SkullKnight.net

Berserk => Berserk Anime => Topic started by: Smeghead on September 27, 2010, 02:05:03 PM

Title: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Smeghead on September 27, 2010, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-09-27/new-berserk-anime-project-launching
The wraparound jacket band on the 35th volume of Kentarou Miura's Berserk fantasy manga is announcing this month that a new anime project is launching. More information will be provided in Hakusensha's Young Animal magazine and the affiliated Young Animal Web site.

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4295/71yf.jpg)

This is fantastic news!! :guts:



Admin edit:

CM1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihPs4BoDvo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihPs4BoDvo)
CM2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4m9sDeor3o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4m9sDeor3o)
CM3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWibBuWvZbA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWibBuWvZbA)
CM4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM)
CM5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7fn_SMH284 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7fn_SMH284)


(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-03.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-04.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-05.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-06.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-07.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-08.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-09.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-10.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-11.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-12.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-13.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-14.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-15.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-16.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-17.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-18.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-19.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-20.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-21.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-22.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-23.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-25.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/berserkanime-24.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 27, 2010, 02:12:04 PM
I'll believe it when I see it.

If this is not a joke, I'll be pretty excited, but it could have two major disappointments.

Miura takes time from his manga to help create a decent animation version of Berserk.

Or, Miura doesn't take time away from his manga and the anime then falls into the hands of those who might not dedicate their lives to the story.

For now I'll remain optimistically skeptical.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on September 27, 2010, 02:25:59 PM
I, selfishly, don't want another Berserk anime series to be made. Unless it's done like Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood where the story is true to the manga, and the animation is NOT bad or inconsistent between episodes. The advantage Brotherhood had was that the manga ended at around the same time, so it was perfectly timed. Like Claymore, if they decide on their own ending or interpretation of an ending to cap it to 25 or 50 episodes, it'll suckitysucksuck.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2010, 02:26:49 PM
Thanks for posting the info. Not much to be said for now, except that I hope it'll be well done and worthy of the manga (unlike the first series). Wait & see.

I'll believe it when I see it.

If this is not a joke, I'll be pretty excited, but it could have two major disappointments.

It's on the cover of volume 35. That's about as official as it gets.

Miura takes time from his manga to help create a decent animation version of Berserk.

Maybe he has been already.

I, selfishly, don't want another Berserk anime series to be made.

It's a bit late for that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on September 27, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
Nice news, I wonder wich chapters it will cover.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 27, 2010, 02:30:39 PM
Hmmm...not sure what to think about this. I had assumed there wouldn't be a new anime or OVA until after the series had ended. Hopefully, they do a better job this time around.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 27, 2010, 02:46:22 PM
It's on the cover of volume 35. That's about as official as it gets.

Yes, I agree, it is very official,  I'm just afraid to get too excited over it!  :troll:

Maybe he has been already.

Hmmm, that might mean we'll be seeing the animation sooner than later.

I wouldn't mind seeing some more Black Swordsman. Maybe some stories from Guts' time with just Puck (or even alone). Miura has already shown us that he is not afraid to expand on certain parts of the story with the DC game. An original storyline would keep us from comparing it to the manga, and being disappointed if it doesn't line up perfectly.  There's almost 2 years of Guts' badassery we haven't seen yet!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2010, 02:51:21 PM
Miura has already shown us that he is not afraid to expand on certain parts of the story with the DC game. An original storyline would keep us from comparing it to the manga, and being disappointed if it doesn't line up perfectly.

Hmm, I don't know about that. It'd be a lot of work and might not work out so well in the end. The DC game was a side-story that was supposed to fit in with the manga but that ultimately didn't, and keep in mind that at the time it was set ahead of the manga's storyline. I'm not sure Miura would be willing to revisit established parts of the story for the anime, and if it happened it would create confusion regarding what is canon or not.

Anyway, a series of four TV commercials have also been announced (http://natalie.mu/comic/news/38251) with Gackt as the salesman (well, he's doing the narration). The "Berserk Official Corner" is getting a revamp as well (should happen in about 9 hours), and it looks like they've opened an official Twitter account for the series. The TV commercials will be available on the website along with a special one made only for the web.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: dwarfkicker on September 27, 2010, 03:11:43 PM
It's about time!

Unfortunately, I've come to value the manga so much more than any other medium that Berserk has appeared in.  While it's nice to see it finally getting the anime treatment again, I'm taking a wait and see stance here.  I hope it turns out really good, and above all else, faithful to the manga.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
I'm glad to see discussion around the much-fabled NEW BERSERK ANIMATION finally has some kind of grounding, instead of the endless rumors we've heard about such a project over the past 10 years.

All that being said, it's honestly hard to get excited about this after the inconsistencies laden in the 1997 anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 27, 2010, 03:26:16 PM
 :guts: :guts: :guts: :guts: :guts: :guts: :guts: :guts:

YoooOOOOOSH!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on September 27, 2010, 03:31:39 PM
I'm speechless. It is totally awesome!!!!  :ubik: :schnoz:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 27, 2010, 03:36:43 PM
I'm pretty excited! I just hope they get Susumu Hirasawa for the soundtrack. I mean, they have to.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Grail on September 27, 2010, 03:59:04 PM
I'm pretty excited! I just hope they get Susumu Hirasawa for the soundtrack. I mean, they have to.
Ditto on both counts! :guts: I'm gonna try not to get my hopes up too high, but at the very least I think we can expect Hirasawa to be involved in the soundtrack.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 27, 2010, 04:24:02 PM
...and it looks like they've opened an official Twitter account for the series. The TV commercials will be available on the website along with a special one made only for the web.

This is damn good reason for me to start using Twitter!  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2010, 04:27:42 PM
This is damn good reason for me to start using Twitter!  :ganishka:
And to learn Japanese.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 27, 2010, 04:34:25 PM
And to learn Japanese.

I'm not super familiar with Twitter but, I'd assume they would post character art/pics etc, etc?

Or does Twitter only do text based Tweets and stuff?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on September 27, 2010, 04:37:12 PM
Oh god... I didn't believe the title, I thought it was just an old thread revived by some inconsiderate member... but it's not! I don't care what you guys say, I'm optimistically ready to be crushed by what they give us! :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2010, 04:38:45 PM
I'm not super familiar with Twitter but, I'd assume they would post character art/pics etc, etc?

Or does Twitter only do text based Tweets and stuff?
It's all text  updates. At the most, you'll get a link to a pic hosted elsewhere, but if it's like any other production company twitter account, most updates will be along the lines of: "Production going smoothly! We had a good day today!"

It's an avenue of information we wouldn't have otherwise, but I'm just trying to say don't get your hopes up for a big scoop every day or anything
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 27, 2010, 04:40:01 PM
It's all text  updates. At the most, you'll get a link to a pic hosted elsewhere, but if it's like any other production company twitter account, most updates will be along the lines of: "Production going smoothly! We had a good day today!"

Hey, thanks.

While I wasn't expecting monster stories every other day, I was expecting a bit more than "Things are going well!"

If thats the case I'll just stick to SK.net for news on the animation  :SK:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 27, 2010, 04:41:43 PM
This is very exciting news! However, I'm afraid the show might not air in my kingdom...You know, things have been pretty rough since king Griffith took the throne.  He gets himself all hot and flustered just thinking about Guts as the main character.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on September 27, 2010, 04:48:02 PM
All that being said, it's honestly hard to get excited about this after the inconsistencies laden in the 1997 anime.

Feel the same way. I wish I was excited but now I gotta try not to think about this everyday for the next few years or it'll just be annoying.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2010, 04:53:03 PM
While I wasn't expecting monster stories every other day, I was expecting a bit more than "Things are going well!"

If thats the case I'll just stick to SK.net for news on the animation  :SK:
We'll, I'm hoping they'll use the Twitter account for more than just the anime. Like for example other information about the series, like episode releases, and *gasp* updates from Miura  :daiba:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Johnstantine on September 27, 2010, 05:02:09 PM
Fun stuff.  Hopefully they retcon the shit out of the 1997 anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on September 27, 2010, 05:03:51 PM
Holy fat fuck this is great news. I am so pumped it's ridiculous. Honestly, I never thought this day would come. I want to see animated berserker armor. Animated Puck. Animated Schierke. Gaaaah I am excited!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 27, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
I really hope Hirasawa does work for the soundtrack, like some of you mentioned.  His music made parts of the first series really stand out.  The Berserk story is so engrained with that music for me I think I'd be disappointed if I heard anything else.
I feel like if I compare it to the Manga at all it will always fail to live up to expectations.  I'm going to try and give it a fair chance and see it for what it is.  

Hopefully this new work will be super popular and inspire even more people to go pick up the Manga! : )
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
We'll, I'm hoping they'll use the Twitter account for more than just the anime. Like for example other information about the series, like episode releases, and *gasp* updates from Miura  :daiba:

I think the Twitter account might be for Berserk in general, though the "project" part in the name seems to refer to the new anime. Anyway, if it's anything like the other Twitter accounts they've set up for their series it won't be a must-read. As for updates from Miura you can stop dreaming right now since I'm quite sure it'll just be run by YA's editorial staff.

Fun stuff.  Hopefully they retcon the shit out of the 1997 anime.

Just pretending it doesn't exist should suffice. :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 27, 2010, 05:29:21 PM
Wow, I wouldn't exactly call it the the Holy Grail, but "Season 2," or just a second anime, is probably the longest standing Berserk message board legend to finally come to fruition. :guts:

Oh god... I didn't believe the title, I thought it was just an old thread revived by some inconsiderate member...

Me too, helped by the fact it was already two pages when I saw it. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Konketsuji on September 27, 2010, 06:20:16 PM
I can't believe it. :isidro: After more than ten years... I hope for the best of course and I agree with all of you about Susumu Hirasawa. But is it really possible to air uncensored version on tv, all these brutal and sex scenes? Was there an anime series with this level of violence before?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2010, 06:33:07 PM
But is it really possible to air uncensored version on tv

Probably not, and that's why it's likely going to be OVAs.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on September 27, 2010, 06:37:48 PM
Wow! Just in time to deliver before the end of the world! Hehehehehe

I'm so stoked! I wonder if its even a continuation though, or a revamp. I would rather see a continuation, but a revamp would interest me just as much. I would love to see the Conviction Arc and beyond. The announcement of the new series OVA is phenomenal!  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Konketsuji on September 27, 2010, 07:33:10 PM
Probably not, and that's why it's likely going to be OVAs.
That would be awesome! I love what they've done with the latest Hellsing adaptation.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 27, 2010, 07:53:24 PM
Probably not, and that's why it's likely going to be OVAs.

I hope so. That's the only way the animation will do justice to Miura's artwork and storytelling. I wonder how many of the original seiyu will reprise their roles. I hope Toshiyuki Morikawa plays Griffith again. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: yesmilord on September 27, 2010, 07:55:10 PM
Expect a lot more traffic around this site haha.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2010, 08:02:33 PM
I wonder if its even a continuation though, or a revamp. I would rather see a continuation, but a revamp would interest me just as much.

You would rather see a continuation? With all that they omitted? It wouldn't make much sense.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 27, 2010, 08:40:11 PM
You would rather see a continuation? With all that they omitted? It wouldn't make much sense.

I'm in agreement with Aaz, I would rather see an OVA from the very beginning of the manga up until current, much like the Hellsing OVA. Whether or not they would take this stance is questionable, due to budget restrictions, but I reckon it would have potential to push Berserk to a new level of popularity if they went through with it.

The issue I have is, if it doesn't sell too well then production could be ceased or slow down considerably or budget cuts could be made, Hellsing has a much bigger fan base from my understanding, hence the OVA series. I doubt this would be the case but it would be a shame for the series to make it as far as the previous anime only to fall short of the mark again.

I have a lot of hope for a new series, because there has been a lot of improvements in manga-anime transitions in the last 13 odd years since the last series. Not to say I don't have an ounce of pessimism, I really do. In fact I am waiting for a second opinion on the translation of this front cover, just in case someone has actually mis-translated or the cover has been misunderstood and is mentioning that their maybe an interview with Miura inside talking about the omission of an anime series. If this is all true though, I really look forward to seeing how it all comes together, at the very least we get a new soundtrack by Hirasawa.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: perros on September 27, 2010, 09:00:58 PM
Great news. I wonder if any of the people who was involved with the original Berserk anime will be involved with this...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2010, 09:02:50 PM
Hellsing has a much bigger fan base from my understanding

Is there any basis to this assumption of yours? I'm genuinely curious.

In any case, the only relevant fact in your comparison is that Hellsing's just 10 volumes long whereas Berserk has 35 volumes and is still ongoing. And Hellsing's volumes are shorter too. That's not quite the same investment.

In fact I am waiting for a second opinion on the translation of this front cover, just in case someone has actually mis-translated or the cover has been misunderstood

Don't you think I'd have mentioned it first thing and then closed the thread if it had been the case? :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BerserkMJM on September 27, 2010, 09:44:01 PM
I just want to see some of my favorite moments animated, even if the story is an adaptation. I can isolate moments and pretend that the rest of it doesn't exist, if that's what it comes down to.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 27, 2010, 10:28:56 PM
Aside from the perfect world scenario of faithfully adapting the whole series from start to present, what I'd do is bring back the same voice cast and Hirasawa, and do something faithful that, while not contradicting or retconning it, wouldn't owe anything to the previous anime. Cover the Conviction arc starting from Lost Children until the Incarnation Ceremony (considering likely length limitations), which would work as a continuation if you've seen the previous anime, but would also be a stand alone adaptation of volumes 14-21, and would organically introduce Puck, Silat, and Skull Knight without awkwardly trying to bridge the gap between the old series and this new endeavor, whatever it maybe be. Basically, other than spiritual continuity like the music and cast, ignore the old anime, but don't cover the same ground either. That's my reasonable hope, anyway.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Xem on September 27, 2010, 10:51:58 PM
Aside from the perfect world scenario of faithfully adapting the whole series from start to present, what I'd do is bring back the same voice cast and Hirasawa, and do something faithful that, while not contradicting or retconning it, wouldn't owe anything to the previous anime. Cover the Conviction arc starting from Lost Children until the Incarnation Ceremony (considering likely length limitations), which would work as a continuation if you've seen the previous anime, but would also be a stand alone adaptation of volumes 14-21, and would organically introduce Puck, Silat, and Skull Knight without awkwardly trying to bridge the gap between the old series and this new endeavor, whatever it maybe be. Basically, other than spiritual continuity like the music and cast, ignore the old anime, but don't cover the same ground either. That's my reasonable hope, anyway.

This is what I've been saying for a while now. Start off with Guts embarking on his own and end with him saving Casca at Albion. It would be appropriate too, the first anime ends with Griffith becoming Femto and the new one could end with him being incarnated. Not saying the two need to be mutually exclusive, but I think it'd work from a market standpoint. Let's not forget the enormous amount of people who refuse to read manga and only follow anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2010, 11:38:29 PM
The new website has launched! It's still being uploaded as I post this, but it's looking good so far. It's nothing too amazing though. They removed the features they weren't updating anymore (episode previews, the little flash games) and streamlined the rest. I think the background illustrations could be in a higher resolution... And that thumbnail of volume 35's cover is just gross. Definitely not resized properly.

Anyway, I wonder what the "Coming Soon" section is about. Future information on the anime?

http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/ (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/)

Ah and I didn't post it earlier, but here's the Twitter account for those interested: http://twitter.com/berserk_project (http://twitter.com/berserk_project)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 12:05:35 AM
Does the 'commercial film' section mean we will be getting trailers of the new anime on the dates shown? Is it really going to be that soon?  :isidro:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 28, 2010, 12:07:26 AM
what a crazy day! :isidro: my brain almost imploded from all this fantastic news :guts:

my biggest hope is Susumu Hirasawa, definitely! (and that this isnt some 8 month-long april fools joke  :judo:)

thanks for the links to the twitter account and YA website :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 28, 2010, 12:12:11 AM
Does the 'commercial film' section mean we will be getting trailers of the new anime on the dates shown? Is it really going to be that soon?  :isidro:

I'd say those are probably the commercials for the 35th volume, narrated by Gackt:

Quote from: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-09-27/new-berserk-anime-project-launching
A television commercial narrated by singer, actor, and well-known Berserk fan Gackt  will promote the release of the 35th manga volume. Four versions of the commercial will run from Wednesday, September 29 to October 3.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 12:14:34 AM
I'd say those are probably the commercials for the 35th volume, narrated by Gackt:


Ah right, that's me jumping the gun a little then, thanks for that. I guess I'm finding it difficult to contain the excitement and just want to see more info as soon as possible.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Pez on September 28, 2010, 12:25:29 AM
I have been hoping for this every since the baseless rumors started. I am optimistic. I am quite sure in my own mind that it will be an improvement upon the original series, and that it will not be a disappointment. I am very curious what it will cover, and how it will deal with the original anime. If anything, they can simply introduce Puck in the beginning of the new series and take tiny liberties with the story at first to tie everything together...who knows. I just hope that they really learn from what they did and follow the manga a bit more closely...

Anyways, I am very excited and hope that their budget allows for a worthy anime. I would not mind too much if Miura were to take a longer break in order to ensure that the anime will not fail to impress.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 28, 2010, 01:09:00 AM
I'll believe this when it turns out not to be a prank.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 28, 2010, 01:12:18 AM
I'll believe this when it turns out it's not a prank.  :puck:

That would be quite the elaborate prank, building a website and all.

Ah right, that's me jumping the gun a little then, thanks for that. I guess I'm finding it difficult to contain the excitement and just want to see more info as soon as possible.

I was curious about this, too! I was hoping we'd get to see some snippets of animation.  hopefully the art direction is nice and dark.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on September 28, 2010, 01:14:41 AM
Wow, color me excited! What I personally hope for is an OVA of the Lost children chapter because there is just enough material for them not to have to cut too much out and it's sort of out of the way of they main storyline so it won't disrupt the continuity. Plus Rosine of course! I think that would be awesome.

But I'll be happy to see anything in Berserk animated.  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 28, 2010, 01:15:29 AM
That would be quite the elaborate prank, building a website and all.

I call it an Aazealh Surprise!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 01:17:23 AM
I'll believe this when it turns out not to be a prank.

Hehe, this has already sparked some heated debate and caused a misunderstanding between me and Aaz. I can assure you this is not an elaborate hoax. I can understand why people would have a hard time believing it after many years of rumours and the dismissal of those pictures from last year.

Speaking of which, do we reckon those pictures we saw really were leaks of the new animated series? I keep coming back to them as they seemed really highly detailed for a casual prank.

Also, didn't Miura have a comment at the end of an episode recently stating how he thought that the anime market had changed and wouldn't accept something like Berserk anymore. Or at least something along those lines?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 28, 2010, 01:20:01 AM
Hehe, this has already sparked some heated debate and caused a misunderstanding between me and Aaz. I can assure you this is not an elaborate hoax. I can understand why people would have a hard time believing it after many years of rumours and the dismissal of those pictures from last year.

Speaking of which, do we reckon those pictures we saw really were leaks of the new animated series? I keep coming back to them as they seemed really highly detailed for a casual prank.

I was wondering the same thing. Most likely that was a prank though. I just hope this turns out to be really good, that's all I care about.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 01:24:24 AM
If the new series looks at the very least, as good as those pictures, then I will be happy knowing that the animation would be far greater than the 1997 non-animated fight sequences.

Add in Hirasawa, a faithful plotline, good voice acting and you have anime gold. I very nearly soiled myself at the thought of seeing the first Berserker battle scene fully animated.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 28, 2010, 01:48:30 AM
The new website has launched! It's still being uploaded as I post this, but it's looking good so far. It's nothing too amazing though. They removed the features they weren't updating anymore (episode previews, the little flash games) and streamlined the rest.
It's a better design, though with admittedly a lot less information. And the massive use of Flash is a bit of a turnoff. I do like the rotating background images though.

Quote
I think the background illustrations could be in a higher resolution... And that thumbnail of volume 35's cover is just gross. Definitely not resized properly.
It's because Flash is stretching the image to fit in an improper way. If you make your browser window smaller, it looks OK. But yeah, definitely shitty in a modern resolution window.

Quote
Ah and I didn't post it earlier, but here's the Twitter account for those interested: http://twitter.com/berserk_project (http://twitter.com/berserk_project)
I'll follow this and post anything relevant on the forum. They've made two posts so far, reposting the dates the commercials will air (also on the official corner's site), along with a blurb about how they'll be on the web within 15-seconds of airing (kinda a weird determination...)

I'll believe this when it turns out not to be a prank.
It's real. Previous rumors of another animation began and ended with something like this: "My friend who works in THE ANIME BUSINESS says everyone talks about the next Berserk anime that's in production! And he's got no reason to lie!" The announcement today is on a much, much larger scale. No one but Hakusensha has the ability to both print a slipcover for vol 35, and redesign the official hub site for the series, all geared at promoting a new animation.

It's real, it's coming, and we'll have five trailers about SOMETHING by this time next week. Worst-case scenario, it'll just be animated commercials to promote the release of volume 35. And that wouldn't even be so bad :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 28, 2010, 02:36:45 AM
Did anyone else create a twitter account for the Berserk account? :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 28, 2010, 02:40:01 AM
I'll believe this when it turns out not to be a prank.

Do you really think we'd go to the trouble of photoshopping an image, planting it online, posting it here with some random account, and coordinating the timing with the release of volume 35 and launch of the new Berserk website, which doesn't mention an anime anywhere, and then denying any involvement just because it would be the best Berserk prank ever? Naaaah. :carcus:

It's real, it is not a prank... Trust me. :griffnotevil:

Did anyone else create a twitter account for the Berserk account?

You COULD say that! :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on September 28, 2010, 03:40:12 AM
I didn't think so many would be excited. The manga already animates really well in my head. I was thinking this would be more for those who don't know about Berserk or who where to lazy read cause "What? it's in black and white and i gotta read...no way man :schierke:". I'm still gonna watch(probably buy it too) but I don't see how it can be better than the manga.Might be good for music though or more a cheery Berserk opening theme telling me to my glasses on.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on September 28, 2010, 04:26:36 AM
Do you really think we'd go to the trouble of photoshopping an image, planting it online, posting it here with some random account, and coordinating the timing with the release of volume 35 and launch of the new Berserk website, which doesn't mention an anime anywhere, and then denying any involvement just because it would be the best Berserk prank ever? Naaaah. :carcus:

It's real, it is not a prank... Trust me. :griffnotevil:

You COULD say that! :troll:
Griffith... Griff.. Griffith! N-no Griffith... :magni: :magni: :magni: :magni: :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on September 28, 2010, 06:00:43 AM
I am really hoping they take this new series far. And I mean FAR. I want to see Femto killing Ganishka and the world changing. Imagine what they could do with that giant wave.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 28, 2010, 08:14:42 AM
i have all these happy thoughts about the animated series :serpico: but i wonder if they will overly censor the amount of guts & boobies  :sad: (i hope not)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 28, 2010, 10:17:14 AM
I am really hoping they take this new series far. And I mean FAR. I want to see Femto killing Ganishka and the world changing. Imagine what they could do with that giant wave.

Thinking about it, that probably would be a good spot for them to stop, but they'd have to cover a lot of material if they didn't start after Albion and Femto's incarnation.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 10:36:30 AM
I call it an Aazealh Surprise!

We're not pulling a prank. I know it's fun and all to play it up as a conspiracy but in order to avoid derailing the thread I'm going to have to disallow that kind of post from now on.

Hehe, this has already sparked some heated debate

Let's not exaggerate. :iva:

Speaking of which, do we reckon those pictures we saw really were leaks of the new animated series?

Hard to say. According to the person who originally posted them they were made in 2008, and this new animation project is apparently just starting. But whatever the case, they lacked the quality required to meet my expectations. I'm repeating myself but I really hope the new project will be worthy of the Berserk name.

Also, didn't Miura have a comment at the end of an episode recently stating how he thought that the anime market had changed and wouldn't accept something like Berserk anymore. Or at least something along those lines?

Miura's comment for YA #21 can be translated like this (thanks puella):

"It's nothing new to say this, but anime series with a fighting man as the hero are almost dead (not popular anymore, he uses the word "destroyed", such a thing) these days, though I think there are still some people who want this kind of anime."

It's because Flash is stretching the image to fit in an improper way. If you make your browser window smaller, it looks OK. But yeah, definitely shitty in a modern resolution window.

Yeah. I mean I don't mind the Flash, it's the fact the pictures are too small compared to the average screen resolution in use around the world. Everybody's in 1280x1024 or higher nowadays.

It's real, it's coming, and we'll have five trailers about SOMETHING by this time next week. Worst-case scenario, it'll just be animated commercials to promote the release of volume 35. And that wouldn't even be so bad :void:

The old YA commercials featuring Berserk were awesome, so I expect those new ones to be as well. I think the ones on TV will just be about the series in general and volume 35 in particular, but the Web-only one might touch upon the new animation project. Maybe they'll all tease it in a way, but it seems a bit early.

I didn't think so many would be excited.

Really? The opposite would have been very surprising.

I'm still gonna watch(probably buy it too) but I don't see how it can be better than the manga.Might be good for music though or more a cheery Berserk opening theme telling me to my glasses on.

It won't be better than the manga, that's a certainty. But if it's well done it could be a good companion, providing us with a wealth of animated GIFs and sound clips. :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 11:39:09 AM
Let's not exaggerate. :iva:

What happens in the Abyss stays in the Abyss  :slan:

Quote
Hard to say. According to the person who originally posted them they were made in 2008, and this new animation project is apparently just starting. But whatever the case, they lacked the quality required to meet my expectations. I'm repeating myself but I really hope the new project will be worthy of the Berserk name.

I personally thought the quality, whilst a little rough, showed a fair amount of potential, certainly over the 97 adaptation. But this is just opinion.

Quote
The old YA commercials featuring Berserk were awesome, so I expect those new ones to be as well. I think the ones on TV will just be about the series in general and volume 35 in particular, but the Web-only one might touch upon the new animation project. Or maybe they'll all tease it in to some extent, but it seems a bit early.

Old commercials? are there any videos of these I can see online?
I do hope we get some snippets of the animation or hopefully a run down of what the new anime will cover by the weekend, I'm anticipating something really good from this, I just hope we're not let down.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 12:25:17 PM
I personally thought the quality, whilst a little rough, showed a fair amount of potential, certainly over the 97 adaptation. But this is just opinion.

Looks less dated, sure (obviously), but it's still a generic anime style that I find rather soulless. Doesn't do justice to Miura's character design. Which is to say, better than bad isn't necessarily good. :slan:

But let's wait until we see actual footage from this new project before we start discussing how good/bad it looks.

Old commercials? are there any videos of these I can see online?

Unfortunately while I have the lamer ones online, for some reason I never uploaded the good stuff. I'll do that tonight. Be warned though, it's mostly the YA logo's little dance at the end that never ceases to amuse me. :farnese:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 01:02:20 PM
Great, something else to look forward to. Where might I see the 'lamer' ones in the mean time Aaz?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 01:39:54 PM
Great, something else to look forward to. Where might I see the 'lamer' ones in the mean time Aaz?

If you insist, here are two of them, but they don't feature Berserk at all so they're of no interest: 01 (http://aazealh.net/Divers/YA_01.wmv) | 02 (http://aazealh.net/Divers/YA_02.wmv)

EDIT: And here (http://aazealh.net/Divers/YA-CM.wmv)'s the coolest!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 01:59:53 PM
Haha, that first one is great. Thanks for that Aaz, I'll try to keep it on topic now. If you happen to upload the Berserk related ones later I would appreciate a PM.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Saintly pants on September 28, 2010, 02:12:19 PM
I wonder if this will be the Berserk equivalent of Hellsing: Ultimate, wich was i huge improvement over the original anime. Especially when it came to animation quality, staying true to the manga, voice acting, Blood/tits/gore...  Actually: it was better in every way!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 28, 2010, 02:21:05 PM
Blood/tits/gore...

I'm pretty sure that there was absolutely no nudity in Hellsing. Correct me if I'm wrong. I think the closest thing to nudity was when we (Finally :troll:) see Seras' undies when she kicked the door down in the final chapter. I agree though, the OVAs are better in every way.


As mentioned before, Hellsing is a lot shorter than Berserk. The even had to add in extra content to make the OVA about an hour long to stick to the 1 volume = 1 OVA idea. I honestly don't see Berserk getting 35+ OVAs, even if they include several volumes of story into one OVA, thats still more that I think they'll be willing to make.

But, I'd LOVE to be wrong!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: perros on September 28, 2010, 02:29:12 PM
I hope it isn't something like the original anime remastered in HD or something... Like Dragonball Kai. But I doubt it will be. Ah, those trailers can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Saintly pants on September 28, 2010, 02:40:23 PM
Oh there was one bit of open nudity in Hellsing: Ultimate. It involved a forced flashback and corpse rape. And it was NASTY!

Thinking of it, if they can put something like that on a DVD, it looks promising for a Berserk OVA going all out.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 02:44:32 PM
Ah, those trailers can't come soon enough.

Don't get too excited about the commercials, like I said they're not supposed to be about the new anime but about the release of volume 35. The whole thing is pretty ambiguous, so we ought to be careful before getting too excited.

Anyway, according to some Japanese guy on Twitter (http://twitter.com/LawofGreen/status/25774166931) it could be in full CG and is being made with motion capture. Guy says he heard it from the source, but of course there's no guarantee it's true.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 28, 2010, 02:53:37 PM
Oh there was one bit of open nudity in Hellsing: Ultimate. It involved a forced flashback and corpse rape. And it was NASTY!

Hmm, I didn't notice any actual nudity during Seras flashback to her family. Thanks for clearing that up!

Thinking of it, if they can put something like that on a DVD, it looks promising for a Berserk OVA going all out.

I don't think the content of Berserk will need to be heavily censored. Censorship is the last thing I'm concerned about with the new animation.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Proj2501 on September 28, 2010, 03:14:16 PM
Wow. I'm 3 pages late to this party.

A new anime. My god.

I have a reason to begin watching anime again.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 28, 2010, 03:53:33 PM
This is all unconfirmed chatter among japanese viewers right now. We'll know more official stuff soon. Right now I'm not even sure what was shown on screen... I read something vague about Guts fighting Grunberd, but I don't trust the source further than I can spit.

But ... early reports on the first commercial that aired today on NTV were that it is an animated project for television (so, not OVA and not 3D/CG), being produced by STUDIO4℃, who generally does OVA type productions, but have also done some TV (see their full works here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_4%C2%B0C). In the west theyre known for doing things like the Animatrix shorts, and Halo Legends. They also recently did an OVA for Detroit Metal City, another Young Animal series.

*Unconfirmed info.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on September 28, 2010, 03:59:19 PM
Anyway, according to some Japanese guy on Twitter (http://twitter.com/LawofGreen/status/25774166931) it could be in full CG and is being made with motion capture. Guy says he heard it from the source, but there's no guarantee it's true.
Hopefully, this is not true. I know it is a rumor. But Berserk in full CG can't look good. It doesn't fit together, not now. maybe in 10 years when cg is able to create more plastic surfaces etc. etc.

Early reports on the first commercial that aired today on NTV were that it is an animated project for television (so, not OVA and not 3D/CG), being produced by STUDIO4℃, who generally does OVA type productions, but have also done some TV (see their full works here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_4%C2%B0C).
Studio 4°C is very neat. They are graphically very experimental and talented!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 05:00:04 PM
But ... early reports on the first commercial that aired today on NTV were that it is an animated project for television (so, not OVA and not 3D/CG), being produced by STUDIO4℃

Weren't Studio 4°C the creative team who were brought up in the rumour mill last year? I appreciate their work on the Animatrix, I just wonder what style they intend to use to bring Berserk to life.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 28, 2010, 05:02:48 PM
Weren't Studio 4°C the creative team who were brought up in the rumour mill last year?
Just to be clear, what I posted are still just rumors, just as much as they were before. It's all chatter and speculation until we see something official. And it's looking like this chatter is 90% bullshit too. More on that later...

The trouble is in deciphering tangible news on Japanese forums. The signal to noise ratio is just awful, even with the language barrier aside. Finding anything definitive said about the commercial right now is next to impossible amid all the misunderstandings and speculation. Some people claim to have seen it, others are clearly lying about content in it, and some are purporting things to be facts that have already been disproven.

With all that on the table, I'm just not going to post any more "news" until it truly is news.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 05:04:01 PM
I see, so it's probably just been brought back to life again from that previous rumour.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 05:04:54 PM
Hopefully, this is not true. I know it is a rumor. But Berserk in full CG can't look good. It doesn't fit together, not now. maybe in 10 years when cg is able to create more plastic surfaces etc. etc.

To be clear, the commercials are allegedly in CG and were done using motion capture. They're to promote the series as a whole, but there's no guarantee they're taken from the new animation project. Some Japanese people think so, but it's not a 100% sure thing or anything. Apparently the first one showed Guts & Griffith, possibly on the Hill of Swords.

I see, so it's probably just been brought back to life again from that previous rumour.

Maybe, maybe not. I wouldn't lend it too much credit for the time being. Let's be cautious and wait for pictures or the actual video.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 28, 2010, 05:42:11 PM
Pictures of the first commercial:

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4783/1285695494040.jpg

They look like the leaked pictures from those last rumors. Whoa!

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 28, 2010, 05:45:36 PM
Oh it's real. Very real.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12264010

誰も見た事のない... ベルセルク
"Nobody has ever seen this before.... Berserk" I think. Thanks, Gackt.

Go to http://mmcafe.com/nico.html  and type in this url: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12264010

Edit- alternate video before inevitable YouTube? Nvm. Here's the YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihPs4BoDvo
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 05:46:56 PM
These pictures just surfaced on 4chan, can't confirm if it's real:

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4783/1285695494040.jpg

They look like the leaked pictures from those last rumors. Whoa!

Very close in fact. Maybe that rumour was in fact true?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 28, 2010, 05:50:51 PM
Yeah I just saw it myself. It's very brief, and it's a promotion for vol 35.

The animation is from various portions of the manga, as you can see from the picture. Hard to say what period it's all from. Starts with Griffith reincarnated, then shifts to what looks like Guts circa vol 16, yet he's wearing armor from v17+. Then cuts to he and Griff's duel in the snow from v8. So... it's all over the place.

I understand it's logical to jump to the conclusion that these clips are what the anime project will look like, but that hasn't been confirmed. Right now it's just ads for volume 35.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Grail on September 28, 2010, 06:03:40 PM
Oh maaan. That shot of Griffith has me feeling optimistic, but it's still kind of difficult to gauge the quality based on such short clips. I'm very curious about what else we'll be seeing in the next few weeks. :daiba:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 06:08:34 PM
This has got me excited to see what else comes up in the online commercials over the next few days. I know things aren't on complete top form yet and we can't believe that this is fully representative of the new anime series (I can understand why people would think that) but I want to see more
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Konketsuji on September 28, 2010, 06:32:41 PM
This TV spot looks awesome, wow, I'm impressed. And it kinda reminds me of those fake screenshots that was all over the web a year ago. Maybe they weren't a fake after all.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Madam President on September 28, 2010, 06:34:19 PM
Oh it's real. Very real.
 Here's the YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihPs4BoDvo

Wow..oh, WOW! I need an Apostle-sized cigarette after watching that! :badbone:

Thank you for making my week, SkullKnight.net. <3!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 28, 2010, 06:37:56 PM

Thank you for making my week, SkullKnight.net. <3!

SK.net and Berserk in gerneral has been making my month! Japanese vol 35, english vol 34, Art of War Serpico, new episode set for Oct 8th, and now a new animation. To top it all off, my bank owes me 160 bucks! Life is good!

On topic,

That commercial looks promising, I hope the real animation is at least that quality. I was really feeling the way Griffith looked, but Guts' face looked a little chunky to me.  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 06:39:14 PM
Ok, now I have to say this whole issue is pretty confusing. Pretty bad PR from Young Animal in my opinion.

When the news first broke out and there was also this deal about new commercials, I was worried that the "anime" might refer to just that: a few commercials. But the wording used on the cover slip of volume 35 really seems to hint at a real new anime. Even Japanese people think so. But the fact they're just using the footage, seemingly at random, to advertize the series kind of worries me. Could that just be it? Why aren't they communicating more openly and clearly stating what they're doing?

Are they trying to kill 2 birds with one stone (advertizing both a new anime and volume 35) or are they just shamefully getting people excited for nothing? Like I said, I find their communication way too confusing.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JudeauChop on September 28, 2010, 06:39:40 PM
I have to admit, I don't think I've EVER been this excited for something.  
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 06:42:52 PM
Ok, now I have to say this whole issue is pretty confusing. Pretty bad PR from Young Animal in my opinion.

When the news first broke out and there was also this deal about new commercials, I was worried that the "anime" might refer to just that: a few commercials. But the wording used on the cover slip of volume 35 really seems to hint at a real new anime. Even Japanese people think so. But the fact they're just using the footage, seemingly at random, to advertize the series kind of worries me. Could that just be it? Why aren't they communicating more openly and clearly stating what they're doing?

This further raises our fears about it being misinterpreted Aaz. Hopefully more will be uncovered as the week goes on. It would be a real shame to put our hopes up only to let them down again  :farnese:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 28, 2010, 06:43:55 PM
Ok, now I have to say this whole issue is very confusing.

I agree, lots of confusion.

If I were smart I would just stay away from this thread and come back in a week or two to get the real truth on the matter. But where's the fun in that!

I was very skeptical at first, but after seeing relatively overwhelming evidence, I finally got pretty excited. I'm still optimistic and think they are just getting a 'buy one get one free' deal with this add campaign.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 06:49:47 PM
I think it would be very odd to go all out on this ad campaign just for volume 35, surely there must be more to it than that? It's such a big amount of time and effort spent on a single volume. Also the fact that the young animal web site is being revamped with new sections, including a 'coming soon' tab makes me quietly confident.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 06:53:08 PM
This further raises our fears about it being misinterpreted Aaz. Hopefully more will be uncovered as the week goes on. It would be a real shame to put our hopes up only to let them down again  :farnese:

Yeah I know, but honestly the fault lies with the Young Animal staff here. Their announcement on the cover of volume 35 was taken by everybody to mean that a proper animation project was being started, including Japanese fans, but all we're getting right now are these ads that tell us nothing. No other mention of an anime besides that. It might be simple teasing, but it strikes me as being needlessly ambiguous.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 28, 2010, 06:56:17 PM
It seems strange to me the they would even bother making an add campaign, and then releasing the commercials the day before volume 35 is set to be released. If it were just for the new volume wouldn't we have seen some signs of these adds a few weeks ago?

Maybe, maybe not I guess.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 06:56:38 PM
Yeah I know, but honestly the fault lies with the Young Animal staff here. Their announcement on the cover of volume 35 was taken by everybody to mean that a proper animation project was being started, including Japanese fans, but all we're getting right now are these ads that tell us nothing. No other mention of an anime besides that. It might be simple teasing, but it strikes me as being needlessly ambiguous.

I would still like to keep an ounce of optimism. The fact this looks a lot like those supposed leaked images from last year leads me to believe they have been working on this project for a while and it just seems a little strange to focus all this effort on 15 second shorts.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 07:01:01 PM
I would still like to keep an ounce of optimism. The fact this looks a lot like those supposed leaked images from last year leads me to believe they have been working on this project for a while and it just seems a little strange to focus all this effort on 15 second shorts.

I agree, and like Jesterhead says, why advertize the anime project on the cover of volume 35 if the anime project is just some ads for volume 35? Would make no sense. So in that regard I remain optimistic as well, and I think there is a real project behind it. I just can't help but find their marketing very sloppy.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on September 28, 2010, 07:15:35 PM
You would rather see a continuation? With all that they omitted? It wouldn't make much sense.

I would love to see a entire revamp. I just don't know what they want do yet.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 28, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
First, if that is a preview of an upcoming anime, then great.

BUT, I don't like the looks of this, the ad does resemble those stills from a while back, and it now explains why it would have shots of Black Swordsman era Guts, Casca, and Puck mixed in with a shot of Zodd from volume 5. Unfortunately, it's explained in the context of these commercials, now that we see one jumping around chronologically like that. Whatever the case, this is just bad communication all around. No mention on the revamped site of an anime, as I pointed out when I was kidding about it being a prank (hopefully, it won't amount to as much). Walter and I were talking about the confusion surrounding this last night, whether the commercials had anything to do with the anime or just volume 35, and we joked about the worst case scenario: that the "new animation" was referring only to the commercials for volume 35. I still hope it's just that, a joke, but in any case, the PR campaign surrounding all this, including the new website is, quite frankly, terrible.


P.S. If you think that's being harsh, the website design is so poor it only formats to stretch to fit by width, so on my laptop, the top of the image and Berserk logo is cut off. I thought it was supposed to be that way until I minimized it, because who does such a amateur work on a professional website these days? I could design a better Berserk website! Actually, I have, years ago, in high school... not good. =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 07:20:29 PM
I would love to see a entire revamp. I just don't know what they want do yet.

Well that commercial footage shows scenes from the Golden Age arc, the Millennium Falcon arc and possibly the Conviction arc as well (Guts' armor casts a doubt, but I suspect an error from whoever drew it. Off to a good start!).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 28, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
Now I'm worried. However, the update to the ANN article makes me a little more hopeful.

Quote
Update: Director Hiroyuki Kitakubo wrote (https://twitter.com/LawofGreen/status/25774166931) in his Twitter account on Tuesday that he heard that 4[blank]C is making Berserk  as a full-CG anime. He added that [blank]°C might be attempting to make an in-house motion capture studio. He prefaced his comments by saying that he apologizes in advance if someone considers what he posts to be confidential information. Thanks, braves. [Via raito-kun]

Updated at 2010-09-28 13:04:58

Maybe STUDIO4℃?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 07:28:53 PM
Now I'm worried. However, the update to the ANN article makes me a little more hopeful.

Maybe STUDIO4℃?

Yeah I already posted about that news on page 3 (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.msg190100#msg190100), before we saw the video. It doesn't answer the current question though: is this a full-fledged animated series or a series or short promotional clips?

On the positive side of things, it was said that more information would be provided both on YA's website and in the magazine. Since the magazine comes out next week and the commercials have been spaced to bridge the gap until now and then, I think it might hint at an attempt to tease the fans concerning this new animation project before the big reveal. I mean would they really have information in the magazine about a series of commercials? I want to believe it's more than that. (http://aazealh.net/Divers/Iwanttobelieve.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 28, 2010, 07:30:33 PM
Bah, sorry Aaz.

At least I was able to throw a studio name out there :P
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on September 28, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
I wonder if Mr. Kitakubo was only going to make a short animated promotional ad for volume 35, would he feel the need and excitement to announce it? I think the excitment of a whole new anime would be enough for him to break his silence. Of course we just don't know.  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 28, 2010, 07:36:28 PM
Pretty sure he isn't directing anything Berserk related. Rather, he's a director.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
I wonder if Mr. Kitakubo was only going to make a short animated promotional ad for volume 35, would he feel the need and excitement to announce it?

What Uriel said. The guy's just saying he heard that Studio 4°C was making it. Please pay attention. :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 28, 2010, 07:43:26 PM
I'm with the skeptical party on this one, now.

A lot has happened in the past two days. Let's review the facts:

-Volume 35's slipcover indicates a new animated project, says to stay tuned for more information.
-The Berserk Official Corner website is revamped with a "Commercial Film" section, that details the release schedule of commercials.
-A Twitter account is created to post updates about the aforementioned "Commerical Film" also being called the "CM."
-A 15-second TV spot is broadcast on NTV at around midnight Wednesday in Japan, featuring animated scenes from scattered portions of the manga, ending with a promotion for vol 35's release.

There has not been any further indication about what the animation project is. The term "animated series" has yet to be used in any of these promotions. Taken completely at face value, this is the animated project.

PS: Five pages in just over 24 hours? Where the hell were you guys over the summer?   :azan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on September 28, 2010, 07:51:17 PM
Well, there is still that coming soon section at the Berserk Corner website.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on September 28, 2010, 07:52:23 PM
I'm with the skeptical party on this one, now.

A lot has happened in the past two days. Let's review the facts:

-Volume 35's slipcover indicates a new animated project, says to stay tuned for more information.
-The Berserk Official Corner website is revamped with a "Commercial Film" section, that details the release schedule of commercials.
-A Twitter account is created to post updates about the aforementioned "Commerical Film" also being called the "CM."
-A 15-second TV spot is broadcast on NTV at around midnight Wednesday in Japan, featuring animated scenes from scattered portions of the manga, ending with a promotion for vol 35's release.

There has not been any further indication about what the animation project is. The term "animated series" has yet to be used in any of these promotions. Taken completely at face value, this is the animated project.

PS: Five pages in just over 24 hours? Where the hell were you guys over the summer?  :azan:



Yeah, as much as I was hoping for this to pan out, it just doesn't feel right saying all these news bits are supporting full a fledged anime series at the moment.  :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 28, 2010, 08:01:14 PM
Yeah, as much as I was hoping for this to pan out, it just doesn't feel right saying all these news bits are supporting full a fledged anime series at the moment.  :judo:

I'm so confused.  I feel like I'm a baby and they're teasing me with a lollypop. 

Hey kiddo, want a lollypop?

YES!!! D :

Okay! Here's a wrapper...maybe it's part of a lollypop...maybe not!

I'm going to do the same thing I do with sonic games in order not to have my soul crushed, which is not to jump to conclusions.  Although I do hope for the best, and damn if that animation (whatever it is) doesn't look good.  Griffith looks fantastic.  Very 2010.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 08:02:17 PM
Whilst I fully support the skeptical side to all this, my optimistic side keeps going over

- This a lot of effort to appease to a minority of people who would ONLY want to see 15 second shorts
- The project seems to have been going on for some time, why has it taken so long to get to this moment? Unless they were just waiting on the release of Volume 35?
- Why dot the animation across various parts of the Berserk story and release it in 15 second segments over a week? I can't see the logic, other than to tease the people who want an anime.
- Why show off these shorts AFTER the release of the manga instead of building up to it?
- Why revamp the Young Animal site after such a lengthy time for a few adverts?

The only thing I can think of, is this could also be a water test to see how much buzz it creates to potentially green light a new Berserk series? I'm sure we'll discover more over the coming week. I hope they speak up sooner rather than later though, otherwise we're going to have one mass internet groan.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 28, 2010, 08:09:28 PM
Looking at the animation from an objective standpoint, it doesn't make sense to advertise volume 35.  If the clips were meant to promote the volume, wouldn't they...perhaps have content from said volume?

JezzaX has some good points.  It doesn't make a lot of sense.  I guess all we can do is wait around for someone to announce some more official news on the matter.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 08:10:20 PM
The only thing I can think of, is this could also be a water test to see how much buzz it creates to potentially green light a new Berserk series?

That's a possibility. They might also have had that test footage done a while back (2 years ago?) and decided to use it now rather than let it forever untouched. The 2 hypotheses being compatible with each other. Personally I'll remain hopeful until we get the final word on this story. I think they're making way too big a deal of this stuff for it to just amount to a marketing ploy. In any case it'll only be a week at most until we know for sure, so let's just try and be patient in the meantime.

P.S. Is it just me or does the Griffith footage look better than the Guts one? What if they took some old test footage, a preview of which we'd already gotten a year ago, and slapped it together with new footage in order to have something comprehensive to show?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 08:27:04 PM
P.S. Is it just me or does the Griffith footage look better than the Guts one? What if they took some old test footage, a preview of which we'd already gotten a year ago, and slapped it together with new footage in order to have something comprehensive to show?

I think the reason you would have that impression is due to the different angle and frames of animation. The Griffith footage is obviously intended to have a light blooming effect and is meant to be a slow moving atmospheric shot, while the Guts' footage is dark and fast with far more movement, so obviously harder to animate well.

Something else that has come to mind. Maybe this isn't a series but in fact a whole new project where they tell separate stories throughout Berserk in 15-30 minute shorts/episodes, a lot like The Animatrix, Gotham Knight and Halo Legends have done before now?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 28, 2010, 08:28:26 PM
P.S. Is it just me or does the Griffith footage look better than the Guts one? What if they took some old test footage, a preview of which we'd already gotten a year ago, and slapped it together with new footage in order to have something comprehensive to show?

I don't think they're that different. Well, a single episode of an anime can have scenes that vary in quality of animation and art, and the contrast between the two scenes on the commercial isn't strong enough for me to notice anything, at least.

Young Animal you're tearing me APART!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JudeauChop on September 28, 2010, 08:29:54 PM
Young Animal you're tearing me APART!

Hear here. I hope they announce something solid soon.  Hopefully by the Oct 5th date anyhow.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 28, 2010, 08:33:41 PM
I'm going to stay optimistic... because frankly, at this point... there is no turning back for me now.  Too much emotion on the heart.  My mind will not be able to comprehend anything afterwards if this new animated project ends up just being the commercials.  I swear, I will end up like Casca :???:.

On a side note, read those comments on the youtube video.  HAHAHAH, there are some happy fans I'm telling you!!!  Berserk peeps are going nuts!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 28, 2010, 08:40:26 PM
Young Animal you're tearing me APART!

This was read by Mark in my mind.
I'm going to stay optimistic... because frankly, at this point... there is no turning back for me now.  Too much emotion on the heart.  My mind will not be able to comprehend anything afterwards if this new animated project ends up just being the commercials.  I swear, I will end up like Casca :???:.
If that's the case, I'd be happy to take care of your statues.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 08:40:55 PM
On a side note, read those comments on the youtube video.  HAHAHAH, there are some happy fans I'm telling you!!!  Berserk peeps are going nuts!!!

Yeah, I just noticed that the translation of the text is 'Berserk Begins'. So is Christopher Nolan doing another reboot?  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 08:42:48 PM
I think the reason you would have that impression is due to the different angle and frames of animation. The Griffith footage is obviously intended to have a light blooming effect and is meant to be a slow moving atmospheric shot, while the Guts' footage is dark and fast with far more movement, so obviously harder to animate well.

Of course, but the Guts segment looks distinctly gross to me so I was looking for some kind of reassurance here. Thanks for nothing! :ganishka:

Something else that has come to mind. Maybe this isn't a series but in fact a whole new project where they tell separate stories throughout Berserk in 15-30 minute shorts/episodes, a lot like The Animatrix, Gotham Knight and Halo Legends have done before now?

Sounds plausible. It's not like they could have animated so much of the series already if they were planning to do it all anyway.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Proj2501 on September 28, 2010, 08:50:59 PM
I mean, all these scenes from various arcs could be flashbacks. Also, why 35? Why make such a big deal over 35? I mean, it's great but 34 was the real ZOMG volume of the last 2. New site, new commercial for vol. 35 with new animation. Idk...Maybe an OVA. I would say an OVA is more likely than an entire series. Who knows, I don't.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 08:54:45 PM
Of course, but the Guts segment looks distinctly gross to me so I was looking for some kind of reassurance here. Thanks for nothing! :ganishka:

Apologies Aaz, I was just saying what I saw  :ganishka:

Sounds plausible. It's not like they could have animated so much of the series already if they were planning to do it all anyway.

I hope I'm wrong and that this is a whole new series and they're just showing off random test footage they have done from later episodes. Since, if it were something like 7 or so short films then it means it would be many many more years before we see a faithful representation of the Berserk series as a whole.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 28, 2010, 09:09:56 PM
If that's the case, I'd be happy to take care of your statues.  :ganishka:

You know, in all seriousness, if this ends up being a full fledged series, it's gonna make Berserk statue/kit collecting even more cut throat than it already is!  Better buy up your backlog of statues on YJ and ebay now!!!! :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 09:11:27 PM
Also, why 35? Why make such a big deal over 35? I mean, it's great but 34 was the real ZOMG volume of the last 2.

Maybe simply to boost up sales? Last year was the 20th anniversary and they did a special event for it which coincided with volume 34's release. This year we get something else (regardless of the anime business, volume 35 is clearly being promoted here, that's undeniable).

I hope I'm wrong and that this is a whole new series and they're just showing off random test footage they have done from later episodes.

If you check the Guts footage from the commercial (http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4783/1285695494040.jpg), it matches up with one of the pictures we got last year, the one of Guts in the woods (http://i29.tinypic.com/2e1bt4j.jpg). It's clearly the same scene as far as I'm concerned. Now, if we believe what the guy who originally posted it said, that footage was from 2008. That means it's over 2 years old and would mark it almost certainly as test footage.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
If you check the Guts footage from the commercial, it matches up with one of the pictures we got last year, the one of Guts in the woods. It's clearly the same scene as far as I'm concerned. Now, if we believe what the guy who originally posted it said, that footage was from 2008. That means it's over 2 years old and would mark it almost certainly as test footage.

It's hard to know what to make of it all though. Surely the footage of Guts taking on soldiers from that same scene is to be shown in one way or another. If none of those pictures show up in any footage from the 5 shorts we're due to be given, then it could be safe to assume there's more to it. If we're going back as far as 2008 since they first started dealing with this footage, it's been one HECK of a long time and a lot of money to do just an ad for TV, so the way I see it we're more than likely going to get something else. I doubt very much this was devised just to boost manga sales.

You know, in all seriousness, if this ends up being a full fledged series, it's gonna make Berserk statue/kit collecting even more cut throat than it already is!  Better buy up your backlog of statues on YJ and ebay now!!!! :griffnotevil:

Hopefully we would see production of new, or at least, more statues due to the popularity from the anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 09:24:20 PM
Surely the footage of Guts taking on soldiers from that same scene is to be shown in one way or another.

It's basically the next frame in that scene, so it's like we've seen it already as far as I'm concerned.

If none of those pictures show up in any footage from the 5 shorts we're due to be given, then it could be safe to assume there's more to it. If we're going back as far as 2008 since they first started dealing with this footage, it's been one HECK of a long time and a lot of money to do just an ad for TV, so the way I see it we're more than likely going to get something else. I doubt very much this was devised just to boost manga sales.

See what I said:

That's a possibility. They might also have had that test footage done a while back (2 years ago?) and decided to use it now rather than let it forever untouched.

Who knows, that special web-only commercial might just be the whole footage put together for all we know.

Also, notice how there's no sound accompanying the clip. No sound effects or voice acting. Just music (the singer is called "Tomo the Tomo" for those who care) and Gackt's narration. That's consistent with test footage.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 09:33:20 PM
Damn you for being right Aaz  :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 28, 2010, 09:34:24 PM
When Hellsing Ultimate was being promoted, there was a video called Broken English that was used showing footage from multiple parts of the series. Some of the footage was redone and some is from later in the series and hasn't even been animated properly yet. I guess what I'm saying is that there's a good chance this is all test footage, like Aaz said, and isn't from the series proper. The good news is that it doesn't necessarily mean there isn't going to be an OVA or TV series, just that they're using this to promote Vol. 35 and tease us a bit about the upcoming anime (as others have said). I'm going to stay optimistic at this point.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: yesmilord on September 28, 2010, 09:36:49 PM
You know, in all seriousness, if this ends up being a full fledged series, it's gonna make Berserk statue/kit collecting even more cut throat than it already is!  Better buy up your backlog of statues on YJ and ebay now!!!! :griffnotevil:

Sadly, Derek, that's the FIRST thing that came to my mind.  :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 28, 2010, 09:37:06 PM
If you check the Guts footage from the commercial (http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4783/1285695494040.jpg), it matches up with one of the pictures we got last year, the one of Guts in the woods (http://i29.tinypic.com/2e1bt4j.jpg). It's clearly the same scene as far as I'm concerned. Now, if we believe what the guy who originally posted it said, that footage was from 2008. That means it's over 2 years old and would mark it almost certainly as test footage.

