :magni: "

Haha,  yeah it doesn't have to be the exact same dwarves. If they do run into some dwarves with knowledge of the Berserker Armor, it would be nice if they could provide a temporary solution to the problems caused by wearing the armor, or at least help Guts get a better handle on it himself.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on January 19, 2010, 02:53:50 AM
Haha,  yeah it doesn't have to be the exact same dwarves. If they do run into some dwarves with knowledge of the Berserker Armor, it would be nice if they could provide a temporary solution to the problems caused by wearing the armor, or at least help Guts get a better handle on it himself.

"Ahh that armor? Sure, we have learned to patch out its evilness, but we are running short on supplies. If your willing, we need to get some adamantite ore and some sun tear's but those pesky kobold's are hording them all! Please collect 5 ore and 5 sun tear's"

Accept quest ?   

:troll:

I got nothing other then I need more Berserk. Luckily (unluckily?) I have the lower tier manga's to kind of keep  me occupied while we wait.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Saephon on January 19, 2010, 03:10:40 AM
I got nothing other then I need more Berserk. Luckily (unluckily?) I have the lower tier manga's to kind of keep  me occupied while we wait.

I first got into manga and anime when I was ten years old. Twelve years later, and I can barely tolerate reading anything other than Berserk and Vagabond (though I'm definitely gonna check out Slam Dunk). I almost long for the ignorance and lower standards of yesteryear. Fortunately I have a huge backlog of video games to keep me company between episodes.  :guts:


On topic though, and this is purely speculative, I don't expect Guts to obtain any new armor or Super-Awesome Reforged Helm of Sweetness. From this point on, I expect his remaining growth in power to be mostly mental and physical control/utilization of the Berserk armor. Though a little related help in the form of Elf magic couldn't hurt.  :slan:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2010, 08:27:57 AM
Back in business! :guts:

Poor pirates, Guts looks sort of blasé here.

And of course, next YA (n°4, released on 2/12) will have Berserk as well.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on January 19, 2010, 08:35:03 AM
THATTABOY, GUTS!!! Man, I am so fucking excited for this new episode.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Skeleton on January 19, 2010, 09:00:16 AM
Probably, eh? Just for info, those guys first showed up in volume 14, episode 92, when SK mentioned Godot's mine. Remember who's said to have inhabited said mine? :slan:

Thank you, Aaz!  I always thought they were dwarves, and I could have sworn they were mentioned as inhabiting Godot's mine, but I sat hunched over volume 14 for nearly an hour yesterday and couldn't find any mention of them.  Like an idiot, I was completely skipping episode 92 and going straight to episode 93, thinking they were mentioned by Godot himself.  Even though I hate when you and Walter have to waste your time by looking up such things for people like me, I really appreciate you showing that to me.  I was starting to think I was imagining things.  :ganishka:  Anyway, I apologize for going off-topic.  Back to 310!
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2010, 12:03:03 PM
So, what do you guys think of the sea monster now? Looks like a monstrous octopus with a lamprey-like mouth to me.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Marik on January 19, 2010, 12:07:36 PM
So, what do you guys think of the sea monster now? Looks like a monstrous octopus with a lamprey-like mouth to me.

This monster seems like a sort of Kraken to me. (And Guts seems fine and well healed).  :chomp:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 19, 2010, 01:37:33 PM
So, what do you guys think of the sea monster now? Looks like a monstrous octopus with a lamprey-like mouth to me.

yeah I agree, that shot looks like lamprey mouth. I guess that must be the main part of the monster since Guts diced and sliced the other appendages.  Seems that Guts didn't need assistance, but I have to wait to make sure.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 19, 2010, 02:50:24 PM
So, what do you guys think of the sea monster now? Looks like a monstrous octopus with a lamprey-like mouth to me.

It looks awesome! It appears that Guts had very little trouble with it. A little arm canon here, a little DS there and voila! I wonder if this is the whole monster, though, as the last panel leaves me a bit suspicious. I wonder if something bigger is lurking within that ship...

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3421/70453608.jpg)

By the way, I love this close up of Guts' weary face. It's good to see the big guy back in action again. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 19, 2010, 03:06:16 PM
So, what do you guys think of the sea monster now? Looks like a monstrous octopus with a lamprey-like mouth to me.
Could this be the new party member?!  :troll:

It's about what we expected, or at least I did, based on our previous octopus/squid speculation. These previews don't give us what I'm holding out for -- a wide shot of the whole beast.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2010, 03:24:51 PM
I guess that must be the main part of the monster since Guts diced and sliced the other appendages.

