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Title: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on September 29, 2010, 01:23:59 AM
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The BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) Project

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) is a fan project with the goal of editing the Kenpū Denki Berserk (剣風伝奇ベルセルク) anime to more faithfully represent the manga and Miura's vision. The result is hopefully a more faithful and streamlined anime adaptation of Berserk using the manga as script and storyboard. Feel free to compare it to the original anime as well as the manga. As a matter of fact, for the best experience it's recommended that you read the manga along with it. All feedback is welcome.

Releases (updated weekly): Part 01 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlsbpYogrY), Part 02 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCc76kkdJQk), Part 03 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmsv6kFxUh4), Part 04 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzzu7C_5GAE), Part 05 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od3hh4zIS4M), Part 06 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO8eDOUVy48), Part 07 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RnO7m7M77M), Part 08 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWwJ5xB4P8), Part 09 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ClrdtNdg0), Part 10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcRHENJxeo), Part 11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o682iijhrCk), Part 12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs1qoXofuoA), Part 13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-BRCdwjXXQ), Part 14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhpGmHqFu0), Part 15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2o9dCkQI_s), Part 16 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31IGJULl91k), Part 17 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSON0RJAd0), Part 18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlfYJ4FbBI), Part 19 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMFxR8r-f5A), Part 20 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFyWJUC3H5U), Part 21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w_TNUtPKmw), Part 22 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEA09QUmQE), Part 23 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgtZqCxv0s), Part 24 (New!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dny-uGXPxVM)

Next Release: TBA



BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
RELEASES:


PART I:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 1
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlsbpYogrY

http://www.youtube.com/v/7zlsbpYogrY



PART II:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 2
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlsbpYogrY

http://www.youtube.com/v/tCc76kkdJQk



PART III:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 3
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmsv6kFxUh4

http://www.youtube.com/v/wmsv6kFxUh4



PART IV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 4
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzzu7C_5GAE

http://www.youtube.com/v/Mzzu7C_5GAE



PART V:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 5
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od3hh4zIS4M

http://www.youtube.com/v/Od3hh4zIS4M



PART VI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 6
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO8eDOUVy48

http://www.youtube.com/v/mO8eDOUVy48



PART VII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 7
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RnO7m7M77M

http://www.youtube.com/v/6RnO7m7M77M



PART VIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 8
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWwJ5xB4P8

http://www.youtube.com/v/FrWwJ5xB4P8



PART IX:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 9
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ClrdtNdg0

http://www.youtube.com/v/k_ClrdtNdg0



PART X:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 10
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcRHENJxeo

http://www.youtube.com/v/VkcRHENJxeo



PART XI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 11
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o682iijhrCk

http://www.youtube.com/v/o682iijhrCk



PART XII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 12
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs1qoXofuoA

http://www.youtube.com/v/Rs1qoXofuoA



PART XIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 13
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-BRCdwjXXQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/k-BRCdwjXXQ



PART XIV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 14
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhpGmHqFu0

http://www.youtube.com/v/SHhpGmHqFu0



PART XV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 15
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2o9dCkQI_s

http://www.youtube.com/v/h2o9dCkQI_s



PART XVI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 16
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31IGJULl91k

http://www.youtube.com/v/31IGJULl91k



PART XVII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 17
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSON0RJAd0

http://www.youtube.com/v/lZSON0RJAd0



PART XVIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 18
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlfYJ4FbBI

http://www.youtube.com/v/dQlfYJ4FbBI



PART XIX:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 19
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMFxR8r-f5A

http://www.youtube.com/v/IMFxR8r-f5A



PART XX:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 20
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFyWJUC3H5U

http://www.youtube.com/v/tFyWJUC3H5U



PART XXI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 21
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w_TNUtPKmw

http://www.youtube.com/v/_w_TNUtPKmw



PART XXII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 22
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEA09QUmQE

http://www.youtube.com/v/JBEA09QUmQE



PART XXIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 23
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgtZqCxv0s

http://www.youtube.com/v/DqgtZqCxv0s



PART XXIV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 24
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dny-uGXPxVM

http://www.youtube.com/v/dny-uGXPxVM
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed
Post by: Lithrael on September 29, 2010, 01:58:49 AM
I think it's pretty cool.  I wouldn't mind pitching in to add bits from the manga if you don't think that would be too jarring.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on September 29, 2010, 02:03:58 AM
I really like the idea you have going with these. They seem to work really well keeping it very minimal almost giving it a flashback feel.

I think example 1 just needs a little bit more sanding down, to help get things flowing better. Than again, I don't really have my copy of vol 1 on hand to reference too.

I'll edit this in the morning when I've had more sleep, but yeah I really like this.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed
Post by: Grail on September 29, 2010, 03:42:48 AM
I'm enjoying this! :serpico: It's interesting to see exactly how much the creators of the anime altered the original work in their attempts to compress a much longer narrative.

Like Bob said, it's got a nice flashbacky feel to it, so that even if we don't get to see the portions that were omitted, it's still fun to feel like you're "watching" parts of the manga. I think you've got an exciting project on your hands Griff, and I'd definitely like to see more!
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed
Post by: JezzaX on September 29, 2010, 09:08:30 AM
I've watched the first two minutes so far and I already notice a wealth of difference when compared to the original anime. The original cut gave you the impression that Guts was there to save the girl and her family, which made him more of a 'Dark Knight' figure. This new cut gives you the impression that Guts is there for a more selfish motive, that he's far more reactive (the girl in the original cut screams to warn Guts of the last guy he cuts in half) and that he's a conflicted individual. All that improvement from two minutes in. I'll gladly back this work up and wish to see more

EDIT: I would say some of the later cuts need a little fine tuning, the edits with Guts and Griffith, to Guts and Gambino are a little abrupt. I would consider that a very difficult obstacle to overcome though considering how much material you have available to work with.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed
Post by: Walter on September 29, 2010, 05:31:07 PM
EDIT: I would say some of the later cuts need a little fine tuning, the edits with Guts and Griffith, to Guts and Gambino are a little abrupt. I would consider that a very difficult obstacle to overcome though considering how much material you have available to work with.
Like I suggested to Griff last night, that particular transition could benefit from employing the dream sequence in episode 1, where we first see the God Hand. It could transition from Griffith's "ultimate principle" speech to Femto, and Guts saying "Griffith..." Similar to how Miura does it in volume 3. Buuuut the problem there is that that dream sequence isn't in the manga at all, so it's against the whole principle of the project.

I can see how this thing would be headache-inducing... Still, it's a great concept and a valiant effort to correct the wrongs of the anime.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Griffith on September 29, 2010, 08:52:18 PM
I think it's pretty cool.  I wouldn't mind pitching in to add bits from the manga if you don't think that would be too jarring.

Wow, thank you very much for the offer, Lith! I had considered it before (particularly a reaction shot of Puck), but wasn't confident in my abilities to create an image that would fit the style of the anime (it could be very jarring, as you pointed). I'm definitely interested to see what we can do.

I really like the idea you have going with these. They seem to work really well keeping it very minimal almost giving it a flashback feel.

I think example 1 just needs a little bit more sanding down, to help get things flowing better. Than again, I don't really have my copy of vol 1 on hand to reference too.

I'll edit this in the morning when I've had more sleep, but yeah I really like this.

Thanks, and yeah, that video, even edited down as it is, still has some non-manga fat stuck in there.

I'm enjoying this! :serpico: It's interesting to see exactly how much the creators of the anime altered the original work in their attempts to compress a much longer narrative.

That's the maddening thing, I've come to better understand, and even admire some of their choices, the way they cut a lot of material, but used other parts to get the same point across concerning Guts' growth and his relationship with the audience. Unfortunately, that goes hand in hand with like 3-4 episodes worth of filler nonsense that's totally unforgivable considering that time and money could have gone towards depicting major sections that were omitted (Wyald comes to mind). It completely undermines their decent and even creative abridgment efforts.

Like Bob said, it's got a nice flashbacky feel to it, so that even if we don't get to see the portions that were omitted, it's still fun to feel like you're "watching" parts of the manga. I think you've got an exciting project on your hands Griff, and I'd definitely like to see more!

Thank you, and things smooth out a lot more once it gets stabilized with the Hawks and isn't jumping around so much. At that point, it almost plays out exactly like the manga in stretches. Episode 1 is a big hurdle though, I've spent more time editing it than any other, and I've gone through all 25 on multiple occasions.

I've watched the first two minutes so far and I already notice a wealth of difference when compared to the original anime. The original cut gave you the impression that Guts was there to save the girl and her family, which made him more of a 'Dark Knight' figure. This new cut gives you the impression that Guts is there for a more selfish motive, that he's far more reactive (the girl in the original cut screams to warn Guts of the last guy he cuts in half) and that he's a conflicted individual. All that improvement from two minutes in. I'll gladly back this work up and wish to see more

Thanks, part of the motivation for this is that there's still a lot of good material from the manga in the anime, and it's compelling, but it's just waiting to be cut out from the inappropriate fluff they added. I'm surprised how much better most scenes work when their cut to fit the manga more closely, considering the differences in the mediums, you would think most of the animators additions were really necessary. Nope.

EDIT: I would say some of the later cuts need a little fine tuning, the edits with Guts and Griffith, to Guts and Gambino are a little abrupt. I would consider that a very difficult obstacle to overcome though considering how much material you have available to work with.

Like I suggested to Griff last night, that particular transition could benefit from employing the dream sequence in episode 1, where we first see the God Hand. It could transition from Griffith's "ultimate principle" speech to Femto, and Guts saying "Griffith..." Similar to how Miura does it in volume 3. Buuuut the problem there is that that dream sequence isn't in the manga at all, so it's against the whole principle of the project.

Exactly, there's even more to it than that, like before that dream sequence, in the woods, there's dialogue and scenes with the ghosts haunting Guts similar to parts of the second episode of volume 1, but it's so mangled, it's almost impossible to salvage a coherent scene out of it. There's several other instances like that later, and compromises do have to be made, such as the extent of Gambino's injuries, and Guts stabbing him in the chest rather than the neck (are those superficial differences enough to merit cutting those critical scenes altogether?). Anyway, I don't want to get too creative here, if that makes sense. I'm basically using the manga as the storyboard, so even though I could round things out a little more by using some creative editing of the material, it kind of goes against the point like you said. I look at it like, this isn't my edit, I don't have any right to authorship, it's an attempt at Miura's version, he's the director, I'm just the editor, and my job is to cut the "raw footage" together as true to his vision as possible with the material I have available. That's how I'm going at it.

