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Title: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Nomad on November 25, 2010, 03:47:34 PM
After telling Aaz years and years I wanted to make some kind of score related to Berserk.  I guess I finally did it.  This track is nothing innovative, and it's as predictable as a Stallone flick. But I think it fits the profile.  Keep in mind that this is my first finished composition.  And my single processor computer has a thing for screwing up the rendering.  Anywho, I really hope you guys enjoy this.  Nice and short.

http://aazealh.net/Divers/Nomad_HillofSwords.mp3
(http://b.imagehost.org/0593/250px-Hill_of_Swords_jpg.jpg) (http://aazealh.net/Divers/Nomad_HillofSwords.mp3)
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Eluvei on November 25, 2010, 04:12:49 PM
I think it's wonderful. Congrats.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Rus on November 25, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
I really like it, i think it fits well with our Manga. Excellent work, have you ever considered doing something more intense like music for a Guts vs Zodd fight i would really like to see the outcome. Keep up with the good work.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Nomad on November 25, 2010, 04:27:42 PM
Thank you all for the kind feedback. 

I really like it, i think it fits well with our Manga. Excellent work, have you ever considered doing something more intense like music for a Guts vs Zodd fight i would really like to see the outcome. Keep up with the good work.
To tell you the truth, I have already started on another track.  The problem with Berserk is that it's VERY hard to stream off from Hirasawa.  Frankly, I'd like to give both Zodd and Skullknight their own little theme... But we'll see.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Rus on November 25, 2010, 04:30:52 PM
To tell you the truth, I have already started on another track.  The problem with Berserk is that it's VERY hard to stream off from Hirasawa.  Frankly, I'd like to give both Zodd and Skullknight their own little theme... But we'll see.


Hey maybe we got ourselves the Berserk:Recut OST  :ubik:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Aazealh on November 25, 2010, 06:06:03 PM
After telling Aaz years and years I wanted to make some kind of score related to Berserk.  I guess I finally did it.  This track is nothing innovative, and it's as predictable as a Stallone flick. But I think it fits the profile.

Was worth the wait man. You ought to make more. :guts:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Ramen4ever on November 25, 2010, 06:11:44 PM
I'm listening to it now, so I'll be adding things I notice as I go.

I'm not sure I like the way you have it echo at the beginning after each phrase. At least not as much as it is right now. The dynamics are also a bit funky at the beginning. It's strange to hear an accent at the end of a phrase. Especially at the beginning of a song.
I really like it when that acoustic ..what is that lute? comes in. It really starts to take off after that. To the point were all I can really say is that I'm loving it, epic yet calming. Majestic, is probably the best word. I wanna reinstall Oblivion after listening to this, and throw this song as the no.1 track for exploration/town.

The only final thing that stood out to me as perhaps unnecessary is the rain sfx at the very end. It works in some Zelda remixes for song of storms/Windmill theme. But in a track like this, I think it's out of place. It comes out of nowhere and only at the end. I'm curious why you used the sfx there?

Very good work overall, Nomad. :guts: Do you work in a music related field professionally?
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Nomad on November 25, 2010, 07:25:43 PM
I'm listening to it now, so I'll be adding things I notice as I go.

I'm not sure I like the way you have it echo at the beginning after each phrase. At least not as much as it is right now. The dynamics are also a bit funky at the beginning. It's strange to hear an accent at the end of a phrase. Especially at the beginning of a song.

The echo was both intentional and NOT intentional. I only have one music software, and that's Garage Band. It's a dinky version of its kind. So the sound bank is limited, and so are the channels. Therefore I filter the sounds (violin for example) and tweek it to have a sort of "distant" sound to it. Giving it a more realistic feel rather than a midi-like. That said, it did seem right given that Hirasawa is notorious for his reverbs... I guess it just gave it the Berserk feel.  

I'm glad you like it, and I welcome any critisism to it. The rain FX I added wanted to give it the "exterior" feel to it. However, I admit I just added it and didn't give special attention. It would have a better result if I handled the volume level. I don't do this professionally, I'd love to... But I don't even read music lol. I play by ear alone. But hey... Who knows?!  
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: slan69 on November 25, 2010, 07:32:37 PM
I play by ear alone.