Yeah, out of several 20-minute episodes of an anime series, why would they use exactly the old 2008 footage of Guts fighting (with no noticeable improvements) for the commercial? Maybe because there's not enough footage?

Also, notice how there's no sound accompanying the clip. No sound effects or voice acting. Just music (the singer is called "Tomo the Tomo" for those who care) and Gackt's narration. That's consistent with test footage.

And why would they focus so much on Gackt voicing the commercials? They even wrote "Voice: Gackt" on the last frames. It's like there's nothing to look forward to but these commercials.

Like Walter said, so far there has been no mention of an anime series. Not on the new website, not on the commercial, not on the Twitter account. It reeks of test footage being reused to promote the manga.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 09:38:52 PM
The good news is that it doesn't necessarily mean there isn't going to be an OVA or TV series, just that they're using this to promote Vol. 35 and tease us a bit about the upcoming anime (as others have said). I'm going to stay optimistic at this point.

Exactly. Just because the commercial footage is animated doesn't necessarily mean it's from the new project, like I said a while ago. But regardless of what's what, I can't help but reiterate that this promotional campaign is terribly confusing. It's baffling, the way they're handling it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Majin Tenshi on September 28, 2010, 09:43:34 PM
Awesome.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 28, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
PS: Five pages in just over 24 hours? Where the hell were you guys over the summer?  :azan:

 :void: ...

OMG SEASON 2!!? :isidro:  :rakshas: :ubik: :mozgus: :daiba: :magni: :troll: :schnoz:       :void:!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Irvine on September 28, 2010, 10:00:18 PM
So there isn't a new anime? Just random sequences to promote volume 35? That hurts. :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 10:00:59 PM
So there isn't a new anime? Just random sequences to promote volume 35? That hurts. :judo:

Nothing is sure yet; don't jump to conclusions. There's a project starting, we just don't know what it is. We have to be patient and wait for definitive information.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 28, 2010, 10:04:15 PM
So there isn't a new anime? Just random sequences to promote volume 35? That hurts. :judo:

We don't know that yet, it's much more promising than if there was nothing about an animation or animated commercials, it's just unfortunate that we're kind of left twisting in the wind without definitive confirmation and details. I mean, look at all this speculation (some of which we could have come up with without any announcement, like about test footage, etc), if it's an attempt to create buzz for an anime, mission accomplished, if there is no anime, EPIC FAIL.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 10:59:35 PM
Changing the topic a bit, but I liked Gackt's performance in that commercial.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 28, 2010, 11:06:05 PM
Sneeze and you'd miss him. Anyone fancy a role for Mr. Gackt if this thing actually happens?

Maybe Miura has already started writing out a part for him :void:

(http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/3849/lyuogacktgd1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
Sneeze and you'd miss him. Anyone fancy a role for Mr. Gackt if this thing actually happens?

Why not Griffith? Not that I dislike the usual guy or anything, but it seems fitting if he were to play a part.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 28, 2010, 11:23:02 PM
Why not Griffith? Not that I dislike the usual guy or anything, but it seems fitting if he were to play a part.
Yeah I also liked him in this. I dunno though, I can see how he might be able to pull off Griffith, but he sounds a little too rough for the part to me.

If they do end up changing the VAs though, I'd like Guts to be voiced by someone who can fill his 6 foot frame. The former voice actor, while nailing the rough tone, always sounded too high-pitched when he was screaming (RAAAAH instead of ROOOUUUAAAHHHH if that makes any sense  :farnese: ).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on September 28, 2010, 11:23:49 PM
The commercial doesn't even have nothing to do with Volume 35. My prediction is their will be an animated series and its going to be a remake of the first season and have more of course. The style of animation is a thousand times better than the old anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 28, 2010, 11:26:01 PM
That seems to be the popular choice on a certain image board.

I dunno, I like Toshiyuki Morikawa. Guts would also feel weird if it wasn't the original too. Hard to say. It's been so long.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on September 28, 2010, 11:27:59 PM
Everything here is confusing. Aaz you're right, he has a good narrating voice. Like it too. But i don't think he would be the best choice for griffith. he should have a warm,soft but authorative voice.
Anyway, am i the only one that didn't like the scene in the snow? It was a bit exaggerated and dramatic. I thought of a very gentle but very depressing scenario. and not with a fountains of snow and a camera surge.. :beast:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 28, 2010, 11:28:38 PM
Guts would also feel weird if it wasn't the original too. Hard to say. It's been so long.

It wouldn't bother me at all.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on September 28, 2010, 11:32:09 PM
Yeah I also liked him in this. I dunno though, I can see how he might be able to pull off Griffith, but he sounds a little too rough for the part to me.

If they do end up changing the VAs though, I'd like Guts to be voiced by someone who can fill his 6 foot frame. The former voice actor, while nailing the rough tone, always sounded too high-pitched when he was screaming (RAAAAH instead of ROOOUUUAAAHHHH if that makes any sense  :farnese: ).

The voice actor for Guts in the English dub was very good. Actually, everyone in the English dub sounded and performed great. We probably won't be seeing the original cast for both the Japanese and English Media Blaster cast coming back. I'm guessing in Japan Studio 4C will be doing all the work for the series, while in America Funimation does the promotion/licensing.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 28, 2010, 11:33:05 PM
The voice actor for Guts in the English dub was very good. Actually, everyone in the English dub sounded and performed great. We probably won't be seeing the original cast for both the Japanese and English Media Blaster cast coming back. I'm guessing in Japan Studio 4C will be doing all the work for the series, while in America Funimation does the promotion/licensing.

I completely disagree, I'd want everyone replaced instead of using the (dubbed) cast.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Lara Skadi on September 28, 2010, 11:35:26 PM

Anyway, am i the only one that didn't like the scene in the snow? It was a bit exaggerated and dramatic. I thought of a very gentle but very depressing scenario. and not with a fountains of snow and a camera surge.. :beast:
The only thing that bothers me is that if it`s supposed to be the scene Guts left the Hawks, it`s just wrong  :azan: Guts wasnt wearing an armor! Plus, Griffith`s sword doesnt look broken, but there`s not enough to tell, really....
Thing is I cant tell any other scene that one was referencing to....
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 28, 2010, 11:37:17 PM
The voice actor for Guts in the English dub was very good. Actually, everyone in the English dub sounded and performed great. We probably won't be seeing the original cast for both the Japanese and English Media Blaster cast coming back. I'm guessing in Japan Studio 4C will be doing all the work for the series, while in America Funimation does the promotion/licensing.

I disagree. I can watch the anime, provided it's in Japanese, the English dubs were nasty in my opinion, they just appeared lifeless and comedic. Mind you it's not often that an English dub is done to a good standard, unless it's ADV.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 28, 2010, 11:46:04 PM
The voice actor for Guts in the English dub was very good. Actually, everyone in the English dub sounded and performed great.
I never liked the english dub, because they often overacted in key emotional scenes, as is typical with most dubs.

Also, I found a lot of their voicework irreverant. (click) (http://skullknight.net/images/guts testimony2.wav)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on September 28, 2010, 11:47:29 PM
Media Blasters is my favorite out of all the anime companies based in the USA because of one fact. Bringing over both of my favorite series from Japan,  Berserk and Rurouni Kenshin.

Well anyway, Susumu Hirasawa better do the music to the animated series if it happens.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 28, 2010, 11:51:58 PM
Sorry, my wife and I were just watching clips of the dub. We both agree.... pretty jeffing bad. Casca literally made my wife "Ugh."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 28, 2010, 11:55:21 PM
Also, I found a lot of their voicework irreverant. (click) (http://skullknight.net/images/guts testimony2.wav)

That was awful. Why did they insist on making Guts sound like that?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: berserkfan on September 28, 2010, 11:57:26 PM
Does anyone else think that (assuming there is an anime series in progress of being made) the reason after all these years they've finally decided to make a new animation series is its because the mangas getting closer to being complete?? If they're really planning on revamping it from the beginning then it may be because they think they have more then enough material to work with. Miuras probably even met up with the studio heads and given them an estimate of when the manga might be done, so that by the time they get around to the current arc the manga will probably either be done or atleast 90% finished. What do you guys think??
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 29, 2010, 12:01:45 AM
Does anyone else think that (assuming there is an anime series in progress of being made) the reason after all these years they've finally decided to make a new animation series is its because the mangas getting closer to being complete?? If they're really planning on revamping it from the beginning then it may be because they think they have more then enough material to work with. Miuras probably even met up with the studio heads and given them an estimate of when the manga might be done, so that by the time they get around to the current arc the manga will probably either be done or atleast 90% finished. What do you guys think??

Not impossible, but highly doubtful. Miura has said to this very community that he was approximately 60-70% complete in about April of last year (if memory serves me), which equates to about another 10 years of manga to be developed. Of course, that's dependent on how many changes Miura would like to make. Also, there is a lot of story left to be tied up.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 29, 2010, 12:02:09 AM
Does anyone else think that (assuming there is an anime series in progress of being made) the reason after all these years they've finally decided to make a new animation series is its because the mangas getting closer to being complete??

Nope.
Quote from: Miura
I think we are at about 60-70%. However, I myself don’t know anything for sure when it comes to the future.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: berserkfan on September 29, 2010, 12:07:22 AM
If the anime series goes on for several years (since they do have alot of stuff to cover), then it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that he'd be done atleast an additional 20% of the manga by the time the anime gets around to fantasia arc.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 29, 2010, 12:21:38 AM
The english dubs weren't fantastic, but they never made me gag either.  That being said, it's been probably a year since I watched the anime all the way through.  I preferred the original language, but there were a few voices that stuck out to me as interesting...Griffith had a nice tone to his voice, although his delivery was a little stiff at times.  The narrator/Void just had a wicked voice.

and of course Sean Schemmel as Gaston.  Haha, AKA Goku from Dragon Ball Z.  Fun stuff.

Edit: Walter, your links broken now...sad face!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 29, 2010, 12:32:25 AM
Here's Studio4℃'s blog: http://studio4c.jugem.jp/

There's nothing about Berserk, but we should probably keep an eye on it since it's been updated with their new projects lately.

Shit, I'm already crawling at the gutter looking for clues. I'm gonna ban myself from this thread. :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 29, 2010, 12:41:20 AM
Here's Studio4℃'s blog: http://studio4c.jugem.jp/

There's nothing about Berserk, but we should probably keep an eye on it since it's been updated with their new projects lately.

Shit, I'm already crawling at the gutter looking for clues. I'm gonna ban myself from this thread. :sad:

You're excused, it's a good place to keep an eye on. I'm currently waiting to see if anything comes out of Japan from people who now have volume 35 in their hand to tell us if there is anything of relevance inside regarding the anime info. It's closing in on midday there now, someone must have something  :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 29, 2010, 01:13:28 AM
Just checked http://www.younganimal.com to find this:

(http://skullknight.net/images/berserk_animefuel.jpg)

Clicking it links to the official corner, where there's no new information. Just more fuel for the anime fire... If anything though, it just confirms that THIS IS the anime, folks! :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: asic on September 29, 2010, 01:21:58 AM
mmmm those 15 seconds of animated Berserk were great :guts: nom nom, can't wait for more info. Would be awesome if Susumu Hirasawa did the music again.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death_Maiden on September 29, 2010, 01:29:53 AM
If this is for real, there is no question that this SHOULD be better then the original, plus no reason to write Puck out of it  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on September 29, 2010, 01:34:33 AM
Being on the front page of Young Animal pretty much confirms its going to happen now. What more confirmation do you need lol.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 29, 2010, 01:38:33 AM
I think Walter meant that the anime in question are the commercials themselves.

Anyway, the source of the news posted on Anime News Network does not seem to mention any kind of anime series as well (can anyone that speaks Japanese confirm this?) http://natalie.mu/comic/news/38251

Every paragraph is about the commercials, focusing on Gackt. Uh oh!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Proj2501 on September 29, 2010, 01:39:05 AM
Jesus. This is so crazy. I remember all the B.S. rumors and honestly never ever thinking we'd see a NEW anime.

Can some edit the panel after Qliphoth where Guts looks at his new band and thinks how he'd never thought it'd be like that again and make it apply to this new anime? :ubik:

Being a fan of Berserk has only gotten better and better, I hope everyone is realizing that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 29, 2010, 01:45:02 AM
That image is very promising, no way around it, anyone with a brain would assume it's referring to a new anime... unfortunately, Young Animal's brain is still the one in question. If they have one, it's beyond coincidence, so either there's definitely a new anime, or YA is being intentionally misleading. They're either very smart, or very dumb (or we are =). All I know is it'd be horrible if they were actually referring to only the commercials themselves as the "BERSERK Anime Project." :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 29, 2010, 01:51:01 AM
Being a fan of Berserk has only gotten better and better, I hope everyone is realizing that.

There's no need for new animes or commercials for us to realize that. :guts:

All I know is it'd be horrible if they were actually referring to only the commercials themselves as the "BERSERK Anime Project." :ganishka:

After all this, I wouldn't be surprised. :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Xem on September 29, 2010, 01:53:21 AM
I, like many others, am so excited at the prospect it's hard to be objective about the matter. Miura has been taking noticeably longer breaks, this could easily be the reason imho. At the same time though, like has been speculated, this could just be footage that is simply not being wasted.

Either way, Miura sure likes to tease us. Just like in our interview when we asked about a new Berserk anime. "It's possible." Ugh.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 29, 2010, 02:06:03 AM
this thread keeps picking me up on my feet and then pushing me down :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 29, 2010, 02:54:41 AM
Anyway, the source of the news posted on Anime News Network does not seem to mention any kind of anime series as well (can anyone that speaks Japanese confirm this?) http://natalie.mu/comic/news/38251

Every paragraph is about the commercials, focusing on Gackt. Uh oh!
That article is old. Aaz used information from it back on like Page 01. It just announces the commercial dates, and that Gackt is attached in some way.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on September 29, 2010, 03:27:37 AM
whew!! I just read all the pages of this thread and I'm exhausted.

Derek/Yesmylord: Yeah, I didn't even think about the statues would be valued even more! and I just bought the 1/6 scale Guts 2010 too!

Alright..we gotta just hold off guys... stop making my feelings go up and down! Heh, and October 5th is my birthday.. so this might be the best birthday ever!!!   ...might.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 29, 2010, 04:58:07 AM
Reading "BERSERK ANIME PROJECT START!" Sure does give the impression of a full blown anime.  If this isn't a series or an OVA it would be lame beyond lame.  Super lame.  Ultra lame.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 29, 2010, 05:16:08 AM
Yeah, at this point, it would be a beyond, super, ultra, lame dirty trick.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 29, 2010, 07:50:45 AM
Yeah I also liked him in this. I dunno though, I can see how he might be able to pull off Griffith, but he sounds a little too rough for the part to me.

This is Gackt we're talking about, so I'm sure he'd have no problem softening his voice if he needed to.

If they do end up changing the VAs though, I'd like Guts to be voiced by someone who can fill his 6 foot frame. The former voice actor, while nailing the rough tone, always sounded too high-pitched when he was screaming (RAAAAH instead of ROOOUUUAAAHHHH if that makes any sense  :farnese: ).

Hmm I don't know, out of all the voice actors, he's the one I liked the most I think.

The commercial doesn't even have nothing to do with Volume 35. My prediction is their will be an animated series and its going to be a remake of the first season and have more of course.

Thanks for your insight.

The style of animation is a thousand times better than the old anime.

Unfortunately, nothing in there strikes me as being a "thousand times better" than the 1997 series. Not even twice better actually.

The voice actor for Guts in the English dub was very good. Actually, everyone in the English dub sounded and performed great.

I never understood how anyone could think they were even remotely close to tolerable, let alone good. That English dub is just appalling. It's like a parody.

The only thing that bothers me is that if it`s supposed to be the scene Guts left the Hawks, it`s just wrong  :azan: Guts wasnt wearing an armor! Plus, Griffith`s sword doesnt look broken, but there`s not enough to tell, really....

That's indeed the scene it's depicting. It couldn't possibly be another one. And like I pointed out earlier there are other inaccuracies in the footage, and some pretty big ones at that.

Does anyone else think that (assuming there is an anime series in progress of being made) the reason after all these years they've finally decided to make a new animation series is its because the mangas getting closer to being complete?? If they're really planning on revamping it from the beginning then it may be because they think they have more then enough material to work with. Miuras probably even met up with the studio heads and given them an estimate of when the manga might be done, so that by the time they get around to the current arc the manga will probably either be done or atleast 90% finished. What do you guys think??

I don't think that's going to happen. First, we don't know what they're planning to do. Nothing guarantees they'll try to adapt the whole series (if they did, I think the end of the Millennium Falcon arc would be the perfect place to stop). Second, the manga won't be 90% done any time soon. There's absolutely no way they could start a project now and still be going without having stopped by the time the manga reaches its end.

If the anime series goes on for several years (since they do have alot of stuff to cover), then it wouldn't be a stretch to believe that he'd be done atleast an additional 20% of the manga by the time the anime gets around to fantasia arc.

Yes it would be a stretch. Berserk has been going on for over 20 years now, and it's not being released any faster than it used to be. I'll say it again: we don't know anything about this new project for now, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Being on the front page of Young Animal pretty much confirms its going to happen now. What more confirmation do you need lol.

It's just the same thing that was on volume 35's cover. Nothing new.

Anyway, the source of the news posted on Anime News Network does not seem to mention any kind of anime series as well (can anyone that speaks Japanese confirm this?) http://natalie.mu/comic/news/38251

Like Walter said I posted about this on page 1 of the thread, before ANN updated their article with it. It's what made me wary of this whole business in the first place.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 29, 2010, 11:16:22 AM
When I initally began to doubt the actual existence of the new animation, I was actually met with relief, rather than disappointment.

Last night (while stuck in traffic/construction :mozgus:) I was thinking about how this new animation would fit into the current Berserk franchise. Right now us fans have arguably the best manga being published, an obviously dedicated writer, some very nice merchandise etc, etc... And now that I think about it, I kind of want it to stay that way. Yes, the new animation would be damn cool to watch, and it would be a great new way to represent Miuras story. Berserk would, without a doubt, become more popular than it ever was.

Personally, I am very content with the state that Berserk is in right now. With so many moe blob anime and typical shounen manga being published, Berserk has managed to pull itself away from the stereotypes of its chosen media. Through its detailed art work, and genuine story Miura has brought Berserk into a league of its own. While Berserk by no means has a small fan base, it is relatively tiny compared to some other monstrous manga/anime out there at the moment. Those fans who truly enjoy the series and actively discuss it on websites like SK.net are dedicated and genuinely respectful and thankful for the franchise.

Though Berserk has a lot of fans, it doesn't feel like some huge untouchable topic. When a company like Art of War reaches out to the fans asking them what new statue they would like to see next, and honestly receiving and processing that feedback, speaks volumes in my opinion. Clearly they respect the manga, and the fans opinions on it. This and the fact that Berserk isn't the most popular manga around makes the whole franchise and community feel very small and connected. I've only been reading Berserk for the last year now, but I feel more attached to the development of the franchise than to novel series I've been reading for say, five years. Though I am a new fan to the franchise, I get a very 'down to earth' and personal feel from the fan base.

Just as the some companies within the franchise are dedicated, so are the fans. It honestly makes me proud to be a fan of Berserk when I see projects like 1:1 helmet replicas, custom sculptures and the new "Berserk Anime Recut" project. There are many talented people out there who want to take time out of their busy days to help improve something they love. It's like they are writing their own additions to the Berserk story. That is such a great thing!

Right now, to me, Berserk feels like my own little book I can carry around in my pocket which I can pull out and read whenever I like and have the option to write a little bit in the back or margins myself. (If I was a little bit more artistically gifted!)

What I fear, with this new animation is that that book will soon be too big to just be able to carry around in my back pocket. I honestly think Berserk is in a great balance right now, and I'm not sure what the new animation will do to it. Worse case scenario that everyone and their dog now "loves" Berserk. I'm afraid that this will make Berserk a little bit less special, and that who ever is involved with the new animation just might not treat it with the same respect that a lot of us do now. The last thing I want to see is something like GoodSmileComany making a Casca figma, or Megahouse starting to produce PVC Berserk figures. I think half the reason I like Berserk is because it's that great story that few people know about.  

Now, thats not to say that I won't keep loving the manga or franchise after the (possible) new animation airs, or that this new animation will "ruin" Berserk or anything.

I know this is a pretty selfish thing to say, but I can't help it. It always bothers me when something I like (novels, comic, musical groups, etc...) gets to big for it to have that special feel to it. And theres even no guarantee that that will happen even if the new animation does go through.

Does anyone else feel this way?

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 29, 2010, 12:00:29 PM
Personally I'm almost completely neutral towards this new project at the moment. I'm neither apprehensive nor excited. I'll wait to know more before forming an opinion (shocking, I know). I just hope they'll pour enough money and talent into it to make it good.

I'm afraid that this will make Berserk a little bit less special, and that who ever is involved with the new animation just might not treat it with the same respect that a lot of us do now.

You know, compared to us most people on the Internet do not treat Berserk or its author with any respect at all. In that regard a new anime would not change too many things. Even if it doesn't do it justice, what difference will it make? The 1997 TV series didn't do it justice either (but it brought most of us into the series and it would be unfair to disregard that fact). Berserk will always be Berserk, nothing will change that. And as far as the fan base goes, SK.net won't change either.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: asic on September 29, 2010, 12:17:47 PM
I am completly positive about this new project. If anything it will be good entertainment during manga breaks and whatnot. The 1997 anime has brought many to the manga (incl. me) and if the new anime can do that and maybe beyond it's gonna be awesome. Hopefully the animation studio are more true to this project.

Jesterhead: I can't see how a new anime should change anything at all? If you are worried about thousands of naruto fans and trolls coming on SK.net because the anime will be a succes then I think Aazealh will have the banhammer ready  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dembol on September 29, 2010, 12:41:29 PM
@Jesterhead
I feel completey different and I personally hate such attitude. I'm into all kinds of alternative music and it really makes me mad/sad when people hipsters say "I liked Band XYZ much better before everyone else started listening to them" or "Was that Band XYZ's song in that commercial? I didn't know they were so burned". I can understand the reasons for such attitude since everyone likes to feel special and be a part of something that feels like it's only their own and to be honest I sometimes too have such feelings, but I think it's more reasonable to be happy when my favourite bands/authors get more exposure. That means more potential fans, more copies sold and more money. Financial stability in turn translates into artistic integrity and quality of the creator's work since he/she is not forced to look for more profitable jobs or adapt the main source of income to be more profitable. Unless of course money becomes the creator's only goal, but I doubt that it will ever be a case with Berserk :guts:
I also doubt that the sudden rise in popularity will change the core fanbase.

As for the new anime itself I'm fairly optimistic, but I'm waiting for more official information before I start stating more opinions.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 29, 2010, 12:45:14 PM
@Jesterhead
I feel completey different and I personally hate such attitude.

I can understand that. Like I said, my thoughts were very selfish. Saying that, if the new animation does happen, I'm going to watch it/buy it, and probably like it. Whether it's good or bad I'll hold no bitterness against it. I'm just saying I am very content with the franchise right now.  

Jesterhead: I can't see how a new anime should change anything at all? If you are worried about thousands of naruto fans and trolls coming on SK.net because the anime will be a succes then I think Aazealh will have the banhammer ready  :troll:

It's not so much that I don't want new fans or trolling, its just that I think my personal opinion will change (not for the worse) when Berserk can't be small enough to be my own little thing.

But of course, like I said my fears are sort of a 'worse case scenario', and theres a damn good chance that they won't be that bad. Like Aaz said, Berserk will always be Berserk.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on September 29, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
You know, compared to us most people on the Internet do not treat Berserk or its author with any respect at all. In that regard a new anime would not change too many things. Even if it doesn't do it justice, what difference will it make? The 1997 TV series didn't do it justice either (but it brought most of us into the series and it would be unfair to disregard that fact). Berserk will always be Berserk, nothing will change that. And as far as the fan base goes, SK.net won't change either.
I second that! And the fact that it won't be like the manga is clear to me. You would need a very high budget to realize a very true to the manga anime version, lots of time and talent. So why don't script the story in to another direction and i think they will manage something likeable. But a interpretation of your beloved story is everytime a very interesting thing. So any approach on the berserk story is interesting to me. the best example of a film adaption is lord of the rings. The movies are amazing. They are superb. Even though they never covered every part of the books, never reached the depth of the original story. they were amazing. the only thing you could worry about is that more will just look the movies but don't read the original story. but that's highly doubtful
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on September 29, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
I second that! And the fact that it won't be like the manga is clear to me. You would need a very high budget to realize a very true to the manga anime version, lots of time and talent. So why don't script the story in to another direction and i think they will manage something likeable. But a interpretation of your beloved story is everytime a very interesting thing. So any approach on the berserk story is interesting to me. the best example of a film adaption is lord of the rings. The movies are amazing. They are superb. Even though they never covered every part of the books, never reached the depth of the original story. they were amazing. the only thing you could worry about is that more will just look the movies but don't read the original story. but that's highly doubtful

The Lord of the Rings films were still far, far more faithful to the original work than the average film adaptation, though (see Dragonball Evolution). Standard procedure would have been to take a few elements from all three books and randomly sprinkle them into a single 120-minute film with similar character names and few other similarities... probably in a modern-day setting.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on September 29, 2010, 12:59:30 PM
They were also far more faithful to the original work than the vast majority of film adaptations, though (see Dragonball Evolution). Normal procedure would have been to take a few elements from all three books and randomly sprinkle them into a single 120-minute film using similar character names, probably in a modern-day setting.
That's right, but you can't possible expect the most faithful version. I mean, the most faithful version to lord of the rings were maybe 4-6 films. But that wouldn't be the best cinema experience. I just wanted to express the fact that there wouldn't be a very true anime version of berserk, i think it is impossible. But it can be very true to the anime with a scope of own development. It just was important to me, because i had the feeling there are many that hope for the most true anime version.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 29, 2010, 02:03:57 PM
After watching the commercial several times now, I have to comment on the music. It's absolutely beautiful and reminds me a bit of Hirasawa's "Guts" from Kenpu Denki Berserk's soundtrack. Does anyone know what it's from? Is it an original piece made specifically for the commercial/upcoming anime?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: asic on September 29, 2010, 02:16:26 PM
That's right, but you can't possible expect the most faithful version. I mean, the most faithful version to lord of the rings were maybe 4-6 films. But that wouldn't be the best cinema experience. I just wanted to express the fact that there wouldn't be a very true anime version of berserk, i think it is impossible. But it can be very true to the anime with a scope of own development. It just was important to me, because i had the feeling there are many that hope for the most true anime version.

If it's mostly 3d animation and motion capture it might be possible to stay true all the way. It's faster to produce episodes and with Berserk being so epic it's not a bad choice. I mostly enjoy 2d anime but the footage from the commercial looks pretty good and very 2d'ish so who knows. I know im way too optimistic
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 29, 2010, 02:38:25 PM
I can understand that. Like I said, my thoughts were very selfish. Saying that, if the new animation does happen, I'm going to watch it/buy it, and probably like it. Whether it's good or bad I'll hold no bitterness against it. I'm just saying I am very content with the franchise right now.  

It's not so much that I don't want new fans or trolling, its just that I think my personal opinion will change (not for the worse) when Berserk can't be small enough to be my own little thing.

But of course, like I said my fears are sort of a 'worse case scenario', and theres a damn good chance that they won't be that bad. Like Aaz said, Berserk will always be Berserk.

I can kind of understand your feelings here.  I've gone through this with a lot of bands and whatever, where they become popular.  At first it left a bad taste in my mouth, like it wasn't the same that more people were experiencing something I enjoyed.  Unfortunately fame can ruin a franchise, see Bleach, Naruto, Inuyasha, who are doomed to be milked into 1000's of episodes, with no coherent story in mind. 

Berserk is a different story though.  It's creator is so heartfelt about the story, I don't think anything will change the course of it's authenticity.  An anime, regardless of how popular it is won't change that, or what the story means to me.  Eventually I came to the conclusion that I will like what I like, simply because I like it. 

I will disregard it's popularity, if it's got millions of fans, cool!  What the hell is this? That's cool too! It's a much healthier frame of mind.  Don't worry, I can understand your concern but I don't think there's any need to worry.  If anything, an anime will ensure that we get to see the Manga through to it's completion.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 29, 2010, 03:05:03 PM
The Berserk_Project twitter had several new posts this morning, mostly about the next commercial's airing schedule. Nothing too interesting, but look for the next commercial to show up on the net anytime now.

They also posted a poster promoting the "new animation project" : http://twitpic.com/2t2381 Again, no new information. Same as the slipcover.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 29, 2010, 03:10:15 PM
What I fear, with this new animation is that that book will soon be too big to just be able to carry around in my back pocket. I honestly think Berserk is in a great balance right now, and I'm not sure what the new animation will do to it. Worse case scenario that everyone and their dog now "loves" Berserk. I'm afraid that this will make Berserk a little bit less special, and that who ever is involved with the new animation just might not treat it with the same respect that a lot of us do now. The last thing I want to see is something like GoodSmileComany making a Casca figma, or Megahouse starting to produce PVC Berserk figures. I think half the reason I like Berserk is because it's that great story that few people know about.  
Like other people who have replied to you, they can relate this problem with a music group or artist, myself included. I'm all about underground hip-hop and such, and what I used to fear was the "MTV" effect (when an underground artist goes mainstream, radio, tv, etc..), when one of my favorite artists went on MTV I thought
"Oh no.. why did he sell out :sad: "
after a week, people all over my school started listening to him, and i hated it, it no longer felt special, like sitting at your desk, and someone saying
"Hey you listen to Slug too? :guts: "  
it felt unique, I'm sure its like running into a person with a brand on his neck on the streets.
"You got a brand on your neck?! Me too!" *high five*
It wouldn't be unique if everybody had a brand now would it.

I had a change of heart after I watched one of Slug's interviews. He said that he remains grateful to his core fan base who supported him since the beginning, and he said
"I'm and artist, what artist wouldn't want his work to be seen by all"

so im sure Miura deserves and wants to have his 'art' seen just like any other artist would, not just kept in cave where only a few know it exists.
I'm sure when you were in kindergarten and you made something in arts & crafts, you were excited to show it to everyone in the world. (same concept)
since then I have learned to be supportive of unknown artist's success as long as they don't change their formula (Kanye West I'm looking at you :puck: ).

So as long as Miura stays true to himself, and not be swayed by the influence of others, I'm sure we wont have to worry about Berserk getting corrupted by the mainstream attention.

grr this still seems sloppy, oh well. ZzzzZz
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Henry Spencer on September 29, 2010, 03:32:36 PM
Wow. Just seen this now, very happy indeed. The main reason for my happiness is, of course, because that means more Hirasawa goodness for us. :ubik:

Hopefully this series will remain more focused, less cuts and far better animation quality. I'm especially looking forward to seeing certain favourite characters turning up (Silat, Mozgus, Rakshas, Azan, Ganishka you get the idea and a very certain character that should have been included the first time around :SK: [Puck too])

I sincerely hope Miura maintains creative control throughout the production and ensures the quality, the guy is going to be busy (probably has been already working on it).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Kyoke on September 29, 2010, 03:51:12 PM
So are you guys ready for the influx of people who used to visit here and haven't done so in years? *points at self*  :schnoz:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 29, 2010, 04:00:34 PM
so im sure Miura deserves and wants to have his 'art' seen just like any other artist would, not just kept in cave where only a few know it exists.
I'm sure when you were in kindergarten and you made something in arts & crafts, you were excited to show it to everyone in the world. (same concept)
since then I have learned to be supportive of unknown artist's success as long as they don't change their formula (Kanye West I'm looking at you :puck: ).

So as long as Miura stays true to himself, and not be swayed by the influence of others, I'm sure we wont have to worry about Berserk getting corrupted by the mainstream attention.

Good Point! You've just given me a fantastic idea.  Wait for it...Berserk Macaroni art.  : D

Thanks for keeping everyone updated, Walter! That poster art looks really cool in higher resolution.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Henry Spencer on September 29, 2010, 04:31:23 PM
Michael Bell as Guts. :guts:
He's my favourite interpretation of the character yet. Sarcastic, cynical tone of voice that I often imagine what Guts should sound like, when reading the manga (I do like the Japanese voice actor for Guts too, but as that isn't my mother tongue, I can only think of Bell's voice when reading Guts' lines).

Somebody else mentioned the narrator/Void from the original anime's English dub, he was indeed the best part of the that particular dub.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 29, 2010, 05:31:40 PM
So are you guys ready for the influx of people who used to visit here and haven't done so in years? *points at self*  :schnoz:
Yeah... it's been an enlightening experience for me about most members' priorities when it comes to Berserk.

SK attacks Femto, we see the Berserk world from outer space. Who cares!
SKnet lands an interview with Miura? Meehhhhh.
But, SEAZON 2!?? :schnoz: :rakshas: :isidro: :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Kyoke on September 29, 2010, 05:45:56 PM
Yeah... it's been an enlightening experience for me about most members' priorities when it comes to Berserk.

SK attacks Femto, we see the Berserk world from outer space. Who cares!
SKnet lands an interview with Miura? Meehhhhh.
But, SEAZON 2!?? :schnoz: :rakshas: :isidro: :???:

Now don't be like that Wally... I've been following the manga a bit slower than darkhorse has been pumping them out, but I still follow it. I just kinda stopped visiting the community... It's not like it was plastered all over the internet when you guys landed that interview with Miura... :p

But the fact that the video and the news don't really give anything and this is the best fan site for Berserk I have ever known made me want to come back and see what you guys were saying about it... I actually read the whole thread and lurked a bit before I decided to try to remember my password and log in.

But cheers and kudos to you guys. It makes me happy to know the site is still around and you guys got that interview! ^_^

and just to remember old times... *drinks sake* lol
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 29, 2010, 05:51:29 PM
I second that! And the fact that it won't be like the manga is clear to me. You would need a very high budget to realize a very true to the manga anime version, lots of time and talent. So why don't script the story in to another direction and i think they will manage something likeable. But a interpretation of your beloved story is everytime a very interesting thing. So any approach on the berserk story is interesting to me.

Personally I'd want them to do it the hard way rather than to deviate from the manga's storyline.

They also posted a poster promoting the "new animation project" : http://twitpic.com/2t2381 Again, no new information. Same as the slipcover.

Haha man, they've really just tacked it on the volume 35 promotional poster. Cutting corners I guess. Same with the TV commercials?

I'm sure we wont have to worry about Berserk getting corrupted by the mainstream attention.

Berserk's sold over 24 million volumes in Japan only. It's not exactly underground.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 29, 2010, 05:56:36 PM
Reminds me, in the Twitter post regarding that poster, the update reads as follows: "少し光って見づらいですが、書店さんに貼られるB2ポスターです!!ついに始まった!! "

Translating (roughly) to: "It is hard to see a little bit shiny to be posted on the bookstore's B2 poster! ! Finally started! !"

So, the anime project has finally started, guys!   :carcus: He could be referring to the volume sale though... but that would be weird, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BerserkMJM on September 29, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
This thread toys with me.

Grr.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 29, 2010, 08:06:26 PM
Haha man, they've really just tacked it on the volume 35 promotional poster. Cutting corners I guess. Same with the TV commercials?

Berserk's sold over 24 million volumes in Japan only. It's not exactly underground.

Do you know how many the US has sold by comparison? I see Berserk on manga shelves only occasionally.  Usually it's XxFruityholic Vampire lovexX stuff.

Yeah... it's been an enlightening experience for me about most members' priorities when it comes to Berserk.

SK attacks Femto, we see the Berserk world from outer space. Who cares!
SKnet lands an interview with Miura? Meehhhhh.
But, SEAZON 2!?? :schnoz: :rakshas: :isidro: :???:

Hah, well cut them some slack.  Reading is physically and mentally grueling.  It entails reaching out, turning the page, and using your eyes and brain to decipher the code on the page.  With an anime, one is free to enter a semi-vegetable state.  Things like subtle story details get in the way of the blood and sex!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 29, 2010, 08:11:01 PM
So, if this 2nd video doesn't show up soon, I'm going to pick up one of my statues and throw it across the room...

...no I'm joking.  But seriously!  I NEED CM2!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 29, 2010, 08:11:30 PM
Do you know how many the US has sold by comparison? I see Berserk on manga shelves only occasionally.

See this thread: http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12043.0 (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12043.0)

So, if this 2nd video doesn't show up soon, I'm going to pick up one of my statues and throw it across the room...

...no I'm joking.  But seriously!  I NEED CM2!!!

It'll show up soon enough, just be patient. That being said I'm not expecting any new information from it. They'll probably string it out until the end.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 29, 2010, 08:50:41 PM
It'll show up soon enough, just be patient. That being said I'm not expecting any new information from it. They'll probably string it out until the end.

Same here, I'm expecting the substance of it to be about the same (would be nice if they added something definitive, but of course not). The only thing I'll really be looking for is more scenes corresponding to those leaked screen shots.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jaze1618 on September 29, 2010, 09:53:18 PM
The only thing I'll really be looking for is more scenes corresponding to those leaked screen shots.

Ditto
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 29, 2010, 09:56:02 PM
It's likely all that's going to change between the two clips anyway: which scenes are displayed.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 29, 2010, 11:57:53 PM
http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html

the CM1 is up on the official page!!! woohoo!  better quality =).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 12:01:24 AM
http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html

the CM1 is up on the official page!!! woohoo!  better quality =).

That's a start. I was hoping they would be different online somehow. Which makes me wonder, are these commercials being shown after any water shed in Japan? Because if not, we might not see Guts cutting those soldiers to pieces from the leaked images.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on September 30, 2010, 12:16:09 AM
Shoot, that actually looks good!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 30, 2010, 12:28:41 AM
New Tweets from Berserk_Project (http://twitter.com/berserk_project):

TVCMのAパターンを、ただ今、「ベルセルク」公式サイトにアップいたしました。TVCMの放送地域ではなかった皆様、すいませんでした。よろしくお願いします。 http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/
Quote from: Google Translate
TVCM the A pattern now , " Berserk " We updated the website. TVCM in the area broadcasting of Everyone Not , I'm sorry . Thank you . http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/
Quote from: babelfish
At present, we raised a pattern of TVCM, in “the [beruseruku]” official sight. Everyone who is not the broadcast area of TVCM, it did not inhale. We ask may. http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/

Okay, that seems to obviously be referring to CM1 being uploaded to the website, this one's more intriguing:

そして、本日Bパターンを放送します。どのキャラが出てくるかはお楽しみにして下さい。詳しい放送時間は、夕方以降にお知らせします。
Quote from: Google Translate
Then today B broadcasts a pattern . would come out Character Which , please stay tuned. broadcast time More will be announced later in the evening.
Quote from: babelfish
And, this day B pattern is broadcast. Some [kiyara] comes out, please enjoy. We inform detailed air time, after the evening.

Or not. Stay tuned. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on September 30, 2010, 12:37:49 AM
そして、本日Bパターンを放送します。どのキャラが出てくるかはお楽しみにして下さい。詳しい放送時間は、夕方以降にお知らせします。

"Also, we are airing (commercial) Pattern B today. Please look forward to finding out which character(s) will make an appearance. Detailed broadcast time will be announced later in the evening."

But yeah, you guys got the gist already. :) Exciting times here in Berserk-land.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 12:39:35 AM
So my water shed theory could...well...hold water?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 30, 2010, 12:43:22 AM
"Also, we are airing (commercial) Pattern B today. Please look forward to finding out which character(s) will make an appearance. Detailed broadcast time will be announced later in the evening."

But yeah, you guys got the gist already. :) Exciting times here in Berserk-land.

Thank you Graywords, I like your translation much better than just getting the gist of it. Exciting times indeed, I hope we'll get that specific airtime, if not the video itself, tonight.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on September 30, 2010, 12:57:23 AM
Thank you Graywords, I like your translation much better than just getting the gist of it. Exciting times indeed, I hope we'll get that specific airtime, if not the video itself, tonight.

Anytime bud!

Also, information for all, it is about 11am 9/30 in Japan right now.  :judo:  So we have probably have a 6+ hr wait...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2010, 01:36:12 AM
Thanks so much for the translation help Graywords. Trying to decipher these Google-translated posts has led me to insanity over the past few days. I'm confused though, I thought they were airing a new commercial each night at midnight, meaning they should be airing commercial 3 next.

Quote
CMは全部で5種類です。1種類目は28日深夜と29日深夜。2種類目は30日深夜。3種類目は1日深夜。4種類目は2日深夜と3日深夜に放送。いずれも15秒でそれぞれテレビ放送終了後に、公式サイトにアップします。5種類目はウェブ限定で5日から公開いたします。
Quote from: Google's translation
CM is a total of five. The first one kind of night at midnight, 28 and 29. Second type is 30 midnight. The third type 1 Wednesday night. The four first broadcast on Wednesday night and two days late. TV after 15 seconds, respectively, both up the official site. The first five will be released from only 05 in the web.
Admittedly, it's hard to make much of that, but it seems to me to be saying 28, 29, 30 all at midnight. I guess it comes down to does "midnight on the 30th" mean the night of 29/30 or 30/1? This couldn't possibly be more confusing to me :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on September 30, 2010, 09:27:26 AM
Admittedly, it's hard to make much of that, but it seems to me to be saying 28, 29, 30 all at midnight. I guess it comes down to does "midnight on the 30th" mean the night of 29/30 or 30/1? This couldn't possibly be more confusing to me :???:

I can see where you might get confused. It turns out that 深夜 in this case means "late at night", not "midnight". So all the commercials should technically be coming out late-night on the dates provided.

It looks like the first and fourth commercials each air two nights in a row (28th and 29th, 2nd and 3rd, respectively), and the rest are one night each (30th and 1st). All seem to be 15 secs long. Commercial 5 is Website-only limited release.

I'm so going to be at work when these air. :(
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 09:41:48 AM
So in theory the latest we're likely to see todays commercial is 4pm GMT (provided it's posted up online right away by someone)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 30, 2010, 10:21:49 AM
We have Twitter updates, in order of their appearance. Never translated a TV schedule before, so I might need a hand with the finer details.

Quote
本日のCMの放送予定です。フジテレビは、24:35~25:35「日本CMタレント専門学校」の番組内で1本。「グチリ場」の番組内で1本。「グチリ場」と「24シーズン7」の間で1本。「24シーズン7」の番組内で1本。計4本になります。

Here are the plans for today's CM broadcast. Fuji TV, one during 24:35 - 25:35 "Japan's Commercial Talent Academy". One during "Guchiriba" (not sure what this program is. A Place to Complain?) . One between "Guchiriba" and "24 Season 7". And one during "24 Season 7". This makes a total of four.


Not sure if that is meant to be the 24-hour clock. Last time I checked, there wasn't a 25:00. Unless Japan needs that extra hour =P

Quote
読売テレビは、24:38~25:08「浜ちゃんが!」の番組内で1本。「浜ちゃんが!」と「ハッピーMusic」の間で1本。「ハッピーMusic」の番組内で1本。ハッピーMusic」と「華丸大吉20周年記念 お祝い頂戴ツアーSP 」の間で1本。「華丸大吉~」の番組内で1本。計5本です about 1 hour ago via web

As for Yomiuri TV, one during 24:38~25:08, "Hama-chan!". One between "Hama-chan!" and "Happy Music". One during "Happy Music". One between "Happy Music" and "Yoshi Hiroshi 20th Anniversary Commemoration Special" (I think...? Had to use Google for this and it didn't help). One during "Yoshi Hiroshi 20th Anniversary Commemoration Special". A total of 5.

Lotsa opportunities for people to catch it, then!
 
Quote
東海テレビは、「わんだほ」と「お天気レーダー」の間に1本。「たかじん胸いっぱい」の番組内で3本。計4本の予定です。 about 1 hour ago via web

Tokai TV, one during "Wandaho" and "Weather Radar". And three during "Takajin's....... Full Chest?" Four total.

Sorry, but you need to see the website for Wandaho: http://tokai-tv.com/wandaho/ And Takajin's show appears to be about breasts? Not sure. Will investigate further :griffnotevil:

Quote
本日のCMは、Bバージョンで、昨日までのものと違います。楽しみにして下さい。ベルセルク公式サイトでは、明日の午前中にアップ予定です。アップしましたらご報告します。http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/     about 1 hour ago  via web

The CM today is going to be different from yesterdays version. Please look forward to it. As for Berserk's official website, it'll be up tomorrow morning. Once it's uploaded, it'll be reported.

I think they're talking about the CM being added to the website here, followed by a Twitter announcement for it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 10:33:48 AM
25:00 is to Japan what 0:00 is to us.

EDIT: Sorry, I got that completely mixed up, you're right it's 24:00. Where the hell did 25:00 come from?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2010, 11:49:41 AM
are these commercials being shown after any water shed in Japan?

Yep.

Anyway, let's try to avoid relying on guesswork and automatic translation tools as much as possible to prevent misunderstandings.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 12:11:21 PM
Sorry uncle Aaz   :schnoz:, as you can probably tell some of us are clutching at straws, hitting the refresh button, trying to get our next fix of anime adrenaline.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dembol on September 30, 2010, 12:52:57 PM
I think 25 "hour" is just their weird way of writing 1 AM. I think I saw it somewhere marked like that.

The Berserk twitter is also suprised that it has so many foreign followers.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2010, 02:07:50 PM
The Berserk twitter is also suprised that it has so many foreign followers.

Pfff, those ignorant executives. They have no idea. Someone with a Twitter account should challenge them to the Quiz (http://skullknight.net/berserkquiz/). :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 02:12:55 PM
Pfff, those ignorant executives. They have no idea.

Which would explain their lack of elaboration on this 'anime project' too.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2010, 02:19:16 PM
Which would explain their lack of elaboration on this 'anime project' too.

I'm not sure it makes a difference; I think it's just a poorly executed scheme to tease the fans and build up interest before the big announcement, bundled together with the advertisement for volume 35 in order to get as much as possible out of it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 30, 2010, 02:25:42 PM
After watching the first commercial a bazillion times.. I decided to believe that their IS a full fledged Anime project in the works, Intro song and all!
do you think we will have the old theme song back? I know it always put a smile on my face :guts:

hear it and try to resist smiling :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2010, 02:53:42 PM
do you think we will have the old theme song back? I know it always put a smile on my face :guts:

Tell Me Why by Penpals? Nah.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on September 30, 2010, 03:04:58 PM
I always liked to see an opening theme with Hirasawa music. Think the PS2 opening with "Sign." Brilliant.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 03:10:29 PM
I always liked to see an opening theme with Hirasawa music. Think the PS2 opening with "Sign." Brilliant.

Most animes take this as an opportunity to get licensed music from a big or upcoming band to help sell their single and gain popularity for the anime. Hopefully, this time the anime will, like you say, skip that part and go straight to Hirasawa due to being respected enough to not need it. It worked with Yoko Kanno and GITS. I'd certainly be happy to hear Sign 2 as a closing theme.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on September 30, 2010, 03:50:50 PM
CM2 is on Nicovideo:

Goto http://mmcafe.com/nico.html and paste in http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12283247

Alternately, http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12283247.

Basically.....

(http://i25.tinypic.com/15oi0xk.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BERSERK_KIT on September 30, 2010, 03:52:32 PM
ZODD!!! :zodd:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 30, 2010, 03:56:35 PM


Basically.....
 :zodd:

That's the first thing that came to my mind.

Very cool to see, he was really putting the pain onto those hawks!  :ubik:

Does anyone else find it really strange that those images posted a year ago actually turned into something?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 30, 2010, 03:58:19 PM
I've always felt that those images were going pop up again :void:
more importantly, when is Casca's commercial coming up?! :casca:
(http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4813/163152-berserk2_super.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on September 30, 2010, 03:59:51 PM
Kinda ...but not really. The images always did seem a little TOO good and random to just be fan made but hey...we had nothing to go with. Also haven't been able to zee Zodd yet cuss video wont load. Does it look good animated because the still sits iffy with me
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 04:00:05 PM
I did always think they were a bit too polished to be just an elaborate shop job. So, I guess this means we'll be seeing Casca and Puck soon then.

I find it a bit strange they've opted for an out of focus edge on this vid though. I wonder if it's meant to hide something or just give the impression of a dark setting?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on September 30, 2010, 04:03:32 PM
Maybe these were originally meant to commemorate the 20th anniversary?

Regardless of their origins or intentions, these are friggin cool!

Bring on the chestnut and the woman-child!  :puck: :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on September 30, 2010, 04:04:56 PM
Ok so ive seen Zodd commercial now and i don't know. It looks good i guess, but i would have been more happy with really well animated/detailed artwork. The 3D is going to be good though for many of the fluid movements such as sword swings. I don't like how the soldiers were jsut kinda thrown to the side...wheres the gore of their bodies ripping off at the torso? I know it was just a short clip, ill reserve judgement untill i see more.

I did really enjoy the first clip and it looks like they are using 3D for monsters and armour/weapons. I hope Mozgus stay drawn at least until his transformation. Also i hope Rosine stays drawn...the thought of her 3D just its just, it isn't right!  :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 30, 2010, 04:11:42 PM
Pretty much exactly what I expected, right down to it being Zodd. The CG looked a little... unpolished, though.

I've always felt that those images were going pop up again :void:
more importantly, when is Casca's commercial coming up?! :casca:
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4813/163152-berserk2_super.jpg

Yeah, that'll be great, just stare at that image and play that annoying song and you've already got it. =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 04:12:25 PM
Maybe these were originally meant to commemorate the 20th anniversary?


That's the impression I'm getting too. They must have just missed the deadline and decided to move it up to the next available slot. Thinking how the commercials would have been better with the words "20 years of Berserk" just seems more fitting.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 30, 2010, 04:13:28 PM
That's the impression I'm getting too. They must have just missed the deadline and decided to move it up to the next available slot. Thinking how the commercials would have been better with the words "20 years of Berserk" just seems more fitting.

Unless it really is just old test footage they're basically recycling.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 04:15:27 PM
Unless it really is just old test footage they're basically recycling.

Yeah, but you have to wonder what initiated the test footage to begin with? Did Miura go to them with the aid of making a whole new anime or some short clips to celebrate the anniversary? It seems unlikely he went to them saying "Hey guys, can we do five short films for the 35th volume?"
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2010, 04:20:18 PM
I dunno guys I thought this was extremely impressive. It looked like much higher production quality than the previous CM. The number of frames in the animation alone was just amazing. I loved it  :zodd:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 30, 2010, 04:23:39 PM
youtube version of CM2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4m9sDeor3o

ZOOODDDDDD :zodd:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 30, 2010, 04:25:33 PM
Damn, not bad. Zodd looked way better in this 15 sec. commercial than in the 1997 animated series. I didn't think the CG looked that bad, either. It looked just as good as the CG animation in Stand Alone Complex, and those who have watched that show can attest to how good quality CG and hand drawn animation can look together when done correctly.

The music really didn't fit this time around, though.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 30, 2010, 04:27:31 PM
I'm with Rhombaad and Walter.  I'm impressed with that Zodd scene.  It's SUPER fluid and dynamic.  OH PLEASE LET THIS BE A FULL SERIES!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 30, 2010, 04:31:32 PM
I also think it looks good, but I think it needs slow motion shots to compliment the manga  :zodd: (seeing soldiers being slashed to bits in slow-mo)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on September 30, 2010, 04:32:34 PM
The CG was fantastic. I gotta say, I'm really digging this.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on September 30, 2010, 04:37:16 PM
I can't say i like the CG in the end where zodd flies up. At a certain moment they cut off the amount of detail they had before and you can see a clumsy cg figure...but aside that. it is AMAZING. I mean the angle, how everything is directed...lovely...can't make it unseen. omg... when studio 4°C worked on this since 2 years and now releases a shit load of episode...i would be dying in happiness (ok that was too much, i don't think they did this)

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 30, 2010, 04:42:39 PM
I can't say i like the CG in the end where zodd flies up. At a certain moment they cut off the amount of detail they had before and you can see a clumsy cg figure...but aside that. it is AMAZING. I mean the angle, how everything is directed...lovely...can't make it unseen. omg... when studio 4°C worked on this since 2 years and now releases a shit load of episode...i would be dying in happiness (ok that was too much, i don't think they did this)

Keep in mind that if an anime series is eventually released, there's no guarantee it will look this way.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Xem on September 30, 2010, 04:50:36 PM
Loved the animation but it would've been nice with different music. I'm starting to get fall into the "this is all being recycled" mindset now.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on September 30, 2010, 04:54:59 PM
Actually me too, and after recently deciding to not believe that this is test material :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 30, 2010, 05:00:58 PM
Actually me too, and after recently deciding to not believe that this is test material :sad:

Even if it is test material, it doesn't mean that there isn't a new animation coming. It just means this is footage that's being recycled for the commercials in order to promote a new series or OVA. We don't have a definite answer either way at this point.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2010, 05:05:17 PM
It just means this is footage that's being recycled for the commercials in order to promote a new series or OVA.
To be clear, right now all it's promoting is Volume 35.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Konketsuji on September 30, 2010, 05:22:04 PM
Damn it, the second clip looks awful. I hate CG. WHY??! It's not some Appleseed, it has to be gorgeous! :azan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 30, 2010, 05:40:20 PM
To be clear, right now all it's promoting is Volume 35.

True. I suppose until we know more that's all we can attribute these clips to mean.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on September 30, 2010, 05:45:14 PM
youtube version of CM2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4m9sDeor3o

ZOOODDDDDD :zodd:
Goddaaammnnnnn ... that looks awesome!!! Especially the part where he's swapping the soldiers like flies. Once he's mid-air, he flies off a little weird-like, but I'm sure it's still better than the way he flew out in the first series.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Johnstantine on September 30, 2010, 05:57:15 PM
I'm going to say I'm not a fan of the CG.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jaze1618 on September 30, 2010, 06:16:57 PM
I don't like how the soldiers were jsut kinda thrown to the side...wheres the gore of their bodies ripping off at the torso? I know it was just a short clip, ill reserve judgement untill i see more.


THIS! If they are going to do another series, I really want them to do more with the gore than just a bunch of spraying blood. That whole manga scene with Zodd from beginning to end, was so impactful imo because of the level of detail in the gore. Even the shot of all the dead soldiers and severed heads up to the page right before Guts bumps into Zodd, so impactful.

Oh My God please do OVA's and not a weekly show  :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rus on September 30, 2010, 06:28:05 PM
Oh My God please do OVA's and not a weekly show  :judo:

Yeah i was thinking about that. If they do a weekly show it's going to be censored (some of the stuff that happened were a bit extreme  :ganishka: )
From the trailers that we got (and considering they are going to use them) it seems they going to do Berserk from the beginning all over again.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 30, 2010, 06:40:14 PM
I kinda liked this, Zodd's eyes were pretty sinister. But I agree with Deci, I think the music wasn't very fitting.

Actually, the same song and more leaked 2008 footage. At this point I'm so certain the "Anime Project" are the commercials that I'm already hoping they realize the commotion this is gonna bring and decide to make a new series after all. :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Cyrus Jong on September 30, 2010, 07:13:37 PM
Eh, I got mixed feelings on this commercial. On one hand, Zodd looks like he stepped right out of a nightmare, as he damn well should, especially during his first appearance. On the other...I'm with the anti-CG crowd on this one, it's painfully obvious.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 30, 2010, 07:17:54 PM
Maybe I'm just not artsy smartsy enough to 'get' good vs bad when it comes to art and animations, but it looks really good to me.

Edit: I'm with everyone else with the music. I can't even listen to it anymore, it's just awful.  :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2010, 07:42:13 PM
Maybe I'm just not artsy smartsy enough to 'get' good vs bad when it comes to art and animations, but it looks really good to me.
I'm also interested in reading why you guys think it looks like shit. I showed it to one of my friends that works in an art department creating assets for video games, and he said it looked "solid." I asked him if he could see what the complaints were based on.