I can see how this thing would be headache-inducing... Still, it's a great concept and a valiant effort to correct the wrongs of the anime.

Thank you again for the kind words, it means a lot. This has actually been in the makings for years, and it's actually a lot of fun when you get down to it. It's also been a great way to study Berserk, both the manga and anime, on a level few probably have.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Gobolatula on September 30, 2010, 01:46:22 AM
Gonna go this far Griffith? Come on, you can do it:
(http://www.erikthejuiceman.com/wingowongo.jpg)
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: IncantatioN on September 30, 2010, 02:07:37 AM
Cool project! I like the idea of the re-edit that's true to the manga. I'd love to see Wyad's EPIC fight incorporated in the series. I watched the old aniime first before reading the manga, and was in such a good surprise when that fight popped up.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Griffith on September 30, 2010, 07:22:38 AM
Gonna go this far Griffith? Come on, you can do it:
http://www.erikthejuiceman.com/wingowongo.jpg

Be careful calling on me, I might just raise the stakes:

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/femtobw.jpg)

Speaking of which, I just watched Guts raising hell in the tavern in black and white and it looked pretty cool. :guts:

Cool project! I like the idea of the re-edit that's true to the manga. I'd love to see Wyad's EPIC fight incorporated in the series. I watched the old aniime first before reading the manga, and was in such a good surprise when that fight popped up.

That whole altered escape sequence in the anime is still a troublesome problem. It totally bastardizes the scene, but still contains an important moment, when Griffith's condition is revealed to the Hawks. Regardless, it's beyond saving and simply had to be cut altogether. I only wish I could animate Wyald into it, but even trying to smoothly insert a Puck reaction shot like the one below is already an iffy enough proposition.

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/puckcameo.jpg)
"Where'd I go!?"
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2010, 07:28:09 AM
I think you should stay limited in what you do. Adding stuff is a little drastic, but editing existing material so it fits better with the manga's sequencing is a totally realizeable task. I dont think anyone really expects NEW animation in this.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: JezzaX on September 30, 2010, 07:37:06 AM
Will you be subbing the anime so it's in line with the original manga dialog too? It also gives you an opportunity to get words and names correct (Beherit etc)
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Aphasia on September 30, 2010, 08:54:34 PM
I don't think color grading Femto would be that hard.  Time consuming, but not hard with a little after effects.  Lots of rotoscoping.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Lithrael on September 30, 2010, 10:05:22 PM
I don't think color grading Femto would be that hard.  Time consuming, but not hard with a little after effects.  Lots of rotoscoping.

Yeah without even thinking about how to properly do it, I know it'd be possible to just batch process a color adjustment on the frames using Photoshop.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 12:10:09 AM
I think you should stay limited in what you do. Adding stuff is a little drastic, but editing existing material so it fits better with the manga's sequencing is a totally realizeable task. I dont think anyone really expects NEW animation in this.

Oh, don't worry, I'm not animating ANYTHING! :ganishka: Fortunately, my limited abilities keep me from really doing anything too radical anyway. Like I said, even trying to add a still Puck reaction shot is iffy.

Will you be subbing the anime so it's in line with the original manga dialog too? It also gives you an opportunity to get words and names correct (Beherit etc)

I definitely have all that in mind, and have edited accordingly; not only have I cut based on the visuals of the manga, but the dialogue as well. A quick explanation of the process, I'd have the raw episode in my editor, the media blaster DVD open separately with the subs on, and the corresponding Dark Horse manga volume in hand; that's how I went through every episode. If it wasn't in the manga, it's likely gone with a few exceptions, right down to a single word, phrase, or even laugh removed in some cases.

An interesting example where those two disciplines cross paths and conflict in the anime is right before Guts is first promoted in the Hawks (when Rickert knocks him in the water). In the manga, before that happens, he has a lengthy inner monologue about the aim of his life since leaving Gambino, and Griffith's ambition. In the anime, the monologue isn't there, but portions of it appear in an expanded scene of Guts riding into battle, where we also see his flashbacks of Gambino. So, you can appreciate how it makes sense for the anime's purposes, but for mine it's a quandary: there's technically a scene where Guts rides into battle in the manga, before it flashes forward three years, and that dialogue is technically in the manga as well, just in a different part, so do I leave it in, just in a different spot, or not? It's not that much out of order, but you could argue it drastically changes the significance of both scenes, maybe worse than the anime originally did. It isn't just a superficial difference, or one where I can easily compromise (like two pieces of complimentary dialogue by a character being reversed, e.g. "Thanks, I'm good" versus "I'm good, thanks" which changes nothing. Anyway, my motto in difficult cases like this is, "when in doubt, cut it out."

But, I DIGRESS, as for actually subbing it, I'd like to have that option, but it's not a priority until the edit is 100%.

I don't think color grading Femto would be that hard.  Time consuming, but not hard with a little after effects.  Lots of rotoscoping.
Yeah without even thinking about how to properly do it, I know it'd be possible to just batch process a color adjustment on the frames using Photoshop.

Colors were another thing I was going to just let go, but you guys are making a good push. I don't know, I'm only half kidding about the black and white thing. One of my original ideas was to try and get it down to about three hours, black & white, and have it be like an old Kurosawa movie. :guts:

I don't know though, most probably couldn't stomach that? BTW, the current rough cut is about 6 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 01, 2010, 06:03:36 AM

Colors were another thing I was going to just let go, but you guys are making a good push. I don't know, I'm only half kidding about the black and white thing. One of my original ideas was to try and get it down to about three hours, black & white, and have it be like an old Kurosawa movie. :guts:


Making it into a feature film type of deal would be epic. I do admit liking of what I've seen so far. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Griffith on October 01, 2010, 07:10:39 PM
Making it into a feature film type of deal would be epic. I do admit liking of what I've seen so far. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the feedback. Everyone should feel free to suggest what they want, or don't. That's what I'm looking for with this thread.

Don't be shy, folks, let me know where you come down on the different ideas being kicked around in here!
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Walter on October 01, 2010, 08:06:56 PM
I like the modest direction you've taken so far, with editing out the portions that don't line up with the manga. Moving forward, I think you should really think seriously about the scope of the project, if you haven't already. Will this thing have a complete runtime of 90 min, or 500? By cutting the fat, I think you could, on average, shorten each episode to around 15 minutes or so, making the entire 25 episode run about 375 minutes. Anything shorter than that might feel a little rushed, like, say if you tried to make it into a feature length film.

Another thing, you should really consider smoothing transitions between scenes, particularly when it's a transition you fabricated for the purpose of the project. A suggestion to remedy these transitions is to take ambient audio samples from lulls in conversation to be used as background static. You can pair these SFX with static or looped visuals in order to lengthen a scene that feels like it ends too abruptly as a result of necessary trimming.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Eluvei on October 01, 2010, 08:10:06 PM
This is a very promising project, you should keep it up!

If it wasn't in the manga, it's likely gone with a few exceptions, right down to a single word, phrase, or even laugh removed in some cases.

Aren't there any situations where editing stuff out (or changing the order of the scenes) makes the dialogue completely nonsensical? I'm talking specifically about the dialogue, not the significance of the scene or where it fits better in the context of the anime, like you already made clear to JezzaX. I think you'll be very lucky if you can simply "cut the fat" out of small scenes and get away with it making complete sense in Japanese. Maybe it makes sense when you see the subs, but only because they've adapted the dialogue, so you better have someone check it out before you completely trust the original subs.

Also, if you plan on making new subtitles to bring it closer to the manga, you really gotta have someone that knows Japanese check this out, because simply subbing something different than what the character is saying would also be pretty bad, in my opinion. It'd be assuming everyone that'd watch it simply doesn't know Japanese and would accept adapted, or totally different subtitles. Obviously, I'm referring to bigger changes, not simple correction of names. I think the dialogue could be a pretty big problem later on if you don't be careful now.

And I don't think inserting Puck in there would do it any good, to be honest. It'd stand out too much.

Anyway, this is really great. I hope you realize you can't stop now. It's too late, we're all looking forward to it. :guts:
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Rhombaad on October 01, 2010, 08:12:32 PM
I'm really enjoying this so far and can't wait to see how it turns out. :serpico:
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 02, 2010, 03:00:26 AM
This is more into the future but when you do start showing theses episodes, you should either host them on the site here or post them up on a torrent site.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 02, 2010, 03:25:03 AM
At first I thought you went off the deep end, Griff. Until I read into what you were dong I thought this was akin to a Star Wars nut trying to create a life-size replica of a star destroyer. lol well, maybe a little less preposterous. :ganishka:

I like your attention to detail, but I wouldn't cut something completely if it's just at a different time than in the manga. It happened, so it has a place. It just might not be possible to cut it to when it should play. Of course you can't be 100% accurate, as the animation itself isn't accurate. As shown right off the bat when Guts throws the knife into the surviving mercenaries shoulder in the tavern, as opposed to shooting an arrow through his nose. Small alterations like that can't be cut. Or the scenes stop making sense. (Does your cut of all the episodes make sense?)

I think it's a very interesting and rather ambitious project you got going. Not to mention respectable. One of the killer problems with the anime has always been the shitcream filler. I wouldn't mind watching a 4-6 hour long version of the anime. No fillers, less extended still shots with nothing but sound and music, and recut to be in a more recognizable order.

Good luck.




Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Aphasia on October 02, 2010, 03:53:22 AM
This is more into the future but when you do start showing theses episodes, you should either host them on the site here or post them up on a torrent site.

I would seed this.  I actually just got around to watching it today, but I really like where you're going with it! It's an incredibly difficult undertaking, I can't imagine trying to piece together all the inaccuracies.  This makes me even more hopeful for a new anime that sticks closer to it's source.