I like it a lot. My favorite part comes in at 2:31. Considering you did this on garage band I say that this is great. I hate garage band, I never was good with it. I play by ear as well, especially when it comes to the piano. It definitely helps. :iva: I enjoyed listening to it while looking at the latest episode. Thanks Nomad. :casca:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Aazealh on November 25, 2010, 08:04:48 PM
I'm glad you like it, and I welcome any critisism to it. The rain FX I added wanted to give it the "exterior" feel to it.

I have nothing against the raining sound myself, but allow me to point out that it couldn't possible rain on the Hill of Swords. Check the picture you posted to find out why. :slan:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Griffith on November 25, 2010, 08:06:37 PM
Great work Nomad, fits multiple scenes and moods from the hill of swords, and you could have told me this was off the official PS2 soundtrack and I would have believed it. Besides that, I just like it.

MOAR! :beast:

Hey maybe we got ourselves the Berserk:Recut OST  :ubik:

Don't think I didn't immediately consider it. :ganishka:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Nomad on November 25, 2010, 08:20:14 PM
but allow me to point out that it couldn't possible rain on the Hill of Swords. Check the picture you posted to find out why. :slan:
You hear that Aaz? That's the sound of the illusion being shattered by technicality... Who knows! Perhaps El Niņo made its presence to Midland? :troll:

Great work Nomad, fits multiple scenes and moods from the hill of swords, and you could have told me this was off the official PS2 soundtrack and I would have believed it. Besides that, I just like it.

MOAR! :beast:

Don't think I didn't immediately consider it. :ganishka:

Thanks dude. And by all means use it if you see fit! I'd be honored.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Aazealh on November 25, 2010, 08:26:02 PM
You hear that Aaz? That's the sound of the illusion being shattered by technicality... Who knows! Perhaps El Niņo made its presence to Midland? :troll:

...:femto:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Aphasia on November 26, 2010, 07:12:30 AM
Pretty Raw dude.  I enjoyed it alot.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Walter on December 14, 2010, 06:27:49 PM
I should have replied earlier about this but ... to draw from a conversation me and Aaz had back in November:

Walter: "Hill_Of_Swords.mp3 = my main ringtone."

'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Nomad on December 14, 2010, 11:23:17 PM
I should have replied earlier about this but ... to draw from a conversation me and Aaz had back in November:

Walter: "Hill_Of_Swords.mp3 = my main ringtone."

'Nuff said.
:casca:. I'm gathering info and perspectives for the next project.  Mind if I include you in the great circle of... Stuff?
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Video Score
Post by: Griffith on December 16, 2010, 06:53:56 PM
Put this together last night inspired by your excellent score, Nomad:

http://www.youtube.com/v/WWH_DjrmqfQ

I tried to really showcase it as a score in the first half, while the second half is more like a regular music video. Since there's no footage of the hill of swords, I wanted to tell a coherent story that focused on the themes and allusions relevant to it: death, departure, downfall, snow, and of course the Hawks. This scene was basically tailor made for all that. Guts even recalls it after his encounter with Griffith on the Hill of Swords, directly comparing the two. Anyway, it's my first attempt at something like this, I hope you like it, and thanks again, Nomad!
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: puella on December 16, 2010, 08:41:23 PM
Nomad's score and Griffith's footage match so well. I envy you guys' talent.  :ubik:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Aphasia on December 16, 2010, 10:28:03 PM
That was way too cool for it's own good.  Great work on the editing, Griffith.  Is there a reason you didn't show their swords clash? 

At first I thought it was kind of weird that you omitted it, because it's kind of the climax.  Unless I'm remembering wrong, there's footage of the sword actually breaking.  You just showed it falling into the snow after some reaction shots.  But upon re-watching it it kind of works.  I like how seamless it was.  You still have enough information on screen to know his sword broke.  (someone who has no knowledge of the scene might react differently)

Just curious your thought process. 
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Eluvei on December 17, 2010, 12:23:42 AM
Great video, really captured the mood of the song; I'm particularly fond of the first half, with just the snow falling on the beautiful scenery. So moody. Nice touch with the rain in the end too, it fits perfectly. Nomad should really make more songs... :ubik:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Ramen4ever on December 17, 2010, 12:38:28 AM
But upon re-watching it it kind of works.

I think it more than just "kind of" works.