His verbatim response: "Nothing really jumped out at me as being horrible, animation wise that is. Looks solid. Maybe they're upset that the 3d models still look too 3d and not 2d enough? Tell them to make something better ;)"
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 30, 2010, 07:45:26 PM
I'm also interested in reading why you guys think it looks like shit. I showed it to one of my friends that works in an art department creating assets for video games, and he said it looked "solid." I asked him if he could see what the complaints were based on.

It looks pretty legit to me.  I loved CM2.  I'm not opposed to CG, either.  I think it's more of a style preference, like the movements are too smooth or something.  I dunno, really.  

Edit: I'm with everyone else with the music. I can't even listen to it anymore, it's just awful.  :judo:

Solution: Mute.  Play Susumu Hirasawa.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on September 30, 2010, 07:51:21 PM
We have Twitter updates, in order of their appearance. Never translated a TV schedule before, so I might need a hand with the finer details.

Here are the plans for today's CM broadcast. Fuji TV, one during 24:35 - 25:35 "Japan's Commercial Talent Academy". One during "Guchiriba" (not sure what this program is. A Place to Complain?) . One between "Guchiriba" and "24 Season 7". And one during "24 Season 7". This makes a total of four.


Not sure if that is meant to be the 24-hour clock. Last time I checked, there wasn't a 25:00. Unless Japan needs that extra hour =P

As for Yomiuri TV, one during 24:38~25:08, "Hama-chan!". One between "Hama-chan!" and "Happy Music". One during "Happy Music". One between "Happy Music" and "Yoshi Hiroshi 20th Anniversary Commemoration Special" (I think...? Had to use Google for this and it didn't help). One during "Yoshi Hiroshi 20th Anniversary Commemoration Special". A total of 5.

Actually... on late-night Japanese TV schedules, they often refer to times from 24:00~28:00 and later, to refer to 12:00am-4:00am. While I was over there I watched an anime that ran from 25:00~25:30, and it always killed me the following day. ;p

It seems kind of silly to me, although I can guess what they're trying for: something airs at 02:00 early Wednesday, but they could also technically say it airs at 26:00 on Tuesday!

*shrugs*

Back to the subject at hand... I'm going to just withhold judgment completely on the commercials for the time being. No matter what they actually end up being, it's having the desired effect; creating buzz in the community!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 30, 2010, 07:54:18 PM
Solution: Mute.  Play Susumu Hirasawa.

I think that's the problem with the music they picked, it just lacks the intensity the scenes would require. Funny enough, I was listening to a Sinatra song, with the second video on mute, and it felt like it flowed better.  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on September 30, 2010, 07:56:37 PM
I would have to agree that this was all suppose to be for the 20th anniversary and it slipped or when making it they realized that perhaps this can be more than just a promotion for the anniversary, so they held it back till they had done more work on the project and they were confident enough to say that this will be an anime of sorts . It just seems like a lot of work for a one week promotion of Vol. 35.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 30, 2010, 08:05:20 PM
I think that's the problem with the music they picked, it just lacks the intensity the scenes would require. Funny enough, I was listening to a Sinatra song, with the second video on mute, and it felt like it flowed better.  :troll:

Haha, that's great.  I think the music worked well for the first clip.  In fact I loved it with griffith.  But with Zodd I just want to hear a sinister ass depressing tone.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 30, 2010, 08:13:38 PM
Haha, that's great.  I think the music worked well for the first clip.  In fact I loved it with griffith.  But with Zodd I just want to hear a sinister ass depressing tone.

My thoughts exactly. It worked really well on CM1, but CM2 should have had darker music. Oh well, at least we know what to expect for the next several commercials. Is it just me or did the art look better in CM2 than the still from 2008 that was leaked a while back?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 08:14:04 PM
Haha, that's great.  I think the music worked well for the first clip.  In fact I loved it with griffith.  But with Zodd I just want to hear a sinister ass depressing tone.

After the next clip I'll probably just mute them. I loved it at first, but it starts to grate after a while.

My thoughts exactly. It worked really well on CM1, but CM2 should have had darker music. Oh well, at least we know what to expect for the next several commercials. Is it just me or did the art look better in CM2 than the still from 2008 that was leaked a while back?

I think the shading has come on a bit and the colours seems a little darker, which makes it look less like CG, but then that could be the recording.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 30, 2010, 08:53:28 PM
I think the shading has come on a bit and the colours seems a little darker, which makes it look less like CG, but then that could be the recording.

I think the dark CG is throwing people off a bit.  A lot of the details in the gore and blood/hair on Zodd are lost in the shadows.  It's really hard to gauge what the final product will look like.  It could be totally different.  I personally like the dark blues/greens in the scene.  

We're running out of leaked screenshots, right? Except for Casca? Surely we'll get something we haven't seen in stills soon.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Xem on September 30, 2010, 08:56:10 PM
We're running out of leaked screenshots, right? Except for Casca? Surely we'll get something we haven't seen in stills soon.

Don't forget Puck! Which I'm personally looking forward to the most since we've never seen him animated. It's just too bad we won't have the appropriate sound to go with him...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on September 30, 2010, 09:02:51 PM
We're running out of leaked screenshots, right? Except for Casca? Surely we'll get something we haven't seen in stills soon.

The individual that leaked the screenshots on NeoGAF back then posted this a couple hours ago:

Quote from: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23618148&postcount=465
As I said there's some material with younger Guts and the midland army and the scene with Guts and Griffith wasn't in the trailer I have so there could be something brand new.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on September 30, 2010, 09:15:30 PM
Solution: Mute.  Play Susumu Hirasawa.

Check this out, new trailer with Susumu!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-LHe4R6nVk

Someone had to do it :slan:

Oh btw, the text in CM2 "Berserk. ___" is different than in CM1.  Can someone translate?  Thanks!


Update: Thanks for the translation Graywords, I up'ed the video again, (better quality using the flv rips from the young animal site) here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtumZixpHjk
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on September 30, 2010, 09:47:10 PM
Check this out, new trailer with Susumu!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-LHe4R6nVk

Someone had to do it :slan:

Oh btw, the text in CM2 "Berserk. ___" is different than in CM1.  Can someone translate?  Thanks!

Dude, way to pick up the ball and score.  Like fucking really.  This is some Berserk right here.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on September 30, 2010, 10:03:21 PM
Oh btw, the text in CM2 "Berserk. ___" is different than in CM1.  Can someone translate?  Thanks!

The first one says "Berserk Begins" and the second one says "Berserk Rebirth" more or less.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 10:06:59 PM
The first one says "Berserk Begins" and the second one says "Berserk Rebirth" more or less.

This is interesting and also frustrating, we keep getting curve balls to question what these shorts are relative to. Those both seem to imply that it's a retelling of the manga from the beginning. IF the next one says "Berserk Re-told" I will be ever hopeful.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on September 30, 2010, 10:12:33 PM
The first one says "Berserk Begins" and the second one says "Berserk Rebirth" more or less.

Thanks, Graywords!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on September 30, 2010, 10:18:13 PM
The first one says "Berserk Begins" and the second one says "Berserk Rebirth" more or less.

As far as I'm concerned, that settles it. It's either a full anime series 'reboot', or an evil plot specifically intended to infuriate fans. The original "Berserk Begins" text could have referred to the beginning of the advertising campaign, but "Berserk Rebirth" just doesn't make sense in any other context.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Proj2501 on September 30, 2010, 10:26:06 PM
Man, 11 pages in and we sill don't know the deal. Zodd looks pretty good. While I won't suck it's CG cock, it's done well enough for me not to get pissed off. CG does works in anime...but I think it works better in animes that have ROBOTS!

I doubt they'd re-release the OLD anime with NEW scenes. That would be HORRIBLE. I mean, if it's an anime I hope it's not the anime we've seen before 'done up'. (Think Star Wars Special Edition...now go get a barf bag) I hope it covers arcs not in the original anime.

If what we've seen serves as flashbacks to get the public up to speed with the story...that's fine.



All this for commercials makes me wanna punch babies.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on September 30, 2010, 10:38:01 PM
Man, 11 pages in and we sill don't know the deal. Zodd looks pretty good. While I won't suck it's CG cock, it's done well enough for me not to get pissed off. CG does works in anime...but I think it works better in animes that have ROBOTS!

There's still time for Berserk to have robots!

Every time I listen to Forces 1.5, I think of Guts slicing up robots and dodging lasers a la PSO...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on September 30, 2010, 11:00:18 PM
I'm probably the only one on the site who likes Forces 1.5. The CG for the commercials/to be announced series is looking good. The next two commercials are probably going to show Casca and Puck. Lets hope the final one shows Skull Knight.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on September 30, 2010, 11:17:14 PM
I'm with everyone else with the music. I can't even listen to it anymore, it's just awful.  :judo:

Yeah, it's not just inappropriate, it's grating at this point.

OOOOOOOO oooooo ooooo ooo OOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOO AAaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooAAAAAAAOAOAOAOAOAOA :mozgus:

We're running out of leaked screenshots, right? Except for Casca? Surely we'll get something we haven't seen in stills soon.

Like everything with Griffith?

I'm also interested in reading why you guys think it looks like shit. I showed it to one of my friends that works in an art department creating assets for video games, and he said it looked "solid." I asked him if he could see what the complaints were based on.

His verbatim response: "Nothing really jumped out at me as being horrible, animation wise that is. Looks solid. Maybe they're upset that the 3d models still look too 3d and not 2d enough? Tell them to make something better ;)"

I'm trying (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12099.msg190217#msg190217)! :griffnotevil: Also, KaBob, I presume? =)

Anyway, based on that closing salvo, our complaints about even the original anime are moot, but I agree with you that at least the first half of CM2 is impressive. I especially like the angles and depth employed, it really takes advantage of the visuals, plays to its strengths, and hides its weaknesses. On the other hand, after the title card, I think the opposite is true. In cinematographic terms, it's not a very complementary angle or lighting for the graphics, and so his takeoff leaves something to be desired, as it did in the original screen shot; it actually did look like a video game to me there, animation and all. That's where my critique lies, and there's plenty of room for subjective opinion there, as visual style and quality aren't measured strictly in graphical technicalities. As with anything, one can still just plain not like the look of it. So, if it's technically "solid" overall, I think the first half makes it look better than solid, and the second half makes it look worse.

The first one says "Berserk Begins" and the second one says "Berserk Rebirth" more or less.
As far as I'm concerned, that settles it. It's either a full anime series 'reboot', or an evil plot specifically intended to infuriate fans.

Yeah, that's pretty damn suggestive on its own, let alone taken together with everything else we know.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on October 01, 2010, 12:11:14 AM
Yeah, it's not just inappropriate, it's grating at this point.

OOOOOOOO oooooo ooooo ooo OOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOO AAaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooAAAAAAAOAOAOAOAOAOA :mozgus:


Actually what would bother me most with this, if that becomes part of the introduction.

Quote
*Berserk logo fades in*
OOOOOOOO oooooo ooooo ooo OOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOO AAaaaaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooAAAAAAAOAOAOAOAOAOA
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 12:59:44 AM
I doubt they'd re-release the OLD anime with NEW scenes. That would be HORRIBLE. I mean, if it's an anime I hope it's not the anime we've seen before 'done up'. (Think Star Wars Special Edition...now go get a barf bag)
Actually what would bother me most with this, if that becomes part of the introduction.

We don't need to worry about every conceivable, convoluted worst-case scenario. Let's limit it to whether this is for real or not. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on October 01, 2010, 01:07:02 AM
Check this out, new trailer with Susumu!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-LHe4R6nVk

Someone had to do it :slan:

Oh btw, the text in CM2 "Berserk. ___" is different than in CM1.  Can someone translate?  Thanks!

Thank you sir! Good job.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 02:34:48 AM
CM 02 official video is up:

http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on October 01, 2010, 02:44:18 AM
Thank you sir! Good job.

Dude, way to pick up the ball and score.  Like fucking really.  This is some Berserk right here.

Ahahaha, fa sho!!! :guts:  Actually, I just ripped the Young Animal FLVs from their website (since CM2 went up), and re-uploaded the Susumu Hirasawa version in higher quality =P.  Here ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtumZixpHjk
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on October 01, 2010, 04:14:01 AM
I remember over a year ago the first screenshots were posted on forums and everyone collectively went "HOLY SHIT THAT'S SO AWESOME...oh wait turns out it's nothing...darn..."

BUT NOW. HOLY FUCK IT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING! Thank you God. So freakin awesome.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Irvine on October 01, 2010, 04:16:11 AM
Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtumZixpHjk

sounds awful. I like the song in the commercials more than this. :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 04:58:01 AM
sounds awful. I like the song in the commercials more than this. :ubik:

Your taste in music makes as much sense as your use of emoticons. :azan:

Now, that isn't to say there isn't other appropriate Hirasawa music for these trailers:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Eg-Q8UH2nY0

http://www.youtube.com/v/aJvuLi3kC4M

Thanks DirectDK, because not only did I rip your idea, but the video off your youtube account. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 01, 2010, 05:59:39 AM
Your taste in music makes as much sense as your use of emoticons. :azan:

Now, that isn't to say there isn't other appropriate Hirasawa music for these trailers:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Eg-Q8UH2nY0


Thanks DirectDK, because not only did I rip your idea, but the video off your youtube account. :ganishka:
Beherit is one of the creepiest pieces of music I've heard for a show ever. It does seem stupid to use the same song again in the commercial. We have to hear it 3 more times lol.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 07:51:51 AM
HOLY SHIT!!! :isidro:

http://www.youtube.com/v/AaNRqWbmUsI
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 01, 2010, 07:59:15 AM
 throw in a couple of animations and you got yourself a winner :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 09:09:37 AM
New tweets from berserk_project (http://twitter.com/berserk_project), basically giving air times for CM 03 and teasing its featured character. Over and out.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on October 01, 2010, 09:19:14 AM
"I bet it'll be quite difficult to guess the character for today's commercial!"

Bah. Jerks!  :serpico:

Also, the tweet before that amused me...

"I'm surprised by the number of overseas folks we have following (our account)."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 09:26:09 AM
"I'm surprised by the number of overseas folks we have following (our account)."

Yeah, that was cute. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 01, 2010, 10:05:16 AM
Has anyone tried sending them a tweet to ask them to stop screwing us around and tell us if we're getting more than these commercials?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 01, 2010, 10:50:26 AM
That just might be crazy enough to Work! :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 01, 2010, 01:54:23 PM
HOLY SHIT!!! :isidro:

I'll be honest, before I hit play you got me. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 01, 2010, 02:02:25 PM
I don't mind the CG too much in that video, a lot less than in that still picture from a year ago (the horns are still wrong though, unforgivable). Looks better in movement. I also don't mind the music at all, I don't see what the problem is with it. And I don't find a track like Beherit to be particularly more fitting either if you put aside the mental association.

Lastly, while Susumu Hirasawa did great work on the series so far, it doesn't mean no one else could do something good. And he doesn't have an obligation to work on it either, which you guys should keep in mind. There's always a possibility that he might not be involved in the new project.

At this point I'm so certain the "Anime Project" are the commercials

I don't think you should be so certain of that, man. Despite the ambiguity I believe they do have a project to unveil.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 01, 2010, 02:38:23 PM
I don't mind the CG too much in that video, a lot less than in that still picture from a year ago (the horns are still wrong though, unforgivable). Looks better in movement. I also don't mind the music at all, I don't see what the problem is with it. And I don't find a track like Beherit to be particularly more fitting either if you put aside the mental association.

Hopefully, they'll correct the horns if they ever end up producing a new animated series or OVA. Sometimes you wonder if they even reference the manga when creating character designs for anime. As for the music, while I enjoy the Hirasawa played with the new commercials, I just didn't feel like the new music fit with CM2. Maybe it's simply because I wasn't expecting them to use the same track from CM1. Oh well, at least I won't be surprised when the same vocal comes out of my speakers during CM3.

Lastly, while Susumu Hirasawa did great work on the series so far, it doesn't mean no one else could do something good. And he doesn't have an obligation to work on it either, which you guys should keep in mind. There's always a possibility that he might not be involved in the new project.

It might be a nice change of pace to hear someone else's interpretation of what the atmosphere of Berserk should sound like. If they’re going with the artist(s) behind the CM1 and CM2 background music, then it’s definitely not Hirasawa.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Henry Spencer on October 01, 2010, 02:39:22 PM
I don't have any problem with the music. It's just not Hirasawa-tier. That's the only problem I have (plus, they should vary the music, make it actually suit the scenes we are seeing). One of the main reasons why I'm excited is because we may be getting new Hirasawa music. Being a big Hirasawa fan, that's great.

I doubt Miura would allow anyone except Hirasawa to create the music, he is a passionate fan of his. I'd personally be surprised and disappointed if Hirasawa wasn't doing it, but I'd be open to someone new. Comparisons would be inevitable, but that's not to say I wouldn't want to give the person a chance.

I wish they'd hurry up already and stop teasing...ah well, two more adverts and maybe after the final one we will get word of what exactly is on the cards.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 01, 2010, 02:52:40 PM
Hopefully, they'll correct the horns if they ever end up producing a new animated series or OVA. Sometimes you wonder if they even reference the manga when creating character designs for anime.

The horns and the other inaccuracies in the other scenes. Can be forgiven in test footage, but not in the real thing.

Maybe it's simply because I wasn't expecting them to use the same track from CM1.

I told you guys they were just going to change which scenes are shown, didn't I? :iva:

(plus, they should vary the music, make it actually suit the scenes we are seeing).

Keep in mind they probably have a tight budget for it. And I doubt they have a lot of music to choose from. Maybe just that one track. All I'm hoping for at the moment is to hear more of the same track in the mysterious 5th commercial, should it be longer.

I doubt Miura would allow anyone except Hirasawa to create the music, he is a passionate fan of his.

Like I said, Hirasawa has no obligation to work on Berserk. He did most of the TV series' soundtrack, several tracks for the DC game, two tracks for the PS2 game (and Sign 2 is kind of a remix). It doesn't mean much, but it's still a downward trend. And the commercials have music from another artist. All I'm saying is people shouldn't assume he will automatically do it for sure, because if it ends up not being the case they'll be all the more disappointed.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: jackson_hurley on October 01, 2010, 03:17:03 PM
Like I said, Hirasawa has no obligation to work on Berserk. He did most of the TV series' soundtrack, several tracks for the DC game, two tracks for the PS2 game (and Sign 2 is kind of a remix). It doesn't mean much, but it's still a downward trend. And the commercials have music from another artist. All I'm saying is people shouldn't assume he will automatically do it for sure, because if it ends up not being the case they'll be all the more disappointed.

My thoughts exactly from the beginning music wise..
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 01, 2010, 03:41:46 PM
I told you guys they were just going to change which scenes are shown, didn't I? :iva:

I'm still holding out hope you'll be wrong one of these days. :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 01, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
I'm still holding out hope you'll be wrong one of these days.

Oh, it happens. I just don't go out of my way to remind people about it. :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 01, 2010, 03:50:55 PM
I'm still holding out hope you'll be wrong one of these days. :iva:
im sure he would be a great weatherman  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 01, 2010, 03:56:40 PM
Oh, it happens. I just don't go out of my way to remind people about it. :iva:

Haha, nor should you.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on October 01, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
My thoughts exactly from the beginning music wise..
To the music. I can't do anything with it. I am fine with it, but i don't think it is the best fitting berserk music or the best thing that can happen to berserk. I think in Paprika Hirasawas music was the only weak point. It's too poppy electronica. I don't know. We'll see, i hope they find a good one. Just get Konno or get a newcomer with a new musical approach to berserk.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Danat on October 01, 2010, 04:20:11 PM
cm3
http://mmcafe.com/nico.html (http://mmcafe.com/nico.html)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12293199  (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12293199)

or http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12293199 (http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12293199)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on October 01, 2010, 04:27:30 PM
Holy shit!  :casca: The more cm's i watch the more i get excited...i'm totally pumped. happiness :)... i thought everything was a overlighted lotr effect but the scene with Casca and the details of the tree : superb :)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 01, 2010, 04:28:15 PM
Thanks for the keen eyes, Danat!  :isidro:

Man, that Beherit reveal was so incredibly stylized and overdramatic... I can't imagine that was cut from some longer scene. It looked like it came from some old PC game, where you walk into a room and it suddenly plays a clip.

The Casca clip was the exact opposite. It looked carved out of a longer scene, to me.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nomad on October 01, 2010, 04:29:15 PM
cm3
http://mmcafe.com/nico.html (http://mmcafe.com/nico.html)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12293199  (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12293199)

or http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12293199 (http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12293199)

*Sigh* This is starting to get old.  Aaz, send me a message whenever we know this thing is a movie, series or whatever end up being.  Please?  :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on October 01, 2010, 04:31:13 PM
In regards to the whole discussion about the music, like I said, I have no problems with the original trailer's music.  I liked it especially in CM1, and when hearing it for the first time, and the feeling I got when finally seeing Berserk in motion again... it felt VERY fitting.  That girl singing oOOo oOOO OOO was exactly what was going on in my head, (ahahah no joke).  It was like WOW, realization, am I dreaming, what am I seeing?  It was great.

However, sure, in the end, I really hope for Susumu because he is so unique and his music is ingrained in my head as Berserk music.  But, if it's not him, as long as the music is still superb, then I could live with it.  It's just to me, Susumu is the ideal choice.  So let's hope!

cm3

or http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12293199 (http://en.nicoviewer.info/sm12293199)

Casca looking as gorgeous as ever!!!! :casca:  Damn those strategically placed leaves though.  I'm very happy right now.  VERY VERY happy.  Assuming it's a full scale series, of course. :???:

OH YEAH, can someone translate the text in CM3?  CM1 says BERSERK BEGINS, CM2 says BERSERK REBIRTH, and now CM3 says BERSERK ____ ? (Thanks to Graywords for CM1+2)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 01, 2010, 04:33:02 PM
I'm becoming increasingly confident that there is more intended for these clips. The fact that Casca is speaking means they intend to give her a voice at some point surely?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 01, 2010, 04:39:30 PM
Thanks for the keen eyes, Danat!  :isidro:

Man, that Beherit reveal was so incredibly stylized and overdramatic... I can't imagine that was cut from some longer scene. It looked like it came from some old PC game, where you walk into a room and it suddenly plays a clip.

The Casca clip was the exact opposite. It looked carved out of a longer scene, to me.

Did you like the way they presented the Beherit? I can't tell! I really loved the animation with Casca, but the leaves were a little hokey to me.  I hope they don't end up cutting corners like that all around.

The next CM will reveal Donovan baking a pie with Guts. : )

Also, DirectDK, you gotta stop pumping all these Hirasawa cuts out, you're getting me all hopeful!  :guts: I think I'd be disappointed if we didn't get something from Hirasawa, but I'd still be open to hearing a different take on the score.  It might even be interesting to see how someone else handles the mood.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 01, 2010, 04:42:29 PM
Did you like the way they presented the Beherit? I can't tell! 

If you look closely, it would appear that the hand turning is sped up and then the eye movement seems slowed down. I think it's been toyed around with to fit into the commercial.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 01, 2010, 04:49:55 PM
Thanks for the keen eyes, Danat!  :isidro:

Man, that Beherit reveal was so incredibly stylized and overdramatic... I can't imagine that was cut from some longer scene. It looked like it came from some old PC game, where you walk into a room and it suddenly plays a clip.

The Casca clip was the exact opposite. It looked carved out of a longer scene, to me.
I thought the Beherit reveal looked like it would be a clip from the opening. I agree about the Casca clip, far too random to be a standalone clip. Especially with her apparent talking. It definitely looks to be from something longer.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 01, 2010, 05:05:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWibBuWvZbA

YouTube version of CM3.

Rough translation of the kanji in the title (胎動) is "Fetal Movement" or "Quickening."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 01, 2010, 05:07:20 PM
Obviously the people on the Young Animal site don't know when everything is airing, because this morning the last two clips said 10.4, now one says 10.4 and the other 10.5
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 01, 2010, 05:09:50 PM
Casca moved her lips! its official! we get voice actors! :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Danat on October 01, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
as I understand it, the scene with Casca is when Casca and Guts fell in the river from a cliff, and then Guts carried her to the cave in the tree. And yea, her speaking really points to the scene being a part of something more serious than just test material.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on October 01, 2010, 05:27:41 PM
I ain't mad at it!

The Beherit scene was very cool and creepy! Can't wait to turn it into a gif. for an avatar!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 01, 2010, 05:30:56 PM
I ain't mad at it!

The Beherit scene was very cool and creepy! Can't wait to turn it into a gif. for an avatar!
I "ain't mad at it" either. I just thought it looked a little sloppy, for what it was.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 01, 2010, 06:43:51 PM
I'm probably the only one in the world but I'm not really interested in those clips. Hopefully the information in Young Animal will leak early because it's all pretty boring to me so far.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Johnstantine on October 01, 2010, 07:06:20 PM
I'm probably the only one in the world but I'm not really interested in those clips. Hopefully the information in Young Animal will leak early because it's all pretty boring to me so far.

I'm not interested in them either.  I watched them, but I haven't got at all excited about them.  They're clips and that's it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 07:50:25 PM
Might as well keep this going:

http://www.youtube.com/v/7Xgz7GDkO5w
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Konketsuji on October 01, 2010, 07:58:22 PM
That's more like it. :casca: After cm2 left a bad taste in my mouth it's like a fresh breeze.
as I understand it, the scene with Casca is when Casca and Guts fell in the river from a cliff, and then Guts carried her to the cave in the tree.
Yep, looks like it, since there's not so many scenes involving her naked and covered with leaves. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CowTip on October 01, 2010, 07:58:59 PM
Those are some sticky leaves.

While 15 second clips are fairly worthless, if it is leading up to a big announcement I'd rather this to some sort of stupid time counter.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 01, 2010, 08:03:50 PM
While 15 second clips are fairly worthless, if it is leading up to a big announcement I'd rather this to some sort of stupid time counter.

Can't argue with that. Counters are the absolute worst.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on October 01, 2010, 08:49:33 PM
Rough translation of the kanji in the title (胎動) is "Fetal Movement" or "Quickening."

Indeed! Fetal movement it is... though "Berserk Fetal Movement" doesn't have quite the same ring in English, so I searched around for examples of 胎動 with more figurative meanings.

One way to say it could be "Berserk Stirs". You could throw a "Within" after that if you're feeling frisky.  :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on October 01, 2010, 09:09:16 PM
Wonder if those leaves were put there for the express purpose of the commercial.... probably not. One seems to start slipping away.

Beherit looks fine. A little clumsy, perhaps, but fine. Tomo the Tomo continues to not be Susumu and we all remain oblivious to the actual point.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 01, 2010, 09:38:12 PM
I expect the new anime to be much more gorier/sexual this time around and not leave anything out.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on October 01, 2010, 09:58:34 PM
Tomo the Tomo continues to not be Susumu and we all remain oblivious to the actual point.

Tomo the Tomo? what is this

Oh here's Tomo the Tomo's blog confirming it: http://ameblo.jp/tomothetomo/

The Google translation suggests she recorded just that specific piece for the commercials.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 02, 2010, 01:38:37 AM
Any word on who's directing?

(Hello, its been a while ^_^)

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on October 02, 2010, 01:58:49 AM
Any word on who's directing?

(Hello, its been a while ^_^)



Holy shit, well look who it is.   :guts:

Naa, no idea yet.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 02, 2010, 02:12:20 AM
Holy shit, well look who it is.   :guts:

Naa, no idea yet.

This isn't the Ramen you are looking for.
Move along
Move along

 :serpico:

Looking at the Studio 4°c wiki, Koji Morimoto is one of the key directors there but I think he has his own project feature film right now (don't quote me on this)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_4%C2%B0C

I just hope this project isn't directed by someone like Atsushi Wakabayashi, who did Guin Saga. (exceptionally disappointing) I swear, if I see armored human soldiers jumping like ninja's through a forest one more time, I'll punch someone in the face. Is walking and running just not cool anymore?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on October 02, 2010, 04:07:53 AM
I would love to see this CG animation on blu ray.  :beast:

I'm sorry, but every breadcrum they throw us, makes me more excited.
 
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 02, 2010, 04:30:03 AM
I would love to see this CG animation on blu ray.  :beast:

Well, if it turns out to be a series or OVA, depending on when they release it in Japan, it'll be two years or more before it hits U.S. shores. In other words, you're gonna have to wait a while.

BTW, is it just me or does Casca look too old in CM3? One of my (many) gripes with the '97 series was that the characters looked way too old despite only being 18 for most of the Golden Age Arc. Maybe they're basing her appearance off of Miura's latest drawing style?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on October 02, 2010, 04:53:45 AM
Well, if it turns out to be a series or OVA, depending on when they release it in Japan, it'll be two years or more before it hits U.S. shores. In other words, you're gonna have to wait a while.

BTW, is it just me or does Casca look too old in CM3? One of my (many) gripes with the '97 series was that the characters looked way too old despite only being 18 for most of the Golden Age Arc. Maybe they're basing her appearance off of Miura's latest drawing style?

Too old? Na, I think her hair length is about right for that scene. It tends to get a tiny bit longer by the Guts come back after leaving the hawk if I remember correctly. She is a little "built" but I would associate that with the years of battle.  :badbone: I woud like to see a clip of one of the battle scenes to see hiw they animated the armies.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 06:06:53 AM
Too old? Na, I think her hair length is about right for that scene. It tends to get a tiny bit longer by the Guts come back after leaving the hawk if I remember correctly.

What does her hair length have to do with looking too old or not?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 02, 2010, 06:42:11 AM
Quote from: http://twitter.com/berserk_project
フォロワーさんに海外の方が多いので、来週、どこかで英語でツイートしてみます。英語出来る人に、頼んでみます。
Machine translation: So many people's followers overseas next week and try to tweet in English somewhere. English people can try asking.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 06:54:52 AM
He's just saying he'll tweet in English next week for the foreigners (he'll have to ask another guy who speaks English). Looks like they have more foreigners following them than Japanese people. :iva:

Also, regarding the previous tweets:

- The guy's uploaded CM3 on YA's website.
- Commercial "D" that will be broadcast today will be a collection of the scenes in A to C with a different narration from Gackt. The guy encourages us to try to interpret the meaning of the lines.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 02, 2010, 09:04:46 AM
Considering the obvious inference of the "Berserk: Starts / Rebirth / Stirs" text, if they're actually saying there is a hidden message to interpret (even though he's not talking about the text)... imho, when combined with everything else we know, the only question left is what format the new anime will be released in (TV series, OAVs or movie/s).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 02, 2010, 09:09:17 AM
I expect the new anime to be much more gorier/sexual this time around and not leave anything out.
I don't know if I'm expecting that but I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 09:23:52 AM
the only question left is what format the new anime will be released in (TV series, OAVs or movie/s).

Well that's pretty much the only question there's been: what shape will that anime project take? The guy who had leaked pictures a year ago said that he hadn't seen the Griffith footage from the first CM back then, possibly confirming that it's newer material. It would mean that they're sticking with that style/studio, but it doesn't help us guess the scope of what they plan to do. On the other hand, we've seen scenes from 3 different arcs of the manga, so we can assume they're not planning to stick to a small section of the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 02, 2010, 09:29:21 AM
Well that's pretty much the only question there's been: what shape will that anime project take?

Earlier, some people had been speculating that the "anime project" might refer only to these 15-second ads.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 09:32:59 AM
Earlier, some people had been speculating that the "anime project" might refer only to these 15-second ads.

I would know, since I'm the one who first mentioned how confusing it was, but it's just a matter of YA's communication being poorly thought-out. Like I also said at the time, I highly doubt they'd spend so much money just to advertize the volume, nor would they put an ad on the volume to get people to watch commercials on TV if those commercials' only purpose was to get people to buy the volume.

That being said, we still don't have any official confirmation of what that project will be.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 02, 2010, 09:36:40 AM
Yeah, it definitely seemed possible before considering the possibility of test footage from a failed 2008 series pitch or whatever, and because of the ambiguous way they communicated things (which was presumably intentional, since they're talking about interpreting clues now). I was just meaning that, with the new information, I don't think it's a plausible option any more.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
the ambiguous way they communicated things (which was presumably intentional, since they're talking about interpreting clues now).

A somewhat clumsy attempt to tease the fans, as far as I'm concerned. You can tell from the Twitter guy's messages ("What? Foreigners care?!") that they're pretty clueless in general. They don't even know who their audience is.

Anyway, to keep the discussion constructive, what form do people think or hope the project will take (and why)? What parts of the manga do you guys want to see animated the most?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 02, 2010, 10:14:31 AM
For some reason, despite the censorship issue, my gut feeling is that it'll be a TV series. Maybe because long OAV series seem rare nowadays?... not sure exactly.

I heard a rumour a while back that the leaked shots were from a single Berserk film Studio 4'C was working on. Don't remember where, and it's likely that there was nothing to it. I certainly hope not, anyway, as trying to cram everything in would result in a total mess. A Kara no Kyoukai-style series of films could work, but it might be tough to give each a satisfying ending.


The Golden Age arc is definitely my favourite, and to be honest I'd enjoy seeing it again with fluid fight scenes and some of the sections missed from the original anime. Obviously it'd be great to see some never-before-animated arcs in motion, though... Hard to choose :/. From the clips, it seems as if there'll hopefully be no need to. Exactly where to end a series is more awkward.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 02, 2010, 10:18:15 AM
Anyway, to keep the discussion constructive, what form do people think or hope the project will take (and why)? What parts of the manga do you guys want to see animated the most?
I want these to be OVAs, and I want to see the fights at the Flora's mansion. :zodd: :SK:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 02, 2010, 10:21:41 AM
I still feel that it may end up being a series of shorts focusing on key stories within Berserk. With the CG adding to the budget it seems unlikely they would take it to an entire series, since that would be a financial gamble.

I personally want it to be a series that goes all the way up to volume 35. If they take the approach they did with Initial D 4th Stage (2 episodes every 2-3 months), a series which also featured a lot of CG, they could potentially gain more material as it's released via the manga to keep it going for years. But that's me being very optimistic.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Proj2501 on October 02, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
Anyway, to keep the discussion constructive, what form do people think or hope the project will take (and why)? What parts of the manga do you guys want to see animated the most?

As much as I'd love to see a full fledged, well done anime, I have this feeling it will be OVAs. I'd prefer well done OVAs than a poor anime series. From the clips we've seen, it was the very shot of Griffith that gives some hope of seeing material post incarnation. I'm scared of sitting through a rehash of the original series. Obviously it's integral to Berserk, but we all know the score. Clips including Zodd, Casca, and Guts leaving Griffith frighten me that it'll be a re-do of the original series. Please, please god be flashbacks.

I think if this mystery project is more than commercials we'll see Femto's incarnation. That means  :mozgus: :puck: :SK: :zodd:
That would be more than enough for me to be satisfied. If a series or OVAs is about to be announced it makes perfect sense to cover this part of Berserk.

For the masses who don't read the manga, it's this part that shows, more or less, how 'Griffith' 'returns'. I'd love to see ALL the manga done but it's simply not going to happen. I don't want to see the Lost Children chapter animated.

So I say if it's an anime: Guts looking for Casca eventually ending with Femto's incarnation. These chaps: :troll:, and the series ending with :beast: just before Vritannis.

Not much more than the PS2 game offered in terms of choosing what part of the story to focus on.
 
:ganishka: ? Doubt it.

However, be it OVAs or an anime. That means Berserk on Blu-ray. Hell yes.
AND if this does well enough...there could be a possibility for a future PS3 game.  :ubik:   Now I'm just getting ahead of myself.


Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on October 02, 2010, 11:59:01 AM
AND if this does well enough...there could be a possibility for a future PS3 game.  :ubik:   Now I'm just getting ahead of myself.
That would be pretty cool and I'm even sure that they would also release a PSP version! :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 02, 2010, 01:35:42 PM
That would be pretty cool and I'm even sure that they would also release a PSP version! :troll:
That was the first thread I read on Skullknight.net from page 1 onwards.. I went from :guts: to--> :judo:

Well played Aaz. :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dembol on October 02, 2010, 02:20:49 PM
OAV fashioned after Legend of Galactic Heroes would be awesome (110 episodes released in 4 batches/seasons). Better quality, no need for censorship and it can still be shown on TV afterwards. Everyone wins.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 03:13:26 PM
New CM: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745)

The kanji shown means "Berserk starts to move".
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 02, 2010, 03:24:52 PM
New CM: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745)

Well we get to the full Zodd flying away scene.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 03:28:36 PM
Well we get to the full Zodd flying away scene.

What? There's no new footage here.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 02, 2010, 03:31:55 PM
What? There's no new footage here.

Yeah your right lol. The last commercial I am hoping has new footage.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on October 02, 2010, 03:34:01 PM
New CM: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745)

The kanji shown means "Berserk starts to move".

Gackt sez:

「今、新たな歴史が刻まれる。」

"Now, a new history is carved." BERSERK

Finally, a complete sentence!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 03:35:25 PM
Yeah your right lol. The last commercial I am hoping has new footage.

Since it's web-only I think it could be longer. Logically, and given that there's footage we know exists but that hasn't been shown, we can expect something a little meatier.

Finally, a complete sentence!

Yeah but it still doesn't tell us anything concrete. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 02, 2010, 03:36:09 PM
Anyway, to keep the discussion constructive, what form do people think or hope the project will take (and why)? What parts of the manga do you guys want to see animated the most?

I hope an ova series like Hellsing Ultimate. Personally, I want a complete restart from the beginning, but I don't want the Golden age to take 20 episodes. I hope they keep it compact, no filler, just manga material. My biggest concern atm is still the director and the style of animation.
I don't like how Zodd looks in the commercial, his fur is smooth and dull. Like an unfinished 3d model. The leaves covering Casca also looked strange. I'm hoping for an ova series because it could mean better quality. And I'm all for quality. A weekly tv series would, imo, not do the manga any justice at all.

I want to see the Conviction arc and Millennium Falcon arc the most. The golden age is good and all but post-eclipse Berserk is better IMO.

Edit: The scene I want to see most is when Guts wakes up after the Eclipse, and his run away from the cave. It's going to be incredible to watch.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on October 02, 2010, 03:45:32 PM
Anyway, to keep the discussion constructive, what form do people think or hope the project will take (and why)? What parts of the manga do you guys want to see animated the most?

Right off the bat I would like to see Volumes 26/27 where Guts is exhausted from all his fights then gets into the armor and fights Grunbeld - it's my favorite part in the whole manga.

The day Berserk is on blu-ray... I... I don't even know what to say.. it would be completely amazing. I would like, of course, the anime series to follow the manga all the way to the very end, but that's not likely to happen. I would like it to start from the start to the eclipse - maybe season 1. Then continue to volume 27 - season 2 - and I'll be pretty content. Then maybe up to the Ganishka fight on Season 3.. if it even makes it that far. Of course they'll more then likely have more then two seasons by volume 27 if they did it legit... but we'll see.

One thing about the original anime when I first saw it SEVERAL years ago was I was kinda thinking it'd be a normal anime with some guy fighting some army. Then the last few episodes turned that whole anime upside down and completely blew me away. It went from mostly normal humans (with a little taste of Zodd) to all these crazy monsters killing people and then it all of a sudden stopped! In a sense, that is like the perfect season ender so I think if they got that in one season that would be good for people new to Berserk to have those same feelings and then want to read the manga while a season 2 is in the works.

New CM: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745 (http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12304745)

The kanji shown means "Berserk starts to move".

So no movie yet, right? I did google translations and anything real relevant in this link.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 02, 2010, 03:50:28 PM
I


am

fucking

ECSTATIC!

Where are those pics from last year!

I need to look at them so I can continue having sweet dreams about this beautiful project that is soon to be released. ^ ^
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 03:51:54 PM
Uploaded it on Youtube for those who can't use Nico Nico Douga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM)

Where are those pics from last year!

I need to look at them so I can continue having sweet dreams about this beautiful project that is soon to be released. ^ ^

http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=10632.0 (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=10632.0)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: m on October 02, 2010, 03:57:31 PM
Uploaded it on Youtube for those who can't use Nico Nico Douga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM)

So far I have not been able to see any of the videos at nicovideo, so getting the youtube version this fast was just great. Thank you!  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 02, 2010, 03:58:53 PM
I think in a perfect world I'd really like to see everything remade from the beginning. I've always wanted to see the first couple of mangas, with the Count, as an anime, and everything beyond that redone true to the manga. However, I think it really comes down to two options: A full length anime tv series that's graphically toned down from the manga, or a shorter ova series graphically true to the manga but a bit compact. I think option A has more of a chance of actually getting through all the source material and making a complete anime series (if the manga ever ends.) The ova option I think has more of a chance of being a one time, standalone thing, picking one arc and covering just that, with a few flashbacks to fill people in. Obviously I would ideally like a long ova that covers everything but I don't know how likely that is. At this point however, I have to hope either way, so I may as well hope for the best.


Thanks Aaz for that upload  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on October 02, 2010, 04:06:15 PM
So far I have not been able to see any of the videos at nicovideo, so getting the youtube version this fast was just great. Thank you!  :guts:

Agreed. I can't figure it out on that nicovideo site either. Thanks for the quick youtube! -stupid Americans only know how to youtube >_<
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 02, 2010, 04:07:02 PM
However, I think it really comes down to two options: A full length anime tv series that's graphically toned down from the manga, or a shorter ova series graphically true to the manga but a bit compact.

I'm not sure I understand your intended meaning of graphically in this context. But more so than a scene by scene comparison of a possible animated series, vs animated OVA's, I also worry about scenes from the manga that might be cut completely from the story if an animated series were made.

Quote from: Turkitage
-stupid Americans only know how to youtube >_<

I'm a smart American and I can't use nicovideo.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 04:18:35 PM
Quote from: m | DarkDragoon | Turkitage | Jaze1618
Thanks for the Youtube upload

No problem guys, took only a minute. I could have uploaded it even earlier but I didn't think of it.

I'm not sure I understand your intended meaning of graphically in this context.

He means gory.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 02, 2010, 04:23:50 PM
And boobs.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 04:27:14 PM
The 1997 TV series had its fair share of nudity. Regardless, this sort of stuff really isn't what matters most...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 02, 2010, 04:37:04 PM
Yeah I was being somewhat facetious. Though there were a few scenes in the manga that could never make a tv series due to the sheer amount of boobs.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 02, 2010, 04:43:59 PM
Yeah I was being somewhat facetious. Though there were a few scenes in the manga that could never make a tv series due to the sheer amount of boobs.
Which reminds me, I would love to see Wyald in full animation. :isidro:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on October 02, 2010, 04:47:11 PM
NeoGAF's duckroll noticed something interesting:

Quote from: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23646121&postcount=516
Berserk is probably a movie. At least, I see no reason why anything which is not going to be screened theatrically would have an aspect ratio of 2.35:1.

It could mean it's a movie. Or, of course, that they simply went with this aspect ratio on the test footage of years ago for no special reason, etc.

Still interesting!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on October 02, 2010, 05:06:07 PM
I still got say that the first commercial with Griffith is the best. Notice that bird flying in the background? That's the kind of detail I like to see and it leads me to think that this might be more than just a tv series.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on October 02, 2010, 05:07:29 PM
That's the kind of detail I like to see and it leads me to think that this might be more than just a tv series.

Or less!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: SimplyEd on October 02, 2010, 05:23:00 PM
My biggest concern, regarding this new animation project, would be "pacing" above anything else. Right now, we have so much content that needs to be animated to achieve a "perfect" adaption. It's rather unlikely that the animation staff can really pull this off without omitting certain scenes. Seriously, it would be hard to achieve within several seasons and there's no definite information regarding the initial run time of the new show. It would certainly be great if we could get full seasons for every new arc. That would do Berserk some well deserved justice, i guess.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IcePuck on October 02, 2010, 05:25:32 PM
Damn those short clips are freaking horrible. :ganishka: Wind and snow is flying around in a true Dragonball Z sonic boom fashion, Zodd is flapping his wings a little bit and going up like an elevator, Casca has leaves on her that could only stick if Guts glued them on her body... next thing you know they're releasing a heavily censored version in order to reach a broader audience and all the gore and rape stuff has changed. The most controversial part of the anime will be when Femto steals Guts and Casca's 5-year-old boy and takes control of his body by using mind powers.

More seriously, if they were only doing a part of the manga, I think focusing on the Kushan invasion would make for a coherent story with a satisfying ending, even if one isn't familiar with the rest of Berserk. Start around Femto's incarnation, and finish with Ganishka's demise and the merging of the worlds.

But whatever they make, it's great to see Berserk animated again after such a long time. Whether it's good or bad it should be fun to watch with the right mindset. =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 02, 2010, 05:27:09 PM
The 1997 TV series had its fair share of nudity. Regardless, this sort of stuff really isn't what matters most...

If they redo the episodes I hope they put back in that crack Guts makes about Casca "biting it off" when Adon and his henchmen confront them. I was laughing my ass off at that panel and Casca hits him.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 02, 2010, 05:28:13 PM
The 1997 TV series had its fair share of nudity. Regardless, this sort of stuff really isn't what matters most...

Exactly. What matters most is that they're faithful to the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 02, 2010, 06:47:25 PM
The Conviction arc is going to suck if they follow the rules of censorship.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on October 02, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
What does her hair length has to do with looking too old or not?

Nothing really, no big deal. Does she look older to you for that scene?

What is a great example of a CG anime series visually and story wise?


Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 02, 2010, 08:41:02 PM
The Conviction arc is going to suck if they follow the rules of censorship.

Not necessarily. A lot can be done off screen or through implication. It's not like there would be no blood at all, either.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BloodTalon on October 02, 2010, 08:53:29 PM
Since Berserk would have to be like what? Around 170 episodes or so to catch up to where it is now in the manga, I was wondering if there has even been an OVA series that has lasted around that many episodes? This is of course if there actually will be a new series.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Pez on October 02, 2010, 09:03:20 PM
Since Berserk would have to be like what? Around 170 episodes or so to catch up to where it is now in the manga, I was wondering if there has even been an OVA series that has lasted around that many episodes? This is of course if there actually will be a new series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes

160+ OVA's


They do not generally last that long, but it is not unheard of.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BloodTalon on October 02, 2010, 09:23:55 PM
Thank you for the link/info. :) My hopes are still up (I hope that's not a bad thing).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on October 02, 2010, 09:30:44 PM
Yeah, episode numbers will be determined by the animes pacing. Just no one knows.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 10:02:24 PM
Does she look older to you for that scene?

Hmm, maybe a bit, yeah. It didn't shock me (unlike those leaves that are nothing like what Guts covers her with in the manga), but the clip is too short to get a good idea.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 02, 2010, 10:18:24 PM
It didn't shock me (unlike those leaves that are nothing like what Guts covers her with in the manga), but the clip is too short to get a good idea.

Yeah, she's covered with ferns in the manga when we see her waking up, and while the clip is too short to make too many assumptions, I assume she's telling Guts her backstory, which she should be doing while wearing Guts' shirt, not leaves/ferns. If this isn't test footage, they're off to a bad start already. :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 02, 2010, 10:48:54 PM
If this isn't test footage, they're off to a bad start already. :iva:

Add it to the list, it's getting long.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 03, 2010, 01:05:06 AM
Hopefully they show more of Guts childhood and how Gambino sold him to Donovan to give the viewer a more in-depth view of why he hates being touched in this new anime. Guts whole shtick about it in the 1997 anime felt really vague. Also Wyald dude is the man his volume was definitely the best foreshadowing and will be an awesome addition to the anime. What I'm looking forward to most in this new series is the "Guardians of desire" anime adaptation.  :ubik:

Quote from: PublicEnemy
The Conviction arc is going to suck if they follow the rules of censorship.

They'll probably only show 5-10 seconds of the nude fest then cutaway after showing the orgasmic faces of some pagans. I wouldn't be too negative about it; the 1997 TV series did a good job handling graphic scenes of the series.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Skullgrin140 on October 03, 2010, 07:21:33 AM
Oh sweet lord yes! You dont need to say anything else to convince me about it. I'm there!

So far having watched the trailers I am quite impressed with what I see so far, this series definetly has some new life breathed into it as well. I just hope that since this new show is confirmed that Susumu Hirasawa will come back and do the soundtrack again, because him and berserk went so well together I cant hear anyone else do forces. But thats only if this new Berserk is even going to have Forces in or not.

I have a great deal of hope riding on this show, We've been asking for this for a long time. Now lets see if our prayers get answered.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on October 03, 2010, 03:06:33 PM
So far having watched the trailers I am quite impressed with what I see so far, this series definetly has some new life breathed into it as well. I just hope that since this new show is confirmed that Susumu Hirasawa will come back and do the soundtrack again, because him and berserk went so well together I cant hear anyone else do forces. But thats only if this new Berserk is even going to have Forces in or not.

If (and it's a big "if" still) we end up getting some sort of series or OVA, I think the chances are at least pretty good for Hirasawa to provide the music. Let's take a look at the track record for Berserk properties so far:

TV anime - Kenpuu Denki Berserk - 1997 - OST by Susumu Hirasawa
Dreamcast game - Berserk: Millennium Falcon Hen Wasurebana no Shou - 1999 - OST by Susumu Hirasawa
PS2 game - Berserk: Millennium Falcon Hen Seima Senki no Shou - 2004 - Opening/Ending by Susumu Hirasawa

Hirasawa has put out for Berserk every time so far, over a 7-year spread. (Though admittedly his work on the PS2 game was more limited in scope.) It at least seems logical that he would continue to do so, 6 years later. But we will see as time progresses, anyhow.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 03, 2010, 05:32:39 PM
So what do you guys think the chances of getting the original VAs back is? They were all in the PS2 game right?

And on a more far-off note, what about the US VAs? I actually liked most of them and would love to get them back if this hypothetical new anime gets dubbed. Does anyone know if they're still working for Media Blasters?(assuming Media Blasters would dub another Berserk series)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Skullgrin140 on October 03, 2010, 05:37:12 PM
If (and it's a big "if" still) we end up getting some sort of series or OVA, I think the chances are at least pretty good for Hirasawa to provide the music. Let's take a look at the track record for Berserk properties so far:

TV anime - Kenpuu Denki Berserk - 1997 - OST by Susumu Hirasawa
Dreamcast game - Berserk: Millennium Falcon Hen Wasurebana no Shou - 1999 - OST by Susumu Hirasawa
PS2 game - Berserk: Millennium Falcon Hen Seima Senki no Shou - 2004 - Opening/Ending by Susumu Hirasawa

Hirasawa has put out for Berserk every time so far, over a 7-year spread. (Though admittedly his work on the PS2 game was more limited in scope.) It at least seems logical that he would continue to do so, 6 years later. But we will see as time progresses, anyhow.

Definitely, One thing I am dreading that this show doesn’t do is go completely stupid and have some J-popish music thrown into it. J-pop and Berserk dont mix whatsoever, On the other hand I've seen Gackt's name in this trailer which could either lead to 2 possible things.

1. He's going to be involved in the show's cast (Probably Griffith)

2. He might be doing the intro do the show, which is possibly a good thing seeing as the intro the Penpals did was...a bit crap.

But having Gackt involved in this has me very interested and curious in a lot of ways, Also regarding Susumu Hirasawa, he’s been with Berserk since day 1 like you pointed out. Hopefully whoever’s in charge of the show’s production may agree to the idea of letting him come back and compose the soundtrack again. Hirasawa is one of the many things which held Berserk up, without him it just feels incomplete, I know that might sound rather stupid but honestly from a musical standing point I cant hear anyone else compose the soundtrack better than Hirasawa.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Pez on October 03, 2010, 05:39:35 PM
So what do you guys think the chances of getting the original VAs back is? They were all in the PS2 game right?

And on a more far-off note, what about the US VAs? I actually liked most of them and would love to get them back if this hypothetical new anime gets dubbed. Does anyone know if they're still working for Media Blasters?(assuming Media Blasters would dub another Berserk series)

I would not mind the Japanese cast all that much, but when it comes to an English translation, if that were to occur I would like new voices. Some parts in the series were really..."...eh" to me. Mostly it was the villians, but some of the lines were just cringe worthy.

However, as long as Johnny Young Bosch is NOT in it, then everything is just fine with me.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 03, 2010, 06:04:14 PM
Dreamcast game - Berserk: Millennium Falcon Hen Wasurebana no Shou - 1999 - OST by Susumu Hirasawa

Five of the tracks aren't from him, for info.

So what do you guys think the chances of getting the original VAs back is? They were all in the PS2 game right?

Most of them were. And I think at least the main guys will come back. I do hope we get new voices for some characters though, like Isidro, Serpico and maybe Puck. I didn't like them much in the PS2 game.

assuming Media Blasters would dub another Berserk series

As far as I know Media Blasters isn't going to be around much longer.

On the other hand I've seen Gackt's name in this trailer which could either lead to 2 possible things.

I can give you two good reasons for Gackt's involvement in the commercials: he's a big fan of Berserk and Miura did something for him (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=9178.0) 2 years ago. It doesn't automatically mean he'll be further involved in the project. That being said I wouldn't mind if he were; I find him convincing in the CMs.

Also regarding Susumu Hirasawa, he’s been with Berserk since day 1 like you pointed out. Hopefully whoever’s in charge of the show’s production may agree to the idea of letting him come back and compose the soundtrack again.

I think it's more a matter of whether Hirasawa will want to do yet another Berserk OST or not.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 03, 2010, 06:36:17 PM
I would not mind the Japanese cast all that much, but when it comes to an English translation, if that were to occur I would like new voices. Some parts in the series were really..."...eh" to me. Mostly it was the villians, but some of the lines were just cringe worthy.

However, as long as Johnny Young Bosch is NOT in it, then everything is just fine with me.
The only voice I really liked in the dub was Griffith's. I thought it was very fitting and the guy was a really good actor.

Haha Johnny, that guy is such an anime slut these days. Can't say I hate him though. I've met him quite a few times and he's a really cool guy so I'm a little biased towards him.


What do you know about media blasters Aazealh?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Pez on October 03, 2010, 06:41:30 PM
The only voice I really liked in the dub was Griffith's. I thought it was very fitting and the guy was a really good actor.

Haha Johnny, that guy is such an anime slut these days. Can't say I hate him though. I've met him quite a few times and he's a really cool guy so I'm a little biased towards him.


Not to say anything bad about the man himself, I am just tired of him being in everything that comes out. He has a problem with changing his voice most of the time, and I am tired of getting excited thinking that Trigun is back on the air. If he would just change his voice for the character, it would not be so bad...I don't want to be able to pinpoint who the voice actor is after a single word.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 03, 2010, 06:51:27 PM
Not to say anything bad about the man himself, I am just tired of him being in everything that comes out. He has a problem with changing his voice most of the time, and I am tired of getting excited thinking that Trigun is back on the air. If he would just change his voice for the character, it would not be so bad...I don't want to be able to pinpoint who the voice actor is after a single word.
Yeah I don't think I've ever heard a second voice from him, he always sounds the same.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Skullgrin140 on October 03, 2010, 07:00:48 PM
So what do you guys think the chances of getting the original VAs back is? They were all in the PS2 game right?

And on a more far-off note, what about the US VAs? I actually liked most of them and would love to get them back if this hypothetical new anime gets dubbed. Does anyone know if they're still working for Media Blasters?(assuming Media Blasters would dub another Berserk series)

In the terms of the original seiyu I do hope they return to voice the cast once again, as for the english dub however. NYAV post’s dub is a bit of mixed bag, Marc Diraison did a very good job as Guts, Same with Kevin T Collins as Griffith, but I think for this its time for a new cast and with voices for characters that work, And please no Johnny Yong Bosch. I like the guy but he is in way too many shows, Personally in the terms of dub voice actors for Berserk...I want to hear Paul Dobson as Guts. I've wanted that for a while.