Awesome title, by the way.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: CowTip on October 02, 2010, 05:14:56 AM
So I hate to be a stick in the mud, but what's the legality of distributing something like this? I realize there's certain laws behind creative freedoms with licenses as long as you're not profiting etc., but torrenting out entire parts of the anime seems sort of questionable to me.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Lithrael on October 02, 2010, 01:25:26 PM
You haven't heard of http://fanedit.org/ (http://fanedit.org/)?
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Truder on October 02, 2010, 01:31:30 PM
Are you allowed to download movies from there? Because I can't figure it out. T_T
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Lithrael on October 02, 2010, 02:04:52 PM
Are you allowed to download movies from there? Because I can't figure it out. T_T
Basically on fanedit.org the deal is, you must own your own copy of the edited material, and you are provided with the means to download the fanedit.  Usually using torrents or filehosting aggregators.  Last thing I picked up there was The Recobbled Cut, a resurrected version of the awesomely trippy but gutted-and-Disneyfied-for-release The Thief and the Cobbler.  That one was hosted as billionty Rapidshare files, which I d/l'd with JDownloader.  If anyone would like help using the site just PM me.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Griffith on October 03, 2010, 09:07:08 PM
Thanks for the feedback all, sorry I've been away. Here's another morsel:

http://www.youtube.com/v/wWO6FYUOiGg
Zodd!

This one is rougher than the last and well behind where the current edit of this episode stands, but if you're curious and familiar with the original episode, then juxtapose it with this and the manga. This portion is what made me realize how really different the details of even the seemingly faithful scenes were, and the potential to workably restore them to the manga's direction.

I like the modest direction you've taken so far, with editing out the portions that don't line up with the manga. Moving forward, I think you should really think seriously about the scope of the project, if you haven't already. Will this thing have a complete runtime of 90 min, or 500? By cutting the fat, I think you could, on average, shorten each episode to around 15 minutes or so, making the entire 25 episode run about 375 minutes. Anything shorter than that might feel a little rushed, like, say if you tried to make it into a feature length film.

Yeah, indecisiveness on that front has slowed me down before (there was even more elaborate ideas I was doing on the side when I'd get bored of straight editing, like editing it to be from Griffith's POV =), but right now I'm going with the longform approach where I use whatever I can to best piece together what's there of the manga (BTW, that's exactly the average time I had in mind for cutting down each episode, 15 minutes). I figure once i finish that, I can always go from big to small later, like a movie, which would at the very least mean tightening my standards even more (bye bye Puckless Black Swordsman, two-legged Gambino, and Zodd getting stabbed in the chest).

Another thing, you should really consider smoothing transitions between scenes, particularly when it's a transition you fabricated for the purpose of the project. A suggestion to remedy these transitions is to take ambient audio samples from lulls in conversation to be used as background static. You can pair these SFX with static or looped visuals in order to lengthen a scene that feels like it ends too abruptly as a result of necessary trimming.

Yeah, it's a tricky balance trying to tighten things up but still letting them breath. I'm still trying to gauge out how much of it is subjective on my part alone. Cuts that seemed abrupt at first eventually felt normal, and the original agonizingly long in some cases, like the scene had already breathed, and then it was just stalling out. You guys are obviously noticing cuts that feel weird, though, so it's something I'll pay more attention to if it can be helped.

On a releated subject, in most cases I've cut out loops or redundant visuals. There's already no same sword strike being shown three times in a row for effect in this edit (see Gambino's first kill in the the first example video), or sloppy repeating animations for fight scenes. My mentality has been the tighter the better, especially at this lengths.

This is a very promising project, you should keep it up!

Aren't there any situations where editing stuff out (or changing the order of the scenes) makes the dialogue completely nonsensical? I'm talking specifically about the dialogue, not the significance of the scene or where it fits better in the context of the anime, like you already made clear to JezzaX. I think you'll be very lucky if you can simply "cut the fat" out of small scenes and get away with it making complete sense in Japanese. Maybe it makes sense when you see the subs, but only because they've adapted the dialogue, so you better have someone check it out before you completely trust the original subs.

Also, if you plan on making new subtitles to bring it closer to the manga, you really gotta have someone that knows Japanese check this out, because simply subbing something different than what the character is saying would also be pretty bad, in my opinion. It'd be assuming everyone that'd watch it simply doesn't know Japanese and would accept adapted, or totally different subtitles. Obviously, I'm referring to bigger changes, not simple correction of names. I think the dialogue could be a pretty big problem later on if you don't be careful now.

Great points all, I tried to avoid that for the most part, there's only a couple of instances I can think of where I made cuts in the middle of dialogue (and it was things with a pronounced pause between lines, so it's not like I tried ignorantly editing a word within a sentence) but I'll really have to go back and check on them with someone to be sure they make sense. That's one problem with doing this myself, I'm plain not qualified to do it all myself. If there's going to be a sub, I'm going to need help, but first thing's first, just getting a raw done (I can always take the ultra-purist approach, precluding subbing, but that would certainly cut down on its casual appeal =).

And I don't think inserting Puck in there would do it any good, to be honest. It'd stand out too much.

It'd be a miracle if it didn't, yeah.

Anyway, this is really great. I hope you realize you can't stop now. It's too late, we're all looking forward to it. :guts:

That's half the reason I posted about it, pressure's on now! :griffnotevil:

At first I thought you went off the deep end, Griff. Until I read into what you were dong I thought this was akin to a Star Wars nut trying to create a life-size replica of a star destroyer. lol well, maybe a little less preposterous. :ganishka:

I like your attention to detail, but I wouldn't cut something completely if it's just at a different time than in the manga. It happened, so it has a place. It just might not be possible to cut it to when it should play. Of course you can't be 100% accurate, as the animation itself isn't accurate. As shown right off the bat when Guts throws the knife into the surviving mercenaries shoulder in the tavern, as opposed to shooting an arrow through his nose. Small alterations like that can't be cut. Or the scenes stop making sense. (Does your cut of all the episodes make sense?)

Yeah, I'm very conscious of that, though once something gets moved to a different scene, and especially a totally new scene, it goes on the chopping block. I see that as different from purely superficial differences such as whether Guts stabs someone in the shoulder or in the nose. Also, considering the aim of the project and what it starts with, if Puck, Skull Knight, Silat, and Wyald can be cut, so can a bastardized monologue that's themes are explored more faithfully in numerous other instances. Like I said though, I plan to do it as best as I can keeping everything I can intact.

I think it's a very interesting and rather ambitious project you got going. Not to mention respectable. One of the killer problems with the anime has always been the shitcream filler. I wouldn't mind watching a 4-6 hour long version of the anime. No fillers, less extended still shots with nothing but sound and music, and recut to be in a more recognizable order.

Good luck.

Thank you, that's what I'm aiming for.

So I hate to be a stick in the mud, but what's the legality of distributing something like this? I realize there's certain laws behind creative freedoms with licenses as long as you're not profiting etc., but torrenting out entire parts of the anime seems sort of questionable to me.

Good question, when I had it in mind to make it into a movie I was thinking torrent, which has its issues as you allude to, but I've found that uploading to youtube is pretty easy and secure for this (I can always leave them unlisted and post links on the board, insulate it from unscrupulous pirates and authorities alike. The way I'm editing and outputting the videos, it's easier that way than trying to piece them altogether into one giant 3-6 hour video anyway, so I might just go with that, if nobody has a good reason not to.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Rus on October 04, 2010, 08:04:31 AM
Hey Griff, i really enjoyed the clips. I have to admit that i haven't watched the anime, because i only heard bad things about it, so i can't really compare it to your project. Judging from the clips, i would love to see it finish. Good work there mate  :guts:
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: IncantatioN on October 04, 2010, 02:14:44 PM
Nice work on the new clip too!
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Griffith on October 08, 2010, 11:03:14 AM
Speaking of which, I just watched Guts raising hell in the tavern in black and white and it looked pretty cool. :guts:

Just in case you thought I was kidding...

http://www.youtube.com/v/A4srASj1qTQ

I got your Femto, and every other, color fix right here!

I implore everyone to put this in full screen 480p and give it a look, even if you already watched the first video. This is the most recent edit of this part, it's only eight minutes long, and it's fun if you like Berserk and old movies. I also want serious feedback on the black and white (love it or hate, you better tell me; at the moment I'm not inclined to do it for the long haul). I think that no matter how Berserk Recut ultimately comes out, I'm going to do a 2-3 hour Golden Age movie in this style afterward. :SK:
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Eluvei on October 08, 2010, 11:33:48 AM
Great edit. Felt a little short, but I suppose it'd be filled with... well, filler, if it wasn't this way. I have no complaints for now, but I'll make sure to watch it again later.

About the black and white, to be honest, it didn't cut it for me. Maybe it's because the saturation gave away that you decolored something that had... colors (am i redundant today), with things like the blood (too light grey, should have been darker; I'm sure you noticed) and other details like the Snake Baron himself, he looked a little bleak. I think overall it just didn't look so good.

The idea is great, (the name of the video too) but I think that because of the way the anime was colored, removing the color information takes away too much of its vivacity. Not that it's full of life or anything, but you know what I mean. :void:
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: PublicEnemy on October 09, 2010, 04:07:19 PM
I say do the movie project in Black and White first.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Henry Spencer on October 09, 2010, 06:24:20 PM
This is a fantastic project you have here, so many opportunities to get it right. Excellent job so far. Couple of questions for you.

I'm really wondering what you're going to do regarding SK and the original (abrupt) ending of the anime? Are you going to be cutting down on Adon and his shenanigans? Please say you are.
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: Skullgrin140 on October 09, 2010, 09:21:37 PM
Indeed this is a nice project you have started, So far what I have seen is very well edited and alot more enjoyable to watch as well. Hope to see more :)
Title: Re: Old Berserk animation series confirmed: Berserk Recut
Post by: aufond on October 09, 2010, 10:57:24 PM
Have you seen Watchmen: The motion comic?  It's simply the art from the comic, with minor edits and added effects to give it a more cinematic feel.  The main problem with it is there is only one voice actor doing every character, including the women.  Because of this fatal flaw, I couldn't take it seriously at all.  But otherwise it was actually really well done, the music was even really cool.  Personally, I think that's the only way to go about a project like this.  Just cutting up the anime and changing things around doesn't really work, I'd prefer the uncut original anime over this any day.  But we can all agree that the manga is by far superior to the anime, so why not just do something like a motion comic?  Like this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PE22PP4lKw , only with voice acting/music and in sequential order.  Only if someone does it, please God don't do all the voices by yourself.  Even a bunch of amatuers would be better than nothing, and still probably not too far off from the English dubbing in the anime (though I do think the English voice-actors are quite fitting)
Title: BERSERK: RECUT
Post by: Griffith on October 14, 2010, 08:54:42 AM
Great edit. Felt a little short, but I suppose it'd be filled with... well, filler, if it wasn't this way. I have no complaints for now, but I'll make sure to watch it again later.