If you look at the edge of the beast, you can see where they're attached to it.

By the way, I love this close up of Guts' weary face. It's good to see the big guy back in action again. :guts:

Yeah, it's what prompted my first comment. It's also remarkably similar to the look on my face when I read some posts. :iva:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Lithrael on January 19, 2010, 05:50:08 PM
Wooo!  Can hardly wait to read this one.  Guts v the Sarlacc-squid!  I hope it retreats before it's dispatched.  Surely a fantasy badass squid will be able to regenerate some limbs and a cannoned sliced up maw, given time. 
One thing's for sure, Magnifico's going to have to wash his pants again.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 19, 2010, 05:52:16 PM
I hope it retreats before it's dispatched.
I doubt Guts will let the thing escape. He's seen shooting his cannon at it this ep, so it's probably not going to survive much longer. And judging from the next shot of him slicing it in half, it may already be completely dispatched.

Obviously, we'll know more once about the future when we see the full ep, especially the final panel.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Griffith on January 19, 2010, 06:20:18 PM
So this is why so many people are on the board when I get back. :ganishka:

I was looking at that pic A1 as it caught my eye. The two page spread is weird, because at first it looks like he's almost superimposed over facing the other way, like, here's the action and Guts' reaction on the same page. But looking again, it's more likely he's literally spun around after firing and slicing so he's facing the other way. So it looks like he's doing another variation of the arm cannon/Dragon Slayer spin combo from the fight with Rosine's guardians (vol. 15) and later the battle with Mozgus' angels (vol. 20), except he's doing it on the same creature. That is some royal treatment it's getting. :guts:

Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 19, 2010, 06:34:43 PM
So it looks like he's doing another variation of the arm cannon/Dragon Slayer spin combo from the fight with Rosine's guardians (vol. 15) and later the battle with Mozgus' angels (vol. 20), except he's doing it on the same creature. That is some royal treatment it's getting. :guts:
Good catch! Yeah I should have looked closer at that panel, since now it's quite clear that's what he's doing. And not only just from A1, but in 9, judging by the way he's holding the DS, it's a sure thing.

Again, I'd say this could be the end of the fight, especially if the thing is now sliced in half. Though, we won't know for sure until the full ep.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 19, 2010, 07:06:31 PM
So this is why so many people are on the board when I get back. :ganishka:

I was looking at that pic A1 as it caught my eye. The two page spread is weird, because at first it looks like he's almost superimposed over facing the other way, like, here's the action and Guts' reaction on the same page. But looking again, it's more likely he's literally spun around after firing and slicing so he's facing the other way. So it looks like he's doing another variation of the arm cannon/Dragon Slayer spin combo from the fight with Rosine's guardians (vol. 15) and later the battle with Mozgus' angels (vol. 20), except he's doing it on the same creature. That is some royal treatment it's getting. :guts:


Don't forget about when he did it to finish off the possessed tree in volume 14!  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Griffith on January 19, 2010, 07:10:57 PM
Good call, I was thinking he'd done it more, but those were the examples that came to mind.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Lithrael on January 19, 2010, 08:19:59 PM
Noes!  cmon the thing has gotta be gormongous.  I refuse to believe it could be that big and still be small enough to be killed by a surface attack.  The tentacles are big enough to swallow dudes!  The central body's GOT to be long enough for the vital organs to be up in the head some distance from the mouth.  Pls pls pls pls....

On the other hand it'd rule if Miura kills it with actual-squid-weaknesses, like the way the esophagus runs through the brain, so if it swallows anything too big it kills itself.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on January 19, 2010, 08:23:28 PM
I know I'm not alone in saying I would love to see Guts actually take a bite out of this thing or even cook it afterwards.  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 19, 2010, 08:48:43 PM
I know I'm not alone in saying I would love to see Guts actually take a bite out of this thing or even cook it afterwards.  :guts:

I can certainly see Puck frying up some dead squid. :serpico:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Buy Berserk! on January 19, 2010, 10:48:24 PM
Do the right thing, support Miura!
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Griffith on January 19, 2010, 11:58:24 PM
Wow, if people thought Guts was too businesslike in his dispatching of trolls, they're not going to like this. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Proj2501 on January 20, 2010, 12:36:30 AM
Oh my.