Still, lets see how this show turns out.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Pez on October 03, 2010, 07:21:41 PM
I am actually hoping for unknown talent. I cannot really think of anyone off the top of my head that I want to hear voicing Guts. I am just hoping that it won't take too long after the initial release in Japan to see it released in the U.S. I hate waiting. Now that I know there is going to be a new anime, I am going to be anxious for the year or more that it is going to take for it to even be finished, let alone released in Japan, and then over here...  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BerserkMJM on October 03, 2010, 07:49:49 PM
Could the leaves in the third commercial just be a form of censorship, as in they may not be so bulky in an uncensored version? They did move about awkwardly, as in they may have been slapped on in a last second effort.

Dunno.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 03, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
Could the leaves in the third commercial just be a form of censorship, as in they may not be so bulky in an uncensored version?

You actually see less skin in the manga than in that clip, so I don't think so. Either they didn't care (most of the scenes have contained inaccuracies so far) or those leaves better fit their budgetary constraints for some reason. But you know, her head's also not resting on the right piece of equipment in the scene, and I can't think of a good reason for that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: |BERZERKER| on October 03, 2010, 08:02:39 PM
In the terms of the original seiyu I do hope they return to voice the cast once again, as for the english dub however. NYAV post’s dub is a bit of mixed bag, Marc Diraison did a very good job as Guts, Same with Kevin T Collins as Griffith, but I think for this its time for a new cast and with voices for characters that work, And please no Johnny Yong Bosch. I like the guy but he is in way too many shows, Personally in the terms of dub voice actors for Berserk...I want to hear Paul Dobson as Guts. I've wanted that for a while.

Still, lets see how this show turns out.

Yeah if they do dub it in english I would hope that Guts would voiced by Paul Dobson or Steve Blum( assuming that Marc Diraison doesn't reprise his role). In my mind I also imagined that Keith David (AKA Arbiter, Captain Anderson, Spawn etc) would voice Zodd. Any way it will be interesting to see how this animated project will turns out.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: ChinoXL on October 03, 2010, 10:51:10 PM
This guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX48y24t9iU should do Guts he's pretty much given Bastion massive hype solely based on this one trailer - I think he'd be a cool choice.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 03, 2010, 11:10:38 PM
They could dub it with fingernails scratching a blackboard and it would be all the same to me. If you're listening to the dub, you already don't care how it sounds anyway. Now that that's settled, if we must get this far ahead of ourselves (it's not even official yet), let's at least talk about something more important, like what the potential DVD cover art might look like. :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on October 03, 2010, 11:43:16 PM
Good point Griffith.

Uhhmmm they could rope in the original voice actor, I think it'd be epic. Or maybe rope in Nakai Kazuya/ Nakata Jouji maybe.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 04, 2010, 12:00:50 AM
I think you missed Griffith's last point. Let's all stop talking about the dub.  :azan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on October 04, 2010, 12:02:51 AM
If they get the same guy to do Zodd's voice (Kenji Utsumi), I really hope they add some kind of special effects to his voice once he changes forms. I love the guy and his voice work, he's done some awesome stuff, but the choking noises he made as Zodd in beast form just didn't really make him sound very menacing.  :zodd:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 04, 2010, 02:16:43 AM
They could dub it with fingernails scratching a blackboard and it would be all the same to me. If you're listening to the dub, you already don't care how it sounds anyway. Now that that's settled, if we must get this far ahead of ourselves (it's not even official yet), let's at least talk about something more important, like what the potential DVD cover art might look like. :troll:

I found the Remastered Collection DVD art to be pretty nice :D.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 04, 2010, 02:25:32 AM
Marc Diraison should voice Guts' during the Golden Age while Michael Bell from Sword of Berserk Guts' rage voice older Guts for the other arcs in the anime. The voices from the original english dub are fine as they are. Also Aaz what's this about Media Blasters? Last I checked they were doing pretty alright. Hopefully, Funimation doesn't get a hold of this new Berserk project. I don't know why but I just feel an weird vibe emanating from the decision.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on October 04, 2010, 03:16:03 AM
So CM4 is just a slightly longer remix the others? Damn, missed a chance to see new footage. Only one more to go that's going to explain EVERYTHING.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 04, 2010, 03:58:34 AM
I couldn't care less who does the dub. I've always preferred Japanese VAs for everything excluding Cowboy Bebop anyway.

I'm still far more concerned about the animation direction. A lot of minor changes are popping up already and I think a lot more can still go wrong. If I see constant use of jump travel or all the fights are over-embellished with explosion effects. That would kill my interest in this completely.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 04, 2010, 03:59:19 AM
CM5 due out within the next 24 hours. Exact time is not known. This one will be different, because it's an exclusive for the Web. It'll appear first on Berserk's official corner: http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html

Berserk_Project's most recent Twitter provides the following straightforward details:

Quote
ベルセルクCM、WEB特別バージョン、明日午前中にアップします。よろしくお願いします。http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/
//roughly translated as//
Berserk CM, WEB special version, I will update tomorrow morning. Thank you. http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/
Right now, it's about 2 p.m. on Oct 4 in Japan. "Tomorrow morning" for them, the morning of Oct. 5, will arrive for us in about 15-16 hours. So, look for it around midday tomorrow, I'd say.

PS: Can we now please shut the hell up about the inconsequential goddamned dub?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 04, 2010, 05:38:04 AM
CM5 due out within the next 24 hours. Exact time is not known. This one will be different, because it's an exclusive for the Web. It'll appear first on Berserk's official corner: http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html

Right now, it's about 2 p.m. on Oct 4 in Japan. "Tomorrow morning" for them, the morning of Oct. 5, will arrive for us in about 15-16 hours. So, look for it around midday tomorrow, I'd say.

Hopefully, CM5 will be a bit longer than the others and give us something definitive to go on.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 04, 2010, 02:21:31 PM
So CM4 is just a slightly longer remix the others? Damn, missed a chance to see new footage. Only one more to go that's going to explain EVERYTHING.

There's no guarantees that CM5 will explain everything. But even if it doesn't, this week's YA should logically have more concrete details.

I'm still far more concerned about the animation direction. A lot of minor changes are popping up already and I think a lot more can still go wrong. If I see constant use of jump travel or all the fights are over-embellished with explosion effects. That would kill my interest in this completely.

Yeah... I can't say that the footage is all that promising so far. And a lot could indeed go wrong.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 04, 2010, 05:48:47 PM
Who do you hope will dub CM5?  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 04, 2010, 05:55:42 PM
Who do you hope will dub CM5?  :troll:

Gackt. :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CowTip on October 04, 2010, 06:07:28 PM
44 Guests, 25 users... all waiting for CM5? I know I am.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Proj2501 on October 04, 2010, 08:40:14 PM
Man. I'm on pins and needles here.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 04, 2010, 09:04:13 PM
Just as a reminder, any lurkers would be better served refreshing this page: http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html and not SKnet's forum. That site is where CM5 will first be posted.

But come on back to discuss once it's there!  :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 04, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
Despite the lack of conversation compared to how it has been over the weekend, you can't help but feel there is an immense level of anticipation on this forum surrounding this last commercial. If it brings us nothing, it's been an emotional and very busy week for SK.net for quite some time (admittedly I've been a lurker for longer than a member, but you still can't help but feel part of a big moment for Berserk) and I'm glad to have seen a rumour hold some water for a change.

Here's hoping to a new Berserk milestone!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 04, 2010, 09:37:42 PM
Well, it's already been a momentous occasion for Berserk and its fans, even if we still don't know what this will turn into (if anything). I think some may be downplaying the importance of what we've seen -- Griffith, Guts, Zodd and Casca animated for the first time in over a decade. That's pretty damned cool regardless of what this stuff ends up being.

It's definitely been a fun ride this past week, English dub actor discussion aside.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Diaz on October 04, 2010, 09:44:54 PM
That's pretty damned cool regardless of what this stuff ends up being.


Yes it is  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 04, 2010, 09:53:28 PM
Well, the Twitter account appears to be implying there is an update in Japan 'in the morning'. So if that's the case we have 4 more hours before it hits midday in Japan, thus something should happen before then.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 04, 2010, 10:41:46 PM
Hopefully, the Casca & Puck images from last year are in CM 5.  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 12:29:11 AM
CM 05 is up:

http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html

Same MO as before, but it's redeemed by one thing... :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 05, 2010, 12:31:31 AM
CM 05 is up:

http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/index.html

Same MO as before, but it's redeemed by one thing... :badbone:

Not for me it's not. What's going on?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on October 05, 2010, 12:33:38 AM
Best five seconds in a commercial ever. :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 12:35:21 AM
Best five seconds in a commercial ever. :ubik:

Yeah, even though they repeated the Beherit footage three commercials in a row, those first few seconds made it worth it. A long time coming, and he looked good in his debut too. =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 05, 2010, 12:39:27 AM
I have no idea why, but it's not showing up for me  :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 12:40:31 AM
Not for me it's not. What's going on?
I have no idea why, but it's not showing up for me  :mozgus:

Only the worthy can see! :SK:


Just kidding, refresh and try this: http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/cm/swf/cm.swf
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CowTip on October 05, 2010, 12:42:26 AM
Can confirm that refreshing your page works.

Too bad he doesn't move much in the video. Might as well have been a still figure honestly >_>

I was hoping for something a little more concrete. Hopefully more information comes very soon and they don't leave us hanging with just those clips.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 05, 2010, 12:43:48 AM
Awesome! That worked, Thanks Griffith...oh and  :badbone: !

Also, is anyone available to translate?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on October 05, 2010, 12:44:54 AM
Yeah, those first few seconds made it worth it, even though they repeated the Beherit footage in three commercials in a row. =)

What, was there anything after those seconds? :iva:

Might as well have been a still figure honestly >_>

I think this can be said of most of the commercials' footage.

I was hoping for something a little more concrete. Hopefully more information comes very soon and they don't leave us hanging with just those clips.

As expected, we'll have to wait for Young Animal.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 12:48:23 AM
Too bad he doesn't move much in the video. Might as well have been a still figure honestly >_>

You won't hear me complain. :griffnotevil:

As expected, we'll have to wait for Young Animal.

Yeah, unless the title card says something dramatically revealing (doesn't look like it), we've got to hope YA tells us something definitive. I'm even dubious of that though after this bizarre campaign. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CowTip on October 05, 2010, 12:49:41 AM
I think this can be said of most of the commercials' footage.

I don't know about that. Every other clip showed at least some movement. Griffith's hair, Guts swinging his sword, Zodd attacking and flying, beherit moving. Only the Casca scene was sort of pointless. SK just sort of sat there. I would have liked to see him pull out his sword or something at least.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 05, 2010, 12:55:34 AM
*fans self*

O.O

Best 5 seconds EVER

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on October 05, 2010, 12:56:23 AM
I don't know about that. Every other clip showed at least some movement. Griffith's hair, Guts swinging his sword, Zodd attacking and flying, beherit moving. Only the Casca scene was sort of pointless.SK just sort of sat there. I would have liked to see him pull out his sword or something at least.

The one scene you thought was pointless is the one that made me believe this might be an anime series after all, because of her moving her lips and not "posing" for the camera like all the others. I mean, even thought the others were in some sort of action, they looked like they were made especially for a 15-second spot. Well, this has been discussed and I'm repeating myself. At this point it's easier to wait for YA. Even if these specific shots were made just for the commercials, it doesn't mean they're not working on a series while we speak.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on October 05, 2010, 12:59:13 AM
I actually liked the minimal movement. Hmm, the more I think about it now, the more nervous I am of seeing how a more liberally moving  :SK: will look like.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 05, 2010, 01:02:06 AM
Hmm, I wonder what the guy over at NeoGAF who leaked the original photos would have to say now? We're missing a Puck and a Casca, so surely this must mean they have every intention of making this a full on series in order to see them in motion? :iva:

Yes, we need to wait for YA for full confirmation, but I'm pretty confident right about now, oh and ecstatic about those same 5 seconds  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Proj2501 on October 05, 2010, 01:08:07 AM
He looked good. Damn good.  :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: changsho on October 05, 2010, 01:13:46 AM
Skull Knight looks awesome, but I think he's also CG? There's something a bit too "perfect" in the way his helmet looks/moves which can only be achieved with 3D models.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 05, 2010, 01:14:58 AM
Hell yes, Skull Knight.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 05, 2010, 01:39:15 AM
So I get back from work, Griff has sent me a text that CM5 is up, and "it's a doozy." I reheat my dinner, I sit down in front of my PC, wait for CM5 to load. So im sitting there, sawing through a pork chop, staring at the very first frame of CM5. I can't really tell what it is, but im patient enough to wait for it to fully load before I click play. I take a bite of pork chop, look up at the screen again, and juuuust barely see the outline of the shield emblem and I just lose my shit. Pork chop bits are still sprayed onto a good portion of my monitor, even after a good initial wiping. Bravo, gentlemen. BRAVO!

Simply amazing. What a way to end it. I am filled with awe.  :ubik:

I have some comments on this little scene, but I want to wait until the initial wave of exclamations die before I get into them.

Ah, quick rough translation of the kanji after the title. 降臨 translates to ADVENT. I suppose that's fitting, given the theme of the others. But it tells us nothing. Also, I have no idea what Gackt is saying, and no way to translate it. That'll have to rest on Graywords' or other shoulders.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 05, 2010, 02:04:43 AM
I still have doubts of course.. but that 5 seconds was awesome.
Also, I feel like I made the mistake of watching these commercials on youtube instead of on YA's site. The quality looks a lot better.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: TheBranded1 on October 05, 2010, 02:11:47 AM

It was great to finally see SKull knight. Very menacing and posing intro! Also, I notice that in here you can actually see the sparks on Griffith's and Guts' swords as they strike. As I told other members in the chat room, I have been pretty neutral about these commercials although they sure have been a treat to see. I guess, we have to keep playing the patience game and see what YA announces later on the days to come. But whatever it is, for now it has been good seeing these 15 seconds of each commercial. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: jaymewv on October 05, 2010, 02:12:03 AM
wow... im real stoked about this.  Wonder how far things actually are with this project.  Does anyone know how long after something in Japan is completed it takes to get converted and Dubed in english for us in the US?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 05, 2010, 02:13:39 AM
Skull Knight looks awesome, but I think he's also CG? There's something a bit too "perfect" in the way his helmet looks/moves which can only be achieved with 3D models.

He's CG, same as all the other clips. Looks good to me, though.

As far as movement, I don't really feel that a 4-second clip of action would have been a good way of introducing him to anyone who may not have read the manga. They might mistake him for just another walking skeleton. He seems more dignified this way.

Anyway, the fact that they missed 3 shots from the leaked images -- and probably more, from what the guy who released them says -- preferring to repeat shots (for the second time in one case)... is yet more evidence that there must be some larger project than the adverts themselves.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 05, 2010, 02:18:54 AM
wow... im real stoked about this.  Wonder how far things actually are with this project.  Does anyone know how long after something in Japan is completed it takes to get converted and Dubed in english for us in the US?

Two to three years if it's not being simulcast.

As for CM5, I'm really impressed with the way the Skull Knight looked. Hopefully, YA #20 will have some concrete information in it so we can find out just what the hell it is they're working on.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: |BERZERKER| on October 05, 2010, 02:27:33 AM
Can anybody tell what volume that  :SK: scene was from? I think it was from volume 9 when Guts first encounters him; I remember that scene having a lot of mist just like  :SK: clip. What do you guys think?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 05, 2010, 02:32:32 AM
Can anybody tell what volume that  :SK: scene was from? I think it was from volume 9 when Guts first encounters him; I remember that scene having a lot of mist just like  :SK: clip. What do you guys think?
My first thought was volume 16, when he shows up to "eat" the Beherit, because that scene was particularly misty/foggy. But, I don't think there's any way to know for sure, from what we are shown. I screencapped the shot and photoshopped it to hell, playing with brightness/contrast, but couldnt pierce that fog in the background. Possible candidates are his appearances in 9, 16, 18, hell... even 26 and on, really.

Actually... now that I examine the scene from vol 9, the first full-page shot of SK looks very, very similar to what we're shown in this clip. Particularly how his horse is positioned in the frame, and the angle of everything, just before it "turns."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Uriel on October 05, 2010, 02:33:22 AM
Seeing as Graywords hasn't chimed in yet...

Vaguely, Gackt says: "想像を超えた...ベルセルク" or "Imagination surpassed, Berserk" :schnoz:

Also, the background appears to be a forested area? I thought I spied buildings too... anyway... um..so... where does that leave us? Time to pack our things, clean up the fangasm jizz and bits of cooked pork and move on?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: |BERZERKER| on October 05, 2010, 02:44:34 AM
My first thought was volume 16, when he shows up to "eat" the Beherit, because that scene was particularly misty/foggy. But, I don't think there's any way to know for sure, from what we are shown. I screencapped the shot and photoshopped it to hell, playing with brightness/contrast, but couldnt pierce that fog in the background. Possible candidates are his appearances in 9, 16, 18, hell... even 26 and on, really.

I think if you look very closely behind  :SK: you can faintly see some trees or shrubs so I think we can rule out volume 18 since that encounter takes place in a desertish plain.

I think it is most likey the scene from volume 9.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 02:47:07 AM
Here's a treat in the form of a tweet from the berserk_project (http://twitter.com/berserk_project) twitter:

Quote
We are greatly impressed by being followed by so many overseas Berserk fans. We hope all of you enjoy the world of Berserk.

That's not a translation, it's a tweet in English, as promised.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 05, 2010, 02:48:10 AM
Also, the background appears to be a forested area? I thought I spied buildings too... anyway... um..so... where does that leave us? Time to pack our things, clean up the fangasm jizz and bits of cooked pork and move on?

As mentioned, the fact that they modelled Puck and post-Eclipse Casca, plus a gory scene which would have been fine in a web-exclusive clip -- and yet didn't use them -- is further evidence of some larger project. So I guess now we wait for the official announcement.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 05, 2010, 02:53:19 AM
Seeing as Graywords hasn't chimed in yet...

Vaguely: "想像を超えた...ベルセルク" or "Imagination surpassed, Berserk"

Also, the background appears to be a forested area? I thought I spied buildings too... anyway... um..so... where does that leave us? Time to pack our things, clean up the fangasm jizz and bits of cooked pork and move on?

yeah I thought forest at first too. The outline on the right doesn't look like a tree at all to me, though. It has a pinkish-red shade at the top (Or maybe I'm just seeing things in all that mist). I'm going to take a wild stab and say it's when Rickert goes to get that bucket of Water, see Rosine. Goes back to the camp and everyone's been killed.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 05, 2010, 02:56:09 AM
yeah I thought forest at first too. The outline on the right doesn't look like a tree at all to me, though. It has a pinkish-red shade at the top (Or maybe I'm just seeing things in all that mist).
Try looking on the left, instead. Click. (http://skullknight.net/images/forestforthetrees.jpg) Looks like volume 9 to me.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: TheBranded1 on October 05, 2010, 03:00:16 AM


Yeah, it seems it might be that scene from Volume 9, Who knows, but still one of the best scenes from these 5 commercials.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 05, 2010, 03:05:31 AM
Try looking on the left, instead. Click. (http://skullknight.net/images/forestforthetrees.jpg) Looks like volume 9 to me.

Yeah, I see the tree there. It's that thing to the right of him that's giving me trouble.
Volume 9 does seem most likely as opposed to my suggested (volume 10)
Even the pose/angle looks like that one large picture of him from vol9.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 05, 2010, 03:09:14 AM
Working on combining frames to make a bigger shot of SK, but obviously the shifting angle and horse makes things look a bit... wonky. Still, pretty cool! CLICK. (http://skullknight.net/images/sk-combine.jpg)

Edit: EMBIGGEN! (http://skullknight.net/images/sk-combine2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: jaymewv on October 05, 2010, 03:10:30 AM
Working on combining frames to make a bigger shot of SK, but obviously the shifting angle and horse makes things look a bit... wonky. Still, pretty cool! CLICK. (http://skullknight.net/images/sk-combine.jpg)

Still pretty awesome
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: ZoddGuts on October 05, 2010, 03:16:42 AM
Eh the CG for SK looks bad.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 05, 2010, 03:29:00 AM
Hahaha, that was really worth the wait, right? Right?! :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on October 05, 2010, 03:41:12 AM
My jaw dropped... and it's totally 1000000x awesome to see Skully, but I NEED ANSWERS YA!!!!  "Imagination Surpassed" sounds good, in theory, like Berserk is becoming a new reality again, but it's NOT CONCRETE.  Young Animal hurry!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rus on October 05, 2010, 05:16:47 AM
Hey Guys , just saw the 5th clip. Really liked it and i really dig the art i think berserk will shine if it's done right. Nothing ever compares to the manga but it would be nice to be able to watch every week or once in a month. But something is bothering me in Skull knight's helmet i can count only 8 horns instead of the usual 9. I think it's more of the angle that he is shown and it's not a mistake . What do you guys think?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 05:35:29 AM
Footage from all the CMs, in order, set to Forces:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ot0rF5AqmgA
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on October 05, 2010, 05:51:36 AM
Footage from all the CMs, in order, set to Forces:

Nice, my man.  This made me even happier :serpico:.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on October 05, 2010, 06:25:06 AM
hey skully you're so fine
you're so fine you blow my mind
hey skully!
(clap clap)
hey skully!

I was mighty impressed by his cameo. It's a shame the rest of the commercial was footage from the other commercials, though. I was really hoping for a Schierke appearance at some point.  :schierke:

I'm hoping from now on, the tweets get more and more specific.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Graywords on October 05, 2010, 09:23:25 AM
I had to crash out early last night. Smart!  :ubik:  Translations got taken care of though, which is good.

I'm quite happy for some Skully animation. At the same time, we've been given exactly NO info.  :mozgus:

All we can do now is hope they announce it in YA, tweet something, or eventually give a press release...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 05, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
HELL YEAH SKULL KNIGHT!  :badbone:

pretty badass.  I think the CG looks nice so far.  I'm interested in seeing how they incorporate CG into the final product.  Griffith and Casca were hand-animated, which I'm pretty sure is more expensive and time consuming. 

Berserk Blu-ray anyone? Berserk 3D? HDTV3DALK:FJD:?

Hey YA, thrown us a bone here will ya.  Ha...ha.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on October 05, 2010, 02:03:42 PM
Can't say I am happy with that CG SK. Looks like cel shading of XIII. No it doesn't look good. If it would look like that i would rather want a animated light novel like aaz mentioned :D haha...oh god :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 05, 2010, 02:26:36 PM
Can't say I am happy with that CG SK. Looks like cel shading of XIII. No it doesn't look good. If it would look like that i would rather want a animated light novel like aaz mentioned :D haha...oh god :judo:
Ok, I feel like I'm colorblind or something. I thought both Zodd and SK's clips looked awesome. But many seem to be saying, "Oh it's just CG, fuck that." I don't get it. If it looks good, it looks good, whether it's been drawn completely by hand or was computer assisted. It's certainly not as blatantly CG as the PS2 game's Skully, so I really don't see a comparison in quality.

Basically, I feel like I'm missing something. Is there some kind of moral issue in using computers instead of it all being done by hand? Am I surrounded by Luddites?!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: jackson_hurley on October 05, 2010, 02:35:21 PM
I think I understand what they mean. I, on the other hand though, I find the clips really nice and I will be very happy if an animation is done. Be it cg or handdraw, I don't mind. I just want to see one of my favorite story moving on a screen. Lets stop being picky and just appreciate what'll be released if release there is.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 05, 2010, 02:50:05 PM
Ok, I feel like I'm colorblind or something. I thought both Zodd and SK's clips looked awesome. But many seem to be saying, "Oh it's just CG, fuck that." I don't get it. If it looks good, it looks good, whether it's been drawn completely by hand or was computer assisted. It's certainly not as blatantly CG as the PS2 game's Skully, so I really don't see a comparison in quality.

Basically, I feel like I'm missing something. Is there some kind of moral issue in using computers instead of it all being done by hand? Am I surrounded by Luddites?!

I think the difference lies in the method of CG.  This CG is trying to emulate hand-drawn animation (Ie; using cell-shading and pen outlines) however it comes off looking overly smooth when compared to traditional animation.  People didn't complain about the CG in the video game because Everything was CG.  The characters were all heavily textured, with the style geared more towards realism than a cartoon. 

I think people associate traditional animation with authenticity sometimes despite the quality.  2D animation is something people are used to.  We've seen it since we were kids, while the CG feels foreign, despite looking cleaner and smoother.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: kaimera on October 05, 2010, 03:11:51 PM
I think the difference lies in the method of CG.  This CG is trying to emulate hand-drawn animation (Ie; using cell-shading and pen outlines) however it comes off looking overly smooth when compared to traditional animation.  People didn't complain about the CG in the video game because Everything was CG.  The characters were all heavily textured, with the style geared more towards realism than a cartoon. 

I think people associate traditional animation with authenticity sometimes despite the quality.  2D animation is something people are used to.  We've seen it since we were kids, while the CG feels foreign, despite looking cleaner and smoother.
That's nearly my position. But i'm not against using CG in Anime, but it is indeed hard to embed it well. Also I had the feeling that cg could olden very fast when it is not very well embedded. The effect at the scene with zodd didn't bug me. But the CG with the SK, doesn't felt right. I mean the manga is very dark and the drawing style expresses that darkness very well. But a polished CG version. Okay i will try to make it easier to understand with some images etc. give me some time walther
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 05, 2010, 03:17:49 PM
Ok, I feel like I'm colorblind or something. I thought both Zodd and SK's clips looked awesome. But many seem to be saying, "Oh it's just CG, fuck that." I don't get it. If it looks good, it looks good, whether it's been drawn completely by hand or was computer assisted. It's certainly not as blatantly CG as the PS2 game's Skully, so I really don't see a comparison in quality.

Basically, I feel like I'm missing something. Is there some kind of moral issue in using computers instead of it all being done by hand? Am I surrounded by Luddites?!

I don't get the complaints about the CG, either. It looks like high quality cell shaded CG to me. No different than I've seen it in other anime recently. It's always going to stand out against hand drawn animation, but they're getting better and better at blending it in these days. Are people looking for photorealism in their anime CG? Because that would stand out even more.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 05, 2010, 03:30:43 PM
I don't get the complaints about the CG, either. It looks like high quality cell shaded CG to me. No different than I've seen it in other anime recently. It's always going to stand out against hand drawn animation, but they're getting better and better at blending it in these days. Are people looking for photorealism in their anime CG? Because that would stand out even more.

The cell-shading lacks a certain grittiness and roughness that is apparent in hand animation.  Berserk is a dark and gritty Manga, so it can be clashing to see a perfectly smooth model of skull knight.  I can personally tell a difference between the two, but not so much that it is jarring.  The clips look soft.  The shading, lighting and colors are all very soft feeling compared to the previous anime.

I actually prefer this style, though.  The composition is much stronger, and overall the framing simply looks more artful.  It looks less like an old anime and more like a cinematic experience.  The CG we've seen so far (which is a minuscule sum) looks promising.  I think nay-sayers should wait and see how it is incorporated (if at all) into a full production before casting judgement.

Okay i will try to make it easier to understand with some images etc. give me some time walther

I look forward to this! although there's a certain effect you lose by juxtaposing images.  Movement is one of the elements that differentiate traditional and computer drawn images.  A computer has no problem interpolating 30 or 60 frames a second between poses.  Animators often draw less than 30 frames a second (10-15) and then stretch it across a second. 

For the sake of science, GIFS might work better.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 05, 2010, 03:55:53 PM
The shading, lighting and colors are all very soft feeling compared to the previous anime.

I would attribute that to the low production values on the first anime rather than stylistic choices. Berserk is gritty, yes, but there's nothing wrong with the art looking polished.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 05, 2010, 04:36:37 PM
I would attribute that to the low production values on the first anime rather than stylistic choices. Berserk is gritty, yes, but there's nothing wrong with the art looking polished.
Yeah, I'd say you're right.  I think it had that effect though, whether it was intended or not. 
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 05, 2010, 06:40:50 PM
Ok, I feel like I'm colorblind or something. I thought both Zodd and SK's clips looked awesome. But many seem to be saying, "Oh it's just CG, fuck that." I don't get it. If it looks good, it looks good, whether it's been drawn completely by hand or was computer assisted. It's certainly not as blatantly CG as the PS2 game's Skully, so I really don't see a comparison in quality.

Basically, I feel like I'm missing something. Is there some kind of moral issue in using computers instead of it all being done by hand? Am I surrounded by Luddites?!
I think people have a hard time imagining how it will look integrated with the rest of the animation. From what I've seen in other modern anime, CG parts integrate very smoothly with the rest of the animation, and generally make the entire scene look sharper. Granted I've seen some bad CG cut into anime but this definitely doesn't look like that. Skull Knight looked bad ass, bad ass x10. There's no way that is not going to look good in the series if and when it happens.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 05, 2010, 06:59:30 PM
Wait.. does this mean that Femto & family might be in CG?

Thinking about it.. that sounds terrible. Hopefully they aren't in CG, I don't mind the apostles being in CG I suppose, but not the friggin God Hand.

Also, is Guts' Dragon Slayer CG too? because I paused it when guts swings it and it looks like it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 05, 2010, 07:01:53 PM
Wait.. does this mean that Femto & family might be in CG?

Thinking about it.. that sounds terrible. Hopefully they aren't in CG, I don't mind the apostles being in CG I suppose, but not the friggin God Hand.
Again I ask, what exactly is your reservation?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 05, 2010, 07:11:23 PM
I dont mind the CG, I think it looks fine with Zodd and Skull knight, but imagining :void: &  :slan: in CG seems funky. I think  :ubik: & :Conrad: (where's da love) would look great in CG on the other hand.
Femto can look good in any media, a crayon Femto would be fine. :femto:

I wonder if human form Zodd will be in CG.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 05, 2010, 07:20:47 PM
Femto would look great in this CG style, I think.  I agree with Truder though, some characters seem to fit the bill better than others.  Skull Knight especially, given he doesn't really "talk" or move his jaw.

Although if this motion capture rumor turns out to be true, it could work out fine.  It takes a lot of work to get models to output believable expressions.  Motion capture would make this easier and hopefully better.  I'm personally hoping they'll use CG for some characters while retaining hand drawn artwork for a select few...

CG would look fine on the God Hand...If the commercials are any indicator, we'll at least be getting hand drawn Griffith, Guts and Casca.  And dead soldiers.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 05, 2010, 07:32:39 PM
I don't have a problem with CG personally, though I can easily tell the difference (I'd already noticed it on the leaked picture of Zodd last year). Hopefully they'll go through great lengths to make it look as good and natural as possible.

The cell-shading lacks a certain grittiness and roughness that is apparent in hand animation.  Berserk is a dark and gritty Manga, so it can be clashing to see a perfectly smooth model of skull knight. [...] The shading, lighting and colors are all very soft feeling compared to the previous anime.

I know you already came back on that but that makes me laugh honestly. The 1997 TV series sucked in almost every respect: character design, drawing, colors, animation... it was all pretty bad. And putting that aside, "rough and gritty" isn't how I'd define Miura's drawing style.

Skull Knight especially, given he doesn't really "talk" or move his jaw.

That's not a real jaw, remember, it's just a helmet.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 05, 2010, 08:27:46 PM
I don't have a problem with CG personally, though I can easily tell the difference (I'd already noticed it on the leaked picture of Zodd last year). Hopefully they'll go through great lengths to make it look as good and natural as possible.

I know you already came back on that but that makes me laugh honestly. The 1997 TV series sucked in almost every respect: character design, drawing, colors, animation... it was all pretty bad. And putting that aside, "rough and gritty" isn't how I'd define Miura's drawing style.

Haha, I concur for the most part.  Though I remember it fondly since it introduced me to such a great series.  Back in the day it was the bee's knees.  Before I knew any better. 

Not so much his style, but his subject matter.  You're right though, his drawings have tightened up if anything over the years, and become very detailed.  Some of the boat scenes are incredibly detailed.  Occasionally it seems Miura will play around with a looser style, representing characters bordering on abstract.  In these instances it seems he looses up, focusing on the overall emphasis of the panel versus detail.  Maybe that's what makes his style so interesting; The contrasting elements in his art and how he uses both worlds to his advantage. 

"Rough" wasn't perhaps the best wording as it implies a loose hand, or art that is incomplete or gesture like.

That's not a real jaw, remember, it's just a helmet.
I remembered.  Aren't you proud of me?  :casca:

On a different note, It's extremely cool to see something like this come to fruition.  It's deserves a good anime...and another video game, please.  Developed by Valve.  Or Epic games.  Please.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 05, 2010, 08:46:15 PM
Not so much his style, but his subject matter.  You're right though, his drawings have tightened up if anything over the years, and become very detailed.

Of course the story has some grit to it, but we were talking about CG here (so, graphic style). :slan:

Occasionally it seems Miura will play around with a looser style, representing characters bordering on abstract.  In these instances it seems he looses up, focusing on the overall emphasis of the panel versus detail.  Maybe that's what makes his style so interesting; The contrasting elements in his art and how he uses both worlds to his advantage.

Yeah I think he's a pretty versatile artist. I always like to see him experiment with different styles. Some of the older covers are eloquent in that regard.

another video game, please.  Developed by Valve.  Or Epic games.  Please.

You can't be serious. It doesn't fit their respective profiles at all. Come to think of it, I don't know what developer I'd trust to make a good Berserk game. But that's not the appropriate thread to discuss it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 05, 2010, 09:03:24 PM
Of course the story has some grit to it, but we were talking about CG here (so, graphic style). :slan:

I kind of understand what Aphasia is getting at. The smooth detailing of CG seems to lack depth, which doesn't represent the level of detail in what we come to expect from the Berserk, therefore it doesn't portray it in the same graphical light and style of the manga. I personally would prefer a more dark and detailed colour palette for the anime, but beggars can't be choosers.

Yeah I think he's a pretty versatile artist. I always like to see him experiment with different styles. Some of the older covers are eloquent in that regard.

Miura's work continues to amaze me even now. The level of detail is astonishing and his versatility really is seamless from one panel to the next. I think I look forward to his artwork just as much as the progression of the story

You can't be serious. It doesn't fit their respective profiles at all. Come to think of it, I don't know what developer I'd trust to make a good Berserk game. But that's not the appropriate thread to discuss it.

I would say Yuke's and Sammy did quite a good job with the PS2 game. While it wasn't perfect I was happy with it for a series tie-in. I wouldn't mind seeing if someone like the team behind God of War or Shadow of the Colossus give it a go. But like you say, that's for another topic.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Shadowkin on October 05, 2010, 09:09:14 PM
I think the CG looks great. Skull Knight especially looks amazing.

Though considering that Berserk shows scenes with large armies they'll probably intend to use CG to animate these armies. This is probably the main reason why they decided to use CG for the anime as there will be hundreds/thousands of soldiers at numerous scenes and using CG will make it easier to make. It may look a bit awkward at times (considering what I've seen of other CG armies in other animes), but it will look better than either hundreds of poor and quickly drawn figures or still drawings depicting a battle like in the old Berserk anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on October 05, 2010, 09:17:34 PM
I would say Yuke's and Sammy did quite a good job with the PS2 game. While it wasn't perfect I was happy with it for a series tie-in. I wouldn't mind seeing if someone like the team behind God of War or Shadow of the Colossus give it a go. But like you say, that's for another topic.

I'll give you that Team ICO might make something interesting(though i would assume there would be no cut-scenes) but its not really their style.I would be against SCE Santa Monica going anywhere near Berserk, the God of War series makes me cringe.But for a good game overall maybe the Sega team behind the Yakuza series...I dunno either :farnese:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 05, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
That's nearly my position. But i'm not against using CG in Anime, but it is indeed hard to embed it well. Also I had the feeling that cg could olden very fast when it is not very well embedded. The effect at the scene with zodd didn't bug me. But the CG with the SK, doesn't felt right. I mean the manga is very dark and the drawing style expresses that darkness very well. But a polished CG version. Okay i will try to make it easier to understand with some images etc. give me some time walther

I don't think I'll ever understand people's problem with CG


It looks gorgeous. How can you feel uncomfortable with it? If anything the original 1997 anime warranted more uneasy feelings. The characters look nothing like their manga counterparts. The new Berserk Griffith feels like Griffith from the manga come alive same with Skully.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 05, 2010, 09:22:54 PM
the Sega team behind the Yakuza series
.

Actually, I reckon they would do a great job. If they could hand it to anyone I would say Yu Suzuki, since he seems almost as passionate about his work as Miura is about his.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 05, 2010, 09:35:02 PM
If the commercials are any indicator, we'll at least be getting hand drawn Griffith, Guts and Casca.  And dead soldiers.

Guts and the soldiers in the commercials are definitely cell-shaded CG. Pretty sure the others are, too (Griffith's armour is, at least). That's why they said "Full CG", and part of why I don't mind it. I tend to find it distracting when they mix hand-drawn 2D and cell-shaded 3D, but this is more like Valkyria Chronicles (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPhasMsayI&hd=1) or something. The fact that it's hard to tell shows they're doing a good job. It's normally the way things move that give them away.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 10:28:56 PM
I think most of the complaining is just that; bitching for the sake of it. There's nothing wrong with the Skully footage, and most of the CG and cel animation are complimentary if not totally co-dependent anyway. It's already been demonstrated that more of it is CG than even the people it allegedly sticks out like a sore thumb to realize (like Griffith's armor). Furthermore, if it's not just empty one line pejoratives, the reasoning behind the complaints are being expressed in vagaries like it somehow not being Berserk enough. There's the "reason" you were asking for, Wally, "it's just not Berserk." =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 05, 2010, 10:43:52 PM
Heh, yeah, I just pulled a few developers out of my ass.  I wasn't entirely serious, but a Berserk game would be cool.  Anyways.

Guts and the soldiers in the commercials are definitely cell-shaded CG. Pretty sure the others are, too (Griffith's armour is, at least). That's why they said "Full CG", and part of why I don't mind it.

Are you sure? I thought just parts of guts was 3D, like his false arm/sword.  If you're right then I'm thoroughly impressed by the quality of the cell shading on a human character.  Fooled me.  Although you can definitely tell with Zodd and Skull Knight.

Also, Griffith is right.  People will complain, always, about everything.  Gives them something to do.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: ChinoXL on October 05, 2010, 11:00:07 PM
I'll give you that Team ICO might make something interesting(though i would assume there would be no cut-scenes) but its not really their style.I would be against SCE Santa Monica going anywhere near Berserk, the God of War series makes me cringe.But for a good game overall maybe the Sega team behind the Yakuza series...I dunno either :farnese:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-asuras-wrath/704740  whoever is making that would make a good berserk game since it had me thinking of Berserk on bionic steroids with a tab of fist of the north star lol
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on October 05, 2010, 11:06:40 PM
I don't see where all the disscussion about what is and what isn't CGI comes from. As far as we can tell, human characters will be drawn normally and armour, weapons and apostles (Zodd at least) will be CGI. I still think theres a good chance even Zodds human form will be drawn.

I said i would reserve my judgement and now after all these CMs i can say im pretty excited. After seeing these CMs and the fact that all but one scene (the one of Zodd) still have not been shown Its save to assume a larger project is under way. Also from what i recall i wouldnt be surprised if the leaked image of Guts cutting down soldiers takes place in the same scene as the one shown in the first CM

As happy as i am though..i still think i need to see Guts cut something in half with this new animation style to be fully happy  :serpico:

EDIT: i forgot to mention how it kind of pisses me off Zodds horns are wrong. What the hell is that? It won't look good at all if hes tearing through things with one of those later on...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on October 05, 2010, 11:14:14 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-asuras-wrath/704740  whoever is making that would make a good berserk game since it had me thinking of Berserk on bionic steroids with a tab of fist of the north star lol

CyberConnect2 along with Capcom is making that game.The problem with Asura's Wrath is that they haven't shown how much of a game it is.So far it's just cuts-sence with quick time events and if thats the case I'd rather just watch a CG movie and not have worry about failing at a QTE and constantly have to a worry about failing at the game.Though from Cyberconnect2's background it looks like it's going to be a beat em' up with QTE's, so God('s of  the east) of War.

There's a lot of developers that can make the game part of Berserk somewhat enjoyable but it's the story scene's I worry about.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 05, 2010, 11:49:16 PM
Let's keep things on topic, this thread isn't about video games.


After seeing these CMs and the fact that all but one scene (the one of Zodd) still have not been shown Its save to assume a larger project is under way. Also from what i recall i wouldnt be surprised if the leaked image of Guts cutting down soldiers takes place in the same scene as the one shown in the first CM

It's interesting actually, because even the Zodd scene didn't contain the exact frame that was leaked, so we actually didn't see any of those particular leaked screens in the CMs, just what looked like related/surrounding footage. I wonder if that's simply incidental, or if those were intentional omissions.

EDIT: i forgot to mention how it kind of pisses me off Zodds horns are wrong. What the hell is that? It won't look good at all if hes tearing through things with one of those later on...

Yeah, now those errors are actually worth complaining about since they aren't subjective but just plain wrong.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on October 06, 2010, 12:54:32 AM
Yeah sorry, i did realize it wasn't the exact frame but...same scene pretty much. Most likely took place jsut a few seconds before.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CowTip on October 06, 2010, 01:43:14 AM
My wife pointed out that those leaked screens from last year, if they are actually a part of this project, may very well have just been pre-production renders used for framing purposes. There's no guarantee that any of those were or are now part of any actual animation.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 06, 2010, 01:58:09 AM
Are you sure? I thought just parts of guts was 3D, like his false arm/sword.  If you're right then I'm thoroughly impressed by the quality of the cell shading on a human character.  Fooled me.  Although you can definitely tell with Zodd and Skull Knight.

Yup, try pausing it on different frames with post-Eclipse Guts. The shading and outlines are of the type produced by 3D cell-shading filters like Illustrate (http://www.davidgould.com/Illustrate/IllustrateForMax/Illustrate53.htm). If you watch the way the soldiers move in the Zodd clip, they're definitely 3D models, too (good ones, though).

I do admit, if Griffith and Casca are 3D I would never have guessed without being told. They did say "full CG", though, so I'm wondering if they just did a really good job of touching them up or something (plus frame-by-frame animation for the hair). Keep in mind that the Zodd and Guts models were in a similar form back in 2008, whereas the Griffith and Casca clips may be a lot newer and take advantage of newer techniques.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 06, 2010, 02:14:53 AM
I do admit, if Griffith and Casca are 3D I would never have guessed without being told.

It's only noticeable on Griffith if you focus exclusively on the movement of his armor. I saw it when I began editing the CMs with Hirasawa music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot0rF5AqmgA), following DirectDK's lead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtumZixpHjk).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nirvana on October 06, 2010, 02:15:46 AM
Ya know, I don't really see what the problem is. I've been reading this thread for days. If it's animated it's animated. Who really cares what style it's in? Do you want the story animated, or do you want the story animated specifically for you? I don't care if it's CG or hand drawn or construction paper or stop motion animated. If it doesn't fuck with the story it's all the same to me. How are you gonna complain about something that doesn't really exist yet? We have no idea what they're gonna do. This animation, well parts of it anyway, are used from things drawn at the very least a year ago. Some of you people need to just be happy that we might be getting a revamp or second series instead of complaining about how it might theoretically look. These commercials looked good to me. Not that my opinion means anymore than anyone else's, but really, I'd like to see Skull Knight move. If it's CG, or hand drawn, or DirectDK with this hand behind one of the statues walking or galloping towards the camera (which would actually be quite entertaining), I'll appreciate it for what it is. No matter what's done, it's not gonna be as good as the manga, because it'll be a counter part of the manga, which is the story and the format and the way it's supposed to be represented and sold. The 1997 had more than it's fair share of flaws, but I still try and watch it at least twice a year. We should all just be happy there are enough people willing to fund and have interest in this story we all love so much.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 06, 2010, 02:43:38 AM
Largely agree with Nirvana.

By the way, g0rth (http://berserk2010.blogspot.com/) mentions that the "Coming Soon" item on the official site (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/) is somewhat suspicious. Maybe it's always been there, and I'm just blind, but I didn't notice it last week(?) I've been loading the /cm/ page directly since then.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 06, 2010, 02:48:25 AM
@Nirvana :ubik:

By the way, g0rth (http://berserk2010.blogspot.com/) mentions that the "Coming Soon" item on the official site (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/) is somewhat suspicious. Maybe it's always been there, and I'm just blind, but I didn't notice it last week(?) I've been loading the /cm/ page directly since then.

It's always been there, though it would be a nice place for a future anime project link, right? :carcus:

Speaking of which, YA still has this tantalizing image up on their main page, in case anyone missed it:

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/berserkanimeprojectstart.jpg) (http://www.younganimal.com/)

If it otherwise looks familiar, I used it as the template, i.e. ripped it off, for my Berserk Recut (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12099.0) project banner and sig.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nirvana on October 06, 2010, 03:03:12 AM
@Nirvana :ubik:

Thanks Griffith! I read these boards as a guest A LOT more often than I post, which has been the case for many years. It's nice to know my opinion isn't unrecognized! I only post when I feel like I can add something useful to the thread. Off topic, I know, but I figured I'd express my appreciation  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 06, 2010, 03:20:59 AM
Thanks Griffith! I read these boards as a guest A LOT more often than I post, which has been the case for many years. It's nice to know my opinion isn't unrecognized!

Sure, you hit the nail on the head when it comes to a lot of the flailing about going on over what this still theoretical project is theoretically going to be like. No reason for us to get too high or low just yet.

Personally, I'm cautiously optimistic and enjoying the ride. :badbone:

I only post when I feel like I can add something useful to the thread. Off topic, I know, but I figured I'd express my appreciation  :guts:
Ironically accepted. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on October 06, 2010, 03:44:55 AM
or DirectDK with this hand behind one of the statues walking or galloping towards the camera (which would actually be quite entertaining), I'll appreciate it for what it is.

DirectDK, can we get on this please? I need a stop motion animation of volume  1 - 35 - Thanks.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on October 06, 2010, 05:47:25 AM
I'm definitely in the camp that is just absolutely positively ELATED with what we've seen so far.  I'm just so happy that there might be another Berserk anime, whether it be TV or OVA, who knows?  Personally, I'm hoping for a high quality TV series because I would love to have more episodes than just a 13 ep OVA or something.  But yeah, so far, I've loved everything about the clips except for the leaves on Casca.  LOL.  They just look a little too much like pasties to me :slan:.  But my goodness, the way Griffith and Skullknight looked was just perfect.  I'm also totally fine with the way Zodd moved and looked in CM2.  I loved the way it was done, and the angles they used, and the lighting, and all that good stuff.  And aside from the leaves, I thought Casca's face looked great!!!  Hot and cute as ever, and resembles the manga as far as I'm concerned.  I know everyone has their art preferences and I know CG isn't drawing (traditionally speaking anyways), but in my mind, I'm totally diggin' the look thus far!

Speaking of details like Zodd's horn, though that was wrong, I stumbled upon a Berserk blog that pointed out something pretty cool: http://berserk2010.blogspot.com/2010/10/details-details-details.html

If it's CG, or hand drawn, or DirectDK with this hand behind one of the statues walking or galloping towards the camera (which would actually be quite entertaining), I'll appreciate it for what it is.

DirectDK, can we get on this please? I need a stop motion animation of volume  1 - 35 - Thanks.

:ganishka: :ganishka: :ganishka: You know, if I had the time, I'd TOTALLY do something like this, EXCEPT for the fact that if I do, there is a high possibility that something will break!!!  But I will keep this in mind :carcus:.  Although, Aaz, didn't someone do a Berserk animated gif of Guts fighting Spiderman with action figures?  That was really fricken good!

In closing, I'm going to be OUT OF THE COUNTRY for the next 2 weeks, so unfortunately I won't be able to visit or post in this thread much, if at all, until the 20th!  I will miss you guys and this thread, because as pathetic or AWESOME as it may sound... this has been the shining light of my entire week!  I've been refreshing this page like nutso and telling all my friends about it.  I even got 2 of my friends to watch the original series over the weekend!!!  Of course, I watched some of it with them and sang "Tell Me Why" as loud as I could (unfortunately, they didn't care for the song much!).  But yeah, hopefully when I get back, there will be some further confirmation about all of this and where this "animated project" is going!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 06, 2010, 08:43:53 AM
The smooth detailing of CG seems to lack depth, which doesn't represent the level of detail in what we come to expect from the Berserk, therefore it doesn't portray it in the same graphical light and style of the manga.

No anime that was ever created has had the same level of detail that can be found in Berserk. It's a waste of time just to talk about it. And again, if you compare the footage from the commercials to that of the 1997 TV series, you'll find out that the new footage isn't any less detailed.

By the way, g0rth mentions that the "Coming Soon" item on the official site (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/) is somewhat suspicious. Maybe it's always been there, and I'm just blind, but I didn't notice it last week(?) I've been loading the /cm/ page directly since then.

Mentioned by me on page 2 of this thread. (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.msg190052#msg190052) As soon as the new website launched basically. No need to look for info elsewhere. :slan:

Speaking of details like Zodd's horn, though that was wrong, I stumbled upon a Berserk blog that pointed out something pretty cool:

Yeah the columns are faithful to the manga, great. Too bad the character at the center of the scene, Zodd, isn't. I guess whoever made that scene didn't have their priorities straight? What's somewhat worrying is that it's not an isolated incident (as mentioned several times since we first saw the leaked footage a year ago). We'll see how it goes in due time I guess...

Aaz, didn't someone do a Berserk animated gif of Guts fighting Spiderman with action figures?  That was really fricken good!

Yup. It's still around too. Click here to see the original thread. (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=102.0)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 06, 2010, 10:38:45 AM
Yeah the columns are faithful to the manga, great.

 :ganishka:

Too bad the character at the center of the scene, Zodd, isn't. I guess whoever made that scene didn't have their priorities straight? What's somewhat worrying is that it's not an isolated incident (as mentioned several times since we first saw the leaked footage a year ago). We'll see how it goes in due time I guess...

It's a strange mistake too, taking the design of his single horn and doubling it. He's like super Zodd! Totally made up explanation: maybe they potentially wanted to do a scene with Zodd after volume 17 as well, so they hedged their bets on horns for the CG model. =)

Yup. It's still around too.

It is, but a little big to be posted in this thread. In honor of DK's brief departure, the youtube version:

http://www.youtube.com/v/cEwxkttS5DM

Hopefully it will inspire him. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rus on October 06, 2010, 10:40:38 AM
Hey guys, i mentioned it a while back but unfortunally no one replied and i really want to see you opinion. Sk's helmet looks a bit wrong to me i can only count 8 horns instead of the usual 9. Is it because of the angle that he is shown or is it a mistake from the animation studio what do you think ?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 06, 2010, 10:48:26 AM
Totally made up explanation: maybe they potentially wanted to do a scene with Zodd after volume 17 as well, so they hedged their bets on horns for the CG model. =)

Got rational explanations for the other mistakes too? Careful there, I might take you to task on everything else that'll crop up in the future! :rakshas:

Hey guys, i mentioned it a while back but unfortunally no one replied and i really want to see you opinion. Sk's helmet looks a bit wrong to me i can only count 8 horns instead of the usual 9. Is it because of the angle that he is shown or is it a mistake from the animation studio what do you think ?

Sorry, I remember that post but I've been busy this past week and didn't have time to check. Looking at it quickly, I think it could be the angle, but at first glance there does indeed seem to be only 8 spikes.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jesterhead on October 06, 2010, 11:01:16 AM
Hey guys, i mentioned it a while back but unfortunally no one replied and i really want to see you opinion. Sk's helmet looks a bit wrong to me i can only count 8 horns instead of the usual 9. Is it because of the angle that he is shown or is it a mistake from the animation studio what do you think ?

I think only 8 spikes were ever animated. Thanks to Walters EMBIGGENING, it really looks like 8 spikes versus 9.

(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/552/skully8spikes.png)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 06, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
Yeah, it looks like it could be two overlapping on the left, but it might not be. Adding to the confusion of other identification methods, even the "center spike" at that angle is kind of between being centered and there being two spikes with a space in the center... Inconclusive, basically, and I go by NFL replay review rules: if I can't conclusively see the result of play under review, I can't overturn the ruling on the field. So, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

On second thought though, since Zodd has two giant overcompensating horns, Guts is dueling Griff in his Hawks armor, and Casca's lying on a spaulder instead of her chest plate with stick'em leaves on, it probably doesn't matter. But that pillar is right on.


Totally made up explanation: if that scene is from Skull Knight's first appearance in volume 9, he appears with both 7 and 9 horns, so again, splitting the difference. =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rus on October 06, 2010, 11:10:46 AM
Sorry, I remember that post but I've been busy this past week and didn't have time to check.

No problem mate  :badbone:

Totally made up explanation: if that scene is from Skull Knight's first appearance in volume 9, he appears with both 7 and 9 horns, so again, splitting the difference. =)
Yeah i remember that it was mentioned a while back (i think it was you Griffith) so i counted them in the clip

The only thing that saddens me is that they showed us 5 clips that apparently have been lying around for a long time and in the 4 of them we were able to find mistakes. Off to a good start

But that pillar is right on.

Yeah at least we got the pillar :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 06, 2010, 04:47:50 PM
Yeah i remember that it was mentioned a while back (i think it was you Griffith) so i counted them in the clip

Actually it was our friend Truder who mentioned it recently: http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12027.msg189150#msg189150 (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12027.msg189150#msg189150)

The only thing that saddens me is that they showed us 5 clips that apparently have been lying around for a long time and in the 4 of them we were able to find mistakes.

One of the clips being a recap of the others, so technically we found mistakes in all of them.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rus on October 06, 2010, 05:12:56 PM
Actually it was our friend Truder who mentioned it recently: http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12027.msg189150#msg189150 (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12027.msg189150#msg189150)

Yeah you are right on that, sorry Truder!! :ganishka:

One of the clips being a recap of the others, so technically we found mistakes in all of them.

Too bad that's true... I realize it's impossible to create something exactly the same as the manga and I don't mind seeing some things changed in the process of making the anime, but come on they should at least get Zodd's horns right.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 06, 2010, 05:40:47 PM
Yeah you are right on that, sorry Truder!! :ganishka:
No Big Deal Yo!
(http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/Truder7/Berserkv30c262p116copy.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 06, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
About the number of horns on Skull Knight's helmet; if you'll notice on the right side of his helmet, the second to last horn is lined up with the line that runs down the side of the helmet, and the last horn is past that. Now on the left side, due to the angle of his head, our visibility of the helmet stops right where the line that runs down would be, and that appears to be where the last visible horn is. So it's safe to assume that there is indeed one last horn behind the one we can see. I hope that made sense.

Also, he clearly has a horn in the center of his head, and 4 on the right side, so again it's safe to assume that there would be 4 more on the left side as well.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 06, 2010, 08:16:53 PM
Also, he clearly has a horn in the center of his head, and 4 on the right side, so again it's safe to assume that there would be 4 more on the left side as well.

Yeah, very unlikely they'd make it asymmetrical. It'd be more work, for one thing.

He has 11 spikes in Aazealh's avatar, by the way. Does a new one grow every time he eats a Beherit, or something?

Edit: Ah, sorry, misunderstood. Well, still, the 5th spike seems to be centred, so I'd expect it to be symmetrical.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 06, 2010, 08:19:13 PM
He has 11 spikes in Aazealh's avatar, by the way. Does a new one grow every time he eats a Beherit, or something?

We're talking about the ones on his skull (the "crown"), not his neck guard. :slan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on October 07, 2010, 03:48:31 AM
On a sort of random note i like Kenta Sakurou Miura, The name of the guy updating the Twitter page? Does he have any relation to Kentaro? I enjoy the fact he acknowledges the fans over seas and how appologetic he is at messing up the release date of Young Animal by one day  :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Skull Knight on October 07, 2010, 04:11:33 AM
I hope this hasn't been posted already, but since the previous four trailers (minus the fifth trailer) were broadcast on Japanese television, does anyone know if there are any high definition videos of them on the net?  :???: I think the animation looked great, but .flv files really annoy me (and I want to see it larger than the ones on the Young Animal website if possible).  Anyone?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 07, 2010, 06:48:12 AM
Not HD, but HQ enough for decent full screen:

CM 01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdoKk1z4mUQ)
CM 02 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-obs9Fhzg)
CM 03 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y64guztEThk)
CM 04 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7biHOT2Dek)
CM 05 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3QsfdPSW2g)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 07, 2010, 06:55:37 AM
On a sort of random note i like Kenta Sakurou Miura, The name of the guy updating the Twitter page? Does he have any relation to Kentarou?

Hahaha, are you serious? That line: 「ベルセルク」(三浦建太郎 作) just means "Berserk (a work of Kentarou Miura)". The person updating the Twitter account is nameless (could be more than one person too). I told you guys, you shouldn't rely on automatic translation tools too much.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on October 07, 2010, 12:47:24 PM
Hahaha, are you serious? That line: 「ベルセルク」(三浦建太郎 作) just means "Berserk (a work of Kentarou Miura)". The person updating the Twitter account is nameless (could be more than one person too). I told you guys, you shouldn't rely on automatic translation tools too much.

oh...sorry  :farnese: Its all i can do to get my fixes as fast as i can on updates, and they get the basics of what ever the update is pretty well. But yeah, "is the official twitter" in the translator certainly threw me off haha.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Danat on October 07, 2010, 01:02:19 PM
But a polished CG version. Okay i will try to make it easier to understand with some images etc. give me some time walther
I was hoping to see your reply on this one, oh well. I'll just list my own issues with CG SK then:
- perfectly polished helmet looks out-of-place. It's the similar impression that I get when watching some WW2 movies where all soldiers on the battlefield have perfectly clean ironed clothes. It just doesnt seem right.
- his eyes. Looks like some Terminator2 with those 2 lamps in his head. And shouldn't those eyes NOT be red? According to statues and drawings i've found, SK eyes have only red outline, but otherwise have a white glow.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 07, 2010, 02:13:15 PM
- perfectly polished helmet looks out-of-place.

I get your point, but then again, when you look at my avatar said helmet isn't covered in grime. They do make it look a bit too shiny I guess. Anyway, there's no lack of discrepancies between the manga and the CM5 footage if one wants to nitpick.

- his eyes. Looks like some Terminator2 with those 2 lamps in his head. And shouldn't those eyes NOT be red? According to statues and drawings i've found, SK eyes have only red outline, but otherwise have a white glow.

There's no official word on what color they should be. My personal take on the matter is not red (outline or anything). And I agree that the glow itself isn't eerie enough.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on October 07, 2010, 03:37:57 PM
I personally imagine a Yellow/white glow for SK eyes. I think im most curious to see how they will animate the eclipse, entirely CG? By that i mean all the apostles/soldiers and even the landscape?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 07, 2010, 03:51:19 PM
I'm just glad they won't be trying to do anything with stop motion.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on October 07, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
I personally imagine a Yellow/white glow for SK eyes. I think im most curious to see how they will animate the eclipse, entirely CG? By that i mean all the apostles/soldiers and even the landscape?
Making a CG scene and incorporating other CG elements into it is easy as pie.  It's when you start adding 2D and 3D together that things get tricky.  So at this point I wouldn't be surprised if we're getting full CG.  I think the eclipse could look pretty badass myself.  I'm excited about seeing Conrad and Void in particular.  BRAINS.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on October 08, 2010, 03:32:44 AM
1:32pm Friday! Gonna have that info soon? Anybody been reading 2ch to see what they're saying about today's YA?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on October 08, 2010, 03:43:01 AM
1:32pm Friday! Gonna have that info soon? Anybody been reading 2ch to see what they're saying about today's YA?

I thought you were?  :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on October 08, 2010, 03:14:35 PM
They tweeted something new!
According to google it says:
Quote
This TVCM, YouTube, etc., seems it has already been viewed over 200,000 times. It seems that the spotlight worldwide. Welcome.

A bit rough but understandable.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 08, 2010, 03:16:20 PM
They tweeted something new!

You would hope it might be something from the new issue of Young Animal.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nirvana on October 09, 2010, 05:37:00 PM
Nothing new, but I figured it warranted posting. This is from AOW's main english page:

Berserk Anime- Special Sale

Berserk will be made into anime again after 13 years! ART OF WAR would like to hold a special sale to celebrate this good news.
Especially for people who just start to collect Berserk figures, “Mini Berserk Figure Vol. 5- Hawksoldiers (The Golden Age)” is a perfect item you should not miss.

Sale Period: from now until the end of December, 2010

They have a few things for sale, but their in stock merchandise is slim pickings to begin with.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 10, 2010, 04:48:16 AM
Nothing new, but I figured it warranted posting. This is from AOW's main english page:

Berserk Anime- Special Sale

Berserk will be made into anime again after 13 years! ART OF WAR would like to hold a special sale to celebrate this good news.
Especially for people who just start to collect Berserk figures, “Mini Berserk Figure Vol. 5- Hawksoldiers (The Golden Age)” is a perfect item you should not miss.

Sale Period: from now until the end of December, 2010

They have a few things for sale, but their in stock merchandise is slim pickings to begin with.

When was it posted? If after the TV ads, it becomes extremely interesting (since they say "...will be made...").
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Skull Knight on October 10, 2010, 06:46:20 AM
Not HD, but HQ enough for decent full screen:

CM 01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdoKk1z4mUQ)
CM 02 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-obs9Fhzg)
CM 03 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y64guztEThk)
CM 04 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7biHOT2Dek)
CM 05 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3QsfdPSW2g)

I appreciate the reply, but those are pretty much the same quality (and file type) as the others. I guess that's the best we will have for now  :judo: (I was hoping someone from Japan would have recorded the trailers from the TV Broadcast and uploaded it on the net in High Def. avi file...)

Anyway I guess I should consider myself lucky that they posted these on the official website at all, since they could've just broadcast it on Japan TV only.

I'm still very excited about this new anime project, sure maybe there are a few discrepancies between it and the manga (which have already been pointed out) but I'm not going to nitpick.  I think this is going to be really good.  I always suspected there was a reason for Miura's extended breaks over the past couple years!  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nirvana on October 10, 2010, 07:11:18 AM
When was it posted? If after the TV ads, it becomes extremely interesting (since they say "...will be made...").

Sometime the night before I posted it, which would be after the TV ads, within the last 24 hours or so. I've been hawking their site waiting to see their Serpico statue(s) sell out or all get "few pieces remaining" next to them.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 10, 2010, 08:06:01 AM
I always suspected there was a reason for Miura's extended breaks over the past couple years!  :ubik:

I doubt that most of the breaks in publication were due to working on the anime project. My guess is they were mainly devoted to the merging of the worlds and the upcoming events in Elfhelm. It's possible some of the time was spent advising the anime team, but I imagine most of the project is outside his control (which is usually the case for anime adaptations of ongoing manga).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 10, 2010, 08:17:21 AM
You would hope it might be something from the new issue of Young Animal.

Seems that we'll have to wait for the next issue (#21, released on October 22).

sure maybe there are a few discrepancies between it and the manga

That's quite the understatement.

When was it posted? If after the TV ads, it becomes extremely interesting (since they say "...will be made...").

I doubt that AOW has any information that we don't, so no actually, I don't think this is interesting in any way. It's just an attempt on their part to sell some of their old stock.

I doubt that most of the breaks in publication were due to working on the anime project. My guess is they were mainly devoted to the merging of the worlds and the upcoming events in Elfhelm. It's possible some of the time was spent advising the anime team, but I imagine most of the project is outside his control (which is usually the case for anime adaptations of ongoing manga).

I agree.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on October 10, 2010, 12:47:59 PM
I doubt that AOW has any information that we don't, so no actually, I don't think this is interesting in any way. It's just an attempt on their part to sell some of their old stock.

I don't know much about business in Japan, so that may be the case. If it was a western country, they would already have been negotiating new merchandising deals for a project like this (assuming it's larger than just the ads, of course), and AOW would probably be at work preparing for a spike in demand.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NotWaifuMaterial on October 10, 2010, 04:54:00 PM
A bit late, but fucking fat fuckity fuck, I'm so damn excited for this. :ubik: I need to catch up with Berserk now; neglecting it to let the episodes build up has been torture, but these news just DESERVE some kind of celebration.

The collectible figurines look orgasmic too; such a shame they're limited editions.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BloodTalon on October 11, 2010, 01:48:16 AM
Seems that we'll have to wait for the next issue (#21, released on October 22).

Dick move and very aggravating.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Johnstantine on October 11, 2010, 03:44:32 AM
Dick move and very aggravating.

Get used to it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 11, 2010, 05:13:57 AM
To their credit it was never announced that there'd be info in a specific issue. It just seemed logical that it'd be the one coming right after the commercials.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on October 11, 2010, 06:48:15 AM
It also makes sense that they'd want to pair such information with the next issue containing Berserk. If they're actually going to give us any information, that is. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Danat on October 11, 2010, 08:51:19 AM
According to the information I've found (maybe illegal), YA 22 oct doesnt contain any berserk news.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on October 11, 2010, 08:55:54 AM
According to the information I've found (maybe illegal), YA 22 oct doesnt contain any berserk news.
The source that says it is in that issue is the official YA Berserk twitter though. Guess your sources was illegal. :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Danat on October 11, 2010, 09:04:48 AM
Okay then. Something more official: http://www.younganimal.com/
Look at the top-left image of next YA issue. First page doesnt have any "ベルセルク" in it. Could that mean there wouldnt be any Berserk news inside?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 11, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
Okay then. Something more official: http://www.younganimal.com/
Look at the top-left image of next YA issue. First page doesnt have any "ベルセルク" in it. Could that mean there wouldnt be any Berserk news inside?

That's last week's issue, #20. As you can see written under it, it was released on October 8. Episode 316 will be published in issue #21, released on October 22. (http://www.younganimal.com/magazine/next.html)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Danat on October 11, 2010, 09:19:06 AM
That's last week's issue, #20. As you can see written under it, it was released on October 8. Episode 316 will be published in issue #21, released on October 22. (http://www.younganimal.com/magazine/next.html)
hmm
in the pink circle there are numbers:
Quote
2010.10.22
No.20
330
kinda weird that according to your post those numbers mean "next issue release date + current issue number" instead of "current issue release date + current issue number". Still that makes more sense considering twitter news. Oh well, FALSE ALARM  :guts:.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 11, 2010, 09:23:59 AM
kinda weird that according to your post those numbers mean "next issue release date + current issue number" instead of "current issue release date + current issue number".

That's how it's always been.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 11, 2010, 10:42:42 PM
Would be nice if they released some more information. Like at least confirming that Studio 4c is doing the animation.

Unfortunately the Studio's only admitted future scheduled release is Thundercats in 2011 (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0041113/)
And their latest post on the Studio 4c topic page is something about hiring CG staff, with an April 2011 date attached. They had a similar ad in July, with the same April 2011 date. Would be nice if it was for Berserk.. but it's more likely to be for Thundercats.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: krec99 on October 17, 2010, 12:59:45 PM
Hopefully we hear some news soon, would love to see Berserk animated again.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Lauro on October 17, 2010, 05:58:15 PM
Can't wait till they make a real trailer. D:
These teasers are making me restless.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 20, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
Miura's comment in this week's issue of Young Animal mentions the anime. He says that "For people not yet in high school it will be the first Berserk anime."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on October 20, 2010, 01:12:07 PM
Miura's comment in this week's issue of Young Animal mentions the anime. He says that "For people not yet in high school it will be the first Berserk anime."

So, I'm guessing that's pretty much confirmation we're getting more than 15 second shorts? All we need now is a little more idea of what form it will take. Either way, it's positive news.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 20, 2010, 01:27:53 PM
So, I'm guessing that's pretty much confirmation we're getting more than 15 second shorts?

Well we already knew that. If you were still worried then yeah, you can take it as a confirmation. We still have yet to get any concrete information about what shape the project will take though. Patience is a virtue, right? :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: jackson_hurley on October 20, 2010, 02:16:03 PM
I hate virtues sometimes! haha
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on October 20, 2010, 02:44:29 PM
Miura's comment in this week's issue of Young Animal mentions the anime. He says that "For people not yet in high school it will be the first Berserk anime."

Haha, now I really feel old. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: krec99 on October 20, 2010, 07:48:27 PM
nice to get a little confirmation i'll take anything at this point im hoping for a series of berserk that we havent seen hope they will stick to the manga
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Saephon on October 20, 2010, 07:59:26 PM
Honestly, I think I'll be content with whatever comes out. I never once expected to see more animated Berserk, so I'm happy as is.  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: aksaC on October 22, 2010, 03:53:08 PM
Wow! I haven't checked here in awhile. Seeing Berserk animated again is kinda blowing my mind! I thought Miura's world would pretty much B&W from here on in. :isidro:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: BloodTalon on October 22, 2010, 04:51:12 PM
Except for the making us feel old part, that's great news. Thanks you for the info, Aaz.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Blaze of Glory on October 22, 2010, 06:12:39 PM
Miura you jerk, I'm 19 man, I'm still a spring chicken.  :guts:

Other then that I am so goddamn elated.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on October 22, 2010, 06:34:59 PM
Helllo again everyone!  I'm back. :guts:

Miura's comment in this week's issue of Young Animal mentions the anime. He says that "For people not yet in high school it will be the first Berserk anime."

Thanks Aaz for the update!!!  Does the YA issue mention anything else anime related?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on October 22, 2010, 06:44:02 PM
Thanks Aaz for the update!!!  Does the YA issue mention anything else anime related?

Did I mention anything else? What do you think? :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on October 22, 2010, 06:50:53 PM
Did I mention anything else? What do you think? :iva:

It's called wishful thinking! :slan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Syaoran on October 23, 2010, 05:11:42 AM
Really looking forward to this; the short teaser trailers hurt the soul
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on October 24, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
Just woke up from a dream, it was wonderful yet awful at the same time. I'm having a hard time remembering but i was somewhere outside my residence with my laptop and found on youtube New Berserk Anime Part 1 or something along those lines. I watched a bit though i can`t remember exactly what it covered...Griffith for sure was in a good portion and it pretty much blew my mind. I went onto SK.net (in my dream still) going through this thread looking for links/news/more parts but to no avail. Woke up later and realized why.....

 :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on October 27, 2010, 10:45:21 PM
haha wow. Im really late to the party on this one... funny thing is I have never seen these commercials at all... wonder when and what channel they appeared on. I watch the shit out of Animex but never saw it.  :carcus: In any case, looks like some delicious stuff!  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on October 27, 2010, 10:58:23 PM
haha wow. Im really late to the party on this one... funny thing is I have never seen these commercials at all... wonder when and what channel they appeared on. I watch the shit out of Animex but never saw it.  :carcus: In any case, looks like some delicious stuff!  :ubik:
They aired between midnight and 1 a.m. in Japan.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on October 27, 2010, 11:39:03 PM
They aired between midnight and 1 a.m. in Japan.
Thanks for the info! That also explains why I didnt see them. I was busy playing FF14  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Syaoran on November 10, 2010, 08:02:06 PM
Well however you guys keep track this is informative
http://berserk2010.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on November 10, 2010, 08:08:53 PM
Well however you guys keep track this is informative
http://berserk2010.blogspot.com/
Really? Oct 12: "In a desperate attempt to give this blog some meaningful content..."

I couldn't find anything in the blog that we haven't already discussed in detail here.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on November 11, 2010, 06:04:07 AM
New tweet: berserk_project
  
明日発売のヤングアニマルに「ベルセルク」掲載です!!よろしくお願いします!!

""Berserk" will be published in the Young Animal on sale tomorrow ! ! Thank you! !"

At least they're using the Twitter account to promote the manga!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Chaos on November 13, 2010, 12:18:49 AM
New tweet: berserk_project
  
明日発売のヤングアニマルに「ベルセルク」掲載です!!よろしくお願いします!!

""Berserk" will be published in the Young Animal on sale tomorrow ! ! Thank you! !"

At least they're using the Twitter account to promote the manga!

Yeah, they did it with the last release, too. It's pretty sweet, indeed  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: LoveHerMadly on November 23, 2010, 01:28:06 PM
Really? Oct 12: "In a desperate attempt to give this blog some meaningful content..."

I couldn't find anything in the blog that we haven't already discussed in detail here.

True, but it's far easier to peruse when it's all catalogued over a dozen or so blog posts. When I first stumbled back onto these forums a couple weeks ago, shocked and delighted to hear about a new anime, I was trying to hurriedly read through 24 pages of posts, only some of which were expressing specific data. But when I found that blog it took me two minutes to learn: 1) The project was confirmed with no release date. 2) There was a Twitter account posting morsels of information. 3) There are five teasers, and here are their links.

Not to advocate for short attention spans, but I wanted to figure it all out as quick as possible. And as a side note, and mayhaps I was beaten to this, but could this be why Miura has been slower than ever in volume releasing? Fulfilling a producer or consulting role over the last couple years to insure this project worked out to his satisfaction? Though I'm quite partial to the original series, but as a separate entity to the manga, a reimagining (a welcome one in some ways, it dropped the fluff in v9 and 11).

And thanks to everyone in the topic for fleshing out the story. Me and Excited are now equal concepts.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on November 23, 2010, 02:02:25 PM
Not to advocate for short attention spans, but I wanted to figure it all out as quick as possible.

That's pretty much what you're doing though. That and latecomers. Also, the information that the project is confirmed is in the thread title, and the links to the commercials are in the first post. As for the twitter account I mentioned it in the 7th post on the 1st page. No harm done.

And as a side note, and mayhaps I was beaten to this, but could this be why Miura has been slower than ever in volume releasing?

You were beaten of course, and my opinion on this is that it's not very likely to be the reason. I believe Miura's been busy mapping out the complex future developments the story has in stock. The anime project no doubt took (is taking) some of his time as well, but only a fraction.

Though I'm quite partial to the original series, but as a separate entity to the manga, a reimagining (a welcome one in some ways, it dropped the fluff in v9 and 11).

You don't want to get started on this.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: LoveHerMadly on November 23, 2010, 02:22:01 PM
That's pretty much what you're doing though. That and latecomers. Also, the information that the project is confirmed is in the thread title, and the links to the commercials are in the first post. As for the twitter account I mentioned it in the 7th post on the 1st page. No harm done.

Ah. I started on the last page and worked my way back. Though point one was mainly about the lack of release date, but I should have known a topic on SK with the word "confirmed" wouldn't have been allowed 24 pages of life on this Earth if it weren't true. It's sometimes throwing how well moderated this site is.

Quote
You don't want to get started on this.

That's an odd thing to say. I'm not arguing against factual evidence, because there isn't any to be used in such a discussion. I was only expressing a preference in passing. Is that not kosher?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on November 23, 2010, 02:24:26 PM
That's an odd thing to say. I'm not arguing against factual evidence, because there isn't any to be used in such a discussion. I was only expressing a preference in passing. Is that not kosher?

I think you're confusing "fluff" with essential character development.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on November 23, 2010, 02:27:45 PM
That's an odd thing to say. I'm not arguing against factual evidence, because there isn't any to be used in such a discussion. I was only expressing a preference in passing. Is that not kosher?

I'm saying that the 1997 animation series has many faults (omitted a lot of important things, added several terrible scenes, etc.) and that if we start talking about them we could go on for pages and pages. As for the events of volume 9 and 11, they're tremendously important to the story. I don't see how their omission could possibly be a good thing, especially considering what they were replaced with.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: LoveHerMadly on November 23, 2010, 02:40:28 PM
Very well, it's not my intent to cause a fuss. I just feel that a series which straddles the line between information-dumping and gorgeous exposition got a lot out of the subtly that came from not having Wyald, Silat and other elements that were more about telling us what was going on rather than letting it evolve out of the story organically. Which is why I said "reimagining," because yes they are different characters in the anime. Done now.

Back on topic, there was something I felt I never got a grip on reading these 24 pages: What are these major inconsistencies in the teasers I've heard mentioned? I've only watched them a couple times, and fell for the oldest teaser trailer trick in the book: getting sucked into the music.
Also, dare mo mita koto no nai? "As its never been seen before"?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on November 23, 2010, 02:51:10 PM
I just feel that a series which straddles the line between information-dumping and gorgeous exposition got a lot out of the subtly that came from not having Wyald, Silat and other elements that were more about telling us what was going on rather than letting it evolve out of the story organically. Which is why I said "reimagining," because yes they are different characters in the anime. Done now.

Your sentence doesn't make sense. I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but I hope it's not that the parts of the story that were omitted from the anime weren't "its natural evolution" or something. Not only is that ridiculous but it doesn't even mean anything.

Back on topic, there was something I felt I never got a grip on reading these 24 pages: What are these major inconsistencies in the teasers I've heard mentioned? I've only watched them a couple times, and fell for the oldest teaser trailer trick in the book: getting sucked into the music.
Also, dare mo mita koto no nai? "As its never been seen before"?

Read the thread again more carefully. It's all been discussed in detail.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on November 24, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
Wow I certainly wouldn't call 9 and 11 "fluff," in fact I found both volumes to be extremely important. 9 was loaded with extremely essential character development, honestly that volume made me feel the things that happened later a lot more. And 11 a very important setup for things to come. Oh yeah and an INCREDIBLE BATTLE.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Panicfactorx on December 06, 2010, 04:03:20 AM
The parts of the manga I want to see animated - Golden Age, and the first time we see Schierke summoning the four elemental kings. I would like to see the whole story though, beginning to end. Its a shame some random multi million dollar company doesn't just say "hey this looks like fun! lets fund this show and make it good."

Anyway I'm excited. This gives me a new show to look forward to watching on a every-once in a while basis.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on December 06, 2010, 05:36:11 PM
i think it would be awesome of them to update their twitter and release little tidbits for the new anime during the hiatuses between episodes  :serpico:

Juts some wishful thinking...but it would be smart of them since it would keep more average readers attention through the long breaks and make the fans happy, im sure they could release a couple more screen caps or short 4 second clips .

 
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on December 06, 2010, 06:35:58 PM
i think it would be awesome of them to update their twitter and release little tidbits for the new anime during the hiatuses between episodes  :serpico:

Juts some wishful thinking...but it would be smart of them since it would keep more average readers attention through the long breaks and make the fans happy, im sure they could release a couple more screen caps or short 4 second clips .
 
That presumes that the right hand knows what the left hand is doing in production between the manga and the (still not yet confirmed) "anime."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on December 07, 2010, 04:03:11 AM
the (still not yet confirmed) "anime."

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/noanimemusashi.jpg)

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/noanimeguts.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 07, 2010, 09:23:32 AM
the (still not yet confirmed) "anime."

I would say that it's been confirmed. We just don't know anything other than that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on December 07, 2010, 10:11:54 AM
I would say that it's been confirmed.

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/yesanimeaaz.jpg)

Skullmas comes early this year.


Photoshop phun aside, discretion and your word are basically the only things keeping me from writing this off as a cheap publicity stunt.

Either way, good job YA!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 07, 2010, 12:39:13 PM
Photoshop phun aside, discretion and your word are basically the only things keeping me from writing this off as a cheap publicity stunt.

Oh, you don't have to take my word for it, but Miura's (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.msg191698#msg191698), however...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on December 07, 2010, 02:19:41 PM
Whoa, whoa! There's no need for controversy. All I meant was that nothing has been formally announced by a production company, and yes we don't have any details. All we have are commercials and a few blurbs from people who would know about these things (Miura and whoever at YA that's running the Berserk twitter). Will it be something that will air on television? Will it be a direct-to-market OAV? Will it be coming in 2011 or 2015? Will it be a WEB EXCLUSIVE online anime?

Nothing's known other than something will be animated, eventually, by someone, about Berserk. Hopefully.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on December 07, 2010, 08:27:11 PM
Oh, you don't have to take my word for it, but Miura's (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.msg191698#msg191698), however...

I remember that, but the devil's advocate in me wonders if he's referring to, perhaps jokingly, the commercial films themselves? :troll:

Whoa, whoa! There's no need for controversy. All I meant was that nothing has been formally announced by a production company, and yes we don't have any details. All we have are commercials and a few blurbs from people who would know about these things (Miura and whoever at YA that's running the Berserk twitter). Will it be something that will air on television? Will it be a direct-to-market OAV? Will it be coming in 2011 or 2015? Will it be a WEB EXCLUSIVE online anime? Nothing's known other than something will be animated, eventually, by someone, about Berserk. Hopefully.

Or, was it animated and we already saw it!? :carcus:


Anyway, I'm too much an optimist to actually believe nothing is supposed to come of this, but the lack of an official press release with some of the basic details Walter mentions is frustrating, and makes the project seem far away and unreal.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: scroto on December 26, 2010, 12:36:43 PM
The berserk twitter feed just posted a few new tweets. I can't make hide nor hair of them other than January 8th 2011 being important!  :isidro:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 26, 2010, 02:01:05 PM
The berserk twitter feed just posted a few new tweets. I can't make hide nor hair of them other than January 8th 2011 being important!  :isidro:

Well there's not much more to be said. They apologize for not having updated in a while, then say there'll be an important announcement on January 8th. The next message says that Berserk will "start to move" in 2011 with something other than the TV CMs. Last one tells people who have inquiries to check out the official website.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on December 26, 2010, 06:14:33 PM
January 8? That's 2 days after ma' birfday! This better be huuuuge news. I'm starting to feel a little impatient. I hope it's not another announcement regarding TV commercials. As cool as they are, I'd like a little more solid news regarding the actual "project."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Draculoid on December 26, 2010, 09:23:32 PM
Considering he said it was "significant news" I doubt that it would simply be another CM or the announcement of more.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on December 26, 2010, 10:27:07 PM
Considering he said it was "significant news" I doubt that it would simply be another CM or the announcement of more.

I wouldn't doubt it. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on December 26, 2010, 11:33:16 PM
January 8? That's 2 days after ma' birfday! This better be huuuuge news. I'm starting to feel a little impatient. I hope it's not another announcement regarding TV commercials. As cool as they are, I'd like a little more solid news regarding the actual "project."

I'll second this and raise you one.  I wouldn't mind having the finished blu-ray product sitting in my lap right now.  :guts:  Hopefully we'll hear some exciting news come the 8th.  Patience is a virtue!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 27, 2010, 11:03:32 AM
Two new messages on the Twitter account, but nothing special announced. Guy's just rambling and acting all surprised that his announcements get responses from all over the world.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on December 27, 2010, 11:25:07 AM
If this turns out to be a new anime series, I hope they won't focus too much on the Golden Age. I know some manga purists weren't happy with the old series, but for all intents and purposes it got the job done and I enjoyed it. I'd prefer they put their time and energy into animating a new arc.

Is there any one arc people would prefer over the rest?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 27, 2010, 12:23:51 PM
I know some manga purists weren't happy with the old series, but for all intents and purposes it got the job done and I enjoyed it. I'd prefer they put their time and energy into animating a new arc.

It doesn't take a purist to be aware of the many flaws and failings of the first TV series, but that doesn't mean anyone would want another series to just cover the Golden Age arc. Besides it's not like the material we've seen so far is exempt of problems, far from it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2010, 02:13:05 PM
The guy posting the Berserk_Twitter really comes across as an excitable moron. That could be Google Translate's fault though.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on December 27, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
Is there any one arc people would prefer over the rest?
I always wanted to see the troll story, through Guts VS Slan, through Guts getting the Berserker Armor through Guts VS Grunbeld...

...Imagine Griffith VS Giant Ganishka animated.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on December 27, 2010, 08:01:36 PM
It doesn't take a purist to be aware of the many flaws and failings of the first TV series

I know it had its problems outside of that, but the main criticism of the TV series is that it wasn't faithful to Miura's original work.

but that doesn't mean anyone would want another series to just cover the Golden Age arc.

I never said they would and yet I wouldn't rule it out.

Besides it's not like the material we've seen so far is exempt of problems, far from it.

You'll probably redirect me, but can you elaborate?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 27, 2010, 08:42:55 PM
I know it had its problems outside of that, but the main criticism of the TV series is that it wasn't faithful to Miura's original work.

And you don't have to be a purist to take issue with the drastic changes that took place in the TV series.

I never said they would and yet I wouldn't rule it out.

You can't have it both ways... But I don't even see the point of discussing this since the CMs feature scenes from 3 different arcs, including the Golden Age.

You'll probably redirect me, but can you elaborate?

Read the thread.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on December 28, 2010, 08:55:34 AM
And you don't have to be a purist to take issue with the drastic changes that took place in the TV series.

You do if it stops you from appreciating the TV series on its own merit.

You can't have it both ways... But I don't even see the point of discussing this since the CMs feature scenes from 3 different arcs, including the Golden Age.

I said I didn't want the new project to focus "too much" on the Golden Age.

Read the thread.

Right.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 28, 2010, 09:36:18 AM
You do if it stops you from appreciating the TV series on its own merit.

Says who? The TV series' only merit aside from its soundtrack is its story, which is arguably and undeniably inferior to the source material in every possible way and to a rather great extent. So no, you don't have to be a "purist" to be unsatisfied with it.

I said I didn't want the new project to focus "too much" on the Golden Age.

Uh huh. You want them to focus on it, but not too much. Right.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on December 28, 2010, 11:11:32 AM
I always wanted to see the troll story, through Guts VS Slan, through Guts getting the Berserker Armor through Guts VS Grunbeld...

...Imagine Griffith VS Giant Ganishka animated.

Now this is all that i don't want in a new series, and what i fear that most of the fanbase is salivating for - animated versus matches.

Is there any one arc people would prefer over the rest?

Besides the Golden Age, my preference goes to the Conviction arc, 14/15 up to 21. And bring on Susumu to score it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on December 28, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
You got me wrong, sir. I simply noted the "VS" parts as recognizable story points to indicate which parts I'd like to see animated. Yes, the fights I mentioned are AWESOME. And I'd love to see them animated. But please, don't pass me off as some meathead.

That's the part of the story where we meet Schierke, and Guts' new group really becomes Guts' new friends. Getting through that series of events is what solidified the group as THE group to me. They had to deal with the trolls / ogre / kelpie AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER had to rescue Casca / Farnese THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER returned to see Flora's home set ablaze by this new Band of the Falcon THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER Guts gets the Berserker Armor. It was an intense marathon of craziness. Both physically and emotionally, there is a LOT of stuff that happened to the group.

So, excuuuuuuuse me for not elaborating.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on December 28, 2010, 04:16:20 PM
I'm pretty bummed that after months we haven't seen one piece of substantiated evidence that there's a new anime series in production. Everything concerning a new anime has immediately been linked to the CMs followed by these little teasings that seem intentionally ambiguous. So whatever the outcome is, fuck you for doing this to the fans Young Animal.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on December 28, 2010, 04:20:47 PM
So, excuuuuuuuse me for not elaborating.


So whatever the outcome is, fuck you for doing this to the fans Young Animal.
Aw, there's no need for the F-Bomb in this situation. I admit the lack of information is a little annoying and downright strange, but I don't think it's enough to warrant anger or hate. We'll get a real announcement soon enough. I actually look back fondly on the CMs, even if that's all we get in the end. Those were good times :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on December 28, 2010, 05:34:45 PM
(Funny Link Video)
haha I'm glad you got what I was going for there.

I gotta admit, I would be a little bummed if the new project was covering the Golden Age arc, but then again, if there was promise of more beyond that, I wouldn't mind at all.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on December 28, 2010, 06:58:21 PM
I'm really hoping Susumu Hirasawa will return to his throne and compose the next soundtrack. I've been a devoted fan of his work since the TV series and even when listening to his regular tracks I can't help but feel attached to Berserk. For me, it's become synonymous with the franchise itself.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on December 28, 2010, 07:54:50 PM
You got me wrong, sir. I simply noted the "VS" parts as recognizable story points to indicate which parts I'd like to see animated. Yes, the fights I mentioned are AWESOME. And I'd love to see them animated. But please, don't pass me off as some meathead.

That's the part of the story where we meet Schierke, and Guts' new group really becomes Guts' new friends. Getting through that series of events is what solidified the group as THE group to me. They had to deal with the trolls / ogre / kelpie AND IMMEDIATELY AFTER had to rescue Casca / Farnese THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER returned to see Flora's home set ablaze by this new Band of the Falcon THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER Guts gets the Berserker Armor. It was an intense marathon of craziness. Both physically and emotionally, there is a LOT of stuff that happened to the group.

So, excuuuuuuuse me for not elaborating.

We can't forget that Griffith and Guts are the most important characters in this story. I don't know about you, but i believe all the events up to the reincarnation of Griffith are more substantial for those who only saw the tv show (winning both fans and casual viewers), and wouldn't it be more appropriate to introduce the new group rather than meeting them already on their journey? Besides, there's no major drama during the "troll saga", no payoff or way to end the show than the group going on their way again. Putting aside the armor, it's just "middle of the road" Berserk. All the events before and after are way more juicy. The situations you mention wouldn't work for an anime show as a whole. It sounds more like fan service to me with a bunch of new characters thrown around, rather than a cohesive narrative, which i think is the most important factor - not just animate some episodes we like.
I'd prefer if they fill in the major holes between the first anime and the manga in a couple of episodes and carry on with the story where the anime left. Ending with the ceremony. I can see it now, Skullknight's finger pointing, Guts face in awe and cut to Griffith. The end. Full circle. Another great cliffhanger paving the way for a season 3 eh.

I'm really hoping Susumu Hirasawa will return to his throne and compose the next soundtrack. I've been a devoted fan of his work since the TV series and even when listening to his regular tracks I can't help but feel attached to Berserk. For me, it's become synonymous with the franchise itself.

Since he has contributed to all other Berserk related medium, i'd be surprised if he wasn't on board with this project.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on December 28, 2010, 07:56:03 PM
Aw, there's no need for the F-Bomb in this situation. I admit the lack of information is a little annoying and downright strange, but I don't think it's enough to warrant anger or hate. We'll get a real announcement soon enough. I actually look back fondly on the CMs, even if that's all we get in the end. Those were good times :sad:

 :farnese: I'm sorry.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on December 28, 2010, 10:53:56 PM
I'm pretty bummed that after months we haven't seen one piece of substantiated evidence that there's a new anime series in production. Everything concerning a new anime has immediately been linked to the CMs followed by these little teasings that seem intentionally ambiguous. So whatever the outcome is, fuck you for doing this to the fans Young Animal.
(http://www.legaljuice.com/f-bomb%20fuck%20fing%20f-word%20f%20word.jpg)

Take Cover!! :guts:
I'd prefer if they fill in the major holes between the first anime and the manga in a couple of episodes and carry on with the story where the anime left. Ending with the ceremony. I can see it now, Skullknight's finger pointing, Guts face in awe and cut to Griffith. The end. Full circle. Another great cliffhanger paving the way for a season 3 eh.

Since he has contributed to all other Berserk related medium, i'd be surprised if he wasn't on board with this project.

This is the direction I'd like to see them take as well.  I think you'd be surprised by how many people just watch the anime and think "Well shit, that ending was balls" starting where the last one left off sounds like a good idea to me.  That would be a seriously great way to end a season.  I hope this project turns out to be a financial success for them.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on December 29, 2010, 04:13:40 AM
I liked the ending on the old anime. made me feel crappy all day the next day in school  :sad: but it was cool because it wasnt the same old, good guy wins routine.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on December 29, 2010, 08:05:29 AM
We can't forget that Griffith and Guts are the most important characters in this story. I don't know about you, but i believe all the events up to the reincarnation of Griffith are more substantial for those who only saw the tv show (winning both fans and casual viewers), and wouldn't it be more appropriate to introduce the new group rather than meeting them already on their journey? Besides, there's no major drama during the "troll saga", no payoff or way to end the show than the group going on their way again. Putting aside the armor, it's just "middle of the road" Berserk. All the events before and after are way more juicy. The situations you mention wouldn't work for an anime show as a whole. It sounds more like fan service to me with a bunch of new characters thrown around, rather than a cohesive narrative, which i think is the most important factor - not just animate some episodes we like.
I'd prefer if they fill in the major holes between the first anime and the manga in a couple of episodes and carry on with the story where the anime left. Ending with the ceremony. I can see it now, Skullknight's finger pointing, Guts face in awe and cut to Griffith. The end. Full circle. Another great cliffhanger paving the way for a season 3 eh.
Oh, I didn't mean to say those are the *only* parts I want to see animated. Now, that would just be silly. Obviously the material you mentioned would have to be done. I'm simply stating what I want to see animated as part of a new project. It's one of my favorite parts.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on December 29, 2010, 09:39:26 AM
I liked the ending on the old anime. made me feel crappy all day the next day in school  :sad: but it was cool because it wasnt the same old, good guy wins routine.

I find it funny how some people watched the series and cried: "Is that it!? Does Guts survive!?"
Umm....watch the first episode?  :guts:

It was a really tragic cliffhanger to finish on, though. I assumed they left it that way so people would rush out to buy the manga and find out what happened next. Too bad we never got to see Skull Knight gatecrash the party...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on December 29, 2010, 10:00:52 AM
I assumed they left it that way so people would rush out to buy the manga and find out what happened next.

Mission Accomplished.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 29, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
more substantial for those who only saw the tv show (winning both fans and casual viewers)

I don't think you're reasoning properly here. This new animation isn't going to be "season 2". What we've seen so far seems to indicate that they're taking a fresh start, which is the best thing they could do. As for the casual viewers that you speak of, if they're truly casual, they haven't seen the show in 13 years. Lastly, like I mentioned recently, we've seen scenes from 3 different arcs, including the Millennium Falcon arc. It's kind of odd that you would say that Guts & Griffith are the most important characters to justify a focus on the Conviction arc, considering Griffith is almost completely absent from it until the incarnation.

Besides, there's no major drama during the "troll saga", no payoff or way to end the show than the group going on their way again. Putting aside the armor, it's just "middle of the road" Berserk. All the events before and after are way more juicy.

I'd like to remind you that the Millennium Falcon arc ends with the advent of Falconia, which is about the "juiciest" thing in the series. As for the events that took place from volume 23 to 27, I can't agree that they contain less drama or "juice" than say Jill's story or the life of destitute people in Albion. They feature some of the most important moments of the story, including the introduction of Guts' new companions. If I had to call something "middle of the road", then it'd be the Lost Children chapter.

Which isn't to say that the Conviction arc should be "skipped" or anything, but I don't think one part of the story is more deserving of being animated than another.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: jackson_hurley on December 29, 2010, 09:46:34 PM
Schnoz needs to be animated!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on December 30, 2010, 12:30:27 AM
Schnoz needs to be animated!
Ask and you shall receive ---->  :schnoz:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on December 30, 2010, 02:46:23 AM
I don't think you're reasoning properly here. This new animation isn't going to be "season 2". What we've seen so far seems to indicate that they're taking a fresh start, which is the best thing they could do. As for the casual viewers that you speak of, if they're truly casual, they haven't seen the show in 13 years. Lastly, like I mentioned recently, we've seen scenes from 3 different arcs, including the Millennium Falcon arc. It's kind of odd that you would say that Guts & Griffith are the most important characters to justify a focus on the Conviction arc, considering Griffith is almost completely absent from it until the incarnation.

I'd like to remind you that the Millennium Falcon arc ends with the advent of Falconia, which is about the "juiciest" thing in the series. As for the events that took place from volume 23 to 27, I can't agree that they contain less drama or "juice" than say Jill's story or the life of destitute people in Albion. They feature some of the most important moments of the story, including the introduction of Guts' new companions. If I had to call something "middle of the road", then it'd be the Lost Children chapter.

Which isn't to say that the Conviction arc should be "skipped" or anything, but I don't think one part of the story is more deserving of being animated than another.

I agree that the Lost Children chapter is quite "middle of the road". As much as the troll part, in my opinion. As for the absence of Griffith, i was just arguing for the sake of continuity. But as you point out, this ain't no season 2, so they can just recap the whole story in the beggining and start wherever they please, could be at the point where Guts gets the armor. Then carry the show till the end of the Falconia chapter, which i agree, is as "juiciest" as it gets.
I think, if they want to end the anime with as much impact as possible, the reincarnation and the beggining of the new world would be the most obvious choices. My preference goes for the first.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on December 30, 2010, 03:33:35 PM
I don't consider any part of Berserk to be "middle of the road". If they're going to do a new series, I hope they start at the beginning and everything that follows up until an appropriate stopping point, whether that's Griffith's incarnation or the appearance of Falconia. It's all gold to me. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on December 30, 2010, 03:48:59 PM
Just for info, there's been quite a few new tweets on http://twitter.com/berserk_project (http://twitter.com/berserk_project), but nothing worth mentioning. The guy's trying his best to hype up the announcement that'll take place next Saturday and otherwise just replies to random people's comments as if it were his personal Twitter account.

I don't consider any part of Berserk to be "middle of the road". If they're going to do a new series, I hope they start at the beginning and everything that follows up until an appropriate stopping point, whether that's Griffith's incarnation or the appearance of Falconia. It's all gold to me. :guts:

Now that's what I like to read.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Kavaron on December 31, 2010, 05:35:55 PM
OK here is my theory.

First of all Miura said recently that the Manga is around 70% done right now (some pro here posted this) so my guess is that they will start the anime from chapter one and do the remake. But when the remake finishes we will see more seasons which will follow the manga till the end! That is the best possible scenario for the fans.

I believe this because the trailer shows Skullknight which means they could follow the manga 100% this time in order to keep the anime series going for many years!

So since the first volume was published in 1990 then it took 20 years for 70-75%. for the remaining 30% the anime would have 5 years cushion not to catch up with the manga.

I think they can make it... start the anime from chapter one and by the time the manga finishes the anime series will finish at the same time!

Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on December 31, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
Keep dreaming Kav. Also, it's episode, not chapter.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on December 31, 2010, 07:22:07 PM
With some luck we'll get some anime spin-off movies too!

Serpico's Big Adventure: The Princess of the Fire Kingdom and The Deadly Twin Demons!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 01, 2011, 01:49:29 PM
First of all Miura said recently that the Manga is around 70% done right now (some pro here posted this) [...] So since the first volume was published in 1990 then it took 20 years for 70-75%. for the remaining 30% the anime would have 5 years cushion not to catch up with the manga.

Miura said it was around 60-70% done, and then warned that it was subject to change. Be careful not to stretch the facts to make them fit what you wish for. Besides you should note that the current release schedule is slower than what it used to be. So basically a perfect, simultaneous run is just not going to happen.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Kavaron on January 02, 2011, 06:11:38 PM
Miura said it was around 60-70% done, and then warned that it was subject to change. Be careful not to stretch the facts to make them fit what you wish for. Besides you should note that the current release schedule is slower than what it used to be. So basically a perfect, simultaneous run is just not going to happen.

You just ruined my dream...  :judo:

I still believe one day we will see the whole series animated though.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 02, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
I still believe one day we will see the whole series animated though.

That's the spirit, for now just rejoice that something is being done at all.

On the twitter side, the berserk_project account's updates are still of no interest, although the guy did mention that he didn't know at what time exactly the announcement would take place on the 8th. The latest update was in French and was supposedly sent from Paris... Seems completely random to me but whatever. It wishes all fans of "Berserk project" (just fans of Berserk itself wouldn't have cut it I guess :schierke:) a happy new year.

To be honest I wish whoever is managing this was being more professional about it. It feels so amateurish that it's kind of embarrassing.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: iamdani on January 03, 2011, 12:14:05 AM
Folks hoping for a new series may be disappointed. =\
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on January 03, 2011, 05:13:43 PM
Folks hoping for a new series may be disappointed. =\

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 03, 2011, 05:43:54 PM
Why do you say that?

Recent rumors say that it's a full-length movie.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 03, 2011, 06:02:45 PM
Recent rumors* say that it's a full-length movie.
*Citation needed. (http://images.quickblogcast.com/2/4/0/8/2/137047-128042/800px_JimmyWalesJI5.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 03, 2011, 07:36:25 PM
*Citation needed. (http://images.quickblogcast.com/2/4/0/8/2/137047-128042/800px_JimmyWalesJI5.jpg)

Oh, sorry. I only visit that neogaf thread since the guy that leaked the pictures posts there: http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=25172566&postcount=578

The source of that moderator's rumor is most likely 2ch since that's where his videogame rumors usually come from, but who knows.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 03, 2011, 07:49:50 PM
I'd be down with a movie. Hell, I'd be down with many movies.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 03, 2011, 07:56:22 PM
A movie? :|
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 03, 2011, 08:53:55 PM
A new Tweet to Berserk_Project indicates it might be something different, guys. Not a movie at all.

http://twitter.com/#!/aolsier (http://twitter.com/#!/aolsier)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 03, 2011, 08:55:32 PM
I'd be down with a movie. Hell, I'd be down with many movies.

I'd be down for some worthwhile official announcements and not just rumors and speculation.

lol Walter.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 03, 2011, 09:26:22 PM
AHHHH, suspense is killlling me!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on January 03, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
I remember a long time ago, way before any of this news came out, we had thread where I think most of us agreed that if there was ever to be a new animation it should be a high quality OVA of the Lost Children Chapter. I still feel like that would be the best bet too. It's a self contained part of the story (chapter) that wouldn’t require the massive task of trying to explain everything in order to animate such an epic story arc like Millenium Falcon Arc, which judging from what we've seen in the commercials, it clearly will not even come close to the manga. I'm almost afraid of how it will look if they were to animate something like Griffiths battle with Ganishka. It won't surpass the manga by a long shot and I for one think that manga + my imagination = the most epic and incredible thing I have ever fucking seen. I don't want that to be distorted by some cheesy animation version of it all. It reminds of Harry Potter. Many years ago as a child I would read the books and imagine how magical and detailed all the characters, settings and events were. Then the movies came out and totally ruined it for me. Not only did they get tons of little annoying things wrong but since the series wasn't even finished yet, I had to try and erase the terrible mental images of everything in my mind when trying to read the new books. And I can't help but think that the author may have also had the movie's version of things in her mind when writing the rest of the books (even if subconsciously). I know it's a totally different medium and I'm not comparing the two at all, but it's just that type situation that I fear. Like Aaz said, ignoring the 1997 Berserk tv show or pretending that it doesn’t exist is a pretty damn good way of separating the two.

Basically all I'm saying is that the only way I think I could ever be satisfied with anime of Berserk is if they just kept it minimal and didn't overextend themselves by trying to animate the main storyline, because Berserk as a whole body of work is simply to long and complicated to pick and choose something that would not only satisfy the manga readers but also the anime only people. That’s why something like the Lost Children Chapter would be perfect IMO.  That’s also why I think the Dreamcast game works better than the ps2 game.  Sure it’s cool seeing certain events in the manga depicted in a video game, but the Dreamcast game works much better because it’s … smaller, I guess, even if it’s only considered semi-cannon or whatever. It’s certainly more interesting because your not sitting there thinking about how much they messed with the manga. The Lost Children Chapter is short enough for them to focus more on the details, and even expand a little and fill it out more with little tidbits of interesting enough content (given Miura’s approval of course).

Anyway that was just a hope of mine and some thoughts I had, sorry for being so long.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on January 03, 2011, 09:34:43 PM
AHHHH, suspense is killlling me!!

 :judo: same. I try to avoid this thread the best I can.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 04, 2011, 07:49:50 AM
:judo: same. I try to avoid this thread the best I can.
i do too

Mission Failed.

I dont really know how I feel about a movie instead of OVA.  :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Deathbringer on January 05, 2011, 06:42:32 AM
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-05/berserk-project-to-be-theatrical-film

So yeah, it's a movie.

Meh. Better than nothing and we can still counting on movie budget as animation is concerned which is a pretty big plus. But if anything else this seems to serve the same purpose as the anime series in the sense that its a glorified advertisement for the manga since the only way i can see this movie working is giving an abridged version of the entire plot. Judging from the trailers where it's jumping from arc to arc, that's probably the case. Then again, i was expecting something along these lines, whether it was a movie or a OAV series. Berserk is almost impossible to properly adapt into anime format and the fact that it's getting a second go it's a pretty big deal in itself.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 05, 2011, 06:55:29 AM
My expectations are now reduced to zero. Fuck it. I'll be surprised if it's nothing more than fan service.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on January 05, 2011, 08:13:07 AM
Cool, i had the opposite effect. My excitement went from 3 to 8 (out 10).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 05, 2011, 08:32:25 AM
I really hope ann misinterpreted this info.  I really hope it's not a feature film.  I want something lonnnnger.  Series please!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 05, 2011, 08:49:32 AM
Then again, i was expecting something along these lines, whether it was a movie or a OAV series. Berserk is almost impossible to properly adapt into anime format and the fact that it's getting a second go it's a pretty big deal in itself.

It couldn't have been a TV series and stayed faithful to the manga anyway (because of censorship), and even as an OAV series it'd have a hard time covering the whole story.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 05, 2011, 09:01:04 AM
If it's a movie then that means they are going to skip around a lot. right?

well, movie or ova, it is Berserk! and that is enough to rejoice about.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 05, 2011, 09:06:56 AM
I am happy.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: SrCraneo on January 05, 2011, 09:43:26 AM
Is this pretty much the final word? I have no idea how the veracity of that announcement should be taken...  :<
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: iamdani on January 05, 2011, 10:49:38 AM
http://yfrog.com/gyfqethj
(http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/zz278/Jexhius/news-berserk.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 05, 2011, 02:43:15 PM
A happy ending! Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 05, 2011, 02:53:09 PM
I have been looking around for info on this and one person said these 'facts':

2011 release
Studio 4°C (Mind Game, Tekkon Street, Genius Party, etc.)
Series of movies adapting the manga from the start
Aims for worldwide market

people are rejoicing across the internet :serpico:

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: thedigitalsin on January 05, 2011, 02:56:10 PM
Apparently this will be more than just one single film, as it's supposed to be the first part of what's supposed to cover "the entire story". 
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on January 05, 2011, 02:59:09 PM
I think it'll be fun. Something's better than nothing, then again, if it's crappy it'll dent the series in a bad way for loyalists.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 05, 2011, 03:05:45 PM
I think it'll be fun. Something's better than nothing, then again, if it's crappy it'll dent the series in a bad way for loyalists.

Nothing the TV series didn't already do, though we might be in for even more drastic cuts. But regardless of this project's quality, there'll always be the manga.

Anyway, adapting the "entire story" is pretty ambitious. I wonder exactly how they're planning to do it (i.e. I hope not by cutting out lots of material).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on January 05, 2011, 04:32:33 PM
Anyway, adapting the "entire story" is pretty ambitious. I wonder exactly how they're planning to do it (i.e. I hope not by cutting out lots of material).

Hopefully they won't cut anything this time around. Whether or not what's in the films will be 100% accurate is another thing (the piece of armor Casca is laying on in one of the clips, and Zodds horns, for example). If one film is released every year or two, it might be possible to cover the entire manga.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 05, 2011, 04:33:43 PM
Anyway, adapting the "entire story" is pretty ambitious. I wonder exactly how they're planning to do it (i.e. I hope not by cutting out lots of material).

I wouldn't be surprised if they do it in the same fashion or at least similar, to Hellsing Ultimate. Annual to biannual releases and no cuts that I can name.
Then again, I also wouldn't be surprised if someone fucks this up.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Deathbringer on January 05, 2011, 05:10:32 PM
Whoa, hold the phone there. The link i provided updated. According to a recent Newtype magazine, this will be a series of movies that will adapt the *entire* manga.

Holy fucking shit. Color me surprised. Still doubt they'll cover every single thing in all 35 volumes since that shit would almost take longer than Miura finishing the manga. With anime movies averaging less than 2 hours, there's only so much they can put even in a series of movies.

It couldn't have been a TV series and stayed faithful to the manga anyway (because of censorship), and even as an OAV series it'd have a hard time covering the whole story.

I was never expecting a TV series in the first place since in this day and age in japan, adapting Berserk of all thing would completely butcher due to censorship. Even OAVs nowadays have some hard time passing series with a big gore factor with Hellsing Ultimate being the total exception to the rule where they show EVERYTHING including Baby eating Nazi Vampires.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 05, 2011, 05:16:40 PM
If one film is released every year or two, it might be possible to cover the entire manga.

In how many years?

Whoa, hold the phone there. The link i provided updated. According to a recent Newtype magazine, this will be a series of movies that will adapt the *entire* manga.

It's already been posted & commented on.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 05, 2011, 05:57:57 PM
I LOVE THE WORLD!!!!!!!  THANK THE GODS!!!!!!!  SO SAY WE ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :guts: :guts: :guts: :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on January 05, 2011, 06:30:24 PM
I hope they do release it on a volume (or two volume in one OVA) basis on a bi-monthly or quarterly release schedule. If they span it out right it can maintain a consistent quality and stay in line with the manga releases to keep a wealth of material to animate. Either way I'm happy with this.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on January 05, 2011, 06:39:35 PM
In how many years?

It depends on how much they cover per movie, I suppose. That and how often the movies are released. My guess would be ten or more years, but I'm not sure if what they're planning is that ambitious. It's possible, but that would take a tremendous effort.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on January 05, 2011, 07:12:24 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Konketsuji on January 05, 2011, 07:33:14 PM
Awesome! Like all of you, I hope nothing will be cut and censored, that way it's gonna be nearly perfect! :guts: So anyway, that news just made my day!

iamdani, wow, that is one bad-ass looking poster! :isidro: Waiting for the clean and hi-res version.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 05, 2011, 07:37:35 PM
Since they'll be movies I'm not so worried about it being 100% accurate, it'll just have to work. Like Akira! Akira is far from being a perfect adaptation, but it captured the mood and the best parts of the manga perfectly, and it's two hours long. Of course, it being directed by the manga's creator was pretty much essential for that to happen, but I trust the guys at 4C. It's a great studio.

I hope they don't do any cliffhangers and make one chapter per movie or something like that. I like what this is turning out to be.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: slan69 on January 05, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
When they do release the movie(s) I hope it gets released on blu ray. I really want the same Japanese voice actors they had in the anime, although I could do without Casca's voice actor. It just wont be the same without Atsuko Tanaka for Slan. She has a really sexy voice IMO. :slan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on January 05, 2011, 08:56:52 PM
I'm glad this isn't a TV series for the reasons mentioned above. A movie series was the best option to get IMO. Though, I'm really scared/nervous about the "adapt" part like mentioned too. I guess my favorite anime movie series Kara No Kyoukai has finally got some competition and maybe they'll do a global release of the blu-ray too - it best be coming to blu-ray. Who can't wait to pay the $500+ for the whole Berserk Animated Movie Series Blu-ray Box Set?? I know I can't.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nomad on January 05, 2011, 09:22:16 PM
Good news indeed.  But I think we all know movie = massive cuts like said before.  Better to play it safe and adore the pretty colors for the time being.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 05, 2011, 10:15:15 PM
But I think we all know movie = massive cuts like said before.  Better to play it safe and adore the pretty colors for the time being.

Indeed. In no way will they release multiple theatrical movies from a source material as violent as Berserk without massive cuts, unless they are personally funded by some arabian oil prince who's a fan of the manga.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 05, 2011, 10:16:55 PM
Any cut made could be disasterous. What I wonder is if they're gonna animate this chronologically or manga-order...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 06, 2011, 04:24:16 AM
What I wonder is if they're gonna animate this chronologically or manga-order...
I wonder where the first movie will end. . :ubik: :void: :slan: :femto: (http://www.skullknight.net/images/emoticons/conradtest.gif)

:isidro:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on January 06, 2011, 06:43:59 AM
:ubik: :void: :slan: :femto: (http://www.skullknight.net/images/emoticons/conradtest.gif)

Hopefully  :badbone:

I'm also worried about any censoring they may need to do... the days in the 90's where a mainstream anime movie in theaters could have a giant vagina opening up in a 14 year old naked girl's head followed by a cross entering it are gone. :ganishka:

As for how I wish to have seen it done... I think it'd be nicer to have an OVA for the Black Swordsman Arc, an OVA for The Golden Age, a movie for The Lost Children Chapter, and then OVAs after for the rest. Lost Children seems like the only arc they'd be able to put into a movie without removing parts of the story... I mean the whole question of if the Black Swordsman Arc will be shown in its entirety, only briefly(like the first anime), after the Golden Age, or not at all is pretty important to me. How could they show all of the Golden Age AND all of the Black Swordsman in one movie? Or would they have The Black Swordsman followed by the Lost Children chapter? Another question important to me(and Gobs/Grail!) is if "wordwide" means they'll be showing it at Viz's New People Theater in Japan Town in San Francisco! If that rumor is even true... :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 06, 2011, 06:53:03 AM
Another question important to me(and Gobs/Grail!) is if "wordwide" means they'll be showing it at Viz's New People Theater in Japan Town in San Francisco! If that rumor is even true... :puck:
We can carpool. I'll drive!

There are things we all wanna see. One way or another, I hope magic happens and it's all in there. I would love to see the first time we see Guts encounter the God Hand (in volume 3). Femto just calling Guts a chump... GRR! The whole part with The Count was fantastic.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on January 06, 2011, 07:32:41 AM
Why is everyone assuming that it will be all movies? It just says that the 2011 film will be the first part of the project, that doesn't necessarily mean that all, or any of the following parts will be movies. It could just as easily be one movie *correctly* recapping the golden age (since we already got a full tv series of that) followed by a tv series or ova for the rest of the story.

Though honestly I don't know which would be better. The thought of the censorship that would be in a 2011 tv series scares me. And I find the whole movie series idea kind of intriguing, though the time constraints scare me.

Either way, I'm excited.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: A.C on January 06, 2011, 10:32:08 AM
If this movie/movie series will adapt the manga from beginning to end, then I don't really like the approach they've taken with the trailers. They don't show anything from the manga's first volumes.

I really want the same Japanese voice actors they had in the anime, although I could do without Casca's voice actor. It just wont be the same without Atsuko Tanaka for Slan. She has a really sexy voice IMO. :slan:

The Japanese are very good with continuity. Unless any of the old VAs have passed away, I'm sure they'll all return in the new film(s).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on January 06, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
Hell Freakin' Yeah!!! This is exciting.  That poster is the tits.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 06, 2011, 02:35:16 PM
http://twitter.com/berserk_project
they posted a few new things, but Googles translator makes jibberish out of the text  :sad:

translation anyone?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 06, 2011, 02:47:59 PM
http://twitter.com/berserk_project
they posted a few new things, but Googles translator makes jibberish out of the text  :sad:

translation anyone?
It's not that hard to decipher. "The theatrical release is targeted for mid 2011! ! This is the official announcement!"

He also says that animating the entire series is a large task, so it will take time, and it may not all be done in a series of film. Video is also an option. He also says the voice acting cast is being finalized.

Personally, my expectations are unwavering after this announcement.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Konketsuji on January 06, 2011, 03:10:55 PM
It's not that hard to decipher. "The theatrical release is targeted for mid 2011! ! This is the official announcement!"

Damn!! This is huge!!! I wonder if anyone from SK will fly to japan to see it firsthand! :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 06, 2011, 05:09:26 PM
He also says that animating the entire series is a large task, so it will take time, and it may not all be done in a series of film.

As expected. A series of OAVs following the movie wouldn't be a bad solution.

I wonder if anyone from SK will fly to japan to see it firsthand! :carcus:

Well we have members in Japan already. I'm guessing SaiyajinNoOuji will fly his ass to the nearest theater in his hovercar. :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 06, 2011, 05:29:10 PM
I'll hop aboard a boat, hiding inside a crate if I have to.

I hope that "COMING SOON" section of the official Berserk site is replaced with all sorts of info.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 06, 2011, 05:44:03 PM
"The theatrical release is targeted for mid 2011! ! This is the official announcement!"

Is this THE announcement that was supposed to be made on the 8th, or should we expect something else tomorrow?  I hope we get a trailer on the 8th!  That would be badass. :SK:

As far as theatrical release in Japan, you know honestly, that'd totally be something worth making a trip out to Japan for (along with having a vacay in Japan too!).  Except for one small problem.  I don't know Japanese.  I doubt there will be English subtitles in the movie theater.  Rats!

Edit: I google translated the twitter, and saw the tweet right before the "official announcement" saying they hasten the announcement to today.  I guess they saw the internet exploding already so they had to speak up. :slan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on January 06, 2011, 07:40:11 PM
Maaan, I'd make a trip and watch the Japanese version in a theater if I had to! But, I'm definitely in for catching it in a theater in the US even. I think the IFC here in NYC is playing Summer Wars, so I assume this's something that 'could' be featured in their schedule. Gotta play the lottery methinks :femto:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 07, 2011, 01:55:27 AM
Some English tweets this time for the English fans.

(http://skullknight.net/images/berserk_project1.jpg)

It sure is helpful for him to explain what Berserk is to all the people who subscribe to him  :iva:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on January 07, 2011, 02:00:54 AM
It sure is helpful for him to explain what Berserk is to all the people who subscribe to him  :iva:

We of all people should understand the need for that...
"Sup, so uh was there ever a season 2 of Berserk or is that the end of the story?" :carcus:


Anyway, I've gone from being totally incredulous about the nature of this "animation project" to pretty damn intrigued by these latest announcements. As you can tell from my sig, a faithful Berserk movie, or series of them, has been a dream of mine for a while, and it's like that dream turned pet project has now been sanctioned for official production. Exciting for all Berserk fans but of particular personal interest to me given the format. So, whatever your feelings on the previous anime or the prospects of this project, even the most cynical pessimist has to recognize this makes for exciting times to follow Berserk. BERSERK SAGA PROJECT indeed! :guts:


BTW, the latest part of BERSERK: RECUT (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12099.0) is going up tonight, 100 man fight! Good time to check it out. :griffnotevil: :daiba:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 07, 2011, 03:34:41 AM
Faithful? They better mean it! I want to see some Guts on apostle action in the first shot. :azan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 07, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
Quote from: berserk_project
The aim of the project is to make the movies faithful to the original.

Faithful? Yeah, we'll see about that. I hope for them they're not making promises they can't keep (or I'll track them down and force the books down their throats, that's right). And I hope that TV CM/leaked material was indeed test footage, since it was already disappointing as far as faithfulness goes.

So, whatever your feelings on the previous anime or the prospects of this project, even the most cynical pessimist has to recognize this makes for exciting times to follow Berserk. BERSERK SAGA PROJECT indeed! :guts:

Well yeah. From the moment it was announced it became big news in our little world. We can (have, and no doubt will) argue about its quality and its defaults, what should be/should have been done, how it compares to the manga and the old TV series and so on, but we can't deny the impact it will have.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rus on January 07, 2011, 07:27:53 PM
I personally think that this are some really great news. If the movie is done right, it could be a masterpiece that lives up to the manga.
On the other hand a little voice in my head keeps telling me: Well that's it, no more manga episodes till the movie comes out. Miura is going to supervise the whole project himself. This is kinda sad and i hope i'm not right because 318 ended in such a cliffhanger it almost hurts  :puck:

Knowing this guy, i think is quite impossible.... but do you guys think that Miura is going to give up some extra information about his world, maybe something god hand related or something about a character.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 07, 2011, 08:19:24 PM
Well that's it, no more manga episodes till the movie comes out.

I don't see that happening.

do you guys think that Miura is going to give up some extra information about his world, maybe something god hand related or something about a character.

What? Why?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 07, 2011, 08:49:14 PM
Knowing this guy, i think is quite impossible.... but do you guys think that Miura is going to give up some extra information about his world, maybe something god hand related or something about a character.

Miura "rectifying" his manga on the anime? I don't think so.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on January 07, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
I personally think that this are some really great news. If the movie is done right, it could be a masterpiece that lives up to the manga.
On the other hand a little voice in my head keeps telling me: Well that's it, no more manga episodes till the movie comes out. Miura is going to supervise the whole project himself. This is kinda sad and i hope i'm not right because 318 ended in such a cliffhanger it almost hurts  :puck:

As Aaz so rightly pointed out, I see no reason for this to be the case. If anything Miura has probably been supervising the anime production already, as leaked images and reports of him going to 'animation studios' could be evidence to this and that hasn't changed the progress of the manga. At least, not anymore than usual, if it has at all.

Knowing this guy, i think is quite impossible.... but do you guys think that Miura is going to give up some extra information about his world, maybe something god hand related or something about a character.

Why fix what isn't broken? People may argue that the opening of the manga could be slightly adjusted, due to Guts having sex with an apostle and not considering Casca. But then that scene has been brought up before and people have come up with logical explanations.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nomad on January 07, 2011, 10:35:26 PM
From where I stand, everything is a possibility. I'm not saying that rectifying would be the word.  But again, nobody here should expect a page-per-page summary.  If Miura and Co. want to take it to make changes, I think it would be safe to say to give it a logical line of story telling.  At least, that's what normally happens. 

I keep praying that track from the commercials isn't part of the official Soundtrack.  That alone hoping that Hirasawa makes the same contribution as it did to the old series. 
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 07, 2011, 10:54:28 PM
That alone hoping that Hirasawa makes the same contribution as it did to the old series.  

This. Now that the amazing news of having the whole Berserk saga has been announced, news of Susumu on board would be the only followup that could make this the best news EVER.  EVER!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on January 07, 2011, 11:31:38 PM

Knowing this guy, i think is quite impossible.... but do you guys think that Miura is going to give up some extra information about his world, maybe something god hand related or something about a character.


Well there could be little tidbits of extra scenes/dialog here and there, but definitely not anything that would be as big as the Godhand or anything like that. Maybe like the old anime series where Gennon and Boscone were introduced a little earlier, or the extra scenes with Adon. But that all is pretty much filler and doesn't make up for all the stuff they left out. If they are going to try and be more faithful to the manga, then I doubt there would be much of that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Deathbringer on January 08, 2011, 12:34:52 AM
I keep praying that track from the commercials isn't part of the official Soundtrack. 

That's borderline denial there, bucko.

Besides, that particular track is great. Great bittersweet aura to it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nomad on January 08, 2011, 12:42:50 AM
That's borderline denial there, bucko.

Besides, that particular track is great. Great bittersweet aura to it.
I don't hate it.  But I see no reason why change a composer that has contributed in every single project Berserk related.  Unless Hirasawa is either not interested or charging too much.  And still, hard to imagine anyone else fit for the work.  It just seems propper, that's all.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sven Viking on January 08, 2011, 04:24:07 AM
Interesting that the original leaked info from years ago turned out to be basically 100% correct.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on January 08, 2011, 06:00:00 AM
That's borderline denial there, bucko.

It's really not so unreasonable, could go either way.

Besides, that particular track is great. Great bittersweet aura to it.

Yeah, a bittersweet aura; like a wet fart. Also, I'm not sure it achieved greatness in all its 17 seconds of warbling.

I don't hate it.

Well I do! :guts: That track didn't even serve its purpose all that well so I'll join you in hoping that's the last we've heard of it, or that at least it'll be used more appropriately. Here's what that track was good for so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaNRqWbmUsI
:???: "What the fuck are we listening to?" :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nomad on January 08, 2011, 06:29:21 AM
Well I do! :guts: That track didn't even serve its purpose all that well so I'll join you in hoping that's the last we've heard of it, or that at least it'll be used more appropriately. Here's what that track was good for so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaNRqWbmUsI
:???: "What the fuck are we listening to?" :puck:

Right on the money.  Wow, yeah... I'm starting to have FF Advent Children flashbacks here.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on January 08, 2011, 06:30:45 AM
I personally think that this are some really great news. If the movie is done right, it could be a masterpiece that lives up to the manga.

*cough*keepdreaming*cough*

But, it is nice to hear them specify that they're trying to keep things faithful to the original.  So far all we can make judgement on are visual changes.  What I'm really concerned about isn't whether Zodd the Immortal's horn is just right, but rather the story itself.  I'm afraid of the things that could happen, or the elements that could be scrapped or stretched given the time frame of the medium.  As long as they don't try to rush the story, or do the opposite and focus on retarded non-present plots (Adon Get?) I'll be grateful.  

Ah, well, you always lose some value of the original when you make a transition.  The same is true of games -> movies, movies -> games or book -> movie.  So I'm hopeful, and still a bit in awe and grateful that we're getting anything at all.

Yeah, a bittersweet aura; like a wet fart. Also, I'm not sure it achieved greatness in all its 17 seconds of warbling.

Hahaha, that made my day.  It really just sounds like trailer music to me...or maybe I'm being naive.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 08, 2011, 06:32:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaNRqWbmUsI
:???: "What the fuck are we listening to?" :puck:
There's actually a full MP3 of the song if anyone's interested: Berserk_Project_OST - Track 01.mp3 (http://skullknight.net/images/Berserk_Project_OST - Track 01.mp3)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on January 08, 2011, 06:35:41 AM
There's actually a full MP3 of the song if anyone's interested: Berserk_Project_OST - Track 01.mp3 (http://skullknight.net/images/Berserk_Project_OST - Track 01.mp3)

I feel like you're trolling pretty hard right now. :casca:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 08, 2011, 08:53:26 AM
There's actually a full MP3 of the song if anyone's interested: Berserk_Project_OST - Track 01.mp3 (http://skullknight.net/images/Berserk_Project_OST - Track 01.mp3)
 :troll:

:puck:

*cough*keepdreaming*cough*
So far all we can make judgement on are visual changes.  What I'm really concerned about isn't whether Zodd the Immortal's horn is just right, but rather the story itself.  I'm afraid of the things that could happen, or the elements that could be scrapped or stretched given the time frame of the medium.  As long as they don't try to rush the story, or do the opposite and focus on retarded non-present plots (Adon Get?) I'll be grateful.
I agree with you, good sir.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 08, 2011, 11:04:18 AM
I don't hate it.

I like that track. I honestly don't see what some people have against it. Thing lasts 15 seconds and does the job; as far as I'm concerned it's ridiculous to pretend it's not up to the standards of the TV series' OST.

"What? A woman singing wordlessly?! Pfff, not on Hirasawa's level!" (http://aazealh.net/Divers/Sound_File2.gif) (http://aazealh.net/Divers/Anime/OST-Guts.mp3)

But I see no reason why change a composer that has contributed in every single project Berserk related.

First off, you're extrapolating from nothing here. We don't know who will work on the movie's soundtrack yet, nor to what extent. Secondly, as I pointed out before, not all of the music was ever from Hirasawa on Berserk-related OSTs, and he was less involved each time a new one came out.

And still, hard to imagine anyone else fit for the work.

It's a bit strange reading this from someone who's been making his own tracks for the series in a completely different style.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 08, 2011, 12:51:11 PM
I like that track. I honestly don't see what some people have against it. Thing lasts 15 seconds and does the job; as far as I'm concerned it's ridiculous to pretend it's not up to the standards of the TV series' OST.

"What? A woman singing wordlessly?! Pfff, not on Hirasawa's level!" (http://aazealh.net/Divers/Sound_File2.gif) (http://aazealh.net/Divers/Anime/OST-Guts.mp3)

First off, you're extrapolating from nothing here. We don't know who will work on the movie's soundtrack yet, nor to what extent. Secondly, as I pointed out before, not all of the music was ever from Hirasawa on Berserk-related OSTs, and he was less involved each time a new one came out.

It's a bit strange reading this from someone who's been making his own tracks for the series in a completely different style.

Seriously, that piece of music from the commercials is some really poor generic pop trash. And bad example there Aaz, that's not a woman singing, it's Hirasawa's voice, with a melody way more intricate and emotional than that other piece. It's worlds apart.
Safe to say that Hirasawa music works wonders on anime soundtracks, they are all memorable and big part of why those animes work. Berserk included.
For me more than half of my enjoyment of the old anime comes from the emotional impact the music brings. Murder, Beherit, Guts, are all amazing songs that are deeply rooted with various dramatic scenes. They mix the old with the new, abstract medieval influences with more contemporaneous dark ambient melodies, which give that sense of ominous uneasiness during the dark fantasy parts. I can't even read Berserk without listening to Susumu (i personally enjoy the Dreamcast OST the best - even the non-OST tracks that you listen during the levels are amazing). He's that connected to the world of Berserk. As you know even Miura himself works while listening to his songs.
We can all agree that in a movie, music/sound are as much important as images, so if they want this to work, they better bring the master back.

I challenge you to pick any 15 seconds from a Hirasawa Berserk related song that isn't more memorable than that shit they picked.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 08, 2011, 01:45:31 PM
Seriously, that piece of music from the commercials is some really poor generic pop trash. And bad example there Aaz, that's not a woman singing, it's Hirasawa's voice, with a melody way more intricate and emotional than that other piece. It's worlds apart.

The point is that it's wordless singing, duh. And as much as I like that song, I don't think the two are "worlds apart", sorry.

For me more than half of my enjoyment of the old anime comes from the emotional impact the music brings. Murder, Beherit, Guts, are all amazing songs that are deeply rooted with various dramatic scenes.

Those tracks are pretty much the only enjoyment I get from the TV series, but as you're stressing here, they're "deeply rooted" to your memories of those scenes, making you partial to them. That's fine, I love them too, but you need to realize that Susumu Hirasawa isn't the only composer who'll ever be able to create a proper score for Berserk. That mere suggestion is preposterous. And that goes quadruple for commercials (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4e0ZV-Ajns) about Berserk, which is what we're talking about here. We're not even sure if there's a longer version that could be in the OST; I just don't see the point of ranting about it for months before even knowing who will actually compose the soundtrack.

They mix the old with the new, abstract medieval influences with more contemporaneous dark ambient melodies, which give that sense of ominous uneasiness during the dark fantasy parts. I can't even read Berserk without listening to Susumu (i personally enjoy the Dreamcast OST the best - even the non-OST tracks that you listen during the levels are amazing). He's that connected to the world of Berserk.

Hahaha yeah right. By the way, you know that Hirasawa didn't compose all the tracks on the DC game's OST, right? Nor the non-OST ones. I hope for you that your favorites are at least from him.

I challenge you to pick any 15 seconds from a Hirasawa Berserk related song that isn't more memorable than that shit they picked.

I can't say that the first 15 seconds of "Ghosts" are very memorable to me. And he's credited for "Ball" too, but that's almost cheating.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 08, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
Hahaha yeah right. By the way, you know that Hirasawa didn't compose all the tracks on the DC game's OST, right? Nor the non-OST ones. I hope for you that your favorites are at least from him.

I'm intrigued. I'd love to know who composed what for the Dreamcast game then.

Who would you suggest to compose the soundtrack for this project? The only name that comes to my mind is Jerry Goldsmith, but he's dead.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 08, 2011, 02:22:12 PM
I'm intrigued. I'd love to know who composed what for the Dreamcast game then.

Hirasawa composed 8 tracks out of 13 on the OST proper. Tracks 4, 6, 7, 8 and 10 aren't from him.

Arrangement, Lyrics, Music, Voice, Instruments, Programming for tracks 1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 11, 12, 13: 平沢進

Director, Engineer, Chief Composer for tracks 4, 6, 7, 8, 10: 井元雅也
Composer for tracks 4, 6, 7, 8, 10: 井上博美

So in summary:

Susumu Hirasawa    

1. FORCES 2
2. ニコ
3. 血の執着
5. シスターの語り
9. ZODDO 2
11. 大樹
12. 使徒
13. INDRA
Other guys

4. イントロダクション
6. 城へ
7. バルザック
8. アネットのテーマ
10. パラサイト

Who would you suggest to compose the soundtrack for this project? The only name that comes to my mind is Jerry Goldsmith, but he's dead.

Shit, now that's a good question. Honestly I don't know who I'd pick. Hans Zimmer? :troll: But it makes for a good topic actually. If, hypothetically, Hirasawa didn't compose it (or just did parts of it), who would we have work on it? Might actually be worth making a separate thread just for OST discussions and keep this one for news.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on January 08, 2011, 02:54:52 PM
Who would you suggest to compose the soundtrack for this project? The only name that comes to my mind is Jerry Goldsmith, but he's dead.

Kenji Kawai. Maybe not as niche as Hirasawa, but you know what you get with him.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 08, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
Hmm, don't remember the names, I'll have to go get my CD and check it out. Will update when I do. But I can already tell you that Hirasawa composed 8 tracks out of 13 on the OST proper. Tracks 4, 6, 7, 8 and 10 aren't from him.

Much appreciated!
I've just checked wikipedia, it seems in this matter it can't be trusted.
Track 4 and 6 definitely fooled me. They have musical cues from other Hirasawa work. Nico, Sister's Story, Zodd 2 and the obvious Indra and Forces 2 (which i prefer over the original Forces) were my favourites from the DC OST. Can't remember the names from the other non-OST songs, but i love some of those too.

Kenji Kawai. Maybe not as niche as Hirasawa, but you know what you get with him.

Humm. A bit too dark and sophisticated. Don't know how he would fair with epic medieval motifs.

-----

Edit: Thanks again Aaz for the updated info!  :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on January 08, 2011, 10:30:42 PM
Exciting time to be a Berserk fan indeed.  :serpico:

I know this is awesome for our fan community, but the original Berserk anime is pretty popular even with its flaws. I hope the new/current anime audience sees these releases as very relevant, (with its 10+ years of absence) and I think a great adaptation would help. I personally haven't looked forward to a anime release of any sort in a long time. So in a all around about way, this is very refreshing to me on a number of levels.

Do you guys feel that the overall anime audience has grown significantly enough over the last 10+ years, that such would give Berserk a better platform on being successful than its earlier counter part and expand its audience?

Do You think a good adaptation would be a wake up call to a lot of people? I wonder how the new berserk will be marketed? I think the blood and guts factor has a wide audience to a extent, and that it can also be used as bait to reel people in, whom then finally discover its great story.

   All these original Berserk anime fans can finally get a bigger portion of what the manga could of offered them the whole time. (Not to assume, but where I come from watching anime in general is pretty popular but reading manga seems not to be on par. Its considerable noticeable among discussions.)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 08, 2011, 11:13:37 PM
Do you guys feel that the overall anime audience has grown significantly enough over the last 10+ years, that such would give Berserk a better platform on being successful than its earlier counter part and expand its audience?

Depends on what market. The TV series was pretty successful for what it was, you know. That being said, in the US it might be able to introduce the series to a wider audience, yes.

I wonder how the new berserk will be marketed? I think the blood and guts factor has a wide audience to a extent, and that it can also be used as bait to reel people in, whom then finally discover its great story.

I'm quite certain they won't market it like that (at least not in Japan), and honestly it would be an insult to the series if they did.

(Not to assume, but where I come from watching anime in general is pretty popular but reading manga seems not to be on par. Its considerable noticeable among discussions.)

Just like people watch TV but don't read books.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nomad on January 09, 2011, 12:37:14 AM
It's a bit strange reading this from someone who's been making his own tracks for the series in a completely different style.

Well, off course... I don't intend for people to tell me my work can be compared to any professional or Hirasawa himself.  I admit, the one part of this entire project that I am a bit close-minded would be the soundtrack.  Knowing how dead-on the original Soundtrack was with the old series,  I'm just concerned with this new project.  I'm pulling my wishful thinking card out, in hopes Hirasawa has his influence in it.  Hell... Trust me, if I had any backround to support me being a professional music composer?  I'd be sending demo's left and right to Studio 4C.   :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on January 09, 2011, 07:10:37 AM
JAAAPPAAAAN WHERE ARE THOSE NEWTYPE SCANS?! :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 09, 2011, 07:57:29 AM
JAAAPPAAAAN WHERE ARE THOSE NEWTYPE SCANS?! :mozgus:
I plan on picking up a copy from Kinokuniya on Monday. I want that poster! So, uh. If there isn't anything bigger before I get it, I'll scan mine.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 09, 2011, 09:02:14 AM
I plan on picking up a copy from Kinokuniya on Monday. I want that poster! So, uh. If there isn't anything bigger before I get it, I'll scan mine.

That's a good idea!  I should do the same!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on January 09, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
I like that track. I honestly don't see what some people have against it.

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/renegade.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/v/KHnzZtN_gKQ

Thing lasts 15 seconds and does the job; as far as I'm concerned it's ridiculous to pretend it's not up to the standards of the TV series' OST.

It's not fair to either to compare 15 seconds to Hirasawa's contributions.

+5 Renegade
+2 Paragon
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on January 09, 2011, 01:31:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/KHnzZtN_gKQ

Nice job, that match perfectly!  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 09, 2011, 01:54:41 PM
It's not fair to either to compare 15 seconds to Hirasawa's contributions.

Either way you look at it, which further proves my point. And just so you know, it's Tell Me Why that was used to promote the TV series back then.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on January 09, 2011, 02:17:03 PM
Either way you look at it, which further proves my point.

Yeah, based on such a minuscule sample it can't compare.

And just so you know, it's Tell Me Why that was used to promote the TV series back then.

Is that what you meant by this track already being up to the standards of the anime OST? :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 09, 2011, 02:32:05 PM
Yeah, based on such a minuscule sample it can't compare.

Exactly. It's pointless to even make the comparison IMHO. I mean, like I said on the previous page, we don't even know if there is or will ever be a longer version of it. Plus this girl isn't a composer and she's not going to sing her way through the entire movie. I just don't feel like we should rail on this for weeks while no bad news has dropped yet. Knowing J-Pop, it could have been a thousand times worse.

Is that what you meant by this track already being up to the standards of the anime OST? :guts:

:slan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 09, 2011, 07:04:40 PM
(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/renegade.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/v/KHnzZtN_gKQ

It's not fair to either to compare 15 seconds to Hirasawa's contributions.

+5 Renegade
+2 Paragon

Oh you beautiful bastard, thank you for that. :ganishka:

Reminded me how much i'd want to see a live action Berserk directed by Cronenberg and Verhoeven.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on January 09, 2011, 08:22:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/KHnzZtN_gKQ[/center]

Very nice sir.

I'm just thankful for experiencing Berserk coming to theaters in my life time. Rather the story/animation/music be horrible/okay/great.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 10, 2011, 09:53:51 PM
I plan on picking up a copy from Kinokuniya on Monday. I want that poster! So, uh. If there isn't anything bigger before I get it, I'll scan mine.
Unfortunately, they didn't have the February issue in today. They said they'd have it in by around Friday. So... sorry I won't be able to get a bigger scan of that poster :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 11, 2011, 12:28:36 AM
Unfortunately, they didn't have the February issue in today. They said they'd have it in by around Friday. So... sorry I won't be able to get a bigger scan of that poster :judo:

oh snap!  i went and picked up the "january 2011" today.  it's still sealed, but i was about to open it...  i've never read newtype before but the guys at kinokuniya said this issue came out on the 7th.  shouldn't this be the right issue?

edit: balls, i just read that ann post, saying it's in the feb issue.  darn.  i hope they let me return it.  otherwise, that's 12 bucks i didn't need to spend!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Bender on January 11, 2011, 03:05:03 PM
Very nice sir.

I'm just thankful for experiencing Berserk coming to theaters in my life time.

So when they say 'movie' we can assume it will show in theaters for sure?  Part of me thinks that's great, Berserk deserves it.  The rest of me knows that those of us around the world will have to wait even longer to see it. :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on January 11, 2011, 04:10:41 PM
oh snap!  i went and picked up the "january 2011" today.  it's still sealed, but i was about to open it...  i've never read newtype before but the guys at kinokuniya said this issue came out on the 7th.  shouldn't this be the right issue?

edit: balls, i just read that ann post, saying it's in the feb issue.  darn.  i hope they let me return it.  otherwise, that's 12 bucks i didn't need to spend!
I was at Kinokuniya too at around 7-7:15 :farnese:! I picked up the only missing volume of Hunter X Hunter that I ordered through them.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 11, 2011, 05:26:37 PM
So when they say 'movie' we can assume it will show in theaters for sure?

Yup. Theatrical release this summer.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 11, 2011, 07:43:54 PM
Yup. Theatrical release this summer.
That's kind of intense.  :isidro:

I was expecting a DVD only release.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 11, 2011, 08:13:33 PM
That's kind of intense.  :isidro:

I was expecting a DVD only release.

You guys are hurting Walter's feelings.

It's not that hard to decipher. "The theatrical release is targeted for mid 2011! ! This is the official announcement!"
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on January 12, 2011, 02:21:09 AM
Got some BIG Berserk Project news here, hot off the presses:

Quote
ありがとうございます。何か凄いしっかり作ってるっぽいですね。 RT @richi_osito: @berserk_project こんにちは^^桜塚やっくんのブログにグリフィス様のコスプレ写真がありましたよ http://bit.ly/eTpLjC

 :isidro:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 12, 2011, 05:01:24 AM
Got some BIG Berserk Project news here, hot off the presses:

 :isidro:
DON'T TRICK ME LIKE THAT!! Then again, I should really be directing my frustration towards Mr. Twitter...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on January 14, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Is anyone anticipating big changes to the casting? If the movies are going to start from scratch, I would imagine that even if they keep Guts & Griffith's original seiyuu, they'll most likely change them for the earlier flashbacks. Both actors are in their 40s now, so I can't see them voicing two pubescent teens. Wouldn't surprise me if they could pull it off, though.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 15, 2011, 12:16:52 AM
Is anyone anticipating big changes to the casting? If the movies are going to start from scratch, I would imagine that even if they keep Guts & Griffith's original seiyuu, they'll most likely change them for the earlier flashbacks. Both actors are in their 40s now, so I can't see them voicing two pubescent teens. Wouldn't surprise me if they could pull it off, though.
I was actually thinking about this. Guts' VA sounds a little bit off in the PS2 footage, but that could just be me. It would be a bit hard for me to get used to a new Guts.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 15, 2011, 08:10:58 PM
I think Griffith's voice should be sex to the ears :troll:. So I hope they get someone good for him. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Doc on January 16, 2011, 10:04:31 AM
I think Griffith's voice should be sex to the ears :troll:. So I hope they get someone good for him. :griffnotevil:

If, for whatever reason, Morikawa doesn't return as Griffith, I would suggest Koji Yusa. He voiced Isley in the Claymore anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on January 18, 2011, 01:20:55 AM
So... was there just no information in that Newtype outside of the fact that it's a movie? No studio announced? :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 19, 2011, 01:04:44 AM
Unfortunately, they didn't have the February issue in today. They said they'd have it in by around Friday. So... sorry I won't be able to get a bigger scan of that poster :judo:

I suppose you've already got the magazine, but I got it and sadly it's not really a poster.  It's only a 2 page spread, not 4 page like the scan previously portrayed.  Oh well, still cool to have!!!  Now I need to find the right frame =).  It measures about 12 x 18 inches.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 19, 2011, 01:16:37 AM
I suppose you've already got the magazine, but I got it and sadly it's not really a poster.  It's only a 2 page spread, not 4 page like the scan previously portrayed.  Oh well, still cool to have!!!  Now I need to find the right frame =).  It measures about 12 x 18 inches.
Actually, I was gonna pick it up today, but they said they still haven't got the magazine in. Kind of a bummer about the size of the spread, but still cool! Is there any way you'd be able to scan yours so perhaps somebody here might be able to decipher the text?

EDIT:
Apparently there exists a textless version of this poster, found on this site:
http://adala-news.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Berserk-Teaser.jpg

Unfortunately it's still small.
Here's the article I found it in: http://adala-news.fr/en/le-manga-berserk-adapte-en-film/

EDIT 2:
Nevermind, I found a close up shot of the text. Unfortunately I have no idea what it says...
(http://www.erikthejuiceman.com/berserknewtypetext.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: C_W on January 19, 2011, 07:05:10 PM
Well, firstly, hi, everyone. I'm new here. At first I was afraid I would never be approved. I was drawn to this site just by typing in random stuff I wanted to know more about. It's such a shame that Berserk's official wikipedia is so... absolutely pathetic; so I was ecstatic to find out there was actually a place where Berserk fans could gather and a place that had more information than I could handle.  :ubik:


Intros out of the way, I'm quite eager about this new series. Though I am a bit weary on one thing I've seen in the commercials. Guts doesn't really look too "black" as the Black Swordsman. From what I saw, his cloak looked almost puke green, and I really hope they can just put him in black. The way Miura can draw that cloak; it looks awesome in every scene, so I really hope at least an anime adaptation can capture it.

Guts in the first series looked more brown in episode, rather than black, but I guess it was because of the burning scenery in those shots, as he was pretty black in the forest scene. The only animated incarnation of the Black Swordsman I've seen so far and been impressed with was the PS2 game; I think they really captured his likeness fairly well there.


Someone also mentioned the second FMA series when comparing it to this new anime. As long as this new series doesn't abridge over early parts like the second FMA anime did at first, I'll be happy.

Honestly, I'm hoping it to be a complete reboot (which, from what I've read, it is) rather than a continuation. There's too many loose ends that would be impossible to tie in the first anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 19, 2011, 10:24:19 PM
Thanks for the grab, Gob! I'll try to convert that into text with OCR software and then we might be able to get a translation, at the very least, a GOOGLE translation.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 19, 2011, 11:11:59 PM
Thanks for the grab, Gob! I'll try to convert that into text with OCR software and then we might be able to get a translation, at the very least, a GOOGLE translation.

I think someone mentioned that SK forum has japanese speakers  :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 20, 2011, 12:12:44 AM
I think someone mentioned that SK forum has japanese speakers  :???:
I think I know the users pretty well here. And what Aazealh said was that we have members that live in Japan, but don't necessarily speak the language, or would step up to translate.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 20, 2011, 01:00:50 AM
Just from glancing at the squiggles I understand, they mention the 20 year anniversary, the TV commercials, and the release of volume 35. I figured that out by spotting, you guessed it, the "20," the "CM," and the "35." Aaz took a quick glance at it earlier and said that it sorta recaps the promotion process. Then again, what does he know? I'll bet this text has all sorts of hidden secrets.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on January 20, 2011, 11:01:04 PM
Hey everyone, this is my first post on this website, glad my registration got accepted after three long weeks of waiting  :ubik:

About the text on the poster, I doubt that it is something we don't already know about. I do sometimes exchange e-mails with Dark Horse's Berserk translator (yeah, I'm a fanboy like that  :puck:) , maybe I could ask him to translate it if the demand is strong enough. I don't know him much though, and I don't want to disturb him for nothing in the event you guys don't give a shit ;)

Glad to be part of the best Berserk-related website out there  :daiba:
(sorry, I just love these emoticons)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 21, 2011, 12:48:29 AM
glad my registration got accepted after three long weeks of waiting  :ubik:

I feel your pain.


. .Welcome to SK.net! :SK:

I also doubt that there is any info in that poster that we don't already know.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 21, 2011, 11:41:16 AM
Honestly, I'm hoping it to be a complete reboot (which, from what I've read, it is) rather than a continuation. There's too many loose ends that would be impossible to tie in the first anime.

There was never any chance of it being a sequel to the TV series from 97/98.

Aaz took a quick glance at it earlier and said that it sorta recaps the promotion process.

Indeed, it doesn't say anything new. It's basically just promotional material.

Something more or less interesting: the producer says he chose to make Berserk because it's about young people and the main hero, Guts, doesn't surrender to his fate. While the era depicted is very harsh, he has the power to break through the common hardships of his time (implying a parallel with Japan nowadays?). Other than that, they say about how Japanese swords are different from Western ones so they put a lot of effort into depicting the swords faithfully, the armors are well detailed, etc.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on January 22, 2011, 06:34:59 AM
Here's the article I found it in: http://adala-news.fr/en/le-manga-berserk-adapte-en-film/


Hahaha, this website is hilarious, English is definitely not their first language. But a really nice image, all the characters look awesome.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: HURRR on January 23, 2011, 12:12:41 AM
Other than that, they say about how Japanese swords are different from Western ones so they put a lot of effort into depicting the swords faithfully, the armors are well detailed, etc.

It's a minor point, but I find this very encouraging. The obvious interest Kentaro Miura showed in depicting a variety of armour and equipment (e.g. the various themed armies of Midland and Tudor, the HICKs, the huge variety of Kushan forces, etc) really adds to the appeal of the series, and I'm happy that the animators recognise this.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 23, 2011, 12:27:36 AM
It's a minor point, but I find this very encouraging. The obvious interest Kentarou Miura showed in depicting a variety of armour and equipment (e.g. the various themed armies of Midland and Tudor, the HICKs, the huge variety of Kushan forces, etc) really adds to the appeal of the series, and I'm happy that the animators recognise this.i
You made me realize that I really want to see Silat and his bodyguards animated. So I can see their swiftness in action.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Nomad on January 23, 2011, 03:39:03 AM
It's a minor point, but I find this very encouraging. The obvious interest Kentarou Miura showed in depicting a variety of armour and equipment (e.g. the various themed armies of Midland and Tudor, the HICKs, the huge variety of Kushan forces, etc) really adds to the appeal of the series, and I'm happy that the animators recognise this.
I would think that Miura's experience with the anime industry would benefit.  Seeing as it wasn't a fully happy result on Miura's side in the original anime.  I'm confident he would take different steps regarding content.  And off course I am speaking to the once mentioned "Griffith becoming king" reference in the 1st episode.  On the other hand, it's also a matter of how much time and budget Studio 4C has that would affect this whole technical ordeal.  Like Aaz said, it is interesting to hear the producers comment.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: thedigitalsin on January 23, 2011, 04:01:35 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/YMB8Us.jpg) (http://imgur.com/YMB8U)

Here's a ridiculously high res scan of the Newtype spread (http://i.imgur.com/YMB8U.jpg).  

Measures at 5000x3410 pixels and 6.5MB, so give it a bit of time to load.  
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 23, 2011, 05:39:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/YMB8Us.jpg) (http://imgur.com/YMB8U)

Here's a ridiculously high res scan of the Newtype spread (http://i.imgur.com/YMB8U.jpg).  

Measures at 5000x3410 pixels and 6.5MB, so give it a bit of time to load.  

Hmmm, they must have reuploaded a smaller version, because it's only 500k now, but STILL AWESOME.  Thanks!!! =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: thedigitalsin on January 23, 2011, 05:49:02 AM
Hmmm, they must have reuploaded a smaller version, because it's only 500k now, but STILL AWESOME.  Thanks!!! =)

Bleh, imgur likely resized it after the upload. 
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on January 23, 2011, 08:33:10 AM
Nice! :guts:

but, does anyone else think that Casca's eyes aren't positioned properly?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on January 23, 2011, 03:09:16 PM
Here's an article Mr. Twitter linked. It's in English, too!
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201101210303.html
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 23, 2011, 04:49:40 PM
Well now I know what I'm gonna be waiting for after my Godspeed shows : waiting for the first movie to come out! damn right!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on January 23, 2011, 09:17:21 PM
Here's an article Mr. Twitter linked. It's in English, too!
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201101210303.html
Cool beans! Shoot, I didn't realize it was coming out 'this year'! Exciting! The poster looks cool, the character art looks a little off though.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 24, 2011, 02:55:29 AM
Here's an article Mr. Twitter linked. It's in English, too!
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201101210303.html
Hey, they called the individual manga releases "episodes"! I mean, of course.  :badbone:

It's a little disconcerting to me that there's such a big Falcons focus in the Newtype art. This is supposed to be accurately reproducing the episodes from the manga. Yet right now it looks like it will just be focusing on the Golden Age. For it to be accurate, it would need a Black Swordsman arc to lead into the Golden Age stuff. Maybe it's being done chronologically ... :schierke:

It's also interesting that despite "all" the press this title has gotten in the recent months, we still don't know what studio will be animating. I will admit though, it does sort of have Studio 4°C's flair.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 24, 2011, 04:42:17 AM
It's a little disconcerting to me that there's such a big Falcons focus in the Newtype art. This is supposed to be accurately reproducing the episodes from the manga. Yet right now it looks like it will just be focusing on the Golden Age. For it to be accurate, it would need a Black Swordsman arc to lead into the Golden Age stuff. Maybe it's being done chronologically ... :schierke:

I also am wondering about this.  Although, aside from the CMs and this Newtype picture, that's all that we've seen.  I'm hoping they do start from the Black Swordsman arc, so I'm guessing that the art that they've chosen is Falcon art because that's the art that *most* people associate Berserk with, ie the people that haven't read any of the manga.  Anyhoo, it's good to see it written again and again that they will animate the ENTIRE Berserk manga.  It still hasn't quite hit me yet.  It's just amazing!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 24, 2011, 07:51:35 PM
does anyone else think that Casca's eyes aren't positioned properly?

Yeah, her whole face is kind of gross. Not to mention Carcus'.

It's a little disconcerting to me that there's such a big Falcons focus in the Newtype art. This is supposed to be accurately reproducing the episodes from the manga.

Well to be fair it's just one picture. And you know, I honestly don't see how they could fit all of the Golden Age arc into a single movie anyway, so at this point and despite what they've announced, I'm just warily waiting to learn more about it. I think the Black Swordsman arc could be made to fit a movie, but I sure as hell wouldn't bet on that being their plan.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on January 24, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
I'm guessing that the art that they've chosen is Falcon art because that's the art that *most* people associate Berserk with, ie the people that haven't read any of the manga.
Yeah, those guys have always made for good promotional material.  :griffnotevil: :guts: :casca: :judo: :carcus: :rickert: :pippin: :gaston: :dan: :earl:

Well to be fair it's just one picture. And you know, I honestly don't see how they could fit all of the Golden Age arc into a single movie anyway, so at this point and despite what they've announced, I'm just warily waiting to learn more about it. I think the Black Swordsman arc could be made to fit a movie, but I sure as hell wouldn't bet on that being their plan.
It's true, it's just a single picture. However, since they say they're going to accurately reproduce THE ENTIRE SERIES, and they're showing this particular image off to promote the upcoming movie, it leads me to believe The Falcons will be a key part of this particular release. That being the case, I'm not sure how much room they'll leave for The Black Swordsman arc, or scenes therein. If any  :femto:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 25, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
I don't think they'd have the guts to skip something big like the Slug Count's story, so I believe they'll just adapt the story chronologically. The Falcons being the key part of the first movie is understandable, but, like Walter said, if it came at the expense of the Black Swordsman arc (and the rest of the story) to get right to the Golden Age like the anime series, it would definitely be a disaster. I'm still an optimistic though.

The worst case scenario is we get to see (presumably high-budget) animated segments of many parts of the manga and ignore everything else. :iva:

About the studio, this promo image's Griffith looks a lot like that CM's Griffith. I think it's still 4°C.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 25, 2011, 12:23:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YMB8Us.jpg) (http://imgur.com/YMB8U)

Here's a ridiculously high res scan of the Newtype spread (http://i.imgur.com/YMB8U.jpg).  

Measures at 5000x3410 pixels and 6.5MB, so give it a bit of time to load.  

Those faces look very very wrong!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on January 25, 2011, 04:18:01 PM
From what I've seen in the past, anime art and promotional materials have never been very accurate, even for their own series. Casca and Carcus look really off in this one, but I hope that isn't so in the final product.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on January 25, 2011, 04:23:34 PM
Hi. First post here, so, excuse me...

I'm optimistic. From everything I've read about this project, it feels like they won't skip anything. Things may not be in the right order, but even then I don't believe they would skip the first Arc. That would turn everything they said until this point into a huge lie. They must know it would be a terrible move.  :puck:

About the animation and art, that poster alone doesn't mean much to me. As Rhombaad just wrote while I was typing this post - :carcus: - God knows anime posters aren't a good indicative of the show's quality. And those CMs, they are not going to be in any of the movies, right? There are scenes there from later Arcs that won't be animated in years, so they're most likely only promo material. The inacuracies don't worry me, and even the art style can change a bit.

All I know is that I can barely wait for the first trailer. That will be such a defining moment, and an epic one at that! Though trailers also are masters of deceit, at least they won't lie in the visual department.  :guts:


ps: btw, nice background.  :schnoz:
ps2: I had to use a few of these icons in my first post. They're great.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 25, 2011, 07:30:12 PM
I believe they'll just adapt the story chronologically.

That would be a pretty stupid thing to do. And not a good start when you publicly declare you'll be very faithful to the original material.

The Falcons being the key part of the first movie is understandable

Is it really? Focusing on Guts as the Black Swordsman with never-animated-before footage seems like a wiser choice to me.

That would turn everything they said until this point into a huge lie. They must know it would be a terrible move.  :puck:

Let us pray that they do, my friend.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 25, 2011, 08:01:45 PM
Is it really? Focusing on Guts as the Black Swordsman with never-animated-before footage seems like a wiser choice to me.

The most famous part of Berserk is the Golden Age, so I presumed it would be safer for them to start there. The rest of the movies depends on the success of the first one, since they even mention considering video as an option to finish the adaptation. Don't you think starting at the Golden Age will attract more people to the theater? I know a lot of dudes that dropped the series because they were unsatisfied with the use of magic and the other fantasy elements that are absent in the Golden Age (anime fans, mostly). Well, Berserk still does sell a lot, so maybe I'm overestimating the amount of people that stopped reading.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 25, 2011, 08:49:57 PM
The most famous part of Berserk is the Golden Age, so I presumed it would be safer for them to start there.

Most famous says who? We can assume it's the most well-known part among a certain crowd because it was prominently featured in the TV series, but then that also makes it redundant if they make it the subject of the movie. It seems risky to me to assume that people would prefer to see the same stuff again. Not to mention that a single movie will definitely not be able to cover the entirety of the Golden Age arc in a satisfactory manner.

The rest of the movies depends on the success of the first one, since they even mention considering video as an option to finish the adaptation.

That's not what they announced. They said they likely wouldn't adapt the whole series into movies, yeah, but because of the obvious reason: the format just isn't appropriate. It'd take dozens of movies to cover it (and they'd have to censor a lot of stuff). They never mentioned that anything depended on the success of the first movie, and have in fact announced right from the start that they would animate the entire story.

Don't you think starting at the Golden Age will attract more people to the theater?

No, I don't. Like I said, the people who've only seen the TV series might be more interested in finding out about the rest of the story. I assume the readers of the manga would go see it either way, and I don't think it'd necessarily attract more of the people who've never been exposed to the series.

I know a lot of dudes that dropped the series because they were unsatisfied with the use of magic and the other fantasy elements that are absent in the Golden Age (anime fans, mostly).

Are you saying they stopped reading right during the Black Swordsman arc? Because if so, there's probably no point in even trying to appeal to them. If that's not what you meant, then I don't see how it's relevant to what you're quoting from my post.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 25, 2011, 08:52:26 PM
The most famous part of Berserk is the Golden Age, so I presumed it would be safer for them to start there.

Safe? not really. If they start with the Golden age, it would mean no prior knowledge of the Black Swordsman arc. That would mean going into the eclipse, coming out, Guts goes out hunting.. and then what? shove the original intro in there? sounds interesting at first but a key part of the Black Swordsman arc is the reveal of how Guts is after the God Hand, and Griffith in particular. Puck's reaction and lines would lose a good portion of their impact and relevance if this is all shown right after the Eclipse. How would the arc jump from the Count to Rochine and the Holy Iron Chain Knights?

It would entail creating new transitions, and losing quite a lot of the build up of events. Which I think is essential.

I'm not ready to believe that the producers did research and somehow came to the conclusion that the fans and everyone else want to mix up the order of events. Clutterfucking the story won't help in the long run. It just complicates, till things crash and burn.

Would a movie that includes the Black Swordsman arc really be less of a success?  :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 25, 2011, 09:10:00 PM
If they start with the Golden age, it would mean no prior knowledge of the Black Swordsman arc. That would mean going into the eclipse, coming out, Guts goes out hunting.. and then what? shove the original intro in there? sounds interesting at first but a key part of the Black Swordsman arc is the reveal of how Guts is after the God Hand, and Griffith in particular. Puck's reaction and lines would lose a good portion of their impact and relevance if this is all shown right after the Eclipse.

You're also forgetting to mention that the Black Swordsman arc is referenced quite a bit during the Golden Age arc. They're meant to be experienced in a specific order, and changing that order would result in unnecessary problems. All the main players and concepts are introduced in the Black Swordsman arc, from the Dragon Slayer to the Brand, beherits, apostles, elves, the God Hand and even the Demon Child. Some are completely explained through the early story and taken for granted from then on, some are kept mysterious and only revealed later on. Messing with that subtle balance would not serve them in the long run.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Infinte on January 25, 2011, 09:44:09 PM
I will put my bet on that it is gonna be Black Swordsman Arc if they are going to stay the truthful to the manga but I'm also wondering what parts would they censor if they will because its pretty hard for me to believe they aren't gonna censor anything but Hellsing didn't censor its OVAs and i hope they won't do it to Berserk either.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 25, 2011, 09:52:52 PM
You're also forgetting to mention that the Black Swordsman arc is referenced quite a bit during the Golden Age arc. They're meant to be experienced in a specific order, and changing that order would result in unnecessary problems.

I didn't forget. A good portion of my comment went on about how fucked the story would be if the order of events were changed.
I just didn't cover nearly as many bases as you did.  :casca:


 



Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on January 25, 2011, 09:53:54 PM
Let's just pray for a trailer in the near future.  I NEED SOME ANSWERS!!! :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 25, 2011, 09:54:25 PM
We can assume it's the most well-known part among a certain crowd because it was prominently featured in the TV series, but then that also makes it redundant if they make it the subject of the movie. It seems risky to me to assume that people would prefer to see the same stuff again. Not to mention that a single movie will definitely not be able to cover the entirety of the Golden Age arc in a satisfactory manner.

Yeah, what I said is pretty much based on making that assumption (sorry!), especially the part where I say some people don't like the fantasy elements. And by that I meant that they could stand demons, elves, the undead, but not so much focus on magic (as in having Schierke being a part of the group, the elements, etc) as it is now. That's what I hear from them anyway. I'm not trying to defend these people, I understand they often contradict themselves by stating that the series wasn't fantasy, I'm just saying I'd understand if the movie-makers chose to start the film series where everyone seems to enjoy.

I said it'd be a disaster if they cut anything from the Black Swordsman arc in my first post, I just wasn't caring about the order I'd see it as long as it was all there, I guess. But as you and Ramen 4ev0r stated, it pretty much ruins continuity; I hadn't really thought about that. You're both right.

That's not what they announced. They said they likely wouldn't adapt the whole series into movies, yeah, but because of the obvious reason: the format just isn't appropriate. It'd take dozens of movies to cover it (and they'd have to censor a lot of stuff). They never mentioned that anything depended on the success of the first movie, and have in fact announced right from the start that they would animate the entire story.

I know that's not what they announced, but a video animation costs significantly less, so I'm sure they thought about that as well. They have to think about a good start, financially I mean.

Look, I'm sorry I even said anything, I'm clearly taking this adaptation pretty light-heartedly while you're all very preoccupied with the quality. :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 25, 2011, 10:10:08 PM
Look, I'm sorry I even said anything, I'm clearly taking this adaptation pretty light-heartedly while you're all very preoccupied with the quality. :magni:

I won't even deny it. As it is right now, a lot can go wrong and in more ways than I can name. For me this isn't just another series. It's Berserk, and it's important to me. This is the second shot at Berserk. The first already screwed up. Do you know what happens when the remake screws up as well? It means that it's over. This isn't Hollywood were they crank out reboot after reboot or remake after remake. If they screw this up, it's here to stay for a long, long time. As Aazealh has pointed out a number of times, we'll still have the Manga. But I really would enjoy a proper animated version of Berserk as well.

Besides, now that we know it's being made, what else would we be preoccupied with if not the quality? right?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on January 25, 2011, 10:25:46 PM
And by that I meant that they could stand demons, elves, the undead, but not so much focus on magic (as in having Schierke being a part of the group, the elements, etc) as it is now.

Which is how I took it, but the problem is that it's got nothing to do with the current discussion. The Black Swordsman arc starts in volume 1 and ends in volume 3. As a reminder, Schierke first appears in volume 22. :iva: And on a side note, there's no ground to your assumption that because some people allegedly stopped reading the series around volume 24, they would favor the Golden Age arc over the Black Swordsman or Conviction arcs. I can tell you from experience that it often isn't the case.

I know that's not what they announced, but a video animation costs significantly less, so I'm sure they thought about that as well. They have to think about a good start, financially I mean.

No doubt they want to make as much money as possible, but I feel that the way in which you worded your previous sentence misrepresented what had been announced. Never mind.

Look, I'm sorry I even said anything, I'm clearly taking this adaptation pretty light-heartedly while you're all very preoccupied with the quality.

Awww, don't be like that. :casca: It's not so much a matter of taking it light-heartedly as it is a matter of what you said being perplexing to me. :void: Personally I'd obviously prefer this project to be the best possible adaptation but I'm not expecting a miracle either.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on January 25, 2011, 10:53:56 PM
Which is how I took it, but the problem is that it's got nothing to do with the current discussion. The Black Swordsman arc starts in volume 1 and ends in volume 3. As a reminder, Schierke first appears in volume 22. :iva: And on a side note, there's no ground to your assumption that because some people allegedly stopped reading the series around volume 24, they would favor the Golden Age arc over the Black Swordsman or Conviction arcs. I can tell you from experience that it often isn't the case.

Yeah, I pretty much based everything on that assumption and elaborated some nonsense. I had basically placed people in two groups: those that loved the Golden Age and those that love everything so far. :farnese:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on January 26, 2011, 08:26:38 PM
Yeah, I pretty much based everything on that assumption and elaborated some nonsense. I had basically placed people in two groups: those that loved the Golden Age and those that love everything so far. :farnese:

I don't think what you were saying is so outrageous, just looking at the new promotional poster it's already the same Golden Age imagery associated with the previous anime. It could just be the beginning of promotion, a reminder, but by that token it's fair to say that's the most "public" image of Berserk to casual fans and general audiences, familiar to readers and non-readers alike.

I'd prefer they do the Black Swordsman arc because it's the proper beginning, is a good fit for a single film, and could even be promoted as the continuation of the original anime's story for those only familiar with that. It'd basically be perfect, meaning... yeah, they'll probably do some horribly condensed bastardization of Golden Age again. =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Darken Rahl on January 26, 2011, 09:05:21 PM
Hello everyone... I'm sort of new here; I've been lurking on this site since 2005.

I, for one, am hoping that they cover the Black Swordsman arc in its entirety. The people working on these series of films have said that they are staying true to the source material and I believe them. Seeing as how most readers of the comic series aren't big fans of how the story was handled in the anime and that the series how now sold over 30 million books worldwide, I'm sure that people working on this project aren't going to try and please their original anime fanbase by omitting the first three volumes.

I actually believe that they will pull more fans into the series this way and I'm sure they feel the same way. When I first watched the anime I thought that it was amazing. Then I started reading the manga and the animated series lost it's appeal. I still think it's a great show. But after reading the manga, it made me upset at how the TV series was handled. Well, here's hoping that the new movies get the triple AAA treatment.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on January 27, 2011, 02:33:30 AM
I feel the Black Swordsman arc in the first 3 volumes is the weakest part of the manga. Guts was kind of a one-dimensional jerk and Puck was whiny instead of funny or interesting and of course the art wasn't up to what we now expect of Berserk. If they were to adapt the first three volumes for the movie they'd have to do a good bit of redesigning and work on the story a bit (with Miura's permission) to make it fit more with the quality that comes with and after the Golden Age.