Thanks, any specific feedback is appreciated, it's already been a big help just on some of the edits of that first episode. Though, I did skirt the line of editing dialogue again between the Snake Baron and the Mayor. I sure hope those subtitles were accurate and in order. =) Maybe someone could call me out on that though if there's any gibberish to ears that can hear Japanese? The current edit of their conversation appears in the Black & White video above a few of minutes in.

About the black and white, to be honest, it didn't cut it for me. Maybe it's because the saturation gave away that you decolored something that had... colors (am i redundant today), with things like the blood (too light grey, should have been darker; I'm sure you noticed) and other details like the Snake Baron himself, he looked a little bleak. I think overall it just didn't look so good.

The idea is great, (the name of the video too) but I think that because of the way the anime was colored, removing the color information takes away too much of its vivacity. Not that it's full of life or anything, but you know what I mean. :void:

Yeah, I know what you mean, just because you take the color out of a video, doesn't make it "black and white." The worst thing is indeed the blood, and even that aside I don't know how long even I'd want to stare at this in grayscale. I do however like how it works at lot of the time too, it covers up a multitude of sins and can breath life into even some of the worse looking scenes and shots and make them interesting, as well as making the whole thing more unique from the original anime. Like I said, it's probably best reserved for a shorter side project after I finish this.

I say do the movie project in Black and White first.

I'm tempted, believe me, I'd love to just go to work and pump out a tight 2-3 hour Berserk flick for fun, but I feel like that's going about it the wrong way. I mean, I might as well do all the available footage while I have it ready. Anyway, once that's done, it would just make doing any smaller side-projects easier since all that "raw footage" would already be edited to the standard I'm aiming for, and if anything, I'd get more conservative on what I wouldn't allow.

This is a fantastic project you have here, so many opportunities to get it right. Excellent job so far.

Thank you very much, I hope it doesn't disappoint.

Couple of questions for you. I'm really wondering what you're going to do regarding SK and the original (abrupt) ending of the anime?

Short answer, I don't really know that I should do anything about them. I can't add more to the ending, and there's no point in doing less either except for time. As for Skully, well... we'll see, there are more options now. :SK:

Are you going to be cutting down on Adon and his shenanigans? Please say you are.

Most definitely, this could just as well be called the "Adon Cutout" project. No Adon material will appear that wasn't directly adapted from the manga. :guts:

Indeed this is a nice project you have started, So far what I have seen is very well edited and alot more enjoyable to watch as well. Hope to see more :)

Thanks, more coming soon. :slan:

Have you seen Watchmen: The motion comic?  It's simply the art from the comic, with minor edits and added effects to give it a more cinematic feel.  The main problem with it is there is only one voice actor doing every character, including the women.  Because of this fatal flaw, I couldn't take it seriously at all.  But otherwise it was actually really well done, the music was even really cool.

Sounds like a good execution except for the voice actor thing. I have problems with the idea itself though, like the fact that Watchmen was intended to so specifically take advantage of the comic book medium. Also, if it's the comic read and in "motion," why not just actually read the comic at that point? I don't see the point, it's a no-man's land between the original comic and a true adaption.

Personally, I think that's the only way to go about a project like this. Just cutting up the anime and changing things around doesn't really work, I'd prefer the uncut original anime over this any day.

Well, that's not a project like this really, they're quite different undertakings. Can you at least tell me why you don't think it works as far as the anime specifically? I don't really see why one would prefer non-canon Adon filler or the quasi-molestation of Collete, unless you mean this cut simply doesn't work as far as bringing the manga itself to life, which is certainly true. First and foremost though, this is a project about the anime, making it more true to the manga, not necessarily about the best way for trying to adapt the manga in general or really bring it to life. I don't think that can be done better than the manga does it, personally. Anyway, it's a fine distinction, but this is still an anime project at its foundation, not a manga project.

But we can all agree that the manga is by far superior to the anime, so why not just do something like a motion comic?  Like this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PE22PP4lKw , only with voice acting/music and in sequential order.  Only if someone does it, please God don't do all the voices by yourself.  Even a bunch of amatuers would be better than nothing, and still probably not too far off from the English dubbing in the anime (though I do think the English voice-actors are quite fitting)

That's the thing though, we agree there's nothing wrong with the manga, and so I actually wouldn't mess with it in this fashion at all. That's trampling on sacred ground to me, which is what the anime kind of does in the first place, and why I have no qualms about doing whatever with it. Sort of like, it's already a bastardization, so it doesn't matter what you do to it, and if anything, maybe it can actually be salvaged so that it's at least less blasphemous or a truer adaptation overall. That's where the impetus for this project comes from. If you don't feel that way about it though, this may just not be for you.



Expect parts 1 and 2 of Berserk Recut next weekend, tentatively October 15th, then a schedule of either one a week, or every other week, depending on the release schedule of the current manga episodes.



UPDATE - BERSERK: RECUT parts 1 & 2 going live tomorrow, Friday, October 15th! :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT
Post by: Rus on October 14, 2010, 12:58:43 PM
UPDATE - BERSERK: RECUT parts 1 & 2 going live tomorrow, Friday, October 15th! :griffnotevil:
Can't wait, really excited to see what you've done with the anime  :isidro:
Just a question, in your post you mention about the conversation between the Major and the Snake Baron and about those subtitles being accurate. Will     Berserk: Recut have any subtitles ?? Or do you consider eventually adding some subtitles to it ?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on October 15, 2010, 08:44:56 AM
As promised, BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) parts 1 & 2, which I've also updated the OP with, and will continue to do with each release. You can also find links to each part in my sig.

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)

PART I:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 1
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlsbpYogrY

http://www.youtube.com/v/7zlsbpYogrY



PART II:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 2
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlsbpYogrY

http://www.youtube.com/v/tCc76kkdJQk



Just a question, in your post you mention about the conversation between the Major and the Snake Baron and about those subtitles being accurate. Will     Berserk: Recut have any subtitles ?? Or do you consider eventually adding some subtitles to it ?

At first it's going to be raw and pure (slan), but I'm definitely considering subtitles down the road. I consider it an evolving project, editing all this footage is enough, adding subs is like another project in itself.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rus on October 15, 2010, 09:04:15 AM
Awesome work , i really like it. I actually watched the whole part 1 without understanding a word
I am looking forward to see more of this stuff  :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on October 15, 2010, 09:14:09 AM
Awesome work , i really like it. I actually watched the whole part 1 without understanding a word
I am looking forward to see more of this stuff  :guts:

Thanks for watching, I'm looking forward to posting more. I'll space out releases by at least a week so it's not overwhelming for me or for you guys.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on October 15, 2010, 09:25:39 AM
Thanks for watching, I'm looking forward to posting more. I'll space out releases by at least a week so it's not overwhelming for me or for you guys.

So far so good Griff. I can't wait to see more, keep up the great work.  :casca:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Eluvei on October 15, 2010, 08:48:40 PM
This is what I'm gonna show people in order to introduce them to Berserk.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on October 16, 2010, 05:50:37 PM
This is what I'm gonna show people in order to introduce them to Berserk.

Wow, highest praise, thanks Eluvei. Interestingly enough, and I've mentioned this before, my first direct exposure to Berserk, other than hearing about it, was watching the anime in Japanese with Chinese subtitles. It was certainly a different experience, something I hadn't done before and haven't since with any anime or foreign film (until this project I guess), and it added a lot of surreality to it, like some parts seemed like psychedelic abstract art house stuff, particularly the Eclipse. The closing moments with Guts, Casca, and Femto, the deep reds, olive greens and Beherit playing in what was truly an alien scene living up to Slan's description, which I couldn't know at the time, are etched into my mind, like I was witnessing something first hand rather than watching a story. Pretty affecting experience, and my first permanent memory of Berserk, and so here I am all these years later.



UPDATE:

An interesting example ... in the anime is right before Guts is first promoted in the Hawks (when Rickert knocks him in the water). In the manga, before that happens, he has a lengthy inner monologue about the aim of his life since leaving Gambino, and Griffith's ambition. In the anime, the monologue isn't there, but portions of it appear in an expanded scene of Guts riding into battle, where we also see his flashbacks of Gambino ... it's a quandary: there's technically a scene where Guts rides into battle in the manga, before it flashes forward three years, and that dialogue is technically in the manga as well, just in a different part, so do I leave it in, just in a different spot, or not? It's not that much out of order, but you could argue it drastically changes the significance of both scenes, maybe worse than the anime originally did. ... my motto in difficult cases like this is, "when in doubt, cut it out."

I like your attention to detail, but I wouldn't cut something completely if it's just at a different time than in the manga. It happened, so it has a place. It just might not be possible to cut it to when it should play.

Last night I bit the bullet and finally solved this problem with a little sound editing. I was reticent on the subject before because I didn't want to open up that can of worms for the whole project, but this was a unique situation and I don't really think it's called for elsewhere. Anyway, I'm very pleased with the results and hope you all will be too.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 16, 2010, 07:06:43 PM
Sound editing?  :isidro:

I hope you know what you're getting yourself into Griffith.

As far as the two parts: I just watched them. It's good, even without subtitles. And for the most part it makes sense. Though I can't help but laugh every time I see Guts walking in the rain. And then Bam out of nowhere he shoots some guy in the head with a crossbow. lol  :troll:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on October 29, 2010, 07:25:09 AM
Back with PART TROIS: Guts vs. Griffith II! :guts:

PART III:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 3
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmsv6kFxUh4

http://www.youtube.com/v/wmsv6kFxUh4


Releases should be on a regular weekly schedule from now on, so check back every Friday for the next part! :daiba:



Sound editing?  :isidro:

I hope you know what you're getting yourself into Griffith.

Yeah, I don't want to go through the whole thing again thinking about places I could adjust the sound, music, etc. I already tried too much on the one sound edit I made (just to try pushing it), and went back to the simple one. It works, and it's the one time it was really called for and feasible.  
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Eluvei on October 29, 2010, 05:55:51 PM
Back with PART TROIS: Guts vs. Griffith II! :guts:

Very nice. The only time I noticed a cut is when Guts charges at Griffith at 7:18, but maybe it's originally like that. Guts' theme is playing in the background and it stops way too suddenly. Great job overall, looking forward to the next part.

For what it is, I think this anime looks very good, the sceneries and everything. I hadn't noticed it when I first watched.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on October 29, 2010, 06:34:48 PM
Very nice. The only time I noticed a cut is when Guts charges at Griffith at 7:18, but maybe it's originally like that. Guts' theme is playing in the background and it stops way too suddenly.