Sashimi anyone?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on January 20, 2010, 12:50:45 AM
Well I did not see Guts collapse after his whirlwind of fucking doom. That's always a good sign that his health is getting better.

I am pretty sure that the pirate ship monster is pretty much fucking done. Now its time for the mermaids and sirens to wreck havoc on them!  :carcus:

Thanks!  :ubik:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: D-Scape on January 20, 2010, 12:56:52 AM
*Plays Ensiferum on the stereo*

Favorite part: The pirates introduces the "mother tentacle" in some sort of last-level-boss-fashion and four pages later it's reduced to chunks of meat! :ganishka:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Chaos on January 20, 2010, 12:57:34 AM
Well I did not see Guts collapse after his whirlwind of fucking doom. That's always a good sign that his health is getting better.

Couldn't agree more. Maybe it's just me, but I think Guts looks a little less emaciated from the last time we saw him. (Guts Now>Guts Volume 30>Guts Volume 28  :ubik:)

Can't decide if I hope for more fighting on the open sea or a speedier transit to Elfhelm
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 20, 2010, 01:07:44 AM
I like the stages the pirate captain goes through : 1) Trembling at the massacre Guts is making of its now master. 2) Cocky at the sight the real McCoy shows up to fight Guts. 3) Finally, the look on his face(page 20) as the monster gets sliced and perforated by the cannon. is like "Oh shit! I'm done"
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: feralotter on January 20, 2010, 01:54:28 AM
Fantastic.

Clearly Guts is not impressed.  Can't wait for the translation.

Maybe the Captain still has a final-form boss attack? I don't think I count them done yet.

Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on January 20, 2010, 02:54:54 AM
I cannot wait to get my copy of YA.

It was quite a rush seeing Guts massacre the hell out of that big thing. The cannon blast to the core was spectacular. I am in the middle as to whether or not I want this fight to last much longer. A big part of me thinks that Guts making quick work of the ship is *JUST* the thing to inspire their ship crew.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 20, 2010, 04:00:55 AM
I think a lot of the joy of this episode will come for me once a translation hits. It sure feels good to be back on the 2 week schedule.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Death May Die on January 20, 2010, 05:39:11 AM
LOL Awesome.  :ubik: I think the end was my favorite part. This is the 2nd time the pirates have faced a epic defeat at their own game. After their "monster" was defeated so easily, Guts and company blow them to pieces. Insult to injury. Overall thoughts from Guts "That was minorly inconvenient."
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: asic on January 20, 2010, 09:11:04 AM
Guts looks like he completly regained his health, he's going crazy on that poor kraken like creature. All it wanted was to say hello and now look what happened.

I might feel a little sorry for it now..  :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Dembol on January 20, 2010, 09:41:00 AM
This is the 2nd time the pirates have faced a epic defeat at their own game.
It kind of reminds me the fate of pirates in Asterix who prefer to chop their own ship than to face the mighty Gauls..

It's a fun EPISODE. Guts being his badass self and all. Plus it's been a while since common folk were like "Whoa, How can he wield a sword so huge with such ease?" (at least that what they seem to be saying).

But enough of showing off and badassery. Hopefully the next EPISODE will take us to Elfhelm. :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: asmer on January 20, 2010, 09:54:18 AM
Wow what a fight! :isidro:

Is it one drop of sweat on page 7?! :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Marik on January 20, 2010, 02:29:43 PM
Great fight!  :chomp:

And I really appreciate the Guts' rage drawn in his face, it remembers me some old battles.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 20, 2010, 04:47:55 PM
In episode 308, there was a motif established that there's always something bigger lurking out in this new world's ocean. Since this huge beast was handled with such ease and competence by Guts and Roderick's crew, I wonder if another, larger threat will appear in the first few pages of the next episode to hammer home the danger and uncertainty of the world.

Otherwise, the lasting message of these few episodes has been that the world is full of dangerous creatures, but it's what Guts has been trained for his whole life so, no biggie.  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 20, 2010, 09:11:35 PM
I cannot wait to get my copy of YA.

Me, too! Wow, what an epic fight. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: fuxberg on January 20, 2010, 09:54:52 PM
Thanks!
Awesome episode I finally got my Berserk fix.  :ubik:
Well I did not see Guts collapse after his whirlwind of fucking doom. That's always a good sign that his health is getting better.