I think the most successful adaption would show events of the Black swordsman killing the first two apostles and then facing the Godhand for the first time in the first five minutes with a dramatic song playing in the background, and a bit of meaningful bits of dialogue that would hint at what Guts is currently dealing with. Then the meat of the movie would be The Golden Age. If you want an example of what I'm talking about check out the first five minutes of the first Gurren Lagann movie which shows events the audience doesn't fully understand until the middle of the second movie, but provides valuable foreshadowing and a powerful bit of introductory imagery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUM-FZrBS0
They could work the "Man has no control, not even over his own will" into that intro too.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on January 27, 2011, 04:39:55 AM
I feel the Black Swordsman arc in the first 3 volumes is the weakest part of the manga. Guts was kind of a one-dimensional jerk and Puck was whiny instead of funny or interesting

Your analysis of the Black Swordsman arc is one-dimensional and whiny instead of funny or interesting. =)

Seriously though, Guts was obviously pained and conflicted in that arc, just as always, and Puck serves as the voice of the conscience he's rebelling against as well as our window into his feelings. It wasn't as one-dimensional as you feel.

and of course the art wasn't up to what we now expect of Berserk.

That's irrelevant as they're going to adapt it to whatever style they settle on for the anime.

If they were to adapt the first three volumes for the movie they'd have to do a good bit of redesigning and work on the story a bit (with Miura's permission) to make it fit more with the quality that comes with and after the Golden Age.

What are you talking about? I love Golden Age and all, but there's nothing wrong with the Black Swordsman arc; it's dark, action-packed and establishes the foundation of the entire series, in deeper ways than many care to notice. It's in no way unworthy of this, and is in fact better suited to this format than the Golden Age arc, which would be better served by a series of some kind. Anyway, from what you're saying, the Black Swordsman arc might also benefit the most from an adaptation, giving people a second look and possibly a new perspective on that material.

I think the most successful adaption would show events of the Black swordsman killing the first two apostles and then facing the Godhand for the first time in the first five minutes with a dramatic song playing in the background, and a bit of meaningful bits of dialogue that would hint at what Guts is currently dealing with. Then the meat of the movie would be The Golden Age.

That's your idea of "the most successful adaptation?" And I thought I was cynical about this project, because frankly that sounds more like a worst case scenario to me. They'd basically have to compromise everything to do that, so it would do as much disservice to Golden Age as the Black Swordsman arc. If they're really intending to somehow cover the entire series, let's hope they aim higher than that.

If you want an example of what I'm talking about check out the first five minutes of the first Gurren Lagann movie which shows events the audience doesn't fully understand until the middle of the second movie, but provides valuable foreshadowing and a powerful bit of introductory imagery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUM-FZrBS0

Or, if you're proposing they faithfully cover the rest of the Golden Age arc anyway, why not just do the same for Black Swordsman in one shot? Especially since Golden Age has already been done.

They could work the "Man has no control, not even over his own will" into that intro too.

Thank goodness, because that's important.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on January 27, 2011, 04:46:57 AM
I feel the Black Swordsman arc in the first 3 volumes is the weakest part of the manga. Guts was kind of a one-dimensional jerk and Puck was whiny instead of funny or interesting and of course the art wasn't up to what we now expect of Berserk. If they were to adapt the first three volumes for the movie they'd have to do a good bit of redesigning and work on the story a bit (with Miura's permission) to make it fit more with the quality that comes with and after the Golden Age.

I think the most successful adaption would show events of the Black swordsman killing the first two apostles and then facing the Godhand for the first time in the first five minutes with a dramatic song playing in the background, and a bit of meaningful bits of dialogue that would hint at what Guts is currently dealing with. Then the meat of the movie would be The Golden Age. If you want an example of what I'm talking about check out the first five minutes of the first Gurren Lagann movie which shows events the audience doesn't fully understand until the middle of the second movie, but provides valuable foreshadowing and a powerful bit of introductory imagery. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKUM-FZrBS0
They could work the "Man has no control, not even over his own will" into that intro too.

I dunno, personally I'd rather them do the whole Black Swordsman arc, or just start off fresh at the beginning of the Golden Age.  Those first volumes are some of my favorites, I think it would be a shame to miss out on some of the incredible character development that happens with Theresa and her father.  Towards the end it shows a side of Guts you don't get to see very often.  Guts was fueled by revenge - It's who his character was at the time.  Ruthless.  I miss the side of puck that you're lamenting.  Now that we have so many other characters that come into play you don't see Guts and Puck interacting on any serious level.  It's a time of development for Puck too, and without it I think people might miss out on what makes him so interesting.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on January 27, 2011, 04:02:06 PM
Guts was kind of a one-dimensional jerk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0hjSaYCRnA
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on January 27, 2011, 10:32:40 PM
I think the most successful adaption would show events of the Black swordsman killing the first two apostles and then facing the Godhand for the first time in the first five minutes with a dramatic song playing in the background, and a bit of meaningful bits of dialogue that would hint at what Guts is currently dealing with. Then the meat of the movie would be The Golden Age.

Really? You're serious about this, right?

Why bother with the Golden Age and later arcs at all then? Why not just show a few clips of Guts walking (to dramatic music) then kill some apostles (to dramatic music), throw in a 5 second flashback of the hawks being killed during the eclipse(to sadder dramatic music), switch back to Guts saying a few bits of meaningful dialogue while looking all angry at Femto then climax to: http://www.skullknight.net/griffdeath/  Guts and Casca can then start fucking(to dramatic music), because you know, Casca becoming sane again is just a detail that leads to hard sex anyway and we don't need details or the finer stuff. Then the screen can fade to the meat of the movie which could be a very long credits(to dramatic music) thanking CCS for saving the production from years of work.

Hell, I might just shoot this movie myself, with some action figures, a webcam, and a boombox.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on January 29, 2011, 01:13:39 AM
I wonder when will we get more information about the movie. Mostly, what will it be: Golden Age or Black Swordsman arc (man, writing that as BS Arc as I was going to do is not a good idea  :troll:).  

I really hope the poster is just a promo image like the CMs, and they just picked beloved characters that give that bit of nostalgia in order to draw attention. I like all of Berserk, but I've already seen a good portion of the Golden Age arc animated. Of course I want to see it done completely and right now, but I have no hurry. So I hope they don't rush and make the first movie about it.

I think what many fans of the manga are most eager to see are the later arcs (and the first one) animated (together with the full GA arc, but that's a given). I agree it's probably not the best move to start with the GA arc all over again. And indeed, the first arc would not fit well after the Golden Age arc. It would feel pointless.

I'm currently re-reading the manga in order to grasp some concepts I still strugle with - all the layers and how they work, and mostly the rules of interaction between the physical world and the astral world. I just read Schierke's and Flora's explanation at the tree house, but it feels incomplete (I guess it is). Anyway, I can't wait to see these parts animated, but it'll be a few years before that happens. :/

Also, I'm eager to hear anything about the soundtrack. I'm pretty sure Hirasawa will work on it, maybe not the whole soundtrack, but at least a couple of songs. He's done something in every Berserk related media outside the manga until now, I see no reason for that changing. And I don't think he would be busy enough in order to deny at least one composition.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on February 02, 2011, 03:00:11 AM
Hahaha you guys overreacted way too much to what I said. It's not like my input will at all affect how the movie actually turns out, it was just an opinion.

Anyway yeah, I feel the first 3 volumes are pretty bad when compared to Berserk overall. Opinion. You can argue that I just don't get it but that's the way it is. The art was pretty weak as far as Berserk goes. When you get to later volumes the art gives a whole lot more depth to Guts character. He's silent a lot so what he looks like by way of the art really matters. So in the early volumes Guts just seems like a really shallow "grim and dark" character (think Sasuke from Naruto). It wasn't until the Golden Age where I feel Miura hit his stride with really capturing expressions that reflected a more complicated state of mind. So I feel if they animated the first 3 volumes Guts character design would have to be updated to be closer to what he looks like around volume 15 so it actually looks like he has something going on in his head. I'm sure the animators will do this. The character design of him done on that promo poster looks really good.

The Golden Age introduced all these interesting side characters and Guts had relationships to deal with and the reader got a much better sense of him as a character. It wasn't grim and dark all the time, which is good, because stories suffer if they have too much darkness. There were moments of punctuated graphic violence in the midst of interesting bits of character development, romance, and intrigue. That I think would appeal to audiences more than just a guy with a sword cutting up demons for 1.5 hours alongside a comic relief character. I think that would alienate a lot of people.

Also it might seem that I think volumes 14-22 were bad because of what I just said but I feel Miura's art had much more intensity to it at that point and was able to add depth the the characters. His writing was also better and each section with an apostle really contributed to the themes in the manga. Also at that point we the audience are already clear about Guts motivations and knew him as a character, so it's fun to see him slice up demons for a while. Because we're MAD at those demons for what they did during the Eclipse.

Anyway that's my two cents. Don't take it personally.



Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Harbinger on February 02, 2011, 04:01:54 AM
WE ARE HARBINGER (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/harbinger.wav)

Hahaha you guys overreacted way too much to what I said. It's not like my input will at all affect how the movie actually turns out, it was just an opinion.

Anyway yeah, I feel the first 3 volumes are pretty bad when compared to Berserk overall. Opinion. You can argue that I just don't get it but that's the way it is.

YOU ARE IGNORANT_WE ARE KNOWING (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/ignorant.wav)

The art was pretty weak as far as Berserk goes. When you get to later volumes the art gives a whole lot more depth to Guts character. He's silent a lot so what he looks like by way of the art really matters. So in the early volumes Guts just seems like a really shallow "grim and dark" character (think Sasuke from Naruto). It wasn't until the Golden Age where I feel Miura hit his stride with really capturing expressions that reflected a more complicated state of mind. So I feel if they animated the first 3 volumes Guts character design would have to be updated to be closer to what he looks like around volume 15 so it actually looks like he has something going on in his head. I'm sure the animators will do this. The character design of him done on that promo poster looks really good.

THIS DELAY IS POINTLESS (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/delay.wav)

The Golden Age introduced all these interesting side characters and Guts had relationships to deal with and the reader got a much better sense of him as a character. It wasn't grim and dark all the time, which is good, because stories suffer if they have too much darkness.

PITIFUL (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/pitiful.wav)

There were moments of punctuated graphic violence in the midst of interesting bits of character development, romance, and intrigue.

CONTINUE (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/continue.wav)

That I think would appeal to audiences more than just a guy with a sword cutting up demons for 1.5 hours alongside a comic relief character.

YOU HAVE FAILED (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/failed.wav)

I think that would alienate a lot of people.

IRRELEVANT (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/irrelevant.wav)

Also it might seem that I think volumes 14-22 were bad because of what I just said

I SENSE YOUR WEAKNESS (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/weakness.wav)

but I feel Miura's art had much more intensity to it at that point and was able to add depth the the characters. His writing was also better and each section with an apostle really contributed to the themes in the manga. Also at that point we the audience are already clear about Guts motivations and knew him as a character, so it's fun to see him slice up demons for a while. Because we're MAD at those demons for what they did during the Eclipse.

YOUR FORM IS FRAGILE (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/fragile.wav)

Anyway that's my two cents. Don't take it personally.

THIS BODYS PAIN IS IRRELEVANT (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/play.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/harbinger/body.wav)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on February 02, 2011, 04:24:20 AM
When you get to later volumes the art gives a whole lot more depth to Guts character. He's silent a lot so what he looks like by way of the art really matters. So in the early volumes Guts just seems like a really shallow "grim and dark" character (think Sasuke from Naruto).

Guts was never a shallow character, and certainly not in volumes 1-3. If you've read it, you should recall how Guts threw up after he cut the daughter of the priest in half. She had only gone out of the carriage to calm the horses, but it was enough to get killed. Neither her nor the priest would have died if Guts had not agreed to travel with them. He knew that too. And as much as he wanted to deny his fault or that he cared about their deaths to Puck after the event, the reality of how he felt lies in his actions. He was completely defenseless to the girl stabbing him. And when he cut her in half, Guts threw up as the girls blood splattered on his face. And there was nothing he could do to stop it. 

There's also Guts' reaction to when Vargas was caught, and both before and after he was executed. Guts had a tear in his eye when Vargas made his plea and his head was chopped off. The demon child's head resembling Vargas' also hints at how Guts felt. Vargas' mutilated body reminded him of what he himself lost. He could relate to him, and understood Vargas' desire for revenge. At the same time, he knew he couldn't save Vargas. He was just one man, and the execution was also a trap.
Another incident is when the Snail Count died. If you read the volume you should recall how much it pained Guts to become the center of Theresia's hate. He took the burden anyway, as it was the only way he could think of to motivate her to keep on living.

There's actually a lot more to these events, so don't let my hasty and poorly detailed analysis of them fool you. The unfortunate thing is that apparently you didn't even notice any of these details, yet you're claiming that Guts' seemed very shallow in the early volumes.

The art goes a long way now. But even in volumes 1-3, it wasn't just the art. It was Guts' actions that revealed the true nature of his character. And that's true even now.

You can argue that I just don't get it but that's the way it is.

Don't worry, there's no need to argue that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on February 02, 2011, 05:54:14 AM
Hahaha you guys overreacted way too much to what I said. It's not like my input will at all affect how the movie actually turns out, it was just an opinion.

Anyway yeah, I feel the first 3 volumes are pretty bad when compared to Berserk overall. Opinion. You can argue that I just don't get it but that's the way it is. The art was pretty weak as far as Berserk goes. When you get to later volumes the art gives a whole lot more depth to Guts character. He's silent a lot so what he looks like by way of the art really matters. So in the early volumes Guts just seems like a really shallow "grim and dark" character (think Sasuke from Naruto). It wasn't until the Golden Age where I feel Miura hit his stride with really capturing expressions that reflected a more complicated state of mind. So I feel if they animated the first 3 volumes Guts character design would have to be updated to be closer to what he looks like around volume 15 so it actually looks like he has something going on in his head. I'm sure the animators will do this. The character design of him done on that promo poster looks really good.

The Golden Age introduced all these interesting side characters and Guts had relationships to deal with and the reader got a much better sense of him as a character. It wasn't grim and dark all the time, which is good, because stories suffer if they have too much darkness. There were moments of punctuated graphic violence in the midst of interesting bits of character development, romance, and intrigue. That I think would appeal to audiences more than just a guy with a sword cutting up demons for 1.5 hours alongside a comic relief character. I think that would alienate a lot of people.

Also it might seem that I think volumes 14-22 were bad because of what I just said but I feel Miura's art had much more intensity to it at that point and was able to add depth the the characters. His writing was also better and each section with an apostle really contributed to the themes in the manga. Also at that point we the audience are already clear about Guts motivations and knew him as a character, so it's fun to see him slice up demons for a while. Because we're MAD at those demons for what they did during the Eclipse.

Anyway that's my two cents. Don't take it personally.


To be honest I'm having a hard time replying to this.  It's just that I didn't know there was a Collector on SKnet and it's intimidating.  I'm suddenly feeling irrelevant. :magni: He's also apparently the world's biggest Berserk fan.  Who knew?

Ramen summed this up pretty well.  You're fully welcome to your opinion, it's just that there's a lot of depth there that you're either ignoring or fail to see.  I think you should try re-reading 1-3.  And then maybe again.  There's a lot said about guts as a character.  You could actually flip to many parts of Berserk and think "Wow, he's just chopping up demons, this Guts guy must be shallow" but that's just what it looks like on the outside, to those who aren't fully familiar with the journey he is on.  

I can understand that you'd like parts of the Manga better than other parts.  But to dismiss the beginning as lacking in depth is an opinion devoid of sense.  Arguing that the art isn't up to par is similar to arguing that games that don't use turn of the century motion and face capture are unable to evoke emotion or pull a heartstring - In fact those games in particular I thought were especially touching or say full of depth, though on the surface they were rudimentary (lacking in polygons) and crudely textured, yet the characters embodied were fully believable.  Anyhow, that's my opinion.  Mine isn't worth more than yours.  Unless your opinion is wrong... :slan:

Seriously though, try going through them again.  I think you'd be surprised with what you find.  
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on February 02, 2011, 09:52:40 AM
If they do start with the Black swordsman arc, i wonder whether they will delve in the mystery that is the first page?

Guts: hey gurl you so fine! :guts:
*bass slappin'*
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on February 02, 2011, 06:22:06 PM
I just wanted to say that volume 1 to 3 is the most nauseating read i ever had, outside of Clive Barker. And i say it in a good way, of course. If it had "better" art, it wouldn't feel as bleak and forbbiding. That style is what gives depth to the characters and the depicted world. Ah shit, i just read Naruto on your post, why am i replying anyway?

By the way, every character design in that promo poster is fucking awful, there i said it.

Quote
because stories suffer if they have too much darkness.

Seriously man, your opinion fucking blows.



(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/skullsmoke.gif)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on February 02, 2011, 06:33:16 PM
If they do start with the Black swordsman arc, i wonder whether they will delve in the mystery that is the first page?

Guts: hey gurl you so fine! :guts:
*bass slappin'*

That feels so out of character. I'm sure people around here might have an explanation that makes it fit, but it feels like it was just a page designed to draw attention for the first episode, and later things changed a bit. If that's the case they will probably remove it. It doesn't really add anything, anyway. (If he taped that with gusto, he would definitely go for Slan when given the chance. I know I would. :guts:)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Eluvei on February 02, 2011, 07:37:52 PM
That feels so out of character. I'm sure people around here might have an explanation that makes it fit, but it feels like it was just a page designed to draw attention for the first episode, and later things changed a bit. If that's the case they will probably remove it. It doesn't really add anything, anyway. (If he taped that with gusto, he would definitely go for Slan when given the chance. I know I would. :guts:)

Get real. It's not to "draw attention", it's to convey a mood. To show us in as few pages as possible what the manga was all about. It's necessary to make readers curious about the main character, about the world around him, about everything. If you don't think that's something, you're out of your element. (http://i.imgur.com/OBj9W.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on February 02, 2011, 07:45:46 PM
That feels so out of character. I'm sure people around here might have an explanation that makes it fit

More than one really, but suffices to say that Guts was at his darkest hour. You can see it as a glimpse of the path he might have followed had he never met Puck. In a way, when you relate it to his hatred of being touched at that time (a return of the symptoms of his childhood trauma that Casca's love had cured in volume 9), it can be seen as being as self-destructive as his use of the Berserk's armor. An utter disregard for himself within his quest for revenge.

If that's the case they will probably remove it. It doesn't really add anything, anyway. (If he taped that with gusto, he would definitely go for Slan when given the chance. I know I would. :guts:)

I can't say I'd mind too much if they modified it somewhat (him luring the apostle and killing her without them having sex), but removing it altogether would also mean losing the tie-in with Carcus' death during the Occultation ceremony, and that'd suck.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on February 03, 2011, 12:42:48 AM
Get real. It's not to "draw attention", it's to convey a mood. To show us in as few pages as possible what the manga was all about. It's necessary to make readers curious about the main character, about the world around him, about everything. If you don't think that's something, you're out of your element. (http://i.imgur.com/OBj9W.jpg)


...

So... yeah... to draw attention. It's clearly an impacting first page. The author didn't make it like that for nothing. I won't say it's bad or anything, it's not, I don't hate the scene or anything. But as you said it yourself, he made that his first page in order to convey the mood and make the reader get interested. He chose to make an impacting first page, and that's no coincidence. Even with all the meaning in the world, a comic book is planed, that's all I said there.  :serpico:




More than one really, but suffices to say that Guts was at his darkest hour. You can see it as a glimpse of the path he might have followed had he never met Puck. In a way, when you relate it to his hatred of being touched at that time (a return of the symptoms of his childhood trauma that Casca's love had cured in volume 9), it can be seen as being as self-destructive as his use of the Berserk's armor. An utter disregard for himself within his quest for revenge.

I can't say I'd mind too much if they modified it somewhat (him luring the apostle and killing her without them having sex), but removing it altogether would also mean losing the tie-in with Carcus' death during the Occultation ceremony, and that'd suck.

That's what I was thinking the second time, but then I thought I was probably reading too much into it and it was just a cool scene. I guess I don't give enough credit to things sometimes, but thank God I'm open to change my views.

Except in the days I'm too grumpy.  :schierke:

Him killing the apostle it's fine, and I gotta say it is a cool scene. I guess the scene still annoys me a bit nowadays because it's just... sad, seeing Guts doing that. As you said it. He was his lowest there. Depressing. But at least she was good looking. I jest.

(do I? :troll:)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on February 03, 2011, 02:10:25 AM
I was re-reading the first volumes, and the impact it gives is still immense. In terms of tone, it's just pitch-perfect, and the change to the golden age makes it even more poignant. Flawless. There's no denying it, the foundations of this manga are top-notch.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on February 03, 2011, 02:29:34 AM
I guess it's why so many people say the first volumes are their favorites. The atmosphere there is unique. Miura works with shadows so well...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Darkman on February 03, 2011, 09:47:34 PM
A little Introduction of myself, its my first post. :magni:

I learned of Berserk the original anime by Chance and rented it off of netflix.  At the time I never knew of any manga nor did I know manga existed.  As a kid I always watched Horror films, Evil Dead, Hellraiser, Halloween, Phantasm and the likes.  I was born into Horror and Horror scores and Berserk as the anime was more epic and more mysterious, more dark than any of those old Horror films.  The anime was jaw dropping I watched it at the edge of my seat for like 2 or 3 days and at the ending I was like Oh my it ends like that.  

For the longest time I thought thats it, then I started searching is that the end and stumbled accross Dark Horse Comics and picked up the whole collection that is available thus far.  No disipointments just a sensational piece of art.  I just wished I read and knew of the manga before viewing the anime as the original anime missed many areas and did a great injustice to the first three volumes.  I always felt that first anime episode never felt right and I was in for a pleasent surprise reading the manga and finding differences and the chunks of darkly fascinating material left out.  While the anime is still great the manga is that much better period.

It doesn't get anymore chilling than first stumbling upon concepts of the brand, the beherit, and the mysteries of a warrior's past.  

The first invocation of doom :void:,

The First sight of the God Hand :ubik:

and its immense power and intrigue :schnoz:,

a great battle against The Count, the serpent, the forests, dead warriors :badbone:

and one crazy bad ass dude :guts: going after a endless hoard of demons :zodd:.  

To me the first three volumes through to the end of The Guardians of Desire episodes is Berserk at its greatest hour.  I could go on and on but this would make for one hell of a 3 hour anime film to kick off the anime in a satisfying and correct manner.  

With all the action and suspense, flashbacks to a long dead friendship (Guts and Griffith) :femto: As most of you guys have said everthing is introduced here how can you not start with this.  

BTW great forum, the information and continuing effort to keep up to date with the manga is greatly appreciated and I hope this stays alive for many years to come.  Definitly a nice place for Berserk fans to get together.

All Hail Berserk :beast:  
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on February 03, 2011, 11:01:16 PM
Welcome Darkman!

I'm not going to jump into this and quote other people, all I'll say is that I love the Black Swordsman arc as much as anything in Berserk and I truly hope they make those first three books into an epic anime to kick it off. Nothing would give me greater pleasure. That's how the series starts, so if they want to remain as faithful as possible there's no other way to do it.  It wouldn't feel right if they just skipped all that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on February 05, 2011, 07:24:46 AM
Alright well I hope whatever they do turns out awesome. It'd be nice to see Femto and the rest of the God Hand animated in proper form. If they manage it right it could be very awesome.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on February 05, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
I'm not going to jump into this and quote other people, all I'll say is that I love the Black Swordsman arc as much as anything in Berserk and I truly hope they make those first three books into an epic anime to kick it off. Nothing would give me greater pleasure. That's how the series starts, so if they want to remain as faithful as possible there's no other way to do it.  It wouldn't feel right if they just skipped all that.

agreed
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on February 07, 2011, 08:42:52 PM
I really hope that the graphics of new Berserk movie will be much better than what we've seen in CMs.
Because CMs animation is worse than Berserk 1997 anime (I dont mean 1997 sux, I like it,  and CMs looking pitiful even comparing to it)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on February 07, 2011, 08:58:21 PM
Because CMs animation is worse than Berserk 1997 anime (I dont mean 1997 sux, I like it,  and CMs looking pitiful even comparing to it)
I'm not sure how  you can say that. In terms of the number of frames used for animation, you're  just plain wrong. The CMs showed much more fluid animation than was evident in any scene of the 1997 anime, which used several hours worth of keyframe movement to "fake" an animation effect.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on February 08, 2011, 03:06:25 AM
In terms of animation it looks better. In terms of design, it looks worse. Which one do you prefer?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on February 08, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
If so, I'd say design. Lets wait for the trailer, maybe they will change something
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on February 08, 2011, 08:35:21 AM
I find both the 1997 anime and the new footage to be adequate for their times. Of course I'd like them to look better, but I'm not going to mind it too much either way.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on February 08, 2011, 08:38:02 AM
In terms of animation it looks better. In terms of design, it looks worse. Which one do you prefer?

I'm not sure I'd say the design is worse at this point. It's not as good as I wish it were, but I never liked the TV series' character design either compared to that of the manga.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Xem on February 08, 2011, 08:38:16 PM
I'd say the still-frames were the most annoying part (aside from the Adon additions) in the original animation for me. If they can get rid of those and not be afraid to stay absolutely true to the manga then the "style" won't matter much to me.

Of course I say this now... we'll see.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on February 09, 2011, 12:12:08 AM
Meh. Style always changes when making the transition to animation. How much it changes it's what differs. Go take a look at some anime, and compare to the manga, and you'll see sometimes you can barely recognize the characters. If I'm not mistaken, a good current example is Fractale. The anime's design is much simpler than the manga, and not in a necessary way.

Berserk's manga style is great. We know that use of dark strokes can't be made into a series of movies/TV series. Maybe they could spend a lot and make one single (incredibly awesome and Oscar candidate) movie trying to replicate the manga panels, down to the minimum details, but that's it. So, since that will be gone, what remains is the character design and use of color. And from what I can tell, the new design is a bit more faithful than the 97 one. But then, there's only one poster, and those are not always a precise indication of the final product. Also, the CMs are just that, and won't be in any movie, so it may be different.

I'm not saying anything new though, I know... In the end, we need to wait for the movie's trailers/CMs (those were not it).

I'm a bit worried with Guts' face, but his face in the poster resembles a lot Miura's current design, so they might be going that direction.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on February 09, 2011, 12:39:58 AM
Meh. Style always changes when making the transition to animation. How much it changes it's what differs. Go take a look at some anime, and compare to the manga, and you'll see sometimes you can barely recognize the characters.

Fractale is an original anime, those other pictures from before the anime were concept art, but they do look a lot more simple and they changed hair color around for some reason. A good example of differences in character design this season would be Level E, where the adaption character designs look more pleasing to the eye than the original manga designs. Don't think that's possible with Miura though, they can only be made simpler for animation.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on February 09, 2011, 12:37:10 PM
I'm a bit worried with Guts' face, but his face in the poster resembles a lot Miura's current design, so they might be going that direction.

Sh*****t  I hate Miura's current design, the Best Guts I know is from 12-26 volumes of manga. I love that style!
But from 28 to 35 volumes Guts' design is crap, the face especially  :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on February 09, 2011, 02:54:24 PM
Sh*****t  I hate Miura's current design, the Best Guts I know is from 12-26 volumes of manga. I love that style!
But from 28 to 35 volumes Guts' design is crap, the face especially  :judo:
...You do realize that Guts is looking gaunt and emaciated because of extended use of the Berserk Armor, and the long-term effects of walking around with ethereal wounds, right...?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on February 09, 2011, 03:09:16 PM
Sh*****t  I hate Miura's current design, the Best Guts I know is from 12-26 volumes of manga. I love that style!
But from 28 to 35 volumes Guts' design is crap, the face especially  :judo:

I hear ya. And what's up with all those jagged lines on his face? It's like Miura learn to use an eraser will ya.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on February 09, 2011, 04:28:24 PM
Sh*****t  I hate Miura's current design, the Best Guts I know is from 12-26 volumes of manga. I love that style!
But from 28 to 35 volumes Guts' design is crap, the face especially  :judo:
I wholeheartedly disagree. I love Guts now, all banged up and scarred and shocked white hair. I'm a man and I have no problem admitting he's just so HANDSOME. Here, just look:
(http://www.erikthejuiceman.com/handsomeguts1.gif)
Also this:
(http://www.erikthejuiceman.com/handsomeguts2.gif)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: geo jee on February 09, 2011, 04:56:59 PM
...You do realize that Guts is looking gaunt and emaciated because of extended use of the Berserk Armor, and the long-term effects of walking around with ethereal wounds, right...?

Really I didn't know that, I thought the Armor affected his senses in terms of sight, smell and the ethereal wound affected his ability to fight, but his shape, man I just thought Miura was just developing his drawing style like he has been doing all time, could you give us your reference, please?   

EDIT: If you are meaning for his loss of weight then I get you, just got confused for a moment.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on February 09, 2011, 05:11:00 PM
Really I didn't know that, I thought the Armor affected his senses in terms of sight, smell and the ethereal wound affected his ability to fight,
You're misunderstanding. The armor itself doesn't drain his body, apart from the aforementioned loss of senses. But using it in battle puts him in situations where his body is severely taxed. His bones break or shatter, he bleeds profusely, his muscles are stretched to their limits, and after all that, he isn't given a chance to really heal before he has to don the armor again, since he's the crux of the group. I don't really think I need to cite every example of Schierke warning Guts not to use the armor because of the physical toll it takes on his body. But you can see volumes 26-XX for more.

Quote
but his shape, man I just thought Miura was just developing his drawing style like he has been doing all time, could you give us your reference, please?   
I don't really think I need to cite every example of Schierke warning Guts not to use the armor because of the physical toll it takes on his body. But you can see volumes 26-XX for more.

Guts starts to look gaunt at the end of Vol 27, which is the first time we see the group following the fight at Flora's mansion, and Guts' first use of the armor. The ethereal wounds won't stay closed, and reopen after each battle.

Here's what Schierke says about those days after the fight:
Quote
Schierke - He kept bleeding for days because the armour stuck onto him.
Schierke - And once we finally took it off, he lost consciousness and awakened from the pain over and over. And everytime, his wounds would open again.
And this is just a prelude to what happens later, on the piers of Vritannis, when he's impaled by a Makara, then roasted, and flung around for a few rounds with Daiba and Ganishka.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: geo jee on February 09, 2011, 05:37:07 PM
Actually, what Walter said points me to what Flora said in Volume 24 when she implied that the talisman intended to oppose a powerful curse had a time limit, but still was enough for the length of Guts journey, could that mean that Guts life span is decreasing rapidly, along with the story itself, thus the end of the story is coming sooner than we thought (although I know that Miura could make the end of this story continue for 100 volumes if he wanted to), Also Guts health rapidly deteriorating, Griffith having his own castle, the coming of Fantasia (the dark era), this hole film adaptation and the news of a project that will cover all the manga strongly says that we are heading to the finale, so what you think?  :schnoz:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on February 09, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
Also Guts health rapidly deteriorating, Griffith having his own castle, the coming of Fantasia (the dark era), this hole film adaptation and the news of a project that will cover all the manga strongly says that we are heading to the finale, so what you think?  :schnoz:

Not really, no. Miura stated in our letter that he was 60-70% done and that was two years ago. As for the new animation, if they were to start at the beginning and faithfully cover the whole story it would take years and years for them to catch up to the manga, at which point the manga would have advanced even further.

Personally, I think the whole fantasia thing with Griffith finally attaining his kingdom is only the next of several remaining arcs, and with the length of the arcs, it's not an ending of any sort, just the next stage of the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on February 09, 2011, 05:49:08 PM
Actually, what Walter said points me to what Flora said in Volume 24 when she implied that the talisman intended to oppose a powerful curse had a time limit, but still was enough for the length of Guts journey, could that mean that Guts life span is decreasing rapidly, along with the story itself, thus the end of the story is coming sooner than we thought (although I know that Miura could make the end of this story continue for 100 volumes if he wanted to), Also Guts health rapidly deteriorating, Griffith having his own castle, the coming of Fantasia (the dark era), this hole film adaptation and the news of a project that will cover all the manga strongly says that we are heading to the finale, so what you think?  :schnoz:
I think Guts' health has got to deteriorate A WHOLE LOT MORE if he's gonna die or something, like you seem to think. Even if Guts comes close to dying due to the Berserker armor, that doesn't necessarily means he'll "die." Just look at Skully!

To me, the coming of Fantasia means that there's a whole layer of this story that needs to be explored. Sure we saw unicorns and dragons already, but how will this affect the people? The Sea God is just the beginning.

And just because the anime is going to adapt the entirety of the manga, it doesn't mean the manga's gonna end any time soon. Miura can keep drawing at his pace and they'll have plenty of material to animate each year.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on February 09, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
Actually, what Walter said points me to what Flora said in Volume 24 when she implied that the talisman intended to oppose a powerful curse had a time limit, but still was enough for the length of Guts journey

Flora was referring to the Brand.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on February 10, 2011, 01:20:47 AM
Man, Guts looks awesome these days, c'mon. He's so competent now. I totally have a man-crush on current Guts.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on February 10, 2011, 02:08:37 AM
Quote
...You do realize that Guts is looking gaunt and emaciated because of extended use of the Berserk Armor, and the long-term effects of walking around with ethereal wounds, right...?

He may be bonier now, but the overall drawing style of Guts did change drastically over the years. His nose is now much rounder, his mouth bigger, etc. He almost looks like a Marvel character sometimes. That was Miura's intention of sophisticating him, and not just the work of the armor.

Personally, I just love his appearance now. Very mature looking and detailed. Sure, he looks less of a "standard manga character", but  Miura has worked for so long with different styles, and I hope he's gonna keep evolving in the future years.

His skills have attained such a high level of complexity that I now compare him to artists like Salvador Dali  :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on February 10, 2011, 02:25:16 AM
He may be bonier now, but the overall drawing style of Guts did change drastically over the years. His nose is now much rounder, his mouth bigger, etc. He almost looks like a Marvel character sometimes. That was Miura's intention of sophisticating him, and not just the work of the armor.
Why limit it to Guts? Miura's style has developed over time, which encompasses all characters. It's been evolving since the very beginning. My point was that Guts' appearance is dramatically different now than it was several years ago, and it has nothing to do with a stylistic change.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on February 10, 2011, 02:26:29 AM
I wholeheartedly disagree. I love Guts now, all banged up and scarred and shocked white hair. I'm a man and I have no problem admitting he's just so HANDSOME. Here, just look:


Agreed. I wouldn't change current Guts for anything in the past. I just hope he gets to remain human till the end of the story. I wouldn't be particularly happy if he ended up like SK, except with the Berserk's armor. I like him scarred, burned and human. It gives the highest impact cost ratio for struggling with the brand, protecting Casca and his friends all while paying a heavy price with his tortured body. Not that becoming a cold steel shell wouldn't be more tragic, but visually, this is hard to top.

Actually.. Now I'm curious to know if Casca will comment on the sorry state Guts will be in by the time they make it to Elfhelm.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on February 10, 2011, 02:30:15 AM
Why limit it to Guts? Miura's style has developed over time, which encompasses all characters. It's been evolving since the very beginning. My point is that Guts' appearance is dramatically different now than it was several years ago, and it has nothing to do with a stylistic change.

That is correct, but the art style also changed a lot and that's mainly what some people complain about. I don't agree with them  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on February 10, 2011, 01:53:13 PM
Man, Guts looks awesome these days, c'mon. He's so competent now. I totally have a man-crush on current Guts.

Yeah, he's a total hunk.  Incredibly handsome.  I love the way he is represented in the Manga right now.  It'll be interesting to see how he looks by the end of the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on February 10, 2011, 02:09:52 PM
About the Berserk Movie, do we have any news on it? Hey how do you think If they dont have even a trailer for now, can they produce entire movie till the mid of 2011 ?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on February 10, 2011, 02:36:31 PM
About the Berserk Movie, do we have any news on it? Hey how do you think If they dont have even a trailer for now, can they produce entire movie till the mid of 2011 ?

Not having a trailer done doesn't mean they don't have any material done. They will probably wait a bit to release a trailer, unrelated to how much of the movie is done.


About his looks, armor or not, the design indeed changed a bit, but I like it. The transition is kinda smooth and reading the books from Vol. 1 to Vol. 31 I'm not once displeased or taken out of the reading by any changes in design. It all fits. It's all great since the beginning. :)

In the "movie's poster" his face is less rounded and resembles more the current design. But in the CM, it didn't quite look like that. So I have no idea.

But I'm pretty sure the end result won't be bad. If it's better than the first adaptation, I'm already pleased.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Saephon on February 11, 2011, 10:38:23 AM
I love that Miura's art style has grown over the past 20 years, just like the story has pulled back to reveal many layers of complexity. Everything plot-wise and art-wise, from the first episode to the newest one, has changed over time and I love every bit of the journey so far. One thing readers never fail to forget when it comes to the increasing breaks in publication is how much detail there is in the current episodes. Yes, Berserk has always been incredibly detailed, but it has become more fantastic with time, with no end in sight. So shut it. /end rant   :azan:

Back on topic, Oburi and a bunch of others have already said it, but my highest hopes are for the movie to cover the Black Swordsman arc as faithfully as possible; only hints at the Golden Age (Hey! like the manga!  :troll:) Pleasepleasepleaseplease...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on February 25, 2011, 09:22:43 PM
Using footage from the new Berserk CMs to put Skull Knight in the original anime:

http://www.youtube.com/v/LMKiKi9RLqE


Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on February 25, 2011, 10:02:56 PM
This makes me happy.  What a great atmosphere.  I can only imagine how freaky it would be to have Skull Knight show up in the middle of a dark forest. 
Being alone in the dark, with just a fire would creep me out sincerely. 

Great use of sound effects by the way.  I like the tweaks you made to the footage.  SK is masked in shadow when he first shows up, good attention to detail there.  It's appropriately dark.

I think the studio working on the new anime should hire some of the experts here to ensure accuracy to the source material. :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: KuraiDragoon on February 26, 2011, 08:14:40 AM
Holy shit that was awesome!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Darkman on February 26, 2011, 10:18:35 AM
Bravo :ubik:

I liked that very nice addition to the recut. 

Indeed that was one of many important parts of the story that was left out of the original anime. :puck: 

Such a chilling atmosphere and such a crucial usage of forshadowing events to come. 
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: geo jee on February 26, 2011, 11:04:41 AM
Bravo :ubik:

I liked that very nice addition to the recut. 

Indeed that was one of many important parts of the story that was left out of the original anime. :puck: 

Such a chilling atmosphere and such a crucial usage of forshadowing events to come. 

I second that, you can make it a bit bigger if you want by inserting other parts of his departure (like his hole encounter with Griffith) while looking at the fire.
But other than that, one hell of a Recut. :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: PublicEnemy on March 06, 2011, 05:32:44 PM
I am glad to see more info about the new Berserk series/films came out. I stopped coming on here because of no news but I'm glad I came back. Griffith recut seems to be doing good as well.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on March 10, 2011, 11:06:55 PM
FINALLY a new tweet.  Too bad it just says "I know I haven't updated in a while.  I will as soon as there is a new story" (or something of the sort).  I've been waiting forever!  It's been almost 2 months since something "new" has been said!  I want a new trailer puhlleeease! :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on March 12, 2011, 12:51:22 AM
The fucker can at least fucking throw us a pencil test. Gah... fuckin' Twitterman... BE MORE GOOD.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on March 18, 2011, 07:28:35 AM
Some new tweets finally.
 
http://twitter.com/berserk_project
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on March 18, 2011, 12:44:10 PM
So, finally confirmation that Miura's okay.

And some new Puck goodness http://www.hakusensha.co.jp/message/index.html
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on March 18, 2011, 12:57:35 PM
So, finally confirmation that Miura's okay.

And some new Puck goodness http://www.hakusensha.co.jp/message/index.html

Great stuff. Miura says that since the refugees and victims can't see Hakusensha's website for now, he'd rather make a message for those who aren't in these places (the non-victims). And that though they've already been doing like that, they should:

:puck: Not panic-buy (don't uselessly stock on stuff)
:puck: Save (don't waste)
:puck: Donate
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on March 18, 2011, 03:25:54 PM
Fantastic news. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Oburi on March 18, 2011, 03:40:54 PM
Truely awesome. Thatnks for the update guys!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aphasia on March 18, 2011, 03:56:29 PM
This is awesome! Puck illustrating these points makes my day.  It's great to know he's okay.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on March 18, 2011, 06:16:11 PM
Great stuff. Miura says that since the refugees and victims can't see Hakusensha's website for now, he'd rather make a message for those who aren't in these places (the non-victims). And that though they've already been doing like that, they should:

:puck: Not panic-buy (don't uselessly stock on stuff)
:puck: Save (don't waste)
:puck: Donate

Whew, glad Miura's okay. Very good advice, too. If only his message could reach those in California (and now in WA State :schierke:) who are taking potassium iodide pills in preparation for the atomic cloud of death that doesn't actually exist. Don't panic-ingest! :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: puella on March 18, 2011, 07:18:49 PM
I believed Miura was OK. However it feels good to be totally reassured now that it's been confirmed.
Even in such a simple illustration, his great talent can't be hidden. Concise, intelligent, effective and modest.
Thinking Miura should save electricity and necessities breaks my heart. :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on March 18, 2011, 11:25:40 PM
Such good news! It seemed like all my favorite mangaka were the last to be confirmed during this whole thing.  :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Ramen4ever on March 19, 2011, 01:39:32 AM
Great stuff. Miura says that since the refugees and victims can't see Hakusensha's website for now, he'd rather make a message for those who aren't in these places (the non-victims). And that though they've already been doing like that, they should:

:puck: Not panic-buy (don't uselessly stock on stuff)
:puck: Save (don't waste)
:puck: Donate

Smart man.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on March 24, 2011, 07:19:34 AM
Is claymore a CG anime? I don't really don't know any particular CG based anime, or even if I've seen one. But I did just watch the entire series of Claymore (which I loved) and it was beautiful IMO.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Xem on March 24, 2011, 01:10:15 PM
Is claymore a CG anime? I don't really don't know any particular CG based anime, or even if I've seen one. But I did just watch the entire series of Claymore (which I loved) and it was beautiful IMO.

I'm pretty sure it works like this. There's regular animation, like Akira, then there's CG, like Toy Story. Berserk (I think) will be a combination of the two.... like Ghost in the Shell or somethin'.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on March 24, 2011, 02:54:42 PM
I'm pretty sure it works like this. There's regular animation, like Akira, then there's CG, like Toy Story. Berserk (I think) will be a combination of the two.... like Ghost in the Shell or somethin'.

I'm pretty sure that explanation doesn't work.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on March 24, 2011, 06:54:37 PM
CG is because it's made solely, well, on computers. The animation is not done traditionally style, drawing frame by frame, and they can use 3D models. In the case of Berserk they will probably use motion capture for animation and 3D models with textures that give you the anime look. It's probably less costly, but it never has that rough look traditional animation has, looking too clean most of the time. It works fine for sterile looks like science fiction and mecha anime, not so much for Berserk... So a very good art direction will be necessary. I'm confident they will make it look good.

But hell, sometimes I miss the old rough look 80s/90s animating had, current ones are already too clean, even when not fully CG. When you have a hard, violent, or medieval world, you could say "gritty", that old look complements the mood IMO. I never noticed it back then, but when I started seeing modern anime... I felt the change.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on March 26, 2011, 06:10:02 PM
From the ads it looks like they're using traditional animation for the characters but may use CG for the complicated armor and for certain characters like Skull Knight. The recent Mad House anime version of Iron Man did that, using traditional animation for the human characters but CG for the cars, robots, and for Iron Man's armor. Fullmetal Alchemist also did it recently with Envy being animated sometimes as a cell-shaded 3D model, and sometimes switching him to traditional when they wanted a lot of stuff to pulsate or something. They don't change over in the same shot though.
It's complicated with Berserk though because Guts doesn't wear a mask most of the time (except when he's in Berserker mode) so they might chose to composite a traditionally animated head onto a CG armor body which could come out looking a little weird. Or they could use all CG for the action scenes where there's a lot of Guts in his armor moving around.

Japan seems to know that CG doesn't look as good as traditional so they try to avoid it, but sometimes it's just too convenient and cost effective to use CG. That's why it's really awesome when you've got modern anime like Gurren Lagaan that don't use CG for the mechas; It's becoming a rarity. Whereas in America producers seem to think that CG sells, so shows that don't need to be done with CG (like the new Green Lantern series) are being done with it even though it's more expensive.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on April 01, 2011, 11:49:39 PM
This better start with some guts on apostle action or i'm boyco... oh yeah, i've said this before.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on April 02, 2011, 01:10:15 PM
Great explanations Megatron and CBS. I'll never forget you guys. BTW, could some email me when the new anime comes out... wherever I am. :judo:

Why people think I'm a Decepticon?  :judo:

Anyway, are you going on a journey for enlightenment or something? "Whatever you are"? :D

I just wish we had more news soon, but with the tsunami, I'm thinking the movie will be delayed. Since there was no confirmation it would be released this year before, I bet it'll be postponed for 2012. Though a small trailer would be nice.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on April 02, 2011, 04:18:03 PM
I just wish we had more news soon, but with the tsunami, I'm thinking the movie will be delayed. Since there was no confirmation it would be released this year before, I bet it'll be postponed for 2012. Though a small trailer would be nice.

Well they had announced a theatrical release for this summer, but yeah, given the circumstances it might be delayed.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on April 02, 2011, 07:44:11 PM
2012 ? Thats possible. Oh man If this happen I'll go make sepuku
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on April 03, 2011, 03:01:28 AM
2012 ? Thats possible. Oh man If this happen I'll go make sepuku

You'll go commit sepuku, you mean. Nah, don't do it. Take the delay as one more reason to keep on living. ;)

(I kinda need a huge delay  :void:)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on April 03, 2011, 03:47:10 AM
In comparison to what's going on in Japan right now and the number of people who have died over there, a partial delay in an animated adaptation of Berserk isn't that big of a deal.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on April 03, 2011, 09:15:43 PM
Great explanations Megatron and CBS. I'll never forget you guys. BTW, could some email me when the new anime comes out... wherever I am. :judo:

Where are you going?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Metatron on April 04, 2011, 02:34:44 AM
In comparison to what's going on in Japan right now and the number of people who have died over there, a partial delay in an animated adaptation of Berserk isn't that big of a deal.

Indeed! But still, it's a deal. I can't bring myself to say I the tsunami tragedy altered my interest in the movie, after all.

Hm, it's a personal issue I'm having nowadays. We're talking about Japan's tragedy, but there are many other terrible things happening almost every single day around the world, children dying, war, starvation, etc. And none of those things affect our interests or daily lives. We only feel bad or talk about it when we see the news of what happened, otherwise we keep with our normal lives even if we know there are many people being brutally hurt right now, and not really caring. Because of this I try to refrain from expressing too much sympathy over a known case or disaster, because I start feeling hypocritical. I can't give too much attention to some and in other days forget about the rest, it bothers me. It bothers me some people are remembered, but so many others forgoten. It's how our society works, and it's just... It's been bothering me. I'm not saying it shouldn't be that way. We wouldn't have any mental health if we lived thinking of everything bad that's going on each second. Hypocrisy, I really hate it, and we all are guilty of it. We can often get out of hand and make others suffer or turn our backs to those who need it most. Entire groups of people, forgotten by the developed nations, by all of our society, by countries and people that love to make songs and movies about the plight of the poor and war torn, while at the same time they help keep the machine that consumes them going... So I at least try to control it as much as I can. I want to keep focused on the bigger picture, even though the media makes it difficult. :/

So I can't say I'm not a bit annoyed deep down, but my reason makes it OK.

This wasn't directed to any of you, BTW. It's just something that sticks with me everytime people start discussing one tragedy too much. Uh, hope I didn't stray from the topic too much, though it still relates to the tsunami and movie... Indeed such a tragedy, even though it's useless for me to say anything anymore. Japan is good at recovering, they've been through many hardships. It makes people stronger. I wish for that to happen.

And for a trailer by the end of the year, at least.  :serpico:


Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Infinte on April 30, 2011, 11:41:11 PM
Well they had announced a theatrical release for this summer, but yeah, given the circumstances it might be delayed.

I think you're right but i hope you're wrong, look up this anime guide for what is coming this summer(before someone ask it does include theatrical releases look at the bottom).

Here is the list: http://moetron.com/uploads/20110427_summer_guide.jpg
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on May 01, 2011, 04:37:33 AM
I think it's coming in 2012.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on May 01, 2011, 05:23:46 AM
I think it's coming in 2012.
Based on...?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on May 01, 2011, 09:36:16 AM
I think you're right but i hope you're wrong, look up this anime guide for what is coming this summer(before someone ask it does include theatrical releases look at the bottom).

Here is the list: http://moetron.com/uploads/20110427_summer_guide.jpg

If you look at this guide's sources, you'll see that it's hardly a reference. It's just made for convenience and is basing itself on widely available information from English websites. If anything, it's the lack of official information on the project that is casting doubt on the likeliness of a release within the next 3 months.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Infinte on May 01, 2011, 03:20:23 PM
If you look at this guide's sources, you'll see that it's hardly a reference. It's just made for convenience and is basing itself on widely available information from English websites. If anything, it's the lack of official information on the project that is casting doubt on the likeliness of a release within the next 3 months.

Yeah that's true, but couldn't they like throw us a bone(i think it is called something like that :farnese:) to shed a little bit of light on all this, because i think i speak for most of us when i say that our doubts has grown about it being released this summer after the catastrophe in Japan. Imho i won't be bothered if it's released this summer or 2012 because i've learned something when it comes to Berserk it's worth the wait.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on May 01, 2011, 05:49:59 PM
Worth the wait? Nah that's just the manga you're thinking of.  :troll:

jk. I totally totally agree that the twitter guy NEEDS to fucking do his damn job and give us some info instead of "oops I forgot, new Berserk manga ep in YA yesterday." I demand Yoshi Twitterson be fired from this position and be replaced by someone more twitterful.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on May 01, 2011, 07:40:39 PM
i think i speak for most of us when i say that our doubts has grown about it being released this summer after the catastrophe in Japan.

You know, let's not jump to conclusions here. It might or might not make a difference, but it's not like we had a date before it happened.

Imho i won't be bothered if it's released this summer or 2012 because i've learned something when it comes to Berserk it's worth the wait.

Even if it's delayed a bit that wouldn't necessarily mean a report to 2012. Could be fall 2011.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Tzur on May 02, 2011, 03:22:49 AM
As another poster said, I 'd be extremely happy if they did the series like Hellsing Ultimate. Berserk is such a great series, but it's hard to get people into reading a comic. An animation is a medium to get somebody into a "must" series.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on May 02, 2011, 04:44:15 PM
I wonder how could they do this to us poor Berserk fans  :azan:
Such big project as Berserk movie and no information at all

Or is it how its supposed to be ?   I dont know anything about anime movie creating process, so my question here: "The lack of information about Berserk is OK?" Even Miura didnt say anything about new Berserk. Maybe they dont make any movie at all ?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on May 02, 2011, 04:53:31 PM
As another poster said, I 'd be extremely happy if they did the series like Hellsing Ultimate. Berserk is such a great series, but it's hard to get people into reading a comic. An animation is a medium to get somebody into a "must" series.
Hellsing Ultimate was released as an OVA. The Berserk film animation will be released in theaters.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on May 02, 2011, 05:17:00 PM
"The lack of information about Berserk is OK?"

Yeah it's OK. Just be patient.

Even Miura didnt say anything about new Berserk.

He did, actually. I posted about it a while back.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: berserk36 on May 06, 2011, 02:30:52 AM
Forgive me if it's my question has already been answered but is the Berserk movie coming out only in Japan in Summer 2011 or will it be worldwide (at least USA/Canada/Europe)?

I looked all over Google but I can't understand all the Japanese out there so forgive me if this has been known for a while.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Xem on May 06, 2011, 02:45:45 AM
Japan only.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: berserk36 on May 06, 2011, 03:14:26 AM
Any date when the USA will get it?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on May 06, 2011, 03:45:57 AM
Any date when the USA will get it?

No. It was stated to release in Japan summer 2011 but we haven't heard much more about that.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on May 15, 2011, 05:24:41 AM
The lack of news about this is really starting to worry and bother me. I don't know what to think. Obviously, it would be really nice if we had an update. Even a little "we're doing fine. hold your horses."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Saephon on May 15, 2011, 08:29:26 AM
I think you're just letting the anticipation get to you. This seems like a usual drought of information to me (usual in that most companies don't give updates enough  :slan:). Especially with Japan still being in recovery mode. People don't see Tsunami headlines after a few weeks and assume things are back to normal. They aren't. I agree it'd be nice to hear something, but I'm not expecting to any time soon. I do believe that things are probably going fine, given the circumstances.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on May 15, 2011, 08:43:53 AM
Especially with Japan still being in recovery mode. People don't see Tsunami headlines after a few weeks and assume things are back to normal. They aren't. I agree it'd be nice to hear something, but I'm not expecting to any time soon. I do believe that things are probably going fine, given the circumstances.

And it's not like they gave us a lot of information before the catastrophe happened either. Their communication on this project has been terrible from the very beginning.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on June 06, 2011, 11:22:59 PM
Their communication on this project has been terrible from the very beginning.
Is there anyone that could be contacted, other than the Twitter guy? Since we know who's involved, are there a few emails that could be sent to a few people? Something like, "Hi, how is the project going?" Or, "Could you please give us a status update?"

I'm still super excited about this whole thing and I cannot wait to see Berserk in animated form once again.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on June 07, 2011, 12:38:02 AM
Is there anyone that could be contacted, other than the Twitter guy? Since we know who's involved, are there a few emails that could be sent to a few people? Something like, "Hi, how is the project going?" Or, "Could you please give us a status update?"

I'm still super excited about this whole thing and I cannot wait to see Berserk in animated form once again.
As the success of our letter to Miura proved, there's certainly no harm in reaching out. However, I have a feeling the higher ups in charge of the project set up that Twitter guy to respond to just such requests. Too bad he's under performing at his job (to say the least).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on June 07, 2011, 04:54:00 AM
Perhaps we could just send them a simple and friendly e-mail about our support for the project and the team behind it. Maybe just tell them we are still very concerned about the recent issues in Japan and that we are prepared to wait longer than expected for the first movie to come out. After all, I hope they won't compromise anything in order to honor the deadlines, if any. Who knows, they might reply with some kind of interesting update. But honestly, I don't mind waiting at all. Each day that we wait is for them a day of hard work on the most promising and ambitious anime project that I know of.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on June 07, 2011, 05:04:03 AM
I kind of just want to tell him "get off your ass and start tweeting for every little damn detail!"  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on June 07, 2011, 12:16:42 PM
I kind of just want to tell him "get off your ass and start tweeting for every little damn detail!"  :puck:

Then why don't you? He's on Twitter, go ahead and send him a message (that goes for all of you). He's repeatedly invited people to do so. Even if he doesn't reply, he might still read it. Even if it's in English. Now people, keep in mind this guy is most likely a low level exec (if not an intern) that only does what he's told to, and he's probably not told much. But if he reports to his hierarchy that people are getting agitated, they may be more likely to give news.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on June 07, 2011, 08:17:24 PM
I keep checking this thread everyday for news, like a cursed one. 
I fully approve the idea that SK team send an email to people who are working on Berserk movie project
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on June 07, 2011, 08:58:53 PM
I tweeted the Berserk project Twitter guy this morning. I'll let everyone know what he says if I hear back from him.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: berserk36 on June 09, 2011, 03:44:05 AM
my god did anyone get a PM (Email/Tweet) back I think we all and I mean ALL OF US should send at least one email and tweet
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on June 09, 2011, 03:45:57 AM
my god did anyone get a PM (Email/Tweet) back I think we all and I mean ALL OF US should send at least one email and tweet
Guy with 4 posts leading a charge!  :ganishka:

Go for it man. And please, post your results!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on June 09, 2011, 04:08:20 PM
Still no word back. :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on June 10, 2011, 02:02:26 AM
An imaginary scenario where I actually get an answer for once:

ME: "Berserk Projectはどこにありますか?"