Yeah... it wasn't originally like that. :guts:

The part with Guts' theme playing was the end of episode 2 and then the footage without music is where the scene picks up in episode 3, I had to decide whether to try and have it directly transition like that or do a dissolve which would get rid of the abrupt musical ending, but is also kind of weird in the middle of the same scene. So, neither was really perfect, and I went with the former because as abruptly as the music stops, it's at least on cue with the fight starting whereas there's no reason for that dissolve (though it might have been less noticeable to some). Anyway, I thought the audio issue was less wrong than the video one.

For what it is, I think this anime looks very good, the sceneries and everything. I hadn't noticed it when I first watched.

Agreed, I came to appreciate a lot of things about the anime during this project; which, might seem like a referendum on it at first, but also a way to highlight its redemptive features.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Ramen4ever on October 29, 2010, 11:48:38 PM
Very nice. The only thing that stood out to me in part III is what Eluvei already mentioned, the music cut.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on October 30, 2010, 04:57:30 AM
Great work, Griff.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 05, 2010, 09:07:49 AM
PART IV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 4
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzzu7C_5GAE

http://www.youtube.com/v/Mzzu7C_5GAE

Now things are really getting hot! :carcus:


Previously:
Part I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zlsbpYogrY)
Part II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCc76kkdJQk)
Part III (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmsv6kFxUh4)



Very nice. The only thing that stood out to me in part III is what Eluvei already mentioned, the music cut.
Great work, Griff.

Thanks guys, and let me know if you catch any other oddities, I can always fix 'em later if they're egregious enough (especially something that's plain not supposed to be in there like a rogue frame or sound blip).
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: IncantatioN on November 05, 2010, 02:32:29 PM
Spiffy Griffith. I just went from 1 through 4 of your videos.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on November 05, 2010, 03:44:05 PM
This really brings me back. When I first saw this series, something funny jumped out at me. How Griffith would ruin these perfectly sweet moments by saying to Guts, "I OWN YOU. YOU BELONG TO ME."

Which original anime episode are we up to now? You're doing a great job Griffs
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 11, 2010, 06:26:13 PM
I'm ahead of schedule, there's a new episode out, and it's Friday in Japan so what the Hell! :badbone:

PART V:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 5
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od3hh4zIS4M

http://www.youtube.com/v/Od3hh4zIS4M

Next Time: ZODD! :zodd:


Also, this part has the infamous SOUND EDIT at the start, which isn't perfect but got the job done, and enjoy an even better music dropout later.



Spiffy Griffith. I just went from 1 through 4 of your videos.

Thanks IncantatioN, hope you enjoy the rest as well!

This really brings me back. When I first saw this series, something funny jumped out at me. How Griffith would ruin these perfectly sweet moments by saying to Guts, "I OWN YOU. YOU BELONG TO ME."

Haha, he warned him! "You should have known. This is the man I am. You, of all people." :griffnotevil:

Which original anime episode are we up to now? You're doing a great job Griffs

Part IV goes up to... episode 4, coincidentally. Though we already saw most of the second half of episode 4 in parts 1 & 2, and part V span portions of episodes 4, 5, and 6. :void:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Eluvei on November 12, 2010, 01:35:42 AM
"Cool Beans!"

You've surprised me at the end of this one, I was sure it'd end abruptly when they were afraid of Zodd, but it ended up with a nice, fitting cliffhanger. Great edit again.

Unrelated to your work, an only off-putting thing is that some knights' and even the king's cape colors were way too vivid compared to the rest of the anime, but I guess if I start complaining about terrible color choices, I'll go insane. And Gaston's voice is not like I imagined at all; I think he should sound a little more mature and humble. Gaston is my favorite regular dude.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on November 12, 2010, 04:20:46 AM
Man I love watching these recuts. It puts my editing to shame. :farnese: And as Eluvei I like how you ended part V. Now get on with part VI. :azan:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Oburi on November 12, 2010, 04:28:12 AM
Gaston is my favorite regular dude.

Do you include Judo, Pippin etc. as regular dudes as well?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 12, 2010, 08:28:25 AM
"Cool Beans!"

You've surprised me at the end of this one, I was sure it'd end abruptly when they were afraid of Zodd, but it ended up with a nice, fitting cliffhanger. Great edit again.

Thanks, I try to find a natural breaking point or utilize the breaks if I can, and this one just worked out nicely. Wasn't the case with the last one, where I had to stick 20 seconds of Griffith's battle plan on the the end of the previous part so I didn't have to cut off Griffith's big kingdom speech to Guts mid-scene. That would have sucked.

Unrelated to your work, an only off-putting thing is that some knights' and even the king's cape colors were way too vivid compared to the rest of the anime, but I guess if I start complaining about terrible color choices, I'll go insane.

The King's gotta look pimp. As for the rest, black & white, man. PURE!

And Gaston's voice is not like I imagined at all; I think he should sound a little more mature and humble. Gaston is my favorite regular dude.

Well, he certainly sounds humble at the end, but yeah, a little shrill and whiny otherwise.If I had access to my editing computer right now, I could try to fix that for you with a special Gaston edit. Maybe later. :guts:

Man I love watching these recuts. It puts my editing to shame. :farnese: And as Eluvei I like how you ended part V.

Thank you, I don't have a lot of experience so I'm glad it's been effective thus far. What kind editing do you do?

Now get on with part VI. :azan:

Haha, I like the enthusiasm! :ubik:

Do you include Judo, Pippin etc. as regular dudes as well?

I couldn't figure out what the Hell you were trying to ask about editing Judo and Pippin before realizing you were talking to Eluvei about Gaston. :ganishka:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on November 12, 2010, 09:38:11 AM
What kind of editing do you do?

My homework of course.(Making projects.):iva:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 19, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
Okay, now we're getting serious...

PART VI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 6
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO8eDOUVy48

http://www.youtube.com/v/mO8eDOUVy48

KNEEL BEFORE ZODD! :zodd:

Tried a little experimentation and took a few risks with this one (now introducing the abrupt music drop IN =), it was one was one of the most challenging yet. Let me know how it worked all out.

Also, I re-uploaded Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od3hh4zIS4M) because there was a random frame from a cut scene in there. Unfortunately, I found that sometimes they show up and sometimes they don't depending on the output/upload. For example, the first time I fixed it and output it again, a different random frame showed up that wasn't in the previous upload, and I certainly didn't add it in between them. So, some weird give and take there between the source material and my editing software. Let me know if you catch anything like that as well.

But enough about that boring technical stuff, go watch Zodd kick some ass (don't worry, Guts is still a winner in the end)! :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on November 19, 2010, 01:24:52 PM
(don't worry, Guts is still a winner in the end)! :guts:

 :ganishka:

I liked the way it finished  :carcus:


I've been enjoying the project so far, it takes the aspects of the anime that really caught my attention (funny how those turned out to be the most faithful parts to the manga) when I first started my journey in Berserk, and distills it into something more enjoyable. It's easy to watch because there's no dragging moments and filler, and even without any subtitles I've read and watched the series so many times it feels like I can keep up word for word. Keep it up!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rhombaad on November 19, 2010, 05:35:45 PM
I've really been enjoying these and I can't wait to watch part VI this weekend. The flow of the story is much better this time around even if the animation is still awful in places. I hope the new anime has a much higher budget.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Ramen4ever on November 20, 2010, 04:27:15 AM
I finally had time to catch up with the last two releases. Good stuff. The abrupt music edits were noticable.. but it didn't kill the experience in anyway.

If anything, I feel like I should compliment you for a job well done. Especially with Zodd. I haven't seen or read the Golden Age in years. Your recut version was able to make my hairs stand on end when Guts stabbed Zodd and he begins to transform. That look of disbelief and sheer terror was priceless. And I haven't responded to that scene in that way since my first viewing. :)
..Then it was kind of ruined when Zodd's voice actor started with his cough like growling. I hope they do a better job in the new animation.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Eluvei on November 20, 2010, 10:37:20 AM
I've been enjoying the project so far, it takes the aspects of the anime that really caught my attention (funny how those turned out to be the most faithful parts to the manga) when I first started my journey in Berserk, and distills it into something more enjoyable. It's easy to watch because there's no dragging moments and filler, and even without any subtitles I've read and watched the series so many times it feels like I can keep up word for word. Keep it up!

I totally agree with this.

Great episode. :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 22, 2010, 09:25:48 AM
Thanks for all the compliments guys. :guts:

even without any subtitles I've read and watched the series so many times it feels like I can keep up word for word.

Glad to hear it, you're basically the perfect candidate for this project as it stands.

I hope the new anime has a much higher budget.

I'd just hope there really is one! :ganishka:

The abrupt music edits were noticable.. but it didn't kill the experience in anyway.

Thanks, that's reassuring since it was a last second decision to do it that way. I previously had it edited with fade transitions which made it smoother but maybe too much like a highlight reel, and I kind of wanted to see if I could do it straight by editing around the music.

..Then it was kind of ruined when Zodd's voice actor started with his cough like growling. I hope they do a better job in the new animation.

Haha yeah, I thought in the back of my mind that I should dub that over with a lion roar or something. :zodd:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on November 23, 2010, 01:06:21 AM
The abrupt music edits were noticable.. but it didn't kill the experience in anyway. ..Then it was kind of ruined when Zodd's voice actor started with his cough like growling.
Yeah I have to agree with you on both points. I hate that fucking hideous growling noise, it shouldn't even be called a growl, more like coughing up a hairball noise.  :iva: No matter though, I still thoroughly enjoyed the video Griff and the music edits don't bother me one bit.

I liked the way it finished  :carcus:
I laughed at the end. It reminded me of a special song.  :ganishka:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGST0XNAIg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGST0XNAIg)

I demand more Griffith! :mozgus:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rhombaad on November 23, 2010, 02:41:15 AM
As bad as the voice actor for Zodd is, his animators are a thousand times more horrible. Even with the more accurate pace, that was a tough one to watch.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 23, 2010, 05:46:26 AM
Yeah I have to agree with you on both points. I hate that fucking hideous growling noise, it shouldn't even be called a growl, more like coughing up a hairball noise.  :iva: No matter though, I still thoroughly enjoyed the video Griff and the music edits don't bother me one bit.

Thanks again. :guts:

If anyone was bothered by them though, let me know now because I have similar decisions to make going forward.