Griffith did a very good job with the music video. Even on first viewing, the timing and scene selections are evident. They match up. I especially like the sunrise. Personally I think the video works better like this, without showing the sword swing and break. After all, sometimes showing less says more. Emphasis isn't on how he broke his sword, but how Guts broke Griffith by leaving.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Turkitage on December 17, 2010, 01:43:03 AM
ugh... think I just cried  :judo:. this is beautiful. video and music. freakin nice work nomad and griffith.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Rhombaad on December 17, 2010, 01:52:25 AM
1. What a beautiful piece of music, Nomad. I can't wait to hear your next Berserk composition.

2. The scenes you picked for your video fit the music perfectly, Griffith. The first half with the snow falling was incredible.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Aphasia on December 17, 2010, 02:44:49 AM
I think it more than just "kind of" works.

Griffith did a very good job with the music video. Even on first viewing, the timing and scene selections are evident. They match up. I especially like the sunrise. Personally I think the video works better like this, without showing the sword swing and break. After all, sometimes showing less says more. Emphasis isn't on how he broke his sword, but how Guts broke Griffith by leaving.


I would say so.  I always enjoy Berserk AMV's that focus on the relationships more than "Insert rock music and endless clips of Guts slaying demons" This is just such a departure from the norm.  Subtlety can speak volumes.  Well said.  The first half of the video leads into the second half perfectly, IMO.  The scenes of the snow falling are beautiful. 

Would love to see more collaborations of this nature in the future. 
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Video Score
Post by: Nomad on December 17, 2010, 03:22:28 AM
Put this together last night inspired by your excellent score, Nomad:

http://www.youtube.com/v/WWH_DjrmqfQ[/flash][/center]

I tried to really showcase it as a score in the first half, while the second half is more like a regular music video. Since there's no footage of the hill of swords, I wanted to tell a coherent story that focused on the themes and allusions relevant to it: death, departure, downfall, snow, and of course the Hawks. This scene was basically tailor made for all that. Guts even recalls it after his encounter with Griffith on the Hill of Swords, directly comparing the two. Anyway, it's my first attempt at something like this, I hope you like it, and thanks again, Nomad!

 :isidro:  Wow... Grifith, I'm seriously speechless.  No greater gift than this, and safe to say you made my Bday....I mean it.  I wouldn't even thought of any of this, you my friend have used every session flawlessly.  Loved the coherent storytelling factor you used.  I can't see it being done any better.  Thank you, thank you... THANK you. 

And thak you all for the compliments.  I'm already setting up project number 2.  Though I admit, this one will be more single themed dedicated rather than Hill of Swords is more open.  Oooh and Griff, AIM me if you want to set out future projects. I see potential baby!  :badbone:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Walter on December 17, 2010, 04:51:26 AM
Wow, great stuff Griff. At first I lamented that the video doesn't feature the setting of the title. But the foreknowledge that this is about the Hill of Swords, a dedication to the dead Falcons, just layers the emotion for this segment in the series, which is Guts basically saying goodbye to that portion of his life. The crescendo in the music also ties in well with the video.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Aazealh on December 17, 2010, 07:53:16 AM
Wow, great stuff Griff. At first I lamented that the video doesn't feature the setting of the title. But the foreknowledge that this is about the Hill of Swords, a dedication to the dead Falcons, just layers the emotion for this segment in the series, which is Guts basically saying goodbye to that portion of his life. The crescendo in the music also ties in well with the video.

Let's just say that it does the job more than competently in the absence of animated material showing the Hill of Swords.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Griffith on December 17, 2010, 09:58:05 AM
:isidro:  Wow... Grifith, I'm seriously speechless.  No greater gift than this, and safe to say you made my Bday....I mean it.  I wouldn't even thought of any of this, you my friend have used every session flawlessly.  Loved the coherent storytelling factor you used.  I can't see it being done any better.  Thank you, thank you... THANK you.  

And thak you all for the compliments.  I'm already setting up project number 2.  Though I admit, this one will be more single themed dedicated rather than Hill of Swords is more open.  Oooh and Griff, AIM me if you want to set out future projects. I see potential baby!  :badbone:

Thanks so much Nomad, you're too kind. It was my honor, and your approval is obviously the most gratifying since it's your work I was trying to do justice.

And thanks all, I'm glad everyone seems to like it, especially Nomad (whew =). As for why I didn't actually show the duel itself, as has already been said, in general I was trying not to emphasis physical action in favor of the "emotional action" at hand, so this stayed true to that principle while also giving me more room to focus on the aftermath (time/space was another major factor). Though, it kind of worked out in a strange way. The time of the duel stands out as the most action packed moment from an editing standpoint, as it quickly flashes between Griffith, Guts, and the shocked reaction of the Hawks, all in a couple seconds, before dramatically revealing the result. Anyway, it was a different way of doing it, and I like how it turned out.