HIM: "Koko."

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Saephon on June 12, 2011, 07:21:29 PM
An imaginary scenario where I actually get an answer for once:

ME: "Berserk Projectはどこにありますか?"

HIM: "Koko."

Ah, my 1+ year of Japanese has paid off at last!
And I wish you luck, Ambassador berserk36. Have you ever wondered what happened to the first 35?  :femto:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Edi on June 14, 2011, 10:29:37 AM
Some new tweets finally:
 
http://twitter.com/berserk_project

Quote
またまた、沈黙をしていてすいません!! さぼってるわけではありません!! 言えない事も多くて申し訳ないです。7月に入りましたら、たくさんつぶやきます!! 少しだけお待ちを!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on June 14, 2011, 11:51:58 AM
See? I told you guys you just had to ask. :slan: The guy says he's sorry he's been silent, but that he can't say much. Then he says that there'll be news in July. So be patient.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on June 14, 2011, 02:48:47 PM
See? I told you guys you just had to ask. :slan: The guy says he's sorry he's been silent, but that he can't say much. Then he says that there'll be news in July. So be patient.
News that it will be opening in theaters later that month?  :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on June 14, 2011, 04:43:24 PM
News that it will be opening in theaters later that month?  :carcus:

Oh no you didn't.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on June 16, 2011, 04:32:00 AM
Then he says that there'll be news in July. So be patient.

YAY!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on June 16, 2011, 07:04:39 AM
Oh no you didn't.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hcHFbJZMInc/Tda2QMzIgfI/AAAAAAAAAFA/LPln9VHqcOE/s1600/Black%2BGirl.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Turkitage on June 16, 2011, 01:30:44 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hcHFbJZMInc/Tda2QMzIgfI/AAAAAAAAAFA/LPln9VHqcOE/s1600/Black%2BGirl.jpg)

Thanks Truder, I felt there was something missing in that last comment. Thanks for always keepin it real.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on June 21, 2011, 12:01:15 PM
Since I just know some of you won't bother checking the current episode thread...

Issue #14 of YA, which will come out on July 8th, will feature a Berserk appendix ("Clear File") as well as information regarding the forthcoming movie.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on June 21, 2011, 02:44:24 PM
I pray that the info they give us is : "The movie will cover The Black Swordsman arc."

 :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: MrSmit on June 21, 2011, 03:52:19 PM
Yeah, I would be quite happy with a movie for every three volumes.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on June 22, 2011, 12:48:03 AM
Yeah, I would be quite happy with a movie for every three volumes.

That would mean at least 15 full length movies, or even more OAVs. Sadly, this is highly improbable.

But if I don't see an animated Snail Count in the upcoming one, my twisted french Canadian face will re-align, I will scream in pain and cry blood tears.  :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: MrSmit on June 22, 2011, 04:36:09 PM
I would much rather have an incomplete faithful adaption than a complete abridged adaption  :puck:.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on June 23, 2011, 05:39:28 AM
I would much rather have an incomplete faithful adaption than a complete abridged adaption  :puck:.
Word is born.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on June 23, 2011, 02:20:19 PM
I would much rather have an incomplete faithful adaption than a complete abridged adaption  :puck:.

I'd prefer a complete, faithful adaptation, myself. :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on June 23, 2011, 02:51:17 PM
I'm still holding out hope for an incomplete and unfaithful adaptation. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on June 23, 2011, 07:52:33 PM
I'm still holding out hope for an incomplete and unfaithful adaptation. :griffnotevil:

Odds are you'll probably get your wish. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on June 24, 2011, 04:08:27 AM
4 hours ago, Twitter Man posted what we already know:

(Google Translated):
"Published in Young Animal Berserk is released today. Then, on sale July 08, Young Animal, a large movie information published Berserk! ! Thank you! !"

I really can't wait for the large movie information.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on June 24, 2011, 04:40:25 AM
That is exactly 14 days from now.  PLLLLEASE SOMETHING JUICY!  AND A TRAILER PLLEEEEEEASE.  Kthxbye.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on June 24, 2011, 09:21:40 AM
so 14 days of suffering from now  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rus on June 24, 2011, 10:19:49 AM
My guess is that they are going to tell us what part of the story is going to be in the movie. Or perhaps a date, well we'll see :D

I'm still holding out hope for an incomplete and unfaithful adaptation. :griffnotevil:

Judging from the trailers we got so far you may be right !
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Dar Klink on July 05, 2011, 07:14:26 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2eZyJ.jpg)
January 2012! Studio 4c! That's what I can get outta this! :guts:

Edit: Oh a bit more, The director is Toshiyuki Kubooka who worked on the Lunar game series, Gotham Knight animation by Studio 4c, Nadia, Gunbuster, and some others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiyuki_Kubooka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiyuki_Kubooka)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 05, 2011, 07:44:00 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2eZyJ.jpg)
January 2012! Studio 4c! That's what I can get outta this! :guts:

Thanks for the news, Dar Link! As I alluded to in the episode thread (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12704.msg199326#msg199326), I don't like how they've typically stylized Griffith's coat to ridiculous anime proportions. It looks like what my Miyamoto Griffith (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/griffsashi8.jpg) avatar would wear. Bitch bitch bitch.

Edit: Oh a bit more, The director is Toshiyuki Kubooka who worked on the Lunar game series

All is forgiven... *sniff* Luna. :judo:

Maybe that screenshot above is actually Ghaleon making a cameo, or else Griffith is going to look like this when he becomes...

(http://www.angelfire.com/anime5/mnnwclassics/images/magicemperorghaleon.jpg)

"MAGIC EMPEROR GRIFFITH!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anp4lD6E5NU)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 05, 2011, 08:03:10 AM
As I alluded to in the episode thread, I don't like how they've typically stylized Griffith's coat to ridiculous anime proportions.

Can't say I approve either. I hope that's not an example of their purported faithfulness to the manga...
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on July 05, 2011, 08:27:57 AM
(http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/Truder7/berserk_v08_190.jpg)
At first I didn't notice the difference.. but i looked it up and their is a pretty big difference. no shoulder pad thingys either. I hope the robe doesn't cover his sexy boots!

Still, I wont nitpick the movie into nothingness. studio 4c could give Guts mutton chops, I just don't give a fudge!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 05, 2011, 08:49:07 AM
Still, I wont nitpick the movie into nothingness. studio 4c could give Guts mutton chops, I just don't give a fudge!

The problem is that when you add all the discrepancies together the general picture can start stinking fast, and I'd prefer if it didn't. Just getting animated material for the sake of it doesn't interest me. I want quality, personally, and Guts with mutton chops wouldn't cut it.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on July 05, 2011, 02:22:32 PM
Alright! January 2012 isn't that soon but it's better than next Spring! Also the director worked on Giant Robo which was awesome. And it looks like they're covering The Golden Age. I am definitely looking forward to this.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 05, 2011, 04:30:39 PM
I guess this must be big news, slated for July 8th?  I hope we get more information than just this.  And a trailer???  PLEEEASE.

Alright! January 2012 isn't that soon but it's better than next Spring! Also the director worked on Giant Robo which was awesome. And it looks like they're covering The Golden Age. I am definitely looking forward to this.

Yes, I've waited 10 years for a new Berserk anime, I suppose I can wait another 6 months!  However, if they are covering the Golden Age, then what does that mean in terms of the overall timeline?  If they are going to be faithful to the manga, then this can't be right...  Also, if this scene is in the upcoming movie, that means they crammed a whole shit ton in one movie.  It took the original anime 19 episodes to get to this point of the story.  And of course, the anime skipped over a ton of story.  What I was led to believe (or maybe just what I'm hoping), is that this new anime will take it's time and animate the story at a slow and accurate pace.  In other words, one arc shouldn't be animated down into just a 2 hour movie.

We need more info still!  I hope there's more than just this!

PS, here's a translation of the scan, found from the internet.  Don't blame me if it's wrong, just posting =P

Quote
A powerful staff gathers, with a promising the biggest of quality!

The people in charge of the Movie of Berserk is a recognized staff, the best in the world of anime. Beyond the fans expectations, the staff in working in literally sharping the life out of it!

Director: Toshiyuki Kubooka

Animator, Director. Batman: Gotham Knight (Director of 5 episodes), Genius Party Shangai Great Dragon (art content / director), Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo (art content / director) among others many other different works.

Message from Toshiyuki Kubooka

[We are giving everything we got], [The direction the original concept demands is pressing us against the wall], [We are making a real middle ages setting]...We are doing our best to this objective. The staff is really exited, we can make something great. We ask you yo be patient.

Animation work Studio 4c

A production with the best animation techniques. The studio received in 2007 an outstanding animation award from the japanese academy for Tekkonkinkreet. Other great works include Detroit Metal City among others.

Distrubution: Warner Brothers Movies
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 05, 2011, 04:41:56 PM
However, if they are covering the Golden Age, then what does that mean in terms of the overall timeline?  If they are going to be faithful to the manga, then this can't be right...  Also, if this scene is in the upcoming movie, that means they crammed a whole shit ton in one movie.  It took the original anime 19 episodes to get to this point of the story.  And of course, the anime skipped over a ton of story.  What I was led to believe (or maybe just what I'm hoping), is that this new anime will take it's time and animate the story at a slow and accurate pace.  In other words, one arc shouldn't be animated down into just a 2 hour movie.

You hit the nail on the head. I'd say more but the point's been made again and again, so all that's left to do is to be patient and hope for the best.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 05, 2011, 05:08:25 PM
You hit the nail on the head. I'd say more but the point's been made again and again, so all that's left to do is to be patient and hope for the best.

...but expect the worst. :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Edi on July 05, 2011, 05:38:55 PM
Berserk Movie official website:
http://www.berserkfilm.com/
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3272/figma.jpg)
Start: 15 July
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on July 05, 2011, 06:01:13 PM
It's nice to see the news is coming out of the woodwork again (as are some of the irregular members, such as me). Does that website for the Wonder Festival suggest anything?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 05, 2011, 06:35:11 PM
Berserk Movie official website:
http://www.berserkfilm.com/
Start: 15 July

THANK YOU FOR THAT EDI!  July 15!  I am crossing my fingers for a trailer, LOL.  Man oh man, I swear if I keep saying the word trailer eventually my prayers will be answered, I'm serious!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on July 05, 2011, 07:08:29 PM
Looks like the Berserk film website isn't live yet. Hopefully by the 15th it will be along with a trailer!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: supa_pokute on July 05, 2011, 07:37:40 PM
I've been very excited after hearing the news about the new Berserk anime, with what the teasers and few pics with seen. The only thing I feel a little disappointed with is that it seems judging from what they have shown us, the black swordsman episodes seems to be out in favor of starting at the golden age ones. I'm probably wrong, (I hope I am) because I really want to see the fight with the count, but like others have said it may be a possibility if they do try to cram the first dozen volumes into a film. I don't want to jump the gun and say it won't be in the beginning, but what do you guys think? Maybe they feel the film doesn't need the first three books included? :(
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on July 05, 2011, 07:57:33 PM
They might be doing with Berserk what they did with Fullmetal Alchemist: condensing what we've already seen into as brief a period as possible in order to get to the "new stuff" faster. I hope that isn't the case.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 05, 2011, 08:32:29 PM
They might be doing with Berserk what they did with Fullmetal Alchemist: condensing what we've already seen into as brief a period as possible in order to get to the "new stuff" faster. I hope that isn't the case.

Yeah let's hope it isn't indeed, given that we haven't seen a third of the material they'd be "condensing", and that they expressly said they'd be faithful to the manga.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: MrSmit on July 05, 2011, 09:31:39 PM
I hope the robe doesn't cover his sexy boots!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBk9cUNZ7Bg @ 0:10

You can see the boots.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: thedigitalsin on July 05, 2011, 10:02:27 PM
It's nice to see the news is coming out of the woodwork again (as are some of the irregular members, such as me). Does that website for the Wonder Festival suggest anything?

Max Factory will be showing off their prototype for the Guts figma action figure at WonFes (something I'm absolutely ecstatic about).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on July 05, 2011, 11:30:55 PM
Studio 4C's website isn't showing anything on the project yet. All I saw that might be related is that they are hiring some CGI and Flash artists until July 8th.
Let's indeed hope for a trailer July 15th on the movie's website.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 06, 2011, 12:33:29 AM
they are hiring some CGI and Flash artists until
If this movie was animated in Flash suddenly, I'd throw a fit.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on July 06, 2011, 12:54:42 AM
If this movie was animated in Flash suddenly, I'd throw a fit.

What about macaroni art? The eclipse would look great with marinara sauce   :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 06, 2011, 02:33:51 AM
What about macaroni art? The eclipse would look great with marinara sauce   :void:
hmmm. . .
(http://www.erikthejuiceman.com/eclipsemac.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Edi on July 06, 2011, 07:33:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Gg8FMl.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 06, 2011, 07:52:07 AM
Holy jeez that looks pretty nice. Griffith's sleeves don't look as silly in that shot.

Though, I am worried about the timeline. How the hell long is this movie gonna be? Let's suppose they're gonna be covering this manga chronologically (which would suck)... As mentioned before, either this is gonna be one long ass movie or LOTS is gonna get cut out. I'm scaarredd.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-07-05/berserk-film-slated-for-next-january
Apparently, some theatres are gonna be showing a teaser trailer. I'm sure it'll be featured on the berserkfilm.com site once it launches.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 06, 2011, 08:35:38 AM
Edi!  Wow, thanks again for the picture scoops!  That first shot looks GORGEOUS.  Man oh man.  July 15th... personally, that's almost the perfect day for me to look forward to the trailer (I do agree that if they are showing it in select theaters, it has to be on the website on the 15th too).  Cuz yeah, I'm working on a big project due July 15th, so this will be my reward.  Let's hope it's a Black Swordsman esque reward, shall we? =)
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: voodoo_sh on July 06, 2011, 12:29:15 PM
That last one pic looks pretty nice. Imagine how it would look in 1080 HD ?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 06, 2011, 05:31:27 PM
Holy jeez that looks pretty nice. Griffith's sleeves don't look as silly in that shot.

Too bad Guts' outfit is still completely wrong. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on July 06, 2011, 05:41:58 PM
Too bad Guts' outfit is still completely wrong. :griffnotevil:

No kidding. I was hoping that what we saw in the trailers was entirely test footage. :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on July 06, 2011, 06:43:45 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but they (Griffith and Guts) look a little older than what I recall from / during that arc. Also, that doesn't look like the same sword he used during his confrontation with Griffith as per the manga.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 06, 2011, 06:57:26 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but they (Griffith and Guts) look a little older than what I recall from / during that arc.

I guess they do, but that's a matter of art style. That's not what bothers me here, as the character design looks pretty good compared to the 1997 TV series or even to previous promotional material.

Also, that doesn't look like the same sword he used during his confrontation with Griffith as per the manga.

Yeah, it's wrong, like his outfit (and the scenery).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 06, 2011, 07:47:05 PM
I guess they do, but that's a matter of art style. That's not what bothers me here, as the character design looks pretty good compared to the 1997 TV series or even to previous promotional material.

This isn't directed just at Aaz, and not meant to start a heated debate, but I'm genuinely curious... to all of you who are pointing out all the discrepancies in the clothing and the scenery: how much of this is a dealbreaker for you?

Many people on these boards know I'm a decently hardcore Berserk purist.  Whenever I get my Berserk kits painted, I generally like to make it as accurate and Miura-approving as possible.  Aaz knows this very well, as I consult him practically every time. =)  Thanks Aazealh!  But there are some things that I'm okay with, and some things that I'm not.

In my eyes, yes, Griffith's coat is a bit more baggy than it is compared to the manga.  It's missing some details in the cuffs and what not.  Why was this done?  Perhaps for animation purposes?  Maybe they wanted something looser to exaggerate the movements when they fight?  Who knows.  Is it a dealbreaker for me?  Not at all.

The scenery, it looked accurate to me from what I remembered when reading the manga, but I did a side by side comparison right now to double check.  Yes, the tree is off to the side, instead of in the middle where it was in the manga.  And yes, a few other discrepancies, but overall, the environment and mood are portrayed beautifully as far as I can tell.  I don't think it's possible (nor has it ever been done), where an anime has been able to match frame by frame, detail by detail, every aspect of a corresponding manga.  A manga drawing will almost always have more detail than its anime counterpart.  And my guess for moving the tree, probably to better frame the fight, and so it wouldn't block the vast landscape that they have in the background.

For me, what matters the most is the story and the portrayal of the characters.  That is what I want to be absolutely 100% faithful.  An anime that stays true to how the story unfolds and the depth and development of each character.  Everything else is just secondary.  I don't even expect every character in this anime to look exactly like they do in the manga.  I mean, after all, the facial structure of each character has fluctuated throughout the volumes anyways.  And like Aaz said up above, the character design looks pretty good so far.  So if this is the kind of quality we can expect from here on out, then I'm satisfied entirely.

Would love to hear the thoughts of my fellow Berserk fans!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2011, 07:51:49 PM
Quote
to all of you who are pointing out all the discrepancies in the clothing and the scenery: how much of this is a dealbreaker for you?
The inconsistencies themselves aren't a big deal to me. But they could just be the tip of the iceberg for things to come, and I think that's the fear.

We've been shown so little of this project. The fact that we're already seeing several small inconsistencies doesn't bode well for this movie being faithful to the original work. Properly adapting a series into a different format is such a delicate process; moreso in this case because of the disaster that was the Berserk anime.  Faithfulness to the manga is my #1 priority for this movie project.

Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Rhombaad on July 06, 2011, 08:02:53 PM
I don't know if it's a dealbreaker yet, but I don't like what I'm seeing so far. The baggier clothes might not be a giant inconsistency, but it's an inconsistency nonetheless. Something like that doesn't bother me nearly as much as Guts in a completely different set of armor with a completely different sword. That's just careless on the part of the anime team. As you said, the moving of the tree in the background might have been done for framing purposes, but to have the character dressed in something completely different altogether...that's just unacceptable.

We haven't received any concrete information so far, but if they're going to condense the Golden Age arc into a 90 min. - 2 hour movie, count me out. That doesn't mean they won't have quality additions to the anime in the future, but I just don't know if I could stomach a complete butchery of Miura's material. And a butchery that would be.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 06, 2011, 08:03:14 PM
These things aren't dealbreakers to me unto themselves, but they're red flags that make me question how they're going to handle the more important complexities of such an adaptation if they can't even get the basic superficialities right. I don't like what I've seen, from the focus on the Golden Age (been there, done that) to the fact that so far it actually looks less accurate than the first anime. Of course, a successful adaption isn't just about copying the original exactly, you have to make it work in a different medium, and some of the changes and compromises in the original anime were reasonable and even clever, but those changes were completely undermined by some other egregiously inexplicable  decisions. I'm hoping things will be different this time, but there's already things indicating it won't be, and I don't trust what they're saying about supposedly adapting "everything," or their approach yet (this could easily change with time, even if they get off on the wrong foot). This is all compounded by the urgency that this is likely the last shot at getting this right. So, while the images are pretty, they're not what I wanted to see. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised by the final result, despite my apparent lack of enthusiasm I haven't lost sight of how big a deal this is and how much potential it still holds, for which I'm grateful. I'm sure I'll at least appreciate it in the same way I do the original anime (minus the nostalgia factor) even if it isn't ideal. Otherwise, I just hope it's a huge success and Miura gets his due.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 06, 2011, 09:55:38 PM
I think the three answers you got so far really hit the nail on the head Derek, but because you're asking me directly I'll pile on top of the others.

I'm genuinely curious... to all of you who are pointing out all the discrepancies in the clothing and the scenery: how much of this is a dealbreaker for you?

A dealbreaker in what sense? There's no doubt I'll be buying the Blu-ray edition (and a Blu-ray player to play it on) as soon as it's available, and I'll go see the movie(s) in the theater if it ever plays in my country. But am I going to pretend I don't see all the mistakes? No, I'm not. I see them and I don't like it.

Many people on these boards know I'm a decently hardcore Berserk purist.  Whenever I get my Berserk kits painted, I generally like to make it as accurate and Miura-approving as possible.  Aaz knows this very well, as I consult him practically every time. =)  Thanks Aazealh!  But there are some things that I'm okay with, and some things that I'm not.

Careful with the bragging, lest I put you to the test. :carcus: (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=11828.0)

In my eyes, yes, Griffith's coat is a bit more baggy than it is compared to the manga.  It's missing some details in the cuffs and what not.  Why was this done?  Perhaps for animation purposes?  Maybe they wanted something looser to exaggerate the movements when they fight?  Who knows.  Is it a dealbreaker for me?  Not at all.

The scenery, it looked accurate to me from what I remembered when reading the manga, but I did a side by side comparison right now to double check.  Yes, the tree is off to the side, instead of in the middle where it was in the manga.  And yes, a few other discrepancies, but overall, the environment and mood are portrayed beautifully as far as I can tell. [...] And my guess for moving the tree, probably to better frame the fight, and so it wouldn't block the vast landscape that they have in the background.

And the onlookers are nowhere to be seen in the shots we've been shown so far, and so on. Rinse/repeat for every other excerpt (re-read the thread for my old comments if you need to). As for the scenery, I like the original landscape better (that's right, it's different), and apart from that I think the tree fit in there nicely anyway (AND it plays a key role, don't forget). But whatever, that isn't the point. The point is that whoever the guys behind the animation are, I feel it's not their place to change stuff. Of course given that the medium is different it can't be a carbon-copy of the manga, that's so obvious it's not worth mentioning. But that's not what we're talking about here. Like the others said before me, all the small errors are almost certainly revelatory of bigger ones. And they're not even that small in the first place. I'm sorry to say it because that's not what I hope for, but it's hard to deny it.

You say the mood and environment are portrayed beautifully as far as you can tell, but what have we seen so far? Very, very little. Don't lose sight of that. So yeah, we're nitpicking while watching videos frame by frame, but when you have 5 clips containing 5 seconds of footage each there's hardly anything else to do. Which is why it's so worrying that so many discrepancies have been noticed. Usually you use your best material when promoting a show. What does that say about the rest? Like Walter said, what we've seen so far does not bode particularly well.

For me, what matters the most is the story and the portrayal of the characters.  That is what I want to be absolutely 100% faithful.  An anime that stays true to how the story unfolds and the depth and development of each character.  Everything else is just secondary.  I don't even expect every character in this anime to look exactly like they do in the manga.

Sure, faithfulness to the story and the portrayal of the characters is what's most important. I think we all agree on that. What you don't realize though is that the little clues we've picked up already show that this movie isn't faithful to the story or the depiction of the characters. When Guts wears his old armor and wields his old sword during his duel with Griffith, the problem isn't him not looking exactly like he did in the manga. It's him not leaving his breastplate and broken sword behind for Casca to find and hold to her chest (and the sword not being broken during his fight against Boscone?). Do you see what I mean? Do you see how far it can go, and how quickly it does? Don't fall for the fallacy that consists in exaggerating people's arguments in order to make them look unreasonable. We're not just complaining that Griffith's coat is too loose here. And even if we were, it'd still be a valid complaint. By the same token, Zodd's horns not having the right shape (not at all) isn't something I'm willing to overlook. It's shoddy work.

Of course we could try and rationalize as much of it as we can: maybe Guts left the sword/breastplate behind anyway and they just drew him with the exact same equipment because they felt it was fitting or something, right? But in the end it'll be lame and inconsistent any way you cut it. The details matter a lot more than people tend to think, and if you keep fucking them up, then you'll fuck up big time sooner or later. Griff summed it up perfectly when he said that "they're red flags that make me question how they're going to handle the more important complexities of such an adaptation if they can't even get the basic superficialities right."

And then, after all that, there remains the problem of the movie's length compared to the footage shown. You said it so yourself just yesterday. Does it look to you like it'll be 100% faithful to the manga, story-wise? Because at the moment that's not what it looks like to me. Now don't be mistaken, I'm hoping for the best like I've been saying, and I don't want to judge this project before we see more of it. I'm just being wary, and not without reason.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Slime_Beherit on July 06, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
I myself am hoping that this footage is just leftovers from the commercials. Granted that's assuming that the footage for the commercial was just put together from very early work, maybe from a proof of concept animation to get the films green lit.

Griffith's calmness as he looks at Guts bothers me, he looks like he's not feeling anything. They also both look older than they should, Guts' face look particularly large :/
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Death May Die on July 06, 2011, 10:55:41 PM
           I think we all can agree that this is at least better animation quality than the original anime. Which I think that already broadens its audience for sheer visual appeal. Also most anything is a improvement animation wise. I too, would have to say the story intact is probably the most important thing to me. Although, I don't think the anime is going to be faithful 100%. I'm not even going to expect that from this anime. What I want is a new anime for the anime fans. To get Berserk out there again in a fresh sense. If the anime is popular, I hope that it will direct fans to the manga source content. If the anime wins, to me, the manga wins. That is how I see it. With good animation, a decent adaption of what the manga presents, I think Berserk would really take off. I feel that can be done easily enough. I don't think anime was as abundant in 1999 as it is now. I see 2012 as a new era all together. Its like a Berserk rebirth. I really believe its worth a shot. I can't ask for a 100% adaption, that is not practical to me.

            I'm just happy we are getting another Berserk anime. I mean wrap your heads around that! Not too long ago it was as if it would never happen! Its been over a decade! This shit is finally happening! :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 07, 2011, 12:14:46 AM
I'm just happy we are getting another Berserk anime. I mean wrap your heads around that! Not too long ago it was as if it would never happen! Its been over a decade! This shit is finally happening! :ubik:
Dude, I know what you mean. I'm seriously excited.

When I first became a Berserk fan, all I could think of is, "MAN I WISH THEY WOULD ANIMATE MORE." It took me a good while before I stopped giving a shit whether there'd be more anime or not. It was a combination of me realizing "Man, they're probably never gonna make more," and re-watching the original anime after reading through the manga series a few times. The manga is, without a doubt, the superior Berserk. The original Berserk. The reason I got Guts tattooed on me.

Things like the anime, the Dreamcast footage, and the PS2 footage were something extra and something cool for me. Every now and then I'll watch Guts VS Grunbeld from the PS2 game just to see all the stuff I love move around, with the voice performances, the sound effects, the music. The whole animated PS2 sequence where Guts becomes the berserker and just ROOOOOARRRRRSSS is incredibly cool. That weird low-pitched mechanical howl. Little things like that are great.

And, honestly, let's play worst-case scenario: Let's say the new anime skips TONS of shit, gets costumes wrong, doesn't have Hirasawa music, and the faces / expressions are slightly off. I'm still gonna watch the hell out of that thing, nonstop. Over and over. And enjoy it, too.

But, needless to say, I'd much prefer a faithful-as-can-be adaptation. And I'm fretting like crazy. So I guess I'm emotionally messed up about this whole thing!

Hearing that a new anime is coming out reawakened all these old feelings. I really still can't believe this is happening.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Truder on July 07, 2011, 03:47:04 AM
I really still can't believe this is happening.
I'm still half expecting this to be an extended April fools joke! :troll:


Sure, faithfulness to the story and the portrayal of the characters is what's most important. I think we all agree on that. What you don't realize though is that the little clues we've picked up already show that this movie isn't faithful to the story or the depiction of the characters. When Guts wears his old armor and wields his old sword during his duel with Griffith, the problem isn't him not looking exactly like he did in the manga. It's him not leaving his breastplate and broken sword behind for Casca to find and hold to her chest (and the sword not being broken during his fight against Boscone?). Do you see what I mean? Do you see how far it can go, and how quickly it does? Don't fall for the fallacy that consists in exaggerating people's arguments in order to make them look unreasonable. We're not just complaining that Griffith's coat is too loose here. And even if we were, it'd still be a valid complaint. By the same token, Zodd's horns not having the right shape (not at all) isn't something I'm willing to overlook. It's shoddy work.

Of course we could try and rationalize as much of it as we can: maybe Guts left the sword/breastplate behind anyway and they just drew him with the exact same equipment because they felt it was fitting or something, right? But in the end it'll be lame and inconsistent any way you cut it.
I haven't thought of it that way! your knowledge scares me. :magni:
I guess you are right, small inconsistencies could indeed change the story a bit, which goes against their "faithful to the manga" talk.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on July 07, 2011, 04:07:00 AM
And, honestly, let's play worst-case scenario: Let's say the new anime skips TONS of shit, gets costumes wrong, doesn't have Hirasawa music, and the faces / expressions are slightly off. I'm still gonna watch the hell out of that thing, nonstop. Over and over. And enjoy it, too.

I totally feel the same. Here's my opinion, not directly directed to Gobolatula (by the way, that picture was some badass noodle madness  :isidro:), but to everyone here (sorry for the simple English, French is my main language).

If we look at things from a global perspective, this new anime project is a very positive thing for Berserk, Miura, all the fans and upcoming ones. This project will surely draw legions of new Berserk fans, and please a lot of the current ones. The fact that its happening will make the series even bigger, and will help provide the attention it deserves. Many more people will discover the manga after this movie (and the future ones). More people buying and loving the manga is the best thing that could happen to Miura, Berserk and the fan base. The manga will always be the best, no matter what quality the other mediums provide. People will appreciate it even more because of that.

The reason this anime project exists in the first place is because the manga is selling well around the world. The reason we might have other different projects in the future is because it will sell even more then. Eventually, Berserk will probably get great worldwide recognition because of adaptations like animes, games, statues, real actor movies and what not. As long as most of them are quality products and not biased, "fast-food-like" crap. Personally, I loved the first anime because I looked at it with a different eye, from a different perspective. According to me, its a masterpiece (even if I read the manga first and saw how different it was). It is also the reason why many people I know now read and love the manga.

Now don't take me wrong here. I too wish they wouldn't omit a single detail in the anime. But we'll never see that happen. I'm pretty much positive that what we will see instead is several high quality movies/OAVs to love and abuse for years to come. Even if they turn out to be inaccurate and inferior to the original material.

I'm looking forward to this.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 07, 2011, 04:42:39 AM
I myself am hoping that this footage is just leftovers from the commercials. Granted that's assuming that the footage for the commercial was just put together from very early work, maybe from a proof of concept animation to get the films green lit.

That's what many people are hoping for, but at some point they can't be using test footage anymore, you know? I guess we'll know for sure when the teaser is revealed, but I wouldn't expect a miracle if I were you.

Which I think that already broadens its audience for sheer visual appeal.

Not being currently employed by Hakusensha's marketing department, broadening the audience isn't very high on my list of priorities.

I don't think anime was as abundant in 1999 as it is now. I see 2012 as a new era all together.

It certainly was in Japan, which is by far the movie's main target. In fact, at this point it's its only target.

I'm just happy we are getting another Berserk anime. I mean wrap your heads around that! Not too long ago it was as if it would never happen! Its been over a decade! This shit is finally happening!

What wasn't going to happen was a second season of the TV series. You can only blame yourself if you didn't understand that 10 years ago. But Berserk being an established manga, it was never out of the question that a new animation project would eventually happen.

I guess you are right, small inconsistencies could indeed change the story a bit, which goes against their "faithful to the manga" talk.

Yeah, and again, I wouldn't call it a small inconsistency to give the main character wrong the clothes/sword. It's hardly excusable really... Not to mention that the old TV series didn't make that mistake back in the day. I really hope those errors are isolated (or even better, have been corrected), because if you add enough of these together it'll eventually be enough to spoil your enjoyment.

If we look at things from a global perspective, this new anime project is a very positive thing for Berserk, Miura, all the fans and upcoming ones. This project will surely draw legions of new Berserk fans, and please a lot of the current ones. The fact that its happening will make the series even bigger, and will help provide the attention it deserves. Many more people will discover the manga after this movie (and the future ones). More people buying and loving the manga is the best thing that could happen to Miura, Berserk and the fan base. The manga will always be the best, no matter what quality the other mediums provide. People will appreciate it even more because of that.

You and Death May Die make me smile. Yeah, of course this project is a great thing for Berserk as a series. You don't have to state the obvious. But that has nothing to do with the fact we as fans want the upcoming animated material to be as flawless as possible, or that we're unhappy with the glaring errors that have been revealed so far. It's plain irrelevant to the discussion.

Eventually, Berserk will probably get great worldwide recognition because of adaptations like animes, games, statues, real actor movies and what not. As long as most of them are quality products and not biased, "fast-food-like" crap. Personally, I loved the first anime because I looked at it with a different eye, from a different perspective. According to me, its a masterpiece (even if I read the manga first and saw how different it was).

Berserk is already recognized as being awesome by connoisseurs around the world. Has been for years. It doesn't need a live action movie for that (can't believe you're serious). And there's a level of mainstream-ness it'll never attain regardless of what derivatives they put out precisely because of its quality. It doesn't pander to certain types of audiences, and that means there's a line it can't go past.

What makes me laugh though is your assessment that the products shouldn't be "crap", followed by proclaiming that you think the TV series is a masterpiece. I guess you're entitled to your lack of standards, but please don't try to tell other people they should follow that example. A quality product is what we all want. We just have different definitions of the word "quality".

Now don't take me wrong here. I too wish they wouldn't omit a single detail in the anime. But we'll never see that happen.

Great attitude right there. Like that justifies anything and everything. "Oh they're never going to get it perfectly right, so it doesn't matter if everything is blatantly wrong! I'm so happy the pictures are moving that I don't mind anything!!"

I was talking with Griff earlier and he perfectly summed it up: "What bothers me is when people are more excited about the "anime" part than the "Berserk" part of the Berserk anime. Yeah, like if you just appreciate anime and production values, watch the best quality anime out there. Doesn't mean I can't complain the Berserk aspect of this one might be lacking."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: CCS on July 07, 2011, 02:28:24 PM
Guts feet look kinda tiny in that shot. That is my only complaint.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on July 07, 2011, 03:13:26 PM
Oh! berserkfilm.com is now unlocked, without any real content until july 15th.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Edi on July 07, 2011, 04:03:34 PM
Studio 4C's website isn't showing anything on the project yet.
http://studio4c.jugem.jp/?eid=152 ^^
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on July 07, 2011, 04:16:19 PM
Quote
2011.07.08 Friday
STUDIO4℃、劇場アニメーション「ベルセルク」鋭意制作中!!!!!
ついに情報解禁!

昨年末のテレビCM映像でも話題になりました「ベルセルク」、
その時にはまだSTUDIO4℃からはお知らせすることができずに歯がゆい状況でしたが、
あれから半年…この場でも、ようやく、本当にようやくお伝えすることができます。

現場では来年1月の劇場公開に向けて、今まさに現在進行形で制作しています。
窪岡俊之氏を監督に迎え、担当スタッフは一丸となって、
昼夜ひたすら前へ前へと進み続けております。
消費した栄養ドリンクは数知れず、幾度と無く会社で明かした朝、
これらの数字もきっと更新し続けるのでしょう。
完成そして映画の公開というゴールに向けて止まることなく突き進んでいきます。

劇場アニメーション「ベルセルク」公開まであと6ヶ月、
期待してお待ちください。


劇場版「ベルセルク」公式サイト ※7月15日(金)オープン
http://www.berserkfilm.com

What does it say?!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 07, 2011, 04:20:16 PM
What does it say?!

Quote from: google translate
2011.07.08 Friday
STUDIO4 ℃, Animated Movie "Berserk" in intensive production !!!!!
Travel ban at last!

TV footage also now talking about the CM last year, "Berserk"
At that time the situation was still STUDIO4 ℃ can not be impatient to know,
... In this case six months from that time, finally, finally you can really tell.

In the field toward the theatrical release next month, has been produced in an ongoing right now.
Toshiyuki Oka Wa pick a coach, staff will come together,
Before we go on to continue to earnestly night and day before.
Energy drink was consumed countless, countless times in the company revealed the morning,
You probably also continue to update these numbers.
We will remain in full fling toward the goal without the release of the film, and complete.

Animated Movie "Berserk" six months to go before public
Please wait and hope.


Movie "Berserk" ※ 7 Official Site 15 (Fri) Open
http://www.berserkfilm.com

....

Also something I noticed on the site. Warner Brothers is involved?
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Sammoniac on July 07, 2011, 04:33:22 PM
Also something I noticed on the site. Warner Brothers is involved?

I also noticed. That probably means that the movie will be playing in many, many theatres  :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 07, 2011, 04:48:19 PM
Looks like they have a distributor. Raises my hopes for the potential of theatrical showings here: now that's exciting! Though, it could be good or bad depending on how Warner Brothers values the property; better to have a smaller company that treats it like royalty than a big one that gives it third rate treatment. Still, major studio name recognition attached to Berserk, neat. :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 07, 2011, 05:09:09 PM
Oh! berserkfilm.com is now unlocked, without any real content until july 15th.

Looks like there is a new twitter account to follow, by clicking on the link in the center of the website, https://twitter.com/#!/Clara_de_Porras

Interesting, not sure why they would open 2 separate Berserk twitters.

As for Studio4C's message, I'm wondering if anyone can give a more accurate translation other than google?  I get the general idea of what they are saying, but am wondering if there is anymore said in between the lines...  Particularly about the line "TV footage also now talking about the CM last year, "Berserk"".  I'm curious to know what that line really means.

Anyhow, in regards to all the comments before about deal breakers and so forth, I definitely see what you guys are saying.  Thanks for taking the time to explain and point out all the many possibilities of what small inconsistencies could lead to.  It's truly going to be nerve racking until the day we finally see the film.  Because the potential is sooooooo great.  High production values, big name studios, TONS of manga story to adapt... the outside world is ready for Berserk.  Let's just hope they don't f* it all up.  As I do with many things, I'm going to hope for the best.

Hearing that a new anime is coming out reawakened all these old feelings. I really still can't believe this is happening.

Same here buddy.  I can't wait to invite some friends over, turn off the lights, and just sit back and be enveloped by it all.  I'm still crossing fingers for Susumu!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 07, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
Interesting, not sure why they would open 2 separate Berserk twitters.

Maybe they wanted to start a good one! :troll:

It's truly going to be nerve racking until the day we finally see the film.  Because the potential is sooooooo great.  High production values, big name studios, TONS of manga story to adapt... the outside world is ready for Berserk.  Let's just hope they don't f* it all up.  As I do with many things, I'm going to hope for the best.

Happy to report that your positive attitude is infectious. Part of the reason I'm not more overtly excited about this is I'm not allowing myself to be because... well, I don't want to be on pins and needles for six months like you guys. I'm employing the Jedi-like patience I've developed by learning how to passively wait for new Berserk episodes until the time comes, and then, "It's out!? WHERE!!?" :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 07, 2011, 05:36:18 PM
Part of the reason I'm not more overtly excited about this is I'm not allowing myself to be because... well, I don't want to be on pins and needles for six months like you guys. I'm employing the Jedi-like patience I've developed by learning how to passively wait for new Berserk episodes until the time comes, and then, "It's out!? Where!!?" :guts:
See, I set certain events to get antsy over. Little things. Like, right now I'm excited tomorrow I'm getting YA with the full article and stuff. Also, I'm really looking forward to the 15th when the site launches and possibly a teaser trailer is released. After that, I'll be looking forward to the following Friday when the new Berserk episode is out. Then hopefully 2 weeks later there'll be another. Then soon, the next volume will be announced probably. Then I'll buy the volume. Etc
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 07, 2011, 06:01:36 PM
Interesting, not sure why they would open 2 separate Berserk twitters.

Berserk_project is controlled by Young Animal and used for more than just giving news about the film. Clara_de_Porras is likely used by the "Berserk Film Partners" (those interest me more than Warner Bros, by the way) and appears to be some sort of roleplay account to tease the launch of the movie. By the way, there seems to be the title of the first movie at the bottom of the website: Berserk - Golden Age I - The Egg of the Supreme King, along with the mention of a "road show" (meaning a nationwide release apparently).

I guess we probably shouldn't expect to see the Black Swordsman arc in there.

As for Studio4C's message, I'm wondering if anyone can give a more accurate translation other than google?  I get the general idea of what they are saying, but am wondering if there is anymore said in between the lines...  Particularly about the line "TV footage also now talking about the CM last year, "Berserk"".  I'm curious to know what that line really means.

It's nothing, they're just saying Berserk was talked about a lot when the CMs were released last year. At the time they were frustrated they couldn't say more about it. They've been working hard and still are, etc.

It's truly going to be nerve racking until the day we finally see the film.  Because the potential is sooooooo great.  High production values, big name studios, TONS of manga story to adapt... the outside world is ready for Berserk.  Let's just hope they don't f* it all up.  As I do with many things, I'm going to hope for the best.

Amen to all that, though my nerves are never racked. :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on July 07, 2011, 06:20:29 PM
If this gets worldwide theatrical release, even if limited, they'll get my ass on a seat, even if the movie turns out to be Berserk: Battlefield Earth.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on July 07, 2011, 06:32:44 PM
Thanks for the info Aaz! By the addition of 'I' in the title, I'm hoping they split the Golden Age in 2 (or more) parts in order to cover all the bits of the manga, I'm really hopeful with all the positive energy around!

Wherever this is playing, I know I'm gonna be there opening night :zodd:.

See, I set certain events to get antsy over. Little things. Like, right now I'm excited tomorrow I'm getting YA with the full article and stuff. Also, I'm really looking forward to the 15th when the site launches and possibly a teaser trailer is released. After that, I'll be looking forward to the following Friday when the new Berserk episode is out. Then hopefully 2 weeks later there'll be another. Then soon, the next volume will be announced probably. Then I'll buy the volume. Etc

Run to your local store and pick it up now! I just got an email from the Kinokuniya around me that they have my copy, so I'm gonna head there after work *high five*
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 07, 2011, 06:38:41 PM
By the addition of 'I' in the title, I'm hoping they split the Golden Age in 2 (or more) parts in order to cover all the bits of the manga, I'm really hopeful with all the positive energy around!

That would be the natural deduction, yes. However I'm not sure that will be enough to cover everything that's in the manga (think about how long it took the TV series in spite of the content it omitted). It already looks like they'll be skipping the Black Swordsman arc, for one thing.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 07, 2011, 06:41:53 PM
By the way, there seems to be the title of the first movie at the bottom of the website: Berserk - Golden Age I - The Egg of the Supreme King, along with the mention of a "road show" (meaning a nationwide release apparently).

I guess we probably shouldn't expect to see the Black Swordsman arc in there.
However I'm not sure that will be enough to cover everything that's in the manga (think about how long it took the TV series in spite of the content it omitted). It already looks like they'll be skipping the Black Swordsman arc, for one thing.

Well, so much for all those good vibrations. With all that manga to animate it's too bad they've committed to the portion of the story we've already seen animated, and which is material better suited to a longform format like a series, in lieu of starting at the beginning and the arc best suited for a stand alone feature film, The Black Swordsman. I just hope they're true to their word to eventually do "everything," though honestly that seems unlikely at this point if they've somehow got Guts and Griffith dueling in the first movie. *grmble grmble* :azan:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on July 07, 2011, 06:42:15 PM
By the way, there seems to be the title of the first movie at the bottom of the website: Berserk - Golden Age I - The Egg of the Supreme King, along with the mention of a "road show"

Black Swordsman arc still not getting any love... :( Unless they'll tell the story chronologically, which i highly doubt.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 07, 2011, 06:54:50 PM
Black Swordsman arc still not getting any love... :( Unless they'll tell the story chronologically, which i highly doubt.

Yeah, at this point I'm hoping it's such a success they go back and do the Black Swordsman stuff out of "excess."
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on July 07, 2011, 06:57:13 PM
There's still a chance it could be chronological. They may be just covering the Golden Age arc in several films in order to gain attention and momentum to an unknowing crowd, since I think the Black Swordsman arc may not stand out quite so well as a one-off film in theaters from a company perspective. For all we know it could be split up into a trilogy.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 07, 2011, 07:04:51 PM
By the way, there seems to be the title of the first movie at the bottom of the website: Berserk - Golden Age I - The Egg of the Supreme King

I guess we probably shouldn't expect to see the Black Swordsman arc in there.

MMMMMMmmmm the biggest revelation so far.  Interesting.  Well, as Incantation pointed out, the "I" signifies the first of a series, so at least we can logically say that they don't plan on squeezing the whole Golden Age into one movie.  Can a 2 hour film squeeze everything from Young Guts meeting Young Griff to the point he leaves the Hawks?  Sounds very ambitious.  We shall see.  2 hours is roughly equivalent to 6 standard anime episodes (like 20 minutes each if you don't count the intro/outro/previews).  The pacing of the first anime took 18 eps of Golden Age story to get to point in time when Guts leaves the Hawks.  So we are looking at 3 times the pacing.  This is all speculation of course...  Maybe this movie won't even get to that scene.  Maybe that scene is in "Golden Age II" or "III"?  Yes, I'm trying my best to stay hopeful!

In regards to the Black Swordsman arc.  Truly a bummer.  Yes, maybe they'll end up adapting the anime in chronological order instead.  I do hope they don't omit it completely.  Sadly, one can assume they made the call of starting with the Golden Age because of money / business reasons.  People like us SK.net'ers are certainly the minority.  Starting with Guts and Griffith and the Band of the Hawk is what the majority of Berserk fans (in the anime world of course) are familiar with.  For advertising and promo reasons, I'm guessing this is the main reason why they are starting with this.  However, perhaps with the TV/OVA launch (or whatever it is) that occurs after the movie, will go back to the Black Swordsman arc?  Still hoping...

There's still a chance it could be chronological. They may be just covering the Golden Age arc in several films in order to gain attention and momentum to an unknowing crowd, since I think the Black Swordsman arc may not stand out quite so well as a one-off film in theaters from a company perspective. For all we know it could be split up into a trilogy.

Yes, what ^^^ said.  I think a movie trilogy of the Golden Age would be heavenly.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Griffith on July 07, 2011, 07:14:24 PM
MMMMMMmmmm the biggest revelation so far.  Interesting.  Well, as Incantation pointed out, the "I" signifies the first of a series, so at least we can logically say that they don't plan on squeezing the whole Golden Age into one movie.  Can a 2 hour film squeeze everything from Young Guts meeting Young Griff to the point he leaves the Hawks?  Sounds very ambitious.  We shall see.  2 hours is roughly equivalent to 6 standard anime episodes (like 20 minutes each if you don't count the intro/outro/previews).  The pacing of the first anime took 18 eps of Golden Age story to get to point in time when Guts leaves the Hawks.  So we are looking at 3 times the pacing.  This is all speculation of course...  Maybe this movie won't even get to that scene.  Maybe that scene is in "Golden Age II" or "III"?  Yes, I'm trying my best to stay hopeful!

You've hit the nail on the head though! If that footage they keep featuring of Guts and Griffith dueling is from this upcoming film, it's already game over for an unabridged adaption unless they get really avant-garde with the timeline and presentation. As you demonstrated above, it certainly couldn't be done in chronological order without MAJOR cuts then.

In regards to the Black Swordsman arc.  Truly a bummer.  Yes, maybe they'll end up adapting the anime in chronological order instead.  I do hope they don't omit it completely.  Sadly, one can assume they made the call of starting with the Golden Age because of money / business reasons.  People like us SK.net'ers are certainly the minority.  Starting with Guts and Griffith and the Band of the Hawk is what the majority of Berserk fans (in the anime world of course) are familiar with.  For advertising and promo reasons, I'm guessing this is the main reason why they are starting with this.  However, perhaps with the TV/OVA launch (or whatever it is) that occurs after the movie, will go back to the Black Swordsman arc?  Still hoping...

I understand that, and I'm hoping that they're so committed to this that they're planning to have Berserk releases out the wazoo in the next decade so it doesn't matter what they put out first other than getting the ball rolling. Still, the length and pacing of the Golden Age arc simply doesn't lend itself naturally to feature films, so how they handle that will make or break this right away from a completest standpoint. I'd feel much more confident about their intentions if they'd announced a Black Swordsman film to be followed by a Golden Age series of some kind.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 07, 2011, 07:20:24 PM
they get really avant-garde with the timeline and presentation.

do not want!

they're so committed to this that they're planning to have Berserk releases out the wazoo in the next decade and so it doesn't matter what they put out first other than getting the ball rolling.

do want!
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Walter on July 07, 2011, 07:21:29 PM
Warner Brothers Animation's involvement is actually very telling, to me. Studio 4C and WBA have partnered together in the past, and their works have been US releases, including The Animatrix, Halo Legends, and Batman: Gotham Knight. This bodes well for us U.S. Berserk fans, I'd say.

And yeah, the title, Berserk - Golden Age I - The Egg of the Supreme King does sort of say almost everything we need to know about this movie's focus. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended with that duel between Griffith and Guts.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on July 07, 2011, 07:27:21 PM
Still, the length and pacing of the Golden Age arc simply doesn't lend itself naturally to feature films

Yes!

Those first 3 volumes would work far far better as one movie. I don't get it man, i'm kinda pissed at this wasted opportunity.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 07, 2011, 07:29:37 PM
I think the Black Swordsman arc may not stand out quite so well as a one-off film in theaters from a company perspective.

I don't think you could make a convincing case for that thought of yours. The Black Swordsman arc is probably the only part of the manga that lends itself to a stand-alone feature film.

Well, as Incantation pointed out, the "I" signifies the first of a series, so at least we can logically say that they don't plan on squeezing the whole Golden Age into one movie.

You know I love you man, but I don't think the expression "no shit sherlock" has ever been more apt.

Starting with Guts and Griffith and the Band of the Hawk is what the majority of Berserk fans (in the anime world of course) are familiar with.

I doubt there are many Berserk fans left in the anime world compared to the guys who've been buying the manga for the past 10 years. But yeah, no doubt those "anime fans" just want to see the same segment of the story again. Sound reasoning.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: DirectDK on July 07, 2011, 07:32:25 PM
You know I love you man, but I don't think the expression "no shit sherlock" has ever been more apt.

LOLOL, I love you too, you bastard! :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on July 07, 2011, 07:38:41 PM
Skull Knight's in one of the promos too, so MAYBE it doesn't end where Guts and Griffith have their duel (!) unless that promo clip's for part II already (ha ha!).
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on July 07, 2011, 07:44:46 PM
I don't think you could make a convincing case for that thought of yours. The Black Swordsman arc is probably the only part of the manga that lends itself to a stand-alone feature film.

I would have said the opposite. The lack of the key characters from the Golden Age wouldn't lend itself too highly to a fresh, new audience (I'm keeping in mind that comment Miura made recently about introducing a new generation) as people wouldn't see the great depth that Berserk goes into within that one film. People not familiar with the series would simply sum it up as "an angry man with a sword fighting demons for a couple of hours", not taking into account the real bulk of why Guts is doing what he's doing. For people into action and disgruntled fans of the series thirsty for something to be animated correctly, yes it works beautifully. But from a studio perspective, they would want to keep the established Berserk fans happy and also introduce a new audience to what is arguably the most popular and vital arc of the series without clouding their vision.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 07, 2011, 07:46:11 PM
Skull Knight's in one of the promos too, so MAYBE it doesn't end where Guts and Griffith have their duel (!) unless that promo clip's for part II already (ha ha!).
Well, one of the promos also features Griffith in his angelbird armor with the little wing shoulder, so I think it's safe to assume that some of the stuff they did for the promos aren't necessarily for the 1st movie.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Aazealh on July 07, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
The lack of the key characters from the Golden Age wouldn't lend itself too highly to a fresh, new audience (I'm keeping in mind that comment Miura made recently about introducing a new generation) as people wouldn't see the great depth that Berserk goes into within that one film. People not familiar with the series would simply sum it up as "an angry man with a sword fighting demons for a couple of hours", not taking into account the real bulk of why Guts is doing what he's doing.

That's not true. The Black Swordsman arc is the perfect introduction to the series in every way one can think of (which is why the author made it so). It introduces a lot of key concepts as it goes along, all the while hinting at deeper motivations behind Guts' actions while it introduces the character, which culminates with his meeting with the God Hand in volume 3 and the flashback of his talk with Griffith. The Golden Age arc is then a natural transition. I don't see how any of the characters introduced during the Golden Age arc are essential to the discovery of the series by a fresh, new audience. And that's because they're not essential, of course.

Meanwhile, starting the story directly with the Golden Age arc means a lot of key elements (apostles, beherits, the brand, the sacrifices, and in general the world Berserk takes place in) are withheld from the viewer. Said viewer is therefore a lot more likely to be perplexed when he's exposed to more of the series, which is highly undesirable. Like I said, you just can't make a good case for it.

As for doing the series in a chronological order, it wouldn't be much better than completely ignoring the Black Swordsman arc, simply because that's not how it was meant to be experienced. The volumes are in the order they are for a good reason. Please don't tell me I'm going to have to post examples.

But from a studio perspective, they would want to keep the established Berserk fans happy and also introduce a new audience to what is arguably the most popular and vital arc of the series without clouding their vision.

They said the adaptation would be faithful. So far it's not going too well. That's not what I call keeping the established fans happy. As for the Golden Age arc, it's not any more vital than the other arcs, and certainly not more representative of what the series is about. You speak of clouding people's vision but it's clearly your own vision that is clouded right now.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: IncantatioN on July 07, 2011, 08:12:14 PM
Well, one of the promos also features Griffith in his angelbird armor with the little wing shoulder, so I think it's safe to assume that some of the stuff they did for the promos aren't necessarily for the 1st movie.

*sigh* ... good point.

I would have said the opposite. The lack of the key characters from the Golden Age wouldn't lend itself too highly to a fresh, new audience (I'm keeping in mind that comment Miura made recently about introducing a new generation) as people wouldn't see the great depth that Berserk goes into within that one film. People not familiar with the series would simply sum it up as "an angry man with a sword fighting demons for a couple of hours", not taking into account the real bulk of why Guts is doing what he's doing. For people into action and disgruntled fans of the series thirsty for something to be animated correctly, yes it works beautifully. But from a studio perspective, they would want to keep the established Berserk fans happy and also introduce a new audience to what is arguably the most popular and vital arc of the series without clouding their vision.

Actually the current fan base (excluding purists) think Berserk in a nutshell is all about Guts kicking ass and being a badass, other than the fact that there's copious amounts of blood involved. It's the primary thing that I know people (who I've met at Otakon the past 3 years) relate to from the conversations I've had with em. So, the Black Swordsman arc would fit perfectly in that regard making sure the regular fans come back and it's also a win-win for purists because it's the right way to start the series of movie projects.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: NightCrawler on July 07, 2011, 08:21:00 PM
People not familiar with the series would simply sum it up as "an angry man with a sword fighting demons for a couple of hours", not taking into account the real bulk of why Guts is doing what he's doing.

You're probably thinking (and wrongly!) like the studios. I guess it's a generalized idea...
I can't think of any other way to start Berserk than with the foundations, the catalysts, the motivations and the basic themes that are ALL done in the Black Swordsman arc. But Aaz explained it far better than me.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: Gobolatula on July 07, 2011, 08:32:33 PM
I wonder how much Miura is involved in this. I wonder if he's thinking, "Wow, here we go again," sending script corrections back to the studio, scripts covering the same area as they covered before. Revisiting the same arc. Must be either tiresome or hopefully a welcome blast-from-the-past for him.
Title: Re: New Berserk animation project confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on July 07, 2011, 08:42:21 PM