I laughed at the end. It reminded me of a special song.  :ganishka:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGST0XNAIg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJGST0XNAIg)

I demand more Griffith! :mozgus:

Well, when you show such enthusiasm, video and all, how can I not deliver? :slan:

As bad as the voice actor for Zodd is, his animators are a thousand times more horrible. Even with the more accurate pace, that was a tough one to watch.

Cue moving left animation:

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/nosferatuzodd.jpg)
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rhombaad on November 23, 2010, 01:52:45 PM
Whoa, you even incorporated the "talking" animation! :isidro:

All kidding aside, I can't wait for part 7. :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 26, 2010, 09:47:56 AM

PART VII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 7
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RnO7m7M77M

http://www.youtube.com/v/6RnO7m7M77M

Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Ramen4ever on November 27, 2010, 01:19:19 AM
good stuff as usual Griffith. The part that I noticed to really stick out is when the music faded and the scene jumped from Charlotte going down the stairs, to the three maids talking. what was cut from there? (I can't recall what was there in the old anime)
It might not hurt to go to the commercial break black screen and to fade the music a little slower?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on November 27, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
good stuff as usual Griffith.

Thank you as usual for the feedback and a chance to talk about it.

The part that I noticed to really stick out is when the music faded and the scene jumped from Charlotte going down the stairs, to the three maids talking. what was cut from there? (I can't recall what was there in the old anime)

It originally went straight to the scene of Guts on the rooftop (note his theme playing in both scenes, originally uninterrupted). After that it goes to a made up Adon subplot with him defending a river fort and we don't even see Julius and Foss talking until the end of the NEXT episode (what a waste)! :schierke:

It might not hurt to go to the commercial break black screen and to fade the music a little slower?

Yeah, I see what you mean, but in regards to faithfully representing the manga that's actually one of the edits I have the least reservation about (my biggest concern is actually something I left in earlier). Just compare it to the original:

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/recutcomparison01.jpg)

The only reason I even employed any fading was so the music wouldn't suddenly cutout right after coming in, and I figured at least some visual transition was appropriate considering Guts' expression doesn't punctuate the scene in the same way for a direct cut. Anyway, I think it works alright since the setting was already established and we'd just seen Julius leaving them, like in the original above. If I was going to go back to change something, it would be the part where Griffith asks Guts if he needs a reason to save his life, but again, the music makes it tricky (I feel like I copped out on that one).

Other than that, I'm pretty happy with how closely it follows episodes Sword Master (1) & (2) in the manga now.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on November 28, 2010, 06:18:18 AM
Perhaps, you could combine the fade out with some kind of reverb, maybe doing a hard cut after a certain note, then doing a tiny tiny fade out at the end of the section you cut, THEN, add reverb on the section of the audio that's the last note so it kind of... rings out?

Personally I think this is going great so far, Griffy. Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on December 03, 2010, 09:11:36 PM
Why aren't you complaining about the lack of Part VIII!? :judo:

Kidding aside, sorry for the delay, you can blame Time Warner Cable (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2010/12/03/Time-Warner-Cable-Internet-problems-fixed/UPI-91331291397324/). Anyway, I quite enjoyed editing this one.

PART VIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 8
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrWwJ5xB4P8

http://www.youtube.com/v/FrWwJ5xB4P8

The plot thickens... :griffnotevil:



Perhaps, you could combine the fade out with some kind of reverb, maybe doing a hard cut after a certain note, then doing a tiny tiny fade out at the end of the section you cut, THEN, add reverb on the section of the audio that's the last note so it kind of... rings out?

Sounds good (literally =).
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Ramen4ever on December 03, 2010, 09:20:12 PM
You just had to post this when I'm leaving, damn it!
 :mozgus:



Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on December 03, 2010, 11:06:30 PM
Love both part VII & VIII Griff. You did a great job editing the end of part VIII.

Why aren't you complaining about the lack of Part VIII!? :judo:

I'm complaining about the lack of part XXIV. :femto: If there is going to be a part XXIV? I am not sure if you intend on making the same amount of parts as there are episodes.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Ramen4ever on December 04, 2010, 01:43:29 AM
I finally got back, and first thing I did was watch this.
I couldn't even tell that you cut anything at the end. Till slan69 mentioned that you edited it. I had to go and watch the original anime episode just to see what you cut. Very good job. :guts:

The only scene I noticed that you cut was the Princess looking at Griffith as he's falling back and seeing that bolt sticking out of his armor. I actually kind of like that shot, though not the one of him falling sideways. I guess it's the one I distinctly remember from the anime.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on December 04, 2010, 02:03:33 AM
Love both part VII & VIII Griff. You did a great job editing the end of part VIII.

Thanks, I just wish there had been a more natural stopping point, alas...

I'm complaining about the lack of part XXIV. :femto: If there is going to be a part XXIV? I am not sure if you intend on making the same amount of parts as there are episodes.

No plan, it just depends on how long and divisible by 15 minutes it ends up being.

I finally got back, and first thing I did was watch this.

Now that's a compliment! :serpico:

I couldn't even tell that you cut anything at the end. Till slan69 mentioned that you edited it. I had to go and watch the original anime episode just to see what you cut. Very good job. :guts:

Yeah, this one required surprisingly a lot of cutting, and not the kind anyone should notice. There were times where I was really unhappy with it's condition, but as I kept plugging away it started to smooth out and come together nicely. I think it helped that there wasn't a lot of music to wrestle with in this part.

The only scene I noticed that you cut was the Princess looking at Griffith as he's falling back and seeing that bolt sticking out of his armor. I actually kind of like that shot, though not the one of him falling sideways. I guess it's the one I distinctly remember from the anime.

Ah, now this raises a good point, because I actually like that shot as well, but it's not represented in the manga, where Griffith's shooting is more straightforward (not a bunch of different angles, closeups, or any slow motion obviously). So, that's how I cut it, with the shots that matched best. Situations liked this helped develop my policy on these things, which is that however cool or dynamic a shot is, the point is to be as faithful to the manga as possible, not to have the coolest shots. So if it's not the most faithful shot available, it's got to go, sadly. I'll even tell myself when I'm tempted to keep one, "There's cooler shots in other animes that are even less representative of Berserk, and you're not using those either." Then I don't worry about anymore. =)
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on December 04, 2010, 03:25:18 PM
A great edit that jumped out on me was the leaf tooting scene. It just worked so well. I always thought it was a silly scene and it just got a lot funnier.

Charlotte: Why are men big stupid violent dummies?

Without hesitation, Griffith snaps off a leaf... FWEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on December 10, 2010, 11:32:52 AM
This is one of the oldest edits, and one of my favorites:

PART IX:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 9
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ClrdtNdg0

http://www.youtube.com/v/k_ClrdtNdg0

"I may be a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."



A great edit that jumped out on me was the leaf tooting scene. It just worked so well. I always thought it was a silly scene and it just got a lot funnier.

Charlotte: Why are men big stupid violent dummies?

Without hesitation, Griffith snaps off a leaf... FWEEEEEEEE

Yep, by the time Charlotte finishes her difficult question in the manga Griffith has practically already snapped the branch. :griffnotevil: :ganishka:

Hmmm, for the sake of promotion: SEE GRIFFITH'S RESPONSE IN THIS PART ONLY!!!! OH YEEAAAH, LIFE IS BUT A DREAM!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Eluvei on December 12, 2010, 11:26:19 AM
Great work! These scenes during the night look pretty incredible, even the colors and stuff. My favorite parts of the anime are all in part IX of your edit.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on December 17, 2010, 10:02:18 AM
Back to your regularly scheduled programming, and finally, what you've all been waiting for...

PART X:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 10
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcRHENJxeo

http://www.youtube.com/v/VkcRHENJxeo

"MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!"

HOT ADON ACTION! At least that's what you want according to the producers of the anime, where he practically already had like two episodes devoted to him by this point. Why? Simple: because Adon = Awesome!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on December 17, 2010, 02:08:50 PM
Love it. (Part IX & X) :casca:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: IncantatioN on December 17, 2010, 05:20:15 PM
Haha nice nice. The next episode will raise the temperature on here :farnese:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on December 18, 2010, 09:43:32 AM
For those that have accessed this thread through my sig or something and maybe don't know, Nomad has composed a beautiful original Berserk-inspired composition and allowed me to use it in RECUT! I'm very happy with the results:

http://www.youtube.com/v/YtMLbtUxXIA

If you haven't heard Nomad's "Hill of Swords" score yet, do yourself a favor and take a listen to it in the Hill of Swords Audio Score (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12285.0) thread and show him some appreciation.

Great work! These scenes during the night look pretty incredible, even the colors and stuff. My favorite parts of the anime are all in part IX of your edit.

Well, that's bittersweet, I hope you'll find something else to like during the remainder. :ganishka:

Love it. (Part IX & X)

Thanks as always, slan.

Haha nice nice. The next episode will raise the temperature on here :farnese:

HOT MENSTRUA-ACTION! :???: :schnoz:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Aazealh on December 24, 2010, 12:09:02 PM
Isn't it time for the next part?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on January 03, 2011, 09:22:27 AM
Sorry for the slight delay, something had a mass effect on my sleeping schedule. Thankfully this was the easiest part so far, it's a Skullmas miracle! So, without further ado, the BERSERK: RECUT Holiday Special. Or, just the next part:

PART XI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 11
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o682iijhrCk

http://www.youtube.com/v/o682iijhrCk

Enjoy. :griffnotevil:



The video, thread and my sig were updated on schedule, just didn't bump the thread:

PART XII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 12
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs1qoXofuoA

http://www.youtube.com/v/Rs1qoXofuoA

Next time: 100 Man Battle! :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on January 05, 2011, 09:32:33 AM
As always I enjoyed watching both parts. I was actually going to re-watch the series, but when I read this thread I thought to myself, I might as well watch Griff's instead. (I knew it would be better.) :slan: I actually thought it was funny the way part XII ended. Adon was clearly about to say something really important. :serpico:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Nomad on January 05, 2011, 10:46:57 PM
I personally enjoyed this one the most.  Perhaps it's been a while since I've seen this series, but the fluency in this particular episode shines. 
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Grail on January 06, 2011, 03:24:51 AM
Looking good, Griff! It's been a while since I've seen this part of the anime, but the transitions looked pretty flawless to me. :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on January 07, 2011, 09:13:49 AM
Here we go, I hope this does it justice...