Yeah, but I was "hoping" that he'd only get better at Elfhelm. I was getting fond to the idea of a tired and sick hero that still could kick some ass.  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 20, 2010, 10:14:51 PM
Thanks!
Awesome episode I finally got my Berserk fix.  :ubik:
Yeah, but I was "hoping" that he'd only get better at Elfhelm. I was getting fond to the idea of a tired and sick hero that still could kick some ass.  :guts:

Remember, he's still not 100%. Slan's wounds remain, it's only his minor injuries that have healed. Relatively easy fights like this one won't draw out the power of the armor and put him at risk again, but if something worse attacks them before they arrive at Skellig... :SK:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aphasia on January 21, 2010, 01:22:26 AM
WOW-EE! This was quite the treat.  Although the whole episode was more akin to slaughter as opposed to a real "fight".  :chomp: Chomp Chomp.
I really appreciate the panel that features guts gritting teeth and the swirl of cape.  The similarity these tentacles have to hands is intensely creepy but cool. : D
My soul can rest at ease tonight, and bask in these beautiful images. 

I'm guessing that's the end of the beast and the pirates, but wouldn't be surprised if there was
a greater challenge in store for the A-Team.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: fuxberg on January 21, 2010, 03:14:52 PM
Remember, he's still not 100%. Slan's wounds remain, it's only his minor injuries that have healed. Relatively easy fights like this one won't draw out the power of the armor and put him at risk again, but if something worse attacks them before they arrive at Skellig... :SK:

Perhaps this "easy" fight was just to leave Guts companions wondering about him, like an excuse to ask him about his past. And I think we're all eager for that little chat.  :ubik:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 21, 2010, 06:43:13 PM
Perhaps this "easy" fight was just to leave Guts companions wondering about him, like an excuse to ask him about his past. And I think we're all eager for that little chat.  :ubik:

Oh, I'm sure they're eager to learn why he's as good as he is. My guess, as others have already speculated, is that Guts telling the group about his past will happen either at the same time or very near to when Casca is being cured.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Dar Klink on January 22, 2010, 05:37:29 AM
You know, I like Roderick more and more every episode... at first I seriously thought he was gonna be some annoying asshole trying to steal Farnese away with cheesey romantic prissy bullshit, instead he's... a fucking badass who I really wouldn't mind getting a lot more screentime and character development. I just love that last shot of him ordering the cannons to be fired! :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Death May Die on January 22, 2010, 08:38:31 AM
Honestly, (I know there might be a lot of Roderick lovers out there) but is it just me, or does Roderick have potential causality written all over him? Just me? I figured.  :troll:

I know he's a small co-character, but he never seems to be up front in the story. I just wonder what the big picture is with him.

Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: flagawax on January 22, 2010, 06:27:11 PM
I notice, Guts scars's disappear ....  :magni:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Rhombaad on January 22, 2010, 06:35:30 PM
I notice, Guts scars's disappear ....  :magni:

The astral wave that washed over the world is what cured him of his minor injuries. We've known about this since episode 305. If you're interested in the discussions had on this topic, feel free to search the episode threads made since then.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Xem on January 22, 2010, 10:17:02 PM
Wow, I'd almost forgotten how strategic Guts can be in the heat of battle. Using the cannon to propel himself and the Dragon Slayer with more power?! All that while he's just wakin' up too. Gotta say I laughed a little when he nearly took that seaman's head off.

Loved it so much I had to change the ol' avatar and signature. Now I'm officially a full-fledged Berserk fan, no more of that Harlock stuff for the moment.  :serpico:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 23, 2010, 02:08:31 AM
Wow, I'd almost forgotten how strategic Guts can be in the heat of battle. Using the cannon to propel himself and the Dragon Slayer with more power?!
He's used this tactic at least twice before. It's one of his signature moves.

So it looks like he's doing another variation of the arm cannon/Dragon Slayer spin combo from the fight with Rosine's guardians (vol. 15) and later the battle with Mozgus' angels (vol. 20), except he's doing it on the same creature.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Death May Die on January 23, 2010, 03:40:26 AM
He's used this tactic at least twice before. It's one of his signature moves.


FINISH HIM!!! HEHEHE
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Xem on January 23, 2010, 07:26:24 AM
Haha yeah, as if Guts powering through with the Dragon Slayer wasn't enough, he uses a fuckin' cannon to boost his ability!

He's used this tactic at least twice before. It's one of his signature moves.