Finally, I'm also taking Nomad up on his generous offer to use his versatile score in BERSERK: RECUT (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12099.0), check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/v/YtMLbtUxXIA

I've been waiting so long for appropriate credit music! :guts:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Nomad on December 17, 2010, 10:17:45 AM
And thanks all, I'm glad everyone seems to like it, especially Nomad (whew =). As for why I didn't actually show the duel itself, as has already been said, in general I was trying not to emphasis physical action in favor of the "emotional action" at hand, so this stayed true to that principle while also giving me more room to focus on the aftermath (time/space was another major factor). Though, it kind of worked out in a strange way. The time of the duel stands out as the most action packed moment from an editing standpoint, as it quickly flashes between Griffith, Guts, and the shocked reaction of the Hawks, all in a couple seconds, before dramatically revealing the result. Anyway, it was a different way of doing it, and I like how it turned out.

Agreed.  For those who haven't read the whole thread... That track wasn't intended to be added on Griffith's project.  Therefor, like he said the timing was short on the content basis.  Following the story pattern from the series and fitting it to the mood and different sessions of the song was Griffith's challenge.  Or so I imagine.  Hence why I believe he did a flawless job.  Lack of material, a song that wasn't meant to that purpose and successfully placing the scenes as they happened... I really give this man props.  Not to mention doing a good job in staging the key moments to the song.

And Griff, I'll see if I can add more material for you to use if you wish.  The credits can be something easy for me to make.  Sooo, I'll send them as I make it, and use to your own liking.  
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: slan69 on December 17, 2010, 02:07:33 PM
One word sums up Griff's editing, and Nomad's track, beautiful. :ubik:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Griffith on December 18, 2010, 09:19:06 AM
Agreed.  For those who haven't read the whole thread... That track wasn't intended to be added on Griffith's project.  Therefor, like he said the timing was short on the content basis.  Following the story pattern from the series and fitting it to the mood and different sessions of the song was Griffith's challenge.  Or so I imagine.  Hence why I believe he did a flawless job.  Lack of material, a song that wasn't meant to that purpose and successfully placing the scenes as they happened... I really give this man props.  Not to mention doing a good job in staging the key moments to the song.

And Griff, I'll see if I can add more material for you to use if you wish.  The credits can be something easy for me to make.  Sooo, I'll send them as I make it, and use to your own liking.

Thanks again man, too kind, and I'll listen to anything you got. I'm already looking forward to your next big project. :SK:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Gobolatula on December 24, 2010, 05:40:50 PM
Keep this up. Nomad, I've listened to this over and over again. The video was the icing on the cake. Fantastic and inspiring.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Nxa on September 27, 2012, 06:47:25 PM
To add something that hasn't been already said:
Not only does this song amaze me by the fact that it's sprung from Garage Band - I have always had a chunk of prejudice towards it - This song makes me not care how it was made. The music's just beautiful, and Nomad had the eye for the arrangement.

Well...yes, that's all. Amazing score.  :isidro: Craving for more, plz :3
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: Surakemastura on October 01, 2012, 05:32:51 PM
I've had this on loop for the past hour.
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Video Score
Post by: Walter on November 08, 2014, 03:05:05 AM
Put this together last night inspired by your excellent score, Nomad:

http://www.youtube.com/v/WWH_DjrmqfQ

I tried to really showcase it as a score in the first half, while the second half is more like a regular music video. Since there's no footage of the hill of swords, I wanted to tell a coherent story that focused on the themes and allusions relevant to it: death, departure, downfall, snow, and of course the Hawks. This scene was basically tailor made for all that. Guts even recalls it after his encounter with Griffith on the Hill of Swords, directly comparing the two. Anyway, it's my first attempt at something like this, I hope you like it, and thanks again, Nomad!

Dived back into this after not seeing it in a few years. Newer members should really check this out. Nomad scored it, and Griffith cut this video together from the anime, masterfully telling this turning point in the series wordlessly (almost!). The way the visuals match the music's peaks and valleys is really moving.

Where's the sophomore effort, you two...?  :daiba:
Title: Re: Hill of Swords Audio Score
Post by: The-M on November 21, 2014, 03:37:12 AM
Great!