PART XIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 13
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-BRCdwjXXQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/k-BRCdwjXXQ

100 Man Battle! :guts:



As always I enjoyed watching both parts. I was actually going to re-watch the series, but when I read this thread I thought to myself, I might as well watch Griff's instead. (I knew it would be better.) :slan:

Thank you very much, I'm quite enjoying dissecting the anime rather than just watching it. It's also kind of a different experience following along the anime with the manga in hand, which is something I recommend for viewing RECUT, particularly if one can't understand Japanese and isn't familiar with everything being said.

I actually thought it was funny the way part XII ended. Adon was clearly about to say something really important. :serpico:

So you would think! :SK:

I personally enjoyed this one the most.  Perhaps it's been a while since I've seen this series, but the fluency in this particular episode shines.
Looking good, Griff! It's been a while since I've seen this part of the anime, but the transitions looked pretty flawless to me. :guts:

Thanks guys, if you can say that about this one I'll be proud. The previous two put together weren't half as demanding, and this part contains some of the most acrobatic but hopefully seamless editing in my limited experience. So, here's hoping you don't notice! :carcus:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on January 07, 2011, 10:46:29 AM
I was a little behind but I'm all caught up now!

The only thing that really jumps out at me (and don't ask me why) is that in Part X when Griffith finishes his speech about friendship and gives his maniacal grin at the deaths of royalty, in the manga there' a bit devoted to Guts turning away and Casca starting to realize what Guts had done. And I guess my point is, wasn't that also in the anime? And if so, why was that cut out?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on January 14, 2011, 10:31:31 AM

PART XIV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 14
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhpGmHqFu0

http://www.youtube.com/v/SHhpGmHqFu0




The only thing that really jumps out at me (and don't ask me why) is that in Part X when Griffith finishes his speech about friendship and gives his maniacal grin at the deaths of royalty, in the manga there' a bit devoted to Guts turning away and Casca starting to realize what Guts had done. And I guess my point is, wasn't that also in the anime? And if so, why was that cut out?

I wish I knew since it's actually not in the anime. Another perplexing decision by the producers; why get rid of the scene's final payoff from Guts' and Casca's end? There's simply no good reason.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on January 14, 2011, 02:01:12 PM
I gotta say, I really love how the Campfire of Dreams segment played out. Excellent job, Griff.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: C_W on January 19, 2011, 07:19:12 PM
I've been watching your little project, Griffith. It's good for such a fragmented source. Though, I still think it's like trying to put together a jigsaw puzzle that has more than half of its pieces missing.

Are you going to make it public to the rest of Youtube once you finish? Or just to people who find it this way?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on January 28, 2011, 11:53:20 AM
I originally wanted to make these a single double-sized half hour epic featuring the battle of Doldrey in its entirety, but alas, life got in the way. Still, here's parts 15 and 16 together featuring the Hawks' entire attack on Doldrey! Enjoy:

PART XV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 15
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2o9dCkQI_s

http://www.youtube.com/v/h2o9dCkQI_s

"Ba.. Boscone!?"



PART XVI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 16
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31IGJULl91k

http://www.youtube.com/v/31IGJULl91k

Who could this be? A man with a predilection for lurking on cliffs? :zodd:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Aazealh on January 28, 2011, 12:56:12 PM
Who could this be? A man with a predilection for lurking on cliffs? :zodd:

:ubik:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Walter on January 28, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
Good stuff. I think the "Murder" track that plays around 4:30 could be extended to the Adon vs Casca fight, instead of just cutting off. That's really the only critique I had.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on January 29, 2011, 09:06:51 AM
:ubik:

 :slan:

Good stuff. I think the "Murder" track that plays around 4:30 could be extended to the Adon vs Casca fight, instead of just cutting off. That's really the only critique I had.

Yeah, another abrupt musical stop, though without re-dubbing the sound, this was the best I could do. I tried an audio-video cross fade, but somehow that seemed to draw even more attention to it; like fresh Febreze in a bathroom, you can smell the cover up. I'm actually pretty happy with the results overall, Adon breaks the... not silence, and at least you hopefully didn't notice that the Zodd clip also didn't originally follow the footage of Guts and Boscone now seen beforehand. I had to find a way to plop Zodd and his little segment of Murder right in the middle of them.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: IncantatioN on January 29, 2011, 06:28:17 PM
Part 16's epic ... I was like "Nooooooooooooo, he didn't just do that!" (referring to the way Part 15 ended, right before the Guts battle that I was waiting for) and now I'm a happy puppy ^_^. Good stuff Griffith!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Eluvei on February 03, 2011, 05:19:54 PM
Zodd on the cliff gave me the chills. :zodd:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on February 04, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
This part had so much action it couldn't be confined to 15 minutes or less! Well, not really, but it is the first to break the 15 minute barrier, so enjoy this special (finally) extended edition of BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断):


PART XVII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 17
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZSON0RJAd0

http://www.youtube.com/v/lZSON0RJAd0

Guts is exhausted from all the action!




P.S. Updated the sig banner, now with embedded video of the latest parts.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Aazealh on February 11, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
Extended-shortened edition? Better than a Director's Cut. :badbone:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on February 11, 2011, 06:04:47 PM
I had this one done last week and I just plumb forgot to post it earlier this morning. :ganishka:

PART XVIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 18
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlfYJ4FbBI

http://www.youtube.com/v/dQlfYJ4FbBI

Do not fuck with us. :griffnotevil:


Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: IncantatioN on February 12, 2011, 02:48:42 AM
Hah couldn't have said it better. Can't wait for next episode, keeps getting better. G vs G and Casca's feelings ... oh boy.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on February 12, 2011, 09:36:00 PM
The funeral music cutting out was kind of jarring but the last scene was perfect.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on February 16, 2011, 12:26:15 AM
Been a while since I posted in this thread. Anyways I liked part XVIII a lot, one of my favorite parts in the Golden Age Arc is when the Queen died. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on February 18, 2011, 09:40:57 PM
Thanks guys, for everything. Here's the next part, morning of the journey...

PART XIX:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 19
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMFxR8r-f5A

http://www.youtube.com/v/IMFxR8r-f5A

...and there couldn't be a more appropriate point to announce I too am walking away and this will be the last part of Berserk: Recut. Sorry, but I can no longer stand to live inside the dream of the new Berserk animation project (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.0) any longer! Ja ne. :judo:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Aphasia on February 18, 2011, 10:00:35 PM
Great work Griffith.  It's obvious you've put a lot of time into this project.  I haven't had time lately but I'm going to go back through and watch these.  It's been a long time since I've read this section of manga or even watched the anime, so I can't really give you anything in the way of critique, except that it felt like it flowed very well.  This is one of my favorite scenes.  I remember being totally on edge when I was reading it for the first time.  Fucking intense.  :puck: 

Good work!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on February 19, 2011, 12:19:40 AM
...and there couldn't be a more appropriate point to announce I too am walking away and this will be the last part of Berserk: Recut. Sorry, but I can no longer stand to live inside the dream of the new Berserk animation project (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.0) any longer! Ja ne. :judo:

It sure was great of you to do this Griff. I am sure we all appreciate all the time and effort you put into these recuts. I enjoyed watching part XIX by the way. :slan:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: IncantatioN on February 19, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
Goosebumpy end ... I hope your news comes as an early April Fool's Day one because what you're doing is pretty darn good. I'd watch an episode once a week or two, re-watched part 6 the most.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Seņor Caudillo on February 19, 2011, 08:20:12 PM
If this is really the end for Berserk: Recut, then it's a damn shame. Griff has been doing such an amazing job with the series, that after watching the current Recut episode, I'd always looked forward to the next part. And this has been especially so in the past 3 months since Berserk manga having gone off into yet another hiatus, I could at least  come to SK.net every Friday for a new installment of Recut, in the lieu of a new Berserk YA episode.  
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Eluvei on February 19, 2011, 10:25:50 PM
Aww, don't stop now. Well, if your mind is set, I hope you know you've done a great job and this last one was no exception!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rhombaad on February 20, 2011, 10:26:13 PM
I'm sorry to see Berserk: Recut go. I was really enjoying the weekly episodes. Thank you for all your hard work on this project, Griff. :serpico:

Who knows...if the new anime is exceptionally bad we may be seeing Berserk Recut 2: Recut Harder.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on February 21, 2011, 06:50:31 AM
Great work, Griffs. I really enjoyed your project a hell of a lot.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Kagami on February 22, 2011, 03:02:26 PM
Thank you for your hard work. I had all my DVDs stolen from me (Berserk included) so I was happy to watch them again (in a new way).

Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on February 25, 2011, 08:07:40 AM
Thanks for the support everyone, that and Guts return to the Hawks have inspired my return with a new project I hope you'll all show as much love, BERSERK: REBUILT; featuring a scene and character from the manga previously never before seen in the anime, right at the start!

WATCH! :SK:

PART XX:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 20
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFyWJUC3H5U

http://www.youtube.com/v/tFyWJUC3H5U
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Aazealh on February 25, 2011, 08:17:39 AM
BERSERK: REBUILT; featuring a scene and character from the manga previously never before seen in the anime, right at the start!

(http://aazealh.net/Divers/Seal_of_Approval.gif)
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on February 25, 2011, 08:36:57 AM
 :isidro:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on February 25, 2011, 12:41:43 PM
WELL PLAYED, MAN. Holy bajeeberz.

That seriously was great.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Shadow8 on February 25, 2011, 02:02:50 PM
Oh, its back. Thank this is great. I hope the part 21 soon if you motivated  for continu Griffith.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Aazealh on February 25, 2011, 02:25:05 PM
Oh, its back. Thank this is great. I hope the part 21 soon if you motivated  for continu Griffith.

Griff was joking about this; it was a parallel with what happened in the story: Guts leaving the Band of the Falcon. He's not going to stop his project.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rhombaad on February 25, 2011, 02:33:34 PM
Thanks for the support everyone, that and Guts return to the Hawks have inspired my return with a new project I hope you'll all show as much love, BERSERK: REBUILT; featuring a scene and character from the manga previously never before seen in the anime, right at the start!

Well played, sir! I can't wait to watch it when I get home tonight. :badbone:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: TheBranded1 on February 25, 2011, 04:05:42 PM


Great episode Griffith!  :ubik:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 04, 2011, 09:12:27 AM


PART XXI:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 21
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w_TNUtPKmw

http://www.youtube.com/v/_w_TNUtPKmw
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: IncantatioN on March 04, 2011, 03:40:22 PM
Oh wow, I love what you did when Griffith's talking. Was this the toughest episode to put together so far?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 04, 2011, 11:18:07 PM
Oh wow, I love what you did when Griffith's talking. Was this the toughest episode to put together so far?