Yeah I felt as though it seemed familiar when I saw it. My thought was, "I've seen this before somewhere." It's just been so long. In my current re-reading I'm about 1/4 of the way through volume 20. It usually takes me about 3-4 hours (roughly 2 days with my schedule) to read through a volume now, as I pay extra extra extra attention to every detail now. The fight with Rosine, though seen many times, still seems like a distant memory in some regards to specifics.

Also, since I tend to get so caught up in the moment, Isidro and the seamen's reaction to this maneuver had me feeling like I'd seen it for the first time.

Only makes it even more ridiculously well-executed and overall amazing.

GO GUTS!



Feb. 12 can't come any faster, can it?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jerk on January 23, 2010, 10:42:24 AM
I think the implications of this episode is that guts has become either physically or spiritually (in reference to his effect on other worldly things) stronger.  The guy wasn't focused and he was cutting through those tentacles without much effort.  Maybe when he was healed by that wave of light his muscles, having endured many terrible injuries, have become stronger or when the worlds merge it gave him a spiritual boost.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Griffith on January 23, 2010, 11:28:20 AM
Interesting, though at this point I think Guts is just in decent health. We've seen him go through this cycle a few times with the armor now, where one moment he's seemingly invincible, and the next he's laid up for weeks, paying the price.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Riastrathe on January 23, 2010, 08:04:09 PM
I think the implications of this episode is that guts has become either physically or spiritually (in reference to his effect on other worldly things) stronger.  The guy wasn't focused and he was cutting through those tentacles without much effort.  Maybe when he was healed by that wave of light his muscles, having endured many terrible injuries, have become stronger or when the worlds merge it gave him a spiritual boost.
Hm I'm not so sure yet unless I'm missing something. This creature Guts is fighting really seems more like a big bag of flesh. The creature is not really fighting, just kinda waving around waiting to be cut.

Interesting, though at this point I think Guts is just in decent health. We've seen him go through this cycle a few times with the armor now, where one moment he's seemingly invincible, and the next he's laid up for weeks, paying the price.
I'd agree but I hope by now and with the wave Guts is feeling closer than ever to how he felt before he first donned the armor. I don't follow the second sentence though. Guts gets laid up when he taps into the armor and gets banged around. I don't see a repeat of past cycles unless the next episode things get real rough, but this incident and with it involving the same Pirate Leader makes it seem more light hearted. If Guts feels bad after this episode than he's got a lot of healing left to do, but I can't wait for the fighting to be over so we can see how everything stands.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 23, 2010, 08:11:25 PM
I'd agree but I hope by now and with the wave Guts is feeling closer than ever to how he felt before he first donned the armor.

Now that I'm really thinking about it, it's funny to me that Guts hasn't been his old self since before the troll cave and before the astral wounds inflicted by Slan. I think we're all still wondering if the wave had any effect on those wounds closing up for good or not, in addition to the healing of all his burn scars.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 23, 2010, 08:51:11 PM
I think the implications of this episode is that guts has become either physically or spiritually (in reference to his effect on other worldly things) stronger.  The guy wasn't focused and he was cutting through those tentacles without much effort.  Maybe when he was healed by that wave of light his muscles, having endured many terrible injuries, have become stronger or when the worlds merge it gave him a spiritual boost.

I really don't think so. That enemy was just a random monstrous animal, not something that requires technique and finesse to beat. He went through it like he went through the trolls in volume 25. Like Griff said it just means he's in decent health.

I think we're all still wondering if the wave had any effect on those wounds closing up for good or not, in addition to the healing of all his burn scars.

No one should be wondering about that. The astral wave greatly accelerated the healing of his minor scars (you'll notice they still haven't completely healed yet), but his two astral wounds were logically unaffected (it's logical because they're astral wounds, and the astral wave's healing properties were only the result of the physical body synchronizing itself with the astral body).

I don't know why you guys bother posting explanations when it's clearly shown that Guts' astral wounds are still there in episode 305...

(http://aazealh.net/Divers/Episode305_Guts-wound.jpg)
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 23, 2010, 11:27:41 PM

No one should be wondering about that. The astral wave greatly accelerated the healing of his minor scars (you'll notice they still haven't completely healed yet), but his two astral wounds were logically unaffected (it's logical because they're astral wounds, and the astral wave's healing properties were only the result of the physical body synchronizing itself with the astral body).


I see what you're saying. It looks a little strange to me that in that picture, his astral wounds appear to be made of the same material that is washing over the rest of his body. But they are near perfect shape, although on the far left it looks to me as if they are slightly elevated off of his chest.

Anyways I am not saying that I disagree with you. Thanks for sharing that image.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: billdog on January 24, 2010, 05:24:44 AM
damn i didn't know miura was such a workaholic
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Proj2501 on January 24, 2010, 06:01:49 AM
damn i didn't know miura was such a workaholic
You're new here.  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 24, 2010, 08:31:01 AM
It looks a little strange to me that in that picture, his astral wounds appear to be made of the same material that is washing over the rest of his body.

You can only see one of the wounds in this picture. And it's astral in nature, just like what is washing over Guts in the picture, so I don't see what's strange about it.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Uriel on January 24, 2010, 08:11:44 PM
Damn, Guts. Just.... damn.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Xem on January 24, 2010, 10:07:32 PM
A random thought just occurred to me. A few episodes ago we had a pretty nice internal monologue with Guts thinking about his missing arm, then in this episode he uses it (one again) in an extremely helpful and innovative way. It really has become "part of him" in some regards, hasn't it? I wonder if that crossed Guts' mind during this battle as well.

Anyway, I love how Miura somewhat subtly intertwined that together. So fuckin' cool.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 25, 2010, 12:45:26 AM
A random thought just occurred to me. A few episodes ago we had a pretty nice internal monologue with Guts thinking about his missing arm, then in this episode he uses it (one again) in an extremely helpful and innovative way. It really has become "part of him" in some regards, hasn't it? I wonder if that crossed Guts' mind during this battle as well.
Why now, moreso than when he previously used this manuever? Anyway, if it went through his head, it wasn't highlighted in the episode so it's kind of irrelevant.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Xem on January 27, 2010, 11:33:35 AM
Why now

Why not? :slan:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 27, 2010, 11:52:05 AM
A few episodes ago

23 episodes ago.

Why not? :slan:

Because he precisely reflected on the fact it was just a hunk of metal that he sticks on to crush his enemies. Using it as a cannon like he's done many times before definitely does not negate the realization that it can't replace his real forearm.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Saephon on January 27, 2010, 12:08:51 PM
I don't want to stray too off-topic here, but you guys bring up a question that I'm not sure deserves its own thread: Do you think Guts would want his real arm back if he had the chance, given the advantages of his mechanical one? There have been many battles where a cannon-blast, punch to the face, or parry saved his life. It's obvious the tools he has at his disposal are second-nature to him when you see how quickly he thinks in a battle. I'd like to think that his senses of humanity would desire to have his complete old body again, but he'd be giving up some great assets by losing that fake arm.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 27, 2010, 12:18:39 PM
Do you think Guts would want his real arm back if he had the chance, given the advantages of his mechanical one?

Yes, I think so. If anything, episode 287 makes it abundantly clear in my opinion.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: asic on January 27, 2010, 12:23:10 PM
Do you think Guts would want his real arm back if he had the chance, given the advantages of his mechanical one?

I speculate Guts would be even more dangerous with both arms intact, his swordmanship would be a lot faster and refined than what he can do with a mechanical arm. Theres no way of telling how the battles would have been like had he still his flesh arm. Anyways look at this http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=4404.0

Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 27, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
Why not? :slan:

 :serpico:
Why now describe it as innovative :???:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Death May Die on January 28, 2010, 12:42:25 AM
I speculate Guts would be even more dangerous with both arms intact, his swordmanship would be a lot faster and refined than what he can do with a mechanical arm. Theres no way of telling how the battles would have been like had he still his flesh arm. Anyways look at this http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=4404.0



 That steel arm isn't only a trade mark of Guts, I think its saved his life more than you realize. Yes, it does have a cannon, and that has helped Guts a lot. But if I recall correctly, the arm has a mechanization or something that holds the dragon slayer discretely. I don't know if its magnetic or something but I have a feeling one big reason he doesn't drop that sword so often after being hit, or tossed by an opponent, probably has a lot to do with that fake arm. But maybe I am mistaking, maybe when Guts usually gets flung, he's clinching the dragon slayer with his good arm.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 28, 2010, 01:11:06 AM
if I recall correctly, the arm has a mechanization or something that holds the dragon slayer discretely. I don't know if its magnetic or something but I have a feeling one big reason he doesn't drop that sword so often after being hit, or tossed by an opponent, probably has a lot to do with that fake arm. But maybe I am mistaking, maybe when Guts usually gets flung, he's clinching the dragon slayer with his good arm.

If you check this pic in Vol. 14 Rickert tells Guts it has a magnet to grip the sword, nothing else is said about that the hand was able to hold unto the sword. But there is a pic where the sword is being held when Guts is being tossed, by one of the pair of insects that Guts has to face after he kills the small fries. It's in Vol. 15 right after the praying mantis attacks him and the beetle charges. The next shot you see is guts flying in the air. It's just a couple of pages later, after Jill's parents are shown talking to Farnese. Sorry I didn't have time for the other pic, I"m taking off.

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4230/magnetb.jpg)

Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 28, 2010, 08:32:43 AM
I have a feeling one big reason he doesn't drop that sword so often after being hit, or tossed by an opponent, probably has a lot to do with that fake arm. But maybe I am mistaking, maybe when Guts usually gets flung, he's clinching the dragon slayer with his good arm.

Yeah actually you are mistaken and most of the time he holds the DS with his good arm.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jerk on January 30, 2010, 08:31:18 AM
I don't believe any magnet in those days is powerful enough to hold something as heavy as the dragon slayer, i would imagine it's more for support.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 30, 2010, 09:12:18 AM
I don't believe any magnet in those days is powerful enough to hold something as heavy as the dragon slayer, i would imagine it's more for support.

It's just so the hand can clasp around the handle.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jerk on January 30, 2010, 09:24:13 AM
If think a real arm helping him swing that sword around would make up for the loss of the prosthetic arm and its cannon.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: mydummyfrom2001 on January 30, 2010, 10:27:57 AM
Kentarou Miura reported that his father had died in last year -- from author's comment in the year's first issue of Young Animal.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on January 30, 2010, 02:02:39 PM
Kentarou Miura reported that his father had died in last year -- from author's comment in the year's first issue of Young Animal.

Damn, that's very sad. :sad: I think he was close to his father, too. Our thoughts are with him.

Thanks for reporting the news anyway (although, to be exact, he announced it in the current issue, #3).
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Walter on January 30, 2010, 02:35:25 PM
Kentarou Miura reported that his father had died in last year -- from author's comment in the year's first issue of Young Animal.
Thanks for the info. That's really too bad... Guy had a rough year. :sad:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aphasia on January 31, 2010, 05:19:10 AM
That's really sad...I can't imagine losing my father.  Life goes on for everyone though, I suppose.  
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: geo jee on February 01, 2010, 09:09:49 PM
Well I'm new here... But hi everyone. :guts: I'm just so proud to be part of the nexus.
And if the previous post is true... That's just so sad. :judo:

I may be from Egypt but Berserk is not strange to me. :zodd:
I just hope things get clear in the next episode 311 that is coming soon in 12/2. :serpico:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Turkitage on February 03, 2010, 05:19:30 AM
Man, I get too damn excited when I'm about to read a new eps. Then even more excited when I finish it! awesome fight!!  well... slaughter.

What a great day!
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jerk on February 08, 2010, 12:41:46 AM
When's the next issue sceduled to be released?
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Gobolatula on February 08, 2010, 12:46:52 AM
February 12, son. Make sure ya get your copy of Young Animal!
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on February 08, 2010, 11:04:44 AM
February 12, son. Make sure ya get your copy of Young Animal!

And the next one will be on February 26, and it'll have Berserk too.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Griffith on February 08, 2010, 11:28:55 AM
This is going to be a good month. :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Jaccuri on February 10, 2010, 10:41:50 PM
February 12, son. Make sure ya get your copy of Young Animal!

Sweet, it's on my birthday
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: everymonday on March 06, 2010, 07:59:36 AM
Sorry that I write it here but I couldn't find the special topic -

Have you guys noticed a mistake on page 20?

The Dragonslayer is drawn without its edge and also shadows of lower jaw's teeth don't match.

I guess Miura and his team were in a great hurry so they forgot to make it properly.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Aazealh on March 06, 2010, 09:46:26 AM
Have you guys noticed a mistake on page 20?

The Dragonslayer is drawn without its edge

Could be a mistake, but I'm not sure it isn't intentional considering the perspective.

and also shadows of lower jaw's teeth don't match.

I don't see a problem there.
Title: Re: Episode 310
Post by: Oburi on March 06, 2010, 02:12:19 PM
Sorry that I write it here but I couldn't find the special topic -

Have you guys noticed a mistake on page 20?

I don't think so. I think it's just the angle. Look at the panel above it, it's the same.