The hardest episodes were the first and the sixth parts, but I worked on them first, when I was the least experienced. Between the Godot flashback and Griffith's speech in the dark, this was pretty complicated, but I threw them together rather easily compared to reconstructing that Skull Knight scene in the last episode.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on March 05, 2011, 04:15:29 AM
What more can I say Griff, your editing is superb especially for part XX. SK looked a lot more creepy in your recut than he did in the trailer. :ubik:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 18, 2011, 06:10:48 AM
If you appreciate my editing tricks, particularly Griffith's soliloquy in the last episode, keep an eye on the new edit of the other half of that scene, featuring the Hawks descending the stairs of the tower after the Apostle attack on the injured Hawks. Speaking of which, I realized halfway through this one it would have been much easier to stick Skull Knight in at the of that Rickert scene, I even had it earmarked for it with the Skully footage from a previous go around. But, then I wouldn't have had the fun of painstakingly editing together an entirely new scene from scratch! Anyway, wouldn't have been nearly as good, and without closure it would have made it seem like Skull Knight was another Apostle coming to eat poor Rickey! :SK:

PART XXII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 22
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBEA09QUmQE

http://www.youtube.com/v/JBEA09QUmQE



Almost there, and what better way to celebrate than with a potentially controversial artistic choice...

PART XXIII:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 23
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgtZqCxv0s

http://www.youtube.com/v/DqgtZqCxv0s


One more left...
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on March 18, 2011, 06:47:18 AM
I just realized that when the hand pillar rises up, Casca finally pronounces Griffith's name right. She yells GRIFFITH instead of her usual GRIFSSUUU!

Out of curiosity, why was it that you chose to make your controversial artistic choice? Was it due to Femto's stupid red coloring in the anime?
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 18, 2011, 04:04:54 PM
Out of curiosity, why was it that you chose to make your controversial artistic choice? Was it due to Femto's stupid red coloring in the anime?

More like pink. :slan:

And yeah, that's my practical justification, and judging from the covers of volumes 12 and 13, the rest of the coloration is no more accurate either, and I also wanted to differentiate the Eclipse Ceremony from everything else. Also, I just like it and wanted to try it, I feel it makes it closer to the original and less gaudy, I really like the way it made the Eclipse look, particularly in the next part. If I do anything further like this project, don't be surprised if the whole thing is like that.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on March 19, 2011, 12:04:44 AM
I would have been willing to frame-by-frame recolor Femto if that was the only problem. Imagine that.

Then again, it would've taken me quite some time.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on March 19, 2011, 12:09:06 AM
I was a little surprised when everything changed, but I eventually got used to it. It was kind of funny, early in the project when you showed some scenes in black and white I had no problem with it and even thought it looked great. I suppose I just got used to it being in color again.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 19, 2011, 08:44:45 PM
Okay, I can take a hint, and I did change the rules on you guys at the 11th hour, so I'll post a full color version for the faithful.

Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 19, 2011, 09:34:27 PM
Here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUVmdWsYlTM

http://www.youtube.com/v/QUVmdWsYlTM

And thank you for your diplomacy. :guts:

Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on March 20, 2011, 01:00:23 AM
Well now we have the best of both worlds!

But seriously, I did get used to it. It was just jarring to have it sprung in unannounced. At any rate, keep up the good work! Almost there!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Infinte on March 20, 2011, 08:49:55 PM
More like pink. :slan:

I think they wanted to make it crimson :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rhombaad on March 21, 2011, 05:40:39 PM
I really liked the black and white version. Good work, Griff! My girlfriend and I are eagerly awaiting the final part! :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on March 21, 2011, 07:23:18 PM
I really liked the black and white version. Good work, Griff!

Same, I mean either way Slan's still sexy. :slan: You should stick to doing the next part in black and white if that's what you prefer. Can't wait for the finale.  :beast:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 25, 2011, 06:00:01 AM


PART XXIV:

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) 24
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dny-uGXPxVM

http://www.youtube.com/v/dny-uGXPxVM

Spoiler Alert: :judo:


Thank you all.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Gobolatula on March 25, 2011, 06:39:42 AM
Bravo, Griffith. Great job all the way through.

I gotta admit. The grayscale, for some reason, made everything all the more horrifying.

I loved the glimpse of The Idea you threw in, also.

And, holy fuck, did that music piece fit during the end credits. It gave it all so much more weight. Nomad should be happy!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on March 25, 2011, 09:19:04 AM
What a way to finish.

I don't want to basically just echo everything that Gobs said, so I'll elaborate on how I loved the transitions between the greyscale and color; it had a lot of punch to it and felt extremely natural. But I will agree completely that the credit music was a stunning addition that fit tremendously well; the weight and emotion is really captured and when the portraits go by it really forces you to reflect.

Anyway, it's been a long journey, and many kudos to you for sticking to it. Can't believe this was started back in September. Congratulations to you, Griff. I appreciated your hard work, as I'm sure we all did.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Shadow8 on March 25, 2011, 12:51:36 PM
Thank Griffith for all make it. This is just a great work from your. :ubik:



Good, I watch this right now.

Edit: The ending music is really splendid. Your choice is good with Berserk
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Nomad on March 25, 2011, 05:56:19 PM
Solid ending for an awesome project Griff. I personally loved the black and white adaptation to the Eclipse.  Thank you for the hard work and dedication.  This project has been reffreshing and dare I say perfect timing for the things to come.  Gratitude for putting my song also bud. 
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 25, 2011, 05:57:51 PM
Thanks for the kind words fellas! :judo:

I gotta admit. The grayscale, for some reason, made everything all the more horrifying.

It's because your blood is shaking at the sight of the true Wings of Darkness! :femto: Speaking of which, I also made decreased the brightness a bit, which I think helped offset the lack of natural black & white contrast. Anyway, I obviously really like it that way, just look at how good Judo looks in the video thumbnail image.

I loved the glimpse of The Idea you threw in, also.

I :idea: you too. :slan:

And, holy fuck, did that music piece fit during the end credits. It gave it all so much more weight. Nomad should be happy!

I sure hope so, and it fits so well I didn't even take him up on his offer to compose something new for it, my mind was made up.

I don't want to basically just echo everything that Gobs said, so I'll elaborate on how I loved the transitions between the greyscale and color; it had a lot of punch to it and felt extremely natural.

Yeah, I thought it was logical, and something for the color enthusiasts. =)

But I will agree completely that the credit music was a stunning addition that fit tremendously well; the weight and emotion is really captured and when the portraits go by it really forces you to reflect.

I'm glad, it definitely fits better than adult contemporary rock. :ganishka:

Anyway, it's been a long journey, and many kudos to you for sticking to it. Can't believe this was started back in September. Congratulations to you, Griff. I appreciated your hard work, as I'm sure we all did.

Thanks, this thing was actually started years ago, and the idea was kicking around in my head for years before that, all the way back to the early/mid 00's. And hey, who says the journey is over yet? They're may be a surprise or two yet. :badbone:

Edit: The ending music is really splendid. Your choice is good with Berserk

All credit and special thanks to Nomad for his score, Hill of Swords (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12285.0).

Solid ending for an awesome project Griff. I personally loved the black and white adaptation to the Eclipse.  Thank you for the hard work and dedication.  This project has been reffreshing and dare I say perfect timing for the things to come.  Gratitude for putting my song also bud.  

No problem, thanks for letting me use it!
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Seņor Caudillo on March 25, 2011, 10:23:05 PM
Bravo  :ubik:
Such an excellent conclusion to the series, that my only complaint is that the Idea of Evil's appearance was way too brief. It should've been on screen for at least 1-2 seconds instead of flash of a moment.
Since Recut is over and complete, the only thing that is left to do now is wait just two more weeks til 319.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Rhombaad on March 26, 2011, 01:20:17 AM
A great end to a great project. Very well done, Griffith! :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on March 26, 2011, 11:05:32 PM
Thanks for all your hard work Griff, I enjoyed watching each part. The black and white worked nicely for part 24 and Nomads music fit very well with the credits. I also have to mention that I liked the glimpse of the Idea of Evil, that was a nice touch to part 24. Who knows, you could be in for another recut if you know what I mean. :iva:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on March 28, 2011, 12:09:40 AM
Thanks guys!

my only complaint is that the Idea of Evil's appearance was way too brief. It should've been on screen for at least 1-2 seconds instead of flash of a moment.

I considered it, but that would have cut into the Beherits/eye time, plus the flash of the manga image worked nicely right off the bat, and I doubt it would have for an extended period without looking out of place.

Who knows, you could be in for another recut if you know what I mean. :iva:

I don't, but thanks. :guts:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Scorpio on March 28, 2011, 03:21:13 AM
Who knows, you could be in for another recut if you know what I mean. :iva:

Let's just hope the upcoming animation projects are a bit more faithful...
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Griffith on April 01, 2011, 02:58:12 PM
I told you it wasn't over, I've scrapped the whole project and reduced Berserk to it's core: KILLING ONLY!

BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断) Ultimate Blood + Guts Kills Edition
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PtR_iP3y4k

http://www.youtube.com/v/_PtR_iP3y4k

So... beautiful...  :judo:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: IncantatioN on April 01, 2011, 03:12:17 PM
So much bloody goodness ^_~
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Walter on April 03, 2011, 01:26:04 AM
Man, this is just fantastic! With Murder pumping in the background, it just makes this all the more awesome. I love it =)

It also works great just as background music+sfx.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Turkitage on April 03, 2011, 04:38:19 PM
I really liked the ultimate blood edition. It was very nice and clean editing wise.
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on April 03, 2011, 05:47:17 PM
The Ultimate Blood edition can be compared to the greatest works of art of all time. The combination of the song Murder, with Guts killing man after man, is philosophical greatness.

Griffith left us too soon.  :judo:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: slan69 on April 05, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
I don't, but thanks. :guts:

I meant if the new anime doesn't live up to the manga. :iva: Love the new video, nice choice for the music to. Guts slices through these guys like butter. :serpico:
Title: Re: BERSERK: RECUT (ベルセルク:再切断)
Post by: Diaz on April 09, 2011, 02:00:17 AM
awesome video.   :ubik: