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Title: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on July 20, 2011, 12:26:14 AM
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The Berserk Saga is an animation project from STUDIO4℃ with plans to span the entire series, beginning in February 2012 with the first of three theatrical releases set in the Golden Age arc of the series. No further information is available about how future releases will be handled. This thread is where news will be gathered about the Berserk Saga Project so you can peruse the history of everything we know about it in one convenient thread.

In August 2009, the following pictures surfaced on the Internet:

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One year later, we got word that a new anime project was being launched:

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-09-27/new-berserk-anime-project-launching.

The wraparound jacket band on the 35th volume of Kentarou Miura's Berserk fantasy manga is announcing this month that a new anime project is launching.

More information will be provided in Hakusensha's Young Animal magazine and the affiliated Young Animal Web site.

Anyway, a series of four TV commercials have also been announced (http://natalie.mu/comic/news/38251) with Gackt as the salesman (well, he's doing the narration). The "Berserk Official Corner" is getting a revamp as well (should happen in about 9 hours), and it looks like they've opened an official Twitter account for the series. The TV commercials will be available on the website along with a special one made only for the web.

... here's the Twitter account for those interested: http://twitter.com/berserk_project (http://twitter.com/berserk_project)

... early reports on the first commercial that aired today on NTV were that it is an animated project for television (so, not OVA and not 3D/CG), being produced by STUDIO4℃, who generally does OVA type productions, but have also done some TV (see their full works here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_4%C2%B0C). In the west theyre known for doing things like the Animatrix shorts, and Halo Legends. They also recently did an OVA for Detroit Metal City, another Young Animal series.

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CM1 released September 28, 2010
CM1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihPs4BoDvo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lihPs4BoDvo)

Just checked http://www.younganimal.com to find this:

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Clicking it links to the official corner, where there's no new information. Just more fuel for the anime fire... If anything though, it just confirms that THIS IS the anime, folks! :troll:

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CM2 released September 30, 2010
CM2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4m9sDeor3o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4m9sDeor3o)

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CM3 released October 1, 2010
CM3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWibBuWvZbA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWibBuWvZbA)

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CM4 released October 2, 2010
CM4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAqSkxKAKFM)

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CM5 released October 4, 2010
CM5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7fn_SMH284 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7fn_SMH284)



The flurry of news ceased in October, and didn't start back until January 2011.



Quote from:  http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-05/berserk-project-to-be-theatrical-film
The February issue of Kadokawa Shoten's Newtype magazine is announcing on Saturday that the previously revealed Berserk project will begin with a theatrical film that will open in 2011. According to Newtype, the 2011 film will be the first part of a project that will adapt the entire story from Kentarou Miura's manga.

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"The theatrical release is targeted for mid 2011! ! This is the official announcement!"

Some English tweets this time for the English fans.

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Asahi Shimbun article regarding Berserk Saga published January 22, 2011:

http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201101210303.html
An animated feature film based on the dark fantasy epic manga "Berserk" is destined to hit theaters this year, publisher Hakusensha Inc. said this month.

The much-anticipated feature film will be the first part of the "Berserk: Saga Project," in which all episodes of the original comic will be adapted as anime.

"Berserk," manga artist Kentarou Miura's best known work, has been running in Hakusensha's biweekly Young Animal comic magazine for more than 20 years.

The series, set in a war-torn medieval world, is hailed as a masterpiece of dark fantasy. The story follows Guts, a sword warrior who carries a huge blade as he sets out on a journey of revenge.

The original manga is now in its 35th volume, with a combined total of 30 million copies in print.

The manga has been recognized for its excellence, winning the outstanding award at the sixth installment of Tezuka Osamu Cultural Prize in 2002.

It also enjoys immense popularity outside Japan. The manga has been translated and published in 15 countries, especially in Germany, France and other parts of Europe.

"Berserk" was adapted into an animated TV series in 1997. But that series only covered 25 episodes, giving just a glimpse into the epic. In the more than 10 years since, the manga has grown to an even wider scale.

The Berserk Saga Project aims to include all the original episodes of the spectacular series.

See (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/).

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Berserk Saga featured in February 2011 issue of NewType magazine.
Indeed, it doesn't say anything new. It's basically just promotional material.

Something more or less interesting: the producer says he chose to make Berserk because it's about young people and the main hero, Guts, doesn't surrender to his fate. While the era depicted is very harsh, he has the power to break through the common hardships of his time (implying a parallel with Japan nowadays?). Other than that, they say about how Japanese swords are different from Western ones so they put a lot of effort into depicting the swords faithfully, the armors are well detailed, etc.



Five months later, new material surfaces in July:



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January 2012! Studio 4c! That's what I can get outta this! :guts:

Berserk Movie official website:
http://www.berserkfilm.com/
Start: 15 July

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Berserk_project is controlled by Young Animal and used for more than just giving news about the film. Clara_de_Porras is likely used by the "Berserk Film Partners" (those interest me more than Warner Bros, by the way) and appears to be some sort of roleplay account to tease the launch of the movie. By the way, there seems to be the title of the first movie at the bottom of the website: Berserk - Golden Age I - The Egg of the Supreme King, along with the mention of a "road show" (meaning a nationwide release apparently).

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Berserk Saga featured in Young Animal published July 8, 2011
IMAGES AHOY!

IncantatioN was nice enough to take and share some shots from the anime news section of YA.
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Quote from: Quote from: Miura Kentarou, in YA#14 (Translated by puella)
I never imagined I'd receive such a great blessing again: to have the manga animated. The previous animation of Berserk served as a momentum to make it known to people.

It's been 14 years since the first one. I think this animation will be done, as a movie, well enough to gain the sympathy of many people as well as that of the fans.

14 years ago, my skill wasn't good enough so I fully concentrated myself on the serialization (I was really absorbed!). Besides, back then, we didn't have Amazon and not many people had Internet in our country. A debutant mangaka had almost no means to get data about armors or European Middle-Ages history. So I used a pamphlet of the movie "Excalibur" until it was ragged.

Time has passed and now we live in the Information Age, not to mention we have CG technology! I'm sure that we'll see images beyond the expectations that I had at the time. And, I had a chance to visit STUDIO 4°C, known for its craftsmanship and to first meet the director Kubooka and then the other staff. Seeing their over-passioned tenacity about the project (they're out of their minds <3), I can trust them deeply, and I can't do anything but wish that nobody dies of overwork.

http://natalie.mu/comic/news/52893

Portrait of Clara de Porras and the last paragraph mentions the Golden Age arc will be animated into three films.

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First full trailer released July 14, 2011 on Yahoo! Japan]

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www.berserkfilm.com officially launches on July 15, 2011 along with a 720p HD trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKkcY6Sfz5I
http://www.youtube.com/v/jKkcY6Sfz5I

August 15, a new contest for fans began.
More info from Clara de Porras about their little twitter game:

If you join the Band of the Falcon, after the August 15 you'll have access to a page called "My Page" on the official site. The contest will start on that precise day, even though "My Page" might not be available right away. People who join before August 14 will get 200 pts right away. Those who do after the 15th will only get 100 pts. Casca got her title as a leader of 1000 soldiers by fighting. But you can get it by collecting points. If you get a higher position, there are many offers to get (digital privileges, special images, invitations to events) in addition to the final goal of being credited in the movie.




August 24, the Project's Staff was announced, including the Voice Acting Cast:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-08-24/2011-berserk-film-trilogy-main-cast-staff-listed
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Guts: Hiroaki Iwanaga (Tomica Hero Rescue Force, Moyashimon, Kamen Rider OOO)
Griffith: Takahiro Sakurai (Toriko, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Boku-tachi wa Mada Shiranai.)
Casca: Toa Yukinari (Grey's Anatomy dubbing, Naruto Shippūden)

Staff:
Director: Toshiyuki Kubooka (Batman: Gotham Knight episode 5)
Screenplay: Ichiro Okouchi (Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion)
Character Design/Chief Animation Director: Naoyuki Onda (Gantz)
Animation Director: Satoshi Iwataki (Toaru Majutsu no Index)
Art Director: Yusuke Takeda (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex), Goki Nakamura (Cat Soup), others
Art Setting: Mitsuhiro Arita (Final Fantasy XI), others
World Setting Supervisor: Kenichi Iwao (Final Fantasy XI/XIV)
Western Swordsmanship Coach: Jay Noyes (Final Fantasy XII)

September 15, word leaks that Susumu Hirasawa will be providing theme music for the film:

According to this website (http://www.otakei.otakuma.net/archives/5995596.html), Susumu Hirasawa would be doing the movie's theme song! If true that should make a few people happy. :slan:

September 22, two new CMs are released on the official project site:

THEY ARE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Kiss"
This one is pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF2GaxlyNvk

"Special"
THIS ONE ROCKS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POaFuuuwgV4

November 1, the second trailer is released

http://www.youtube.com/v/WF3OP3f2I10

November 3, movie poster unveiled

(http://natalie.mu/media/comic/1111/extra/news_large_brsrk_poster.jpg)

March 8, Blu-Ray/DVD Date Announced
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-03-07/1st-berserk-film-bd/dvd-slated-for-may-23

The Japanese Blu-Ray and DVD release of the first Berserk movie will be on May 23.

October 9, New Saga Trailer Released
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ft-7KSPzHU
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on July 20, 2011, 12:31:25 AM
Nice to have it all in one place. :SK:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Draculoid on July 20, 2011, 12:49:53 AM
Haha wow, starting from the beginning that was quite an epic post !  :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on July 20, 2011, 12:59:18 AM
Nice Post Walter! It's nice seeing it all nicely put together in chronological order. :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on July 20, 2011, 03:38:06 AM
Yay! Thanks Walter! Kinda feel nostalgic already looking at these pictures.  :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on July 20, 2011, 04:31:42 AM
Good topic idea and great post Walter! Definitely a good read.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: MrSmit on July 20, 2011, 04:01:52 PM
You may want to change the news banner that currently says "A NEW BERSERK ANIME PROJECT IS LAUNCHING." You could change the link to direct to this thread rather than that other, monster thread.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on July 20, 2011, 05:36:55 PM
You may want to change the news banner that currently says "A NEW BERSERK ANIME PROJECT IS LAUNCHING." You could change the link to direct to this thread rather than that other, monster thread.

Done, thanks for pointing it out!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on July 22, 2011, 05:09:13 PM
Yay! Thanks Walter! Kinda feel nostalgic already looking at these pictures.  :judo:

Yes. THANKS WALLY!  I feel nostalgic too.  Was a great read!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Draculoid on July 26, 2011, 10:13:32 PM
Just started playing Catherine about 5 minutes ago and see in the credits that 4C does the animation for the anime scenes! I'm enjoying them quite a bit but then again....not much CG :P
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Emp_Gaiseric on August 01, 2011, 08:06:21 PM
I'm sorry if this has been addressed somewhere else and I missed it, but has there been any indication of how widespread the theatrical release is going to be and if it will be subbed or dubbed outside of Japan?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 01, 2011, 08:17:25 PM
I'm sorry if this has been addressed somewhere else and I missed it, but has there been any indication of how widespread the theatrical release is going to be and if it will be subbed or dubbed outside of Japan?

No word on a release outside of Japan so far.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 01, 2011, 08:23:50 PM
I'm sorry if this has been addressed somewhere else and I missed it...
For future reference, if it's not in this thread, then we don't know it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: mevoo on August 07, 2011, 04:44:31 AM
I hope to be the same musical soundtrack of the old and the anime is the best OST: Earth, Beherit, Guts, FURCES and FURCES 2.
Sorry I'm writing wrong. Will there be parts of the series after the movie or not? :sad:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Konketsuji on August 07, 2011, 05:02:54 AM
I hope to be the same musical soundtrack of the old and the anime is the best OST: Earth, Beherit, Guts, FURCES and FURCES 2.
And I thought my English was bad. :serpico: FUR-ces? =) I can assure you, you won't be getting the same OST twice. It's just impossible.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 09, 2011, 12:37:43 PM
STUDIO4℃ updated their blog (link (http://studio4c.jugem.jp/)) today with information that they're seeking to expand their CGI staff. Let's hope it's to hire more people for the Berserk project :daiba:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saephon on August 11, 2011, 06:27:15 AM
STUDIO4℃ updated their blog (link (http://studio4c.jugem.jp/)) today with information that they're seeking to expand their CGI staff. Let's hope it's to hire more people for the Berserk project :daiba:

Oh, would that I lived in Japan....I'd infiltrate the project from the inside and make it the most accurate (art-wise) thing ever.  :badbone:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: mevoo on August 18, 2011, 11:07:37 PM
Sorry guys for the bad English before :ubik:.
I have one question. Are the 3 movies going to be telling the story of the old series only or it will be telling the FULL story?
And SORRY AGAIN.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 18, 2011, 11:50:13 PM
Sorry guys for the bad English before :ubik:.
I have one question. Are the 3 movies going to be telling the story of the old series only or it will be telling the FULL story?
And SORRY AGAIN.
The first three movies will cover the Golden Age.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JudeauChop on August 19, 2011, 03:31:16 PM
The first three movies will cover the Golden Age.
I misunderstood that.  That is the best news I've heard in weeks! =) Woo Woo!  :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 19, 2011, 03:46:12 PM
I misunderstood that.  That is the best news I've heard in weeks! =) Woo Woo!  :guts:
The first movie is called: Berserk - Golden Age I - The Egg of the Supreme King. But it was also confirmed by Clara de Porras.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 22, 2011, 09:08:43 AM
Clara announced something about the release of "advanced tickets" today, saying she'll inform us when she gets the information, and asking that we please wait for it. See the quote below.

Quote from: Clara_de_Porras
前売り券の発売ですが、情報がわかったらみなさんにすぐご案内しますので、それまでお待ちくださいね。

I'm thinking it might refer to preorders for a preview of the movie before the premiere.


EDIT:

She's posted a picture of the script! She says that the movie is in production right now and that the cast will be announced soon.

Quote from: Clara_de_Porras
こんばんは、クララです。「ベルセルク」の台本を見つけたのでコッソリ撮影してきました。映画はただ今製作中です。キャストの情報ももうすぐ発表できるそうなのでお楽しみに! #berserkfilm

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Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on August 22, 2011, 07:21:42 PM
Clara announced something about the release of "advanced tickets" today, saying she'll inform us when she gets the information, and asking that we please wait for it. See the quote below.

I'm thinking it might refer to preorders for a preview of the movie before the premiere.

I WANT.

She's posted a picture of the script! She says that the movie is in production right now and that the cast will be announced soon.

I WANT.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: ApostleBob on August 22, 2011, 07:52:58 PM
I have to say...  That script doesn't look very thick.  The typical screenplay for a feature film is between 95 and 125 pages.  Hollywood standard is 1 page = 1 minute of screen time.

Of course there are a lot of variables that might make this point moot.  It's an animated film, therefore it might have an entirely different format.  However I would think this would make the script even more descriptive, and therefore lengthy.  

The fact that it's probably written in Japanese characters would most definitely affect the page count in some way, though I'm not sure if it would make a script appear longer or shorter than an English equivalent.

Anyone seen many animation scripts written in Japanese?  Is there a standard page count for a feature?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 22, 2011, 08:08:30 PM
I have to say...  That script doesn't look very thick.  The typical screenplay for a feature film is between 95 and 125 pages.  Hollywood standard is 1 page = 1 minute of screen time.

Of course there are a lot of variables that might make this point moot.  It's an animated film, therefore it might have an entirely different format.  However I would think this would make the script even more descriptive, and therefore lengthy. 

The fact that it's probably written in Japanese characters would most definitely affect the page count in some way, though I'm not sure if it would make a script appear longer or shorter than an English equivalent.

Anyone seen many animation scripts written in Japanese?  Is there a standard page count for a feature?
I appreciate your thought exercise here, but there's simply not enough information in the picture to draw any logical conclusion about the length of the movie. Independent of the variables you listed above, there's also the paper quality to take into consideration. It could be hundreds of pages. It could be 50. It's neat that we have a picture of it, but it's not informative. It does, however, whet our appetite.

Seeing the picture reminds me that we're just 5 months away from its theatrical premiere (discounting any early screening), and all we can say for certain is that it will depict the first third of the Golden Age arc. And even that's a presumption, truly. There are still many questions left to be answered. Who will do the soundtrack? Will the original voice actors be back for this? Will it be shown in other countries?

As we get closer to the launch, I also anticipate we'll get more promotional art. That will be nice. I've seen the trailer about 99x at this point.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Tsundere on August 24, 2011, 09:26:36 AM
2012 Berserk Film Trilogy's Main Cast, Staff Listed on ANN http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-08-24/2011-berserk-film-trilogy-main-cast-staff-listed (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-08-24/2011-berserk-film-trilogy-main-cast-staff-listed)

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Cast:
Guts: Hiroaki Iwanaga (Tomica Hero Rescue Force, Moyashimon, Kamen Rider OOO)
Griffith: Takahiro Sakurai (Toriko, Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Boku-tachi wa Mada Shiranai.)
Casca: Toa Yukinari (Grey's Anatomy dubbing, Naruto Shippūden)

Staff:
Director: Toshiyuki Kubooka (Batman: Gotham Knight episode 5)
Screenplay: Ichiro Okouchi (Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion)
Character Design/Chief Animation Director: Naoyuki Onda (Gantz)
Animation Director: Satoshi Iwataki (Toaru Majutsu no Index)
Art Director: Yusuke Takeda (Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex), Goki Nakamura (Cat Soup), others
Art Setting: Mitsuhiro Arita (Final Fantasy XI), others
World Setting Supervisor: Kenichi Iwao (Final Fantasy XI/XIV)
Western Swordsmanship Coach: Jay Noyes (Final Fantasy XII)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 24, 2011, 11:26:10 AM
Neat, thanks for posting the link (I added the relevant info to your post)! The original VAs aren't reprising their roles apparently. Let's hope the new ones do a good job with it! Funny that some of the staff comes from Final Fantasy games, too.

And I wish we'd know who's doing the music.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Tsundere on August 24, 2011, 12:15:12 PM
I should have done that myself, lazzy me
Apparently Cascas seiyuu Toa Yukinari is rather new to animation. I checked out her one-liners in Steins Gate and Usagi Drop. Her role in DragonCrisis wasn't even specified and I won't look into Naruto. With so little reference it's a bit hard to tell if her voice fits the role. I didn't check the male cast.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on August 24, 2011, 01:37:47 PM
Thanks for posting that info, SKplag!

The original VAs aren't reprising their roles apparently. Let's hope the new ones do a good job with it!

Agreed! I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do.

Funny that some of the staff comes from Final Fantasy games, too.

I'm just glad no one from Final Fantasy XIII is on the list. :troll:

And I wish we'd know who's doing the music.

I'm hoping for Susumu, but I have a feeling that it won't be him. The score in the trailer sounded more traditional.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 24, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Great, glad these are known quantities now. Griffith's VA being Cloud Strife in that awful Square FF7 movie is sure to please some fans :ganishka:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmeev8SMgc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmeev8SMgc)

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Director: Toshiyuki Kubooka (Batman: Gotham Knight episode 5)
Now I'm going to have to go watch this.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on August 24, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
Great, glad these are known quantities now. Griffith's VA being Cloud Strife in that awful Square FF7 movie is sure to please some fans :ganishka:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmeev8SMgc
Now I'm going to have to go watch this.

I've seen it a while ago but can't remember wich one it is. I liked pretty much all of them in the "movie". check it out walter!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on August 24, 2011, 02:35:51 PM
Great, glad these are known quantities now. Griffith's VA being Cloud Strife in that awful Square FF7 movie is sure to please some fans :ganishka:

The movie wasn't that great (I enjoyed it when I first saw it, but it does not hold up on repeated viewings), but I liked Cloud's voice. These seiyuu are very good at changing their voices to fit the role, so he might not sound anything like himself in Berserk.

Now I'm going to have to go watch this.

The collection as a whole wasn't that great, but I really enjoyed Episode 5 of Batman: Gotham Knight. I thought it was the best of all the segments.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on August 24, 2011, 04:00:05 PM
Thanks for the info!!!  Hmmmm, not much to say about the voice actors until I hear them.  I really did like Guts and Griffiths' original VA (I don't think I'll miss Casca's), but generally speaking, I'm impressed with most Japanese VAs from anime that I've seen, so I have faith that this cast will be competent.  Here's hoping, anyway!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Konketsuji on August 24, 2011, 06:20:08 PM
I'm only familiar with Takahiro Sakurai, his voice acting in Code Geass was pretty good.(don't remember Cloud's voice, I think I'll follow Walter's link) And I guess I have to watch Gotham Knight one more time to see if Toshiyuki Kubooka is worthy. :void:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: mevoo on August 25, 2011, 01:03:07 AM
Why change the old sounds I do not think the film will succeed and I hope to be in the film Voice of Canna, Nobutoshi :guts:

Because of    http://myanimelist.net/anime/10218/Berserk_Ougon_Jidaihen_I:_Haou_no_Tamago
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 25, 2011, 02:19:50 AM
Why change the old sounds I do not think the film will succeed and I hope to be in the film Voice of Canna, Nobutoshi :guts:
Let's not get too extremist here over some goddamned voice actors. There's a number of good reasons not to use the same voice actors, chiefly among them, it's been 14-15 years since the last anime. I know Nobutoshi did some work for the PS2 game, but that doesn't mean contracting him and everyone else in the original cast would be feasible.

Getting new talent is a totally viable way to go for this project.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on August 25, 2011, 02:50:36 AM
Change is good, here's hoping they don't have Guts yelling like an idiot every time he swings his sword. There's no reason to overreact to new...

Griffith's VA being Cloud Strife in that awful Square FF7 movie is sure to please some fans :ganishka:

Oh, fuck me! :femto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmeev8SMgc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmeev8SMgc)

Actually, he's not bad, not so different from the last VA and could be an improvement.

Let's not get too extremist here over some goddamned voice actors.

Remember, the important things here are the amount of CGI used (better be hand drawn! >_<), voice actors (r my favorite seiyu in it? SAGOI ^__^), and if it's a totally bitchen kickass anime one can be proud to rep on 4chan.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on August 25, 2011, 05:13:58 AM
I liked the old Guts. The new guy's got a lot to live up to in my opinion.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 25, 2011, 02:03:17 PM
I liked the old Guts. The new guy's got a lot to live up to in my opinion.

Agreed. I don't mind new voice actors, but I've always liked Nobutoshi Canna's take on Guts. Hopefully this new guy has got what it takes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on August 25, 2011, 02:44:45 PM
They probably just changed the cast to stop me from doing a combined edition of Berserk: Recut. :carcus:

Anyway, yeah, Guts is the toughest to replace, but judging from the trailer, whether that's an old clip of Canna or new, it doesn't sound like they're going in too different of a direction. Unfortunately, that also indicates that either way they're probably still going to make Guts do this all the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aLR-8c11ms
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on August 25, 2011, 03:10:07 PM
Great, glad these are known quantities now. Griffith's VA being Cloud Strife in that awful Square FF7 movie is sure to please some fans :ganishka:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmeev8SMgc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmeev8SMgc)
Now I'm going to have to go watch this.
Wait, Griffith's original voice was the guy who play Sephiroth. Weird coincidence.

I definitely think Cloud's VA fits him a lot better though, I never liked Griffith's original VA, too manly sounding for him. I'm looking forward to Takahiro Sakurai taking on the role.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on August 25, 2011, 03:24:47 PM
I definitely think Cloud's VA fits him a lot better though, I never liked Griffith's original VA, too manly sounding for him.

Really? I didn't find him that manly, but Griffith's supposed to be a charismatic leader of men, so making him sound unmanly isn't necessarily the goal either. From Mule's description, he's got a soft, vibrating voice that doesn't even sound human. Granted, this is after the Incarnation Ceremony when he's in fact not human, but Guts described his voice as being the same as before.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 25, 2011, 04:01:54 PM
Really? I didn't find him that manly, but Griffith's supposed to be a charismatic leader of men, so making him sound unmanly isn't necessarily the goal either.

Yeah, I think Toshiyuki Morikawa's voice fitted Griffith pretty well. He's not supposed to sound like a girl.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on August 25, 2011, 04:42:46 PM
Yeah, I think Toshiyuki Morikawa's voice fitted Griffith pretty well. He's not supposed to sound like a girl.
No, he should sound like the cowardly weasel he is, because we all know what he's going to do to JUDO! :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on August 25, 2011, 06:25:48 PM
Really? I didn't find him that manly, but Griffith's supposed to be a charismatic leader of men, so making him sound unmanly isn't necessarily the goal either. From Mule's description, he's got a soft, vibrating voice that doesn't even sound human. Granted, this is after the Incarnation Ceremony when he's in fact not human, but Guts described his voice as being the same as before.
Perhaps too "manly" was the wrong word. What I mean is that he sounded too much like your average, deep-voiced man, it didn't sound "soft" or "vibrating" at all. It just sounded like a man. I personally think Griffith's voice should be more unique than that, considering it was described as not even sounding human. I think the new VA has the potential to sound a little more like that, maybe.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on August 25, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Perhaps too "manly" was the wrong word. What I mean is that he sounded too much like your average, deep-voiced man, it didn't sound "soft" or "vibrating" at all.

So, too "humanly." =) I don't know, I thought it fit the criteria alright, though it's all pretty subjective. He didn't sound harsh or anything, and they shouldn't go too far where his voice sounds high or sing-songy either.

It just sounded like a man. I personally think Griffith's voice should be more unique than that, considering it was described as not even sounding human. I think the new VA has the potential to sound a little more like that, maybe.

I thought he sounded similar, but with a little more emotion in his voice, which I liked. No telling how he's going to portray Griffith though, but I'd like to hear a more confident, earnest version of that (exuberant, even). My fear is they're going to try to approximate the same voices, which sort of defeats the purpose of recasting.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saephon on August 25, 2011, 09:25:46 PM
Griffith's old VA was my favorite out of all the characters. The new one sounds appropriate enough, I just need to not watch clips of Cloud, or I'm going to subconsciously find reasons to be annoyed. :slan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 26, 2011, 07:29:08 AM
The official pages for the cast & staff are online:

http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/cast.html (http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/cast.html)
http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/staff.html (http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/staff.html)

We're getting a little footage of Casca's and Griffith's childhood flashbacks at the top, which is always nice.

The trailer page now also shows Guts' first encounter with the Skull Knight, and is clearly arranged so new trailers can be added easily.

http://www.berserkfilm.com/trailer/ (http://www.berserkfilm.com/trailer/)

In other news, tomorrow (August 27th) a Berserk booth will be held at the character & hobby convention "Chara 2011" (キャラホビ2011) (http://www.chara-hobby.com/) which is taking place in the Makuhari Messe. A lifesize replica of the Dragon Slayer will be displayed (http://twitter.com/#!/Clara_de_Porras/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FlaB1N5V) (over 2 meters long apparently), and some footage from the movie will be shown on nine big screens.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on August 26, 2011, 07:49:09 AM
The official pages for the cast & staff are online:

We're getting a little footage of Casca's and Griffith's childhood flashbacks at the top, which is always nice.

The trailer page now also shows Guts' first encounter with the Skull Knight, and is clearly arranged so new trailers can be added easily.

Thanks for the info Aaz!!!  Those teaser pics up top are fantastic.  I'm loving it!!!  The SK/Guts one is extremely cool, and I think the young Griffith running is quite pretty.  Also, I didn't realize this, but the youtube trailer that they have on their site is full 1080p!!!  I just watched the trailer again, in all its glory.  SO beautiful!

In other news, tomorrow (August 27th) a Berserk booth will be held at the character & hobby convention "Chara 2011" (キャラホビ2011) (http://www.chara-hobby.com/) which is taking place in the Makuhari Messe. A lifesize replica of the Dragon Slayer will be displayed (http://twitter.com/#!/Clara_de_Porras/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FlaB1N5V) (over 2 meters long apparently), and some footage from the movie will be shown on nine big screens.

!!!  Man, if there is new footage shown, I sure as hell hope it makes its way to the internet!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 26, 2011, 08:24:01 AM
Also, I didn't realize this, but the youtube trailer that they have on their site is full 1080p!!!  I just watched the trailer again, in all its glory.  SO beautiful!

Of course, it's been up on the official youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/berserkfilmtv) for a month now.

Man, if there is new footage shown, I sure as hell hope it makes its way to the internet!!!

Keep your fingers crossed. :slan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on August 26, 2011, 08:27:09 AM

Thanks for the information. That replica of the DS, is something I would really like to see. I hope they do show more on that booth. :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on August 26, 2011, 08:32:28 AM
It would be a crime to not illegally record the new footage and post it on the internetz. :troll:

Also.. why is guts shirtless in: http://www.berserkfilm.com/trailer/  :???:

Is that a post-eclipse scene? or is it when Guts and SK first meet? but then Guts should be fully clothed if that were the case..
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on August 26, 2011, 08:49:00 AM
Is that a post-eclipse scene? or is it when Guts and SK first meet? but then Guts should be fully clothed if that were the case..

It's when they first meet, like I said. And yeah, he should be wearing clothes. Add that to the list of inaccuracies we've been pointing out ever since the very first footage was shown.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on August 26, 2011, 03:03:39 PM
I noticed that, as well. Maybe they haven't added the 3D clothing yet. :troll:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on August 26, 2011, 03:13:45 PM
Only the Griffith flashback screen looks good.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on August 26, 2011, 03:28:48 PM
Of course, it's been up on the official youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/berserkfilmtv) for a month now.

Yeah, and it barely has 6,000 views. Meanwhile, DirectDK's uploads of the trailer have a combined 200,000. :ganishka:

Speaking of which, I added subs to the 1080p version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeCxcX7sAgM) if anyone still cares at this point. Where's trailer 2 already? =)

Also.. why is guts shirtless in: http://www.berserkfilm.com/trailer/  :???:

To make their first encounter more intimate. :slan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 27, 2011, 04:39:20 AM
Clara posted a picture of that DS exhibit: http://twitpic.com/6bs3wm

(http://skullknight.net/images/ds-life sized.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Oburi on August 27, 2011, 07:02:58 AM
Dragon Killer!

Does look good though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on August 27, 2011, 10:04:07 PM
Dragon Killer? Why call it that if you're going to stay true to the manga. It also looks a bit short considering it's not bigger than the random guy walking by haha!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on August 27, 2011, 11:00:51 PM
(http://assets2.liverpoolfc.tv/lfc_forums_assets_images/icons/facepalm2.gif)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on August 28, 2011, 05:54:17 AM
Looks more like the Dragon Scratcher to me. :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on August 28, 2011, 06:26:25 PM
No Oyster Apostle is safe around that  :puck:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on August 28, 2011, 06:39:56 PM
EUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHH. .. .. .

They could do a little bit of research... Yeah, it means the same thing, but why not google "Guts' sword" before you print that up...?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: mevoo on August 29, 2011, 09:38:57 AM
I have some important questions.

I hope that the changes that are present in trailer  just a show and not the final form of the main producer of films .

Because I want to be matching for the same events   manga 
Will we see the old sword in the face guts   with the Griffith after the war that were with Boscone or not

Will we see Wyald
In the movies or not?
 
Are all films in 2012 or not?

 the duration of each film less than two hours or not?

Will the events of Black Sword Man in the series or ova?

Will there be parts of the manga series tells the story of the other after the Black Sword Man?


I am very sorry to  my Language bad Because I am from the Arab world and dont  has perfected the English language .
   

Thank you :sad:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on August 29, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
mevoo I dont think your questions can be answered yet

by the way that Dragon Scratcher thing looks really short. Are they making fun of us   :puck:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on August 29, 2011, 12:37:23 PM
I hope that the changes that are present in trailer  just a show and not the final form of the main producer of films .

Nobody knows.

Because I want to be matching for the same events   manga  
Will we see the old sword in the face guts   with the Griffith after the war that were with Boscone or not

Nobody knows.

Will we see Wyald
In the movies or not?

Nobody knows.

Are all films in 2012 or not?

Probably not. Maybe intervals of 1 year or more.

the duration of each film less than two hours or not?

Nobody knows.

Will the events of Black Sword Man in the series or ova?

It will all depend on the success of the first movies, and the amount of adult content they are willing to show.

Will there be parts of the manga series tells the story of the other after the Black Sword Man?

Yes.

I am very sorry to  my Language bad Because I am from the Arab world and dont  has perfected the English language .

Not a problem. Though you should read a little more on the forum before asking such questions. All of them have been discussed before.    
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Death May Die on August 29, 2011, 09:27:19 PM
A Berserk facebook page posted these head shots, from a site called from JPOPASIA.COM. The news came about 3 days ago, I didn't see anyone else post the pictures so I thought I would give it a shot.

(http://www.jpopasia.com/i1/news/3/8735-pihyo3w9om.jpg)
(http://www.jpopasia.com/i1/news/3/8735-meus9dcyo4.jpg)
(http://www.jpopasia.com/i1/news/3/8735-hfcmqh87ib.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on August 29, 2011, 09:51:31 PM
Funny how most anime tend to westernize characters, and how these ones, that should look western, look more asian.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Tenfarther on August 29, 2011, 10:18:55 PM
Funny how most anime tend to westernize characters, and how these ones, that should look western, look more asian.

My thoughts exactly.  I've been thinking this since the first berserk movie trailers were released, their eyes in particular.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on August 30, 2011, 12:23:23 AM
Those headshots are interesting. Different than what I'm used to, but not necessarily bad.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on August 30, 2011, 12:41:56 AM
You can definitely see similarities between these character designs and the one the guy did for the Gantz anime. As far as anime character designs go, they don't look that bad.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Death May Die on August 30, 2011, 04:48:18 PM
Clara posted a picture of that DS exhibit: http://twitpic.com/6bs3wm

(http://skullknight.net/images/ds-life sized.jpg)

Another view.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/303556_2356070505563_1364222559_2778811_3792972_n.jpg (http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/303556_2356070505563_1364222559_2778811_3792972_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on August 30, 2011, 06:56:31 PM
Here's 2 more pictures from Clara's Twitter account I just saw ...

(http://p.twimg.com/AXxuJwnCAAEgXYM.jpg)
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/382574316.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1314735025&Signature=%2B3Nvc98rWp1Hyn6EX8Ah%2BwCRfDc%3D)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: ApostleBob on August 31, 2011, 05:29:19 AM
After looking at the 'Dragon Killer' picture from the convention some more, I think the size of it in comparison to those people might be deceptive.  The guy and girl aren't right next to it, but are several feet closer to the camera.  Might just be a perspective thing.  Anyway, I hope we get some more pictures from the event.  Hopefully they'll release some of the video footage they show there.

One note on the color treatment of those headshot.  While the colors really pop unlike the previous anime, anyone else notice how Casca seems to look much more Caucasian than in any of Miura's depictions?  She's a tad bit tanner than Guts or Griffith in this new anime, but I've always seen her portrayed as nearly Kushan in skin color.

Speaking of which, has Miura ever commented on his intention for this?  No character has ever mistaken her for Kushan, so I doubt that's what it is.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on August 31, 2011, 06:18:59 PM
A Berserk facebook page posted these head shots, from a site called from JPOPASIA.COM. The news came about 3 days ago, I didn't see anyone else post the pictures so I thought I would give it a shot.

At first look, I was a bit taken back.  But the more I look at it, the more I'm cool with it.  Yeah, the faces have a bit more of that modern anime look, but I don't think they look generic.  Griffith's eyes are quite intense in that picture.  I do hope his eyes don't ALWAYS look like that though, cuz that won't fit his persona.

Anyways, I guess no news of that footage that was shown on the 9 screens.  Sadly, that probably means it wasn't new footage, but just the trailer =(.  DRAT.  I really wanted new footage!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Guts_100 on August 31, 2011, 07:15:32 PM
After looking at the 'Dragon Killer' picture from the convention some more, I think the size of it in comparison to those people might be deceptive.  The guy and girl aren't right next to it, but are several feet closer to the camera.  Might just be a perspective thing.


I don't think so man.  The sword doesn't look to scale, not only is it smaller than the Dragon Slayer in absolute size, but the height to width proportion looks wrong (ie, the sword is no long enough).

Whatever, as long as they get it right in the anime.

On the subject of that, I'm not super fond of those three 'face' pictures either.  Guts' face is too round and soft, and the others aren't great either.  Maybe the animation throughout will change, some shots will look more like the manga, while others look more like ....ahhhh, that posted picture.

And as others have mentioned, hopefully the find Guts' clothes in that first scene with Skully.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on August 31, 2011, 07:23:01 PM
Dragon Killer? Why call it that if you're going to stay true to the manga. It also looks a bit short considering it's not bigger than the random guy walking by haha!
(http://assets2.liverpoolfc.tv/lfc_forums_assets_images/icons/facepalm2.gif)
EUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHH. .. .. .

They could do a little bit of research... Yeah, it means the same thing, but why not google "Guts' sword" before you print that up...?
As Gobs indicated, Dragon Killer is a correct translation of the original japanese term, "DORAGON Koroshi" (ドラゴン ころし). It's no reason to be upset. Dragon Slayer is simply a more elegant approximation of the term in English, to our ears. But "Killer" is just as correct as Slayer or even Murderer. I also think the replica looks pretty good.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on August 31, 2011, 10:53:06 PM
Yeah in this picture the Dragon Slayer looks perfectly fine
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/303556_2356070505563_1364222559_2778811_3792972_n.jpg (http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/303556_2356070505563_1364222559_2778811_3792972_n.jpg)
I think the other picture may just be misleading.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on August 31, 2011, 11:36:02 PM
As Gobs indicated, Dragon Killer is a correct translation of the original japanese term, "DORAGON Koroshi" (ドラゴン ころし). It's no reason to be upset. Dragon Slayer is simply a more elegant approximation of the term in English, to our ears. But "Killer" is just as correct as Slayer or even Murderer. I also think the replica looks pretty good.

Nevertheless it was pretty jarring mistake. If they don't know how it is pronounced outside of Japan, why print it in English?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on September 01, 2011, 02:03:05 AM
Nevertheless it was pretty jarring mistake. If they don't know how it is pronounced outside of Japan, why print it in English?
Japan doesn't print stuff in English for the sake of America, they do it because they like printing stuff in English. We don't matter that much.

Also, who decided that "Slayer" was correct in the first place? When was it first called that?

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Cyrus Jong on September 01, 2011, 04:00:08 AM
Japan doesn't print stuff in English for the sake of America, they do it because they like printing stuff in English. We don't matter that much.

Also, who decided that "Slayer" was correct in the first place? When was it first called that?
Well, the first Berserk-related product that ever got an "official" English translation that I'm aware of was the Dreamcast game, which called it the Dragon Slayer. Now, there's nothing wrong with "Slayer," I like the term for the sword as well, but the translation of that game was...not very good, to put it lightly.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on September 01, 2011, 04:08:14 AM
Well, the first Berserk-related product that ever got an "official" English translation that I'm aware of was the Dreamcast game, which called it the Dragon Slayer. Now, there's nothing wrong with "Slayer," I like the term for the sword as well, but the translation of that game was...not very good, to put it lightly.
Well in that case, I wouldn't call it a "jarring mistake," to not call it a term that originated from a poorly translated video game. And the thing is, it's just a name on a display in Japan, it has nothing to do with an English translation. Japan just writes names of things in English because they like to, and, as far as Japan is concerned, Dragon Killer is the way to write it in English. When the anime actually gets dubbed I would bet it will be called the Dragon Slayer.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 01, 2011, 06:11:26 AM
It's no Knight of Skeleton as far as undesirable translations go, that's for sure. Then again, we need to be prepared for discrepancies...

www.knightofskeleton.net :SK:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 02, 2011, 12:15:07 AM
It's no Knight of Skeleton as far as undesirable translations go, that's for sure. Then again, we need to be prepared for discrepancies...

www.knightofskeleton.net :SK:
Good boy.

Yeah, it's silly to get upset over "undesirable" translations, but I do it so much! Dragon Killer and Dragon Slayer are the same thing, but it's just that "slayer" sounds cooler.

Though with "skull knight," I think Aaz was telling me that the Japanese text of "SKULL KNIGHT" translates directly to "SKULL KNIGHT" with no wiggle room for any errors. Needless to say, the Berserk Project guys aren't English translating experts and when the movie's released, I'm sure we'll get something real good.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 02, 2011, 11:18:08 AM
That sword replica doesn't look that bad to me, and they said it was over 2 meters long, so it shouldn't be too small either. Maybe it's the perspective. As for the name "Dragon Slayer", it came from BSOM as far as I know. Sure, "Dragon Killer" isn't so good, but really guys, if you want to nitpick about the Japanese using incorrect names, this is but a drop in the ocean. And I don't think anyone here wants me to start schooling them about the use of proper terms in Berserk in general, official or unofficial.

Though with "skull knight," I think Aaz was telling me that the Japanese text of "SKULL KNIGHT" translates directly to "SKULL KNIGHT" with no wiggle room for any errors.

Well it could always be "Knight of Skull", but that'd be stupid. Less stupid than "Knight of Skeleton" though, and more correct.

Needless to say, the Berserk Project guys aren't English translating experts and when the movie's released, I'm sure we'll get something real good.

That's what it comes down to. These guys know as much about English as the average member here knows about Japanese. It's nothing new.



In other news (i.e. actual news), a new CM is soon to be released. It's currently undergoing Automated Dialogue Replacement (post-recording), which means we'll hear some of the voice acting.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 02, 2011, 12:49:33 PM
n other news (i.e. actual news), a new CM is soon to be released. It's currently undergoing Automated Dialogue Replacement (post-recording), which means we'll hear some of the voice acting.

Great news. How soon is soon?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 02, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
Great news. How soon is soon?

Well if I had a date I'd have posted it obviously, so... be patient. :slan:

I don't expect it to take a month, but it could be "not so soon". In truth they didn't give any indication.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on September 02, 2011, 03:04:38 PM
it's nice to know though. Thanx for the heads up Aaz.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on September 02, 2011, 03:49:33 PM
That's great news! I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 02, 2011, 04:51:13 PM
In other news (i.e. actual news), a new CM is soon to be released. It's currently undergoing Automated Dialogue Replacement (post-recording), which means we'll hear some of the voice acting.

YOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! :guts: :guts: :ubik: :ubik: :casca: :casca:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on September 02, 2011, 11:43:26 PM
Crossing my fingers for some Puck action.

 
(http://www.animenation.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/131453-berserk03_super-450x298.jpg)

 :puck:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 03, 2011, 05:13:00 AM
Crossing my fingers for some Puck action.

You're aware the movie focuses on the Golden Age arc, aren't you?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 03, 2011, 05:33:49 AM
You're aware the movie focuses on the Golden Age arc, aren't you?
Well... Who knows when it comes to the commercial. Odds are it's gonna be for volume 36. Last time, they showed scenes from all over the place.

But, at the same time, they'd probably wanna show off what they got going.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on September 03, 2011, 07:39:10 AM
You're aware the movie focuses on the Golden Age arc, aren't you?

Of course, I was just assuming since all the other CMs were from random parts of the manga that this would follow suit.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on September 03, 2011, 03:17:18 PM
Aaz you named it CM, does it mean it'll have only 15 sec of real movie video like previous CMs ?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 03, 2011, 03:43:57 PM
Aaz you named it CM, does it mean it'll have only 15 sec of real movie video like previous CMs ?

Possibly.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 06, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
Here is the studio where the film's music is being recorded: http://www.airstudios.com/studios/lyndhurst-hall.aspx (http://www.airstudios.com/studios/lyndhurst-hall.aspx)

It's a prestigious place apparently. Clara_de_Porras has posted various pictures of it on Twitter (01 (http://p.twimg.com/AYlTT7cCMAMUfaX.jpg:large) | 02 (http://p.twimg.com/AYla3ooCAAAhrX_.jpg:large) | 03 (http://p.twimg.com/AYp_1kqCEAAwpLB.jpg:large)). The names of the people working on the music will be announced later.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 06, 2011, 12:03:40 PM
Here is the studio where the film's music is being recorded: http://www.airstudios.com/studios/lyndhurst-hall.aspx (http://www.airstudios.com/studios/lyndhurst-hall.aspx)

It's a prestigious place apparently. Clara_de_Porras has posted various pictures of it on Twitter (01 (http://p.twimg.com/AYlTT7cCMAMUfaX.jpg:large) | 02 (http://p.twimg.com/AYla3ooCAAAhrX_.jpg:large) | 03 (http://p.twimg.com/AYp_1kqCEAAwpLB.jpg:large)). The names of the people working on the music will be announced later.
Well, that gives us enough information to deduce that it will be, at least in large part, an orchestral score, and not something electronic.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 06, 2011, 12:20:46 PM
Well, that gives us enough information to deduce that it will be, at least in large part, an orchestral score, and not something electronic.

Indeed, although that already seemed likely anyway.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 06, 2011, 01:39:36 PM
Still hoping for Hirasawa Susumu to be involved in it. If not, it'll be a big letdown for me.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on September 06, 2011, 01:43:42 PM
Still hoping for Hirasawa Susumu to be involved in it. If not, it'll be a big letdown for me.

Of course it'll would be cool to have him again but I am not against (most definitely not against) an orchestral score! So much power in these when they are done right!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on September 06, 2011, 03:35:08 PM
Of course it'll would be cool to have him again but I am not against (most definitely not against) an orchestral score! So much power in these when they are done right!

How about some Harry Gregson Williams?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 06, 2011, 04:23:11 PM
Here is the studio where the film's music is being recorded: http://www.airstudios.com/studios/lyndhurst-hall.aspx (http://www.airstudios.com/studios/lyndhurst-hall.aspx)

It's a prestigious place apparently. Clara_de_Porras has posted various pictures of it on Twitter (01 (http://p.twimg.com/AYlTT7cCMAMUfaX.jpg:large) | 02 (http://p.twimg.com/AYla3ooCAAAhrX_.jpg:large) | 03 (http://p.twimg.com/AYp_1kqCEAAwpLB.jpg:large)). The names of the people working on the music will be announced later.

That place looks pretty ballin'!  I am still hoping that Susumu will be involved somehow, but if it ends up being a full orchestral score, that could be really cool too.  It's much better than a synth / midi orchestral score, which can be pretty convincing nowadays, but not nearly as good as the real thing!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 06, 2011, 09:10:46 PM
Do we seriously need a cliched orchestral score just because it's a "medieval" movie? Susumu is perfect for Miura, therefore he is perfect for Berserk.

It's much better than a synth / midi orchestral score, which can be pretty convincing nowadays, but not nearly as good as the real thing!

Actually it's pretty much the same thing if they use high end sampling libraries. You won't notice a difference.

For those who understand spanish, what Satoshi Kon says in this video from 2:30 onwards is pretty much my stance on a soundtrack for Berserk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFFrrYPPeJ0
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 06, 2011, 09:41:01 PM
Do we seriously need a cliched orchestral score just because it's a "medieval" movie? Susumu is perfect for Miura, therefore he is perfect for Berserk.
It's presumptuous to call this clichéd at this point. We haven't heard anything. I'm not going to discount something just because it's different from what came before. Anyway, an orchestral score fits in with this being a big theatrical release. I imagine it will sound pretty good in a big theater experience.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Chaos on September 07, 2011, 01:11:43 AM
Truth be told, I'm kinda hoping The RZA somehow gets involved, Afro Samurai Style  :troll:

Seriously looking forward to the new footage to be released soon, excited to see some new stuff!  :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: berserk36 on September 07, 2011, 11:41:29 PM
so any news of this coming to usa/canada or at very lest any news of it being in english.?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on September 08, 2011, 12:18:47 AM
so any news of this coming to usa/canada or at very lest any news of it being in english.?

Nope, I suggest re-reading the manga enough times so you know virtually every line of dialogue personally. That's where I'm at.  :badbone:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 13, 2011, 02:35:35 PM
According to berserk_project it seems TOMO the TOMO will be doing the movie's theme song, and we might get to hear it soon.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 13, 2011, 10:08:32 PM
According to berserk_project it seems TOMO the TOMO will be doing the movie's theme song, and we might get to hear it soon.

I can hardly wait. :griffnotevil: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHnzZtN_gKQ)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on September 13, 2011, 10:17:40 PM
According to berserk_project it seems TOMO the TOMO will be doing the movie's theme song, and we might get to hear it soon.

This confirms the rumors that I have heard back in the days of the commercials. I listened to a few tunes back then and she didn't strike me as a music genius, but she ain't bad either. The songs I heard were very calm, which kind of doesn't fit that much with the Berserk universe. At least it might be better than the old anime's theme songs by Penpals and Silver Fins (they were okay to me on their own, but they didn't fit at all with a dark fantasy). Anyways I'm ready to give TOMO the TOMO a chance, since I don't know much of her work. The absence of news about Susumu Hirasawa is troubling though  :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 13, 2011, 10:33:53 PM
The absence of news about Susumu Hirasawa is troubling though  :judo:

Maybe he's busy? Anyway, I don't think there's room for him beyond some token involvement at this point, and while it would be nice to get new Berserk music from him, it could also be nice to get a different take. Hirasawa has contributed plenty of his vision in regards to Berserk already, which might also be a reason he wouldn't be involved this time, he's already been there and done it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 13, 2011, 11:36:57 PM
I can hardly wait. :griffnotevil: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHnzZtN_gKQ)

 :ganishka:

Never gets old.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 13, 2011, 11:50:04 PM
Well... Shit. I wanted Hirasawa.

I'll give the new stuff a chance though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 14, 2011, 02:04:52 PM
At least it might be better than the old anime's theme songs by Penpals and Silver Fins

Yeah, like I said a while back it'll definitely be better than both of these as far as I'm concerned.



Clara says there'll be a significant announcement at the TGS tomorrow! Could it be a new Berserk game?! Would definitely make sense given the scope of the new project (in fact I've been wondering about it ever since the "project" was officially announced). We better keep an eye out for it!

In other news, the new TV CM is done. We'll hear more about it in the coming weeks (yeah, not so soon).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on September 14, 2011, 02:21:58 PM
Clara says there'll be a significant announcement at the TGS tomorrow! Could it be a new Berserk game?! Would definitely make sense given the scope of the new project (in fact I've been wondering about it ever since the "project" was officially announced). We better keep an eye out for it!

In other news, the new TV CM is done. We'll hear more about it in the coming weeks (yeah, not so soon).

Wow thats exciting!! I never thought about the prospect of a new game.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 14, 2011, 02:30:57 PM
If the announcement is being made at Tokyo Game Show, it's almost certainly going to be a game tie-in to the movie. And that's awesome. Imagine -- Golden Age RTS.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 14, 2011, 02:33:07 PM
If the announcement is being made at Tokyo Game Show, it's almost certainly going to be a game tie-in to the movie. And that's awesome. Imagine -- Golden Age RTS.

I don't think it'll necessarily be a tie-in to the movie; that'd be rather limiting.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 14, 2011, 02:35:33 PM
I don't think it'll necessarily be a tie-in to the movie; that'd be rather limiting.
The only reason I suggested that is because of the timing and Clara being the one making the announcement. Those angles add up. After all, it's posted in THIS thread :guts:

But sure, it could be unrelated. Maybe something new in the vein of the PS2 game's adaptation of the manga sequences?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 14, 2011, 02:47:24 PM
After all, it's posted in THIS thread :guts:

Hahaha yeah, point taken.

But sure, it could be unrelated. Maybe something new in the vein of the PS2 game's adaptation of the manga sequences?

Yeah, I'm thinking they might do something more general, in that vein. Wait & see I guess.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 14, 2011, 04:01:44 PM
This is all so exciting!!!  I CAN'T WAIT!!! :guts: :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on September 14, 2011, 04:48:47 PM
I'm quite excited to discover what it is. Something in the vein of the two previous games would be fine for me...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 14, 2011, 05:51:36 PM
If it is a new game, which seems likely if it's being announced at TGS, then I would be interested to see a game based on the Golden Age Arc. Thinking about it, making Griffith, Casca and Guts all playable characters in something of a Kingdom Under Fire style game, would be fantastic.

Worst case scenario? It's a card trading game.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 14, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
Guts in Soul Calibur!!!  Hehe JK.  Any style of game, I'll happily purchase, and play to my heart's content.  For the record, I enjoyed the Dreamcast game more than the PS2 game, although I appreciated the amount of video footage they animated for the PS2 game.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 14, 2011, 06:28:39 PM
Worst case scenario? It's a card trading game.

I wouldn't mind that at all, but it seems pretty unlikely.

Any style of game, I'll happily purchase, and play to my heart's content.  For the record, I enjoyed the Dreamcast game more than the PS2 game, although I appreciated the amount of video footage they animated for the PS2 game.

I second all these statements.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 14, 2011, 06:38:52 PM
I second all these statements.

Thirded. The DC game felt more solid and fluid to me. I also liked how you had to be tactical with your sword in enclosed areas.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 15, 2011, 05:22:16 AM
A google translate of the latest tweet

Quote
Hello, this is Clara. Tokyo Game Show 2011 presented at the mention yesterday is likely to announce to everyone at around 17 ('_ `) ♪ #

So, the announcement should be in the next couple of hours.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 15, 2011, 07:09:47 AM
It's a Capcom game! It's a collaboration on Dragon's Dogma... Not a dedicated game or anything. It seems weapons and armors from the movie will appear in the game.

http://www.capcom.co.jp/DD/collabo01.html  (http://www.capcom.co.jp/DD/collabo01.html)



Hmm, some contradictory information makes me think I might have interpreted berserk_project's tweet wrong yesterday. According to this website (http://www.otakei.otakuma.net/archives/5995596.html), Susumu Hirasawa would be doing the movie's theme song! If true that should make a few people happy. :slan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on September 15, 2011, 08:06:22 AM
This reminds way too much of the April fool's joke you did a few years back. :puck:

But its nowhere near April, I'm sure this time this is 100% honest and awesome news to hear! :guts: If not i will be punching a hole through my computer screen.

also, I checked the game out and it looks pretty good!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 15, 2011, 08:09:44 AM
Whilst it's a shame it's not a dedicated Berserk title, it's nice to see it's getting recognition by Capcom.

Also, if Hirasawa IS doing the music, that's fantasic news
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 15, 2011, 08:22:52 AM
Whilst it's a shame it's not a dedicated Berserk title, it's nice to see it's getting recognition by Capcom.

They're also partnering with other series though, so it's not a Berserk-exclusive thing.

Also, if Hirasawa IS doing the music, that's fantasic news

It'd just be the theme song, the rest is being done by someone else (we already knew that). I'll give more info later; I'm really busy at work right now.

EDIT: Well, I guess either berserk_project's tweet about TOMO the TOMO was correct after all, or the website was ordered to take down the information because they got it too early, but in any case the article was removed (http://www.otakei.otakuma.net/archives/5995596.html). So... Sorry guys but don't expect anything for now. We'll have to wait for the official announcement to be sure.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 15, 2011, 10:39:34 AM
EDIT: Well, I guess either berserk_project's tweet about TOMO the TOMO was correct after all, or the website was ordered to take down the information because they got it too early, but in any case the article was removed (http://www.otakei.otakuma.net/archives/5995596.html). So... Sorry guys but don't expect anything for now. We'll have to wait for the official announcement to be sure.

Well, with all due respect to TOMO the TOMO, I know which scenario I'm rooting for:

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/tomovshirasawa.jpg)

 :carcus:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 15, 2011, 05:48:03 PM
Excellent! Hoping for those Susumu news to be true.

Today i was toying around with soundtrack type sounds (horns and percussion), just to relax from my other stuff. So i'll be presenting my unofficial proposition for stock Berserk medieval music, recorded live. The name was the first thing that came to my mind.
Obvious Poledouris influences :P

http://soundcloud.com/migueldevoid/hans-gruber-lives
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 15, 2011, 08:05:29 PM
Today i was toying around with soundtrack type sounds (horns and percussion), just to relax from my other stuff. So i'll be presenting my unofficial proposition for stock Berserk medieval music, recorded live. The name was the first thing that came to my mind.
Obvious Poledouris influences :P

http://soundcloud.com/migueldevoid/hans-gruber-lives

Fitting, since Poledouris wrote the music for proto-Berserk influence Flesh + Blood. :carcus:

Anyway, nice, the opening brought the Conan theme to mind, which I think is a given in this kind of music since it always sets the right tone, though the staccato wind music from 1:30 to 2:15 is a bit challenging for this sort of music (though when I imagine bloody mayhem it works =), and other than the following quiet part and the return the the rest sort of reminds me of a blown out orchestral version of Sign of Evil from the Doom soundtrack.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 15, 2011, 08:25:05 PM
Well, with all due respect to TOMO the TOMO, I know which scenario I'm rooting for:

HAHAHAH, too funny.  Susumu is 10000 times greater than Tomo the Tomo.  I really hope Susumu is involved.

EDIT: Well, I guess either berserk_project's tweet about TOMO the TOMO was correct after all, or the website was ordered to take down the information because they got it too early, but in any case the article was removed (http://www.otakei.otakuma.net/archives/5995596.html). So... Sorry guys but don't expect anything for now. We'll have to wait for the official announcement to be sure.

I can't help it at this point!!!  Aaz, I wasn't able to click on the link when the article was up, but was it an article SOLELY to announce Susumu, or was it an article about various things?  I ask, because if it was an article that talked about a few things Berserk, then having the entire article removed would suggest Susumu IS really doing some music for it, and it was leaked information.  Because otherwise, they would have just corrected that section of the article to read Tomo the Tomo instead.  No?

It's a Capcom game! It's a collaboration on Dragon's Dogma... Not a dedicated game or anything. It seems weapons and armors from the movie will appear in the game.

BAH! That's a let down for me.  Although Dragon's Dogma looks to be awesome game (lots of hype about it on the video game blogs), I was really hoping for a full fledged Berserk game.  I guess, too good to be true at this point!


Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on September 15, 2011, 09:18:43 PM
This reminds way too much of the April fool's joke you did a few years back. :puck:

I cried a little. :judo:

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: kaimera on September 15, 2011, 10:10:06 PM
At least in the Animenewsnetwork there's Susumu noted as the man for the music.  :daiba: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12397
And i still see the possibility of her singing the theme song with Susumu as the producer of the whole score and the theme song.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DaBakerMann on September 16, 2011, 12:09:33 AM
Well does this piece of info confirm that at least Hirasawa is writing the theme? http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=122
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 16, 2011, 12:15:24 AM
Well does this piece of info confirm that at least Hirasawa is writing the theme? http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=122
Oh HOLY SHIT. Translation plz.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on September 16, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
At least in the Animenewsnetwork there's Susumu noted as the man for the music.  :daiba: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=12397
And i still see the possibility of her singing the theme song with Susumu as the producer of the whole score and the theme song.
Well, in the Staff's Page there is his name:
http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/staff.html (http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/staff.html)
平沢進
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on September 16, 2011, 12:39:11 AM
Well does this piece of info confirm that at least Hirasawa is writing the theme? http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=122

Bad translation:

Quote
Music staff determines! Mr. Susumu Hirasawa theme song, poetry 鷺巣 Akira music! !
Music staff finally decided!
Susumu Hirasawa said the theme song, we decided to charge Mr. Shiro鷺巣poetry and music.
Mr. Hirasawa was broadcast in 1997 TV anime "Berserk Wind Sword Legend"中歌responsible for any drama.
Mr.鷺巣the one in "Neon Genesis re Won the New Century" and "BLEACH" in addition to, and support the Japanese music scene for over 30 years, such as providing music artists a number of visualizing a true world of Berserk become worthy of his wife and gorgeous! ! ● Mr. Susumu Hirasawa Comment world of Berserk is in the dark jigsaw puzzle was kind of paved the base of my daily creative activities, we share a lot of pieces. So I without changing any of the creative attitude, can work as a composer in his own face. This is a very lucky thing. Thanks to the teachers and all interested parties have hired me again下Satta Miura. Akira Comments ● poetry鷺巣 grand nor write, "Berserk" and we'll be in charge of music, dark fantasy lovers, we experience the fulfillment濃密Naru than ever. So many battles, even against themselves (the will) in the heart dictates, and even as the music is played and the original director迫Rubeku in philosophy, always aiming at heights, we strive? ! Staff Pages ▼
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on September 16, 2011, 12:55:01 AM
From the Twitter page of Clara de Porras:
Quote
Much-awaited…the names of the music composers are released!
Theme song by: Susumu Hirasawa, Music by: Shiro Sagisu.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 16, 2011, 01:09:16 AM
I am a happy, happy man.  :guts: :serpico: :carcus:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 16, 2011, 01:19:30 AM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: thedigitalsin on September 16, 2011, 01:55:36 AM
Susumu Hirasawa AND the composer of Evangelion?  Awesome.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 16, 2011, 01:57:43 AM
Sounds good, I'm happy Hirasawa is indeed involved, it's only fitting that he should get the theme song.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 16, 2011, 02:01:59 AM
Fitting, since Poledouris wrote the music for proto-Berserk influence Flesh + Blood. :carcus:

Anyway, nice, the opening brought the Conan theme to mind, which I think is a given since it always sets the right tone, though the staccato wind music from 1:30 to 2:15 is a bit challenging for this sort of music (though when I imagine blood spraying mayhem it works =), and other than the following quiet part and the return the the rest sort of reminds me of a blown out orchestral version of Sign of Evil from the Doom soundtrack.

Wow Griff, wasn't expecting such an in-depth analysis. Thank you :)
The staccato section would probably work best on a Alien movie, not a medieval fantasy one. The melodic quiet middle section was the one that gave me the most pleasure to make. The low brass note that comes at 2:45 to disrupt the melody into a more serious tone is my favorite.

As for what really matters, i couldn't be more happy with the news! :guts: Well, yes i could, if Susumu did the whole soundtrack. As it is, it's still awesome news! Something in the vein of Forces (1 and 2), Sign or Indra would be amazing. But i pretty much worship everything he does, from Mandrake to P-Model to his solo stuff and every OST he did.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 16, 2011, 07:30:46 AM
Today i was toying around with soundtrack type sounds (horns and percussion), just to relax from my other stuff. So i'll be presenting my unofficial proposition for stock Berserk medieval music, recorded live. The name was the first thing that came to my mind.
Obvious Poledouris influences :P

http://soundcloud.com/migueldevoid/hans-gruber-lives

Not half-bad. Why not give it a serious shot? Make a full soundtrack and post it in Creation Station. :slan:

I can't help it at this point!!!  Aaz, I wasn't able to click on the link when the article was up, but was it an article SOLELY to announce Susumu, or was it an article about various things?  I ask, because if it was an article that talked about a few things Berserk, then having the entire article removed would suggest Susumu IS really doing some music for it, and it was leaked information.  Because otherwise, they would have just corrected that section of the article to read Tomo the Tomo instead.  No?

Sorry I wasn't able to reply sooner. It was basically the same announcement that's now on the official website, revealing that Shirô Sagisu is doing the music and that Susumu Hirasawa is doing the main theme.

BAH! That's a let down for me.  Although Dragon's Dogma looks to be awesome game (lots of hype about it on the video game blogs), I was really hoping for a full fledged Berserk game.  I guess, too good to be true at this point!

Yeah, a full fledged Berserk game would have been nice, but that would have likely been an announcement on its own. Like Walter pointed out yesterday, the fact it was announced by Clara already implied it would be a tie-in to the movie and not a bigger project.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on September 16, 2011, 11:59:33 AM
Awesome news! :ubik: Shiro Sagisu is one of my favorite composers (the music he wrote for the Evangelion Rebuild movies is amazing) and it's great to hear that Susumu Hirasawa is involved in the project!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on September 16, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
I'll allow myself to take for granted that the music for the movie will be awesome  :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on September 16, 2011, 01:38:20 PM
Frackin awesome, this's good news indeed!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 16, 2011, 04:46:00 PM
Frackin awesome, this's good news indeed!

It's spelled FRAKKIN', and YES, IT IS FRAKKIN' AWESOME!!!!!!! :guts: :serpico: :carcus:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: CCS on September 16, 2011, 11:55:58 PM
Freaking awesome. I am very very happy Susumu is doing the theme. That's great.
Very excited.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 17, 2011, 04:55:06 AM
http://twitpic.com/6m25g7

Look at the time on that screen. Also, what are they doing in there?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 17, 2011, 05:20:14 AM
Look at the time on that screen.

Good observation!  Although, if that really is timecode from the movie, lots of movies start timecode at the 01:00:00:00 mark, in which case the timecode in the picture doesn't mean much.

Man I can't wait for the new CM!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 17, 2011, 05:44:30 AM
http://twitpic.com/6m25g7

Look at the time on that screen.
Really, this isn't significant at all. It could mean anything. Those timecodes are normally still attached before the final editing process. If you want a hilarious example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OGSRT5s2W0

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Also, what are they doing in there?
Unsure, but Clara said earlier that they're conducting interviews today, likely with the press. But later... she posted this picture: http://twitpic.com/6m2z13 with the three main cast members. So maybe that meeting is regarding dubbing work.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 17, 2011, 10:16:48 AM
Aw poop. My bad.

Now I'm trying to make out the image on the TV screen. And failing.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 17, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
Clara's coverage of the ADR is online: http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=135 (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=135)

And where are the guys who were complaining that the DS replica was too small?

(http://www.berserkfilm.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/S0917_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 17, 2011, 02:38:08 PM
I am curious about what her coverage says. The rough translations mention "10 year project". Does that mean it's been 10 years since the last anime project? (despite being closer to 15) or are they suggesting they expect this project to go on for 10 years?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on September 17, 2011, 03:09:13 PM
or are they suggesting they expect this project to go on for 10 years?
This.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on September 17, 2011, 08:52:50 PM
I didn't think about it before, but if they are to achieve their goal and adapt the entire series faithfully the VA for Guts has his work cut out for him over the next decade or so. Casca and Griffith's VA's are really only bogged down during the Golden Age movies, but Guts is consistent throughout. The scope of the project must be pretty intimidating.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 17, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
I didn't think about it before, but if they are to achieve their goal and adapt the entire series faithfully the VA for Guts has his work cut out for him over the next decade or so. Casca and Griffith's VA's are really only bogged down during the Golden Age movies, but Guts is consistent throughout. The scope of the project must be pretty intimidating.
I always wondered what Femto's voice sounds like. I mean, in full-on God Hand demon form. Obviously, it's something different than Griffith's human voice.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 18, 2011, 02:24:04 PM
The new CM will air this week on TV. It only contains never-seen-before footage apparently. It'll have two different patterns (「キス ・キス 」 & 「それどころじゃねえ」). We'll get more info later.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 18, 2011, 03:25:41 PM
Fantastic, thanks for the updates Aaz. It's the week a lot of us have been looking forward to with a new episode, volume and trailer. I can't wait  :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 19, 2011, 06:48:11 PM
The new CM will air this week on TV. It only contains never-seen-before footage apparently. It'll have two different patterns (「キス ・キス 」 & 「それどころじゃねえ」). We'll get more info later.

I don't want to be greedy, but I hope it's longer than 15 seconds!!!  And I hope we hear a different song than the one in the first 5 CMs.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on September 20, 2011, 03:34:34 AM
I hope we get a full fledged trailer featuring Susumu Hirasawa's main theme to Berserk soon! altough i doubt it will be this upcoming trailer since it sounds like susumu just jumped on the project. (unless he was secretly working on it.)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 21, 2011, 09:12:09 AM
The berserk_project twitter has been tweeting lots of stuff.  Looks like we will start seeing trailers tonight and for the next few days! Edit: Oops, I misread a little, it looks like when they said Sept 22nd 24:00, it means Sept 23rd 0:00, meaning it won't air til tomorrow morning for us (11am EST).  I can't tell if it'll be the same trailer each night, or new ones each time (like the first 5 CMs).

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berserk_project ベルセルク公式ツイッター
今回のCMでは、ガッツ・グリフィス・キャスカの声が初登場!! 声優名の発表されていないシャルロットも登場です!! 喋ってる台詞は、映画の中のセリフではなく、CM用のセリフを録らせていただきました。
2 hours ago

berserk_project ベルセルク公式ツイッター
[拡散希望]ベルセルク35巻のTVCMの放送日と放送局です。スタートは9月22日の24:00~27:00の間で、5日間ぐらい連続で、大体日に4~5本かかります。放送局はフジテレビ・東海テレビ・読売テレビ。WEBでは、23日の11:00より公式サイトでアップします。(続く)

Roughly translated to:
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Berserk official Twitter berserk_project
[Wish Diffusion] The station broadcast day TVCM Berserk volume 35. Start between 24:00 - 27:00 on September 22, about five days in a row, this will take about 4-5 days. Tokai TV broadcaster Fuji Television Yomiuri TV. In the WEB, the official website up at 11:00 on Friday.
The CM of this, the first appearance of the Guts Griffith Kyasuka voice! ! Introducing Charlotte is not even announced the name of the actor! ! Words I speak, not in the movie dialogue, we have recorded these words for the CM.

And a teaser image!
(http://p.twipple.jp/data/V/U/z/W/v_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 21, 2011, 11:32:13 AM
That is a nice image. She's looking great there.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 21, 2011, 12:06:50 PM
I can't tell if it'll be the same trailer each night, or new ones each time (like the first 5 CMs).

There are 2 different versions, like I said a few days ago.

Anyway, another picture: http://ow.ly/i/hIvm (http://ow.ly/i/hIvm)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 21, 2011, 12:40:22 PM
(http://skullknight.net/images/cm6preview2.jpg)

Like Clara hinted at before, one of the CMs will show off the waterfall scene. Very nice!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Madam President on September 21, 2011, 02:34:58 PM
(http://skullknight.net/images/cm6preview2.jpg)

Like Clara hinted at before, one of the CMs will show off the waterfall scene. Very nice!


HNNNGYAHHHHHHH! THE SCREEN SHOT AND COVER TO VOLUME 36 MAKES ME FEEL SPECIAL! :badbone: (Seriously, that would make one sweet poster).

My God, I am stoked for this!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on September 21, 2011, 02:46:42 PM
Those new shots look really good, the artwork for Casca looks really nice.

Most importantly, am I right in saying that it looks like Guts is wearing the correct wardrobe in that shot? I can't completely tell, but I think he is, in which case I am extremely relieved.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: yynderjohn on September 21, 2011, 03:26:56 PM
So excited!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 21, 2011, 07:02:02 PM
(http://p.twipple.jp/data/V/U/z/W/v_m.jpg)

I can hear her yell "kisama no seida" already. :iva:

Most importantly, am I right in saying that it looks like Guts is wearing the correct wardrobe in that shot?

Seems so, but it's hard to tell with all the text in front of it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aphasia on September 21, 2011, 08:29:42 PM
It's a great time to be a Berserk fan.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 22, 2011, 04:43:11 AM
The wraparound advertisement on volume 36 will feature images of the upcoming film, including the King and Charlotte: http://twitpic.com/6ol1m1
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on September 22, 2011, 05:13:51 AM
Nice! There Julius too if i'm not wrong.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 22, 2011, 05:25:35 AM
The wraparound advertisement on volume 36 will feature images of the upcoming film, including the King and Charlotte: http://twitpic.com/6ol1m1

OOoooh nice!  Charlotte actually looks pretty purdy!  I'm diggin those shots!

It's a great time to be a Berserk fan.

Hell yeah it is! :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on September 22, 2011, 05:31:22 AM
Thanks Walter! Even with these amount of exposure so far, I'm getting more excited by the day as it gets closer to the release date .
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 22, 2011, 05:49:48 AM
These images look great.

Though, was Casca wearing her helmet during the IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT scene? Not a big deal to me, 'cause that face is really expressive and well drawn in that new animation shot.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: kaimera on September 22, 2011, 07:09:40 AM
Though, was Casca wearing her helmet during the IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT scene? Not a big deal to me, 'cause that face is really expressive and well drawn in that new animation shot.

Nope she wasn't wearing her helmet in this scene in the manga. But looks like they captured the mood of that scene anyways.
The second last picture, does anyone know from where it is? Looks like the field before the eclipse, but i'm not sure.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 22, 2011, 07:25:28 AM
First film picture of our favorite pony-tail wearing emo kid!  :judo: http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org2053738.jpg
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on September 22, 2011, 07:52:18 AM
The characters on the Judeau pic look unusual  :troll:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 22, 2011, 08:05:21 AM
First film picture of our favorite pony-tail wearing emo kid!  :judo: http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org2053738.jpg

Well I for one think Judo's looking quite handsome! =)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on September 22, 2011, 08:15:58 AM
Well I for one think Judo's looking quite handsome! =)

I agree, just need the freckles, unless I didn't see them.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on September 22, 2011, 12:58:15 PM
Well the new images look stunning..! Can't wait to see a fully fledged 1 or 2 minutes HD trailer with Susumu's theme song pumping at max volume  :beast:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 22, 2011, 01:27:25 PM
What's with all the frowning lips?  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 22, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
Can't wait to see a fully fledged 1 or 2 minutes HD trailer with Susumu's theme song pumping at max volume  :beast:

Well unfortunately for you, the new CMs' music won't be from Hirasawa Susumu or Sagisu Shirô.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 22, 2011, 04:13:44 PM
First film picture of our favorite pony-tail wearing emo kid!  :judo: http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org2053738.jpg

I didn't know Serpico was in Golden Age! :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 22, 2011, 04:32:13 PM
I didn't know Serpico was in Golden Age! :serpico:

I didn't know Serpico had a ponytail  :iva:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 22, 2011, 05:12:05 PM
Well it should have aired in Japan already!!!  Still no rips have popped up on the internet yet.  However, at 10pm EST TODAY, it will be on the younganimal and berserkfilm website!  So 8 more hours folks.  8 more hours!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 22, 2011, 05:13:55 PM
Well it should have aired in Japan already!!!  Still no rips have popped up on the internet yet.  However, at 10pm EST TODAY, it will be on the younganimal and berserkfilm website!  So 8 more hours folks.  8 more hours!!!

Give it time and have faith
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aphasia on September 22, 2011, 05:27:09 PM
Judo is lookin' good!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 22, 2011, 05:36:28 PM
Well it should have aired in Japan already!!!  Still no rips have popped up on the internet yet.  However, at 10pm EST TODAY, it will be on the younganimal and berserkfilm website!  So 8 more hours folks.  8 more hours!!!
I don't think it's aired yet? According to berserk_project's latest tweet, it doesn't air until 11 am over there, so 7.5 more hours.

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ありがとうございます。かっこいいんです!! RT @aya_jigenn: やばい! かっこいい! @berserk_project: ベルセルクのTVCMは、明日の11:00より、ベルセルク映画公式サイトでも公開します。よろしくお願いします!! berserkfilm.com
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 22, 2011, 05:46:40 PM
I don't think it's aired yet? According to berserk_project's latest tweet, it doesn't air until 11 am over there, so 7.5 more hours.

Hey Walt.  No, I do believe it has aired already.  That tweet you quoted is saying that it will be on the official website at 11am over there (which is 10pm here in the US, EST, so 7.5 hours from now), but previous tweets have mentioned it will air at midnight on the 22nd (which was several hours ago).

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berserk_project ベルセルク公式ツイッター
昨日の情報と重複しますがもう一度。ベルセルク35巻のCMの放送日と放送局です。スタートは9月22日の24:00~27:00の間で、5日間ぐらい連続で、大体日に4~5本かかります。放送局はフジテレビ・東海テレビ・読売テレビ。WEBでは、23日の11:00より公式サイトでアップ。
15 hours ago

Anyways, it's confusing, with google translate.  I can't be sure either way.  Anyways, whatever it may be, gratification will arrive shortly!!! :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on September 22, 2011, 05:57:06 PM
What's with all the frowning lips?  :ganishka:
That still of Guts isn't very flattering! The rest looks cool obviously ^_^

Oh noez, I'll be out for dinner when those early CM rips surface *bangs office keyboard*. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 22, 2011, 05:57:41 PM
Hey Walt.  No, I do believe it has aired already.  That tweet you quoted is saying that it will be on the official website at 11am over there (which is 10pm here in the US, EST, so 7.5 hours from now), but previous tweets have mentioned it will air at midnight on the 22nd (which was several hours ago).

That's how I read it too. Between "24:00 (midnight) and 27:00 (I assume this is 3am)"?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 23, 2011, 01:03:18 AM
THEY ARE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Kiss"
This one is pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF2GaxlyNvk

"Special"
THIS ONE ROCKS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POaFuuuwgV4

- Guts's voice in "Special" sounds pretty good to me.  I'm happy with it thus far! :guts:
- Casca's voice in "Special" also sounds pretty good.  Has decent presence.  Not too high or whiny.  She sounded a bit weird in the "Kiss" commercial though, but maybe because the editing made it so abrupt, and that is a pretty emotional scene right there...
- Charlotte's voice is annoying as heck, but well, I guess it's kinda fitting. =P

I love the swing Guts takes when he jumps into the air at 10 seconds.  The double action with Guts/Griffith during the Zodd fight also looks promising.  That was one of my fav eps in the first anime, looks like it's still gonna be pretty awesome in the new one!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 23, 2011, 01:08:00 AM
I LOVE ... I LOVE BERSERK!!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on September 23, 2011, 01:25:50 AM
Goddamn this is cool  :carcus:

The voices are refreshing! I also can't help but love the CG parts. It would be cool to have a montage with all the footage we've seen so far. Griffith, maybe you can give it a go? You got good skills in that department  :slan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: thedigitalsin on September 23, 2011, 01:28:47 AM
THEY ARE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=181

this one is pretty cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF2GaxlyNvk

THIS ONE ROCKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POaFuuuwgV4

More or less what's being said:

Clip 1
Charlotte: I love it...I truly love it...
Casca: I love...I love Berserk!
Announcer: The newest volume of the critically acclaimed Berserk series is now on sale.  And there's a movie coming soon!

Clip 2
Casca: This is bad!
Guts: What's wrong?
Griffith: What's wrong?
Announcer: The newest volume of the critically acclaimed Berserk series is now on sale. 
Griffith/Guts: That's no problem at all!
Announcer: And there's a movie coming soon!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 23, 2011, 01:36:25 AM
Thanks for the translation thedigitalsin!  Why is Casca saying she loves Berserk, though?

Too bad they uploaded this at only 360p.  I mean, since this is TV, we can assume standard def.  But at least 480p would have been nice!  Ah well.  now I guess we have to wait another 2 months before new footage, lol!

I'm happy for now though!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 23, 2011, 01:40:34 AM
That kiss one is... uh.... ugh. I enjoyed the "special" one though. But the way they're treating the action sequences sort of reminds me of a Zack Snyder movie, and that sort of scares me.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: thedigitalsin on September 23, 2011, 01:44:28 AM
Thanks for the translation thedigitalsin!  Why is Casca saying she loves Berserk, though?

Too bad they uploaded this at only 360p.  I mean, since this is TV, we can assume standard def.  But at least 480p would have been nice!  Ah well.  now I guess we have to wait another 2 months before new footage, lol!

I'm happy for now though!

The commercials are cross promotion of the manga and the films.  Since vol. 36 is out, the film dialogue was dubbed over to hype that up.  It was done in a hammy way; couple that with the lines used and it's more or less guaranteed that none of the lines used in these clips will appear in the films. 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on September 23, 2011, 02:13:07 AM
Great stuff, thanks for posting and the translations! Running back quick definitely paid off :guts:

On the 'Special', at 0:07 - it kiiiiiiiiinda looks like that purple haze picture of Guts standing in front of SK without his shirt that's on the official website banner. At the beginning of the clip, Guts has his helmet on, but he doesn't in the manga. Griffith appears with his helmet on in the clip in both scenes, but he doesn't in the manga.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Skeleton on September 23, 2011, 02:25:23 AM
That kiss one is... uh.... ugh. I enjoyed the "special" one though. But the way they're treating the action sequences sort of reminds me of a Zack Snyder movie, and that sort of scares me.

I feel the exact same way. :-/
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on September 23, 2011, 02:28:29 AM
That kiss one is... uh.... ugh.

Yeah, these were far more cheesy than I would have liked. Oh well.

But the way they're treating the action sequences sort of reminds me of a Zack Snyder movie, and that sort of scares me.

Well, we are seeing things move by pretty quickly. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Some dynamism in the action sequences should be expected, and as long as they're well done, I'll be okay with them. I don't think we'll stray into crappy territory akin to Snyder.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 23, 2011, 02:33:57 AM
On the 'Special', at 0:07 - it kiiiiiiiiinda looks like that purple haze picture of Guts standing in front of SK without his shirt that's on the official website banner.
Yes, it's pretty obvious due to the fog/purple/shirt off that that's the scene with SK.

I'd take some screencaps for comparison's sake, but the low (320p) resolution isn't really pretty when sized properly. I'd rather wait until a 720p clip surfaces. But maybe I'll get bored...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on September 23, 2011, 02:35:06 AM
Yes, it's pretty obvious due to the fog/purple/shirt off that that's the scene with SK.

Yep, that pretty much throws my stretch/theory of a photoshopped promotional image right out the window.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Dar Klink on September 23, 2011, 02:36:57 AM
Ooh man is it just me or did they fix ol' Zoddy's horns from that leaked shot? :zodd:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 23, 2011, 02:37:36 AM
I love the footage from these commercials a lot more than I like the silly audio. I don't think we're getting a good glimpse of what these VAs can do.

Ugh I'm still grumpy from losing that quiz. That cost me big time.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 23, 2011, 02:47:51 AM
CUZ WE ALL LOVE SUSUMU! =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPSVzMUZDc

Griff, you're up next. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 23, 2011, 02:52:24 AM
It would be cool to have a montage with all the footage we've seen so far. Griffith, maybe you can give it a go? You got good skills in that department  :slan:

I already did the editing on these new CMs. Couldn't you tell? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmsv6kFxUh4#t=7m15s) :troll:

Griff, you're up next. :griffnotevil:

I can't improve on perfection. :griffnotevil: Even musical enhancements aside, your version is way more effective than their edit. I mean, the point is to build excitement and anticipation, right? Not come to an abrupt stop and go like the video crashed.

So, yeah, the sound editing on these CMs was... unique...ly bad. I guess the stops and starts were supposed to draw attention to the ads we were seeing, but it just made the viewing experience more unpleasant than it should have been (along with some other odd choices, like naked Guts breathing). But, who cares about the quality of the commercials themselves? Most of the footage looked promising, the voices sounded fine, some of the CGI looked a little weird, and was I the only one that thought it sounded like Guts and Griffith had performed the fusion dance when they were simultaneously speaking during their attack on Zodd? =) Who, by the way, I'm guessing is going to have his fur skivvies from volume 22.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: slan69 on September 23, 2011, 02:55:52 AM
CUZ WE ALL LOVE SUSUMU! =)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkPSVzMUZDc

Griff, you're up next. :griffnotevil:

Much better. :ubik: I have to say though I'm not a fan of the new voice actors, and the characters so far look good but I think they could do a little better....... right?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 23, 2011, 03:03:52 AM
I got bored.

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm6-2.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm6-1.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm6-4.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm7-3.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm7-4.jpg)


(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm7-5.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm7-2.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm6-3.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm7-1.jpg)
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/cm7-6a.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Oburi on September 23, 2011, 03:07:47 AM

 But, who cares about the quality of the commercials themselves? Most of the footage looked promising, the voices sounded fine, some of the CGI looked a little weird, and was I the only one that thought it sounded like Guts and Griffith had performed the fusion dance when they were simultaneously speaking during their attack on Zodd? =) Who, by the way, I'm guessing is going to have his fur skivvies from volume 22.

Yea, the footage itself looked pretty cool. For the first time I can honestly say I'm enjoying the look of the animation for the most part. The commercials themselves were terrible with the stop. and. go. So thank you DK! That's what I'll be showing people!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 23, 2011, 03:09:23 AM
I got bored.

Woot!  Love scaps!  These are looking very nice!  Looking at the stills, the "Kiss" trailer actually had some beautiful shots.  Just the awkward editing and unrelated voice overs took away from it.  Thanks for uploading these!

So thank you DK! That's what I'll be showing people!

Hahaha, FO SHO! :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 23, 2011, 03:28:16 AM
I agree with what's been said so far, the editing and voice overs are a bit of a let down (but I believe the voices will fit their characters) and the footage itself is looking good.

I think the close up and slow moving shots of the characters look fantastic, but the fast moving action seems to make some odd angle choices and doesn't 'quite' live up to the quality of the rest of it, due to the CG. Still, at least we're going to get fully animated action sequences this time around and not a load of shouting and grunts over a static shot.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 23, 2011, 04:01:49 AM
I can't improve on perfection. :griffnotevil:

ACTUALLY!  It's possible!  Cuz everything's a little bit more perfect when SKULLKNIGHT is involved!!! :SK:

Version 2!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X60V733uqDM
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on September 23, 2011, 04:09:44 AM
Goddamn, Version 2 is kickass! :SK:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on September 23, 2011, 04:11:06 AM
I love your video, man.

...I just noticed, Bazuso isn't fat enough.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 23, 2011, 04:12:12 AM
ACTUALLY!  It's possible!  Cuz everything's a little bit more perfect when SKULLKNIGHT is involved!!! :SK:

Version 2!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X60V733uqDM
Studio 4C, give this man a job! Such a huge improvement... Great work, DK!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on September 23, 2011, 06:00:10 AM
I added version 2 to my favorites :3

I'll be showing it to my buddys who've only watched the anime. :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 23, 2011, 08:54:58 AM
- Guts's voice in "Special" sounds pretty good to me.  I'm happy with it thus far! :guts:
- Casca's voice in "Special" also sounds pretty good.  Has decent presence.  Not too high or whiny.  She sounded a bit weird in the "Kiss" commercial though, but maybe because the editing made it so abrupt, and that is a pretty emotional scene right there...
- Charlotte's voice is annoying as heck, but well, I guess it's kinda fitting. =P

Agreed. I like Guts and Casca's voices so far. The editing for the 2 CMs is pretty bad and what they went for (comedic effect, the whole thing's just missing a "record scratch" sound effect to top it off) isn't necessarily very pertinent, but the footage itself was nice enough.

I also can't help but love the CG parts.

The soldiers on horseback at the end of the "Kiss Kiss" CM don't look so hot to me. Kind of reminded me of a Fire Emblem attack sequence at first glance.

Thanks for the translation thedigitalsin!  Why is Casca saying she loves Berserk, though?
The commercials are cross promotion of the manga and the films.  Since vol. 36 is out, the film dialogue was dubbed over to hype that up.  It was done in a hammy way; couple that with the lines used and it's more or less guaranteed that none of the lines used in these clips will appear in the films.

Yeah, I didn't post about it but they'd announced on Twitter that the lines had been recorded specifically for the CMs. They're obviously not going to be in the movie.

Ooh man is it just me or did they fix ol' Zoddy's horns from that leaked shot? :zodd:

Looks like it! That's reassuring. Hopefully all those kinks will be worked out by the time the film is released.

Who, by the way, I'm guessing is going to have his fur skivvies from volume 22.

From the little footage we have, it seems they might also just try to keep his manly parts in the shadows for the duration of the fight. It would be more difficult, obviously, but approved by myself!

ACTUALLY!  It's possible!  Cuz everything's a little bit more perfect when SKULLKNIGHT is involved!!! :SK:

Version 2!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X60V733uqDM

Hehe, that's mah man! Walter's right, these guys should totally hire you. :casca:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on September 23, 2011, 03:35:03 PM
I think it looks/sounds pretty embarrassing. Not really enjoying it at all. Too clean. Unconvincing CG. Why the silly voice acting?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on September 23, 2011, 05:09:43 PM
I think parts of it looked really cool, and I'm really glad to see them staying faithful with certain details (like Guts wearing the right armor,) but I have to say, again, that the CG looks bad. And there aren't too many things worse and more distracting than bad CGI, just ask Lost.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 23, 2011, 05:40:28 PM
I think it looks/sounds pretty embarrassing. Not really enjoying it at all. Too clean. Unconvincing CG.

but I have to say, again, that the CG looks bad. And there aren't too many things worse and more distracting than bad CGI, just ask Lost.

Just curious, what's bad about the CG?  To me, the only clip that stood out to me was the horse riding scene at the end of the "Kiss" video.  Other than that, I thought everything look fantastic.  Maybe I don't have the eye for it, though.

Why the silly voice acting?

I think we all agree the "Kiss" voice acting was pretty bad.  Luckily, those were just voice overs done for the ad.  Yes, they were by the actual voice actors but they weren't in context.  When I saw Casca shouting at Guts in the waterfall scene, saying "something something BERSERK", I was thinking, what da heck?  But thedigitalsin pointed out that she was saying "I love Berserk", which is pretty hilarious.  Anyways, point being, I don't think we can take much from these CMs about the voice actors.  I do think Guts sounded good though, and judging by this CM, if no one had told me the original Guts voice actor had left, I would have believed it was the same guy.

Studio 4C, give this man a job! Such a huge improvement... Great work, DK!

Hehe, that's mah man! Walter's right, these guys should totally hire you. :casca:

OMG that would be a dream come true!!!  I'd move to Japan in an instant!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 23, 2011, 06:06:20 PM
I do think Guts sounded good though, and judging by this CM, if no one had told me the original Guts voice actor had left, I would have believed it was the same guy.

Yeah they sound a lot like each other to me, which I don't mind at all as I always liked the original VA.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on September 23, 2011, 06:22:46 PM
Just curious, what's bad about the CG?  To me, the only clip that stood out to me was the horse riding scene at the end of the "Kiss" video.  Other than that, I thought everything look fantastic.  Maybe I don't have the eye for it, though.
I don't know, it just stands out to me too much, it reminds me of an anime-style video game. Though the more I watch it the less I notice it and the better it looks, so I probably just need to get used to it. I'm still completely optimistic that the finished product will look great.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on September 23, 2011, 08:26:18 PM
I said earlier that I liked the CG. The reason : its so fluid and technicaly malleable. There's no other way they could have animated such huge armies (there are a lot of them in Berserk). So we have to cope with it. I prefer having computer animated soldiers than boring still shots in a movie. I think they did a good job blending the CG with the hand-drawn elements. I also believe it will greatly enhance the fight scenes. Even with so little footage, I'm already used to it.
 
I have to say at first that my expectations were really low, so I guess I'm pleasantly surprised. I'm sure that its going to be awesome to see in HD.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on September 23, 2011, 10:44:53 PM
I like CG in new trailers. Some pplz dont like cg, va, but please stop be so greedy!  There's nothing perfect in this world
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on September 23, 2011, 10:59:11 PM
Although I'm not particularly impressed with such extremely short TV spots overall, they have given me some glimmer of hope for the upcoming movie. Accurate animated rendition of Zodd's horns aside, I'm also quite happy  with the way Studio 4°C handled Casca in the new CMs. Casca's face and features are more closer and accurate to her manga counterpart than they were in any previous promo shots, the one from that Newtype poster in particular. 

There's no other way they could have animated such huge armies (there are a lot of them in Berserk).

To be more correct - there's no other way they could've animated such huge armies cheaply and expediently, with a shoestring budget.

So we have to cope with it. 

Perhaps the voice acting and musical score are gonna be so top notch, that it just might outweigh the movie's CGI animated shortcomings. Heck, if that happens, I may even watch (and enjoy) the Egg of the Supreme King while wearing very dark-blue tinted sunglasses so that an occasional visual/continuity error or any poorly done CG effect or two will not be as noticeable to my eyes  :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Eddie on September 24, 2011, 02:09:53 AM
Just picked up vol. 36 in Tokyo yesterday and saw the small ad for this, I'm really glad I'll be in Japan when this comes out. Does anyone know if any websites have a list of what theaters it will be playing in?

Hi again everyone.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 24, 2011, 02:27:58 AM
Just picked up vol. 36 in Tokyo yesterday and saw the small ad for this, I'm really glad I'll be in Japan when this comes out. Does anyone know if any websites have a list of what theaters it will be playing in?

Um... consider me JEALOUS!!!  That's awesome Eddie!  Maybe a should plan a trip in January too.  Only problem is I'll have to learn the language in 3 months if I want to get the most out of the movie. =P

And no, I doubt any websites have shown a listing of theaters yet.  I'm sure if you're in any of the big cities you'll have no problems finding a showing.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on September 24, 2011, 11:58:21 AM
Fell asleep last night while uploading these pics.

The YA issue with episode 325 had these color pages with movie news -

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8448-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8449-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8452-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8455-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8457-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8458-1.jpg)

Who's the person in the last picture? Interesting to see Hirasawa, I wonder what his comment says!

Here's pictures of the promo sleeve off Vol 36 with movie news -

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8438-1-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8439-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8441-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8443-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8445-1.jpg)

Don't know what any of that says, but that snap-shot of hard-working Miura is cute.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on September 24, 2011, 12:44:35 PM
Who's the person in the last picture?
Shiro Sagisu
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Bramwell on September 24, 2011, 12:47:01 PM
I think the cg is better than just the static action shots of the old anime, with people chanting " yaarrr yarrr!"

BTW hi everyone! this is my first post here  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 24, 2011, 12:48:53 PM
To be more correct - there's no other way they could've animated such huge armies cheaply and expediently, with a shoestring budget.

You don't know what the budget is, so don't call it "shoestring". Yeah, we'd all like this to be the biggest animation project ever attempted by anyone, but at some point you have to stop ranting and face reality, especially given the amount of material there is to animate.

Who's the person in the last picture?

Sagisu Shirô, the man composing the soundtrack.

Don't know what any of that says, but that snap-shot of hard-working Miura is cute.

That's from volume 32's dust jacket. It's a reference to the battle that took place in Vritannis, specifically to the "rain of arrows" that the huge Kushan army unleashed on the Holy See alliance. Drawing all those soldiers was quite laborious at the time.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 24, 2011, 01:49:39 PM
Great stuff  :serpico: One thing I do like is the use of lighting in what we've seen so far. That image of Griffith makes me appreciate the extra effort they're going to for the lighting. I know it's not favored by everyone but light blooming effects such as the duel between Guts and Griffith and the scene with Zodd make me appreciate the extra effort they've put in, it compliments some of the CG scenes quite nicely..
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on September 24, 2011, 02:20:13 PM
That image of Griffith makes me appreciate the extra effort they're going to for the lighting. I know it's not favored by everyone but light blooming effects ...
Are we sure that's not just IncantatioN's camera flash?  :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 24, 2011, 02:36:36 PM
For this image?

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8449-1.jpg)

It doesn't appear to be from what I can see.

EDIT: But then, looking at the smaller image, it doesn't look as pronounced.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on September 24, 2011, 02:49:58 PM
My bad guys ... sorry for that, I didn't upload the picture I took without Flash because the one with looked sharper to my sleepyhead this morning. Here's the one I took without -

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8451-1.jpg)

And this other panel without Flash -

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8456-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 24, 2011, 02:56:28 PM
My bad guys ... sorry for that

You have no reason to apologise. I'm just grateful you uploaded pictures at all.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jaNSENN on September 24, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
the new CMs and pics are better than the first trailer imo, gives me hope that the cg will be bearable.

first post btw, hi@  :daiba:.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 24, 2011, 03:35:01 PM
Sagisu Shirô, the man composing the soundtrack.

It completely slipped my mind that this man was responsible for the Casshern soundtrack (some of which is shared with Bleach). But this has just made me really excited as I love the sounds in this film and I have complete faith he will do Berserk justice with Hirasawa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi1M84pfhfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExTsYH0sDLc
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on September 24, 2011, 03:49:20 PM
It's amazing what that flash did for that picture of Griffith holding open the tent flap (?). With it I had thought it may have been taking place around the time him and Guts took a bath together. Don't ask me why, I just thought it was around that time. And now without the flash I can see it takes place somewhere entirely different. Seems to be when Guts first woke up after his first fight with Griffith. I'm used to seeing camera flashes cover people's faces, not blend in with the sky. Very sneaky!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 24, 2011, 04:30:18 PM
Griffith holding open the tent flap (?).

He's holding Guts' sword. :slan:

Anyway, welcome to all newcomers. Sorry for the registration delay, we're getting a lot of spam these days and it slows the process down.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on September 24, 2011, 06:30:05 PM
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8452-1.jpg)
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/IMG_8451-1.jpg)

Thanks for the pictures buddy!  I'm liking these two shots a lot.  From these screenshots and from the TVCMs and previous movie trailer, I think Studio 4C is doing a great job with the environments.  Lots of detail and colors.  All very easy on the eyes for me. =)

It completely slipped my mind that this man was responsible for the Casshern soundtrack (some of which is shared with Bleach). But this has just made me really excited as I love the sounds in this film and I have complete faith he will do Berserk justice with Hirasawa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi1M84pfhfc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExTsYH0sDLc

Shiro Sagisu looks like a rockstar, btw. And thanks for the links JezzaX.  Hmm... it's hard to tell from just these two songs.  I'm not too happy with the sound samples he used in these two songs.  Sound a bit too synthy for me.  Granted, Hirasawa uses a ton of synth too, but in a different way.  Hirasawa creates a beautiful balance of electronica in a natural organic space.  Definitely no other style quite like Hirasawa's.  Anyways, I'm not hating on Sagisu by any means.  Every project is different, and maybe those two tracks fit Casshern perfectly.  I doubt that Sagisu will try to mimic Hirasawa's style for Berserk.  That would be silly.  I'm sure Sagisu is going to compose a soundtrack how he sees Berserk.  (I wonder if he's a fan?  That would be extra bonus points if he is.)  I'm just hoping it doesn't sound generic.  The music in the TVCM and trailers sound like good epic music and all, but a bit on the generic side.  I'm hoping for something a bit more.

On a side note, in a movie's sense (compared to a tv sense), when they say Hirasawa is doing the theme song, I believe it'll be more than just the song that plays during the ending credits.  It could easily mean that his song will play out during the movie itself too.  In fact, we may hear his theme in many different renditions throughout the movie and it may be absolutely wonderful.  At least, that is my hope anyway!

Oh!  And I wonder if Hirasawa will do one theme per movie, hehehehe.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on September 24, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
Shiro Sagisu looks like a rockstar, btw. And thanks for the links JezzaX.  Hmm... it's hard to tell from just these two songs.  I'm not too happy with the sound samples he used in these two songs.  Sound a bit too synthy for me.  Granted, Hirasawa uses a ton of synth too, but in a different way.  Hirasawa creates a beautiful balance of electronica in a natural organic space.  Definitely no other style quite like Hirasawa's.  Anyways, I'm not hating on Sagisu by any means.  Every project is different, and maybe those two tracks fit Casshern perfectly.  I doubt that Sagisu will try to mimic Hirasawa's style for Berserk.  That would be silly.  I'm sure Sagisu is going to compose a soundtrack how he sees Berserk.  (I wonder if he's a fan?  That would be extra bonus points if he is.)  I'm just hoping it doesn't sound generic.  The music in the TVCM and trailers sound like good epic music and all, but a bit on the generic side.  I'm hoping for something a bit more.

On a side note, in a movie's sense (compared to a tv sense), when they say Hirasawa is doing the theme song, I believe it'll be more than just the song that plays during the ending credits.  It could easily mean that his song will play out during the movie itself too.  In fact, we may hear his theme in many different renditions throughout the movie and it may be absolutely wonderful.  At least, that is my hope anyway!

Oh!  And I wonder if Hirasawa will do one theme per movie, hehehehe.

I'd love for Hirasawa to make multiple songs, but I'm not getting my hopes up and I'm expecting he will be contribute in a similar way to the PS2 game.

As for the links I sent you, I can understand what you mean for some of it, but you can't deny the emotions emitted in the latter half of the second one I posted. I also seem to imagine Guts' running scene after the eclipse when I listen to this one too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5CUVU2DKvU&feature=related it just fits in my head.

Either way, I reckon both Hirasawa and Sagisu will collaborate to make something original and fitting to Berserk like you say. I think they picked the right composers for the project.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 24, 2011, 07:57:08 PM
Anyways, I'm not hating on Sagisu by any means.  Every project is different, and maybe those two tracks fit Casshern perfectly.

Casshern is a science-fiction story, so the music sounding "synthy" is kind of par for the course.

The music in the TVCM and trailers sound like good epic music and all, but a bit on the generic side.  I'm hoping for something a bit more.
the new CMs' music won't be from Hirasawa Susumu or Sagisu Shirô.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on September 24, 2011, 08:26:39 PM
I'm really impressed by the new still images, particularly Charlotte and the King. They look spot on, and what the backgrounds lack in accuracy they make up for with beauty at least, especially the shot of Griffith holding Guts' sword.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 28, 2011, 12:36:53 PM
http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=191 (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=191)

There's a "Berserk public commemorative display" that will take place at a festival held in Tokyo (in the Kichijoji PARCO mall to be precise) from October 1st to October 10th. Their life-size replica of the Dragon Slayer will be there.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Bramwell on September 29, 2011, 05:22:03 PM
Am i the only person who has never been able to get onto berserkfilm? I live in the uk and other japanese websites work fine.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 29, 2011, 05:29:05 PM
Am i the only person who has never been able to get onto berserkfilm? I live in the uk and other japanese websites work fine.

What prevents you from visiting the website exactly? Do you have Adobe Flash installed? Have you tried using different browsers?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on September 29, 2011, 05:31:05 PM
Aaz do you know when next CM will be out ?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 29, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
Aaz do you know when next CM will be out ?

No, and no one said there'd be another one anyway.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Bramwell on September 30, 2011, 11:39:13 AM
What prevents you from visiting the website exactly? Do you have Adobe Flash installed? Have you tried using different browsers?

Ive tried with firefox and IE. It just says the connection timed out. Yeh i have flash  :???:
Boo hoo
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2011, 01:15:51 PM
Ive tried with firefox and IE. It just says the connection timed out. Yeh i have flash  :???:
Boo hoo

Well I'm not going to do a step by step checkup but it's not normal.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on September 30, 2011, 03:05:13 PM
Ive tried with firefox and IE. It just says the connection timed out. Yeh i have flash  :???:
Boo hoo

Try using a proxy from a different country.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on September 30, 2011, 08:40:42 PM
New images off Clara's Twitter

(http://p.twimg.com/AamJbj5CEAARXcX.jpg:large)
(http://p.twimg.com/AamNMGPCEAAoXa_.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 01, 2011, 03:16:18 AM
Pretty sure we've seen all of those pictures before.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Eddie on October 01, 2011, 09:21:50 AM
http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=191 (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=191)

There's a "Berserk public commemorative display" that will take place at a festival held in Tokyo (in the Kichijoji PARCO mall to be precise) from October 1st to October 10th. Their life-size replica of the Dragon Slayer will be there.

Do you know if there's gonna be any other berserk things on display there, or will it just be the Dragon Slayer replica?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 01, 2011, 09:35:21 AM
Do you know if there's gonna be any other berserk things on display there, or will it just be the Dragon Slayer replica?

I'm pretty sure there'll be other things. How about you go and take some pictures for us? :slan:

EDIT: New pictures from Clara:

(https://p.twimg.com/AaqNQcwCEAABSui.jpg)       (https://p.twimg.com/Aap6kCYCQAAhSBG.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on October 01, 2011, 05:09:42 PM
I'm pretty sure there'll be other things. How about you go and take some pictures for us? :slan:

If they flew me over there, I could have brought some cool Berserk kits to display :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Eddie on October 02, 2011, 02:42:31 AM
I'm pretty sure there'll be other things. How about you go and take some pictures for us? :slan:

If I go, I totally will. I'm supposed to go to the mountains though next weekend, but we'll see if that falls through, if so I'll share some pictures here.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Blues on October 03, 2011, 01:14:45 PM
Actually came back to SK to get a better feel for what was going on with the project. I have to say I'm still very much looking forward to it. I see (not just from SK) some small disinterests/disappointment in 4c's direction/cgi usage, but meh, I feel grateful this is even happening, plus the chance of getting it in a theater is awesome, though I gather it'll be as limited as those Evangelion 2.0/Knockin On Heaven's Door screenings.

I know another thread was discussing dubbing, and isn't WB somehow involved? I doubt mediablasters gets picks this time, and I'm hoping we get some great voice acting out of it. Not much of a fan of watching it in its "native" language anymore than a Leone's Spaghetti Westerns. Speaking of...westernization,

Most..interestingly, this seems to be the guy they're leaving all their "Swordwork" up to,
http://www.meetup.com/TokyoStitchandBitch/members/13419745/
/yeahhhhhhhhhh

And in general, I doubt localization will happen anytime soon. I doubt they are shooting out films 1-2-3 back to back (could be wrong?), and judging by the rebooted Eva's pace, it could be a long wait. I suppose I'm hoping too much to get my hands on any black swordsman arcs (pending they happen) before 2020?
Need my rocking chair.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 03, 2011, 02:41:31 PM
the chance of getting it in a theater is awesome, though I gather it'll be as limited as those Evangelion 2.0/Knockin On Heaven's Door screenings.
Not necessarily. These are two completely different projects, and Berserk's has the backing of a major distributor: Warner Bros.

Quote
I know another thread was discussing dubbing,
Yep, there is another thread, and it'd be best for discussion if you'd relegate dubbing/voice acting posts to that thread in the future. Thanks!

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Most..interestingly, this seems to be the guy they're leaving all their "Swordwork" up to,
http://www.meetup.com/TokyoStitchandBitch/members/13419745/
/yeahhhhhhhhhh
That is a pretty funny-looking site, but I won't prejudge the guy's ability based on it. I'm sure he has some cred if they went out of their way to contract him for the project. BTW, where'd you find out that this was their guy?

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I doubt they are shooting out films 1-2-3 back to back (could be wrong?), and judging by the rebooted Eva's pace, it could be a long wait. I suppose I'm hoping too much to get my hands on any black swordsman arcs (pending they happen) before 2020?
Again, these are two different projects by two different companies. Their production schedules don't have to mirror each other. For all we know, the full Golden Age section of Berserk is being animated now, and they'll split up some post-production stuff over the next year or two. No dates or hints about subsequent releases have been announced. Part 2 could come in 6 months, or in 2 years. We just don't have any way of knowing at this point.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on October 03, 2011, 04:56:28 PM
That is a pretty funny-looking site, but I won't prejudge the guy's ability based on it. I'm sure he has some cred if they went out of their way to contract him for the project. BTW, where'd you find out that this was their guy?

I assume this (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/08/24/berserk-movie-staff-and-cast-revealed) might be the source for the guy

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Western Swordsmanship Coach: Jay Noyes (Final Fantasy XII)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 03, 2011, 05:06:02 PM
I assume this (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/08/24/berserk-movie-staff-and-cast-revealed) might be the source for the guy

Ah, well he's also listed in the credits posted here in the thread, I just have overlooked his name until now.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on October 03, 2011, 05:44:10 PM

Most..interestingly, this seems to be the guy they're leaving all their "Swordwork" up to,
http://www.meetup.com/TokyoStitchandBitch/members/13419745/
/yeahhhhhhhhhh
I agree with Walter, don't judge a book by its cover  :guts:. I searched his name in Youtube, and this video showed up. I have no idea if it's actually the guy we are talking about. Anyway here is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu_hArXPT5Q
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: CCS on October 04, 2011, 01:40:37 AM
His sword skills look pretty solid. Anyway they're probably using him for motion capture for CG knights in the background, not for the main character actions.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 04, 2011, 02:46:36 AM
His sword skills look pretty solid. Anyway they're probably using him for motion capture for CG knights in the background, not for the main character actions.
The fact that they even bothered to contract a weapon specialist is encouraging. That really wasn't a necessary step for an anime adaptation. But seeing as how Miura has largely based his equipment and weapon designs on real-life counterparts, it's a show of good faith.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Blues on October 04, 2011, 03:44:45 AM
Walter, the "dub" comment was just thrown in to avoid reviving an entire two month old topic over something that actually did fit in with what I was going for (localization process in general, vs something that didn't even start out as a discussion on the new VAs?...) but what have you.

Regarding Jay, I think a lot of people read too much into my statement at the end, being more directed at his website/title/..knitting profession than say, a knock on his actual contribution to the film which up until the clips I had no concept to comment on.
A clip was posted earlier showing free play, but I prefer this one as its actually some insight into what you -might- see reflected in the film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoG2m_Pe-6c&feature=related
All in all I'm sure they'll get some accuracy out of the deal. One interesting thing about western vs Japanese swordsmanship (beyond "western armor/swords") is how they were taught. Western swordsmanship is pretty much left up to open interpretations of old manuals that have to basically be retranslated/reworked (you see Jay holding one in a free play session) I had a different video attached, but I feel this better shows my experience with ARMA/medieval sf. guilds,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVC25hYJaY&feature=related
That's pretty much all you have to go by.
And if anyone's curious, Poleaxe>all. There's seldom a (melee) medieval weapon that is so versatile as that thing.

Anyways, an area I'm ironically far more familiar with, Japanese swordsmanship tends to be passed down via the Koryu, which is a transmission from Soke to Soke, some make revisions, but it kind of goes in the polar opposite of the scholar-concept in play in most ARMA and western swordsmanship guilds today.

Ironically? There's quite a lot of case where I felt "same thing". There are definite similarities in certain stances, kata/parries/repostes and even footwork from time to time. Maybe there's only so many ways you can kill a man with a weapon?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 04, 2011, 04:13:07 AM
Walter, the "dub" comment was just thrown in to avoid reviving an entire two month old topic over something that actually did fit in with what I was going for (localization process in general, vs something that didn't even start out as a discussion on the new VAs?...) but what have you.
By all means, please don't revive an older thread just because you have something really small to contribute. But by that same token, don't mix in that stuff in the News thread just because you don't feel like elaborating your feelings into a more meaningful post. I'd rather this topic regarding new information discussion not become a repository for stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else.

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Regarding Jay, I think a lot of people read too much into my statement at the end, being more directed at his website/title/..knitting profession than say, a knock on his actual contribution to the film which up until the clips I had no concept to comment on.
Well, then it would probably have been better for you to elaborate a little more about what you meant in your post instead of leaving it with "yeahhhhhhhhhh".  :iva:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoG2m_Pe-6c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVC25hYJaY&feature=related
Cool, thanks for sharing these. The guy seems to know his stuff, and also be integrated into Japan already. A good way to market yourself  :serpico:

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Anyways, an area I'm ironically far more familiar with, Japanese swordsmanship tends to be passed down via the Koryu, which is a transmission from Soke to Soke, some make revisions, but it kind of goes in the polar opposite of the scholar-concept in play in most ARMA and western swordsmanship guilds today.
Neat, but again the distinction here isn't that important. That they're even bothering to incorporate an "expert" opinion, regardless of the method of his own education, shows that they care about accuracy.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on October 04, 2011, 07:23:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoG2m_Pe-6c&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTVC25hYJaY&feature=related
These are very good, thanks for sharing. I like how they both bow in front of the sword before they start practicing.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 04, 2011, 11:37:25 AM
Regarding Jay, I think a lot of people read too much into my statement at the end, being more directed at his website/title/..knitting profession than say, a knock on his actual contribution to the film which up until the clips I had no concept to comment on.

That's not his website, he's just listed there as a member. You're the one who read too much into something and then spread misinformation. Anyway I personally don't mind the guy at all. Like Walter said, it's encouraging that they bothered hiring a consultant in the first place.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: thedigitalsin on October 05, 2011, 07:14:29 AM
http://www.cinematopics.com/cinema/works/output2.php?oid=12273

ジュドー役:梶裕貴
リッケルト役:寿美菜子
ピピン役:藤原貴弘
コルカス役:松本ヨシロウ
ガストン役:矢尾一樹
シャルロット役:豊崎愛生
ユリウスおよびアドン役:小山力也(一人二役)
ゾッド役:三宅健太

Judeau: Yuuki Kaji
Rickert: Minako Kotobuki
Pippin: Takahiro Fujiwara
Corkus: Yoshirou Matsumoto
Gaston: Kazuki Yao
Charlotte: Aki Toyosaki
Julius/Adon: Rikiya Koyama
Zodd: Kenta Miyake
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on October 05, 2011, 11:43:31 AM
Zodd: Kenta Miyake

I'm glad Zodd is getting a new voice actor. I didn't like the previous seiyuu's interpretation of Zodd at all. I like what I've heard Kenta Miyake do in the past, so I think it's a good choice.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on October 05, 2011, 11:59:10 AM
I really hope Gaston's voice is good.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 05, 2011, 12:37:26 PM
I'm glad Zodd is getting a new voice actor. I didn't like the previous seiyuu's interpretation of Zodd at all.

I didn't mind how they voiced him in his human form, but I didn't like the way they handled his apostle form at all.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on October 05, 2011, 03:37:22 PM
Could someone explain which voices (seiyuu) in Berserk will remain the same as in 1997, and which are changed to new ?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 05, 2011, 03:58:50 PM
Could someone explain which voices (seiyuu) in Berserk will remain the same as in 1997, and which are changed to new ?
No one will be returning. It is an all new cast. But I made a list just to double check for you:


Guts: Hiroaki Iwanaga ( was: Hayashi Nobutoshi)
Griffith: Takahiro Sakurai ( was: Morikawa Toshiyuki)
Casca: Toa Yukinari ( was: Miyamura Yuko)
Judeau: Yuuki Kaji ( was: Ishida Akira)
Rickert: Minako Kotobuki ( was: Yajima Akiko)
Pippin: Takahiro Fujiwara ( was: Amada Masuo)
Corkus: Yoshirou Matsumoto ( was:  Nishimura Hoko)
Gaston: Kazuki Yao ( was: Kawanakako Masato)
Charlotte: Aki Toyosaki ( was: Shiratori Yuri)
Julius/Adon: Rikiya Koyama ( was: Mizuno Ryuji)
Zodd: Kenta Miyake ( was: Utsumi Kenji)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: SrCraneo on October 05, 2011, 10:32:31 PM
Woa - I could swear Griffith's voice was the same as the older anime.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Julalien on October 06, 2011, 01:21:45 AM
No one will be returning. It is an all new cast. But I made a list just to double check for you:


Guts: Hiroaki Iwanaga ( was: Hayashi Nobutoshi)
Griffith: Takahiro Sakurai ( was: Morikawa Toshiyuki)
Casca: Toa Yukinari ( was: Miyamura Yuko)
Judeau: Yuuki Kaji ( was: Ishida Akira)
Rickert: Minako Kotobuki ( was: Yajima Akiko)
Pippin: Takahiro Fujiwara ( was: Amada Masuo)
Corkus: Yoshirou Matsumoto ( was:  Nishimura Hoko)
Gaston: Kazuki Yao ( was: Kawanakako Masato)
Charlotte: Aki Toyosaki ( was: Shiratori Yuri)
Julius/Adon: Rikiya Koyama ( was: Mizuno Ryuji)
Zodd: Kenta Miyake ( was: Utsumi Kenji)


Although I'll miss Ishida Akira's Judeau, I am still really looking forward to hearing the new cast in action. Also, the official site was just updated to include comments from the newly announced cast members. As with Guts, Griffith, and Casca, the comments include small images as well. I believe some of the images are new: http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/cast.html
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Slime_Beherit on October 06, 2011, 04:21:42 AM
So Griff went from Sephiroth to Cloud, kinda weird
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: A.C on October 06, 2011, 11:19:13 AM
Interesting. I wonder who they'll replace Void and Slan's VA with...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaWManiac on October 06, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
Interesting. I wonder who they'll replace Void and Slan's VA with...

we'll just have to wait and see until the third movie i guess...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on October 06, 2011, 02:58:26 PM
Walter, thanks!

So Griff went from Sephiroth to Cloud, kinda weird


Now that's interesting, I didn't know they were Sef and Cloud
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 06, 2011, 03:04:32 PM
we'll just have to wait and see until the third movie i guess...
It's possible we'll hear their voices in the second movie, depending on whether it ends after Griffith hears them calling to him while imprisoned.

I think it's a good thing they're recasting these roles. It's a new project with new staff. Let's get some new talent in there as well.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on October 07, 2011, 02:08:48 AM
KONO SEKAI NI WA

Man, whenever I read Void, that's the voice I hear.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on October 07, 2011, 04:40:40 AM
THEY ARE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG. I completely missed these. I'm so glad to hear the voices and now read all the casts members that Walter just posted.

This is going to be great!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 07, 2011, 08:29:14 AM
Some more pictures can be found here for those curious: http://news.thetv.jp/article/25108/photo08.html (http://news.thetv.jp/article/25108/photo08.html)

And because I'm such a nice guy, here they all are, at your convenience:

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233535_00_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_05_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233535_01_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_06_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233536_02_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_07_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233536_03_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_08_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233536_04_400.jpg)



Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on October 07, 2011, 09:27:05 AM
Judo is kinda girlish, Julius isnt like him self. But overall is good
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Shadow8 on October 07, 2011, 09:57:52 AM
Its just superb. I love it. The animation will be really good. :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on October 07, 2011, 10:08:37 AM
I think the images look great. My personal, emotional reactions to the images are all positive for all the characters. Julius is not the sort of character, to me, that I would be upset if he looked a little different. I am not passionate about his role in the story "that way." I am however passionate that he look brooding and mischievous, and generally identifiable which he is here. It is not a difference of a bad sort, merely a difference of just that, being different. Once we all slip into the flow of the animation that another board member here spoke of, we will all coast throughout the movie and very likely its sequels with no trouble at all.

The first note that I made, and continue to make the more information we receive, is the difference in money between this project and the TV series. It is very obvious, and I mean this in the best way possible. Everything looks so fantastic. Imagine how the Eclipse might be with this budget and detail, whereas in the 90s series, there were limitations. Much of this project stands to expand and elaborate on scenes we could only have imagined. I believe it was Aazealh that suggested we imagine seeing the Sea God animated. Speechless-rendering, Indeed!

I was iffy about that shot of Judeau the first time I saw it, but like much of this animation, it is becoming something very comfortable with me.

Pippin seems to me to be taken a bit more seriously than his 90s counterpart, which I occasionally took to be a rask generic, token if you will, burly group member.

Rickert looks the best of everyone in my opinion. He impressed me the most with the rest of the Band of the Hawk in that poster, and steals the cake here as well.

Charlotte was the type of character that didn't look very "difficult" to mess up in the show, and I see some of that here. But this just how my eyes see the importance of her design, whereas I'm sure some of you might be a great deal more invested in her design. What I do take away from her shot here though, is the environmental detail. It suggests we are in for so many architectural and landscape treats.

Corkus, not that his face wasn't like this in the TV series, but it looks more obvious to relate him with the pessimism and negativity of his character than before. I think it will be very easy for him to quickly instill those character traits right off with the aid of his unfriendly facial features, if such a thing could be noticed.

Gaston looks just fine here. I know he was SIC to the Hawks' Radiers(?) but I never really felt I got to know him that well in the story, so his exactness and detail is not as high as some of the more main characters. I will still be looking out for his ponytail, identifiable nose, and large lips to match up with some of the panels I've read when the time comes, but I have no doubt he will look like himself when most everyone else does.

And lastly there's Zodd. When his CM came out, I was not the most pleased with his appearance, but I supposed I should have counted my blessings at the sheer abundance in movement we were getting from him considering how sneakily he had been animated in his fight with Guts and Griffith. I loved that fight in the TV series, but as you all know, utilization of moving things could often be tasked to an audio-accompanying oil-paint-ish "still." I will reserve disliking his appearance here, because I do not dislike it, but I still side with my gut at the moment that something does not look quite right about him yet.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on October 07, 2011, 11:44:38 AM
Carcus looks like a dick. And I'm digging Gaston's face under that helmet. So far so good!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jaNSENN on October 07, 2011, 12:37:26 PM
the still shots look amazing, if they dont fuck up the animation it'll be epic
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on October 07, 2011, 04:00:26 PM
I really like these pics.  :ubik: I feel that this adaptation will definitely be better than the '97 anime.
I also like the way they did character designs. Miura's drawing style is always changing, but they could find the perfect design which is both realistic and anime-like enough (and also resembles Miura's style well.)

By the way, doesn't Judo have some freckles on his nose? His face looks just too clean on that pic.
Charlotte looks good but it's a pity they gave her annoying voice again... But never mind, that's how she is.

And I know it's early but I'd really like to see some shots of those characters who were left out from the old anime (especially Silat and his "performance"). I wonder until which movie do we have to wait to see him or Wyald... 3 maybe?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on October 07, 2011, 05:11:50 PM
And because I'm such a nice guy, here they all are, at your convenience:

SOOOO PREEETTTTTYYY.  These screenshots make me happy.  Oh how I miss these characters.  They all look so expressive!  I'm digging these designs for sure!  And the 1:85:1 aspect ratio is just soooo nice.  Man, I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS ON THE BIG SCREEN!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on October 07, 2011, 05:58:32 PM
SOOOO PREEETTTTTYYY. 

Exactly. These pictures are so clear and the animation looks so freaking good. The CGI clouds (I assume?) in the background fit well with the animation.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on October 07, 2011, 06:25:44 PM
I like this one in particular,

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_08_400.jpg)

The way the steam is coming off the pot and Carcus' food is amazing, and the thin line work looks beautiful. I also love the shots with Rickert and the backdrops are all pleasant.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on October 07, 2011, 06:36:56 PM
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233536_02_400.jpg)

Looks like the above, seemingly anachronistic, shot could re-open the case of the mysterious old lady (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.msg200008#msg200008).

Though, the image of what looks too much like young Griff not to be (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/comparenew04b.jpg) is far more conclusive. Rickert could still be having a scene with the fortune teller (though they don't converse in the manga) and/or her traveling companions from volume 12, which could be as simple as a change of scenery for that scene, or... a complete addition.
Here's a theory, maybe the reason she looks like all and none of the old hags is because they're combining them into one uber-hag. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 07, 2011, 06:41:17 PM
Looks like the above, seemingly anachronistic, shot could re-open the case of the mysterious old lady (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12087.msg200008#msg200008).
Yep. I've been looking through early volumes this morning, trying to place that shot. Pretty sure it's either a new scene or at least an existing scene transposed into a new environment. He's wearing the outfit seen in volume 12 when he's with the traveling troupe. But he didn't go back to a city after the king made the Hawks outlaws.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Emp_Gaiseric on October 09, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
Looks like Rickert is incognito. Maybe he is with the troupe simply in a village with a stone mill, church, or some other building that would be built stronger than a regular wood frame peasant house. Every other building in the area that we can't see could be poor villager wooden housing. Also the walking woman's hood is not the same color as the hag's/fortuneteller's/old woman's, so she could just be a random villager. In the still at least Rickert does not seem to be paying any attention to her suggesting a person simply there for background/ambient purposes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 09, 2011, 07:34:57 PM
Also the walking woman's hood is not the same color as the hag's/fortuneteller's/old woman's, so she could just be a random villager.
A random villager who just so happens to get a foreboding-looking moment in the 30 second trailer? Extremely unlikely.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Shadow8 on October 09, 2011, 10:27:50 PM
I have question.

In the movie, Are we going to see Idea of ​​Evil?

It would  be great, I find. :badbone:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on October 09, 2011, 11:01:20 PM
In the movie, Are we going to see Idea of ​​Evil?

There's been no mention of it and I really doubt it will be in any of the movies especially if they are trying to stay faithful to the manga (and Miura's requests). Besides, he has not reintroduced it to the manga after several volumes of mentioning it for his reasons like -limiting story/giving away too much plot, etc. So, because we haven't reseen it in the manga that would (to me) give even more reason for it not being mentioned in the movies.

Edit: Or the simple answer: No, absolutely not.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on October 10, 2011, 01:50:39 AM
Where's Judo's Freckles? He looks too much like Serpico! :mozgus: *throws a chair*


Jk, I have hope that they will fix that, seeing as how they've fixed  Zodd's horns already.

Guts correct sword and armor should be the top priority on their fix list though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on October 10, 2011, 05:13:40 AM
Also the walking woman's hood is not the same color as the hag's/fortuneteller's/old woman's, so she could just be a random villager. In the still at least Rickert does not seem to be paying any attention to her suggesting a person simply there for background/ambient purposes.

Yeah, I wouldn't think she's anything more than that.

A random villager who just so happens to get a foreboding-looking moment in the 30 second trailer? Extremely unlikely.

He's talking about the woman in the background of that Rickert shot, which is a bit confusing since it's not like anybody was making more of her.

There's been no mention of it and I really doubt it will be in any of the movies especially if they are trying to stay faithful to the manga (and Miura's requests). Besides, he has not reintroduced it to the manga after several volumes of mentioning it for his reasons like -limiting story/giving away too much plot, etc. So, because we haven't reseen it in the manga that would (to me) give even more reason for it not being mentioned in the movies.

Edit: Or the simple answer: No, absolutely not.

Simply wrong. The Idea of Evil does appear briefly in volume 13, so if they really want to be faithful to the manga it will appear just the same in the movies.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 10, 2011, 07:08:08 AM
Besides, he has not reintroduced it to the manga

In addition to what Griffith rightly pointed out (that the Idea of Evil appears in the manga at the end of episode 82), the Idea of Evil was referenced in episode titles in volume 20 ("Shadow of Idea") and was directly hinted at by Flora in volume 24 (as being the master of the beherits).

Miura removed episode 83 because he felt it revealed too much about the world too early in the story. He never said the Idea of Evil wasn't canon anymore. And in his response to our letter he said he wasn't sure whether it would appear again in the story, but that doesn't mean it's not canon either.

So I for one certainly hope it will be featured in the movie. A simple glimpse would be perfect, just like in the manga.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on October 10, 2011, 07:31:00 AM
So I for one certainly hope it will be featured in the movie. A simple glimpse would be perfect, just like in the manga.

Don't worry, I've got it covered (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dny-uGXPxVM#t=22m13s). :slan: :idea:

Anyway, if they plan to cover everything it would be a mistake not to properly tease the Idea of Evil should it reappear and reclaim a more significant role in the story (like this (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/305preview.jpg), or this (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/finalbattle.jpg), and if it's not already clear I seem to think it would be cool if it came through a portal =).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Skullgrin140 on October 10, 2011, 09:48:54 AM
Some more pictures can be found here for those curious: http://news.thetv.jp/article/25108/photo08.html (http://news.thetv.jp/article/25108/photo08.html)

And because I'm such a nice guy, here they all are, at your convenience:

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233535_00_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_05_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233535_01_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_06_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233536_02_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_07_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233536_03_400.jpg) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233617_08_400.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/stills/20111005233536_04_400.jpg)

These all look beautifully drawn and the colors are very abundant. I'm not much of a fan for the new art style anime is going for now adays but seeing how this looks for Berserk it works very well.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on October 10, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
Simply wrong.

Hmm, only read the series once. Guess forgetting things like that is motivation to re-read it before the movie. Though, I kinda planned on doing that anyways; I'd much rather have a fresh memory of the manga to compare to while watching it.

Idea of Evil appears in the manga at the end of episode 82), the Idea of Evil was referenced in episode titles in volume 20 ("Shadow of Idea") and was directly hinted at by Flora in volume 24 (as being the master of the beherits).

Ah, didn't know that.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on October 12, 2011, 07:52:23 PM
No one linked it here yet I don't think, but the official website's cast page was updated 10/6/11 (http://www.berserkfilm.com/about/cast.html). Nothing new to see there, except I found a couple of things interesting.

Why do they list Julius but not Adon? Isn't it the same actor, and isn't Adon a somewhat major player a little earlier than Julius is? What about the Queen? Where's Gambino? Guts as a child? Foss? Owen and Raban? Just too minor to mention? Gaston is listed though, perhaps his scenes are a bit more extended?

I'm probably reading too much into it, too much free time.  :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 12, 2011, 08:04:43 PM
Why do they list Julius but not Adon? Isn't it the same actor, and isn't Adon a somewhat major player a little earlier than Julius is?

Adon is listed along with Julius. They just didn't bother putting up two pictures. Not exactly a big deal.

What about the Queen?

What about the King?

Where's Gambino? Guts as a child? Foss? Owen and Raban? Just too minor to mention?

Well they aren't going to list everyone at this point (they might not even have cast all the voice actors yet), but it's true I'd have liked to see Gambino in there.

Gaston is listed though, perhaps his scenes are a bit more extended?

Hopefully not.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on October 12, 2011, 08:35:31 PM
Adon is listed along with Julius. They just didn't bother putting up two pictures. Not exactly a big deal.

On second thought it's potentially a good sign, if this means Adon won't be so prominent this go around... something tells me Adon didn't make any more friends with extended and added scenes. Oh please tell me it's true.

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What about the King?

He crossed my mind too, but I found the Queen especially odd since they decided to show Julius, since you know, they're bangin' and whatnot.

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Well they aren't going to list everyone at this point (they might not even have cast all the voice actors yet), but it's true I'd have liked to see Gambino in there.

Yea, it also crossed my mind that they'd be more inclined to list the most recognizable players too... but I'd still consider the Minister Foss to be more important to the core story than Gaston, no offense to the poor guy I love him so much. I'll chalk it up to casting, like you said, and cross my fingers.


Random thought, for some reason I feel like after the trilogy is released Silat is going to go up in popularity in a big way (with the more anime-inclined folk who don't like reading and stuff). Everyone loves ninja-type-characters. ^^; That is, until Rakshas is introduced. :rakshas:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 13, 2011, 11:42:46 AM
On second thought it's potentially a good sign, if this means Adon won't be so prominent this go around... something tells me Adon didn't make any more friends with extended and added scenes. Oh please tell me it's true.

Keep in mind it's the voice actors that are being announced, not the characters. I don't think much can be derived from that page and who is or isn't on it.

He crossed my mind too, but I found the Queen especially odd since they decided to show Julius, since you know, they're bangin' and whatnot.

I don't see the relation. The queen's a pretty minor character all things considered, especially in the part of the story the movie is covering.



Anyway, in actual news, Clara posted this picture on Twitter along with a message implying we'd get some info tomorrow:

(http://p.twimg.com/AbotjwfCIAAFgQN.jpg)

My guess is that those of us who'll graduate to the rank of "Intermediate Commander" today will be awarded a little beherit trinket as a reward. Might be Japan-only though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on October 13, 2011, 12:21:36 PM
Wow, wouldn't that be an amazing reward, Aaz. I sure hope if this speculation is indeed where this is heading, that it's international. Wouldn't that be a wonderful treat for you devout warriors who have scaled the chain of command on the twitter front!

Personally, I am only approaching Junior Commander. But I am just fine with that for now. I am proud that I was able to interpret the quiz without the assistance of anybody. And it was a special little pride-boost to see that a few in the #berserkfilm search results were having trouble with translating it. I applied a little assistance from a translator, and common-sensed the rest! I even went an additional step (of my own ignorance) increasing the difficulty by not knowing the quiz was from the newly released book (36?). So I detective-worked the position of the moment in the story by  the look of Guts' age. It's all history and 120p after that.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 13, 2011, 05:26:02 PM
Wow, wouldn't that be an amazing reward, Aaz. I sure hope if this speculation is indeed where this is heading, that it's international. Wouldn't that be a wonderful treat for you devout warriors who have scaled the chain of command on the twitter front!

Hehe, it would be nice, but's it's just wishful thinking at this point.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on October 13, 2011, 11:02:52 PM
My guess is that those of us who'll graduate to the rank of "Intermediate Commander" today will be awarded a little beherit trinket as a reward. Might be Japan-only though.
Fuck that, I earned this.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Julalien on October 14, 2011, 01:10:36 AM
Advance tickets for the film can be bought on October 29th. You get one of five different beherits along with your advance ticket. I want them all! There will also be one more secret item given out as well. Premium tickets will go on sale in December. http://www.berserkfilm.com/theater/


Also, Clara posted on twitter that the release date for the film is set for February 4th. As excited as I am about the start of the Saga Project, I think I am most looking forward to hearing Susumu Hirasawa's new theme song for the film. Hirasawa's style has always changed over the years so I'm interested in seeing how he will interpret his feelings for Miura's work for the start of the new project.

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on October 14, 2011, 01:32:24 AM
I'll buy a ticket and scalp it for the Beherit.

And, yeah. I'm looking forward to the new Hirasawa track as well.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on October 14, 2011, 06:01:41 AM
Advance tickets for the film can be bought on October 29th. You get one of five different beherits along with your advance ticket. I want them all! There will also be one more secret item given out as well. Premium tickets will go on sale in December. http://www.berserkfilm.com/theater/

Oooo cool news.  Looks like it got pushed back one month to February, but that's alright.  It's cool we have a specific date now!  Gives me more confidence that it's coming soon!  Really, it's only a little over 3 months now!

About the theaters, I did a quick count, and counted 90+ theaters.  Does anyone have an idea of this is a lot of theaters for an anime theatrical release in Japan?  I'm curious to know how BIG of a release this movie is going to be.  I feel like it's gonna be big, but I usually don't follow stuff like this.

And man oh man, if news comes of some US theaters, I will pretty much wet my pants.  Can you imagine seeing Berserk on the big screen?  FRICKEN RIDICULOUSNESS.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: CCS on October 17, 2011, 01:28:16 AM
Not big news, but the guy doing the sword work got back to me:

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Thank you for your message! I did the best I could, although of course we had to bow in the direction of fantasy at times to keep to the manga style. I'm anxious to see what the final result is like. I loved working in stunt design, though.


Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 17, 2011, 07:20:26 AM
Clara posted some pictures of the bonus beherits that will be available to those who'll preorder tickets in a couple of weeks. As expected, the "secret bonus" is a crying red beherit:

(http://p.twimg.com/Ab7oyKbCQAAXGVO.jpg)

A close-up shot of a greenie:

(http://p.twimg.com/Ab7e6aLCEAAu4kU.jpg)

Here are the standard ones before they get their final coat of paint:

(http://p.twimg.com/Ab7irqECQAA0DBF.jpg)

And to go with that, a picture of someone who really needs to cut their fingernails:

(http://p.twimg.com/Ab7kocECAAA84sJ.jpg)

Not big news, but the guy doing the sword work got back to me:

Well that sure is nice of him! I'd like knowing more about what they did for the movie and how it all went down, if he were inclined to talk about it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on October 17, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
I'll buy a ticket and scalp it for the Beherit.
How?
I want a ticket too :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 17, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
Those Beherits look pretty high quality to me. I expected something far, far shittier. Good luck to all who will get them!  :casca:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on October 17, 2011, 02:10:56 PM
will we be able to sacrifice someone with it? :void:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on October 17, 2011, 02:50:43 PM
will we be able to sacrifice someone with it? :void:
haha,

Maybe you should try sacrificing your most loved ones and then get back to us. :carcus:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 18, 2011, 01:04:33 PM
The background pictures on the official site have been updated.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 18, 2011, 01:28:45 PM
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs7-small.jpg)

Some pretty cool new shots, but also some repeats. I took screen shots of all the new ones. Forgive the ads on the screen, I couldn't find a way to remove them yet.

Guts nude (?!)before SK. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs3.jpg)
Battlements. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs1.jpg)
Zodd. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs6.jpg)
Guts vs Griffith. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs7.jpg)
Guts and Casca during sunset. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs8.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Julalien on October 18, 2011, 01:48:40 PM


Some pretty cool new shots, but also some repeats. I took screen shots of all the new ones. Forgive the ads on the screen, I couldn't find a way to remove them yet.

Guts nude (?!)before SK. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs3.jpg)
Battlements. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs1.jpg)
Zodd. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs6.jpg)
Guts vs Griffith. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs7.jpg)
Guts and Casca during sunset. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs8.jpg)


Awesome! I really love the new shot of Zodd. Thanks for taking screenshots of the new images!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on October 18, 2011, 04:14:45 PM
Guts vs Griffith. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newbgs7.jpg)
It looks like they are going to make Griffith's hair progressively more wavy just like in the manga and old anime. nice!

Guts nude (?!)before SK. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs3.jpg)
another thing to note is that Guts is holding his sword with only one hand, and his sword is still the wrong sword! (oh yeah and he's naked too)
It's reminding me a lot more of this shot rather than the one in volume 9:
(http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/Truder7/Untitled-13.jpg)

EDIT: actually Guts IS holding his sword with 2 hands. you can barely see his other hand though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 18, 2011, 04:20:59 PM
It's reminding me a lot more of this shot rather than the one in volume 9:
There's no way it's from that scene.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on October 18, 2011, 04:23:50 PM
Some pretty cool new shots, but also some repeats. I took screen shots of all the new ones. Forgive the ads on the screen, I couldn't find a way to remove them yet.


Thanks Walter!!!  I love these!  Especially the Zodd shot, and the Guts/Casca/sunset shot.   So purdy!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on October 18, 2011, 04:27:23 PM
There's no way it's from that scene.
I know it's not. I was just saying that it reminds me of that one particular shot.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on October 18, 2011, 04:37:54 PM
another thing to note is that Guts is holding his sword with only one hand, and his sword is still the wrong sword! (oh yeah and he's naked too)
It's reminding me a lot more of this shot rather than the one in volume 9:
http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/Truder7/Untitled-13.jpg

EDIT: actually Guts IS holding his sword with 2 hands. you can barely see his other hand though.

It almost makes me wonder if they moved that scene, like perhaps now it's when he falls with Casca into the river? I hope not.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 18, 2011, 05:09:22 PM
It almost makes me wonder if they moved that scene, like perhaps now it's when he falls with Casca into the river? I hope not.
Just because of the sword? Shifting the timing of that scene would be a pretty major move.  A simpler explanation would be that Guts doesn't lose his sword in the Battle of Doldrey, or merely replaces it with a similar sword.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2011, 05:14:44 PM
Judging from the quality of the new in old shots on the website, it's going to look quite beautiful in high definition.

Zodd's horns still look wrong, though. :iva: :zodd:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on October 18, 2011, 05:25:47 PM
Guts nude (?!)before SK. (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs3.jpg)

This pic is like... What the...? Someone said before something like "maybe Guts is shirtless to make the scene more intimate :slan:"... But the lack of pants made me worried...
There's already enough nudity in Berserk, I have no idea why would we need more. To be honest, it looks a bit like fanservice to me, they just did it to make more women watch the movie...? If so, then they're doing it wrong, I don't say that Guts isn't hot enough, but he's not the favorite of the fangirls...

I'm crossing my fingers: don't change the story, don't flood it with fanservice, don't change the story, don't flood it with fanservice, PLEEASE!!  :sad:

But at least the quality is good, I can't even imagine how awesome will it look on the big screen.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2011, 05:49:55 PM
To be honest, it looks a bit like fanservice to me, they just did it to make more women watch the movie...? If so, then they're doing it wrong, I don't say that Guts isn't hot enough, but he's not the favorite of the fangirls...

Ugh, for that very reason I don't think it has any more to do with "fanservice" than the numerous other inconsistencies with the manga. Call it fan-disservice at this point.

I'm crossing my fingers: don't change the story, don't flood it with fanservice, don't change the story, don't flood it with fanservice, PLEEASE!!  :sad:

If you're that concerned about it, I might suggest not thinking of everything in such terms.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 18, 2011, 06:01:03 PM
Just because of the sword? Shifting the timing of that scene would be a pretty major move.  A simpler explanation would be that Guts doesn't lose his sword in the Battle of Doldrey, or merely replaces it with a similar sword.
The sword in this picture (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs3.jpg) is not his Hawks sword.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2011, 06:14:28 PM
The sword in this picture (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/newBGs3.jpg) is not his Hawks sword.

Good eye, they skipped right past his post-Doldrey sword and upgraded him to his post-Hawks sword, though if the shot of the duel (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/comparenew02.jpg) is to be believed, he still had the old design. So, why change swords (perhaps to save face Griffith will ask for Guts for his badge and weapon before he leaves =)? Anyway, this just gets weirder and weirder, and as we feared, unless these superficial changes are rectified, something bigger is going to have to change; either the events themselves or the timeline. This is why the details matter.

Hmmmm, maybe that's supposed to be when Guts actually puts on his new armor! Thus, the new sword and nakedness. :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 18, 2011, 06:49:12 PM
Good eye, they skipped right past his post-Doldrey sword and upgraded him to his post-Hawks sword, though if the shot of the duel (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/comparenew02.jpg) is to be believed, he still had the old design. So, why change swords (perhaps to save face Griffith will ask for Guts for his badge and weapon before he leaves =)? Anyway, this just gets weirder and weirder, and as we feared, unless these superficial changes are rectified, something bigger is going to have to change; either the events themselves or the timeline. This is why the details matter.

Hmmmm, maybe that's supposed to be when Guts actually puts on his new armor! Thus, the new sword and nakedness. :guts:
I really think we should take the details of this picture (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/comparenew02.jpg) with a grain of salt, considering how long ago it was released compared to when that scene will actually be released in a movie (2nd or 3rd.)

But yes, the mystery of the post-Doldrey sword still remains. That sword was broken when he was training at Godo's, right? Maybe that will be skipped over(it was skipped in the old anime,) and so they will just give Guts his post-Hawks sword after Doldery and he will keep it right through the eclipse.

Or maybe it's just a promo shot and the details will be corrected in the movies.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on October 18, 2011, 06:59:02 PM
Or maybe it's just a promo shot and the details will be corrected in the movies.
That's what I also hope for... I overreacted the naked Guts pic a bit, sorry.  :farnese: Maybe it's only to attract people, that's why it's different, because it simply looks cooler... But I hope they won't leave out those parts again that were left out in the old anime, because it'd be disappointing if they were never animated.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on October 18, 2011, 07:06:55 PM
I really think we should take the details of this picture (http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/comparenew02.jpg) with a grain of salt, considering how long ago it was released compared to when that scene will actually be released in a movie (2nd or 3rd.)

Good point.

But yes, the mystery of the post-Doldrey sword still remains. That sword was broken when he was training at Godo's, right?

The sword we see broken there is one of many practice swords Guts is using.

Maybe that will be skipped over(it was skipped in the old anime,) and so they will just give Guts his post-Hawks sword after Doldery and he will keep it right through the eclipse.

I hope not, since that one should be broken while he's fighting Wyald.

Or maybe it's just a promo shot and the details will be corrected in the movies.

That's the best case scenario, though there's so many differences at this point it's implausible that all them will be rectified.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on October 18, 2011, 07:48:55 PM
I hope not, since that one should be broken while he's fighting Wyald.
Oh snap that's right, they better keep that.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Bramwell on October 21, 2011, 10:29:36 AM
The sword in the guts griffith duel pic looks like his both one. It would realy suck if zodd doesnt turn up at doldrey  :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on October 21, 2011, 04:58:01 PM
Well if Zodd doesn't turn up at Doldrey then i wonder how the fight with Bosconge will go. But then again maybe these are indeed test shots and they are now going to do the final touches on most scene's. (Lets hope so!)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 21, 2011, 06:13:33 PM
maybe these are indeed test shots

Test failed. See me after class.
                  -The Berserk Community
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on October 28, 2011, 12:54:53 AM
!!!  Can someone translate this tweet by Clara?

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ちなみに、10/29(土)から全国の映画館で最新の予告編も上映されます!力強いAIさんの歌声の入った予告編、映画館で流れていたらぜひチェックしてみてくださいね。公式サイトには11/2にあっぷ予定です♪ #berserkfilm #berserk

According to google translate, this says: Incidentally, 10/29 (Sat) are also shown in the latest trailer from the movie theaters nationwide! AI's trailer containing strong voice, I try to please check out if playing in theaters. The official site ♪ Pu will meet 11 / 2 # berserkfilm # berserk

Does this mean there will be a new trailer on November 2nd on the website?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on October 28, 2011, 01:11:53 AM
Does this mean there will be a new trailer on November 2nd on the website?
I don't know, but there is for sure a new singer:
http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=209 (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=209)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(singer) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(singer))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QgUJrv-JxQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QgUJrv-JxQ)

If i understand she will sing the ending song:
[ウツクシキモノ] (this is the title)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on October 28, 2011, 05:19:52 AM
I don't know, but there is for sure a new singer:
http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=209 (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=209)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(singer) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(singer))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QgUJrv-JxQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QgUJrv-JxQ)

If i understand she will sing the ending song:
[ウツクシキモノ] (this is the title)

Sweet deal!  Also, it looks like there really is going to be a brand new THEATRICAL TRAILER.  Here's a post from Clara's Facebook:

Quote
エンディングテーマアーティストにAIが決定!

エンディングテーマ曲を、年末の「マイケル・ジャクソン・トリビュート・ライブ」への出演も決定した日本を代表するシンガー、AIさんが担当することが決定しました!
エンディングテーマはAIさんとしては、ファンタジー作品への初の書き下ろしとなった新曲「ウツクシキモノ」。「ベルセルク」としても女性アーティストと組むのは初と、お互い初同士のタイアップとなり、早くもその化学反応に周囲の期待はふくらむばかりです。
本作品のレコーディングにおいては、映画制作陣とAIさんとの間で綿密な打ち合わせが幾度となく行われ、その結果、壮大なサーガプロジェクトにふさわしい楽曲が完成。
10月29日より全国の映画館で上映される映画予告編にて、スケール感あふれるオーケストレーションにのせて力強く歌うAIさんの「ウツクシキモノ」が早くもフィーチャーされています!
この新予告編は公式サイトでは11月2日より配信開始予定です。

Translates to...

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AI to determine the ending theme for artists!

The ending theme song, by the end of "Michael Jackson Tribute Live" Japan's leading singer decided to appearances, I decided to be in charge of AI!
As AI's ending theme, the song became the first newly written piece of fantasy "Utsukushikimono". "Berserk" as a partner with the first female artist, became the first tie-up between each other, expected as early as the surrounding chemical reaction is just swelling.
The recording of this work is performed again and again close the meeting between the film's production team and AI, resulting in projects completed songs worthy of a grand saga.
Trailers will be screened in cinemas nationwide on October 29, put to belt out AI's realism scale orchestration "Utsukushikimono" is also featured early!
This new trailer at the official site planned for delivery from November 02.

A very welcomed surprise. :guts: :guts: :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on October 28, 2011, 05:40:06 AM
The newest update on the site shows a listing of theaters all across Japan that will be showing the movie, and at most you can buy advance tickets. http://www.berserkfilm.com/theater/

It's exciting to see things are moving right along, with February closing in for Japan's premiere. But there's still no concrete information on a US premiere date  :sad:.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on October 29, 2011, 01:14:09 AM
I'm a little confused. What happened to the other girl who was going to be involved in the music?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on October 29, 2011, 08:00:04 AM
It's exciting to see things are moving right along, with February closing in for Japan's premiere. But there's still no concrete information on a US premiere date  :sad:.

I think they're taking one step at a time. To me it's clear that Japan is their primary target for the movie, so I don't expect an international release (since a purely US one won't be much help to me personally :azan:) until the summer.

I'm a little confused. What happened to the other girl who was going to be involved in the music?

Her involvement with the project is probably over I guess? Or if she does something else it'll be minor.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on November 01, 2011, 03:28:46 AM
The New Trailer:

http://ch.yahoo.co.jp/warnerbros/index.php?itemid=217 (http://ch.yahoo.co.jp/warnerbros/index.php?itemid=217)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on November 01, 2011, 03:44:42 AM
Look at you, on-top of things, Raffo! That trailer kicked ass. I almost lost it when I heard Hirasawa.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on November 01, 2011, 03:48:19 AM
The New Trailer:

Thank you for this! Looks great! Some facial animations look weird (probably will be better in-context). But overall, I'm pretty exited! A full 1:40 trailer was something I've been looking forward to. Too bad I have to go to sleep so badly, I'd watch it 50 times in a row  :badbone:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on November 01, 2011, 03:48:28 AM
GODDAAAMN, thanks for sharing dude! Music's EPIC, haha.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on November 01, 2011, 04:00:06 AM
CHILLS UP THE SPINE!

the animation is very fluent! :ubik:

Zodd sounds great! :zodd:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on November 01, 2011, 04:20:01 AM
Very nice indeed. I can't wait to see the whole thing now! Thx for the quick link!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 01, 2011, 04:23:19 AM
Demand full screen 1080p !!  :guts:


Also not totally upset with the music in the trailer, hooray!  :ubik:

Excitement needs to die down before doing any further analysis.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on November 01, 2011, 04:25:32 AM
The assassination scene! Seems to be there! This part is one of my favorite in the golden age. Now I can take a breath...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on November 01, 2011, 04:58:30 AM
Oh man, I almost cried and peed myself. That trailer was amazing. The music is fantastic, the whole thing feels so epic and larger-than-life. I love Griffith's new va, a huge improvement in my opinion. Guts and Casca sound great as well.

It's weird, at first the animation seemed weird to me, like there was too much cg or something. But the more I watched, it just seems like the animation is really, really well done; it looks absolutely beautiful and really high-budget, so much so that I'm not used to seeing anime like that. I don't think I've ever seen that much work put into anime animation before. This whole thing just seems so huge. It's like Berserk went to heaven and became a god. A beautiful, divine, fucked-up god. It's crazy thinking back to 8 or 9 years ago when I first became obsessed with Berserk.. I just never in my wildest dreams could've imagined something this big happening. I'm going to masturbate to this trailer now.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on November 01, 2011, 05:02:31 AM
The assassination scene! Seems to be there! This part is one of my favorite in the golden age. Now I can take a breath...
Its one of my favorite parts too! (in fact all of berserk is too :troll:)
 
I do have one gripe though, their eyes.. Sometimes they look just fine, and other times they look weird. (slanted or something)

Other than that the trailer does look great. I especially like the scene with the white horses.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on November 01, 2011, 05:10:12 AM
Trailer Notes:

I've got a question for those of you who have every panel of the manga memorized. I thought the shot of Guts' callouses on his hand was a particularly nice shot. But was that creative liberty? Or is there a panel in the manga that details this? I just went back through the assassination of Adonis, the little boy, which is when I think Guts seems to be looking at his hand in the trailer, and couldn't find a close-up. But wholly, this isn't important. Just a curiosity on my part.

It's just downright awesome how they animated Guts walking in the entrance that leads to Zodd.

I noticed we're going to be covering the assassination, as both the trailer and jackson_hurley have pointed out, which brings to mind two really cool things. 1. The brutal murder of an innocent (as innocent as a "witness" can be) child, and 2. the last previously animated what I like to call 'the winding staircase swordfight of unlimited space.' If it's one thing 'Guts' Rage' taught any of us, it's that you can't swing a longsword just anywhere you please. Different swords, granted, but they all share a continuity of length. There are walls. And solid objects. And it made us particularly pissed at this scene in the 90s anime, when Guts could do wide slices on two separate men on a staircase. Hehehe! A fun little thing to look for in the new movie.

http://www.youtube.com/v/jKkcY6Sfz5I

The thumbnail is my only necessary point of reference for this next notice. This is one of the things I was most upset about in the first trailer, this scene. I thought Guts' face looked like a monkey, or some sort of animal. I was not pleased. I do not know if that exact style is still present, but at least in this new trailer, I have other proof that he also looks good.

The closer we get to release time, everybody, the better it is really looking. I am curious if you other fans are receiving your peace of mind. Because I certainly am.

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Cyrus Jong on November 01, 2011, 05:22:44 AM
Wasn't expecting this. Thanks for the heads-up, Raffo. Definitely the best trailer we've seen yet, and a nice breath of fresh air from those previous two abominations.

Trailer Notes:

I've got a question for those of you who have every panel of the manga memorized. I thought the shot of Guts' callouses on his hand was a particularly nice shot. But was that creative liberty? Or is there a panel in the manga that details this? I just went back through the assassination of Adonis, the little boy, which is when I think Guts seems to be looking at his hand in the trailer, and couldn't find a close-up. But wholly, this isn't important. Just a curiosity on my part.
It's a creative liberty. Guts certainly makes that position with his hand, but we don't see it from the angle in the trailer. We only see his face.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 01, 2011, 05:50:10 AM
It's a great day to be a Berserk fan!  :ubik:

Really enjoyed the trailer. Starts out with a bang, particularly upon hearing that new Susumu track kick in. But there are some parts that still bother me. The CG scenes are really sticking out more than they were before. The first time you see Guts charge on horseback (0:32), it's very jarring. And that "other" song, uh... let's just forget about it, okay guys?

There's also some liberties being taken, not all of which are bad in my opinion. But namely a Guts/Casca scene that's transposed to be in a different location, and where exactly is Griffith standing triumphantly atop? Doldrey? Doesn't make much sense. He was on the front lines, not doing the infiltration. Maybe just "some other mission."

Voice acting: Love Guts. Not a fan of how small Griffith sounds -- his voice doesn't resonate with me. It's just shrill. Casca is just so-so. No complaints about Zodd, though!

Can't wait until we see this one at 1080p. And in theaters.

PS: It's events like this that make checking SKnet right before sleeping a wholly justified act.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saephon on November 01, 2011, 05:58:18 AM
It's just downright awesome how they animated Guts walking in the entrance that leads to Zodd.


I wholeheartedly second this. The way we're presented that scene, along with the assassination and Zodd sequence right after....even the music felt okay during that part of the trailer. Someone hired a good editor. Now that my rational comments are out of the way:  I AM BECOMING LESS CYNICAL AND MORE EXCITED BY THE DAY!  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on November 01, 2011, 06:00:48 AM
HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF ALL THINGS GOOD AND BAD AND IN THIS WORLD OF EXISTENCE!!!!!!!

I loved it.  Absolutely positively LOVED IT.  Chills everywhere, I swear, and even a little teary eyed.  I kid you not.  I am man enough to admit it!  This trailer got me teary eyed!!!

It's so absolutely gorgeous.  The facial expressions, the colors, the environments, the war scenes...  It's so beautiful.

The voice acting, hell I got so lost in the moment, I totally even forgot these were new voice actors.  Everything fit for me.

And honestly, I don't need to comment on the first song (SUSUMU IS AWESOME AND THE SONG IS AWESOME AND BERSERK IS AWESOME), but I really dug the 2nd song too.  I don't know what the lyrics are, but I think it fit very beautifully with the trailer.  The scene where Charlotte hugs Griffith, and the scene where Griffith and Guts are smiling at each other like little kids... BEAUTIFUL.

I AM SO HAPPY.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on November 01, 2011, 06:14:30 AM
but I really dug the 2nd song too.  I don't know what the lyrics are, but I think it fit very beautifully with the trailer.  The scene where Charlotte hugs Griffith, and the scene where Griffith and Guts are smiling at each other like little kids... BEAUTIFUL.
I second this, it went beautifully with those scenes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on November 01, 2011, 06:15:08 AM
that "other" song, uh... let's just forget about it, okay guys?
for some reason it reminds me of Lion King :???:

but I do like it! it makes the movie look larger than life in my opinion.

Voice acting: Love Guts. Not a fan of how small Griffith sounds -- his voice doesn't resonate with me. It's just shrill. Casca is just so-so. No complaints about Zodd, though!
I agree with you 100%

Griffith should sound more.. perfect, without any flaws. If that makes any sense (probably not)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 01, 2011, 06:17:34 AM
I really dug the 2nd song too.  I don't know what the lyrics are, but I think it fit very beautifully with the trailer
I second this, it went beautifully with those scenes.
Even when Guts is walking cautiously into Zodd's death pit, and when he's slicing Zodd's arm off?  :ganishka:

I really don't mean to nitpick the song. Trailer music doesn't concern me that much. It's meant to leave an impression, and it's a good one. I just found that song's tone to be inconsistent with some of the footage being shown.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on November 01, 2011, 06:27:20 AM
Oh man, I almost cried and peed myself.

Too late. :sad:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on November 01, 2011, 07:12:03 AM
Well, time to watch it again.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on November 01, 2011, 07:15:46 AM
Well, time to watch it again.

LOLOL. I'll join ya!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 01, 2011, 07:28:24 AM
Oh my God, I just had my best party ever, haven't slept an hour all night, and then came back in the morning and
THIS IS WHAT I SEE!!!  :isidro:
Most awesome 24 hours in my life ever!! Thank you for the link, Raffo!
It's like Berserk went to heaven and became a god. A beautiful, divine, fucked-up god.
Perfect description, I was also thinking something like this but I couldn't describe it this well  :serpico:

I could write some evil critique about the CGI and those "WTF is this, there was nothing like this in the manga" scenes, but I won't, because I'm too excited...
Realistic movements, bright colors, Hirasawa's music, and good VAs... Berserk never fails to amaze me by proving it can get even more awesome than before...

And daaaamn, imagine this in a theatre!!! *faints and nosebleed* Those lucky japanese!
It's a bit off, but I'm really hoping for that they'll show this movie in cinemas in my country... I remember last year there was an anime day in one of the "Art Cinemas", and they played famous anime movies... Berserk would be worth to show in theatre!!
If this happens, and I can watch it, I think I'll almost die of awesomeness overdose...


edit: it was full of mistakes because of excitement, I'm still trying to fix them, lol...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on November 01, 2011, 07:53:41 AM
HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF ALL THINGS GOOD AND BAD AND IN THIS WORLD OF EXISTENCE!!!!!!!

I loved it.  Absolutely positively LOVED IT.  Chills everywhere, I swear, and even a little teary eyed.  I kid you not.  I am man enough to admit it!  This trailer got me teary eyed!!!

It's so absolutely gorgeous.  The facial expressions, the colors, the environments, the war scenes...  It's so beautiful.

The voice acting, hell I got so lost in the moment, I totally even forgot these were new voice actors.  Everything fit for me.

And honestly, I don't need to comment on the first song (SUSUMU IS AWESOME AND THE SONG IS AWESOME AND BERSERK IS AWESOME), but I really dug the 2nd song too.  I don't know what the lyrics are, but I think it fit very beautifully with the trailer.  The scene where Charlotte hugs Griffith, and the scene where Griffith and Guts are smiling at each other like little kids... BEAUTIFUL.

I AM SO HAPPY.

I assumed you were a fan of the song used in the second half. You would've had to been to become teary-eyed. I know this because the same sensation fell over me!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on November 01, 2011, 08:00:50 AM
It was pretty enjoyable to see it, the title of the song of the anime series "Waiting so long" is how I feel right now, for this movie to arrive. They put the name of the songs in the trailer, or just the artists name? I can't read japanese so if anyone can verify, I wold be thankful.

There's also some liberties being taken, not all of which are bad in my opinion. But namely a Guts/Casca scene that's transposed to be in a different location, and where exactly is Griffith standing triumphantly atop? Doldrey? Doesn't make much sense. He was on the front lines, not doing the infiltration. Maybe just "some other mission."

I thought Griffith was on that castle when Guts fights Basuzo, even though still he wasn't doing that, or as you said, maybe they added another mission. Also, could be Doldrey, but they sure changed the size of the castle and the mountains behind it.

Makes me wonder, if all we saw in the trailer will be in the movie, or is part of the second one as well? Depending on how long it is, it's still alot to cover.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 09:17:35 AM
It's weird, at first the animation seemed weird to me, like there was too much cg or something. But the more I watched, it just seems like the animation is really, really well done; it looks absolutely beautiful and really high-budget, so much so that I'm not used to seeing anime like that.

In some scenes the CG did jump out at me, like when Guts is charging on his horse for example, it felt like the horse was an object moving along a plane and that took me out of it. Overall though it's pretty competent.

2. the last previously animated what I like to call 'the winding staircase swordfight of unlimited space.' If it's one thing 'Guts' Rage' taught any of us, it's that you can't swing a longsword just anywhere you please. Different swords, granted, but they all share a continuity of length. There are walls. And solid objects. And it made us particularly pissed at this scene in the 90s anime, when Guts could do wide slices on two separate men on a staircase. Hehehe! A fun little thing to look for in the new movie.

The '97 series merely replicated the scene from the manga. The staircase isn't that narrow and Guts slashes the first guard vertically before cutting down the second one horizontally.

And that "other" song, uh... let's just forget about it, okay guys?

I didn't mind it.

But namely a Guts/Casca scene that's transposed to be in a different location

They also changed the dialogue.

where exactly is Griffith standing triumphantly atop? Doldrey? Doesn't make much sense. He was on the front lines, not doing the infiltration. Maybe just "some other mission."

Doesn't look like Doldrey at all and I doubt we'll see it in the first movie anyway, so it's got to be something else. Hopefully they didn't change the outcome of the battle during which Guts defeated Bazûso (where the Band of the Falcon lost), so that would mean something they added. Probably when Guts gets that feather he's got tucked in his cape at 1:15 as well.

Voice acting: Love Guts. Not a fan of how small Griffith sounds -- his voice doesn't resonate with me. It's just shrill. Casca is just so-so. No complaints about Zodd, though!

I like Guts; I dug the previous guy but the new one does a great job as well. I haven't listened to them side by side but I think they sound relatively similar anyway. Not a fan of the new Griffith either though (sounds like he speaks through the nose to me); I prefer the former voice actor. As for Casca, I think it's an improvement. Not that the old voice actress was bad, but her voice was too shrill.

They put the name of the songs in the trailer, or just the artists name? I can't read japanese so if anyone can verify, I wold be thankful.

Yeah, the names are in there. Hirasawa's song is titled "Aria". A.I.'s is "ウツクシキモノ" which means "Something Beautiful" or "Someone Beautiful" (or "A Beautiful Thing/Person").

Makes me wonder, if all we saw in the trailer will be in the movie, or is part of the second one as well? Depending on how long it is, it's still alot to cover.

Not that long really, considering the parts they're skipping. I'm still pretty concerned about how they're slicing the story and what they're adding/removing.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on November 01, 2011, 11:00:32 AM
I eagerly await for a kind hearted (and very beautiful) person to translate the trailer for us. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on November 01, 2011, 11:03:17 AM
What an Awesome trailer! I wish they'd uploaded a 720p version or higher   :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on November 01, 2011, 12:16:59 PM
I don't know what you b-holes are talking about. That second song ruled.

I was very happy with this trailer. I was like, "YES. YES YES YES YES YES....."

I'm somehow not upset about the additions / changes. Though I am worried. I loved the triumphant Griffith shot. And I kinda like Guts and Casca in that pretty ... area.

Yeah, I mean I recognize most of the dialogue but if someone could sub a YouTube video, that would rule, directdk.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on November 01, 2011, 12:44:15 PM
I liked both songs, with an obvious preference to Hirasawa's work. Although, the second song seems more like something of an emotional reflective song at times, a little like the Guts theme from the old anime that Hirasawa was responsible for.

This new trailer has reaffirmed my faith. Although there are some niggles which may irritate some of the more thorough manga readers, they appear minor to me in this trailer, so long as it doesn't change the course of the original story like the old anime by backing itself into a corner and maintains this epic high budget feel, I should be happy.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 01, 2011, 12:50:03 PM
Both songs sound pretty good. Agreed on choice of footage for the second song. Maybe not the best. Definetly need to hear the entire Susumu track!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 01:21:38 PM
Although there are some niggles which may irritate some of the more thorough manga readers, they appear minor to me in this trailer, so long as it doesn't change the course of the original story like the old anime by backing itself into a corner and maintains this epic high budget feel, I should be happy.

At this point I can't say that this movie seems much more faithful to the manga than the TV series was. Nor would I say that the changes are minor when scenes take place in different locations with altered dialogue or when we don't know where some of the footage is from. Not that it'll necessarily ruin the experience or anything, but I don't think your comparison is fair here.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on November 01, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
At this point I can't say that this movie seems much more faithful to the manga than the TV series was. Nor would I say that the changes are minor when scenes take place in different locations with altered dialogue or when we don't know where some of the footage is from. Not that it'll necessarily ruin the experience or anything, but I don't think your comparison is fair here.

My version of minor, may differ from another Aaz. I know many people aren't too happy to see new or altered scenes, but they appear to be minor or forgivable alterations if it means keeping the film to a specific running time and progressing the plot in the same direction by my standards. I agree, we can't say that's it's going to be more faithful than the 97 series but provided it continues after the eclipse, which seems possible with the inclusion of Skull Knight so far and is higher in quality than it was 14 years ago, then I would have little to complain about and I'll be grateful it's being made at all.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Bramwell on November 01, 2011, 02:43:26 PM
Love it! I like when guts introduces himself to griffith. Hes got an I dont give a fuck if you know my name or not tone to it.

Bad ass trailer, Cant wait  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 02:46:16 PM
My version of minor, may differ from another Aaz. I know many people aren't too happy to see new or altered scenes, but they appear to be minor or forgivable alterations if it means keeping the film to a specific running time and progressing the plot in the same direction by my standards.

I'm sorry but there's no "version" of what minor means, especially in the context of your comparison. It was just an unwarranted understatement on your part, of the kind that's been recurring in discussions about the movie ever since the first footage was shown. And I don't see how transposing that scene of Guts & Casca getting into an argument to another location would have any effect on what you mention.

I agree, we can't say that's it's going to be more faithful than the 97 series but provided it continues after the eclipse, which seems possible with the inclusion of Skull Knight so far and is higher in quality than it was 14 years ago, then I would have little to complain about and I'll be grateful it's being made at all.

They announced very early on that they planned on animating the entire series, so there's no need to guess here. Yet at the same time, I think it's too early to start dreaming about it. Whether it's made or not depends on how successful the movies will be, and is way beyond the scope of this first movie's faithfulness to the manga. So I'm glad you're "grateful it's being made at all" but that's irrelevant. Again, some people have been saying this as a means to justify their eagerness to overlook any possible problem with the movie ever since it was announced. That's fine by me, but if that's all it comes down to then they shouldn't pretend to assess whether the changes made matter or not (since nothing will bother them).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Julalien on November 01, 2011, 02:56:19 PM
HOLY SWEET MOTHER OF ALL THINGS GOOD AND BAD AND IN THIS WORLD OF EXISTENCE!!!!!!!

I loved it.  Absolutely positively LOVED IT.  Chills everywhere, I swear, and even a little teary eyed.  I kid you not.  I am man enough to admit it!  This trailer got me teary eyed!!!

It's so absolutely gorgeous.  The facial expressions, the colors, the environments, the war scenes...  It's so beautiful.

The voice acting, hell I got so lost in the moment, I totally even forgot these were new voice actors.  Everything fit for me.

And honestly, I don't need to comment on the first song (SUSUMU IS AWESOME AND THE SONG IS AWESOME AND BERSERK IS AWESOME), but I really dug the 2nd song too.  I don't know what the lyrics are, but I think it fit very beautifully with the trailer.  The scene where Charlotte hugs Griffith, and the scene where Griffith and Guts are smiling at each other like little kids... BEAUTIFUL.

I AM SO HAPPY.

I can't describe my reaction to the trailer any better than this. I was really happy with Zodd's voice in particular. I never liked how he was handled in the television series and this new interpretation of Zodd is much closer to how I imagined he would sound. Casca and Griffith sound good as well but I felt that Guts sounds exceptional. I'm really looking forward to hearing more how the actor handles Guts' character as the series goes on. Susumu Hirasawa's new song is transcendent, as usual, and I also liked AI's song as well. I felt her song was beautiful in combination with the quick shot from the assasination scene and the close-ups of Guts and Griffith from their first meeting towards the end of the trailer.

I was in absolute shock over how cool the trailer was while watching it but the sunlight-pierced title card at the end really killed me in terms of inducing misty man tears. I'm absolutely importing this as soon as the home video release hits Japan. If not for anything but to at least help support the studio so that they keep animating the story past the Golden Age arc. Its great seeing younger Guts, but its high time for the Black Swordsman to get up on the screen for longer than the single-episode teaser we got so long ago in the television series. :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on November 01, 2011, 03:35:38 PM
Seeing as the trailer's definite of what will appear in the first part of the movie (please don't kill me if it's not! ... like those CM's had possible footage of future arcs) where in the story do you think this movie will end? End of Volume 6 perhaps?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Skullgrin140 on November 01, 2011, 03:50:26 PM
Having just watched the Trailer, I am very impressed by what has been shown. My hopes are quite high for this movie and the hopes that it might be successful. Seeing so many new additional changes in Berserk in anime form again is rather interesting, from the sounds of it the cast is very well selected and I am also impressed with the lead Seiyu for Guts. Even though I wanted the old cast back I get the feeling the new ensemble cast will do a good job.

The animation I will admit still bothers me with the mix of 2D & CG, I'm more into the older form of traditional animation for anime but I think this hits the nail perfectly. The movements for some of the characters in cel shaded CG looks pretty good not to mention the animation for this looks abundant and quite colorful as well as alive. 

One other thing, hearing Susumu Hirasawa in Berserk is something great to hear after all these years and the new song is pretty powerful from what very little we heard, Hopefully somewhere in the film there will be enough room for Forces. The other song by AI is a nice new addition as well to bring to the table.

But overall the trailer is very good, I think we are in for something spectacular and we are getting something Berserk has needed for a very long time.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on November 01, 2011, 04:04:15 PM
I'm sorry but there's no "version" of what minor means, especially in the context of your comparison. It was just an unwarranted understatement on your part, of the kind that's been recurring in discussions about the movie ever since the first footage was shown. And I don't see how transposing that scene of Guts & Casca getting into an argument to another location would have any effect on what you mention.

You may assess my comparison as being an understatement and that's your opinion, much in the same way that I'm entitled to one. The studio (and perhaps Miura, if he had any creative input at all for the production) obviously decided there's a reason to take this direction for either the theatrical purpose of the film itself or to adjust the story to fit in the time allowed. It's unlikely that they thought they would add scenes for the sake of adding them unless they have a specific reason. What I'm saying is, I'm hopeful that their changes would not be detrimental to the original source material and may become a minor change when considered in the grand scheme of things. This is coming from the perspective of someone who will be open minded about creative changes of a director provided they work on the whole.

Also, I'm aware they announced early on that they intend to do as much of the manga as possible. I'm also aware that this is dependent on the success of the first three films they have in production, since this isn't a charity based fan service, it's business. I also find it insulting that I'm seemingly being naive and letting things slide. I have my issues and gripes with the production like I would anything else, I'm just not as much of an analyst as some of the more (for lack of a better word) zealous Berserk fans and can remain optimistic about some changes if they are deemed necessary. Whether or not this rings true will only be found in the final cut of the film. My optimism can also stem from the fact that one key character that was cut from the previous series, has been shown as having a place this time around and is more likely to make an appearance where it matters to make the continuation possible.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 04:45:46 PM
I was really happy with Zodd's voice in particular. I never liked how he was handled in the television series and this new interpretation of Zodd is much closer to how I imagined he would sound.

Hehehe yeah they invested into some special sound effects this time instead of having the voice actor try to sound like a monster. :void:

Its great seeing younger Guts, but its high time for the Black Swordsman to get up on the screen for longer than the single-episode teaser we got so long ago in the television series. :guts:

Amen to that, but that won't be for a while. A long while...

Seeing as the trailer's definite of what will appear in the first part of the movie (please don't kill me if it's not! ... like those CM's had possible footage of future arcs) where in the story do you think this movie will end? End of Volume 6 perhaps?

Somewhere in volume 6 would be my guess (after the assassination for example). It doesn't have to be the end.

Hopefully somewhere in the film there will be enough room for Forces.

I wouldn't count on that.

You may assess my comparison as being an understatement

I'm not "assessing your comparison", what I said was an understatement was to call the changes "minor". Don't try making smart-sounding sentences if you don't even understand what you're saying.

that's your opinion, much in the same way that I'm entitled to one.

Ah, the old classic. Nothing can better express the lack of a valid argument.

The studio (and perhaps Miura, if he had any creative input at all for the production) obviously decided there's a reason to take this direction for either the theatrical purpose of the film itself or to adjust the story to fit in the time allowed. It's unlikely that they thought they would add scenes for the sake of adding them unless they have a specific reason. What I'm saying is, I'm hopeful that their changes would not be detrimental to the original source material and may become a minor change when considered in the grand scheme of things. This is coming from the perspective of someone who will be open minded about creative changes of a director provided they work on the whole.

What you're saying is that you're guessing there's a good reason for it. Despite the verbosity that's all it amounts to. Only your uninformed guesses don't hold any ground in regard to the changes the scene underwent, as you would have known had you thought about it a little before posting. But please, why don't you elaborate on how changing that scene is supposed to help the "theatrical purpose" or to "adjust the story to fit in the time allowed"? Hell, what does that even mean? Shortening the movie? Because if so, it seems to me that it's rather lengthening it, probably in order to evenly distribute the material from the manga between the 3 movies (as said material doesn't readily lend itself to making a movie trilogy, especially since they're apparently cutting off the beginning of the arc). So yeah, how does changing the characters' posture, attitude, dialogue help achieve anything? And why is it minor to you? What would it take for a change to be significant?

I also find it insulting that I'm seemingly being naive and letting things slide. I have my issues and gripes with the production like I would anything else, I'm just not as much of an analyst as some of the more (for lack of a better word) zealous Berserk fans and can remain optimistic about some changes if they are deemed necessary.

It's not insulting so much as it is the truth. And what should I think of your attempts to present yourself as a reasonable man opposed to "zealots"? Is that a compliment? Futhermore, I don't think it takes being an analyst to find it odd that they changed a scene to that extent, nor that there's footage we can't even identify. Anyway, what surprises me here is your eagerness to deem changes necessary without having been provided with any reason for them. Stockholm's syndrome, as Walter puts it.

My optimism can also stem from the fact that one key character that was cut from the previous series, has been shown as having a place this time around and is more likely to make an appearance where it matters to make the continuation possible.

And it's sad because that's actually not much at all. And again it's not relevant to the rest of the conversation.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 01, 2011, 04:50:59 PM
While I'm ever more excited this is actually happening, I'm also becoming increasingly wary about what exactly is happening, or more to the point, what we're getting. Subjective opinions aside (Griffith sounds like a nerd), a lot of the visuals look weird and even jarring in places, but I don't care so much about that as the fact that seemingly everything is somehow different or out of place, sometimes drastically. But, ya know, other than that it's clearly the definitive version of Berserk. :griffnotevil:

Anyway, my excitement is tempered by my adjusting expectations, because while I'll certainly enjoy this for what it is (like most anyone else here they had me at "berserk movie"), it probably won't be the faithful adaptation of Berserk I've been hoping for. That can be okay too, let's just not kid ourselves.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 01, 2011, 05:10:57 PM
Ok, I'm less excited now, so I can start complaining...  :ganishka:

The CG still looks... strange?... Maybe that's the good word for it... Looks very different from the 2D parts, especially when there's both in one scene, eg. when the horses are CG but people are not - the lines on the CG parts are thinner and also the colors are different... I don't like it, looks unprofessional (? does this word exist?)
It seems that they put a lot effort and money into the 2D parts, because they are beautiful both in details and animation. I also like that characters' mouth moves "normally" when speaking, not that simple open-close movement like in usual animes.
The VAs sound good for me, I like them.
The changes... I don't mind them yet, they don't look very radical... I don't mind if they change the background of a scene to make it cooler, also if they write in some new missions, but I really hope they won't leave out anything important from the storyline.

Seeing as the trailer's definite of what will appear in the first part of the movie (please don't kill me if it's not! ... like those CM's had possible footage of future arcs) where in the story do you think this movie will end? End of Volume 6 perhaps?
I'd also guess this... It's kinda disappointing, because it means we still have to wait for some Kushan and Baakiraka action. I'd really like to finally see Silat animated!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Dar Klink on November 01, 2011, 05:25:59 PM
I eagerly await for a kind hearted (and very beautiful) person to translate the trailer for us. :griffnotevil:
Found this on the anime board on 4chan, can't say it's a good translation, so take it for what it is.
Quote
>A man who believed in nothing but his sword
>Griffith: I'm Griffith. What's your name?
>Guts: Guts.
>Met a hawk who wished to ascend to the heavens
>Some speaker: Abandoning your comrades and facing the enemy head-on!?
>Griffith: Could you accompany me?
>The meeting of the two was predestined by fate
>Griffith: I will obtain my own country.
>The pulse of destiny has started to beat
>Griffith: I will decide where you should die.
>Casca: What're you trying to do? Your selfish recklessness could endanger the whole Band of the Hawk. You haven't changed at all. As long as you can wave that sword on the battlefield, you need nothing else!
>Guts: No! I'm not the same man I used to be!
>He decided to fight together with his comrades
>Zodd: What awaits you is death! Death that you can't escape from!
>Nobody can sever the bond between us
>Griffith: Fight for me. You're mine after all.
>Voice-over: As that bond continues to deepen, the footfalls of ruin draw closer.
>The "springtime of life" in the midst of bloodshed
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 05:53:53 PM
unprofessional (? does this word exist?)

It does. Online dictionaries also do.

The changes... I don't mind them yet, they don't look very radical... I don't mind if they change the background of a scene to make it cooler, also if they write in some new missions, but I really hope they won't leave out anything important from the storyline.

I don't find that random field with a dolmen thrown-in for good measure to be cooler than the place the scene was originally set in (a town shortly after the Band of the Falcon came back victorious and before Griffith was made a knight). Also, changing the dialogue and the tone of the conversation, with Guts facing away from Casca and looking at his feet, then later looking like he's on the verge of crying when he grabs her wrist, means it profoundly differs from what the original scene conveyed. In the manga, Casca calls him a mad dog and he angrily dares her to repeat what she said. Then Griffith arrives and she leaves. After that, Guts tells Griffith that he's changed and that he cares about his comrades. The whole point of the scene is to underline the communication problem Guts & Casca have (and have had ever since they first met), preparing the reader for their later bonding after they both fall into the river following their first encounter with Adon. Given the new context it's also not sure Carcus and his crew will be present (overhearing and trying to gain Casca to their cause), which would take away from his character (as well as Casca's, since her reaction was telling).

Now I understand those things may not seem to be important parts of the storyline to you at first glance, but they are. They contribute to Berserk's depth.

I'd also guess this... It's kinda disappointing, because it means we still have to wait for some Kushan and Baakiraka action. I'd really like to finally see Silat animated!

Really, it was unrealistic to expect events from volume 9 to be present in the first movie. There's two more to go, remember. Also, I hope you won't take it too badly if Silat & the Bakiraka are replaced and other people tell you they don't mind the changes. :iva:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 01, 2011, 06:21:20 PM
Now I understand those things may not seem to be important parts of the storyline to you at first glance, but they are. They contribute to Berserk's depth.
I didn't say that they aren't important! I know everything is important in Berserk, it's something you cut out one part of and the whole universe would collide - and we don't want it...
I'm just saying that the changes don't look like they'll influence the story... And it already looks to be much more faithful to the manga that the '97 anime, so they seem to be acceptable.
By the way, does anyone know how much they consult with Miura about this adaptation? Maybe he agreed the changes/they were his ideas...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 01, 2011, 06:22:17 PM
The studio (and perhaps Miura, if he had any creative input at all for the production) obviously decided there's a reason to take this direction for either the theatrical purpose of the film itself or to adjust the story to fit in the time allowed.
Which one do you think made the executive decision to turn the Hawks' insignia into a Hawk's Foot?

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/hawk_insignia1.jpg)

I guess for the sake of meeting the running time, changes had to be made!

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/hawk_insignia2.jpg)
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/hawk_insignia2a.jpg)

It also transforms a few times in this scene. Maybe that feather on Guts chest is a sign that it's evolving before our eyes, and will soon hop away?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 06:26:39 PM
I'm just saying that the changes don't look like they'll influence the story...

Didn't the post you just replied to actually explain how they might influence it?

And it already looks to be much more faithful to the manga that the '97 anime

Not that the TV series is much of a reference, but how so? What parts look "much more faithful" to you?

By the way, does anyone know how much they consult with Miura about this adaptation? Maybe he agreed the changes/they were his ideas...

He participated but we don't know to what extent.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 01, 2011, 06:51:02 PM
I'm just saying that the changes don't look like they'll influence the story... And it already looks to be much more faithful to the manga that the '97 anime, so they seem to be acceptable.

That's highly debatable at this point, the '97 anime is looking more faithful than ever. For as much credit as this new endeavor deserves for including Skull Knight and presumably others previously cut, the good of that will be mitigated if his and every other scene has been otherwise radically altered. Those drastic, arbitrary changes of the '97 anime have been cited among its grievous offenses, but compared to what we've seen of the new adaptation those instances in the old series suddenly seem relatively few. I'm saving final judgement until I see the finished product put together in context, but the red flags are already there. Strange that the consensus seems to be that everything is looking perfect despite all evidence to the contrary.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on November 01, 2011, 07:30:08 PM
Good post Walter. Check this out -

(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/untitled-5-2.jpg)

The color from his cape transposed itself probably ^_^.

Their combined attack on Zodd looks pretty quick and Guts seems super agile as if he had no battle damage.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
The color from his cape transposed itself probably ^_^.

The cloak is just floating almost perfectly horizontally (so you can't see its dark inside color), but you can still see it if you look carefully. It's nothing special.

Their combined attack on Zodd looks pretty quick and Guts seems super agile as if he had no battle damage.

Yeah, they look like they're dashing in hyper-speed, but that however does not bother me too much. Most of the fights seem to be exaggerated and dramatized for the sake of on-screen coolness. This kind of change feels more warranted than what we were talking about earlier, even though you're right to mention that Guts, being wounded, should not be able to move like that.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on November 01, 2011, 08:04:52 PM
I'm not "assessing your comparison", what I said was an understatement was to call the changes "minor". Don't try making smart-sounding sentences if you don't even understand what you're saying.

As I said, you're "assessing" my definition of "minor" as a "comparison" to yours. For example, some people may blow one little detail out of proportion like it's going to change the course of history, where as some may consider it minor. My scale of these details are obviouskly a big variable to yours.

Ah, the old classic. Nothing can better express the lack of a valid argument.

This goes back to my above comment based on personal views, it's an opinion based on my scale. Don't try to pigeon hole me as if I don't have a valid argument, especially when it was purely an observational comment on my excitement based on a single trailer. If you don't agree with my statements, that's fine, but it would be appreciated if you didn't try to belittle me for just passing a comment.

What you're saying is that you're guessing there's a good reason for it. Despite the verbosity that's all it amounts to. Only your uninformed guesses don't hold any ground in regard to the changes the scene underwent, as you would have known had you thought about it a little before posting. But please, why don't you elaborate on how changing that scene is supposed to help the "theatrical purpose" or to "adjust the story to fit in the time allowed"? Hell, what does that even mean? Shortening the movie? Because if so, it seems to me that it's rather lengthening it, probably in order to evenly distribute the material from the manga between the 3 movies (as said material doesn't readily lend itself to making a movie trilogy, especially since they're apparently cutting off the beginning of the arc). So yeah, how does changing the characters' posture, attitude, dialogue help achieve anything? And why is it minor to you? What would it take for a change to be significant?

You could say that I'm basing this on the assumption that someone is trying to be creative by bridging scenes with an entirely new scene. As an example, if anyone was to see a brief clip of the old anime that wasn't in the original manga (e.g replacing Wyald in favour of someone different to reveal Griffith in his tortured state) without initially understanding the reason the changes took place, they would be questioning "why?" as well. Whatever way you look at it, to fit the entire Golden Age in word for word and scene for scene in a theatrical release, even across three films is going to have restraints and they are going to need to adjust things to how they see fit. If you believe my guessing is incorrect, then I would believe your assumptions are there are no reasons for these changes and the people responsible for them are a bunch of incompetent monkeys. As for my opinion on major changes? That takes me back to the removal of key characters, but I admit we have yet to see Silat or Wyald in any form.  

It's not insulting so much as it is the truth. And what should I think of your attempts to present yourself as a reasonable man opposed to "zealots"? Is that a compliment? Futhermore, I don't think it takes being an analyst to find it odd that they changed a scene to that extent, nor that there's footage we can't even identify. Anyway, what surprises me here is your eagerness to deem changes necessary without having been provided with any reason for them. Stockholm's syndrome, as Walter puts it.

As I said, "Zealot" was for lack of a better expression and this comes from the fact that you're obviously offended by the changes taking place enough to quote me and seemingly label me as naive, just because I'm not as bothered as about the changes as you are. Do I like the changes? Not necessarily, we'll see once the film is released. But can I stomach the changes I've seen so far? More so than some other manga to anime translations (looking at the original Hellsing and in some cases Initial D).

And it's sad because that's actually not much at all. And again it's not relevant to the rest of the conversation.
How is this not relevant to the rest of the conversation?.

Which one do you think made the executive decision to turn the Hawks' insignia into a Hawk's Foot?

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/hawk_insignia1.jpg)


You see, now that is an odd choice. Obviously it's coming under the same detailed issue of Guts' narrow ankle in the face of with Griffith in previous shots, as it's a bit inconsistent with other parts of the trailer

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Jezza_HR/hawks.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 01, 2011, 08:38:49 PM
Ya I wasn't worried they'd mess with the Hawks logo. *checks huge tat on his back* Heh... phew.  :troll:


I'm still reserving analysis for that 1080p upload, some of the visual irregularities might look different in higher res *crosses fingers*, like an optical illusion maybe, remember what we were saying about the ~36 second trailer? What's taking http://www.berserkfilm.com (http://www.berserkfilm.com) so long? :puck:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 09:01:52 PM
As I said, you're "assessing" my definition of "minor" as a "comparison" to yours.

Yeah right. :ganishka:

For example, some people may blow one little detail out of proportion like it's going to change the course of history, where as some may consider it minor. My scale of these details are obviouskly a big variable to yours.

Awww, weren't you saying you felt insulted earlier? Again then how am I supposed to take this pathetic attempt at making valid concerns look unreasonable as opposed to your lack-of-standards approach? I'll repeat what I already told you: if you don't care about what changes take place then don't come here and pretend to assess whether said changes matter or not.

This goes back to my above comment based on personal views, it's an opinion based on my scale. Don't try to pigeon hole me as if I don't have a valid argument, especially when it was purely an observational comment on my excitement based on a single trailer.

You said the changes appeared minor, I disagreed and even explained why they matter, you have no argument as to why they're minor beyond saying it's your opinion. That's all there is to it.

You could say that I'm basing this on the assumption that someone is trying to be creative by bridging scenes with an entirely new scene. As an example, if anyone was to see a brief clip of the old anime that wasn't in the original manga (e.g replacing Wyald in favour of someone different to reveal Griffith in his tortured state) without initially understanding the reason the changes took place, they would be questioning "why?" as well.

And how is that supposed to justify the change? In the end they did remove Wyald. Is that your reasoning for the modified scene? That it compensates for something else they removed (completely implausible)? Very reassuring. Or maybe you consider Wyald's removal to be minor as well?

Whatever way you look at it, to fit the entire Golden Age in word for word and scene for scene in a theatrical release, even across three films is going to have restraints and they are going to need to adjust things to how they see fit.

That's never been the point, nor did anybody ever expect that. I do expect some level of faithfulness though, and it's not being met as far as that scene's concerned. You're still failing to explain how transposing that scene elsewhere and changing its tone and dialogue is at all necessary. The original scene was already effectively "bridging" the battle and its aftermath with Griffith being made a knight. More importantly, it was an important step in the development of Guts & Casca's relationship.

If you believe my guessing is incorrect, then I would believe your assumptions are there are no reasons for these changes and the people responsible for them are a bunch of incompetent monkeys. As for my opinion on major changes? That takes me back to the removal of key characters, but I admit we have yet to see Silat or Wyald in any form.

So changes that affect how the main characters' relationship is portrayed don't matter to you. Ok. As for what I believe myself, it's simple: I don't know why they changed that scene and I don't pretend to, unlike you. But I know it alters the way Guts & Casca's exchange goes down, and I can't think of a good reason why. I also know based on my knowledge of the series that it is a key scene for their relationship, and so I am concerned about the change. A pretty natural reaction for a "fan" I think.

As I said, "Zealot" was for lack of a better expression and this comes from the fact that you're obviously offended by the changes taking place enough to quote me and seemingly label me as naive, just because I'm not as bothered as about the changes as you are.

I'm not offended so much as perplexed, and I didn't call you naive but I did call you out on your self-professed lack of standards.

How is this not relevant to the rest of the conversation?

Because having featured the Skull Knight in a promotional video does not mean this movie, which will not contain any footage of the Skull Knight, is especially faithful to the manga. It also has absolutely nothing to do with the changes we're talking about.

You see, now that is an odd choice. Obviously it's coming under the same detailed issue of Guts' narrow ankle in the face of with Griffith in previous shots, as it's a bit inconsistent with other parts of the trailer

Yeah man, THAT is odd, not like those other unimportant issues!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 01, 2011, 09:26:27 PM
You see, now that is an odd choice. Obviously it's coming under the same detailed issue of Guts' narrow ankle in the face of with Griffith in previous shots, as it's a bit inconsistent with other parts of the trailer
I'm still reserving analysis for that 1080p upload, some of the visual irregularities might look different in higher res *crosses fingers*, like an optical illusion maybe, remember what we were saying about the ~36 second trailer?
Up-resing the video quality won't improve the insignia. The definition of it is quite clear. It's inconsistently drawn in the trailer, likely due to animation constraints. I guess it wasn't an important enough detail to fill out.  :puck:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: MrSmit on November 01, 2011, 09:27:11 PM
@JezzaX

I've lurked here long enough to know that you shouldn't ever try to argue with Aaz, Griffith, or Walter.

BTW, I loved the trailer.  :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 01, 2011, 09:49:04 PM
Up-resing the video quality won't improve the insignia.

Clearly not, but some of the other ones, like when Guts is charging on his horse, will hopefully look more natural. Just stayin' positive really, hard not to have high hopes.


Quote
The definition of it is quite clear. It's inconsistently drawn in the trailer, likely due to animation constraints. I guess it wasn't an important enough detail to fill out.  :puck:

Guess not, and ironically I'm not that concerned as long as in the end the Hawks logo is made clear to the viewer overall I suppose...

It's more annoying the more I think about it, but the feather on Guts is more annoying.  :azan:
What the fuck is that for and why? Maybe Guts is jealous of Griffith's pretty pendant and wanted an avatar of his own.  :ganishka:

Scenes cleverly edited to contain more of the original story is clearly okay with me, but that feather seems like it has to be just added to in exchange for less of the original story.... because some jerks thought it was better than some of the original material I guess.

Frustrating, though it does look sorta cool, he can't keep that throughout the Eclipse at least. Ugh, I feel my expectations dropping somehow. My emotions on this saga are confusing to the point of agitation.





What do people think the chances are that Miura would have allowed or perhaps even requested changes like these be made for a conversion to a theatrical trilogy? At all likely?  :???:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on November 01, 2011, 09:49:25 PM
@JezzaX

I've lurked here long enough to know that you shouldn't ever try to argue with Aaz, Griffith, or Walter.

BTW, I loved the trailer.  :guts:

Oh, I've done it several times before with little in ways of a successful result, but it can sometimes be fun to try.

Aaz, it's obvious that no matter how much I try to explain myself we're going to go round in circles, as I know that you're more stubborn with these things than me. Let's just say I'm happy to accept the changes for what they are so far, if that's an issue, then that's not my problem.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Miracles on November 01, 2011, 09:50:34 PM
I watched the trailer a couple times this morning, and I was pretty pleased with what I saw. That being said, after re-watching it, and seeing the errors mentioned, I am a little disappointed. Mainly because they told us they wanted to be "More faithful" to the source material.

Reserving complete judgement for after I've seen this first film though.

(also: yay, first post!)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: MrSmit on November 01, 2011, 10:17:25 PM


(also: yay, first post!)

Welcome to SK.net  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 01, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
It's more annoying the more I think about it, but the feather on Guts is more annoying.  :azan:
What the fuck is that for and why?

New material for the movie. Same with Griffith raising his sword atop a castle, and probably Rickert's secret mission as well. Like I was telling JezzaX a little earlier, one hypothesis that occurred to me is that they might have needed some "filler" to lengthen the movie a bit due to the removal (or severe abbreviation) of Guts' childhood and the need to keep material for the second and third movies (this brings back the question of how they'll cut the footage between each movie, and specifically where they'll start the third one). Of course I'm still hoping his childhood is going to be featured, but it doesn't feel very likely at this point... Makes me wonder how they'll address the references to Gambino that come up later on, not to mention that Guts' rape as a child is a very important element of his early personality, and a key part of his relationship with Casca and how she "cured" him of his demons.

Omitting all of that would be pretty terrible.

Scenes cleverly edited to contain more of the original story is clearly okay with me, but that feather seems like it has to be just added to in exchange for less of the original story.... because some jerks thought it was better than some of the original material I guess.

I'm not going to call anybody names (yet), but we're indeed not in a situation where they're compressing the story so that the movie can contain more of it.

What do people think the chances are that Miura would have allowed or perhaps even requested changes like these be made for a conversion to a theatrical trilogy? At all likely? :???:

I really doubt he requested any changes. Approved them, though? Maybe, who knows. Although my gut feeling would be that he inherently disapproves of any big change to the story, but would not stand in the way of the team working on the movie, feeling that the work of a mangaka and that of a movie director are completely different and therefore that it's not his place to boss them around.

Aaz, it's obvious that no matter how much I try to explain myself we're going to go round in circles, as I know that you're more stubborn with these things than me. Let's just say I'm happy to accept the changes for what they are so far, if that's an issue, then that's not my problem.

I think the key here is not that I'm stubborn but that I'm right. :slan: But sure, I understand that you don't mind the changes so far. Good for you.

I watched the trailer a couple times this morning, and I was pretty pleased with what I saw. That being said, after re-watching it, and seeing the errors mentioned, I am a little disappointed. Mainly because they told us they wanted to be "More faithful" to the source material.

Reserving complete judgement for after I've seen this first film though.

Hey there Miracles, welcome! Yeah, their statement that they'd be super faithful certainly doesn't help. Hopefully things will turn out better than expected when we see the actual movie. I know I'll try to go in with a neutral mindset.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on November 01, 2011, 10:36:05 PM
I think the key here is not that I'm stubborn but that I'm right. :slan: .

This sounds like every girlfriend I ever got into an argument with. My usual response was a very sarcastic "Yes dear" :iva:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 01, 2011, 11:09:35 PM
This sounds like every girlfriend I ever got into an argument with. My usual response was a very sarcastic "Yes dear" :iva:

The question is why haven't WE broken up with you yet?

It seriously grosses me out that you're trying to twist your bias for accepting anything about the new movie into some winning position for lack of a cogent argument concerning the facts and or reality. There's changes, they present challenges, so saying what amounts "it's all for the greater good" isn't an opinion, it's just mindless. All the scare quotes and attempts to make the conversation so abstract it becomes meaningless won't change that, "It's all subjective, that's just what you think I think you think I think you think, maaaaaan." Combine that with your smarmy attempt to win the day in stupid fashion against our most useful member and I've had about enough. I don't care what you think about the movie, but stick to that and drop the attitude before I dump your ass.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on November 01, 2011, 11:37:56 PM
The question is why haven't WE broken up with you yet?

It seriously grosses me out that you're trying to twist your bias for accepting anything about the new movie into some winning position for lack of a cogent argument concerning the facts and or reality. There's changes, they present challenges, so saying what amounts "it's all for the greater good" isn't an opinion, it's just mindless. All the scare quotes and attempts to make the conversation so abstract it becomes meaningless won't change that, "It's all subjective, that's just what you think I think you think I think you think, maaaaaan." Combine that with your smarmy attempt to win the day in stupid fashion against our most useful member and I've had about enough. I don't care what you think about the movie, but stick to that and drop the attitude before I dump your ass.

I see no reason as to why my tongue-in-cheek remark should be seen as so insulting by people here. I made a comment about my views on what I had seen, which I believed to be fairly innocent and I was called out on them, asking to explain myself. I explained myself as the way I see fit and it seems to be illogical for some reason. I gave in on explaining myself to Aaz as I can only see it escalating, since despite having a logical answer in my head, it's very difficult to describe it in a way that seems to be understood on these pages and wouldn't come to a full conclusion.

I was very happy that the day started the way it did with a new trailer (which was welcome with open arms after having to deal with my mum going under the knife today) for one of my favourite series, it helped me through the day somewhat. And the fact I can see good in the production appears to be a problem with others here and continues to being growing into a problem where I find myself confused as to why I'm supposed to be something of a villain, which has really killed that appreciation somewhat. If that many people have an issue with what I consider to be just an opinion and would rather I didn't try and enjoy the excitement surrounding the series, then by all means erase my profile, since I would rather not have to try and defend myself against something that I considered at first to be so petty only to be escalated into what now seems like such a big issue.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lithrael on November 02, 2011, 12:11:29 AM
Dear dear me!  You must understand, Jezza - no one will ever say you're not entitled to your opinion, but everyone is allowed to disagree with it if they want.  You're not a villain just because your enthusiasm causes you to be forgiving towards the project.  Aaz & co aren't trolling you, they're just very demanding of any production that might dare to put its name & work under the official face of Berserk. 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on November 02, 2011, 12:37:45 AM
Come on guys, this is supposed to be a constructive thread on one of the greatest works of fantasy ever. Let's get back to business. I've been on this forum for a while and never saw anyone talk about the reason why Casca's hair are red in the new anime. Can somebody please explain? Or maybe direct me to the right place? I'm sure its an artistic decision, but Miura never drew her that way if I recall... Its gonna be even weirder after the eclipse, when they grow longer (a dark skinned person isn't supposed to have red hair). I'm just being curious about what you guys think about that.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 02, 2011, 01:00:27 AM
I see no reason as to why my tongue-in-cheek remark should be seen as so insulting by people here.

Reminds me of something my wrongheaded ex-girlfriend would say before I magnanimously dismissed her harmless ignorance, since I'm the better person. Ho ho ho!

No offense! :femto:

And that's one of the less nasty ways of reading the subtext of your statement.

And the fact I can see good in the production appears to be a problem with others here and continues to being growing into a problem

The problem isn't your ability to see the good in the production, but your inability to see to the bad. Also, the burden of proof for each perspective isn't the same; the film's revealed incongruities and the problems they present are facts based on what we know, the possible justifications or solutions for them are fictions based on what we don't know. All opinions are not created equal.

If that many people have an issue with what I consider to be just an opinion and would rather I didn't try and enjoy the excitement surrounding the series, then by all means erase my profile, since I would rather not have to try and defend myself against something that I considered at first to be so petty only to be escalated into what now seems like such a big issue.

It's not a big deal, like I said I don't care about your personal opinion, but it escalated because you continued to defend the unverifiable position outlined above against what amounts to basic factual observations, which is a problem unto itself. Lith covered the rest nicely.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on November 02, 2011, 01:05:45 AM
2 new vids up on berserkfilm's youtube channel.  Bad news is the new trailer is only in 360p!!! http://youtu.be/bb3lCOmEt5I

I was really hoping for a full 1080p one. :farnese:  At least this trailer uses a better codec (although lower bitrate and resolution), so in the end, it's not much better than the previous version on yahoo.  Poop!  I WANT HD!!!

The other vid looks to be an interview with AI (singer of the 2nd song in the trailer / ending theme song).  Useless for me since I don't know Japanese!



Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 02, 2011, 01:10:36 AM
2 new vids up on berserkfilm's youtube channel.  Bad news is the new trailer is only in 360p!!! http://youtu.be/bb3lCOmEt5I

Thanks for the head's up, DK!

I was really hoping for a full 1080p one. :farnese:  At least this trailer uses a better codec (although lower bitrate and resolution), so in the end, it's not much better than the previous version on yahoo.  Poop!  I WANT HD!!!

Yeah, it's a pity, I know the HD version of the previous trailer changed my mind about its looks.

The other vid looks to be an interview with AI (singer of the 2nd song in the trailer / ending theme song).  Useless for me since I don't know Japanese!

We've had good luck so far, hopefully someone will translate that interview as well.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on November 02, 2011, 01:34:28 AM
Thanks for the head's up, DK!

Of course Grif :serpico:  Here comes another!

First Official Movie Poster!
(http://s.cinematoday.jp/res/N0/03/66/v1320152666/N0036670_l.jpg)

Guts looks sooooo happy, LOLOL.

Source (http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0036670)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Oburi on November 02, 2011, 02:02:06 AM
Nice! I enjoyed the trailer and the music was great! Both tracks.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on November 02, 2011, 02:42:29 AM
Large Version:

(http://natalie.mu/media/comic/1111/extra/news_large_brsrk_poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on November 02, 2011, 02:45:36 AM
RaffoBaffo you rock! :guts: THANKS!!!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on November 02, 2011, 03:05:40 AM
VERY nice poster, I dig it!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Miracles on November 02, 2011, 03:55:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPum0S6a8Q

Just found this a few minutes ago. It's a short video of Hirasawa recording 'Aria', and it sounds like there's a bit more of the song to go with it (Though it's not the best quality).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 02, 2011, 03:57:51 AM
Interesting how the poster (and the new trailer) goes on to include the King, Charlotte, and Julius, yet again the Queen is missing as is Foss.... there ongoing absence in the promotion worries me. Same goes for Gambino and child Guts etc.  :sad:


edit ::: I'm also beginning to think that the Hawks logo on their capes/breastplates is a different logo altogether than the traditional Hawks logo at this point. It's consistently drawn very differently.

edit 2 ::: Found a trailer with subtitles: Not sure how good they are though. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMOS3YDCSE)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: CCS on November 02, 2011, 04:48:26 AM
YYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSS

Though I wasn't a big fan of that second song.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 02, 2011, 04:54:55 AM
Really not a fan of that poster. An utterly unnatural expression on the main character of the series. Bravo. Smug grin aside, the composition is at least interesting in the way that it layers the different story elements. In a way, it's not dissimilar from Volume 5's cover. (http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/merchandise/manga/images/05high.jpg)

Interesting how the poster (and the new trailer) goes on to include the King, Charlotte, and Julius, yet again the Queen is missing as is Foss.... there ongoing absence in the promotion worries me. Same goes for Gambino and child Guts etc.  :sad:
Foss' exclusion isn't that significant, as he's a secondary, possibly even tertiary character at this point. The queen isn't introduced until midway through volume 6, which could be a sign of where this movie will end. Given the footage we've seen here, I've been thinking it would end around the time of Griffith's speech to Charlotte about what a friend is to him. This is all directly following the assassination sequence, and it wraps up that portion of the story nicely. I can see the final scene being them heading out to the next battle, which of course starts a chain of events that ends in Doldrey. That's gotta be 2nd movie material.

Now, Gambino's absence is indeed extremely troubling to me. It would be absurd of them to cut out Guts' entire childhood sequence. Will it start with the Bazuso battle? :schierke:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on November 02, 2011, 05:11:37 AM
Trailer in HD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9vM79FFWQ&feature=feedu

EDIT: there's also a new advertisement at the end  of the trailer.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 02, 2011, 05:47:58 AM
Trailer in HD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9vM79FFWQ&feature=feedu

Awesome! These trailers have never been this high quality. It looks great. As usual, I took a batch of screen shots at 1080p.

(Click for 1920x1080 resolution images)

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer00_t.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer00.jpg)
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The scene that looks the ugliest thanks to the high definition is easily the Guts charging scene. It looks straight out of Star Wars Episode I's green-screen battle on Naboo.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on November 02, 2011, 06:03:33 AM
I just watched the trailer, awesome stuff, i can't wait to see it now !! Although i have to admit that i still  feel more excited when you guys announce the new episodes :schnoz:


The scene that looks the ugliest thanks to the high definition is easily the Guts charging scene. It looks straight out of Star Wars Episode I's green-screen battle on Naboo.


Yeah that scene looked weird.
Thanks for all the new Desktop Wallpapers Walter  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on November 02, 2011, 07:22:05 AM
Trailer in HD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-9vM79FFWQ&feature=feedu

EDIT: there's also a new advertisement at the end  of the trailer.

THANK YOU

Awesome! These trailers have never been this high quality. It looks great. As usual, I took a batch of screen shots at 1080p.

THANK YOU

Ah, so nice! I was beginning to get depressed with all the negative comments about the movie earlier. Which, I personally really don't care most of the voice acting and the switched scenes..etc. But.. I've already planned to look at this movie as just the idea of Berserk.

Side note: Damnit.. every time I see Guts in the scene where he is slouched I can't get that picture of Jim Halpert out of my mind. :puck:

Damn you who ever posted that comparison picture!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on November 02, 2011, 07:50:18 AM
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SCREENCAPS WALT!!! :guts: :guts: :guts:

Yeah, I mean I recognize most of the dialogue but if someone could sub a YouTube video, that would rule, directdk.

Your wish... my command!

Trailer in 1080p HD with ENGLISH SUBS =) (http://youtu.be/WF3OP3f2I10)



Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on November 02, 2011, 08:20:08 AM
you sir, are a kind a kind hearted and beautiful person! thanks directdk!

with the subs it adds another level of awesome to the trailer.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 02, 2011, 10:03:32 AM
Wow, so much new posts... What a fight about the changes... I feel like I just shouldn't say anything, Aazealh is the "your argument is invalid" meme himself.  :ganishka:
But as Walter pointed out that change of the Hawk logo, I just feel more and more confused about the whole movie, and I just keep repeating "Why?! Is it good for anything? Just for what purpose they did this?" and I realised maybe I shuold stop guessing and wait for the final product, although these changes made me even more curious about the whole thing... Maybe that was the aim with the changes, get more attention (and more angry fans attacking their houses, lol...)

Thanks for the pics and a trailers! Damn, that CG looks even more awful in HD...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 02, 2011, 10:06:55 AM
I've been on this forum for a while and never saw anyone talk about the reason why Casca's hair are red in the new anime. Can somebody please explain?

Her hair isn't red. It's just the highlights from the setting sun that make it look like that in the scene.

The other vid looks to be an interview with AI (singer of the 2nd song in the trailer / ending theme song).  Useless for me since I don't know Japanese!

It's nice of them to feature stuff like that though; I hope they release more videos in general.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPum0S6a8Q

Just found this a few minutes ago. It's a short video of Hirasawa recording 'Aria', and it sounds like there's a bit more of the song to go with it (Though it's not the best quality).

Nice find! I'd really like to hear the whole song, because the excerpt we've heard so far wasn't as memorable to me as Sign was when I first saw the PS2 game's trailer.

Really not a fan of that poster. An utterly unnatural expression on the main character of the series. Bravo. Smug grin aside, the composition is at least interesting in the way that it layers the different story elements. In a way, it's not dissimilar from Volume 5's cover. (http://www.skullknight.net/encyclopedia/merchandise/manga/images/05high.jpg)

Yeah, Guts' grin isn't all that appropriate... But I guess it works with the way they're trying to splice the story. First movie: all is well; second movie: the dark tidings; third movie: the fall. The beherit stands out to me though, looks sloppily added on top of the rest.

Foss' exclusion isn't that significant, as he's a secondary, possibly even tertiary character at this point. The queen isn't introduced until midway through volume 6, which could be a sign of where this movie will end. Given the footage we've seen here, I've been thinking it would end around the time of Griffith's speech to Charlotte about what a friend is to him. This is all directly following the assassination sequence, and it wraps up that portion of the story nicely. I can see the final scene being them heading out to the next battle, which of course starts a chain of events that ends in Doldrey. That's gotta be 2nd movie material.

Yeah I agree with all that. The queen and Foss not being featured was to be expected (and we already discussed it before I believe), and the best place to end the movie would be the aftermath of the assassination.

Now, Gambino's absence is indeed extremely troubling to me. It would be absurd of them to cut out Guts' entire childhood sequence. Will it start with the Bazuso battle? :schierke:

"Those are just minor changes, I don't mind them because they don't affect the storyline."

Ah, so nice! I was beginning to get depressed with all the negative comments about the movie earlier. Which, I personally really don't care most of the voice acting and the switched scenes..etc. But.. I've already planned to look at this movie as just the idea of Berserk.

Side note: Damnit.. every time I see Guts in the scene where he is slouched I can't get that picture of Jim Halpert out of my mind. :puck:

Damn you who ever posted that comparison picture!

Glad to know you've got your priorities in order.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on November 02, 2011, 11:59:07 AM
direcktdk you are a good good man. Thank you for putting up that video.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 02, 2011, 12:05:06 PM
The more I watch the trailer, the more the second track grows on me. I can see it functioning well at some of the more emotional moments in the story.

And KUDOS for everyone's contributions to this thread!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 02, 2011, 01:29:11 PM
The poster is actually kind of charming, warts and all like the big ugly CGI Beherit. =)

Also, once again the trailer looks much more promising in HD, though I imagine the scene combinations will be kind of jarring for veterans of the series and inherently awkward unto themselves (its' certainly going to change how some of the relationships unfold). Unfortunately it will also create even more confusion for new fans when it comes to the original scenes from the manga. I have a feeling this section is going to become very useful for that influx of people, and we may eventually need an FAQ thread addressing the differences.

"Those are just minor changes, I don't mind them because they don't affect the storyline."

Oh, just wait, "I forgive the manga for having so many unnecessary scenes and filler, I'm just glad it could be fixed in the finished version of the series, as it was meant to be."
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 02, 2011, 02:31:56 PM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu0mqcHEnK1r1b7ooo1_500.jpg)


my first post. hehe.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 02, 2011, 02:34:29 PM
my first post. hehe.

Welcome to SK.net. A bigger version of that picture was posted at the top of the page earlier today.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on November 02, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
The Trailer

Likes: The animation; gorgeous backgrounds; and Guts's, Casca's and Zodd's voices.

Dislikes: The revised scenes and Griffith's voice.

I'm still looking forward to the film, and I'm trying my best to reserve judgment until I see the final product, but these additions/revisions are bothersome. While I don't mind them adding filler to space the movies out a bit more (as long as it's done well), I hate the fact that they're changing existing material for no reason. What was the reason behind moving Guts's and Casca's conversation to the middle of a bunch of ruins? The background is beautifully drawn, but that doesn't matter to me. What matters is the director changing things that don't need changing. This scene was fine the way it was in the manga.

As for the dialogue, like most trailers, I'm hoping the difference in what Guts and Casca say during their argument in the trailer is the result of editing done by the marketing department, and not a change in the structure of the scene itself. I guess we'll have to wait until the film is completed before we'll know for sure (unless they release previews of full scenes, which is unlikely).

Griffith's voice really bothers me, but I'm hoping that the actor will get better as he continues voicing the character. Another thought occurred to me, as well: he might be intentionally sounding a bit "meeker" in order to contrast what Femto might sound like when he returns to the material world. I don't have anything to back that up, of course.

As for the CGI, it doesn't bother me that much. I guess I'm just used to CGI in recent anime productions.

The Poster

I hate it. Plain and simple. It looks like some kid made it on his computer using photoshop. Griffith and the Band of the Falcon look all right, but the rest of it just looks messy (and Guts looks absurd). In the end, it's not that big of a deal, since what I care about most is the faithful adaptation of the manga to film, not what the marketing department comes up with.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 02, 2011, 03:22:41 PM
As for the dialogue, like most trailers, I'm hoping the difference in what Guts and Casca say during their argument in the trailer is the result of editing done by the marketing department, and not a change in the structure of the scene itself. I guess we'll have to wait until the film is completed before we'll know for sure (unless they release previews of full scenes, which is unlikely).

That seems a bit unlikely to me as Guts' expression when he replies to her definitely conveys what he's saying in the trailer ("it's not true! :judo:") and not what he says in the manga.

Another thought occurred to me, as well: he might be intentionally sounding a bit "meeker" in order to contrast what Femto might sound like when he returns to the material world. I don't have anything to back that up, of course.

Sounds like wishful thinking to me, but honestly I can't blame you. Personally I just hope his voice will grow on me.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 02, 2011, 03:44:47 PM

But as Walter pointed out that change of the Hawk logo, I just feel more and more confused about the whole movie,

If you read what I said above, the logo on their capes/breastplates seems to be a different type of Hawks logo than the traditional one we see on the banners etc, so it's not like they just sucked it up at drawing at least.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 02, 2011, 04:50:27 PM
Welcome to SK.net. A bigger version of that picture was posted at the top of the page earlier today.

/facepalm/ how the fuck did i miss that? lmao anyway. thanx
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Bramwell on November 02, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
Notice the small sword guts is holding as an assasin. I guess that change is small but kind of makes sense. I always wonderd how no one recognised him after he fled the courtyard, the sword is a complete give away.

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer15_t.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer15.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 02, 2011, 05:04:58 PM
If you read what I said above, the logo on their capes/breastplates seems to be a different type of Hawks logo than the traditional one we see on the banners etc, so it's not like they just sucked it up at drawing at least.
I know, and that's what I don't understand - what change in the storyline can lead to a different Hawks logo? And they also showed the usual one with the wing pattern... And also that feather, just what is that for?  :???: That's why I'm just too confused now, I think I'll just wait until the movie comes and then say my judgement about the storyline...

About the absence of some parts, like Guts' childhood... If we add up the trailers, we only saw about 10 minutes from the movie, so lets hope the rest 70-100 will include them.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 02, 2011, 06:04:34 PM
Notice the small sword guts is holding as an assasin. I guess that change is small but kind of makes sense. I always wonderd how no one recognised him after he fled the courtyard, the sword is a complete give away.

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer15_t.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer15.jpg)

you know what i never noticed that...but yeah. it makes sense to go through that change.

I know, and that's what I don't understand - what change in the storyline can lead to a different Hawks logo? And they also showed the usual one with the wing pattern...

i think the logo on their armor may either be a result of lazy drawing/animation or its just simpler version of the traditional Hawks logo.
seriously you guys are reading to much into it. i didnt even notice the logo change/difference. stop fretting about the little things and just worry about the bigger picture.

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on November 02, 2011, 06:06:08 PM
Notice the small sword guts is holding as an assasin. I guess that change is small but kind of makes sense. I always wonderd how no one recognised him after he fled the courtyard, the sword is a complete give away.

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer15_t.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer15.jpg)
you know what i never noticed that...but yeah. it makes sense to go through that change.
That's a bad mistake and it doesn't make sense because the pseudo sword in that snapshot is LONG. So the wrong sword is an error versus a convenient choice. I'm inclined to believe that the lack of recognizing him was due to the fact that it's dark and Guts' attacks are super fast.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 02, 2011, 06:07:05 PM
If you read what I said above, the logo on their capes/breastplates seems to be a different type of Hawks logo than the traditional one we see on the banners etc, so it's not like they just sucked it up at drawing at least.

That's rather debatable. I doubt they decided to go ahead and shittify the pins for no reason. It's most likely a lack of attention to detail (or lack of care), as shown by the fact it isn't consistently depicted in the two shots of Casca (from the same scene) Walter posted yesterday. I'm sure if we were given a more or less static close-up shot it'd be properly represented.

Notice the small sword guts is holding as an assasin. I guess that change is small but kind of makes sense. I always wonderd how no one recognised him after he fled the courtyard, the sword is a complete give away.

It's not that small (especially when piled on top of all the others), and I don't think it makes that much sense either. Guts has always been very attached to his sword, and this sort of mistake on his part goes to show that he didn't execute the mission like a professional assassin would have. The sloppiness and recklessness with which he carried it out (which led to the accidental death of Adonis) is an integral part of the event. As for not being recognized, to be fair at the time he wasn't that famous yet, it was night, they were in the rush of battle/an alarm, they didn't suspect the perpetrator could be "one of their own", and as far as we know he killed all the guards that came close enough to recognize him (since it's not like his face was well concealed either). Notice that they also "fixed" that last detail in the movie by having him wear a face mask similar to Silat's. Fuck that.

About the absence of some parts, like Guts' childhood... If we add up the trailers, we only saw about 10 minutes from the movie, so lets hope the rest 70-100 will include them.

The trailers don't add up to 10 minutes of footage. However they cover a lot of key scenes, and none involve Guts' childhood. That's pretty telling.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 02, 2011, 07:34:45 PM
However they cover a lot of key scenes, and none involve Guts' childhood. That's pretty telling.
Yeah, I know... I just don't want to accept the truth...  :judo: But I'm still hoping.
i think the logo on their armor may either be a result of lazy drawing/animation or its just simpler version of the traditional Hawks logo.
seriously you guys are reading to much into it. i didnt even notice the logo change/difference. stop fretting about the little things and just worry about the bigger picture.
I also thought that first, but I changed my opinion as others were speculating, but now I think this again. But I still don't like that feather which not only makes no sense but also ugly and shittily drawn.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 02, 2011, 07:43:30 PM
i think the logo on their armor may either be a result of lazy drawing/animation or its just simpler version of the traditional Hawks logo.
seriously you guys are reading to much into it. i didnt even notice the logo change/difference. stop fretting about the little things and just worry about the bigger picture.
Forest for the trees... The significance of the images I posted are that even the Hawk symbol is subject to revision for the sake of animation/budgets/deadlines. If that's true, then what else? Anyway, details do matter. Focusing on details gives us an indication of how they'll treat the series as a whole. Right now we're seeing these scenes in quick, half-second glimpses because the trailer is condensed. But how are these fudged design details going to look when they're on a big screen, up there for minutes at a time?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aphasia on November 02, 2011, 08:13:11 PM
That new trailer is rocking my world.  :guts:

PS: I'm not happy with all the incongruities that have been listed.  I've yet to see an anime that faithfully depicted the original (manga) artists vision.  I think that's mainly due to different artists taking liberties for the sake of style or whatever.  I'm just going to enjoy the ride and hope the final version doesn't totally botch the story.  I've been lowering my expectations for a while.  I never really expected anything to match (or come close) to the manga in terms of scope.  Besides, is there anything we can do?  Has anyone tried contacting them with concerns or critiques?  They should've hired Aaz, Griffith and Walter combo for quality assurance. 

PS: LOVE THE MUSIC!!! That really is quite beautiful.  I also like the voice acting.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on November 02, 2011, 08:34:38 PM
The Trailer

Likes: The animation; gorgeous backgrounds; and Guts's, Casca's and Zodd's voices.

Dislikes: The revised scenes and Griffith's voice.

I'm still looking forward to the film, and I'm trying my best to reserve judgment until I see the final product, but these additions/revisions are bothersome. While I don't mind them adding filler to space the movies out a bit more (as long as it's done well), I hate the fact that they're changing existing material for no reason. What was the reason behind moving Guts's and Casca's conversation to the middle of a bunch of ruins? The background is beautifully drawn, but that doesn't matter to me. What matters is the director changing things that don't need changing. This scene was fine the way it was in the manga.

As for the dialogue, like most trailers, I'm hoping the difference in what Guts and Casca say during their argument in the trailer is the result of editing done by the marketing department, and not a change in the structure of the scene itself. I guess we'll have to wait until the film is completed before we'll know for sure (unless they release previews of full scenes, which is unlikely).

I had been waiting on your opinion, Rhombaad. I was curious how you felt about all of this. I must agree, the dialog change that has everyone so upset between Casca and Guts is also one of my larger gripes at the moment. Aaz worded it very descriptively, as he does:

In the manga, Casca calls him a mad dog and he angrily dares her to repeat what she said. Then Griffith arrives and she leaves. After that, Guts tells Griffith that he's changed and that he cares about his comrades. The whole point of the scene is to underline the communication problem Guts & Casca have (and have had ever since they first met), preparing the reader for their later bonding after they both fall into the river following their first encounter with Adon.

I think this is one of Guts' really cool scenes, and it takes away a little of how manly and standalone he is to grab her wrist and instead say something emotional. But I do think it would be amazing if this turned out to be trailer-specific, and not included the way it is now in the film. I can see how they worded it here to maybe attract newcomers to the series. It does look captivating, provided you don't know the details of how it really transpired. As with a lot of movies here in the States, some trailer scenes aren't even included in the movie. We have a rather large "wishful thinking" bin, but I'm going to add this to it, anyway.

I hate the fact that they're changing existing material for no reason. What was the reason behind moving Guts's and Casca's conversation to the middle of a bunch of ruins?

I like to imagine:

Director: Okay, onto the scene where Guts and Casca have their conflict.
Key Animator: Ooooo. I can't do that. I'm good at ruins, though. I can draw some mean ruins.

Notice that they also "fixed" that last detail in the movie by having him wear a face mask similar to Silat's. Fuck that.

You know the first time I watched the trailer, I had hoped my eyes misread that veil as a shadow. I remember thinking "God. I hope that was a shadow of some kind. And not a mask."

The more I watch the trailer, the more the second track grows on me. I can see it functioning well at some of the more emotional moments in the story.

Mmhm. My favorite piece of music from the '97 series was "Guts," and it was its track for emotional purposes. When I first remember hearing it was when Guts was on the roof, looking up at his sword and the night sky, and it blew me away. First time I heard Hirasawa. It was so unusual, and beautiful. The day it sold me. I can see the importance of having a track like this.


Side note: Damnit.. every time I see Guts in the scene where he is slouched I can't get that picture of Jim Halpert out of my mind. :puck:

Damn you who ever posted that comparison picture!

I have my own demons with that one. Except I can't get the image of Emmitt Nervend out of my mind.

Also, Saeko, welcome to SK.Net! That is one rocking avi and sig you already have!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 02, 2011, 08:41:19 PM
But I do think it would be amazing if this turned out to be trailer-specific, and not included the way it is now in the film. I can see how they worded it here to maybe attract newcomers to the series. It does look captivating, provided you don't know the details of how it really transpired. As with a lot of movies here in the States, some trailer scenes aren't even included in the movie. We have a rather large "wishful thinking" bin, but I'm going to add this to it, anyway.

Well, I won't blame you for hoping.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Miracles on November 02, 2011, 09:16:01 PM
I can only imagine what was said when the staff were discussing things like this.

Quote
"Don't you think the fans might be just a bit upset by all these changes?"

"...Nah. Oh, and get rid of his sword for the assassination scene too."
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 03, 2011, 12:03:51 AM

Also, Saeko, welcome to SK.Net! That is one rocking avi and sig you already have!

thank you thank you. found the Siggy on Tumblr someone made GIFs of the new trailer already

Anyway, details do matter. Focusing on details gives us an indication of how they'll treat the series as a whole. Right now we're seeing these scenes in quick, half-second glimpses because the trailer is condensed. But how are these fudged design details going to look when they're on a big screen, up there for minutes at a time?

simple things like the look of a logo ON A PIN. ON THEIR CHEST. do not determine how they will treat the anime as a hole. like c'mon now


also whoever complained about guts with the cover over his face during the assassination...its really no big deal. IT MAKES SENSE
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on November 03, 2011, 12:10:25 AM
The more I watch the trailer, the more the second track grows on me.

I would have prefer the second song without lyrics in it. Don't get me wrong the singer got a nice voice and all but I am not a fan of songs with lyrics in movies.

On another note the changes (not the small ones like the pins and stuff, but more the background ones) were maybe made to not be exactly like the manga. Let me explain:

Sometimes when they make an adaptation of a book for a TV show (like Dexter lets say) They "base" themself on the original stuff but go a little way off just to not have 2 times the same story. If that's what they've done, I called that plain stupidity.

I liked the Dexter series but the books are way better.

Why can't they just do the same story as in the manga.

I have read a little bit earlier in that thread that maybe they added some filler for the movie length. Why not do exactly what is happening in the manga instead of cutting out parts (maybe the childhood) to replace it with insignificant filler?

All that to say : maybe the movie is still gonna be good even though with the changes, BUT will never be as good as the original material which is why I'm reading it.


also whoever complained about guts with the cover over his face during the assassination...its really no big deal. IT MAKES SENSE

It might make sense like you said, for I thought the same thing the first time I saw the old anime but when I read what Aaz said a few post ago, Guts didn't do his mission as a professional would do and I never thought about that angle. Now I must say that THAT makes sense, so I must agree with Aaz on that one.

ps: Sorry about the double posting, but when I posted the other one I didn't read your post before answering..

[Edit by Griffith: Modify button, bro. :badbone:]
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 03, 2011, 11:53:45 AM
Has there been any official word on the runtime of the film? I keep seeing comments about a length of an hour to 1.5 hours. Just curious if its still all speculation. I really can't see them making three one hour long movies. Thats... nine 20 minute episodes from the original anime (not counting intros and credits), less than half of what the first anime covered of the golden age. I can't speak to the length of the average film that gets released in Japan, but it does seem like stateside most movies these days fall between 1.5 to 2 hours long. If they really want to cover the most of the golden age it would make the most sense for them to be at least 2 hours long, even so thats 18 episodes worth of 20 minutes of golden age content from the original show. Basically, 3 movies cannot cover what the first show covered, unless they are sufficiently long enough to match the 500 to 600 minute runtime of the first show. If they take the route of 1.5 hour long animated feature films, drastic cuts are going to be made, lots of things will be left out, which.... blows.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 03, 2011, 04:07:36 PM
Has there been any official word on the runtime of the film? I keep seeing comments about a length of an hour to 1.5 hours. Just curious if its still all speculation. I really can't see them making three one hour long movies. Thats... nine 20 minute episodes from the original anime (not counting intros and credits), less than half of what the first anime covered of the golden age. I can't speak to the length of the average film that gets released in Japan, but it does seem like stateside most movies these days fall between 1.5 to 2 hours long. If they really want to cover the most of the golden age it would make the most sense for them to be at least 2 hours long, even so thats 18 episodes worth of 20 minutes of golden age content from the original show. Basically, 3 movies cannot cover what the first show covered, unless they are sufficiently long enough to match the 500 to 600 minute runtime of the first show. If they take the route of 1.5 hour long animated feature films, drastic cuts are going to be made, lots of things will be left out, which.... blows.

this is what has been worrying me also. hopefully it will be at least 2hrs that way, much wont get left out.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on November 03, 2011, 04:11:02 PM
simple things like the look of a logo ON A PIN. ON THEIR CHEST. do not determine how they will treat the anime as a hole. like c'mon now

Actually, it's quite telling. If they can't get the smallest details correct, what makes you think they'll get the bigger ones right?

also whoever complained about guts with the cover over his face during the assassination...its really no big deal. IT MAKES SENSE

That would be Aazealh; his name is above the quote. It might not be a big deal to you, but it matters to those of us who want the film to be as faithful to the manga as possible. It doesn't make sense, either. Please reread Aazealh's post for the explanation of why Guts conducting the assassination in a more professional manner (using a different sword and wearing a mask) does not work in the context of the original story.

Has there been any official word on the runtime of the film?

Not that I know of. I'm sure the official runtime will be posted in this thread as soon as it's confirmed.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 03, 2011, 04:14:50 PM
Has there been any official word on the runtime of the film?
No official word yet. Just idle speculation from us based on the running time of other feature-length animations in Japan, which can range from 60m to 120m.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: kaimera on November 03, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
Actually, it's quite telling. If they can't get the smallest details correct, what makes you think they'll get the bigger ones right?
That is, sorry, no argument. It's more likely that they get the overall stuff right. At least in some ways. They could fail as well with the right button. It's a mistake that's for sure, but it's saying nothing about the final product. the argument is this way and vice-versa just speculating.
And to be honest. There are two ways of making the manga into a anime. 1. The Faithful way 2. The abstract way. Both ways can fail. But i would love to see a good second version. The most faithful version will always be the manga itself. And i would love to see what the team does with the manga in a new medium (anime).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on November 03, 2011, 04:32:34 PM
That is, sorry, no argument. It's more likely that they get the overall stuff right.

Based on what? The argument between Guts and Casca isn't correct, and Guts isn't holding the correct sword when he faces Griffith later on (which has horrible implications). Those are pretty big errors. And your argument is "It's more likely that they get the overall stuff right?" At least my argument has evidence. So far you don't have any that shows they're getting the big picture correct. I hope that they do, but your argument is no better than mine at this point.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 03, 2011, 05:09:27 PM
That is, sorry, no argument. It's more likely that they get the overall stuff right. At least in some ways. They could fail as well with the right button. It's a mistake that's for sure, but it's saying nothing about the final product. the argument is this way and vice-versa just speculating.

A fitting statement of such a notion, but it's not vice versa because that criticism, and the extrapolation of it, is based on factual observation, while the alternative has largely been ignorance, denial, subjective opinion, and speculation based on blind faith. I'm not even saying it's wrong to defend the film, on the contrary; it's an inequitable position because it's easier to criticize, but that's because there's more evidence to support criticism. Furthermore, it's a zero-sum game, the more there is to criticize about the production, the less there is to redeem it. Like I've said elsewhere, many opposed serious criticism of the production are kind of falling back on what amounts to a dues ex machina that will magically save all these issues in the end. Maybe the whole will equal more than the sum of its parts, but right now the fact is some of those parts look like they don't meet expectations.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 03, 2011, 05:56:27 PM
simple things like the look of a logo ON A PIN. ON THEIR CHEST. do not determine how they will treat the anime as a hole.

Devil's in the detail. Botching the emblem on the main characters' chests is not a reassuring sign, and actually it does clearly show the limits of the production's attention to detail. Not that it's anything new, as we've had ample proof that they weren't being meticulous since the very first footage we saw, but it's just plain sloppy, no matter how you look at it.

also whoever complained about guts with the cover over his face during the assassination...its really no big deal. IT MAKES SENSE

You know what else "makes sense"? If Guts assassinated Julius using a poisoned dart. Way more stealthy and equally efficient. Besides it wouldn't put him at risk and would naturally draw suspicions towards Tudor given that the modus operandi would ressemble the one used during the royal hunt. Also when fighting in tight quarters he should dual wield short swords instead of using that big one, would make a lot more sense. You get the point? Now be quiet, and stop using caps when you want to stress a point, you're not commenting on Youtube.

I would have prefer the second song without lyrics in it. Don't get me wrong the singer got a nice voice and all but I am not a fan of songs with lyrics in movies.

The first song also has lyrics...

On another note the changes (not the small ones like the pins and stuff, but more the background ones) were maybe made to not be exactly like the manga.

Yeah, maybe. I actually consider that a serious possibility. Still, while we can't judge the whole thing, the footage we've been exposed to is far from flawless even when considering that angle.

If they take the route of 1.5 hour long animated feature films, drastic cuts are going to be made, lots of things will be left out, which.... blows.

Well it already looks like some pretty significant things are being left out (e.g. Guts' childhood). Don't want to sound too pessimistic, but it's better to be prepared.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on November 03, 2011, 08:08:39 PM
Anyone knows when those songs, from the trailer, will be released? Or do we have to wait for the movie to be released? Since the fist one in the trailer is from Susumu, and the main theme (right?). That will make sense that the song is released with the movie, but the second song from A.I. could be released earlier right? I have no idea how those things go in Japan.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 03, 2011, 08:10:18 PM
Anyone knows when those songs, from the trailer, will be released? Or do we have to wait for the movie to be released? Since the fist one in the trailer is from Susumu, and the main theme (right?). That will make sense that the song is released with the movie, but the second song from A.I. could be released earlier right? I have no idea how those things go in Japan.

I'm pretty sure they'll both be released after the movie, as part of its OST.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 03, 2011, 10:29:21 PM
Actually, it's quite telling. If they can't get the smallest details correct, what makes you think they'll get the bigger ones right?

once again. it may not be that they got it wrong, like how can you get it right on the flag and then get it wrong on the armor? honestly i really think the "botched" emblem is a result of laziness.

you guys are really over analyzing it.

and no matter how many minor flaws you see you all are still going to watch the movie anyway. also in regards to the issue about Guts and Casca's conversation being incorrect; did you all ever stop to think that maybe someone translated it wrong? or am i wrong and it was a pretty accurate translation?
 

You know what else "makes sense"? If Guts assassinated Julius using a poisoned dart. Way more stealthy and equally efficient. Besides it wouldn't put him at risk and would naturally draw suspicions towards Tudor given that the modus operandi would ressemble the one used during the royal hunt. Also when fighting in tight quarters he should dual wield short swords instead of using that big one, would make a lot more sense.



ok...i really dont see what you're getting at. we all know Guts should have been more stealthy with his assassination approach but he's a big idiot acted careless as always. there's nothing we can do about that. Miura wrote it the way he did and thats that. i dont see why you're telling me something that you should be telling Miura.

all im saying is that it makes sense for him wear face cover and have a different sword so no one would recognize him.
whereas in the original adaptation, he's just has a cloak and his normal sword. all who saw him could/should have drew the conclusion that it could have been Guts causing the commotion, simply by recognizing his sword. yes one could say that he was moving so fast/killed all who got close enough to see his face, but still one of those retarded and apparently blind guards should have recognized his sword...at least.

that change was reasonable i dont see why some people are bitching about it.

You get the point? Now be quiet, and stop using caps when you want to stress a point, you're not commenting on Youtube.

ok was that necessary? like really, did you have to come at me like that? i know im new here and you probably have the impression that i'm just some wise-ass noob that doesnt know what she's talking about but i'm far from that.
also if i want to use caps for emphasis let me. so what if i did. you're ridiculing me over something so damn trivial.
stop being such an ass
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gaahl on November 03, 2011, 10:51:34 PM
ok...i really dont see what you're getting at. we all know Guts should have been more stealthy with his assassination approach but he's a big idiot acted careless as always. there's nothing we can do about that. Miura wrote it the way he did and thats that. i dont see why you're telling me something that you should be telling Miura.

all im saying is that it makes sense for him wear face cover and have a different sword so no one would recognize him.
whereas in the original adaptation, he's just has a cloak and his normal sword. all who saw him could/should have drew the conclusion that it could have been Guts causing the commotion, simply by recognizing his sword. yes one could say that he was moving so fast/killed all who got close enough to see his face, but still one of those retarded and apparently blind guards should have recognized his sword...at least.

that change was reasonable i dont see why some people are bitching about it.

You are confusing two levels of reasonable.
As Aaz said, it would have been reasonable for Guts to do and not do all sorts of things.
But, as you admitted yourself, Guts was not that reasonable. Him acting the way he did was Guts being Guts.
Changing elements of this, making Guts actions more reasonable is the unreasonable thing here.
It makes Guts less consistent as a character.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: kaimera on November 03, 2011, 11:32:50 PM
I hope that they do, but your argument is no better than mine at this point.

Yeah you're right. That's somehow what i wantedt to transport. There are details to critisize, because we only have it. Okay details that may weight more than the word detail is suggesting. I admit that it looks like they are shifting many stuff for what ever reasons.

I have to say, the CGI is, as i looked now at it in super slow-motion and HD , a hopefully fixable problem. Most of the stuff could be done by a overpainting. The colour-palette in the cgi stuff is just unfitting with the the background style which is like a painting and with that very brushy.
The Horse scenes are very interesting. I just looked at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQDAUv6d_KY . And with that you can immediately see, that the backside of the horse is moving up, but the horses in the trailer-scene just use their legs. the only other part that is moving is the head. The next flaw is the movement of the legs, you see that in the shot from the side. the changeover from landing and spurting is totally off. As well as in the whole scene the legs don't seem to touch the ground at all. And what makes it more odd, the cavaliers are shifting as if the upperside of the horse is shifting. That is a huge animation fail, dunno why they included this in the trailer, looks so odd.  Maybe they should look at the horse scenes in "Spirit – Stallion of the Cimarron". They aren't perfect, but still better than this and from 2002. 'nuff gripe :P
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 04, 2011, 12:36:22 AM
I'm finding an emotional comfort zone from the perspective that this is either almost all stuff that's been permitted by Miura for whatever reason (not likely) or it's totally out of his hands and being treated like a completely new interpretation on the essence of the source material.

Basically there is THE BERSERK SAGA, the big shiny double-stacked theatrical trilogy with a super-sized OAV series coming, and then there's Berserk, the manga that I know and love that will have a home in my heart forever.

It's almost ironic that the logo is different. Also, no one has commented on it yet, but the logo on the Hawks' flags shown in the trailer including the one shown specially just for the trailer, is indeed different than Miura's design as well. It's like they're "updating" things, where no update was needed.

I feel like J. J. Abrams is rebooting the original Star Wars trilogy to be just one big movie with Jude Law as Luke Skywalker and Robert Downey Jr. as Han Solo, except Berserk is way more badass than Star Wars.  :sad:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 04, 2011, 12:53:23 AM
I feel like J. J. Abrams is rebooting the original Star Wars trilogy to be just one big movie with Jude Law as Luke Skywalker and Robert Downey Jr. as Han Solo, except Berserk is way more badass than Star Wars.  :sad:

Amen yo.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 04, 2011, 02:28:19 AM
You are confusing two levels of reasonable.
As Aaz said, it would have been reasonable for Guts to do and not do all sorts of things.
But, as you admitted yourself, Guts was not that reasonable. Him acting the way he did was Guts being Guts.
Changing elements of this, making Guts actions more reasonable is the unreasonable thing here.
It makes Guts less consistent as a character.

/facepalm/ you do have a point but is having Guts actually use his brain for once really that bad? is it really that blasphemous? come on now.
for all we know it could have been Miura's decision to make that change...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Tsundere on November 04, 2011, 05:02:34 AM
Maybe they wanted to tone down violence and make it look more accident-like with the small sword instead impaling an innocent child with the real deal.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saephon on November 04, 2011, 05:23:29 AM
Regardless of whether you're optimistic or pessimistic about this production, or focused on the little details that are wrong; the fact is we actually are quite justified in pointing out every thing that is inconsistent or flat out wrong. This project was specifically billed as a reboot, an attempt to be as faithful to the manga as possible. You can say whatever you want about what these little details we've seen so far may indicate, and you can have as much or as little faith as you want in the final product. We are still 100% right for pointing out where this isn't faithful to the manga; they said it would be.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on November 04, 2011, 05:30:26 AM
Maybe they wanted to tone down violence and make it look more accident-like with the small sword instead impaling an innocent child with the real deal.
Well that right there would make everything suck.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 04, 2011, 08:56:42 AM
The Horse scenes are very interesting.
This analization of the CGI made me even more disappointed about it... Just why the f*ck did they use it, if they f*ck it up?! At first I really liked the animation but now it more feels like a bunch of stupid doodles by some amateur anime artists...

Like this pic:
(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer06_t.jpg)
(thanks, Walter :))

Damn, look at that ridiculously bright grass, and those lame horses... Looks like a shitty online MMORPG... The "normal" parts are beatiful, but scenes like this just ruin the whole thing...

you do have a point but is having Guts actually use his brain for once really that bad? is it really that blasphemous?
I think this change is okay like this. I agree that the way Guts carried the assasination in the manga is just too stupid, even for someone uneducated like him. The different sword and the mask are not very radical changes, it looks realistic for him to do this.
As Aaz said, he could've done it several different and more professional ways, like poisoned arrows, but that would be too smart for him.
I think, this is just the perfect way, the golden mean.  :slan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 04, 2011, 09:31:39 AM
once again. it may not be that they got it wrong, like how can you get it right on the flag and then get it wrong on the armor? honestly i really think the "botched" emblem is a result of laziness.

you guys are really over analyzing it.

I'm sorry but you're just talking out of your ass here. You have the facts right in front of your eyes: the emblem isn't correctly represented. And there's no good reason for it. Now, as the many other things not being correctly represented in the animated footage (wrong armors, wrong clothes, wrong weapons, wrong physical traits, etc.) can attest to, it is much more likely to be the result of a lack of meticulosity than it is to be a conscious choice to alter the design. What would the goal be?

You say we're over-analyzing it, but it's actually the other way around. We're saying they're either sloppy, or don't have the will/care to represent it properly. The end result (which is all that matters, mind you) being that it's wrong. You, on the other hand, are saying there might be a mysterious, unknown reason for them to have altered it. So, do tell, what would that reason be? You're grasping at straws; we're not.

and no matter how many minor flaws you see you all are still going to watch the movie anyway.

That is completely besides the point. Just because we're going to watch the movie doesn't mean we can't comment on its flaws. That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

also in regards to the issue about Guts and Casca's conversation being incorrect; did you all ever stop to think that maybe someone translated it wrong? or am i wrong and it was a pretty accurate translation?

It's incorrect in Japanese. I don't need a translation to know that.

ok...i really dont see what you're getting at. we all know Guts should have been more stealthy with his assassination approach but he's a big idiot acted careless as always. there's nothing we can do about that. Miura wrote it the way he did and thats that. i dont see why you're telling me something that you should be telling Miura.

Hahaha, I see you're a fast one. First off, Guts isn't "a big idiot". He's pretty smart. But he's also reckless most of the time (which has nothing to do with being intelligent or not). That's a part of his personality, and that's what makes him fucking badass. Second, what I was getting at, like Gaahl told you, is that Miura wrote that scene the way he did specifically because Guts is the way he is. So to change the scene is to change how Guts as a character is depicted. And it's not like there's just the veil either, like I said before Guts has always been known for his attachment to his sword. He's not the kind of guy who'd just switch weapons for convenience's sake. So to have him do just that directly contradicts other scenes in the story. Hence the fact it's not so minor at all, and doesn't actually make sense.

all im saying is that it makes sense for him wear face cover and have a different sword so no one would recognize him.

And it would make sense for him to kill Julius from afar using a blowgun. But that wouldn't be like Guts. Just like changing swords and dressing like a ninja isn't like him.

all who saw him could/should have drew the conclusion that it could have been Guts causing the commotion, simply by recognizing his sword. yes one could say that he was moving so fast/killed all who got close enough to see his face, but still one of those retarded and apparently blind guards should have recognized his sword...at least.

Not necessarily (many witnesses of actual crimes fail to remember crucial details when interrogated later, and that's in the modern day). In fact, they definitely did not. That's how the story goes. That it was risky is part of it; that it was a close-call is, too. That Adonis' accidental death was as beneficial to Griffith as it was detrimental to Guts and that luckily no one identified him, it's all intentionally part of how it was written. Get that into your head. You should also take into account the fact Guts was a nobody at the time. Griffith himself was on the rise, but his soldiers weren't being paid much attention yet.

ok was that necessary? like really, did you have to come at me like that? i know im new here and you probably have the impression that i'm just some wise-ass noob that doesnt know what she's talking about but i'm far from that.

Actually yes I think it was necessary. At least it prompted you to stop for a second and think about what you're saying instead of posting a one line response to several well-argumented posts without even properly reading them. And I mean absolutely no offense, but you do come across as a wise-ass newbie who doesn't know what she's talking about. I think you should revise your attitude and slow down a little bit, spend more time considering every angle and such.

/facepalm/ you do have a point but is having Guts actually use his brain for once really that bad? is it really that blasphemous? come on now.
I think this change is okay like this. I agree that the way Guts carried the assasination in the manga is just too stupid, even for someone uneducated like him. The different sword and the mask are not very radical changes, it looks realistic for him to do this.
As Aaz said, he could've done it several different and more professional ways, like poisoned arrows, but that would be too smart for him.
I think, this is just the perfect way, the golden mean.  :slan:

God, you people can't be serious. Guts isn't an idiot. Anyone who pays the littlest attention to the story can see that. But he's rash. Not a planner, not a professional assassin, not someone who doesn't care about what weapon he uses so long as he does the job. That's who he is. The kind of man who could plan and carefully prepare an attack, but who'll rather rush in and do the job anyway. It's why he's so cool, you know? I mentioned poisoned arrows to exacerbate the fact it would be unlike him to act like that. It's got nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with personality. To change the scene that way means to change his personality, and that definitely does not make sense.

Really, it's hard for me to believe that some people need this pointed out to them.

for all we know it could have been Miura's decision to make that change...

I'm gonna go ahead and say that I don't think it was. Either way, that wouldn't negate what we've pointed out.



The Horse scenes are very interesting. I just looked at this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQDAUv6d_KY . And with that you can immediately see, that the backside of the horse is moving up, but the horses in the trailer-scene just use their legs. the only other part that is moving is the head. The next flaw is the movement of the legs, you see that in the shot from the side. the changeover from landing and spurting is totally off. As well as in the whole scene the legs don't seem to touch the ground at all. And what makes it more odd, the cavaliers are shifting as if the upperside of the horse is shifting. That is a huge animation fail, dunno why they included this in the trailer, looks so odd.
This analization of the CGI made me even more disappointed about it... Just why the f*ck did they use it, if they f*ck it up?! At first I really liked the animation but now it more feels like a bunch of stupid doodles by some amateur anime artists...

Like this pic:
http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer06_t.jpg (http://skullknight.net/images/anime-screens/HDtrailer06_t.jpg)
(thanks, Walter :))

Damn, look at that ridiculously bright grass, and those lame horses... Looks like a shitty online MMORPG... The "normal" parts are beatiful, but scenes like this just ruin the whole thing...

Yeah, in that scene in particular Guts' horse is just completely wrong. Being CGI, I think it could be fixed without too much trouble (like the way they hopefully fixed Zodd), but it's true that currently it looks like something you'd complain about in a video game... Although it's not as noticeable in movement I guess. Personally I just hope they aren't done working on those scenes and will improve them before the release.

Regardless of whether you're optimistic or pessimistic about this production, or focused on the little details that are wrong; the fact is we actually are quite justified in pointing out every thing that is inconsistent or flat out wrong. This project was specifically billed as a reboot, an attempt to be as faithful to the manga as possible. You can say whatever you want about what these little details we've seen so far may indicate, and you can have as much or as little faith as you want in the final product. We are still 100% right for pointing out where this isn't faithful to the manga; they said it would be.

Indeed! And beyond that, it's not like there's anything else for us to do until the movie comes out. I'd rather read remarks about the footage and discussions about how it will affect the story instead of "OMG I JUST CAME THRICE AND SHAT MY PANTS AT THE SAME TIME WHILE CRYING TEARS OF BLOOD".
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saeko on November 04, 2011, 10:50:12 AM
/sigh/ we all know Guts is very very smart. calling him an idiot was just me joking around.

but its clear he didnt think the assassination through like he should have because he tends to be so rash sometimes. i think we all can agree on that
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 04, 2011, 11:23:11 AM
"Quote from: kaimera on November 03, 2011, 06:32:50 PM
I think this change is okay like this. I agree that the way Guts carried the assasination in the manga is just too stupid, even for someone uneducated like him. The different sword and the mask are not very radical changes, it looks realistic for him to do this.
As Aaz said, he could've done it several different and more professional ways, like poisoned arrows, but that would be too smart for him.
I think, this is just the perfect way, the golden mean.  :slan:"
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God, you people can't be serious. Guts isn't an idiot. Anyone who pays the littlest attention to the story can see that. But he's rash. Not a planner, not a professional assassin, not someone who doesn't care about what weapon he uses so long as he does the job. That's who he is.
First, that quote is by me, not by kaimera :( And I didn't say Guts is an idiot, but he is uneducated and unexperienced about things like assasination, so I completely agree with that you said about his personality.
I think, this change shows what he really is. He stayed rash, but it is shown that he has some IQ, and not a simple muscle-head, so he bothered to pick up some better equippment for this job... I still think that this change is ok.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 04, 2011, 12:04:52 PM
First, that quote is by me, not by kaimera :(

Sorry, with so many quotes it happens sometimes.

And I didn't say Guts is an idiot, but he is uneducated and unexperienced about things like assasination, so I completely agree with that you said about his personality.

Well Saeko said he was an idiot while you said he did things stupidly. Then you said poisoned arrows would be "too smart" for him. I took that to have the same general meaning.

I think, this change shows what he really is. He stayed rash, but it is shown that he has some IQ, and not a simple muscle-head, so he bothered to pick up some better equippment for this job... I still think that this change is ok.

*sigh* It doesn't change anything as far as his intelligence goes. In the end he still acted rashly, still killed Adonis by mistake, still had trouble escaping afterwards. "Picking up" some "better equipment", on the other end, does go against his personality, especially the fact he's using another sword.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: asic on November 04, 2011, 12:47:36 PM
This analization of the CGI made me even more disappointed about it... Just why the f*ck did they use it, if they f*ck it up?! At first I really liked the animation but now it more feels like a bunch of stupid doodles by some amateur anime artists...

Whats up with all this hate towards the CGI, it's the best 3d/2d collaboration I've ever seen from any anime film. Another thing is that this scene is about fast moving characters, taking a single frame and start hating on it is shallow :daiba:

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 04, 2011, 01:26:57 PM
The official website's been updated with an interactive version of the poster: http://www.berserkfilm.com/ (http://www.berserkfilm.com/)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 04, 2011, 01:44:13 PM
Whats up with all this hate towards the CGI, it's the best 3d/2d collaboration I've ever seen from any anime film. Another thing is that this scene is about fast moving characters, taking a single frame and start hating on it is shallow :daiba:


Don't misunderstand. It's not out of hate that I bothered to take the screenshot. I simply thought it was jarring, even in motion. So I wanted to see what it was about the composition that made it stand out so much. As it turns out, a number of things. The row of soldiers standing on a single plane, the primary-color green straight out of the Windows XP background or Gungan battle from Star Wars: Episode I, and then the unnatural movement of the horses along the 2d art. I can't help but notice these things and think they could be improved.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Sammoniac on November 04, 2011, 02:30:05 PM
Regarding the assassination, I think some people forgot that its Griffith that chose Guts to do it. Griffith plans almost everything, so he knew that Guts would use his big-ass sword, and he knew Guts would do the job for sure. Guts also knew that, and like Aaz said, he is too attached to his sword to switch for another weapon (and he is extremely skilled with it so it was the best way to make sure the job would be done). So saying those decisions are stupid is saying Griffith is also stupid. Later in the manga, Guts even refuses a magcial weapon and keeps his Dragon Slayer, saying that he prefers fighting with the weapon he is used to. So its not like he wasn't always that way.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 04, 2011, 04:00:48 PM
The official website's been updated with an interactive version of the poster: http://www.berserkfilm.com/ (http://www.berserkfilm.com/)
The poster looks much better like this. I must be very tired, but I'm having a lot of fun with that hanging Beherit... I've been laughing for like 10 minutes like some stupid child playing with a toy :troll:

Well Saeko said he was an idiot while you said he did things stupidly. Then you said poisoned arrows would be "too smart" for him. I took that to have the same general meaning.
"Stupidly" not necessarily means that the person himself is stupid but his action. Even smart people can behave stupidly when they're in an unusual/shocking situation, like Guts was while the assasination.
But I agree, "too smart" wasn't the right phrase to express what I was thinking... I meant that using a tricky, planned technique is just not Guts' style... He doesn't plan, he just does what he thinks - so he's rash, I agree. (But actually, this kind of "just cut it into half with a giant sword, and it'll die for sure" way of thinking can make him look like an idiot sometimes...)

By the way, isn't it possible that that's supposed to be the right sword? It looks very long, like the one in the manga... Maybe the animators just didn't care enough about the details and the sword ended up to be thinner, but they didn't mean to give him a different sword and change the story... Like the same thing seems to be with those Hawk badges...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on November 04, 2011, 04:21:09 PM

The first song also has lyrics...


Yes indeed but the way the first song is made, the vocals don't bother me at all vs the other one where it's more smooth, almost classical. imo. Still good stuff anyway.  :guts:


Yeah, maybe. I actually consider that a serious possibility. Still, while we can't judge the whole thing, the footage we've been exposed to is far from flawless even when considering that angle.


Sadly true, Mr Aaz. :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 04, 2011, 05:51:10 PM
actually, this kind of "just cut it into half with a giant sword, and it'll die for sure" way of thinking can make him look like an idiot sometimes...

When fighting against giant monsters it's about the most pragmatic (and efficient) approach there is. It's made very clear by Puck as early as in volume 2 that while he fights with a giant sword, Guts is actually a master swordsman. Out of all the battles Guts has ever fought, none made him look like an idiot.

By the way, isn't it possible that that's supposed to be the right sword? It looks very long, like the one in the manga...

Nah it's definitely not his sword.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on November 04, 2011, 06:16:22 PM
The official website's been updated with an interactive version of the poster: http://www.berserkfilm.com/ (http://www.berserkfilm.com/)

God, I hate that poster. :puck:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 04, 2011, 06:41:49 PM
God, I hate that poster. :puck:

What, you don't like that little imp buzzing around Guts? Looks adorable, like a cute tiny demon. ^__^
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on November 04, 2011, 07:53:21 PM
What, you don't like that little imp buzzing around Guts? Looks adorable, like a cute tiny demon. ^__^

Not as much as nearly being able to see Guts's brain through his nostrils. :void:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 04, 2011, 08:07:18 PM
God, I hate that poster. :puck:
I think the highlight of is are the shots of Wyndham. Those look impressive to me. But yeah... overall, it's quite gross.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 05, 2011, 07:36:57 AM
Not as much as nearly being able to see Guts's brain through his nostrils. :void:
I agree. It feels shitty when the thing that looks the worst on a poster is the main character... Disappointing... But that Beherit is still fun *starts laughing on it like a retard* :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: CCS on November 05, 2011, 01:42:40 PM
The bright grass is the only thing bothering me in the trailer. There's a thing in painting called the "green problem". Our eyes are most sensitive to the color green so painters usually "smuggle red" into a scene to minimize the brightness of green. I'm sure normal background artists would know this, but CG artists might not. I'm hoping that gets toned down in color correction for the final product.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: silver on November 07, 2011, 01:08:01 AM
All in all, I'm pretty excited about this project.

Holy crap. I've been registered for this site for 10 years, and I have only 7 posts :isidro:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Voldo on November 07, 2011, 05:09:44 PM
Could someone who knows more about the movie add it to IMDb? It's not there as far as I know. Would be cool to have a page for it.

http://www.imdb.com/updates?update=title
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 07, 2011, 05:59:18 PM
Holy crap. I've been registered for this site for 10 years, and I have only 7 posts :isidro:

And the previous one was a keeper to say the least. :void:

Could someone who knows more about the movie add it to IMDb? It's not there as far as I know. Would be cool to have a page for it.

http://www.imdb.com/updates?update=title

Not going to do it myself, but I tweeted Clara de Porras about it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 07, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
An IMDB entry would be neat.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: ApostleBob on November 08, 2011, 01:51:35 AM
I apologize for bring this back up but there's an aspect to this assassination topic that doesn't seem to have been addressed.

I can see both sides of the argument.  On the one hand Guts is an impulsive, often reckless warrior with a strong attachment to his personal sword, and is really in over his head with a stealthy assassination.  His only attempt to stay unseen is by wearing a hooded cloak without armor, and by traveling by roof top.  A character like Judeau might've been a better pick for the job as far as being discrete , though we all know Griffith wanted to hide his unsavory side from the rest of the Hawks, and so he chose Guts.  The method Guts chooses in the manga says a lot about his one track mind at the time, and is a springboard for his later character growth.  He even blows off the choice Griffith gives him and treats it like any other order.  So there are many good reasons to keep it the way it the way Miura wrote it at the time.

On the other hand, Guts isn't stupid.  He's specifically instructed by Griffith that he can't leave witnesses or be caught, and for good reason.  It would be disastrous for Griffith if Guts was identified, and it doesn't seem far fetched for Griffith to take measures to avoid being charged with high treason or regicide.  For example, instructing Guts to disguise himself.  To the argument that Guts wasn't famous yet, well I'm not so sure.  Guts and Griffith were the only known people to survive a massacre by Zodd, a legendary warrior.  This caused a lot of gossip and celebrity status for at least Griffith, if not Guts to some degree.  I think you can make a case that Guts or his rather unique giant sword might be recognized (especially after Guts nearly assaulted Julius on the steps when Griffith was slapped.  Bodyguards were present and probably took notice.) 

Is it therefore an unforgivable change to have Guts perform the assassination with something to cover his face, and a non-distinct long sword?  It's not as if he's wearing some elaborate assassin mask; it's just a bandanna to cover his face.  It doesn't alter the method he takes or the sequence of events, but rather makes Guts seem a little less oblivious as to the trouble he could cause for the entire Band of the Hawk by murdering the King's brother and nephew.  He's still stubborn and impulsive by using a big sword to carry it out, and as far as we can tell, he still kills Adonis.   

As far as the argument that Guts is so attached to his sword that he would never, ever use anything else...  Well, he's shown a willingness as the Black Swordsman to use a variety of weapons to deal with the task at hand, including throwing knives, crossbows, and cannons.  This however, could just be evidence of how Guts has grown as a warrior over time.

From my point of view, this is a change that can at least be rationalized quite well, unlike the fact that Guts duels Griffith with his Raider's sword, which implies huge changes with Doldrey.  A change like that undermines many bigger issues, such as the stakes of the battle with Boscogn, Zodd's intervention, plus the loss of symbolism when Guts's sword is severed on his last battle for the Hawks.  I can't judge it until I see how it's all handled, but this change should cause far more concern.

As others have said, I'm going to view the Saga project as an merely an interpretation of Berserk with it's own take on the story.  The same way that everything from The Count of Monte Cristo, Shakespeare, The Three Musketeers, to X-Men, Batman, and Conan have multiple versions.  Some of the changes might suck, some might be genuinely interesting.  I'm not giving it blind faith, but I won't condemn it from the offset either.

The biggest offense though, as Aaz has been sure to point out, is that the Saga was originally announced to be extremely faithful to the Manga.  I just don't consider that to be possible with the run time of three feature films, nor by what we've seen, so I'm just taking the film for what it is: an adaptation that's going to take creative liberties.  While that might not be what a lot of us want, in a way it'll allow some measure of surprise as we watch it versus a paint by numbers 1 to 1 copy of the manga.  No offense intended.   

In the end, I think the '97 anime is going to be the more faithful of the two, despite it's inferior animation quality.  At least it attempts to match most of the manga panels, and to me at least, the darker color palette fits the darker tone of the manga anyway.  My two cents.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: BloodyDevil on November 08, 2011, 02:06:16 AM
WOW ! I really like the new trailer ! The animation is awesome !!! It is very hard to wait until February >__<

I also really like the poster they have done ! It is a very good idea that they choose to show Guts' happiness while he is in the Band of the Falcon (and so before all the suffering he will endure).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 08, 2011, 12:45:02 PM
It is a very good idea that they choose to show Guts' happiness while he is in the Band of the Falcon (and so before all the suffering he will endure).
Even if he was never actually that happy? :schierke: Remember, he only realized what he had as it was fading away. And I can't recall a single time where he was this expressive -- sharing a big, toothy, open-mouthed smile with his comrades after a battle. When Guts shows his teeth, it's normally to be menacing. When he expressed a genuine smile, it's usually just a conservative grin. If you can think of a parallel to the poster in the manga, please show us.

PS: And the character art on the inside jacket of Vol 5 shouldn't count! :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: BloodyDevil on November 08, 2011, 02:51:08 PM
Even if he was never actually that happy? :schierke: Remember, he only realized what he had as it was fading away. And I can't recall a single time where he was this expressive -- sharing a big, toothy, open-mouthed smile with his comrades after a battle. When Guts shows his teeth, it's normally to be menacing. When he expressed a genuine smile, it's usually just a conservative grin. If you can think of a parallel to the poster in the manga, please show us.

PS: And the character art on the inside jacket of Vol 5 shouldn't count! :ganishka:

I was thinking of the scene when he is with Griffith for the water battle (with buckets). If I remember well, it was in the first or second quarter of the fifth volume.

I know that we didn't often see Guts in that state but for the movies, I think it's an easy way to show that Guts was happy to be in the Band of the Falcon : it is the golden age. I know that's really not the usual face of Guts but it is a movie and I think they want to touch also a new public so they think they need to do such things.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 08, 2011, 02:55:50 PM
I was thinking of the scene when he is with Griffith for the water battle (with buckets). If I remember well, it was in the first or second quarter of the fifth volume.
The most we get out of him in that scene is a menacing grin and a goofy smile drawn in a cartoonish way. It's not the same emotion at all.

Here's the trouble: if you have to really hunt for this image, it's a problem. It's not a natural face for Guts. I'm not saying Guts wasn't happy. He was just never THAT happy.

Quote
I know that we didn't often see Guts in that state but for the movies, I think it's an easy way to show that Guts was happy to be in the Band of the Falcon : it is the golden age. I know that's really not the usual face of Guts but it is a movie and I think they want to touch also a new public so they think they need to do such things.
What are these "such things?" Exaggerating the main character's emotions? Could I rephrase your statement to mean: Miura's work wasn't suited for mass appeal. By making Guts smile more, it is. ?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: BloodyDevil on November 08, 2011, 03:05:42 PM
The most we get out of him in that scene is a menacing grin and a goofy smile drawn in a cartoonish way. It's not the same emotion at all.

Here's the trouble: if you have to really hunt for this image, it's a problem. It's not a natural face for Guts. I'm not saying Guts wasn't happy. He was just never THAT happy.
What are these "such things?" Exaggerating the main character's emotions? Could I rephrase your statement to mean: Miura's work wasn't suited for mass appeal. By making Guts smile more, it is. ?

Yes you have perfectly rephrased my thinking ^^
When I told it was a good idea it was because more people would be interested in the movies >__<

If they don't modify the story nor the characters (feelings, ...) and so, the manga is respected, I think we can accept this poster if more people can be interested in it >__<
(Sorry about my bad english >__<)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on November 08, 2011, 11:15:32 PM
This certainly isn't a parallel shot of the same smile as on the poster or anything, but it's probably the closest to *that* type of toothy smile in the manga, and I believe it's the only time he smiled like that. This is Lith's color:
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5246/31708clr.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5246/31708clr.jpg)

The smile in this picture is the best. It's really a rare sight to see Guts expressing himself like this.

Guts' face in the poster is almost the one he'd make if he were saying to his men "LET'S GO HAVE A DRINK!!"
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on November 08, 2011, 11:52:54 PM
Guts' smiles definitely are few and far between. One of my personal favorites would also be with Schierke nearby when the Skull Knight informed him that Casca could regain her memory. Because they are so infrequent, they are enjoyable all the more when their is an air of something pleasant about them, and he's not just grinning/smiling maniacally cause he wants to stab/slice someone very, very badly.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 09, 2011, 08:59:21 AM
This is barely news but this was posted on Clara_de_Porras twitter:

(http://p.twimg.com/AduvJOyCMAI8txY.jpg)

Picture of Adonis, not sure what it says, but the top cover looks a lot like the script to Golden Age I.  :schnoz:

Also:

(http://static.ow.ly/photos/normal/kKtj.jpg)

And my browser translated something like "a new character ???" right before the link to the image, that's sorta disturbing...

**edit, on revision, they still didn't get the hawks logo right on Guts' cape...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 09, 2011, 09:52:40 AM
The method Guts chooses in the manga says a lot about his one track mind at the time, and is a springboard for his later character growth.  He even blows off the choice Griffith gives him and treats it like any other order.  So there are many good reasons to keep it the way it the way Miura wrote it at the time.

It also shows it was done precipitately, likely without having much time to prepare anything at all. I've read people say Guts was "stupid" in carrying out the deed and other such nonsense, but these people fail to realize that Griffith's request was incredibly reckless right from the start. Try to kill the second most important man in the kingdom just like that? And that's why he asked Guts to do it, because he knew he was not only the most skilled and resourceful of his men by far, but also probably the only one that would do it.

To the argument that Guts wasn't famous yet, well I'm not so sure. Guts and Griffith were the only known people to survive a massacre by Zodd, a legendary warrior.  This caused a lot of gossip and celebrity status for at least Griffith, if not Guts to some degree. Guts and Griffith were the only known people to survive a massacre by Zodd, a legendary warrior.  This caused a lot of gossip and celebrity status for at least Griffith, if not Guts to some degree.

Maybe you should be? Read that part of the manga again. It's all about Griffith at that time, and rightly so. Random castle guards wouldn't know so much about the composition of a rising general's army to recognize Guts in the blink of an eye like that.

Is it therefore an unforgivable change to have Guts perform the assassination with something to cover his face, and a non-distinct long sword?  It's not as if he's wearing some elaborate assassin mask; it's just a bandanna to cover his face.  It doesn't alter the method he takes or the sequence of events, but rather makes Guts seem a little less oblivious as to the trouble he could cause for the entire Band of the Hawk by murdering the King's brother and nephew.  He's still stubborn and impulsive by using a big sword to carry it out, and as far as we can tell, he still kills Adonis.

Looks as elaborate as Silat's mask to me, and that's as elaborate as it comes within Berserk's world. And that's the thing: they modified the scene so that he takes additional precautions, but in the end it changes nothing. Guts' extreme effectiveness despite the precipitation and despite not being suited for the job is a tribute to his skill and resourcefulness. To have him "prepare" for the job and still come to the same result makes one wonder why he didn't prepare in ways that mattered. And on another note, why would he have switched his sword for another anyway? Putting aside the fact Guts as we know him would have never done that, what is supposed to be the point? Do you guys think he expected that Adonis would raise the alarm and that he would have to cut through the guards to escape? Thinking that then, they might recognize his sword? No, definitely not. He obviously meant to kill Julius and leave quietly. So why take a non-descript sword along for the job? And where did he get it anyway? Stole it and expected no one would notice? Same goes for the mask. If he came in masked already, why bother killing Adonis? You say he's stubborn and impulsive, but that's a misrepresentation. Just like your rationalization for why the scene could be changed fails to account for a lot of angles in the original scene.

As far as the argument that Guts is so attached to his sword that he would never, ever use anything else...  Well, he's shown a willingness as the Black Swordsman to use a variety of weapons to deal with the task at hand, including throwing knives, crossbows, and cannons.  This however, could just be evidence of how Guts has grown as a warrior over time.

Those never replace his sword. They're complementary. You're going nowhere with this.

From my point of view, this is a change that can at least be rationalized quite well, unlike the fact that Guts duels Griffith with his Raider's sword, which implies huge changes with Doldrey.  A change like that undermines many bigger issues, such as the stakes of the battle with Boscogn, Zodd's intervention, plus the loss of symbolism when Guts's sword is severed on his last battle for the Hawks.  I can't judge it until I see how it's all handled, but this change should cause far more concern.

He could have had the exact same sword re-forged and it'd be way easier to rationalize than the above.

When I told it was a good idea it was because more people would be interested in the movies >__<

Or so you think? More smiling = more people interested? Really? Not that it matters but I can't find much of a basis for that opinion.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lithrael on November 09, 2011, 02:51:09 PM
on revision, they still didn't get the hawks logo right on Guts' cape...

I hate to butt heads with our mighty forum elders but I've got no problem with the gross simplification of the Hawks logo.  It's as simple as 'we can save x amount of hours and time by not drawing it right except in closeups' and it's not a detail I can be angry with them for sacrificing.  It's standard.  Same thing happens to my lovely Autobot and Decepticon sigils at most levels of detail.  As long as they draw it correctly when it's very large or the focus of the scene I am happy to forgive them that liberty.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 09, 2011, 02:58:58 PM
I hate to butt heads with our mighty forum elders but I've got no problem with the gross simplification of the Hawks logo.  It's as simple as 'we can save x amount of hours and time by not drawing it right except in closeups' and it's not a detail I can be angry with them for sacrificing.  It's standard.  Same thing happens to my lovely Autobot and Decepticon sigils at most levels of detail.  As long as they draw it correctly when it's very large or the focus of the scene I am happy to forgive them that liberty.

The logo is wrong close up too, even the giant logo made presumably just for the trailer is wrong.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/Jezza_HR/hawks.jpg)

Sword should be wider, the hilt wider and it should extend much farther down. Logo in general is skinnier.

Very simple thing that you guys should probably know by now: How many feathers should the logo have?

22. 11 on each side. NOT EIGHT! on each side.

VERY WRONG!  :mozgus:

Why change it for no reason? They think it looks cooler? UGH.....  :mozgus:

Also, the smaller logo on their capes/breastplates seems to be simply a different logo, just look at the poster. Surely that will be seen close up, and it's different enough to be called a different logo. Still a Hawks logo, but effort was made into making it different IMHO.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on November 09, 2011, 03:24:11 PM
This is barely news but this was posted on Clara_de_Porras twitter:

(http://p.twimg.com/AduvJOyCMAI8txY.jpg)

Picture of Adonis, not sure what it says, but the top cover looks a lot like the script to Golden Age I.  :schnoz:

Right off the top of my head, I can tell that he's saying something like "Pleased to meet you!!" in the second speech bubble. Unfortunately my very limited Japanese skills won't allow me to recognize the rest of the words  :sad:



(http://static.ow.ly/photos/normal/kKtj.jpg)

And my browser translated something like "a new character ???" right before the link to the image, that's sorta disturbing...
 

Yeah, and which "new character" would that be? Kenny McCormick, who is holding Guts' storyboard sketch to the green cardboard? Or that little Neko Majin chilling, safely tucked beneath Guts' cape?  :ganishka:
Very disturbing, if either of these two is actually going to be introduced as the new character in the movie  :magni:

But no, it seems more likely to me that Clara is just letting the fans know that Adonis is the latest character on whom the 4°C animation production team has finished working on, meaning that his animation and/or seiyuu voice recording for the movie has been completed. If that is indeed the case, we can expect to see Adonis' character profile put up on the Berserk film website very soon. And hopefully, perhaps they'll follow it up with Gambino, Skull Knight and kid Guts, along with a slew of other characters who are yet to appear in either the trailers, promo shots or posters   :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 09, 2011, 03:33:57 PM
But no, it seems more likely to me that Clara is just letting the fans know that Adonis is the latest character on whom the 4°C animation production team has finished working on, meaning that his animation and/or seiyuu voice recording for the movie has been completed. If that is indeed the case, we can expect to see Adonis' character profile put up on the Berserk film website very soon. And hopefully, perhaps they'll follow it up with Gambino, Skull Knight and kid Guts, along with a slew of other characters who are yet to appear in either the trailers, promo shots or posters   :guts:

I can't tell if you're joking or not.  :???:

Either way you're reading way much into a sketch and a partial translation... a bad one. It's probably just an office gag.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on November 09, 2011, 04:08:46 PM
Concerning the Falcon logo, though it does speak to the limits of the production, it is indeed relatively insignificant compared to some of the serious inconsistencies we've seen, namely things effecting the plot. The reason I point this out is I don't want those substantive complaints to be equated with something superficial like the lacking quality of the insignia. Frankly, it's frustrating that with all the bigger issues we've seen, this one has caught on in this thread while more significant problems are largely ignored or dismissed. I'd much rather we talk about how almost everything we've seen has been notably altered, how the '97 anime we condemn for lack of faithfulness looks downright reverent by comparison, or why some overlook or ignore these things and treat this adaptation more sacrosanct than, ya know, the original story.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on November 09, 2011, 05:17:49 PM
Yeah, and which "new character" would that be? Kenny McCormick, who is holding Guts' storyboard sketch to the green cardboard?
Sachiel from Evangelion: http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfyo50vouL1qe0rnyo1_400.jpg

Or Lilith from Rebuild of Evangelion: http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/406/utwthoraevangelion222yo.png


Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 09, 2011, 05:58:29 PM
Sword should be wider, the hilt wider and it should extend much farther down. Logo in general is skinnier.
Don't get your feathers all ruffled! Miura's own design for the logo changes over time. Check this image out from volume 23, when Guts reflects on Midland disappearing.  (http://skullknight.net/images/hawklogo2.jpg) Versus a much earlier appearance here in volume 6. (http://skullknight.net/images/hawklogo5.jpg)

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Very simple thing that you guys should probably know by now: How many feathers should the logo have?

22. 11 on each side. NOT EIGHT! on each side.

VERY WRONG!  :mozgus:
Very simple thing that you should have probably checked before you posted: it varies. Sometimes it's 9 feathers per side. Sometimes it's 11. Nothing to get all nerdy over. In this image, from volume 8, there are 9 per side.  (http://skullknight.net/images/hawklogo3.jpg) I also counted one in the background here that has 8 feathers. And one that looks like the one from the Saga project. It also doesn't mean very much...

Concerning the Falcon logo, though it does speak to the limits of the production, it is indeed relatively insignificant compared to some of the serious inconsistencies we've seen, namely things effecting the plot. The reason I point this out is I don't want those substantive complaints to be equated with something superficial like the lacking quality of the insignia. Frankly, it's frustrating that with all the bigger issues we've seen, this one has caught on in this thread while more significant problems are largely ignored or dismissed. I'd much rather we talk about how almost everything we've seen has been notably altered, how the '97 anime we condemn for lack of faithfulness looks downright reverent by comparison, or why some overlook or ignore these things and treat this adaptation more sacrosanct than, ya know, the original story.
Wholeheartedly agree. I really didn't intend for the logo to become this big of an issue. I imagine it's just an easy one to grasp, but there are indeed much bigger changes in store for the saga.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Dar Klink on November 09, 2011, 09:48:12 PM
PS: And the character art on the inside jacket of Vol 5 shouldn't count! :ganishka:
:judo: I was just going to post it(with a disclaimer that it shouldn't count anyway)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 10, 2011, 02:38:42 AM
Heh, my apologies about the logo, particularly to Lith, it's been a long week (0 hours of sleep last night doesn't help). Thanks for correcting me Walter, and taking the time to link the images. I feel pretty dumb... Though it still bothers me, some of that is due to my choice of body art.  :sad:

Still though, I think there's a "more official" version, like I was describing, and little things like this sometimes will bother me more than the bigger picture. What if they mess around with the Brand? Or Guts' nose scar? Or what eye of his is closed post-Eclipse? etc etc.

It's unsettling also because I assume this animation team is well aware of how fanatical the core fan base for Berserk is. We're the people that'd go see the movie 15+ times if it did the series justice, ya know? You'd think they'd be a bit more cautious with this shit.

Trying to put my nerd rage aside for a while, I'm losing my mind.  :???:

....

On a side note, I find it kinda sickening that the sketch I posted above of Guts would've been a better image to use on the poster than the one we have currently. Let's hope this doesn't turn out to be the one that becomes most associated with the trilogy/movie. We'll see I suppose.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 10, 2011, 06:42:24 AM
It's as simple as 'we can save x amount of hours and time by not drawing it right except in closeups' and it's not a detail I can be angry with them for sacrificing.

I'm not sure it's much of a gain of time to not draw it properly. Furthermore, it's on 3D models, isn't it? So they'd just have to do it once and it'd be good forever. Just sayin'.

Yeah, and which "new character" would that be? Kenny McCormick, who is holding Guts' storyboard sketch to the green cardboard? Or that little Neko Majin chilling, safely tucked beneath Guts' cape?  :ganishka:
Very disturbing, if either of these two is actually going to be introduced as the new character in the movie  :magni:

Was just a joke from Clara and it refers to the critter in Guts' cape. If you people are going to post stuff from Twitter at least read all the messages.

It's unsettling also because I assume this animation team is well aware of how fanatical the core fan base for Berserk is. We're the people that'd go see the movie 15+ times if it did the series justice, ya know? You'd think they'd be a bit more cautious with this shit.

Not any more fanatical than any other core fan base, frankly. Probably less so than most, as a matter of fact.

Concerning the Falcon logo, though it does speak to the limits of the production, it is indeed relatively insignificant compared to some of the serious inconsistencies we've seen, namely things effecting the plot. The reason I point this out is I don't want those substantive complaints to be equated with something superficial like the lacking quality of the insignia. Frankly, it's frustrating that with all the bigger issues we've seen, this one has caught on in this thread while more significant problems are largely ignored or dismissed. I'd much rather we talk about how almost everything we've seen has been notably altered, how the '97 anime we condemn for lack of faithfulness looks downright reverent by comparison, or why some overlook or ignore these things and treat this adaptation more sacrosanct than, ya know, the original story.

That bears repeating.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lithrael on November 10, 2011, 05:53:31 PM
I'm not sure it's much of a gain of time to not draw it properly. Furthermore, it's on 3D models, isn't it? So they'd just have to do it once and it'd be good forever. Just sayin'.

Any occasion where it is hand drawn it makes a ginormous difference having a simpler shape to draw rather than a more complex one, if you can get away with it.  Any occasion where it's CG it'll want to agree with the hand drawn version at whatever level of detail.  Also the problem with over-detailing your work and then shrinking it down is that, if your resolution is too low for the detail, you get problems with clear readability, and if your resolution *does* carry the detail, you've still got trouble with that bit of hyper-detail not matching the level of detail in the rest of the drawn scene.  It looks better if it all matches.

However, given that they're making it up when it's a banner taking up the whole screen, the point is kinda moot.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 10, 2011, 06:12:16 PM
Any occasion where it is hand drawn it makes a ginormous difference having a simpler shape to draw rather than a more complex one, if you can get away with it.

Are they getting away with it though? In the end it looks pretty sloppy in the shots where it's clearly visible. We're not talking about bandages on a sword handle or laces on a boot or something like that, but an insignia stuck on the chest of the main characters. I'd say that at some point "saving time" has to take a backseat to things looking good, but that's just me. Anyway it's not the end of the world, but piled on top of everything else I can see how it annoys people.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on November 16, 2011, 08:44:42 AM
Couple new Clara_de_porras tweets this morning (4:30 EST) and one of them links to an interview (http://book.asahi.com/book/comicbreak/2011111500003.html). I thought maybe I could translate it and be able to make out what's going on. I can, sordove, but it's more hilarious and lost in translation than anything. I thought I'd share some of the things my translator processed from the interview.

"I was turned into a high school basketball."

"I continue to read in real time."

"Go! In the rice table tennis."

"I type too conceal inner table."

and ""Why, are you'm Guts" is broken (laughs)."
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on November 18, 2011, 05:58:48 AM
A brand new update from the Berserk film site;

http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=237

In addition to a new promo poster, which depicts a Crimson Beherit in a God Hand summoning mode, with "corrected" facial features and all, they've also made an announcement about a pair of what appears to be Guts and Griffith bobbleheads that will be going on sale to help promote the movie.  
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Dar Klink on November 18, 2011, 08:58:35 AM
a pair of what appears to be Guts and Griffith bobbleheads that will be going on sale to help promote the movie.  
Those look like gashapons actually, little mini figures that usually come in blind boxes. I really hope they make a set for the movie, I'd love to have gashapons of the Falcons in that style.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 18, 2011, 09:09:46 AM
Those look like gashapons actually, little mini figures that usually come in blind boxes. I really hope they make a set for the movie, I'd love to have gashapons of the Falcons in that style.

They're bonuses for people buying advance tickets at Circle K Sunkus, so I wouldn't hold my breath for a whole set. There's also a microfiber towel to get, I wonder what it looks like. The cellphone wallpapers and such aren't very interesting.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 18, 2011, 12:45:10 PM
Those look like gashapons actually, little mini figures that usually come in blind boxes. I really hope they make a set for the movie, I'd love to have gashapons of the Falcons in that style.

I second this, those bobble heads look pretty cool.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 18, 2011, 04:43:27 PM
I second this, those bobble heads look pretty cool.
I also agree, I really love how detailed are their faces, very faithful to the anime-designs. I just started to dream of statues in this quality, it'd be cool if they made some after the movie came out, I think they would sell good among fans.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Julalien on November 22, 2011, 12:46:37 AM
Just saw this on Anime News Network:

"The staff for the Berserk anime film project confirmed on Tuesday that the second and third films in the Golden Age trilogy will also open next year after February 4's Berserk Ōgon Jidai-Hen I: Haō no Tamago (Berserk Golden Age Arc I: Egg of the Supreme Ruler).
 
Berserk Ōgon Jidai-Hen II: Doldrey Kōryaku (Berserk Golden Age Arc II: The Battle for Doldrey) will open in June and run for about 100 minutes. As the name implies, this installment will focus on the epic battle by the Kingdom of Midland to retake Doldrey Castle from the Chuder Empire.
 
Berserk Ōgon Jidai-Hen III: Kōrin (Berserk Golden Age Arc III: Descent) will open in June and run for about 110 minutes. In this film, the story "delves nonstop into the abyss of dark fantasy."
 
The first film will be about 80 minutes long and have 1,114 cuts. The second film will have 1,257 cuts, and the third will have 1,591 for a grand total across the entire trilogy of 3,962."

I've gotta say that I am completely thrilled about seeing the eclipse in the third film although I am very worried about poor Wyald being skipped again....

I'll post updates to the article as they come in as I feel there are mistakes in some of the details of the report, as I doubt that both the second and third films will be released in the same month and that the title of the article mentions the June date for the second film but mentions that the third will arrive "later in the year".
 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on November 22, 2011, 01:50:38 AM
It's good / bad news that apparently we'll get all 3 films in 1 year. I want to see the Black Swordsman stuff animated badly. But either they've been hard at work on this for a while, with a lot of the stuff already done, or they're rushing and might do a shoddy job. Also, the time issue worries me. I am afraid there are gonna be A LOT of cuts. If you add all the time they mentioned up, and divide it by 24 (the number of Golden Age original TV episodes), you get something like 12 minutes. So, imagine the original TV anime if more than 10 minutes were chopped off each episode. Boooo..

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Dar Klink on November 22, 2011, 02:25:27 AM
It's good / bad news that apparently we'll get all 3 films in 1 year. I want to see the Black Swordsman stuff animated badly. But either they've been hard at work on this for a while, with a lot of the stuff already done, or they're rushing and might do a shoddy job. Also, the time issue worries me. I am afraid there are gonna be A LOT of cuts. If you add all the time they mentioned up, and divide it by 24 (the number of Golden Age original TV episodes), you get something like 12 minutes. So, imagine the original TV anime if more than 10 minutes were chopped off each episode. Boooo..



Oh hey, I can somewhat imagine that... griffithsmiling.jpg

But really, why so short? This saddens me, just more reasons to hope that after the films we get Black Swordsman OVA series that REALLY follow the story 1:1.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 22, 2011, 02:44:51 AM
If you add all the time they mentioned up, and divide it by 24 (the number of Golden Age original TV episodes), you get something like 12 minutes. So, imagine the original TV anime if more than 10 minutes were chopped off each episode. Boooo..



That's not an entirely accurate way of looking at it. If you take out added content it probably adds up to about 40-50 minutes alone. Then take away any extended scenes with just music cutting in and out etc, that's probably ~10 or 15 more, etc etc. I think it's easier to simply not draw on comparison to the 97 TV series in that regard. That said anything less than 2 hours is a crying shame.... and 80 minutes is nigh unforgivable, but what can ya do.

For some reason the titles of the movies are bothering me. Battle for Doldrey? Really? Ugh. Signs of oversimplification ahoy! And Descent is even worse... it's almost as if there's some subconscious effort to say the integration of fantasy elements is somehow a downhill progression imo, though I get what they were trying to say. Anyway, on the up side it's quite exciting that we'll get the whole trilogy in a year. That means we should start seeing signs of the much hypothesized (and likely imo) OVA's much sooner than I've been speculating.

I'd also like to say that with the inclination of run times throughout the trilogy it's raised my hopes a bit of seeing at least Silat and the Bakiraka. Probably not Wyald, though... looks like the Eclipse will still be just as shocking as ever this go around as well, which, when you try to look through an optimistic lens, means more people referring to the manga again once the trilogy is over. That's a plus in my books. If we can't have it all, at least let's have more manga-converts after all is said and done. Right?

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I doubt that both the second and third films will be released in the same month

If they stick to an organized schedule then Descent should be released ~October (All Hallow's time, not bad marketing).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on November 22, 2011, 03:56:59 AM
Yeah I knew my math was a little bit off. Also, I think back to Berserk: Recut and I'm a little tiny bit less worried.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on November 22, 2011, 04:00:28 AM
I doubt the 3rd movie is in the same month as the 2nd movie. They should make it a November release in honor of my birthday. :troll:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 22, 2011, 04:43:43 AM
The official site just posted their own news release, basically backing up what ANN posted: http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=258 The only additional tidbit to be gleaned, as far as I could see, was that movie 3 doesn't have a specific release date. Just "2012." Oh, and it seems that The Golden Age was originally intended to be released as one film. I can't imagine what a train wreck that would have been...


Berserk Ōgon Jidai-Hen II: Doldrey Kōryaku (Berserk Golden Age Arc II: The Battle for Doldrey) will open in June and run for about 100 minutes. As the name implies, this installment will focus on the epic battle by the Kingdom of Midland to retake Doldrey Castle from the Chuder Empire.
Which would place the end of the first film near the fallout from Julius' assassination. The Hawks leaving for battle toward the end of volume 6 seems a logical ending point, as the introduction of Adon in the subsequent battle directly coincides with the next chain of events, leading to Doldrey, which is in movie 2.

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The first film will be about 80 minutes long and have 1,114 cuts. The second film will have 1,257 cuts, and the third will have 1,591 for a grand total across the entire trilogy of 3,962."
What shoddy reporting. What is the significance of the "cuts" ? Are they referring to the editing process, and how often the camera changes perspectives/scenes?  Why quantify it to the level that they did here?

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I've gotta say that I am completely thrilled about seeing the eclipse in the third film although I am very worried about poor Wyald being skipped again....
There may still be time for him. It'd be a great way to start movie 3.

For some reason the titles of the movies are bothering me. Battle for Doldrey? Really? Ugh. Signs of oversimplification ahoy!
Don't believe everything you read. Anime News Network just translated it wrong. The kanji for the title is based on the same wording as the 6-part episode that spans between Volume 7-8: Capture of Doldrey (ドルドレイ攻略戦). And actually the kanji for "Battle" (戦) is missing from the movie title. Maybe it's just implied?

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And Descent is even worse... it's almost as if there's some subconscious effort to say the integration of fantasy elements is somehow a downhill progression imo, though I get what they were trying to say.
Now you're just overreacting... But likewise, the title of the movie is based on Episode 75: Descent (降臨). So basically you just made fun of Miura's own titles twice in a row. Good job! :miura:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: PublicEnemy on November 22, 2011, 05:33:41 AM
I'm surprised the three movies have very short lengths. Well, at least the movies aren't leaving about Skull Knight like the TV series did. Susumu doing music for the movie is a plus since that was a very important part of the tv show. I am just waiting for the announcement of the movies coming stateside. Suck if we didn't get them even though Warner Bros. is handling distribution.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 22, 2011, 05:44:25 AM
I'm surprised the three movies have very short lengths.
It's a pretty standard time for animated feature films, as was stated earlier in the thread.  (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12735.msg203476#msg203476) I suppose we should be grateful that it's longer than 60 minutes  :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: PublicEnemy on November 22, 2011, 06:04:18 AM
It's a pretty standard time for animated feature films, as was stated earlier in the thread.  (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12735.msg203476#msg203476) I suppose we should be grateful that it's not 60 minutes  :griffnotevil:

60 minutes wouldn't even cover anything at all lol.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on November 22, 2011, 06:11:03 AM
Since practically all the scenes depicted in the movie trailer can be fairly accurately placed as having been derived from volumes 4 through 6, it should have been expected that Golden Age I isn't gonna be covering the battle of Doldrey. But I am quite concerned about the lack of any indication in the news about whether or not the scenes depicting Guts' childhood will be kept in the movie. So I'm hoping that for more updates on the cast of characters' page soon, on the Berserk film site.

The official site just posted their own news release, basically backing up with ANN posted: http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=258 The only additional tidbit to be gleaned, as far as I could see, was that movie 3 doesn't have a specific release date. Just "2012."
Which would place the end of the first film near the fallout of Julius' assassination. The Hawks leaving for battle toward the end of volume 6 seems a logical ending point, as the introduction of Adon in the subsequent battle directly coincides with the next chain of events, leading to the Doldrey, which is in movie 2.

Yes, after looking through the tankobon volumes that span the Golden Age arc and trying to guess more precisely on which episodes is the movie gonna be based upon, and also assuming that it'll also include Guts' childhood, I am more willing to believe that the movie is going to be covering from the episodes "Golden Age (1)" through the "Precious Thing."
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 22, 2011, 06:18:30 AM
I am more willing to believe that the movie is going to be covering from the episodes "Golden Age (1)" through the "Precious Thing."
I don't think Precious Thing is a better ending point than Departure for the Front, which has some more processing of the events in the preceding episodes, while also providing a cameo of things to come. But sure, I could see it swinging either way at this point. But Golden Age (1) really? You sound so optimistic! The general ending point isn't really in question as far as I'm concerned. Now, how it begins, and what will be cut from how the Golden Age begins in the manga is the real question...

Given the new information about runtime, I'm starting to wonder where movie 2 will end... A natural breaking point would be after the duel, but I can't imagine them cramming volumes 9-14 in one movie. Another way to do it would be end movie 2 as the Hawks escape with Griffith. That would leave ample time for Wyald, the Eclipse, and the aftermath.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Tsundere on November 22, 2011, 09:54:40 AM
I can't imagine this to stay "true" with those runtimes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 22, 2011, 03:04:44 PM
I can't imagine this to stay "true" with those runtimes.

80 minutes + 100 minutes + 110 minutes...

290 minutes to the first animes 600 minute runtime? *Inser Darth Vader NOOOOO*
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Xem on November 22, 2011, 03:52:51 PM
Now you're just overreacting... But likewise, the title of the movie is based on Episode 75: Descent (降臨). So basically you just made fun of Miura's own titles twice in a row. Good job! :miura:


You'll see what I'm saying in a couple years when you have anime fanboys hootin' and hollerin' about "That Doldrey Movie!" or "But in Descent when Guts kissed Casca" ....

Ya not that big of a deal, small fries really, but still short-sighted.  :azan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on November 22, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
80 minutes + 100 minutes + 110 minutes...

290 minutes to the first animes 600 minute runtime? *Inser Darth Vader NOOOOO*

My expectations are really low at this point. It's becoming more apparent that these new movies won't be nearly as faithful as the old anime.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Tzur on November 22, 2011, 05:01:48 PM
Well, the running times are certainly a disappointment. I'd be happy if Wyald made it in for even 15 minutes, which isn't too extraordinarily optimistic. The anime TV series is sort of an embarrassment in my books, mainly do to the poor quality animation and shitty still shots. The new animation earns points simply from the superior animation.

Either way, I'm still excited about the new Berserk series. There are a few people who I've been trying to get into the series but are too lazy to read. An abridged movie trilogy is a good staring point to get them into the series and might give them incentive to read the manga.

I wonder if they'll leave in the backstory of Gaiseric/Skull Knight or if that'll be removed also. It would be kind of ignorant if they axed that IMO.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 22, 2011, 05:58:00 PM
I think we shouldn't do these time countings... Movies are very different from a series I think.

I'm also afraid of Wyald getting cut out - actually, I would understand it, because he doesn't have a role after, but on the other hand, this whole scene with this disgusting monster and Casca running around naked describes how badass Berserk is (actually, that was the scene when, while reading it, I said out loud that "I cannot describe how much am I amazed by the perverted genius of this man")  :ganishka:
So I'm hoping for Wyald...
And please, somebody calm me down by saying that there's no way we won't see Silat and the Baakiraka in the movies...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on November 22, 2011, 06:41:14 PM
And please, somebody calm me down by saying that there's no way we won't see Silat and the Baakiraka in the movies...

There is no way we will see Silat and the Baakiraka in the movies.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on November 22, 2011, 07:06:33 PM
There is no way we will see Silat and the Baakiraka in the movies.
That's exactly the opposite of what I wanted to hear... You wanna make me worried?  :magni:
Please, there are enough shitty things in my life, don't f*ck up Berserk - one of those few little things that light it up! (I actually want to say it to the staff who're making the movie, and threataning them by doing a harakiri... I don't think they would care, haha...)

But actually it's a good thing that we will get the three movies in one year, I'd get crazy if I had to wait 1-2 years between them, but hearing these news, I don't have that disappointing feeling like "This'll never end, I'll die before it finishes..."

And also the separation of the storyline seems logical... I think, if the 3rd movie starts with the rescue of Griffith and end with the Eclipse, we'll have enough time for Wyald (well, I hope at least)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 22, 2011, 07:32:50 PM
Really, you guys shouldn't be so surprised by the run times. 80 mn is short, sure, but given how much of the story they've seemingly removed they must not have much left to show. The other two are closer to average, and what else did people expect anyway? 180 mn each? That was never going to happen. Especially since, as mentioned in the official website's update, they originally planned to make a single big movie. Not a trilogy. It was decided to split it in 3 parts later on. I guess that explains why it's kind of a mess... Let's just hope they manage to fix it up as much as possible before the release(s).

I've gotta say that I am completely thrilled about seeing the eclipse in the third film although I am very worried about poor Wyald being skipped again....

Well it's not like they weren't going to show the Eclipse... Wyald though... I'm as worried as you are.

I want to see the Black Swordsman stuff animated badly.

You're just hurting yourself.

But either they've been hard at work on this for a while, with a lot of the stuff already done, or they're rushing and might do a shoddy job.

We knew from the beginning that they weren't strictly working on the first movie (seeing scenes with the Skull Knight, for example), so it's not too surprising. Oh and we already knew they were doing a shoddy job as well. :troll:

If we can't have it all, at least let's have more manga-converts after all is said and done. Right?

We're not a cult recruiting new members.

Descent should be released ~October (All Hallow's time, not bad marketing).

Really?

I doubt the 3rd movie is in the same month as the 2nd movie.

How perspicacious.

Since practically all the scenes depicted in the movie trailer can be fairly accurately placed as having been derived from volumes 4 through 6, it should have been expected that Golden Age I isn't gonna be covering the battle of Doldrey.

Everybody expected it already as far as I can tell.

You'll see what I'm saying in a couple years when you have anime fanboys hootin' and hollerin' about "That Doldrey Movie!" or "But in Descent when Guts kissed Casca" ....

Ya not that big of a deal, small fries really, but still short-sighted.  :azan:

Dude you were too quick to judge what they did, don't dwell on it. The trilogy format itself doesn't suit the story being told, so subtitles are really not that big of a deal in comparison.

There are a few people who I've been trying to get into the series but are too lazy to read. An abridged movie trilogy is a good staring point to get them into the series and might give them incentive to read the manga.

You'll forgive me, but I've always thought that people too lazy to read weren't worth wasting time on (to try and convince them to read it anyway, that is).

There is no way we will see Silat and the Baakiraka in the movies.

I think there's a good chance they'll be in there actually. Will provide the action for the first part of the third movie, up until the Eclipse.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on November 23, 2011, 12:51:55 AM
but I can't imagine them cramming volumes 9-14 in one movie.

I'm not to stress about that one; meaning there are a lot of parts in these volume that are "mainly graphics" (not dialogue in general I mean) So I just take it 9sadly) that the fight scenes will probably shortened. Especially the eclipse when everybody is getting eating. They might not show all of it but the essential and more important stuff (not that the rest isn't important but you know what I mean).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 23, 2011, 01:47:59 AM
I'm not to stress about that one; meaning there are a lot of parts in these volume that are "mainly graphics" (not dialogue in general I mean) So I just take it 9sadly) that the fight scenes will probably shortened. Especially the eclipse when everybody is getting eating. They might not show all of it but the essential and more important stuff (not that the rest isn't important but you know what I mean).
Agreed that much of volumes 12-13 are visual, and could be absorbed quicker in a different medium. But I'm also talking about the sheer number of plot developments that are crammed between those dense volumes.

Let's say movie 3 truly spans Volumes 9~14. That would include:
-Guts trains for a year away from the Hawks
-Griffith's time in prison
-Guts reunites with Hawks
-Guts and Casca become a couple
-Hawks rescue Griffith
-Bakiraka attack the Hawks
-Wyald is sent after the Hawks
-Wyald is defeated, turns into apostle, reveals Griffith's body, then killed by Zodd
-Reflection before the Eclipse
-The Eclipse
-Escape
-"The One who Hunts for a Dragon."

All of that in under 2 hours... it's a lot to cover. Just try to imagine the pacing of it, and how unnatural it would feel to move from one major event to the other in that short a time span.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on November 23, 2011, 03:06:39 AM
I think I read volumes 9-14 extremely fast compared to some other volumes, just because of the amount of action. I think fitting it all into the third movie is plausible. The fights themselves don't need to take that long, and things like Griffith in prison and Guts training aren't going to take up that much time. The eclipse will be pretty lengthy though. I don't know, I've lost a lot of faith now that I know the running times, but I haven't completely given up.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on November 23, 2011, 04:35:16 AM
Agreed that much of volumes 12-13 are visual, and could be absorbed quicker in a different medium. But I'm also talking about the sheer number of plot developments that are crammed between those dense volumes.

Let's say movie 3 truly spans Volumes 9~14. That would include:
-Guts trains for a year away from the Hawks
-Griffith's time in prison
-Guts reunites with Hawks
-Guts and Casca become a couple
-Hawks rescue Griffith
-Bakiraka attack the Hawks
-Wyald is sent after the Hawks
-Wyald is defeated, turns into apostle, reveals Griffith's body, then killed by Zodd
-Reflection before the Eclipse
-The Eclipse
-Escape
-"The One who Hunts for a Dragon."

All of that in under 2 hours... it's a lot to cover. Just try to imagine the pacing of it, and how unnatural it would feel to move from one major event to the other in that short a time span.

Yeah I didn't think about it that way, but still I have a bit of hope. (still afraid of a possible Wyald cut or something though)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on November 23, 2011, 09:28:32 AM
I have a question could someone explain WHY they can't make Berserk movies as long as Lord of the Ring ones, making silly 80 mins instead?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: berserk36 on November 23, 2011, 09:30:16 AM
I have a question could someone explain WHY they can't make Berserk movies as long as Lord of the Ring, making silly 80 mins ?

I think part 3 is h 1:50 long
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on November 23, 2011, 09:33:27 AM
I mean, epic 3 movies 3 hours each!  :judo:  Miura, if you visit SK.net and read this you must know that your fans are not happy!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: supa_pokute on November 23, 2011, 03:03:42 PM
I don't think you realize how expensive it is to produce some of these animated films. As much as I agree I wish it were longer, it is what it is.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: skullnights_pants on November 23, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
This is a movie so of course its going to be shorter, and won't include everything the TV series did, so its not useful to compare like for like?

3 hour chapters would be good but the commercial reality is that they certainly needed it to be sub 90mins to cater for the movie crowd and not just berserk fans
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 23, 2011, 10:01:04 PM
the commercial reality is that they certainly needed it to be sub 90mins to cater for the movie crowd and not just berserk fans
Are you a film industry authority with experience in "the commercial reality" of movie-goers? I ask because your answer here sounds presumptuous, particularly in light of how most movies these days are well over 90 minutes.

This bullshit aside, I don't know why so many people are surprised by the run time suddenly... Most animations are short. Why should this one be any different, particularly since it was originally planned as a single movie.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: skullnights_pants on November 23, 2011, 10:22:38 PM
Are you a film industry authority with experience in "the commercial reality" of movie-goers? I ask because your answer here sounds presumptuous, particularly in light of how most movies these days are well over 90 minutes.

This bullshit aside, I don't know why so many people are surprised by the run time suddenly... Most animations are short. Why should this one be any different, particularly since it was originally planned as a single movie.

I am not so sure that most movies are over 90 mins, what I said was a well known assumption thrown around, a lot of commercial films are often around 90 mark, but I wouldn't call my post bullshit.

Looking at IMDB top animated films (I couldn't find an anime list), a good proportion of them are around 90mins, and is surprises me that Toy Story is only 77m  :magni:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on November 23, 2011, 10:30:19 PM
Are you a film industry authority with experience in "the commercial reality" of movie-goers? I ask because your answer here sounds presumptuous, particularly in light of how most movies these days are well over 90 minutes.
I was fucking hoping so bad that he was gonna reply, "I AM." and then gives us a scan of his Warner Brothers Studios ID badge. He works in the "epic movie writing" department, too.

Anyway, I would feel a little bit better if this Golden Age story was a quadrilogy instead of a trilogy. The time thing really does worry me, considering these guys stated they wanted to be accurate to the manga. Another thing that would make me feel a little bit better is a production shot of Donovan.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: skullnights_pants on November 23, 2011, 10:31:49 PM
can someone answer, how much input did miura have for the anime and for this current project?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 23, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
My point is that a movie can be over 90 minutes and still very profitable, and commercially viable. I really don't see why you would think otherwise, given the recent blockbuster successes of Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings.

Now, obviously the commercial aspects of this are different for an animated feature. But that's not how you phrased your assertion, which was that 90 minute movies are more appealing to audiences.

I am not so sure that most movies are over 90 mins,
Ninety-minutes hasn't been the standard for over a decade. Most movies are well over 100 minutes now. If you want some verifiable, yet non-scientific, proof here's a listing of current movies along with their run times: http://movies.yahoo.com/showtimes-tickets/

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but I wouldn't call my post bullshit.
Well, sure. You wouldn't, but I would.

can someone answer, how much input did miura have for the anime and for this current project?
No one can answer that right now. All we have is a short blurb from Miura from last year stating that he was excited about bringing Berserk to a new audience. His specific level of input for the movies is not known.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: skullnights_pants on November 23, 2011, 11:11:27 PM
Well my reasoning was that there was probably enough material for it to be over 90m like with all films made these days, but it was cut down to sub 90m. I know a lot of films do well over this amount but what reason is ther to trim it down?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: puppet12ca on November 23, 2011, 11:20:38 PM
Another thing that would make me feel a little bit better is a production shot of Donovan.

A fully CGI'd Donovan would probably make my stomach lurch but yeah some evidence of Guts Childhood being in this movie would be welcome
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on November 23, 2011, 11:39:23 PM
Well my reasoning was that there was probably enough material for it to be over 90m like with all films made these days, but it was cut down to sub 90m. I know a lot of films do well over this amount but what reason is ther to trim it down?
You started your assertion by saying the movies were likely limited to under 90 minutes because that's how audiences like to digest them. Clearly that isn't a rule, as has been proven with examples earlier. But for an animated movie in Japan, 80 minutes isn't that short. It's pretty much average. Why? Likely for an entirely different reason: budgetary constraints.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on November 23, 2011, 11:44:20 PM
I don't think Precious Thing is a better ending point than Departure for the Front, which has some more processing of the events in the preceding episodes, while also providing a cameo of things to come. But sure, I could see it swinging either way at this point.

Yeah, either of those episodes can work fine as a conclusion for the first movie. But in my opinion, "Precious Thing" would serve better as ending. Because seeing Guts, while still shaken and exhausted by the assassination job, making that mildly stunned facial expression after overhearing Griffith's candid speech to Charlotte about friendship/having a meaning in life, and then abruptly turning around and walking off after noticing Griffith's crooked smirk that he makes upon hearing the news of Julius' and Adonis' deaths, it all shows the hints of personal dissatisfaction and unease Guts is starting to feel about being Griffith's crutch. This, in turn serves as an appropriate prelude to his quitting of the Hawks in the next movie.
On the other hand, the brief but prominent display of the Midland's royal flag accompanied by a short narration about its symbolism at the start of "Departure for the Front" alongside with the shots of Midland armies with their nation's magnificent architecture in the background, this would function really well as an opening scene for the second movie.        

But Golden Age (1), really? You sound so optimistic!

The portrayal of Guts' childhood in the manga is quite concise and straightforward to begin with, standing at no more than ~130 pages when put together. So I don't think that it'd really take up too much screen time in the movie, if adapted. That's why I was being hopeful in my previous post about further updates on the list of characters on the film's website. Keep in mind that just over a month ago, there were only initially 3 characters listed, as opposed to the 11 that we have now. So if Gambino becomes a latest addition to the cast of characters, this would be a reliable indicator of Guts' childhood being preserved in the upcoming movie (since Gambino is so heavily tied to it), even if that part of the story hasn't been depicted in a trailer.  


The general ending point isn't really in question as far as I'm concerned. Now, how it begins, and what will be cut from how the Golden Age begins in the manga is the real question...

If the Studio 4°C chooses to cut out Guts' childhood scenes, then the only other logical starting point for the movie would be the battle sequence from the episode "Golden Age (3)", right where the caption reads "4 years later" on page 86.  

Given the new information about runtime, I'm starting to wonder where movie 2 will end... A natural breaking point would be after the duel, but I can't imagine them cramming volumes 9-14 in one movie. Another way to do it would be end movie 2 as the Hawks escape with Griffith.

As each Berserk film's ending is gonna have to set the stage for the next installment, after re-reading through the Golden Age arc episodes I think the second film can end either with;
a) Griffith passionately kissing Charlotte, as seen at the last page of the episode "Knight of the Skeleton" and the first page of the "Start of the Everlasting Night"  
or
b) Griffith crouched up with a pained expression on his face in a fetal position and clawing his shoulder with his fingernails, after having fornicated with Charlotte  

Both of these scenes equally underscore the painful shock and despair Griffith experienced in the immediate aftermath of losing Guts, while simultaneously paving the way for his and the Hawks' ultimate downfall.  
 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
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Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on November 25, 2011, 03:48:58 AM
DAMMIT THEY'RE NOT COLORED IN!! I WANT DARK BLUE FEMTO TO BE VERIFIED!!! Otherwise, that's an awesome picture. I wonder what all that says.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on November 25, 2011, 05:45:19 AM
DAMMIT THEY'RE NOT COLORED IN!! I WANT DARK BLUE FEMTO TO BE VERIFIED!!! Otherwise, that's an awesome picture. I wonder what all that says.

I think they're saying that the tickets for the second Berserk film will be available in the March of next year, before that film itself is out in theaters in June. And the third and final installment in the Golden Age trilogy will be out later on in 2012, as we've already been told. Also, for the fans who have bought the so-called "limited edition premium" tickets for all three of the Golden Age movies, they can receive that God Hand poster as bonus, with proofs of purchase of those tickets. Basically, as we can all see, this is Studio 4°C's marketing strategy to get the Berserk fans to go watch each of all three Golden Age films when they are released in the theaters. The offer does not include those plastic Beherits, sadly.

Of course, since the folks at Studio 4°C know how successfully appealing to the longtime dedicated fan base can go a long way when it comes to determining whether their anime adaptation is gonna be a box office hit or a bomb, creating such an appeal based on a)faithfulness to the original manga and b)animation quality would have served much better for the movies' success in the long run than the posters, toys or other knick knacks  :schierke:   
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on November 25, 2011, 08:30:09 AM
The way they are placed, kinda reminds me of the Dalton brothers  :schnoz:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: CCS on November 30, 2011, 07:40:33 PM
That picture of the Godhand is fuckin awesome.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on November 30, 2011, 08:31:58 PM
That picture of the Godhand is fuckin awesome.

I wouldn't go that far.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on December 02, 2011, 02:59:51 PM
According to the film's website, the limited "premium edition" tickets, which the fans can use to claim that God Hand poster, will be going on sale in Japan tomorrow. Also, as they've already previously mentioned it before, the tickets for the second film, "The Battle for Doldrey" will go on sale on March 12 of next year.   

http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=292

It's interesting to note how majority of the more recent updates have been all about the merchandising and promos, and not at all about the movie itself. Not exactly a good sign, is it?  :schierke:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on December 02, 2011, 03:58:24 PM
Don't see anything wrong with promoting the movie. Apart from the Beherit or poster, there doesn't seem to be a merchandising push. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 02, 2011, 04:54:57 PM
It's interesting to note how majority of the more recent updates have been all about the merchandising and promos, and not at all about the movie itself. Not exactly a good sign, is it?  :schierke:
Not interesting at all, really. It's to be expected. The site is the direct marketing arm of the project. They probably feel they've released more than enough information about the first movie at this point, so it's time to push the release date hype.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on December 08, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
Although we've already known from the trailers that he's gonna be appearing in the movie, Vazuso and his seiyuu have just been announced as the most recent addition to the cast yet.

http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=299

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Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 08, 2011, 09:29:54 PM
Although we've already known from the trailers that he's gonna be appearing in the movie, Vazuso and his seiyuu have just been announced as the most recent addition to the cast yet.

http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=299

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The guy looks like he fits the part pretty well  :ganishka: But it's probably spelled Bazuso -- could be a phonetic pun on "Buzz Saw."
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on December 08, 2011, 09:52:07 PM
The guy looks like he fits the part pretty well  :ganishka: But it's probably spelled Bazuso -- could be a phonetic pun on "Buzz Saw."

Yeah, with his gruff and bombastic looks, he should naturally have a voice of similar quality to go along with it  :serpico:  
Though I wish they had posted an audio or video clip of him reading from that script in-character.

As for the name itself, I always assumed it to be of pseudo-Latin or Italian sort, like "Vazus", "Basusso" or "Vazuso." I've never thought of a buzz-saw pun, not the least because neither his axe weapon or even his armor have anything circular or serrated about them  :ganishka:

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 08, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
Gotta say though ... we get to see Bazuso's voice actor, but still no word on Gambino. This doesn't bode well.  :azan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on December 08, 2011, 11:03:36 PM
Gotta say though ... we get to see Bazuso's voice actor, but still no word on Gambino. This doesn't bode well.  :azan:

Nope. :puck:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on December 08, 2011, 11:08:02 PM
Seems like the Egg of Kings is starting from Guts vs Bazuso duel
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on December 08, 2011, 11:42:46 PM
Gotta say though ... we get to see Bazuso's voice actor, but still no word on Gambino. This doesn't bode well.  :azan:

Yeah, it now looks increasingly like that the movie is gonna skip over Guts' childhood altogether, and is instead  gonna open with the scene from page 86 in volume 4  :sad:
Though I'm still holding hope that this isn't gonna be the case. Besides Gambino there's also whole slew of other characters that help drive the plot in the Golden Age arc such as Foss, Shisu and Adonis, who haven't been announced either.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on December 09, 2011, 12:15:15 AM
Bazuso isn't rotund enough.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on December 09, 2011, 02:41:53 AM
Besides Gambino there's also whole slew of other characters that help drive the plot in the Golden Age arc such as Foss, Shisu and Adonis, who haven't been announced either.

If Gambino isn't going to be in the film, Shizu won't be, either. As for Foss, I wouldn't worry too much. He's integral to the section of the story these films seem to be focusing on, so he'll show up at some point or another. As for Adonis, we've seen an out-of-focus shot of him lying dead behind Guts' calloused hand in the latest trailer.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on December 09, 2011, 05:24:23 AM
well they might not put his childhood in the movie now, but maybe we'll see a glimpse of Gambino and the rest in the scene with Guts And Casca after the waterfall scene.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 09, 2011, 12:06:57 PM
As for the name itself, I always assumed it to be of pseudo-Latin or Italian sort, like "Vazus", "Basusso" or "Vazuso."

For now, putting your assumptions aside, it's "Bazûso", with the 'u' being a long vowel.

Bazuso isn't rotund enough.

Agreed.

well they might not put his childhood in the movie now, but maybe we'll see a glimpse of Gambino and the rest in the scene with Guts And Casca after the waterfall scene.

That would not be any consolation. Not featuring Guts' childhood like it is in the manga is akin to what the US distributor did to Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time in America when it first came out. It would be a travesty.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on December 17, 2011, 02:46:21 PM
Berserk Radio:

http://www.animate.tv/radio/details.php?id=berserk (http://www.animate.tv/radio/details.php?id=berserk)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on December 17, 2011, 03:31:41 PM
Berserk Radio:

http://www.animate.tv/play.php?id=8923&c=4&p=berserk&e=1&v=8923#player (http://www.animate.tv/play.php?id=8923&c=4&p=berserk&e=1&v=8923#player)

All I get is an empty page with no tpl:  :???:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on December 17, 2011, 03:55:27 PM
All I get is an empty page with no tpl:  :???:
Fixed.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on December 17, 2011, 04:02:59 PM
What is this radio thing? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on December 17, 2011, 04:37:51 PM
What is this radio thing? I'm confused.

It's an Internet radio promo campaign. I think they will be having the voice actors reading the lines from the script, "in-character", to give the fans a taste of how the characters they'll be playing in the film will sound like.    
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 17, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
It's an Internet radio promo campaign. I think they will be having the voice actors reading the lines from the script, "in-character", to give the fans a taste of how the characters they'll be playing in the film will sound like.    
Yeah, and it sounds pretty terrible so far. 7 minutes in...  :femto:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on December 17, 2011, 05:01:49 PM
Yeah, and it sounds pretty terrible so far. 7 minutes in...  :femto:

Hahaha!! Well, since they are doing those voices while at ease and at their own leisure, with no director breathing on the back of their heads and barking out orders at them to put more authenticity, feeling and emotion into their acting and otherwise lit a fire under their asses, it's no wonder why those voice actors sound so miserably (and hilariously) inadequate. What else did you expect, dude?  :ganishka:
Hopefully, that Toshiyuki Kubooka guy did put his seiyuu to serious work during the actual voice recording sessions for the film, and none of the characters in the film will be coming out sounding like this rubbish on the radio.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Jesus on December 18, 2011, 04:32:27 AM
I noticed the leaked berserk photos show casca with long hair and that brown outfit, I'm pretty sure that's the same look from the SEGA Dreamcast game after the eclipse, that makes me think they will make the other Arcs into anime aswell also one of the berserk trailers show the re-incarnated griffith on the hill of swords fighting the black swordsman am i the only one who noticed :???: i hope not.. can't wait for the anime trilogy :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on December 18, 2011, 07:14:35 AM
I noticed the leaked berserk photos show casca with long hair and that brown outfit, I'm pretty sure that's the same look from the SEGA Dreamcast game after the eclipse, also one of the berserk trailers show the re-incarnated griffith on the hill of swords fighting the black swordsman am i the only one who noticed :???: i hope not..
Those are all things we are all well aware of and have discussed already (you should at least skim through the thread before commenting).

that makes me think they will make the other Arcs into anime aswell can't wait for the anime trilogy :judo:
It has been confirmed that they intend to animate the entire series.

Also, Welcome to SkullKnight.net!  :SK:

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Jesus on December 19, 2011, 05:02:09 AM
Those are all things we are all well aware of and have discussed already (you should at least skim through the thread before commenting).
It has been confirmed that they intend to animate the entire series.

Also, Welcome to SkullKnight.net!  :SK:



sorry I'm a newbie and didn't read the posts except the Admin post :judo:
thanks for the welcome :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 20, 2011, 02:13:03 PM
Still no IMDb-site for the movie? Feels like I've been waiting for ages.
I'm confused. Why the anticipation? What's going to happen once an entry is made?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on December 23, 2011, 03:39:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8KM9y89OfY&feature=context&context=C3da0203ADOEgsToPDskIPtiSdkuLQNQG002HdN6IC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MwqJ5s3MdEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2FRIpn3Nqk&context=C3da0203ADOEgsToPDskIPtiSdkuLQNQG002HdN6IC

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 23, 2011, 03:43:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8KM9y89OfY&feature=context&context=C3da0203ADOEgsToPDskIPtiSdkuLQNQG002HdN6IC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MwqJ5s3MdEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2FRIpn3Nqk&context=C3da0203ADOEgsToPDskIPtiSdkuLQNQG002HdN6IC


Wow, this is the first footage that gives us a genuine impression on how it'll be directed and edited. Honestly it looks quite a bit better than I'd anticipated. I like the music already, too.

They use an interesting technique in the third link, around 0:40. They actively change the angle as if there's an actual camera there. The "camera" swoops up to a higher angle, instead of cutting. They're really hitting that cinematic note pretty hard. It was a little jarring to me, but I like it. Don't look at it too hard though, or you'll begin to see the flaws with using a three-dimensional technique like that with two-dimensional backdrops.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on December 23, 2011, 05:39:33 AM
I agree, I was impressed with the voice acting and enjoyed the animation, despite some awkward looking expressions every now and then (particularly from Guts in video no. 2). Overall, I'm pleased with what I see, aside from the fact that they moved Guts' and Casca's conversation to a completely different location, but we've known about that for a while.

I wish video no. 3 kept going so we could see whether or not their conversation continued as it does in the manga. :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on December 23, 2011, 09:09:35 AM
Casca show up for a split second in the guts video, although she doesn't seem to be wearing her armor like in the manga. Just an observation.

(http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af243/Truder7/Untitled-14.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on December 23, 2011, 12:08:55 PM
Yea sometimes facial expressions are fucking awkward and some movements too. I wish they were more like 1997s
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on December 23, 2011, 02:02:07 PM
There's a :troll: -face on that damn feather, grinning confidently as it tries to walk into scenes and situations it doesn't belong in whatsoever.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on December 23, 2011, 02:50:21 PM
http://www.berserkfilm.com/caststaff/cast.html
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: CCS on December 23, 2011, 03:45:14 PM
Awesome. From an animation perspective there's a bit I could criticize in those bits, but from a staging perspective it all looks great. Except for that abnormally large feather that's there for some reason. But I'm very excited.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on December 23, 2011, 04:02:34 PM
http://www.berserkfilm.com/caststaff/cast.html
Yeah but who's playing Gambino? Fuck.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on December 23, 2011, 04:25:45 PM
No Gumbino but hey I have to admit  Pippin+seyu and Corcus+seyu pics are looking funny and extremely fitting  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NinjaNuts on December 23, 2011, 09:19:44 PM
ugh, no gambino
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on December 24, 2011, 04:31:00 AM
Those faces...  :magni:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on December 24, 2011, 06:04:50 AM
 They might show Gambino later. You'd think they would him or his seiyuu before Guts,Griffith , and Casca?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 24, 2011, 08:32:51 AM
They might show Gambino later. You'd think they would him or his seiyuu before Guts,Griffith , and Casca?

He's not in the list, whereas Charlotte, Julius and even Gaston are. That's what people are commenting about.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on December 24, 2011, 02:34:54 PM
Maybe Gambino will just get an average obscure seiyuu or someone from set? Like how they don't list of course who does the screams casual talk of unnamed Hawk members. Just a guess...if its the case, then it's not assuring but I would trust any of their decisions from what I see so far.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 25, 2011, 02:37:36 AM
Maybe Gambino will just get an average obscure seiyuu or someone from set? Like how they don't list of course who does the screams casual talk of unnamed Hawk members. Just a guess...if its the case, then it's not assuring but I would trust any of their decisions from what I see so far.
That still begs the question why someone like Gaston gets a picture and description, but not Gambino.



Found this "Behind the Scenes" information through a japanese forum: http://cgworld.jp/feature/making/berserk01.html

Shows off a few new shots that I don't think we've seen yet.

(http://skullknight.net/images/guts-anime3.jpg)

In my opinion, the marketing guys really should have put their best foot forward, and shown off these high quality images as the FIRST things we saw of this project. Instead what we got were shitty, low resolution images.

There's a bunch of interesting stuff about the production here. Not all of which is flattering:

(http://skullknight.net/images/gutscg1.jpg)

What really caught my eye though was this shot from inside the modeling program, that shows an array of other character models, including an apostle from just before the Eclipse (named a "freak"), and Griffith, just before the Beherit activates.

(http://skullknight.net/images/anime-cg1.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on December 25, 2011, 03:50:34 AM
I found this:

http://iei.jp/4677/?berserkfilm (http://iei.jp/4677/?berserkfilm)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: daiceman9 on December 25, 2011, 04:42:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8KM9y89OfY&feature=context&context=C3da0203ADOEgsToPDskIPtiSdkuLQNQG002HdN6IC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MwqJ5s3MdEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2FRIpn3Nqk&context=C3da0203ADOEgsToPDskIPtiSdkuLQNQG002HdN6IC


I really hope they touch up 0:26-0:37 in the first video.  There's nothing more jarring then super blurry followed by super clear.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 25, 2011, 04:47:37 AM
I really hope they touch up 0:26-0:37 in the first video.  There's nothing more jarring then super blurry followed by super clear.
I wouldn't assume anything we're seeing at this point is a final cut.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on December 26, 2011, 04:10:46 AM
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/channel/berserk
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 26, 2011, 05:49:35 AM
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/channel/berserk
More radio shit... great  :schierke:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on December 26, 2011, 01:34:59 PM
Man, this radio thing... What are these goofballs yammering about?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 27, 2011, 01:14:38 PM
"Even if the movie sucks, we'll always have the manga."

...Or will we?

Coming to you soon, the new and improved Berserk! Now with less Black Swordsman/childhood! :iva:

Six "MyBestRemix" volumes will be released in quick succession, starting on January 24 for the first two and ending on February 21 for the sixth one. They'll cost 650円 each and the first three of them will be bundled with a voucher for the movie.

http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=327 (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=327)
http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/yar/index.html (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/yar/index.html)

(http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/yar/img/mbr_vol1.jpg) (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/yar/img/mbr_vol2.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Miracles on December 27, 2011, 01:28:07 PM
For a minute there, I was pretty worried. Even though it's a little lame, it looks to be just a pair of special edition volumes to coincide with the film...

Whether they will stay that way though, I couldn't predict.  :sad:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on December 27, 2011, 02:26:50 PM
(http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/yar/img/mbr_vol1.jpg) (http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/yar/img/mbr_vol2.jpg)
On the cover - Miura's drawing for Guts versus the movie Guts ... for all to see :carcus:.

Anyone going to pick up these special volumes?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on December 27, 2011, 02:47:16 PM
You know... I'm gonna buy those...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on December 27, 2011, 02:54:12 PM
*sigh* ... me too ... fortunately or unfortunately.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2011, 03:58:31 PM
You know what I really like to see on the cover of my manga re-releases? Tons of text and advertisements.  :azan:

Also note that the top corner now calls Berserk the "NO. 1 DARK FANTASY" instead of just the "number one fantasy comic," like they always have in the past.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on December 27, 2011, 04:12:56 PM
those new covers are for the Young Animal magazine? or something completely else?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 27, 2011, 04:28:56 PM
those new covers are for the Young Animal magazine? or something completely else?

They're the covers of the first two MBR volumes released specifically for the movie. See my original post about it:

Six "MyBestRemix" volumes will be released in quick succession, starting on January 24 for the first two and ending on February 21 for the sixth one.

Those volumes will be slightly bigger than the standard ones (A5 format instead of B6), but of lower quality and will be sold like magazines (so they won't be available in libraries like the standard volumes are). Basically the same deal than for the 12 MBR that were released a few years ago to recap volumes 1 to 26.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on December 27, 2011, 04:34:42 PM
Coming to you soon, the new and improved Berserk! Now with less Black Swordsman/childhood! :iva:
I feel bad... I can't exactly describe it, but it's bad...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Turkitage on December 27, 2011, 04:57:09 PM
I feel bad... I can't exactly describe it, but it's bad...

Don't remind us. :judo:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on December 27, 2011, 05:07:46 PM
They're the covers of the first two MBR volumes released specifically for the movie. See my original post about it:

Those volumes will be slightly bigger than the standard ones (A5 format instead of B6), but of lower quality and will be sold like magazines (so they won't be available in libraries like the standard volumes are). Basically the same deal than for the 12 MBR that were released a few years ago to recap volumes 1 to 26.

Ok, I didn't know what MBR were.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Edi on December 27, 2011, 05:59:05 PM
My Best Remix and Young Animal Remix...
What is the difference? Is there any?

Edit:
Basically the same deal than for the 12 MBR that were released a few years ago to recap volumes 1 to 26.
OK, now I understand.  :ganishka:

but of lower quality
Is there any comparison?


*****

http://akiba-souken.com/special/2011/berserk/index.html
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 28, 2011, 10:01:13 AM
My Best Remix and Young Animal Remix...
What is the difference? Is there any?

I don't think so; I guess they just renamed MBR to YAR.

Is there any comparison?

Sorry, don't count on me to take side-by-side pictures. MBRs are closer to Young Animal issues as far as paper quality goes and they don't have dust jackets. Overall if you treat them with care they age well though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Jesus on December 28, 2011, 10:53:16 AM
http://www.berserkfilm.com/caststaff/cast.html

All the Japanese seiyus are so beautiful specially Haruka Tomatsu wish i had a Japanese girlfriend it would be the best thing ever  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 28, 2011, 02:14:09 PM
All the Japanese seiyus are so beautiful specially Haruka Tomatsu wish i had a Japanese girlfriend it would be the best thing ever  :ubik:

...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 28, 2011, 02:24:52 PM
All the Japanese seiyus are so beautiful specially Haruka Tomatsu wish i had a Japanese girlfriend it would be the best thing ever  :ubik:
...... ...!  :magni:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: KuraiDragoon on December 28, 2011, 05:21:03 PM
Well I have to say, they are a very good-looking cast for the most part. I'm surprised at how many of them even look like good matches for their characters.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on December 28, 2011, 11:17:50 PM
All the Japanese seiyus are so beautiful specially Haruka Tomatsu wish i had a Japanese girlfriend it would be the best thing ever  :ubik:
Welp. We still haven't heard anything about an international release yet. I'm really hoping there isn't too long a delay between the Japanese release and when we get it here. Hopefully the JP Blu-Ray isn't too expensive.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on December 28, 2011, 11:34:14 PM
Welp. We still haven't heard anything about an international release yet. I'm really hoping there isn't too long a delay between the Japanese release and when we get it here. Hopefully the JP Blu-Ray isn't too expensive.
We've heard enough that it's nearly a foregone conclusion that it's coming to countries outside of Japan. What we're missing is a release date.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: thedigitalsin on December 29, 2011, 12:14:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5VzprMuS7I

I went ahead and translated the animated clips from the interviews posted earlier. 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on December 29, 2011, 12:41:13 AM
All the Japanese seiyus are so beautiful specially Haruka Tomatsu wish i had a Japanese girlfriend it would be the best thing ever  :ubik:

I sense an asian fetish  :slan: not that I don't agree with you or anything haha.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on December 29, 2011, 01:08:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5VzprMuS7I

I went ahead and translated the animated clips from the interviews posted earlier. 
Thank you! :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Jesus on December 29, 2011, 06:59:05 AM
Welp. We still haven't heard anything about an international release yet. I'm really hoping there isn't too long a delay between the Japanese release and when we get it here. Hopefully the JP Blu-Ray isn't too expensive.

i'm not gonna wait for a US release even if the movie doesn't have subtitles i'll watch it online because i love berserk

I sense an asian fetish  :slan: not that I don't agree with you or anything haha.

you're wrong i don't have an asian fetish for a few reasons i can't tell you here ./////////.
i'm just saying having a foreign girlfriend would be fun and interesting :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on December 29, 2011, 08:42:12 AM
i'm not gonna wait for a US release even if the movie doesn't have subtitles i'll watch it online because i love berserk
I hope you also intend to support the movies whenever they comes overseas. :femto:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 29, 2011, 09:57:47 AM
i'm not gonna wait for a US release even if the movie doesn't have subtitles i'll watch it online because i love berserk

If you really love Berserk you'll buy the Japanese Blu-Ray, like Gobolatula said.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: perros on December 29, 2011, 03:15:11 PM
To what extent is Miura's involvement in Saga project?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on December 29, 2011, 10:16:54 PM
To what extent is Miura's involvement in Saga project?

I'm not the best one to answer as I'm sure some members know more, but from what I know or believe, Kentaro Miura is checking in to make sure the project is going well which would make sense for slower volume releases. I might be wrong but that's the only info I heard.

i'm not gonna wait for a US release even if the movie doesn't have subtitles i'll watch it online because i love berserk

you're wrong i don't have an asian fetish for a few reasons i can't tell you here ./////////.
i'm just saying having a foreign girlfriend would be fun and interesting :serpico:

lol yeah, just a joke, yeah I do agree, it would be interesting though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Dembol on December 31, 2011, 01:17:25 PM
Is there any comparison?
I can offer a size comparison photo I posted a while ago on twitter for a friend:
http://twitpic.com/6qzw1u - Young Animal, MBR and regular release on top of each other. It may seem that they're not lined up properly, but it's only because of the angle.

As for the print/paper quality etc. it's pretty much similar. Only the cover quality really sucks in comparison.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: perros on December 31, 2011, 02:54:31 PM
I'm not the best one to answer as I'm sure some members know more, but from what I know or believe, Kentarou Miura is checking in to make sure the project is going well which would make sense for slower volume releases. I might be wrong but that's the only info I heard.

I see. Is he still working with Studio Gaga?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on December 31, 2011, 03:05:01 PM
I'm not the best one to answer as I'm sure some members know more, but from what I know or believe, Kentarou Miura is checking in to make sure the project is going well which would make sense for slower volume releases. I might be wrong but that's the only info I heard.

We don't really know to what extent he is involved beyond the fact he actually is involved.

I see. Is he still working with Studio Gaga?

Studio Gaga is just a fancy name for his assistants, so yes he still is.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 02, 2012, 07:55:17 PM
All the Japanese seiyus are so beautiful specially Haruka Tomatsu wish i had a Japanese girlfriend it would be the best thing ever  :ubik:
I also agree they look good.  :farnese: But my first reaction when I saw them was that Guts' seiyuu really looks like Bruno Mars. I can see him start singing "Just the way you are" to Casca at the waterfall...  :ganishka: But having a japanese boyfriend like one of them is just a dream... little asian fetish here, lol
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Jesus on January 03, 2012, 05:40:21 AM
I hope you also intend to support the movies whenever they comes overseas. :femto:

sigh i haven't been at the movie theather since 2003 but i could try and go to see berserk if they keep the original japanese dubs

If you really love Berserk you'll buy the Japanese Blu-Ray, like Gobolatula said.

um i don't have a blu-ray player it's too expensive if they release the DVD of course i will buy it but i want to wait till the three parts get released to buy them together as a trilogy

I also agree they look good.  :farnese: But my first reaction when I saw them was that Guts' seiyuu really looks like Bruno Mars. I can see him start singing "Just the way you are" to Casca at the waterfall...  :ganishka: But having a japanese boyfriend like one of them is just a dream... little asian fetish here, lol

lol i didn't know there was girls in this forum that's cool :ubik:
i don't like casca's seiyu much she seems tomboyish  :judo: the rest are alright  :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: daiceman9 on January 03, 2012, 06:08:24 AM
i don't like casca's seiyu much she seems tomboyish  :judo:

What, a female commander of a band of mercenaries tomboyish? Say it ain't so.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 03, 2012, 07:46:59 AM
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9272/gatss.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 03, 2012, 02:20:41 PM
lol i didn't know there was girls in this forum that's cool :ubik:
don't like casca's seiyu much she seems tomboyish  :judo: the rest are alright  :serpico:
I feel so unique now  :judo: But I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one here... Berserk is awesome, and everyone has to acknowledge it, regardless gender  :ganishka:
And I really like Casca's voice, she is a tomboy at that time, isn't she? But I was a bit worried about how will her seiyuu handle insane Casca with this voice to make those stupid "aaauuuuh gyabooo"-s, but in the interview she sounded higher.
Also it's really funny how most of the VAs look really like the characters... Did they make their hair and asked them pose only for these shots to make fans happy? If they did, it was a stupid idea, because only thing we need is GAMBINO.
But I think there's still hope for him, not showing him in the cast somehow seems logical (actually I don't know why but I feel like this  :farnese:)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on January 03, 2012, 07:56:13 PM
We don't really know to what extent he is involved beyond the fact he actually is involved.

Yeah, while Miura's role in the new anime is still unclear, the various "creative" changes and deviations from the original manga might provide us a clue that his involvement is probably not exactly a closely engaged one. Whether it's the oft-repeating little inaccuracies (the wrong uniforms, clothing, weapons and logos and erroneous character designs), to the more blatant and cavalier changes to the story that radically alter our perception of it (Guts' traumatic childhood getting excised altogether), it all seems to point to Miura having handed the reigns over to Studio 4°C and letting them adapt his manga however they see fit.  

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 04, 2012, 04:44:48 AM
I'm fine with little changes. They've been in a great deal of things I've read and watched. Most times they don't drastically affect anything. The changes to the Band of the Hawk insignia doesn't bother me. Two more feathers, four more feathers. It'd be fine for the studio to sign their name onto Berserk in this way, showing that they had been there. I'm even willing to overlook the feather, and the chicken footprint insignia on the brooches (?) even though that's a much larger stretch than the first two. Changing how Guts assassinated Julius, however, I can't seem to turn a blind eye to. Aaz said it, Guts is strongly bonded to "his" sword. I agree with that very strongly. Just like I do his friction early on with Casca. That is a huge mistake they're making I feel.

He's also not a ninja. If anyone is ninja, it's the Kushans, and Guts eviscerates Kushans.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 04, 2012, 05:08:54 AM
The changes to the Band of the Hawk insignia doesn't bother me. Two more feathers, four more feathers.
If you'd read further posts, you'd know that there is no standard number of feathers, even in the manga.  (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12735.msg203730;topicseen#msg203730)There was just one dude (who has since departed these forums) that was creating a fuss over it. Now... that chicken-foot insignia is indeed a wholly other matter.

Really though, I think everyone can agree that the apparent slashing of Guts' childhood from the first movie is by far the biggest casualty in this adaptation. As has been said time after time, it could still sneak into the movie, and just be absent from all the promotional materials. But at this point I don't see that as likely.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 04, 2012, 03:32:38 PM
Now... that chicken-foot insignia is indeed a wholly other matter.
You mean that little thing with a red background and a yellow "chicken-foot", which has a feather attached to it on Guts? (I'm still not sure what exactly do you call "chicken-foot insignia"...) If it's that, then I think it... tries to be the hawk logo, but it was lamely drawn without the details...
As has been said time after time, it could still sneak into the movie, and just be absent from all the promotional materials. But at this point I don't see that as likely.
Noooo  :judo: It must be like that, it makes sense (I still don't know why, but it feels like this for me)... Ok, I'm just hopelessly hoping, lol...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 04, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Really though, I think everyone can agree that the apparent slashing of Guts' childhood from the first movie is by far the biggest casualty in this adaptation.

I'm still going with cutting the entire first arc that established the template for the rest of the series. :iva:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NinjaNuts on January 04, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
i just don't understand how this is supposed to be faithful when its already skipping an arc to get to the golden age. at least the original anime had the first episode be set in the black swordsman arc
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Miracles on January 04, 2012, 06:51:16 PM
Quote from: Gillia
Noooo  :judo: It must be like that, it makes sense (I still don't know why, but it feels like this for me)... Ok, I'm just hopelessly hoping, lol...

(http://www.imgplace.com/img14/7702/55berserkwanttobelieve.th.png) (http://www.imgplace.com/viewimg14/7702/55berserkwanttobelieve.png)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Edi on January 06, 2012, 08:41:04 AM
http://octoba.net/archives/20120106-android-news-2.html
http://galapagosstore.com/web/book/detail/sstb-B521-1521000-hs000354

http://www.berserkfilm.com/chara/
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 06, 2012, 09:40:54 AM
So, according to that chart: Silat's existence confirmed; Gambino's non-existence confirmed as well.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 06, 2012, 11:19:53 AM
Yea thats right no Gambino there. Overall chart and characters looks good.
But how can Miura be agreed with that ? I mean, cutting Guts childhood. I am not telling about Black Swordsman arc anyway.  This is his manga, after all. Masterpiece manga
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 06, 2012, 12:15:32 PM
But how can Miura be agreed with that ? I mean, cutting Guts childhood. I am not telling about Black Swordsman arc anyway.  This is his manga, after all. Masterpiece manga

It's probably not his call. Besides, Miura's humble by nature and I doubt he would try to have his way against the studio. I'm sure he rather just advised them and let them do as they saw fit.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 06, 2012, 12:24:43 PM
I feel like I've just had the "A NEW CHALLENGER APPROACHES" screen dropped on me. I'll have to keep checking the berserk characters page every morning like I used to do for the Smash Bros Brawl site to see what new characters are confirmed..
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Shadow8 on January 06, 2012, 01:26:08 PM
Not just Gambino, Godo is no there too.

This is just impossible to not see Gambino in the movie. I can not imagine seeing that and Miura can't lets something like that
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: RaffoBaffo on January 06, 2012, 02:42:39 PM
Not just Gambino, Godo is no there too.
The little girl on the right is Erika.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Shadow8 on January 06, 2012, 02:45:19 PM
The little girl on the right is Erika.

Yeah I know, but it is just impossible for not see Gambino.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 06, 2012, 02:47:45 PM
Not just Gambino, Godo is no there too.

This is just impossible to not see Gambino in the movie. I can not imagine seeing that and Miura can't lets something like that
It mentions Godot in Erica's entry. Just weird that it doesn't show him. I don't want to put too much weight on this chart though. Raban but no Owen? Those two come as a set.

What's more interesting to me is that they're already spilling the beans on the connection between Griffith and Femto/Godhand. I presumed that since they cut the Black Swordsman stuff out, they'd save that information for a reveal in the third movie. But maybe that's just the kind of 20 year old "secret" that's difficult to keep.

It's sad that this project attempted to do justice to Berserk, and is keeping Skull Knight in, but in that process, loses Guts' father figure.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Shadow8 on January 06, 2012, 03:06:06 PM
It mentions Godot in Erica's entry. Just weird that it doesn't show him. I don't want to put too much weight on this chart though. Raban but no Owen? Those two come as a set.

What's more interesting to me is that they're already spilling the beans on the connection between Griffith and Femto/Godhand. I presumed that since they cut the Black Swordsman stuff out, they'd save that information for a reveal in the third movie. But maybe that's just the kind of 20 year old "secret" that's difficult to keep.

It's sad that this project attempted to do justice to Berserk, and is keeping Skull Knight in, but in that process, loses Guts' father figure.
Finally, it's still weird not see  Gambino(And it's an important detail to the scenario).

But the relationship between God of hand and Griffith , as you say, the manga is really well known and it's not a secret  for this information
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 06, 2012, 03:34:41 PM
Wheres Wyald? I mean Waldo?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 06, 2012, 03:36:43 PM
Wheres Wyald? I mean Waldo?
I'm not convinced that chart is a comprehensive look at all the characters. It might just be hitting the high notes. Though I admit, Erica and Silat's inclusion on the list strikes me as strange if that's the case...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 06, 2012, 05:27:38 PM
Can we create a viral internet meme entitled "Wheres Wyald?" Maybe the studio will catch wind of it?

(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u79/frankencowx/whereswyald.jpg)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 06, 2012, 05:48:14 PM
So, according to that chart: Silat's existence confirmed;
Aaaaaaaaaah *no emoticon can describe this feeling*
This is the best time to be a forever alone fangirl. Funny thing that I had a dream last night about him appearing on the big screen, damn, I'm a f*ckin' medium!!!
:ganishka:


But I agree, showing him and some of the others is strange (but since they made my day, I forgive them...)
*unnecessary childish happiness ends*
Damn, this doesn't make sense... But I think there's still chance for Gambino... Owen, Godot, and Foss aren't listed, but it'd be impossible to cut them out since they play major roles... (but if they did, they'd f*ck up the movie so much we'd attack the studio, right? lol)

Can we create a viral internet meme entitled "Wheres Wyald?" Maybe the studio will catch wind of it?
Ok, this was so funny I guess I can state now that this is one of the best days of my life  :ganishka: I love you so much, SK.net
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 06, 2012, 05:58:36 PM
Can we create a viral internet meme entitled "Wheres Wyald?" Maybe the studio will catch wind of it?
I don't think you can actively "create" a meme. At least, I don't have that button in Photoshop. But I'm working with an older version.

However, your play on words works better than you might know. Wyald's name when written out in katakana and sounded out is: WYA-RU-DO. Sorta like WA-L-DO.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 06, 2012, 06:14:38 PM
I don't think you can actively "create" a meme. At least, I don't have that button in Photoshop. But I'm working with an older version.

Well if everytime one is denied something one wants, that person should ask wheres wyald? It won't take long before it becomes an unrelenting force.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 06, 2012, 07:07:06 PM
Well if everytime one is denied something one wants, that person should ask wheres wyald? It won't take long before it becomes an unrelenting force.

Are you serious?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 06, 2012, 07:26:01 PM
No, but I still support at least some form of Wyald representation over the course of the trilogy.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 06, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
Cool chart!  Character designs look good!  It's great to see Silat, for sure!  However, this Gambino issue is plaguing me!  Has anyone asked Clara or the FB page about it?  Anyhow, I just did cuz I'm tired of wondering... so I tweeted her and also on Facebook.  I doubt I will get a response, but who knows?

(Perhaps someone that is part of the contest should tweet Clara the question as well...)

PS Comment on the FB wall post!  Maybe the more comments / likes it get the more inclined they will feel to answer: https://www.facebook.com/pages/映画ベルセルク/197046067013453
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on January 06, 2012, 11:16:23 PM
PS Comment on the FB wall post!  Maybe the more comments / likes it get the more inclined they will feel to answer: https://www.facebook.com/pages/映画ベルセルク/197046067013453
Sweet, done :guts:

Fearing reprimand, I'd like to ask if there is an English version of the same chart on the site?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on January 07, 2012, 07:05:29 AM
MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, Gambino appears in some flashbacks similar to how it was handled in the 90's series but instead of him talking, Guts would just talk over it? Like he would think back to his childhood, then talk over scenes from his childhood, and there we could see Gambino but he would have no voice actor...Same with Donovan, I know the character himself is not listed but just thought it could be a possibility...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on January 07, 2012, 08:13:20 AM
PS Comment on the FB wall post!  Maybe the more comments / likes it get the more inclined they will feel to answer: https://www.facebook.com/pages/映画ベルセルク/197046067013453
I am going to post on their wall as well.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 07, 2012, 08:21:03 AM
MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, Gambino appears in some flashbacks similar to how it was handled in the 90's series but instead of him talking, Guts would just talk over it? Like he would think back to his childhood, then talk over scenes from his childhood, and there we could see Gambino but he would have no voice actor...Same with Donovan, I know the character himself is not listed but just thought it could be a possibility...

What difference would that make though? Them appearing in some perfunctory fashion as a technicality isn't the point.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 07, 2012, 11:15:59 AM
I think Gambino's appearance in the movie is still possible, and we cannot state that the opposite is confirmed... We still didn't see Owen, Foss etc. but I just cannot imagine how they'd alter the storyline if they left them out...
Eg. it's true that we saw pictures of Casca's and Griffith's childhood on the top of the site, and nothing about Guts', but I think it's only because there's no suitable scene in that part which'd make a nice picture like those.
Also, the character page... It seems like to me that they're showing infos about the more popular characters to make fans excited (which worked well in case of me, since I'm still ridiculously happy about Silat :ganishka: ) I doubt that there are any Gambino fans on this planet... I know that he's very important for serious fans like most of us here on this forum, but I suggest that most of the japanese audience is not like this.

By the way, can I ask if someone could translate the character infos, please?  :farnese: That'd help a lot...
I started to learn japanese only because of the movie, but I only know a few hiraganas yet which is not enough  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 07, 2012, 12:44:49 PM
Eg. it's true that we saw pictures of Casca's and Griffith's childhood on the top of the site, and nothing about Guts', but I think it's only because there's no suitable scene in that part which'd make a nice picture like those.

You think wrong.

Also, the character page... It seems like to me that they're showing infos about the more popular characters to make fans excited (which worked well in case of me, since I'm still ridiculously happy about Silat :ganishka: ) I doubt that there are any Gambino fans on this planet...

You don't know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 07, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
When I saw that "Last post by Aazealh on Today", I already knew that I must prepare for it...  :ganishka:
You think wrong.
Explain, why, please.
You don't know what you're talking about.
I do. But I may be wrong because I'm a human, and humans make mistakes, sorry. I'm just trying to save poor Gambino  :ganishka:
Also I lack some information since I have no idea what the japanese texts are about... I recognised some "n" katakanas, but it doesn't help me...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 07, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
Explain, why, please.

Why? Because there are plenty of scenes fit for a "nice picture" during Guts' childhood, far more than there are during Casca and Griffith's childhoods as a matter of fact. It's really quite obvious and saying otherwise feels like you didn't even think for a second about it.

I do. But I may be wrong because I'm a human, and humans make mistakes, sorry. I'm just trying to save poor Gambino  :ganishka:
Also I lack some information since I have no idea what the japanese texts are about... I recognised some "n" katakanas, but it doesn't help me...

No you don't, and that's not just because you can't read Japanese. You're talking out of your ass. "They're showing infos about the more popular characters"? What? No, they're not. They're showing characters who either will be featured in the movie or will be in the next one(s), classifying them by factions. It's not an exhaustive list, but it's got little to do with popularity. Some unnamed Tudor captain who gets killed within 10 pages of his introduction is not a popular character, yet he's listed there alongside Boscone, Gennon and Adon. And I could tell you why Gambino's easily as popular if not more than other characters in there, but the point here is that your "popularity" angle is completely groundless in the first place. Nor do you have any idea what the Japanese fans like or want.

Lastly, I don't see how dissing the character is "trying to save him".
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 07, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Why? Because there are plenty of scenes fit for a "nice picture" during Guts' childhood, far more than there are during Casca and Griffith's childhoods as a matter of fact.
Show me one, because actually I was thinking about it for a while, and I couldn't come up with anything that looks cool, but also simple and misterious at the same time, like the other pictures.
You're talking out of your ass.
I didn't know that this expression exists in English, but it sounds waay funnier in my language :ganishka:
They're showing characters who either will be featured in the movie or will be in the next one(s), classifying them by factions.
Is it stated that these are all of the characters of the movie, and those who aren't mentioned there won't be featured in it at all? If not, I think we still have some chance for Gambino...
Some unnamed Tudor captain who gets killed within 10 pages of his introduction is not a popular character, yet he's listed there alongside Boscone, Gennon and Adon.
According to the commercials, the Doldrey battle will be the movie's main part, right? This makes the Tudor enemies the main enemies of this movie. I think they even can get replaced on this chart when the next movie arrives.

By the way, I think I see some logic in the decision of which characters should be featured on the chart, but I agree that there are also very weird and worrying things that I simply don't understand...
Like, is Foss mentioned anywhere?
Nor do you have any idea what the Japanese fans like or want.
How do you know? :carcus: Actually, I only have a very little idea about it :ganishka: Only thing I know that they're surrounded with awesome mangas, so I don't think that most of them would spend as much time with Berserk as we do, for most of them it's just one of the usual animes...
Lastly, I don't see how dissing the character is "trying to save him".
When did I say anything wrong about him?  :judo:

Other thing I cannot imagine is that how the movie will start? If there's no Blackswordsman part, then OK, they're going chronologically from Guts' birth... But if no childhood, then...?

I'm really looking for the movie now to see how this'll end up...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 07, 2012, 03:31:09 PM
Show me one, because actually I was thinking about it for a while, and I couldn't come up with anything that looks cool, but also simple and misterious at the same time, like the other pictures.

(http://skullknight.net/images/guts-childhood3.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/guts-childhood1.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/guts-childhood2.jpg)
 (http://skullknight.net/images/guts-childhood4.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/guts-childhood5.jpg)

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According to the commercials, the Doldrey battle will be the movie's main part, right? This makes the Tudor enemies the main enemies of this movie. I think they even can get replaced on this chart when the next movie arrives.
What makes you think this chart will exist by the next movie?

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Like, is Foss mentioned anywhere?How do you know?
Wait, you're more concerned about Foss than Gambino?

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Only thing I know that they're surrounded with awesome mangas, so I don't think that most of them would spend as much time with Berserk as we do, for most of them it's just one of the usual animes..
Berserk is regularly the best selling manga in the months that it's released. It's not "just one of the usual animes."
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 07, 2012, 03:36:51 PM
Show me one, because actually I was thinking about it for a while, and I couldn't come up with anything that looks cool, but also simple and misterious at the same time, like the other pictures.

Read the manga?

Is it stated that these are all of the characters of the movie, and those who aren't mentioned there won't be featured in it at all? If not, I think we still have some chance for Gambino...

It's pretty clearly not exhaustive, like I told you. But that's not a reason to be hopeful.

According to the commercials, the Doldrey battle will be the movie's main part, right? This makes the Tudor enemies the main enemies of this movie. I think they even can get replaced on this chart when the next movie arrives.

Jeez, haven't you been reading the thread? No way in hell will the Doldrey battle be featured in the first movie. You see? You really don't know what you're talking about. No hard feelings.

How do you know? :carcus: Actually, I only have a very little idea about it :ganishka: Only thing I know that they're surrounded with awesome mangas, so I don't think that most of them would spend as much time with Berserk as we do, for most of them it's just one of the usual animes...

Why am I even wasting my time with you... :schierke:

If there's no Blackswordsman part, then OK, they're going chronologically from Guts' birth... But if no childhood, then...?

This has already been covered. Just read the thread.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on January 07, 2012, 03:53:30 PM
Only thing I know that they're surrounded with awesome mangas, so I don't think that most of them would spend as much time with Berserk as we do, for most of them it's just one of the usual animes...
It was already mentioned by Walter , but check these threads out.
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12043.0
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=545.0
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 07, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
Wait, you're more concerned about Foss than Gambino?
No, I just said another example.
Jeez, haven't you been reading the thread? No way in hell will the Doldrey battle be featured in the first movie. You see? You really don't know what you're talking about. No hard feelings.
...
This has already been covered. Just read the thread.
F*ck my memory, worse than a goldfish's... I'm gonna reread the thread, also the manga, I think it's time...  :farnese:
And about Gambino... I think, I was in the "refuse" status, but now I went to "acceptance"...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 10, 2012, 06:08:10 AM
Clara posted this image just now: http://t.co/ulFxqQ4q

It looks like a promotional brochure showing the basic overview of all three movies. Of note is which scenes are included in each movie:

(http://skullknight.net/images/beserk-moviebreakdown.jpg)

It gives us an indication of generally how it'll be broken down. Most interesting to me is what it implies about the third movie. If the second movie truly ends with the duel in the snow, then movie 3 is going to be a real cluster fuck...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 10, 2012, 11:47:57 AM
too bad the pic is low quality.  Yeah Walter you're right so the 3rd movie starts after duel with Griffith's rescue then Bakiraka then Wyald (if no cut?) then Eclipse.. Helluva action movie  :carcus:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: kaimera on January 10, 2012, 12:55:49 PM
That brochure reminds me of that thing one voice actress posted on her blog:
http://ameblo.jp/abitostretto-e-mazzolino/image-11106386706-11668718280.html
http://ameblo.jp/abitostretto-e-mazzolino/image-11106386706-11668718285.html

even though it doesn't look too alike.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 10, 2012, 01:23:03 PM
so the 3rd movie starts after duel with Griffith's rescue then Bakiraka then Wyald (if no cut?) then Eclipse.. Helluva action movie  :carcus:

No, it would start with Guts meeting the Skull Knight, Griffith taking Charlotte's virginity, getting arrested (and later on tortured), the Band of the Falcon being decimated. Then cut to a year later, Guts encountering Silat and thwarting his attack on the weakened Band of the Falcon (meanwhile, Griffith's loss of sanity while imprisoned), revealing his feelings to Casca and vice versa, and THEN, rescuing Griffith. So indeed, it would be packed with content compared to the first two movies. That is, unless they remove some of it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 10, 2012, 02:52:31 PM
I see! So something will get cut for sure
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Julalien on January 10, 2012, 03:42:16 PM
At least 'Descent' will have that 110 minute runtime. I'm sure that will be enough time to cover everything....ha.

Also, the CD single for Susumu Hirasawa's 'Aria' will be up for sale on February 4th to coincide with the release of the film. I would imagine it will be available for purchase off of his Teslakite online shop but a link for the single has not been added yet. This will also be Hiraswa's first single release since 'Berserk ~Forces~' was released in 1997. No word yet on a release of Shiro Sagisu's soundtrack for the film but I imagine we'll be hearing about that soon.

Again, the music is probably what I am looking forward to most in the new films.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on January 10, 2012, 03:54:07 PM
Any news on the song from AI? (i thought the englisch translation was beautifull kimono?????) Or will that also be released alongside Susumu Hirasawa's song? :P
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 10, 2012, 05:02:45 PM
I may be wrong since I'm just going with Google Translate, but it seems that they showed a pre-screening of the movie to some folks in Japan?  There have been a lot of tweets at Clara telling their thoughts.  From what I can tell, they all seem very favorable, but I cannot be sure...  Anyone care to enlighten us?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 10, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Yeah I think I read about it a while back. Haven't really followed this in a while though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 10, 2012, 10:10:27 PM
Clara is persistent in dodging my usually daily Gambino inquiries.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 10, 2012, 10:51:18 PM
I may be wrong since I'm just going with Google Translate, but it seems that they showed a pre-screening of the movie to some folks in Japan?  There have been a lot of tweets at Clara telling their thoughts.  From what I can tell, they all seem very favorable, but I cannot be sure...  Anyone care to enlighten us?

We can be sure she wouldn't share comments like, "This cheap bastardization is a steaming pile of shit!" So, yeah, probably all positive. =)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 10, 2012, 11:31:45 PM
We can be sure she wouldn't share comments like, "This cheap bastardization is a steaming pile of shit!" So, yeah, probably all positive. =)

LOLOL!  Well, I don't think Clara can monitor / censor what other people tweet.  But, anyhow, I've been looking at the #berserkfilm tweets too and those are totally fair game.  Here are some of them:

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kariganeW ぱんだ。:シルクウール100%(´A`)
試写会見てきたよ!最前列ど真ん中v80分くらいだけどあっちゅーま。続き続きーーっ!ってなった。最初の入り方とか合戦は鳥肌でた。原作ファン納得のできかと。今度は劇場の後方からゆっくり見たいな bit.ly/qQahSK #berserkfilm

kariganeW Panda. Silk Wool 100% ('A `)
I've seen preview! But Yu's over there or over the middle quartile v80 front. Tsu continued over more over! What was. I first went into battle Toka goose bumps. Fans can be convincing and original. Now slowly from the back of the theater like bit.ly / Qqahsk # Berserkfilm

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nagaotoshiyasu 永尾 寿 
日本最速試写会『ベルセルク黄金時代篇I 覇王の卵』を鑑賞しましたが、もちろん劇場へも足をはこびます。三部作との事で、変に編集することなく映画ならではの臨場感があります。4°C ですね!! #berserkfilm bit.ly/qQahSK #berserkfilm

nagaotoshiyasu Nagao, Hisashi 
Fastest Japanese sneak preview "golden age hen eggs I Overlord Berserk" I appreciate, of course, the theater also carries the leg. In the trilogy and it has a unique presence in the film changes without editing. It is 4 ° C! ! # Berserkfilm bit.ly / Qqahsk # Berserkfilm

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odaoda1966 オダオダ
劇場版ベルセルク日本最速試写会に参戦しました。テンポの良いストーリー展開と圧巻の戦闘シーンで80分があっという間でした。残念だったのは最後のエンドクレジットで自分のツイッターIDを発見できなかった事です。(笑) bit.ly/qQahSK #berserkfilm

odaoda1966 Odaoda
Japan has participated in the fastest Berserk Movie preview. Attoiu間was 80 minutes of spectacular fight scenes and good storyline tempo. The pity is it could not find my twitter ID in the final end credits. (Laughs) bit.ly / Qqahsk # Berserkfilm

And so forth.

Update: this guy seems to be saying a lot about the movie (CG, voice actors, maybe even pacing? I can't quite tell): https://twitter.com/cigarello
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 11, 2012, 03:49:33 AM
LOLOL!  Well, I don't think Clara can monitor / censor what other people tweet.

My bad, I thought she was retweeting them or something. It's nice to know it has 80 minutes of fight scenes with good story tempo. =) Kidding aside, one sounds like its complimentary of the film's approach to changes as opposed to cuts. We'll see.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 11, 2012, 03:52:10 AM
My bad, I thought she was retweeting them or something. It's nice to know it has 80 minutes of fight scenes with good story tempo. =) Kidding aside, one sounds like its complimentary of the film's approach to changes as opposed to cuts. We'll see.
She IS retweeting them. I think DK must have been confused about what you meant. But I got it. And you're right, she has no incentive to retweet anything that's critical of the project. She's part of their marketing arm.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Shadow8 on January 11, 2012, 11:03:52 AM
Clara has just post on twitter a interview of Kubooka Toshiyuki:

http://rikunabi-next.yahoo.co.jp/tech/docs/ct_s04510.jsp?p=berserk&__m=1&vos=nynmyaj110214
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 11, 2012, 01:00:48 PM
Eh, everything is on Japanese. If its Warner Brothers why would not they marketed the movie for the rest of the world, not only for Japan ?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 11, 2012, 01:03:33 PM
Eh, everything is on Japanese. If its Warner Brothers why would not they marketed the movie for the rest of the world, not only for Japan ?
Probably because they're focused on making the Japanese launch a success. After that they'll set dates for international releases (and likely determine the scope of the overseas release), before they begin marketing in other countries.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Shadow8 on January 11, 2012, 01:22:48 PM
Probably because they're focused on making the Japanese launch a success. After that they'll set dates for international releases (and likely determine the scope of the overseas release), before they begin marketing in other countries.

I'm not sure of that, This is not the first time we see Warner Bros take part in a film of Japanese Anime. They have already partcipants for Fate Stay night UVW and Appleseed Ex Machina and there has never been out of North America and Europe. Finally, I hope to see a North American for the movie. In addition, this does not help, the Japanese are not interested in output international for their films.

The best is waiting for a company licenses that and they come in blue-ray
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 11, 2012, 05:07:05 PM
I'm not sure of that, This is not the first time we see Warner Bros take part in a film of Japanese Anime. They have already partcipants for Fate Stay night UVW and Appleseed Ex Machina and there has never been out of North America and Europe.
Warner Bros.' involvement in Appleseed wasn't the same as it is for the Berserk Saga. To begin with, Appleseed was never pitched as an international release from the outset. But furthermore, WB didn't get involved with Appleseed until they snatched up the international distribution rights (for home video) just before the theatrical release. They weren't financially motivated to promote the movie before that time. Berserk is different. WB is the official distributor of the films, so it has a direct stake in its success, which is why I think we'll see some marketing from their end after the Japanese release of the film.

They're probably just waiting to see how well it does in Japan, after which they can make more concrete plans about which countries they'll choose to air it in. If it's a massive success, it could get a wider launch. And vice-versa if it's a flop.

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Finally, I hope to see a North American for the movie.
It's inevitable at this point, unless the movie makes negative dollars in Japan. And even then, they've already said it'll be an international release so...

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In addition, this does not help, the Japanese are not interested in output international for their films.
Not sure what you mean by this, but it sort of sounds like nonsense to me. Hundreds of movies are exported from Japan each year.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 12, 2012, 05:25:42 PM
Do anyone know when they are going to release other seiyu's interviews ? (Corcus, Pippin, Charlotte etc.)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 12, 2012, 06:01:50 PM
Okay, now with like hundreds of tweets about the movie, I tried searching "ガンビーノ" (Gambino) in twitter and i found a few posts.  Check them out yourself.

https://twitter.com/search/ガンビーノ

One in particular...

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soze_haryu かいざーそぜ
ストーリーは全体的に「序章」という感じでした 終わったときは「もう終わり!?続きはよ!!」と焦ってしまった あとガッツ幼少期のガンビーノとの顛末を入れないと物語的にスカスカの予感・・・なので、次回以降に期待したい bit.ly/qQahSK #berserkfilm

soze_haryu Let pinch or its over
The whole story, "Prologue" was felt when it is finished "end already?'ll Continue!" Of the story to put Sukasuka顛末Gambino childhood and you have already impatient and Guts So hunch, I look forward to future bit.ly / Qqahsk # Berserkfilm

Can anyone translate this for real?  Thanks!

PS I just tweeted 7 of the people that have seen the preview, and asked them in google-translated-japanese, "Is Gambino in the movie?"  Will update you if I get a response.

Also, some interesting reviews:

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bebe_twt bebe
ゾッドはCGだと思うんだけど、まったく違和感なし。ものすごい迫力。あの巨体で暴れまくる。あらためてゾッドを恐ろしいと感じた。第3部の蝕が楽しみ。 bit.ly/qQahSK #berserkfilm

Bebe_Twt Bebe
I think I'm Zoddo CG, no discomfort at all. Tremendous force. That ramp in bulk. Zoddo again felt scary. Enjoy the eclipse of the third. bit.ly / Qqahsk # Berserkfilm

bebe_twt bebe
オープニングのAriaは平沢節全開でニヤリ。今回はSignのような耳コピは難しそう。ベルセルク全編を映像化するんだという意気込みが伝わってくるオープニングです。 bit.ly/qQahSK #berserkfilm

Aria grinning at full throttle opening section of Pyeongtaek. Sign by ear like this is difficult. The enthusiasm that comes through opening've got to visualize the full-length Berserk. bit.ly / Qqahsk # Berserkfilm

umasima シマウマ
一抹の不安を感じていたガッツ役の岩永洋昭さんのお芝居…声優としての「技量」では、他の声優陣と比べ遅れはあるモノの「情感」という部分では、他の声優陣と同等である…と、私的には強く感じました。素人の俺が言うのも烏滸がましい限りですが(苦) #berserkfilm

Play for San H. Iwanaga of the role of Guts was feeling a shade of anxiety ... as the voice "talent" in the delayed compared with actors other person in a "feeling" part that is equivalent to actors other ... and some in private strongly felt. Is also absurd to say that as far as I lay (h) # Berserkfilm
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 12, 2012, 06:43:41 PM
I ckecked out the search results, also in google translator... And they didn't really made sense  :ganishka: I still cannot decide if Gambino was in the movie or not, but unfortunately, it seems more like he wasn't...  :sad:
Can anyone translate this for real?  Thanks!
Not only that one, but a brief summary of the important information from them would be very good... I hope I'm not asking for too much, I'm just really interested in them  :farnese:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on January 13, 2012, 02:32:43 AM
Based on that one tweet, it sounds like there is a brief prologue that might feature Guts' childhood. While it's not much, if it's confirmed, it's more than I'd hoped for.

I really wish I could see the entire film and judge what was in it (or not in it) already! :mozgus:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2012, 04:07:01 AM
(http://skullknight.net/images/berserk_lowest1.jpg)

Yep, all my fears were true. (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=382) :sad:

There may be some good news soon though. Will post it as soon as it's confirmed.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on January 13, 2012, 04:54:04 AM
A new video is posted:

http://youtu.be/9X1yiVvdyTs?hd=1

Looks like the scenes are again wrong? I think it looks more like guts first mission with the hawks, purely looking to the background... That was the first thing that came to mind
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2012, 05:11:33 AM
A new video is posted:

http://youtu.be/9X1yiVvdyTs?hd=1

Looks like the scenes are again wrong? I think it looks more like guts first mission with the hawks, purely looking to the background... That was the first thing that came to mind
This scene is of the Hawks outside the fortress where inside, Guts is battling Zodd. It's made quite clear. They're talking about Zodd, and how he's killed hundreds of people, etc.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on January 13, 2012, 05:29:15 AM
Those feathers on their helmets looks real funny, especially Pippin! Request anyone to please translate the dialogue from those scenes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2012, 05:36:23 AM
Request anyone to please translate the dialogue from those scenes.
It's nothing special. We all know these scenes. Same shit we've been hearing for years.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Skeleton on January 13, 2012, 06:01:06 AM
http://skullknight.net/images/berserk_lowest1.jpg

For the love of God...  :schierke:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 13, 2012, 06:07:14 AM
Lots of new scenes!!!  :serpico: :guts: :carcus:

Charlotte
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAS44bcn05Y

Rickert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0r-iTgxhcg

Zodd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QToPJ0hhRFg

Judo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X1yiVvdyTs

I'm quite pleased with the character designs in all these videos.  In fact, I really like the way Casca looks.  The Zodd voice actor seems pretty entertaining and a good fit.  And that Zodd clip was fun to watch =).  I'm not too crazy about the music that I've been hearing in all of these cast interview clips, but I have a feeling they just threw in some music in there to add some ambience to these short clips.  I'm thinking the music placement will feel better in the final cut!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 13, 2012, 06:17:36 AM
Damn, I really like that Zodd one. And the guy who is doing his voice looks pretty cool. I'm getting excited for this. Thx for the link Direct!

Charlotte was great too imo.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2012, 06:35:44 AM
Zodd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QToPJ0hhRFg
Very interesting how they approached the fog that emits from apostles during transformation. It's a little more abrupt than I pictured it in my head.

Another thing in that video...

(http://skullknight.net/images/falcon-crest2.jpg)

A new variation of the insignia! Collect them all!  :ganishka: This new variation looks a lot like the Rebel Alliance insignia (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Rebel_Alliance_logo.svg/200px-Rebel_Alliance_logo.svg.png).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 13, 2012, 07:07:15 AM
So someone replied to my tweet question about Gambino, but I don't quite understand!  But here is what he said:

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cigarello そうすけ
@directdk  We can't see Gunbino and Donoban in other scene. this movie has not Guts's childhood. :(  thank you. ;)
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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cigarello そうすけ
@directdk We will see Gumbino and Donoban in Guts's dream when he sleep after the fight with Griffith for join The Hawks.
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

So he said two things, but they sorta contradict each other... I'm asking him again!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Oburi on January 13, 2012, 07:17:29 AM
Very interesting how they approached the fog that emits from apostles during transformation. It's a little more abrupt than I pictured it in my head.
Yea that was way faster than I've ever imagined it. I remember in the old anime thinking it was cool that there's fog in the air, like that's something that happens when an apostle transforms. I never expected it to shoot out like that. Makes Ganishka seem a little less special.  :troll:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 13, 2012, 07:34:18 AM
Here we go.

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cigarello そうすけ
@directdk I hope that you enjoy this movie. I'm sorry in my clumsy English. X( thank you. =)
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

cigarello そうすけ
@directdk "Yes." We can see Gunbino. but It scene is not in the Guts's childhood.
4 minutes ago

So... what is your take on this???
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on January 13, 2012, 07:53:37 AM
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cigarello そうすけ
@directdk We will see Gumbino and Donoban in Guts's dream when he sleep after the fight with Griffith for join The Hawks.
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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cigarello そうすけ
@directdk "Yes." We can see Gunbino. but It scene is not in the Guts's childhood.
4 minutes ago
Maybe Guts has a nightmare in one scene where we get a glimpse of Gambino. It's in the manga too, i don't remember the exact episode (it's in vol. 4 i think) but Guts has this dream where Gambino has an almost severed head and Guts is holding his foot, maybe it's that.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 13, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
It was funny to see how Zodd's seiyu screams when Guts cuts him with his sword   :ganishka:
Zodd's seiyu is overall very hilarious
Charlotte's seiyu is quite fun too
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 13, 2012, 09:24:47 AM
Hmm, I'm really not a fan of Carcus' voice...

http://skullknight.net/images/berserk_lowest1.jpg (http://skullknight.net/images/berserk_lowest1.jpg)

Yep, all my fears were true. (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=382) :sad:

There may be some good news soon though. Will post it as soon as it's confirmed.

It's BURGER TIME! :schierke:

Very interesting how they approached the fog that emits from apostles during transformation. It's a little more abrupt than I pictured it in my head.

Yeah it's not very well done. The transformation itself could be better, too. Some parts look alright and at other times it's clumsy. The scene in general seems nice enough though.

So... what is your take on this???

The guy doesn't contradict himself. Basically, Guts' childhood will be briefly covered during the nightmare Guts has when he first meets Griffith and is badly wounded by him, then is kept warm by Casca during the night. It's nice that both Gambino & Donovan will be featured, but I wonder what it'll be like. Just the original nightmare scene without having all the background info on Guts' childhood would be confusing, so I imagine they'll modify to reach a compromise. Better than nothing I guess?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 13, 2012, 09:29:13 AM
Corcus voice seems quite unfitting, we haven't heard much though
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 13, 2012, 01:35:23 PM
thanks for all the informational posts everyone.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Edi on January 13, 2012, 03:46:24 PM
http://galapagosstore.com/common/LP/berserk/index.html?referer=gpapps (http://galapagosstore.com/common/LP/berserk/index.html?referer=gpapps)
http://galapagosstore.com/web/book/category/%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/series/5227?res=false (http://galapagosstore.com/web/book/category/%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/series/5227?res=false)
Who bought it?
...And how?  :???:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 13, 2012, 05:06:20 PM
Yep, all my fears were true. (http://www.berserkfilm.com/news/?p=382) :sad:
:magni:
edit: I just realised that the name of the jpg file is "berserk lowest", and I laughed so hard.

And the seiyuus... Zodd is cool, Charlotte is a bit annoying but that was expected, but I really don't like Rickert's VA. It's not a problem if a woman plays a boy, but her voice is even high for a girl, and not really talks like a boy... But I think I'll get used to it...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 13, 2012, 06:15:24 PM
One other response to me via twitter, this guy wrote to me in English:

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umasima シマウマ
@directdk  Gambino appears only in one scene as production of a movie. There is no tale of Gambino and Guts. BERSERK movie is interesting.

I don't understand what he means by "production of a movie" but nevertheless, I guess it's pretty clear, there is no real segment of Guts childhood in the film.  Great that we will at least see Gambino and Donovan (really curious to know if they will even imply anything with Guts and Donovan), but sadly, no true flashback to childhood.  Maybe somewhere down the line, they will cover more of it though.  I mean... it's Guts childhood.  People with no Berserk experience will want to know how Guts became the way he is.  There MUST be a childhood flashback at some point within these 3 movies, or the anime that follows.  There MUST! :void:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
... I guess it's pretty clear, there is no real segment of Guts childhood in the film.  Great that we will at least see Gambino and Donovan (really curious to know if they will even imply anything with Guts and Donovan), but sadly, no true flashback to childhood.
It's not dissimilar to how the anime series handled the scenes with Gambino. And I remember that stuff feeling extremely disjointed and disorienting until I read the original. All the stupid time cutting and flashbacks just confuses things, adding nothing but time compression.

However, while this scenario is a far cry from ideal, but it's honestly more than I expected. Any Gambino is more welcome than no Gambino, though we shouldn't have to be making that kind of trade-off for a project that purports itself to be true to the series.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 13, 2012, 06:28:27 PM
Who bought it?

They haven't been released yet. It starts on Jan 24, remember?

Maybe somewhere down the line, they will cover more of it though.  I mean... it's Guts childhood.  People with no Berserk experience will want to know how Guts became the way he is.  There MUST be a childhood flashback at some point within these 3 movies, or the anime that follows.  There MUST! :void:

It doesn't matter if there's a "flashback" (the entire Golden Age arc is a flashback) showing Guts' childhood "at some point". Said childhood is referenced multiple times during the arc (and directly more than once) and not having it before completely denatures a lot of scenes and themes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Edi on January 13, 2012, 06:42:04 PM
http://galapagosstore.com/common/LP/berserk/index.html?referer=gpapps (http://galapagosstore.com/common/LP/berserk/index.html?referer=gpapps)
http://galapagosstore.com/web/book/category/%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/series/5227?res=false (http://galapagosstore.com/web/book/category/%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF/series/5227?res=false)
Who bought it?
...And how?  :???:
They haven't been released yet. It starts on Jan 24, remember?
Not Young Animal Remix... You clicked on a link?

This is e-book.  "一気読み!『ベルセルク』スペシャル編集版"

When I click buy - displays the error: "クレジットカード情報登録/更新失敗:クレジットカード情報が登録できません。登録内容をご確認下さい。"  :judo: 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 13, 2012, 06:46:29 PM
Not Young Animal Remix... You clicked on a link?

This is e-book.  "一気読み!『ベルセルク』スペシャル編集版"

I did, but it looks like the same deal to me. Anyway, you need their custom app to get the books. But since this thread isn't a hotline, why don't you go ahead and figure the rest out by yourself? Thanks.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 13, 2012, 07:31:45 PM
That Zodd interview is cute. He gets so tickled!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on January 13, 2012, 08:35:14 PM
If there's limited time dedicated to Guts' childhood in this film with it only shortly being referenced in a dream during Casca keeping his body warm. We can hope that more of it will be covered in a further flashback during the moment they have sex before going to rescue Griffith, as Guts is reminded of being raped by Donnovan. I can see the third film being VERY dramatic and action packed, I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2012, 09:14:22 PM
If there's limited time dedicated to Guts' childhood in this film with it only shortly being referenced in a dream during Casca keeping his body warm. We can hope that more of it will be covered in a further flashback during the moment they have sex before going to rescue Griffith, as Guts is reminded of being raped by Donnovan. I can see the third film being VERY dramatic and action packed, I'm looking forward to it.
Many people have already expressed this belief, but it's intrinsically flawed. Here's Aaz' take:

It doesn't matter if there's a "flashback" (the entire Golden Age arc is a flashback) showing Guts' childhood "at some point". Said childhood is referenced multiple times during the arc (and directly more than once) and not having it before completely denatures a lot of scenes and themes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on January 13, 2012, 09:58:26 PM
Many people have already expressed this belief, but it's intrinsically flawed. Here's Aaz' take:


Oh, that's agreed. It would definitely be preferable to have it corresponding to the original placement of said scenes relative to the manga, but if they can place it in later on, it's better than not at all.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Saephon on January 13, 2012, 10:59:28 PM
Oh, that's agreed. It would definitely be preferable to have it corresponding to the original placement of said scenes relative to the manga, but if they can place it in later on, it's better than not at all.

I'm not so sure. Lots of great storytelling are filled with foreshadowing and references. To forgo all of that and just cram information into the movie on a "need-to-know" basis sounds harmful. I can't decide if that's worse than just salvaging what is left in the most faithful way possible. (As I type that, I shake my head. Why couldn't the whole damn thing just be left untouched?)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 13, 2012, 11:04:47 PM
(As I type that, I shake my head. Why couldn't the whole damn thing just be left untouched?)

(http://skullknight.net/images/berserk-lowest2.jpg)

Franchising opportunities. This, my friends, is more depressing than if Miura announced a five year break. This is the lowest point in the history of Berserk. Guts and Griffith munching on snacks. For cash. On the fields of Naboo.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on January 13, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
Franchising opportunities. This, my friends, is more depressing than if Miura announced a five year break. This is the lowest point in the history of Berserk. Guts and Griffith munching on snacks. For cash. On the fields of Naboo.

Well, as anyone can expect, all anime adaptations of any popular manga are in the end really just cross-promotional ventures. And the new Berserk anime, just as it was with the '97 TV series, it is no exception. We just never expected it turning out to be so utterly crass and contemptuously self-cannibalizing like this  :sad: 

But what makes this even more depressing, is the fact that Miura is actually dedicating his time for this miserable excuse for an "adaptation". He'll be drawing all kinds of promo arts and sketches, which in turn will be eating into the time that he would have otherwise spent working on future Berserk episodes    :femto: 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 14, 2012, 01:24:24 AM
But what makes this even more depressing, is the fact that Miura is actually dedicating his time for this miserable excuse for an "adaptation". He'll be drawing all kinds of promo arts and sketches, which in turn will be eating into the time that he would have otherwise spent working on future Berserk episodes    :femto: 
We don't know the extent of his involvement. There's no reason to assume that he's doing all the things you suggest.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 14, 2012, 06:06:31 AM
I was going to refrain from posting in this section from now on, but... you just had to edit your post, didn't you, GayHumper (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=3911;sa=account)? :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on January 14, 2012, 06:10:11 AM
I was hoping that earlier smaller low res image posted was a fake and now your post makes it clear Walter, thanks for sharing. That's ... just ... weird to see them like that.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 14, 2012, 06:13:26 AM
I was hoping that earlier smaller low res image posted was a fake and now your post makes it clear Walter, thanks for sharing. That's ... just ... weird to see them like that.

At least they're staying true to the characters! Guts with a hearty hamburger and Griffith washing down a beverage! Maybe it's a cool Pulp Fiction reference, or Griffith's drinking your milkshake, There Will Be Blood style?

Or, I'm just crying on the inside.


P.S. God, that look on Guts' face. This whoring out is a worse betrayal than Gambino's.

P.P.S. For the reference of future fans, that's a character from the manga and "classic" anime. The manga is what Berserk started as before reaching its full potential as a marketing tool.

P.P.P.S. I just had to go and edit my post, didn't I?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 14, 2012, 06:58:57 AM
http://skullknight.net/images/berserk-lowest2.jpg
Oh, God, it was also posted on their Facebook :magni: I feel like I was punched in the face with this picture three times.

Damn, at least they could sit in a pub or something, but no, they're eating fast food in the middle of nowhere, dressed in their armors for battle... But I guess, nothing could help this picture and make it less horrible...

By the way, these kind of things make me think that Japanese don't take Berserk seriously...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Oburi on January 14, 2012, 07:19:29 AM

P.P.S. For the reference of future fans, that's a character from the manga and "classic" anime. The manga is what Berserk started as before reaching its full potential as a marketing tool.

Hehe, I just got nostalgic reading that. Going back to freshman year of high school.

I don't even want this anymore  :sad: Just makes me sad.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on January 14, 2012, 07:57:47 AM
I'm willing to deny that picture of Griffith and Guts advertising fast food officially exists, in my head. I'm just going to pass it off as an attempt at humorous fan art from now on and ban it from my brain.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 14, 2012, 08:00:39 AM
I don't think that that advertisement is all that bad. Once you've seen Void baking muffins and Skullknight riding a tricycle, this does not seem so bad.  :troll:

Advertising will help sale tickets. If you guys are so upset about some burger advertising, then what will you do when they come out with Guts and Griffith PEZ dispensers? or God Hand Flakes Cereal? That sounds pretty good actually. :daiba:

The radio thing was a bit silly too, but at least they are trying to get people's attention.

The only thing I will get upset about is the cutting of entire segments from the manga (or alteration such as Guts' sword during the assassination). Would you guys feel a little less upset if they never stated 100% faithful-ness?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 14, 2012, 08:08:18 AM

Ads are a part of promotion, and I think the guys at marketing could have come up with something better than this. Even if it wasn't announced that it was going to be or not 100% faithful, there was hope they could make a decent story,since we all knew there is no way they were going to include every single part of the manga.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 14, 2012, 08:13:39 AM
Ads are a part of promotion, and I think the guys at marketing could have come up with something better than this.
You're right. A burger advertisement makes Berserk look kiddish and really makes me think of Optimus Prime advertising a Whopper. Smarter advertising choices would be good unless they decide to make this movie PG-13 somehow. That would be a true horror.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 14, 2012, 08:57:39 AM
Would you guys feel a little less upset if they never stated 100% faithful-ness?

Wouldn't change anything for me. Faithfulness is what I'd naturally expect from it.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on January 14, 2012, 11:14:39 AM
Franchising opportunities. This, my friends, is more depressing than if Miura announced a five year break. This is the lowest point in the history of Berserk. Guts and Griffith munching on snacks. For cash. On the fields of Naboo.

I second that!
The other flyer with Guts cheerful face left me more or less the same feeling...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on January 14, 2012, 01:25:44 PM
That picture makes me hate Berserk right now.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on January 14, 2012, 02:42:27 PM
Ah so I wasn't too far off from the appearance of Donovan and Gambino, about them showing up in some flashback, (or Nightmare), but just not really having much lines.

I'm getting more and more hyped, but I am curious over something, is there a picture of the sword Guts is apparently gonna use for the assassination? I also agree, he shouldn't change swords, but to what degree is this change?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 14, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
Ah so I wasn't too far off from the appearance of Donovan and Gambino, about them showing up in some flashback, (or Nightmare), but just not really having much lines.

I'm getting more and more hyped, but I am curious over something, is there a picture of the sword Guts is apparently gonna use for the assassination? I also agree, he shouldn't change swords, but to what degree is this change?

Hello, Leith.

If you review the trailer at this specific moment 1:20 into the trailer: http://youtu.be/WF3OP3f2I10?t=1m20s (http://youtu.be/WF3OP3f2I10?t=1m20s) you can see Guts using a blade that is of a much different anatomy than his sword he is never without. Also, you can see a veil being worn over his face, which is very realistic if you are a good assassin, but Guts was not. If I understand it correctly, the reason Guts' assassination did not go so smoothly in the manga was because he was not skilled at this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on January 14, 2012, 02:58:56 PM
I don't know, but i don't feel "hyped" about this movie at all (i was at some point, when it was announced). It just seems to me that it's going to be a disgrace.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on January 14, 2012, 03:05:03 PM
Hello, Leith.

If you review the trailer at this specific moment 1:20 into the trailer: http://youtu.be/WF3OP3f2I10?t=1m20s (http://youtu.be/WF3OP3f2I10?t=1m20s) you can see Guts using a blade that is of a much different anatomy than his sword he is never without. Also, you can see a veil being worn over his face, which is very realistic if you are a good assassin, but Guts was not. If I understand it correctly, the reason Guts' assassination did not go so smoothly in the manga was because he was not skilled at this sort of thing.

Ahhhh I see, hmm, that is pretty stupid, but at least things could be much worse.

I don't know, but i don't feel "hyped" about this movie at all (i was at some point, when it was announced). It just seems to me that it's going to be a disgrace.

A disgrace? Isn't that a bit harsh? I can see why it could be bad, but not awful, to me personally at least it looks good.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 14, 2012, 04:26:40 PM
If I understand it correctly, the reason Guts' assassination did not go so smoothly in the manga was because he was not skilled at this sort of thing.

The reason it didn't go smoothly is because there were circumstances he did not anticipate (and he did not anticipate them, among other things, because he is not a professional assassin).
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Dr.Legato on January 14, 2012, 05:07:21 PM
(http://skullknight.net/images/berserk-lowest2.jpg)

Franchising opportunities. This, my friends, is more depressing than if Miura announced a five year break. This is the lowest point in the history of Berserk. Guts and Griffith munching on snacks. For cash. On the fields of Naboo.

LOL  :ubik:

Seriously who cares, as long as the movie brings in lots of cash they can keep going after just the 3 movies...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Miracles on January 14, 2012, 05:56:06 PM
I don't know why, but that picture seems to be making me hungry... I guess I'll just go to McMidland's and get a Guts burger and a side of Griffrites.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 14, 2012, 06:09:38 PM
LOL  :ubik:

Seriously who cares, as long as the movie brings in lots of cash they can keep going after just the 3 movies...
That sounds like the kind of reasoning Griffith used when he sacrificed his men.  :void:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: JezzaX on January 14, 2012, 06:22:52 PM
That sounds like the kind of reasoning Griffith used when he sacrificed his men.  :void:

Griffith intended to release movies for money?  :iva: Do I dare ask what kind of movies?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on January 14, 2012, 06:25:18 PM
As Bill Hicks famously said, "By the way, if anyone here is in advertising, or marketing: kill yourself." That poster makes me ill.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: supa_pokute on January 14, 2012, 06:50:41 PM
What fast food chain is it advertising for in Japan?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 14, 2012, 07:15:50 PM
Okay, I love my fellow SK'ers, and hopefully y'all still love me after this post, but I really feel like some of you are being a bit over dramatic about this fast food ad.  When I saw this image for the first time, it didn't give me a sick feeling to my stomach at all.  I chuckled.  I thought it was hilarious.  And I have a strong belief, that most people will see this, and laugh as well.  No one is going to take this image seriously.  The character designs / faces are way off.  It's just a silly over-the-top ad.  People that will see the movie, will know what Berserk is about.  And people that know the manga, will know even more what Berserk is about.  And for people that don't even know anything about Berserk, any person with a brain will know that when they see that image it's just a comedic ad with two anime dudes eating a burger and soda... so what?

It's not diluting the Berserk manga.  It's not affecting anything that you guys enjoy.  Are you guys in Japan and seeing this ad everywhere you go?  No.  This ad doesn't mean Berserk is selling out.  This ad doesn't make Berserk a disgrace.  This ad doesn't mean Berserk is at its all time low.  This ad doesn't mean that no one should be hyped for this movie anymore...  I mean, seriously?  It's a fricken ad... about fast food...  It is what it is.  Nothing more.  Enjoy what we have.  Judge the movie for what is is when you see it.  Sure, if the movie is an abomination, that yeah, that will be really depressing.  It could perhaps turn away several potential Berserk manga fans in the future.  It could soil the Berserk name in some fashion or another.  But I have a feeling that even if the movie isn't fantastic, it's not going to be an abomination (and I still believe the movies are going to be very enjoyable, despite the shortcomings that we have already discovered).  And no matter what, Berserk will always have its true hardcore manga fans, that stick with the manga at whatever cost, and that aren't so EASILY SWAYED by some stupid fucking ad.  Seriously people, find something else to complain about...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Grail on January 14, 2012, 07:36:00 PM
I'm in the same boat as Derek here (regarding my general attitude towards the commercial). The commercialization is so blatant and downright goofy that it makes me smile more than anything. :guts: While I can understand that people are annoyed about Berserk being so badly misrepresented, it's better not to take it too seriously. Besides, I don't think you can argue that Guts wouldn't gobble down a big, manly burger if he had the chance! :troll:

I wonder if Miura knows about these ads, and if he does, how does he feel about them?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 14, 2012, 08:38:54 PM
The character designs / faces are way off.

Then it's totally consistent with the rest of the production.

This ad doesn't mean that no one should be hyped for this movie anymore...

Yeah, there were already plenty of other reasons not to be.

Seriously people, find something else to complain about...

You could also find something else to apologize for. You know, Phantom Menace 3D is coming out soon; it's not so bad compared to the other prequels! :griffnotevil:

Still love ya, but fundamentally disagree.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 14, 2012, 08:52:02 PM
Then it's totally consistent with the rest of the production.

From the footage that we've seen (the trailers, spots, and cast interviews) I've been quite pleased with the faces.  The faces in this fast food ad aren't along the same lines.

You could also find something else to apologize for. You know, Phantom Menace 3D is coming out soon; it's not so bad compared to the other prequels!

Sigh~ I'm not trying to apologize or justify anything.  All I'm saying is don't make this silly ad into something bigger than it needs to be.  And that goes for everyone, not just trying to single out you.  The anime saga is the anime saga.  The manga is the manga.  Feel free not to watch the movie if you don't want to.  You and I still have the precious manga.  That's all the matters in the end, and that's all that most of us seem to care about.

Still love ya, but fundamentally disagree.

:slan: Glad to hear it.  But okay, I guess we just have to agree to disagree then.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Skeleton on January 14, 2012, 09:24:47 PM
It is what it is.  Nothing more.  Enjoy what we have.

That's the kind of slave mentality that leads to tyranny*.   :azan:







*This statement was made for comedic purposes only.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 14, 2012, 09:36:59 PM
This ad doesn't mean Berserk is selling out.  
This ad doesn't make Berserk a disgrace.
This ad doesn't mean Berserk is at its all time low.  
This ad doesn't mean that no one should be hyped for this movie anymore...
(http://skullknight.net/images/directDKinfominister.jpg)

I knew we made you the Merchandise Mod for a reason  :void:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on January 14, 2012, 11:15:34 PM
I'm sorry if my post about the ad pushed you over the edge, Derek. My comment was directed entirely at the ad and stems from my frustration with the fact that we as a society have to slap a dollar sign on every single thing these days. Promotions for the film are one thing, but do we really need to see Guts and Griffith being used to sell fast food? It's ridiculous. Nothing is sacred anymore. I hate seeing stuff like that these days. It feels cheep and disrespectful. I know it comes with the territory, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

As for the films, I'm still looking forward to seeing them. I've enjoyed the clips we've seen so far, and I'm relieved to know that Gambino and Donovan haven't been cut out entirely. The animation is very well done and I've enjoyed the music. I'm reserving judgment until after I see the first film in its entirety, and even then it may take me several days of ruminating before I decide whether or not I'm satisfied.

It will never live up to the manga, but I wasn't really expecting it to. I just hope it doesn't do a great disservice to it, but that remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Julalien on January 14, 2012, 11:27:51 PM
Although the image of Guts and Griffith is hilarious and more than a little disturbing, this sort of merchandising campaign between a major anime film production and Lotteria has been successful before. Over the past few years, Evangelion, Macross Frontier, K-ON!, and Fullmetal Alchemist have all had cross-advertising with the fast food chain which involved some fairly ridiculous depictions of the characters.

I don't care for the image of Guts and Griffith myself and the animators certainly could have chosen a better image but for anime this kind of advertising isn't unusual and at the very least this shows that the promoters of the film are at least trying to advertise the animated version of Berserk in a similar fashion to the other massive film hits that other studios have had over the years. Which, by itself, is some sign of the amount of faith that the producers/promoters have in the project.

 Now, I just want to see the movies myself and take a look at how Toshiyuki Kubooka interprets my favorite manga of all time. And based on the new clips that have recently been uploaded I can say that I like how Zodd and Guts' confrontation has been handled much better than how it was done in the old television series.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on January 15, 2012, 07:01:52 AM
I wonder if Miura knows about these ads, and if he does, how does he feel about them?
Wouldn't they need Mr. Miuras consent in order to make them ?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 15, 2012, 09:56:59 AM
I both agree about how disgusting this ad is (I'm sure I'll never buy those burgers :ganishka: I guess they managed to reach the opposite of their aim) and also about that until it doesn't affect the movie itself, it's almost okay (well, not okay, rather acceptable... but still disturbing...)
I mean, until there's no product placement in the movie itself, I can get over it. But at the moment I glimpse any kind of advertisement or even an easter egg in the movie that is not related to the original, I'll get violent... But I'm sure Berserk won't get that low, these were just the worst nightmares I could come up with... I'm not Sonia, so I guess my predictions are not going to come true, haha...
We saw chibis and funny things before even by Miura himself, we should try to think about it like those (although I know the picture doesn't make sense and far worse than those, but... yes...)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 15, 2012, 01:10:27 PM
I really feel like some of you are being a bit over dramatic about this fast food ad.  When I saw this image for the first time, it didn't give me a sick feeling to my stomach at all.  I chuckled.  I thought it was hilarious.  And I have a strong belief, that most people will see this, and laugh as well.  No one is going to take this image seriously.  The character designs / faces are way off.  It's just a silly over-the-top ad.

Yeah, some reactions may have been a bit over-dramatic. However you're exaggerating too when you say it's "hilarious". "Silly & cheesy" is more like it. I'd have to agree that it isn't such a big deal overall though. Like Julalien said, it's par for the course with productions of that caliber.

It's not diluting the Berserk manga.  It's not affecting anything that you guys enjoy.  Are you guys in Japan and seeing this ad everywhere you go?  No.  This ad doesn't mean Berserk is selling out.  This ad doesn't make Berserk a disgrace.  This ad doesn't mean Berserk is at its all time low.

I don't think anyone said it was doing any of these things. However it's easy for me to understand how it had some fans rolling their eyes at its goofiness, since it's pretty much how I reacted to it myself. For those of us who see Berserk more as a work of art than as a commercial product to consume and forget about, it isn't especially enjoyable to see the series put forward in that context.

This ad doesn't mean that no one should be hyped for this movie anymore...

That advertisement isn't the reason people aren't hyped about the movie (anymore).

Wouldn't they need Mr. Miuras consent in order to make them ?

Not sure they would. Hakusensha holds rights over Berserk as well, and I doubt Miura personally approves everything that relates to Berserk. And that goes triple for stuff that concerns the movie.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Bramwell on January 15, 2012, 01:21:14 PM
This was uploaded on the 14th. I think theres a few new scenes but not many

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 15, 2012, 01:30:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y
The song is nice, but damn, that CG made me worried again...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 15, 2012, 02:05:51 PM
This was uploaded on the 14th. I think theres a few new scenes but not many

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y

Wow yeah, some new scenes indeed! Thanks for the video. First thing is the confirmation that the battle scene in the barren area that we saw many times is the taking of the castle that Bazûso defended. Speaking of which, I have to say that they could have made more of an effort on him, his eyes seem way too big for example and make him look goofy. I'm not going to say "almost like he's from Wind Waker" but it did come to my mind. I also wish they'd have left his armor the way it was in the manga. Looked way cooler in my opinion, and more fitting of his character.

Second, regarding Guts' first encounter with the Band of the Falcon. He has the time to slowly put on his helmet and even to menacingly brandish his sword, which is not how it happened in the manga (they attacked by surprise and he didn't have time to do anything but drop his bag and defend himself). It also seems like Casca is among those who first attack him, as we see him take a horse down by cutting its legs (something he didn't do during that encounter) and the next frame is her falling down. I'm chalking it up to the clip's editing (splicing different scenes together), but if not it could be a big difference from how it's supposed to happen and would somewhat mess up the subtle characterization of Casca and Carcus.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on January 15, 2012, 02:28:21 PM
When Guts and Casca are fighting it looks like 2 characters fighting in a video game. There's some CG that looks really good and some that's poorly done.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 15, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
When Guts and Casca are fighting it looks like 2 characters fighting in a video game. There's some CG that looks really good and some that's poorly done.

I think one of my favorites of the bad cg scenes is what can be seen in that Zodd seiyuu (?) interview. Guts seems to cower in marveling of the sight that is Zodd's transformation, and it looks like a lazy and inexpensive flash effect. Two images, one over the other, and one's moving. For whatever reason it seems to have stuck out to me.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 15, 2012, 06:39:04 PM
When Guts and Casca are fighting it looks like 2 characters fighting in a video game. There's some CG that looks really good and some that's poorly done.

Totally agree here. I was impressed how Guts and Zodd fought in that interview video, but now we have poorly animated soldiers and armies and Guts vs Casca videogame fight.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 15, 2012, 09:38:19 PM
I liked the song. :carcus:

The parts that weren't CG I loved.

The CG needs a lot of work, or needs to be scrapped all together(too late for that). Whoever suggested CG for these movies need to be slapped across the face.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Oburi on January 16, 2012, 03:01:45 AM
Does this mean Guts doesn't fight those other two guys from the band of the Hawk? If so that sucks. He kills one of them and cuts the other dudes arm off.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 16, 2012, 05:57:31 AM
Does this mean Guts doesn't fight those other two guys from the band of the Hawk? If so that sucks. He kills one of them and cuts the other dudes arm off.
Nah, looks like it's just editing.

(http://skullknight.net/images/boots1.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/boots2.jpg)

First solider that approaches Guts. Note his boots. They aren't the same as Casca's, which are shown later. Furthermore, in this same frame, you can see that lead-off guy is carrying a sword, whereas Casca is shown later holding the crossbow still. Casca then rolls down... and to the left. Down... and to the left. (http://youtu.be/9MLc0udf_74?t=3m26s) Which, while accurate, she's supposed to have gotten a quiver in Guts' right arm by this point. So it's clear they're changing parts of the fight. Nothing to get too upset over though. Like in many cases, the question then becomes, "What was wrong with the fight as it was?" Possibly too many breaks in the action for what's probably a short scene on the screen.

Which means there's a segment missing between these shots, even though it's edited to look like one continuous shot. Ultimately though, that's not Casca leading off. Which leaves room for Dan and Earl to get destroyed by Guts before Casca intervenes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 16, 2012, 06:22:11 AM
Great analysis, Walter.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 16, 2012, 12:47:38 PM
It also seems like Casca is among those who first attack him, as we see him take a horse down by cutting its legs (something he didn't do during that encounter) and the next frame is her falling down. I'm chalking it up to the clip's editing (splicing different scenes together), but if not it could be a big difference from how it's supposed to happen and would somewhat mess up the subtle characterization of Casca and Carcus.

I was going to ask if he cut the horses legs out in the manga, couldn't remember. Thanks for clearing that up. Even though thats not how it happened, I thought that was pretty bad ass, but then again most things about Guts are bad ass so...

Also, in that video, Guts looks older, less boyish than he should be during that particular time??
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Señor Caudillo on January 16, 2012, 06:13:25 PM
Also, in that video, Guts looks older, less boyish than he should be during that particular time??

The similar can be said of some other characters, especially Charlotte and Griffith. In numerous shots they look quite a lot older than they were in the manga during the Golden Age arc, and more like their Milenium Falcon-era selves. 
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gill on January 16, 2012, 06:41:48 PM
Also, in that video, Guts looks older, less boyish than he should be during that particular time??
I don't think... Maybe it seems like because Miura's style changed a lot during the manga but the movie's character designs are the same from the beginning. But I think the difference can be seen between their younger and older version.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 17, 2012, 05:14:37 AM
I can't wait to see the new movies! Unlike a lot of people that are being picky about certain things. I'm just happy to get any form of new animation adaptation. Every clip and scene I've seen looks amazing, these films have some of the best looking animation I've ever seen. It is better than hellsings ultimate. I would like to see every epic page of the manga done detail for detail but that's unlikely. I just want the basics vs the old anime ( puck being there and skullknight) and than anything for it to go past casca's femto rape. No offence to anyone I think everyone should just be a bit happier berserk is being redone.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on January 17, 2012, 12:49:37 PM
Why would i be happy about watching a new adaption of the same shit we already saw on the first anime (in a more faithful way it seems)? If it showed something new i'd be hyped (black swordsman arc to be more exact). Since it's just same old with a new (and rather awful) skin, i'll give a look whenever, because i doubt it'll premiere anywhere near me.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 17, 2012, 02:41:17 PM
BECAUSE IT'S ANIME!!!!! :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Draculoid on January 17, 2012, 03:03:15 PM
BECAUSE IT'S ANIME!!!!! :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico: :serpico:

lol.....and at Gnomeking.Don't get me started with my gripes on the recent Hellsing Ultimates....

 I'm happy you're so excited for them yourself. I've been on a fine line between love and hate this whole time and not really weighing in my opinion, just observing. I have to say though after that last posted clip that showed quite a few scenes, I'm actually pretty impressed. I mean Bazuso looked quite silly at first but when I started watching a bit more, It sort of donned on me that with so much CG animation, once I look at so much of it on screen long enough it begins to look less awkward. Some of the animation looks a little weak but its also intersperced with some better looking CG. Just saying the last clip got me a little more excited, unlike the Zodd clip.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 17, 2012, 04:00:34 PM
I think I agree. From the last clip I found that I enjoyed all of the scenes from the Bazuso siege.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 17, 2012, 05:24:23 PM
As before, the CG doesn't seem to bother me as much as other people. Which is strange, because you'd think with the amount of games that I've played, that I'd be able to spot CG a mile away. But I can't. For the most part, I think the CG is well blended with the pure animation scenes. There have been a handful of discrepancies seen thus far, but for the most part I don't quite understand the upset over the inclusion of CG. is it merely a matter of principle?

Maybe someone can elaborate on it for me?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 17, 2012, 06:24:30 PM
As before, the CG doesn't seem to bother me as much as other people. Which is strange, because you'd think with the amount of games that I've played, that I'd be able to spot CG a mile away. But I can't. For the most part, I think the CG is well blended with the pure animation scenes. There have been a handful of discrepancies seen thus far, but for the most part I don't quite understand the upset over the inclusion of CG. is it merely a matter of principle?

Maybe someone can elaborate on it for me?

I agree, somewhat. Cg animation is the future in anime. Using cg they are able to maintain detailed scenes from any point of view. As well as the fluid motions of multiple (items) at one time. The special effects the can create using cg like in the basuzo scene where guts is cracking his axe, just that would be a feat to animate without cg.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 17, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
facebook update.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393987_299740173410708_197046067013453_917625_792493394_n.jpg) :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 17, 2012, 07:35:01 PM
It appears Guts is suited for a rum and coke of some sort.

And Griffith's is... white. Maybe a White Russian or something.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 17, 2012, 10:13:55 PM
white Russian ? what do you mean ?
Well CG or not CG I wish the CG for Berserk film was done by Square-Enix or something like that  :troll:
Anyway, having watched trailers and interviews several times, I finally liked it.
I guess we just have to get used to its new style, Berserk film seem to be really beautiful in the end
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Draculoid on January 17, 2012, 11:11:35 PM
Handmade_Lion is guessing they are holding alchoholic beverages, a White Russian is a mixed drink made with Vodka, a coffee liqueur like kahlua and cream.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: supa_pokute on January 17, 2012, 11:36:52 PM
Judging from all the clips I've seen so far of the film, I have to agree with a few other members about the animation. On one hand there are scenes with amazing detail and vibrant colors, but then when it shows certain CG segments it looks very dated and a stark contrast to the other parts. Now maybe this is because of the way it's edited in a lot of previews, but either way it will be an interesting experience.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on January 18, 2012, 02:56:15 AM
The CG never really bothered me, though some scenes as people have pointed out do need some work, everything LOOKS good to me, but in certain scenes, the movement feels stiff.

The only thing that bothers me is some of the minor changes, major changes would be worse but personally just minor changes annoy me more simply cause well...its minor, so why change it at all? Like Guts putting on his helmet before those two Hawk mercenaries attack, what's the point? Why not just stick to the manga, do they really want to just set it apart with such trivial things?

I understand that because it's trivial, it can really go both ways, (someone may say, why complain, it's trivial), but overall, that's the only thing that bothers me, it seems like they are just trying to make this a LITTLE bit different from the manga and 90's anime, which would be fine with most series but this is Berserk, it's perfect as it is.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 18, 2012, 04:43:32 AM
The only thing that bothers me is some of the minor changes, major changes would be worse but personally just minor changes annoy me more simply cause well...its minor, so why change it at all? Like Guts putting on his helmet before those two Hawk mercenaries attack, what's the point? Why not just stick to the manga, do they really want to just set it apart with such trivial things?

I feel the same way except the major changes only bother me that much more. Like if you're going to seemingly alter every other scene and probably mangle the story forcing it into a format it's not particularly suited to then why bother at all? It's already disappointing in that regard. I just hope that despite the compromises while actually sitting and watching it the strength of the original material will shine through and I'll smile and my heart will grow three sizes or something. Probably not. =)

Ok everybody, back to the real make or break issue: did they capture the true CGI quality of the manga properly? :iva:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on January 18, 2012, 01:46:46 PM
I feel the same way except the major changes only bother me that much more. Like if you're going to seemingly alter every other scene and probably mangle the story forcing it into a format it's not particularly suited to then why bother at all? It's already disappointing in that regard. I just hope that despite the compromises while actually sitting and watching it the strength of the original material will shine through and I'll smile and my heart will grow three sizes or something. Probably not. =)

That pretty much echoes my sentiments. I really want to enjoy the films when they come out (if this one sucks, I'll probably skip the others, though) and I hope that they do justice to the story, even if the format doesn't lend itself to it. The minor changes irk me, too, but I can live with them as long as they get the major stuff right.

Do you think that they just want to show off the spiffy armor they spent so much cash creating, or do you think they're featuring it more to differentiate between the two anime adaptations? I can't imagine they'd be making these changes to differ between the films and the manga, but crazier things have come to pass.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 18, 2012, 01:58:33 PM
Do you think that they just want to show off the spiffy armor they spent so much cash creating, or do you think they're featuring it more to differentiate between the two anime adaptations? I can't imagine they'd be making these changes to differ between the films and the manga, but crazier things have come to pass.

They're lazy. Probably one guy on the entire team has read the manga, and is recreating scenes from his head. Its not on purpose, its just... slackers.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on January 18, 2012, 03:22:19 PM
Ok everybody, back to the real make or break issue: did they capture the true CGI quality of the manga properly? :iva:

Hehe, well, again as I said above, I think it looks great, but the movement is just a little...sluggish, atleast on certain scenes, kinda has that old stop motion movement I would expect to see in a 1940's monster movie  :iva: but that's when it's at it's worst, when it's at it's best, it looks fantastic, just wonderful.

They're lazy. Probably one guy on the entire team has read the manga, and is recreating scenes from his head. Its not on purpose, its just... slackers.

If so, I wonder what Miura would have to say towards the team.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 18, 2012, 04:43:21 PM
That pretty much echoes my sentiments. I really want to enjoy the films when they come out (if this one sucks, I'll probably skip the others, though)

Oh, I'll see them all pretty much no matter what, and I'm fully prepared to have one of my Mr. Burns-like change of heart.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2012, 07:30:55 PM
I think one of my favorites of the bad cg scenes is what can be seen in that Zodd seiyuu (?) interview. Guts seems to cower in marveling of the sight that is Zodd's transformation, and it looks like a lazy and inexpensive flash effect. Two images, one over the other, and one's moving. For whatever reason it seems to have stuck out to me.

Yeah that one I felt wasn't executed very well. The original scene conveys Guts' fear so well that it's pathetic in comparison.

I can't wait to see the new movies! Unlike a lot of people that are being picky about certain things. I'm just happy to get any form of new animation adaptation.

Good for you! An absolute lack of standards must make for a very enjoyable life.

They're lazy. Probably one guy on the entire team has read the manga, and is recreating scenes from his head. Its not on purpose, its just... slackers.

Don't be stupid. They're just "improving" on the original. It's more dramatic done their way, you see.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 18, 2012, 08:04:30 PM
Walter, I do enjoy my life. My standards aren't lacking trying to assume so is naive. I just appreciate art (animation) than you with a better understanding of the reality film making. I can accept these films do knowing kentaro consented them. And really name a better animated film you can't
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 18, 2012, 08:17:15 PM
My standards aren't lacking trying to assume so is naive.

"I'm just happy to get any form of new animation adaptation."

That, by definition, means you don't have standards, because you're happy with anything.

I just appreciate art (animation) than you with a better understanding of the reality film making.

You should probably start with understanding English to begin with, and move on to art and/or filmmaking at a later date. :slan: I mean if you can't even distinguish my avatar from Walter's, you're not exactly fit to discuss any kind of art, you know?

And really name a better animated film you can't

:ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: hellrasinbrasin on January 18, 2012, 10:03:23 PM
(http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/11/05/VPCG-84921.jpg)
BERSERK Golden Age Arc I Egg of the Supreme Ruler: Original Soundtrack
Music Composed by: Shiro Sagisu

01.The Wrath Of God (part II)
02.Et Voici Guts!
03.Griffith's Dream
04.Des Cambrioleurs!?
05.Semper Invicta
06.Des Liens Solides
07.New Horizons
08.Obscurite des Victimes
09.La Bete Immense (part I)
10.Voix du Diable
11.La Bete Immense (part II)
12.The Sound of Tortured Souls
13.Pour L'Eternite (part II)
14.L'Amour Impitoyable
15.Jeux de Nobles
16.L'Amour Impitoyable (piano solo)
17.Blood and Guts
18.Avant la Tempete
19.Blood and Guts (closing credits)
20.Pour L'Eternite (part I)

Source: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VPCG-84921 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VPCG-84921)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 18, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Thanks for the new information! What a strange mix of languages we have here. English, Latin, French?

I also noticed that this is only the score soundtrack, by Shiro Sagisu, which means that A.I.'s track "Isn't it Beautiful?" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y) and Susumu's track, "Aria," will be separate releases. Too bad we apparently can't get them all on the same disc.  :sad:

As an aside, that A.I. song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y) is really growing on me. I still don't think it fits well with the scenes it plays along with. But the melody is catchy, and I think it'll work well as a credits song.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: hellrasinbrasin on January 18, 2012, 10:19:44 PM
I also noticed that this is only the score soundtrack, by Shiro Sagisu, which means that A.I. and Susumu's track, Aria, will be separate releases. Too bad we can't get them all on the same disc.

I know, I realize that it sucks but marketing is what it is.

BERSERK Golden Age Arc I Egg of the Supreme Ruler - Aria [Single] Susumu Hirasawa
(http://www.berserkfilm.com/image/news/uploads/product_aria_l.jpg)
Release Date: 02/04/2012

01.Aria
02.Aria (Karaoke)

Source(s): http://noroom.susumuhirasawa.com/
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=DAKCHTE-70

--------------------

The ED Theme will be released on AI's "Independent" Album
(http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/00/02/TOCT-28043.jpg)
Release Date: 2/22/2012

01.Dance Together
02.Independent Woman
03.Happiness
04.Unbalance
05.Futuristic Lover
06.W/U
07.Beyond Your Dream
08.One Love
09.Beautiful Things
10.Letter in the Sky Featuring: The Jacksons

Source: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=TOCT-28043
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 18, 2012, 10:43:28 PM
Sorry Walter and aazealh I was at work on a break, and using my phone. " happy to get any anime" was basically saying its better than none. Ive also only talked about the quality of the cg animation, not if its true to the manga..... I rest at this is the best cg anime yet  
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: hellrasinbrasin on January 18, 2012, 11:02:53 PM
I must say, that while happy that the books are being adapted; It's unrealistic to think that everything will make it to screen. I say this, because there is no such thing; as a 100% faithful adaptation of any source material -- and anyone who says otherwise is just plain lying. So while specific characters or locations are certainly possible to hit the cutting room floor for the theatrical cut of the films you always have the extended cut to look forward to on DVD. All I'm interested in so far as "The Golden Age" is concerned is that the Director respectfully handled: Griffith's Rise & Fall, The Band of the Hawk, The Griffith, Guts, & Casca Triangle, and the Carnival. As long as those sequence of events aren't goofed I can look past any choice omissions that might be made with the film series.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 18, 2012, 11:35:00 PM
Walter, I do enjoy my life.

Yeah, Aazealh's point was that you're being blissfully ignorant, and you kindly proved him right by not even knowing who you're talking to.

My standards aren't lacking trying to assume so is naive. I just appreciate art (animation) than you with a better understanding of the reality film making.

It's not naive on our parts if one acts like a blindly enthusiastic simpleton, babbling about how the movie they haven't seen is the best thing ever and they'll like it no matter what or whatever other hyperbole one wants to speak in for lack of a measured thought. Oh well, I guess that makes us the naive ones. *shrug*

I can accept these films do knowing Kentarou consented them.

Yeah, funny thing how the word consensual only comes up when there's rape. :troll:

And really name a better animated film you can't

Truly, you have a dizzying appreciation of art and understanding of the reality of filmmaking.

I know, I realize that it sucks but marketing is what it is.

Predatory business practices should reflect poorly on the perpetrators, though.

Sorry Walter and aazealh I was at work on a break, and using my phone.

Thanks, the thought and effort was already self-evident.

"happy to get any anime" was basically saying its better than none.

Not necessarily true.

Ive also only talked about the quality of the cg animation, not if its true to the manga..... I rest at this is the best cg anime yet

That's quite retreat from being the best animated film ever. Did you see another 15 second clip we're not aware of?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 18, 2012, 11:53:36 PM
Yea good for you try and make me out to be the village idiot. Last i checked this site was for beserk fans not haters. And your pm griffith makes you laughable.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 19, 2012, 12:00:12 AM
Yea good for you try and make me out to be the village idiot. Last i checked this site was for beserk fans not haters.

I didn't make you look like an idiot, you made you look like an idiot. Also, wrong again, this site has always been for haters. =)

And your pm griffith makes you laughable.

Well, if the whole thing isn't supposed to be kind of laughable then it wouldn't be any fun. :griffnotevil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idBhoV01ryo


Anyway, on a general note, this whole "it's the professional filmmaking process" passive acceptance trope is getting annoying. Is this what everyone would say if Berserk were being adapted into a live action Hollywood movie? "They're professional filmmakers!" "They know better!" "They can do no wrong." Yeah, everything made by professional filmmakers is great. Apparently all the best ones are working on anime in Japan.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 19, 2012, 12:08:23 AM
Last off griffith you saying not getting a anime is better than getting one is beyond me. Keep on with your lil baby shit talk. I can at least say I'm a fan of berserk and these films are awesome! Sorry for all your hate,  your opinion means nothing the films will still come out me and many other fans will happy and you sit and cry about your own hate
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 19, 2012, 01:27:30 AM
Topic...

Unless I missed it, there is no album length information... I was curious to know that as pointless as it can be. I kinda love the cover background too..
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 19, 2012, 01:39:41 AM
Last off griffith you saying not getting a anime is better than getting one is beyond me. Keep on with your lil baby shit talk. I can at least say I'm a fan of berserk and these films are awesome! Sorry for all your hate,  your opinion means nothing the films will still come out me and many other fans will happy and you sit and cry about your own hate

Yes, I'm clearly the emotionally distraught one engaging in "lil baby shit talk." I'm starting to like you. =)

Anyway, the last opinion I gave specifically on my probable enjoyment of the the movies was that I'll see them no matter what and am fully prepared to reverse course, ultimately reserving final judgement. That's pretty reasonable, far more than the assertion that they're awesome no matter what and are the best animated films ever that we've never seen. I'm just trying to look at it a little more objectively than that, so I'm not going to ignore what I see as wrong with it just so I can pretend to live in a false world of "awesome." And my voice IS in the minority here, which is fine, but doesn't mean I'm not going to speak up to be heard over the crowd.

Also, when I said no anime wasn't necessarily worse than any anime, it's because I don't want any anime and don't think so highly of it in general. I don't like anime more than I like Berserk specifically. If as an anime it turns out to be a hacky bunch of crap then it doesn't do Berserk a great service in my opinion. The fact that this is beyond you suggests to me that you, like many others, are more about anime than Berserk and that somehow Berserk being made into anime of any kind is some elevation of it or the telos of the entire series. As if Miura's only done the sketches and now we're finally getting the REAL THING: ANIME!!! ^____^

Well, needless to say, I completely disagree with that mentality. It's almost a separate issue of people that are just into their anime. I've wondered before, when people read "Berserk anime" are they more excited for Berserk or anime? Which is why in the same breath they'll defend this movie they haven't seen to the death as the best anime ever while disregarding the manga's importance to it ("whatever, nitpicking, sacrifices have to be made for anime!").

Since I'm not particularly into anime or manga anymore beyond Berserk and Vagabond, I might have a different perspective. I don't think Miura, Berserk, or its fans are lucky Berserk is being made into an another anime, like this finally validates it. Rather, these guys are fortunate to have the opportunity to adapt it, and so they better do a good job. It's a tremendous opportunity actually, and I don't want to see go to waste or turned into just another anime series, to be immediately consumed and disposed of.

I'm not grateful for it either. I was fine with just the manga, Berserk IS the manga, or to distance it even further from the cult of anime/manga, it's the story. So, when people imply that this is what they've been waiting for all along, like the manga was just a stopgap, they're clearly not the Berserk fans they think they are for riding the bandwagon on the latest anime in their download queue. So yeah, to not sugarcoat it further, when it comes to Berserk this whole "anything goes 'cuz I don't care as long as I get anime" attitude can fuck right off.

IMHO. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 19, 2012, 03:21:07 AM
I do love anime, but berserk started that for me when I was 13 and first seen the anime. Later I read the manga and thats when I became a true berserk fan. Being such a fan yea I think these movies will be bad ass. The cg anime hasnt been well in films yet. The fact that they animaters have changed minor things doesn't bother me as long as nothing major is changed like puck being a random girl at the bar or wylad being turned into a nobody general. I still feel that these films are opening a whole new world when it comes to animation the detail in the war scenes is amazing having hundreds of movements in every frame. As far as anything goes I disagree you must have misunderstood me. I don't want to see story killing changes. The story aside the cg work is cutting edge.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Lord Leith on January 19, 2012, 04:58:35 AM
I still feel that these films are opening a whole new world when it comes to animation the detail in the war scenes is amazing having hundreds of movements in every frame.  The story aside the cg work is cutting edge.

Umm I know I should probably mind my own business and I don't mean to sound like a bully but I have two things to pick out of those statements...

First of all, "when it comes to ANIMATION, the detail in the war scenes is amazing, having HUNDREDS OF MOVEMENTS IN EVERY FRAME", well someone please tell me otherwise if I'm wrong, but CG counts animation correct? Well last time I remember Computer generated animation covering every frame, was the complete mess of scenes put in the modern Star Wars flicks, it's an extreme example, but I just don't think it's necessarily something to judge the film on, it really doesn't mean anything. So I don't think that's really a good thing. I could be wrong, since this is in an anime film, but I'm just saying, the movements per frame don't really mean ANYTHING.

Well we all know the story is cutting edge, that's why we read the manga, since you know, it's 35 volumes in, while this film hasn't even been released yet, how can you say the story is cutting edge, when we have so little to judge the film on, just cause it's an adaption of Berserk, doesn't mean it will be great by any means. To use an example, I can't say "Oh that Avengers movie, looks okay acting wise, but oh god, the action scenes looks like its gonna be a blast!" When there's like 3 minutes of footage released so far.

I'm not trying to sound rude, infact I myself, am looking forward to the film, I just feel you're giving the film way too much credit too soon.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 19, 2012, 05:18:48 AM
Lol I said story aside the cg is cutting edge. Lol of course the story is epic. And when I was talk about the movements I was directly reffering to the small clips of the war scenes where you have everything moving nothing is left still from the dust on the ground to a background characters attacking each other. I've seen over 100+ anime series and movies and most only would focus on the main scenery. Take the old anime for example in the war scenes you only get movements from main people in a scene not the background characters such are just simple still frames.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2012, 07:48:08 AM
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/11/05/VPCG-84921.jpg (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/pictures/l/11/05/VPCG-84921.jpg)
BERSERK Golden Age Arc I Egg of the Supreme Ruler: Original Soundtrack
Music Composed by: Shiro Sagisu

[...]

Source: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VPCG-84921 (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VPCG-84921)

Thanks for the link! For those interested, here's a translation of the tracks' titles:

01.The Wrath Of God (part II)
02.Here comes Guts!
03.Griffith's Dream
04.Burglars!?
05.Ever Invincible
06.Strong bonds
07.New Horizons
08.The Darkness of the Victims
09.The Huge Beast (part I)
10.Voice of the Devil
11.The Huge Beast (part II)
12.The Sound of Tortured Souls
13.For Eternity (part II)
14.Merciless love
15.Nobles' games
16.Merciless love (piano solo)
17.Blood and Guts
18.Before the storm
19.Blood and Guts (closing credits)
20.For Eternity (part I)

Honestly, given the usual level of French used by foreigners to "sound cool", this isn't too bad. Only track 04 has the potential to be a serious mistake, if they meant it to be "robbers" in reference to the Band of the Falcon's attack on Guts. Other than that, tracks 13/20 might also be an awkward attempt at saying "For ever".

I also noticed that this is only the score soundtrack, by Shiro Sagisu, which means that A.I.'s track "Isn't it Beautiful?" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y) and Susumu's track, "Aria," will be separate releases. Too bad we apparently can't get them all on the same disc.  :sad:

Yeah, I'd have preferred an all-inclusive release as well (like everybody else I guess).

As an aside, that A.I. song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y) is really growing on me. I still don't think it fits well with the scenes it plays along with. But the melody is catchy, and I think it'll work well as a credits song.

Personally I liked it right from the beginning as you know, regardless of the scenes. I like her voice itself, and yeah the tune is pretty sweet. Agreed that it should be perfect for the credits.

I know, I realize that it sucks but marketing is what it is.

You don't have to try and justify the decision, you know. It's not your fault (but it's not like it was inevitable either). :slan:

Sorry Walter and aazealh I was at work on a break, and using my phone.

No problem. It's cool that you're excited for the movie, same for us all really. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't point things out where we see them. There's nothing else to do while we wait anyway. This forum's goal has always been primarily to inform people about Berserk. An endless string of posts saying "I can't wait, I'm so excited, I don't mind anything!" is not informative (nor interesting).

Ive also only talked about the quality of the cg animation, not if its true to the manga..... I rest at this is the best cg anime yet

Well that's not what you said in your previous post, but Ok, thanks for clarifying. That being said, while some segments certainly do look amazing, you can't deny that the level of computer graphics found in the clips we've seen so far are uneven. Meaning some are a lot better than others. And I don't just mean the animation but also the models and textures.

I must say, that while happy that the books are being adapted; It's unrealistic to think that everything will make it to screen. I say this, because there is no such thing; as a 100% faithful adaptation of any source material

No, reaaaally?! :schierke: Do you have any idea how many times this has been reiterated in this thread or the previous one? Nothing against you personally, but we don't need every new member to repeat the same stuff continuously when it doesn't even relate to the discussion. And I commend the use of semicolons, but please try to properly construct your sentences.

you always have the extended cut to look forward to on DVD.

That's just a supposition on your part.

All I'm interested in so far as "The Golden Age" is concerned is that the Director respectfully handled: Griffith's Rise & Fall, The Band of the Hawk, The Griffith, Guts, & Casca Triangle, and the Carnival. As long as those sequence of events aren't goofed I can look past any choice omissions that might be made with the film series.

That's an extremely vague list, but whatever. Like I told Gnomeking, if that's what your standards are then good for you.

Last i checked this site was for beserk fans not haters.

It's only for the fans who can (and care to) spell "Berserk" correctly. :casca:

The fact that they animaters have changed minor things doesn't bother me as long as nothing major is changed like puck being a random girl at the bar or wylad being turned into a nobody general.

Puck is not the movies because they decided not to feature the Black Swordsman arc (and Colette wasn't exactly a random girl either), and Wyald is not guaranteed to be in there at all for now.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 19, 2012, 08:03:44 AM
Thanks for the translations Aaz. I wonder if more commercials might be shown as the date for the movie is getting closer?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 19, 2012, 08:30:13 AM
 NO forces : (
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 19, 2012, 11:33:16 AM
I wonder whats the point of using French words in these titles ? Using Latin in songs is ok, its casual, but French is kinda awkward you know
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2012, 12:14:11 PM
I wonder if more commercials might be shown as the date for the movie is getting closer?

It'll be advertized of course but not necessarily on TV. I haven't been following the Twitter accounts much these days though, so I can't confirm it to you.

NO forces : (

You can't be serious.

I wonder whats the point of using French words in these titles ? Using Latin in songs is ok, its casual, but French is kinda awkward you know

Probably supposed to sound cool. Same thing with using Latin (I don't see how it's "casual"?) or English. To Japanese people it's exotic.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 19, 2012, 12:39:56 PM
As an aside, that A.I. song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHDVGT2AD5Y) is really growing on me. I still don't think it fits well with the scenes it plays along with. But the melody is catchy, and I think it'll work well as a credits song.

I second this. The track is growing on me.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on January 19, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
Niiiice, thanks a lot for translating the song titles Aaz! Seems a bit odd that they'd have The Wrath Of God (part II) without a part I. Also, usually albums have part I's before part II's so seeing For Eternity seems a bit odd (only to me :farnese:), then again maybe they did that so the songs flow better when you're listening to the whole soundtrack.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 19, 2012, 04:07:11 PM
facebook update.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393987_299740173410708_197046067013453_917625_792493394_n.jpg) :ganishka:
For those who were asking, :griffnotevil: 's drink is White Cocoa, and :guts: drink is a Dry Ginger Ale.  

The drinks are available at a Berserk Cafe in Shinijuku, where they also have some Berserk memorabilia on display, like these AoW God Hand figures: https://twitter.com/#!/berserk_project/status/159998405698007040/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/#!/berserk_project/status/159998405698007040/photo/1)

The official Berserk Twitter account claims that this particular set was borrowed from Miura's home.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
The drinks are available at a Berserk Cafe in Shinijuku, where they also have some Berserk memorabilia on display, like these AoW God Hand figures: https://twitter.com/#!/berserk_project/status/159998405698007040/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/#!/berserk_project/status/159998405698007040/photo/1)

The official Berserk Twitter account claims that this particular set was borrowed from Miura's home.

Whoa, a Berserk Café? Neat! I wish there were more pictures of the place.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 19, 2012, 06:48:31 PM
I'm definitely going to buy all 3 CDs.  I've been listening to AI's other songs on youtube, and they are all quite catchy J-Pop.  I dig her voice, and I really love women with low voices... please don't take that out of context :slan:  Hehe.

On a side note, it seems that from some recent tweets, at the live preview event that happened recently, I believe Miura phoned in and spoke for 10 minutes???  Seems unlike him... but that is what I've gathered by some of the tweets.  Dunno if it was Q&A style or what, but that must have been so cool to hear!



Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2012, 06:56:41 PM
I'm definitely going to buy all 3 CDs.  I've been listening to AI's other songs on youtube, and they are all quite catchy J-Pop.  I dig her voice, and I really love women with low voices... please don't take that out of context :slan:  Hehe.

Already preordered. :slan:

Also I'm totally taking that comment out of context. :iva:

On a side note, it seems that from some recent tweets, at the live preview event that happened recently, I believe Miura phoned in and spoke for 10 minutes???  Seems unlike him... but that is what I've gathered by some of the tweets.  Dunno if it was Q&A style or what, but that must have been so cool to hear!

Can you show me the tweets in question?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gnomeking on January 19, 2012, 07:11:12 PM
Forces is one of my favorites, leave your negative comments to yourself.

The cafe is sweet, but can you order the glasses anywhere or are they cafe exclusive?

Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 19, 2012, 07:13:12 PM
Already preordered. :slan:  Also I'm totally taking that comment out of context. :iva:

:beast:

Can you show me the tweets in question?

Sure, here are some of them:

Quote
Clara_de_Porras クララ・ド・ポラス
吉田さん、お疲れさまでしたっ! RT @yoshidahisanori: ベルセルク映画版のニコ生終了!!あの作画量で10秒、とか、マンガのベルセルクの生原稿とか、見どころあり過ぎだったよ!しかし三浦建太郎先生、 本当にプレミアム会員で、アイマス見てて千早押しとはw
7 hours ago

Clara_de_Porras クララ・ド・ポラス
こんばんは、クララです!三浦先生~見てますか?? nico.ms/lv75949877#1:5… #berserknama
8 hours ago

berserk_project ベルセルク公式ツイッター
三浦先生、電話で登場!"@Clara_de_Porras: こんばんは、クララです。ニコ生放送まであと20分♪→映画『ベルセルク』完成披露試写会&まったりウラ実況!~窪岡監督&プロデューサー達の座談会! live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv759498…
8 hours ago
Retweeted by Clara_de_Porras

Clara_de_Porras クララ・ド・ポラス
三浦先生にコメントしてみようかしら…
8 hours ago

Clara_de_Porras クララ・ド・ポラス
そういえば、三浦建太郎先生もプレミアム会員だそうですわ(´-`).oO #berserknama
10 hours ago

Via google translate:

Quote
Kuraradoporasu Clara_de_Porras
Mr. Yoshida, lust to be tired! RT @ yoshidahisanori: Nico's life ends the movie version Berserk! ! Illustrating that in amounts of 10 seconds, Toka, Toka Berserk manga raw manuscript, and there were attractions too! Dr. Kentarou Miura, but really a premium membership, you look fit and Chihaya press the w
7 hours ago

Kuraradoporasu Clara_de_Porras
Good evening, and Clara! Do you watch - Dr. Miura? ? nico.ms/lv75949877 # 1:5 ... # berserknama
8 hours ago

Official Twitter berserk_project Berserk
Mr. Miura, appeared in the phone! "@ Clara_de_Porras: Good evening, and Clara. Movie to live for another 20 minutes Niko ♪ →" Berserk "live preview and showcase finished back chillin! Our symposium director and producer hill Kubo ~! Live. nicovideo.jp/watch/lv759498 ...
8 hours ago
Retweeted by Clara_de_Porras

Kuraradoporasu Clara_de_Porras
Let's comment on Mr. Miura, I wonder ...
8 hours ago

Kuraradoporasu Clara_de_Porras
Speaking of, ('-`). oO It is said Kentarou Miura teachers Premium Member # berserknama
10 hours ago
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2012, 07:14:52 PM
Forces is one of my favorites, leave your negative comments to yourself.

Whether it's your favorite or not isn't the question here genius, it's the fact Forces was clearly never going to be part of this OST, and that we've known for months the name of the only track by Hirasama Susumu that will be featured in the movie: Aria. It's an original track he composed for it. In the future inform yourself before posting, for example by reading what other people wrote in this very thread, or keep your comments, whatever they may be, to yourself.

Sure, here are some of them:

Ok, well he was on the phone with the director and the producer of the movie, but it doesn't explicitly say it's in the show. Rather, Clara asks him if he watches it. She also comments on how he's apparently a Premium member of Nico Nico Douga.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Draculoid on January 19, 2012, 07:36:28 PM
I'm quite interested in the song names ! I also agree that the A.I. song is really catchy and getting me excited about other tracks. The fact that they are in French is interesting and your point about it being "exotic" makes sense. I'm currently taking a course on sci-fi in Japanese culture and the Prof talks a lot about how their "otherness" to us reflects right back as far as things we take for granted. Fairly obvious but still  :serpico:

I'm not well versed enough in my history to really know/remember what most of the achitecture and the like is inspired by in Berserk (I know there are lots of different examples) but maybe they got a particular French vibe from some of the settings/themes/characters?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 19, 2012, 07:58:43 PM
Ok, well he was on the phone with the director and the producer of the movie, but it doesn't explicitly say it's in the show. Rather, Clara asks him if he watches it. She also comments on how he's apparently a Premium member of Nico Nico Douga.

Ahhhhh interesting.  Well actually, not AS interesting as I had hoped, hehe.  I do wonder what they were talking about on the phone.  I also wonder if Miura will attend any of these premieres.  I also wonder if any movie goers will go cosplayed!  When I saw the Gantz movie in AMC Times Square last year, there were some folks cosplayed, lol.  It was quite entertaining.

IncantatioN, if the movie opens in NYC, you better attend as SKULLKNIGHT (http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/20111112_113327.jpg)!!!

On a side note, I keep getting more and more excited as Feb 4th slowly approaches, but then I stop and remember... that Feb 4th won't mean anything for us non-Japanese residents.  How and when will any of us see the movie?  Gah.  I hope my local independent theaters pick up this film!  Tekkonkinkreet (also Studio 4C) was released in Japanese in December 2006, and I saw it at a local movie theater with English subs here in NYC in August 2007.  That's 8 months after the fact.  Man... I don't think I can wait 8 months to see this first Berserk movie.  That's just too long...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Draculoid on January 19, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
I remember when the last Evangelion movie You Can (Not) Advance was released in theatres it was pretty much just word of mouth as far as details went for a few days. Then there was eventually a terrible, terrible, video camera rip that some one snuck into the theatre with no subtitles. That was the only way to view it for months I remember and I didn't even bother.

 I'm pretty sure Berserk will have a similar circumstance for awhile.  :sad:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Skeleton on January 19, 2012, 08:26:39 PM
I'm not well versed enough in my history to really know/remember what most of the achitecture and the like is inspired by in Berserk (I know there are lots of different examples) but maybe they got a particular French vibe from some of the settings/themes/characters?

Considering the Official* Map of Midland (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=4545.msg108560#msg108560), I'd say that's a strong possibility.  :ganishka:




*By "official," I mean "completely made-up."
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 19, 2012, 08:27:24 PM
I'm not well versed enough in my history to really know/remember what most of the achitecture and the like is inspired by in Berserk (I know there are lots of different examples) but maybe they got a particular French vibe from some of the settings/themes/characters?

Some of it is of French inspiration, yeah, but I wouldn't say it's predominantly French or anything. Maybe it's because of the hundred-years war and the fact the enemy nation is called "Tudor" (a reference to Britain), I don't know. Honestly I wouldn't look too much into it if I were you.

On a side note, I keep getting more and more excited as Feb 4th slowly approaches, but then I stop and remember... that Feb 4th won't mean anything for us non-Japanese residents.  How and when will any of us see the movie?  Gah.

Well, I've got 4 tickets for the movie, but... No plane ticket to get to the theater. :void: Still, I want to believe that it'll be featured at least in independent theaters in foreign countries within a reasonable time span.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on January 19, 2012, 08:55:46 PM
Well I finally saw a large mention of Berserk on the morning news right now so I am anxiously waiting for it to come out. I will be going on opening night/day, when ever it comes out.  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 19, 2012, 09:00:03 PM
Well I finally saw a large mention of Berserk on the morning news right now so I am anxiously waiting for it to come out. I will be going on opening night/day, when ever it comes out.  :ubik:

I"m definately quite jealous of you right now Saiya.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 20, 2012, 12:54:02 AM

Well, I've got 4 tickets for the movie, but... No plane ticket to get to the theater. :void: Still, I want to believe that it'll be featured at least in independent theaters in foreign countries within a reasonable time span.

If I'm lucky enough Fantasia festival will pick it up in Montreal this summer or next summer.( we had tekkon kinkret and the batman short that was made by studio 4c) (and I have already send the link of the trailer many times) Well, a guy can hope.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 20, 2012, 03:27:41 AM
If I'm lucky enough Fantasia festival will pick it up in Montreal this summer or next summer.( we had tekkon kinkret and the batman short that was made by studio 4c) (and I have already send the link of the trailer many times) Well, a guy can hope.

If it shows up in Montreal before NYC, heck, I will gladly drive up!!!  I have a few friends in Montreal anyways, why not?! :serpico:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 20, 2012, 03:41:07 AM
I hope it comes to California!  If it does come overseas for select theaters im sure it would be showed somewhere here! :daiba:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 20, 2012, 04:32:46 AM
The video site Nico Nico Douga (Japanese equivalent of YouTube, but does a little more), hosted a live stream earlier today featuring a bunch of new promotional material for the movie. They also received a phone call from Miura (!). According to Japanese site 2ch, Miura said that he's now seen the movie, and after it, thanked the director for it. Apparently there was also a short cartoon featuring the God Hand during the live stream. Unclear on the specifics of this. Will post more when I know more.

The stream will be available to premium members of Nico Nico Douga later next week. To be posted here: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv75949877 Premium membership costs about $5/month. I registered one just to get access to the video.  :void:

A few other interesting things posted today by the Twitter duo:

-Movie director Toshiyuki Kubo praying to the God Hand: http://twitpic.com/89ct46
-Sign at the entrance to the Berserk Cafe in Shinjuku: http://twitpic.com/89cxfn

Update: Oh! The video is available now! Watching. It's 2 hours. Will post screenshots of anything interesting. Watch this post as it develops. Right now they're playing a variation of the A.I. song, much longer than we've heard so far. If they play Aria, I will record it.
==================

1min: A.I.'s song plays along with the movie title.
3min: they cut to the long trailer
5min: japanese announcer addresses crowd and press going over the schedule for the event. Lots of flashes. Lots of press.
7min: they say they will bring out some of the cast, starting with Guts, also A.I.
 they come out along with some guys in full armor. Announcer calls it: MIDDORANDO ARMA. (riiight, buddy) (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo4.jpg)
8min: I couldn't be more pleased with the guy they chose for Guts. Much deeper, more resonant voice than in the original anime.
9min: He's talking about playing Guts. They joke about how his hairstyle is somewhat similar.
12min: A.I. talks about Guts. No translation, obviously. She has a much more down-to-earth personality than these other marketing dweebs. It's refreshing.
14min: dudes in armor are looking agitated that they have to stand there for so long
16min: One of the armor dudes steps forward and opens his mask. Apparently it's a cast member, or someome important. Hard to tell.  Everyone laughs at his jokes.
20min: they pose for a photo, and they bring out the DRAGON SLAYER. (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo1.jpg) (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo3.jpg)
22min: It appears the significance of this event is that it's the premiere of their road show promotional tour for the movies. They're going to be doing a similar thing in cities across Japan.
25min: they're wrapping up with this crew. wonder what's next.
27min: A.I. about to perform song live. Will record. (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo2.jpg)
28min: Lyrics in the second verse, in English: "IF I HAD WIIIIINGS" :void:
30min: climax of the song is just after the part where the current YouTube clip cuts out.
32min: Song concludes. They're taking a long break for press interviews.
38min: They've relocated to the cafe where they're doing interviews with the director, producer, and some other dude.
40min: Just realized, they're all drinking GUTS drink :guts: (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo5.jpg)
42min: They're taking questions from Nico Nico users now, and the first one was something about why they chose to begin the saga where they did.  I can only tell this because theyre talking about "hen," the designator for arcs.
44min: Teasing some brief footage from the opening scene. A cannon ball strikes the side of a building, richochets off, hits where citizens are huddled together, debris fall, the walls shake, camera cuts to a shot of the Holy See insignia wobbling in place. Gotta say, pretty awesome. (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo6.jpg)
47min: Talking about how the camera is used. More brief footage shown, still around the Bazuso fight.  This is a snippet of a long camera sweep around Guts. Doesn't look very natural. Very obviously a 3D model they're panning around, while Guts stays mostly stationary. (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo7.jpg)
51min: About 8 minutes worth of nothing so far. Just them talking, and me with no Japanese comprehension.
53min: They show the full sequence of Casca attacking Guts. It's interesting. She approaches him on horseback, Guts has to change his guard because he realizes she has her sword drawn in one hand, and in her other hand has the crossbow aimed at him. So he turns his blade so the flat end faces her to guard against the arrow. Neat touch.
62min: More snippets of footage. This time from Guts emerging from his tent after the first duel with Griffith. :judo: 's carving a totem head.  (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo9.jpg)(IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo10.jpg)
64min: Griffith and Guts' second duel. Casca looks quite young, which is well done. (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo11.jpg)(IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo12.jpg)
69min: Director talking about how they used motion capturing for the main cast during action scenes.
74min: Casca argues with Guts  after their first sortie against the Tudor army. "I'm not the same as I was before!" (conflating the dialogue between Guts/Casca/Griffith's scenes) (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo14.jpg)(IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo15.jpg)
76min: Producers talking about how they worked with Miura. Obviously can't hear specifics.
78min: Remember that scene with Griffith standing on top of the castle, sword raised, triumphant, and how we were trying to determine what scene it was from? Well, it's just a sort of montage as nobles reflect on the Hawks' recent successes. It transitions into this scene, a castle setting, as dialogue from nobles plays over it.: (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo16.jpg)
94min: They bring out the DS and lay it across the laps of the director/producers. (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo17.jpg) (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo17a.jpg)
106min: They're reviewing sketches or production cels, or at least, prototype cels of some sort. Interviewer guy is apparently a big Judo fan. Yells out: "JYUU-DOOOOOO?!" when they come across a folder labeled with his name.  (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo18.jpg)
108min: Ah, those sketches just before are keyframes for what the 3D animators base their models around. Example, they show Griffith's hand holding something invisible. It's because the hand is stationary 2D art, but the Beherit itself is a 3D model.
1:47:40: Miura on the phone. Yep. Actually, one of his assistants answered first. Then they went and got Miura. (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo19.jpg)
1:53:20 Miura really likes dramatic pauses during these questions. The interviewer doesnt seem to know how to handle it.
1:54:42 Miura apparently praises the director, because the guy bows several times in appreciation.
1:57:15 Miura talking about individual characters. Gotta say it's a thrill to hear him say the names of Guts, Casca, Griffith.
1:59:21 Now Miura is talking about the God Hand. Goosebumps over here, folks.
2:00:26 HOLY SHIT, PEOPLE! The producer just whipped out a production print of a page from the upcoming episode.  (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo20.jpg) (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo21.jpg) (IMAGE) (http://skullknight.net/images/promo22.jpg). Also. These things are HUGE.
2:01:01 Miura is still on the phone, just laughing at their surprised reactions.
2:02:15 They end the call. Miura's call was about 15 minutes.
2:04:10 Looks like they're wrapping up the show.

Here's a bit of Miura talking (9.7MB mp3): http://skullknight.net/images/miura-interview.mp3

Yep. It's over. No "God Hand Cartoon" or whatever the 2ch guys were talking about. It's possible that when Miura brought up the God Hand, he said something about this. But I don't know what was said... Thanks for tuning in, guys. The talk with Miura and the reveal of the Ep 326 page were easily the most exciting things. Hearing AI perform the full song was nice too. I'll have a low-quality MP3 of that up here soon.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: NightCrawler on January 20, 2012, 05:08:22 AM
Nice job man :)
Pity i can't watch it live without membership.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 20, 2012, 05:20:36 AM
Thanks for that post Walter! :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 20, 2012, 07:03:15 AM
Thanks so much for the live blogging Walter.  Lots of cool images, and from your description, it seems like a damn good time!  I so wish I was there!  And glad to hear that you liked the clips from what you saw.  I yearn for the day when I can see this movie!!!

And wow, Miura on the phone.  How often does that happen?!  So cool.  And praise from Miura?  The director better bow at least 47 times!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on January 20, 2012, 07:17:37 AM
Thank you Walter.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Gobolatula on January 20, 2012, 07:19:49 AM
Thanks, Walter. Man oh man. Lucky guys got to talk to Miura.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 20, 2012, 07:31:07 AM
Ahh, so the talk with Miura was featured in the show, nice!! Great job man. And that preview of episode 326 looks awesome!
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 20, 2012, 07:35:03 AM
For members only.

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Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 20, 2012, 07:43:41 AM
New Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx20lDGmmyw&feature=g-u-u&context=G265b68fFUAAAAAAABAA
it seems to be advertising an ATM? :???:

Besides the scene at the very end, its all footage we've already seen
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: frankencowx on January 20, 2012, 12:46:44 PM
Thanks Walter. Thats some exciting stuff.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Handmade on January 20, 2012, 02:20:02 PM
That preview of episode 326 looks awesome!

It sure does!

Thank you so much for that, Walter.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on January 20, 2012, 02:32:03 PM
Looks like guts gets his whole body impaled/strengthened by the armor? I wonder how much more guts can take before the armor really consumes him.

On-Topic:
It was really cool imo that they called miura, I heard mangakas dont want that much attention? I mean that they keep to them selfs most of the time...
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: IncantatioN on January 20, 2012, 02:40:54 PM
What a cool way to start today, thanks Walter, I'd hug you if you were next to me. A couple of times. Anyway moving on (!), that totem head looks like Pippin. Man, I wanna try that drink now.

EDIT

IncantatioN, if the movie opens in NYC, you better attend as SKULLKNIGHT (http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee500/Piraancantation/20111112_113327.jpg)!!!

On a side note, I keep getting more and more excited as Feb 4th slowly approaches, but then I stop and remember... that Feb 4th won't mean anything for us non-Japanese residents.  How and when will any of us see the movie?  Gah.  I hope my local independent theaters pick up this film!  Tekkonkinkreet (also Studio 4C) was released in Japanese in December 2006, and I saw it at a local movie theater with English subs here in NYC in August 2007.  That's 8 months after the fact.  Man... I don't think I can wait 8 months to see this first Berserk movie.  That's just too long...
Haha!! Now that would be awesome, wouldn't it!? Which makes me wonder if I can even sit while wearing the costume :farnese:. I don't expect a theater in NYC to have the print for viewing on Feb 4th, that'll be incredible if it happened. Do you have any contacts/ pals in the theater/ studio industry who can give us some clues about it?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 20, 2012, 02:56:47 PM
Here's a clip of the Miura phone call that's apparently available for non-premium members: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16738039

It's just 2 minutes of the 15 minute conversation. Not the most interesting bit either. But still, in case anyone hasn't heard Miura's voice before, here it is.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 20, 2012, 03:19:07 PM
So, what Miura said about the God Hand.

He was asked about them (the announcer saying we don't know much about them), and he said their story would be shown soon enough. But he added that for him, "soon" can often mean a year. Apart from that, he's currently working on the manga's manuscript, and he said he draws around a page per day.

He commented on how he's interested in stoic characters, for example someone like Casca. He seems to have put everything he likes in her.

He also said he saw the movie of course, he thanked the director very much and said he was impressed (by the first battle scene, the shields and swords, Zodd's appearance among other things). He also jokingly added that since the manga is long running, he's making efforts to live long enough to finish it. At first he expected it to end during his 20s, then his 30s, and now he's even prepared for it to last until his 60s if necessary.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 20, 2012, 03:25:43 PM
So, what Miura said about the God Hand.

He was asked about them (the announcer saying we don't know much about them), and he said their story would be shown soon enough. But he added that for him, "soon" can often mean a year. Apart from that, he's currently working on the manga's manuscript, and he said he draws around a page per day.

He commented on how he's interested in stoic characters, for example someone like Casca. He seems to have put everything he likes in her.

He also said he saw the movie of course, he thanked the director very much and said he was impressed (by the first battle scene, the shields and swords, Zodd's appearance among other things). He also jokingly added that since the manga is long running, he's making efforts to live long enough to finish it. At first he expected it to end during his 20s, then his 30s, and now he's even prepared for it to last until his 60s if necessary.
BOOM

Biggest Berserk news in years. Fantastic. Thanks for sharing that, Aaz! :void: :slan: :femto: :ubik: (http://www.skullknight.net/images/emoticons/conradtest.gif)

We got thread page bumped, so for anyone who hasn't read yesterday's information, PLEASE stop now and go  read the previous page. You won't want to miss the recent news.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: jackalj on January 20, 2012, 03:33:38 PM
He was asked about them (the announcer saying we don't know much about them), and he said their story would be shown soon enough. But he added that for him, "soon" can often mean a year. Apart from that, he's currently working on the manga's manuscript, and he said he draws around a page per day.

So that could mean, over a year we will finally reach Elfhelm and the King of the Flower Storm will tell Guts and his party about the Godhand?? Since the King of the Flower Storm is likely the only really interesting character that might know about them that Guts and his party will run into for awhile... I'm sure I am very wrong.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 20, 2012, 03:36:01 PM
So that could mean, over a year we will finally reach Elfhelm and the King of the Flower Storm will tell Guts and his party about the Godhand?? Since the King of the Flower Storm is likely the only really interesting character that might know about them that Guts and his party will run into for awhile... I'm sure I am very wrong.
It's the easy conclusion to make, but the revelation could also come from any number of different ways. The Skull Knight, for example. Or it could be a narratively open side-story Chapter, like how Miura handled Serpico and Farnese's backstory in Snow, Flames 1-2.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: hellrasinbrasin on January 20, 2012, 04:02:24 PM
I wouldn't be surprised, at all if The God Hand Origin Arc; is narrated by both the King of the Flower Storm and Skull Knight since those would be the oldest beings to have
that information. Nor would I be surprised if it spans more than 10 episodes.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Oburi on January 20, 2012, 04:39:21 PM
Wow I was not expecting that. God Hand story? I had actually put it out of me mind, assuming that if it ever was shown, it would a long long time. To think we could get it in no less than a year (in Berserk time that's nothing) is too much. Really incredible news. Made my day.  :guts:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on January 20, 2012, 05:11:17 PM
He was asked about them (the announcer saying we don't know much about them), and he said their story would be shown soon enough. But he added that for him, "soon" can often mean a year. Apart from that, he's currently working on the manga's manuscript, and he said he draws around a page per day.
Amazing, i couldn't believe my eyes when i first saw that. Thank you for the translation Aazealh.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 20, 2012, 05:38:33 PM
So that could mean, over a year we will finally reach Elfhelm and the King of the Flower Storm will tell Guts and his party about the Godhand??

Could also be the Skull Knight, like Walter said (they are likely acquainted :slan:), or we could simply see more of them as they take their new quarters in the world (and we wouldn't have to wait until Guts' party reaches Elfhelm, it could happen during a cut right after the Sea God battle is wrapped up). It could go down many different ways (and it won't necessarily be an origin story, actually). As long as we see more of them though, I'll be happy. :void:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Draculoid on January 20, 2012, 06:34:37 PM
Wow really cool update! Looks like Guts isn't down for the count quite yet in the new Berserk episode. Obviously this isn't happening yet but it's almost making me think of what a Skull Knight transformation might look like  :SK:

As far as the God Hand news that's fantastic! If he actually just confirmed more explanation on them in the next year I will be thrilled. Unfortunately the wording was vague enough that I feel it might take a little longer but the important part is he confirmed it's coming soon !  :slan:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 20, 2012, 09:26:42 PM
I couldn't figure out how to see the video with Miura on the phone :sad:. Do you need to have an account?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Joe Chip on January 20, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
Do you need to have an account?
Yes, it's available only for registered members. Walter mentioned it before.

Here's a clip of the Miura phone call that's apparently available for non-premium members
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Truder on January 20, 2012, 09:33:49 PM
Woops. Thanks!  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Rhombaad on January 20, 2012, 10:24:24 PM
Thanks for live-posting that video stream, Walter! And thank you for the summary of what Miura was talking about, Aazealh! Great news all around, and I'm glad to hear that Miura enjoyed the film.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 21, 2012, 05:35:32 AM
Fantastic work, Wally. You and Aaz are our very own Woodward and Berserkstein; it's just a matter of time before YOU get Miura on the phone. I think my favorite tidbit was what Aaz shared about him thinking it would end in his 20's but becoming his life's work in a very realized sense. Also, it's hard not to get caught up in the hoopla of the new movies when the man himself is personally giving his blessing.

As for the potential God Hand bombshell... Wow. I just hope Miura wasn't using a year merely as an example of what he considers a short time. Otherwise, it could still be a few off. :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Tabegoro on January 22, 2012, 11:55:32 AM
Only 2 more weeks. If I can take off a day from work on the weekend, I am definitely going to see it.  Anybody else in the Tokyo area going to see it?  They have some ticket pre-order bonus things to grab that look kind of neat.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Syaoran on January 23, 2012, 02:20:48 AM
Only 2 more weeks. If I can take off a day from work on the weekend, I am definitely going to see it.  Anybody else in the Tokyo area going to see it?  They have some ticket pre-order bonus things to grab that look kind of neat.

Waiting for so long didn't think that couple weeks would hurt so much
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 23, 2012, 04:40:44 PM
Do you know when Corcus and Pippin interviews are going to be available ?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 23, 2012, 05:05:07 PM
A five-minute featurette was posted on  Nico Nico today, featuring tons of new footage of the movie: http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16769376  OR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNZNCd62XLc

(http://skullknight.net/images/promo25.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/promo26.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/promo23.jpg)

There's at least two-three minutes worth of new stuff in there. Also, a new segment of Aria can be heard in the background at around a minute in, and it's awesome.

You may need a membership to Nico Nico to view it. Unsure. But if you really want to be following the trailers and videos as they come out, you should probably get one. Non-premium memberships are free.

PS: The sound the (http://skullknight.net/images/beherit_02d.gif) makes... I really hope that's just something they threw in this featurette, because it sounds literally like an underwater fart. (http://skullknight.net/images/beherit-fart.mp3)
PPS: Hmm... underwater fart? (屁水中) It might not be far from the truth!  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: voodoo_sh on January 23, 2012, 05:30:45 PM
we can watch here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNZNCd62XLc  :ubik:
thx Walter this trailer was fucking awesome!!  :ubik:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Aazealh on January 23, 2012, 06:13:36 PM
A five-minute featurette was posted on  Nico Nico today, featuring tons of new footage of the movie: http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm16769376

Neat, thanks for the link. I wish they'd have taken a less dramatic approach to Griffith jumping on Guts' sword during their second fight. Makes it look like he's jumping 5 meters high. Same goes for the dust blow away by Zodd's wings, you'd think he's a helicopter or something.

Also, a new segment of Aria can be heard in the background at around a minute in, and it's awesome.

Not my favorite from Hirasawa, to be perfectly honest.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: DirectDK on January 23, 2012, 06:59:45 PM
SUGOI!!!!  It looks gorgeous!!!  Really diggin' all the new footage in this featurette!  Too bad the video/audio quality is so shoddy in this vid, hopefully berserkfilmtv will post a higher quality one.

The Zodd fight and the Guts/Griffith Duel look fantastic.  Yeah, the Griffith-jumping-on-the-sword part was quite over the top, but it didn't bother me.  The bromance undertones were quite heavy, I must say, but I'm down with that!  No other bromance quite like theirs!  :guts: :griffnotevil:

I think Aria sounds wonderful, but agreed it's not my favorite Hirasawa piece.  But, I was really blown away by that segment of the video.  I know people are tired of the word "epic", but I gotta say, Hirasawa makes shit EPIC! =)

Man... this was really welcomed footage.  This movie is gearing up big time!!!

PS That Beherit fart was indeed horrendous, lol.  They used a different sound for it in the first trailer which sounds fine.  That one still sounds moist and all, but not like a fart. :ganishka:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Griffith on January 23, 2012, 07:39:08 PM
That was pretty cool, I really enjoyed a lot of what I saw, even the weird CGI/video gamey portions were lively looking at least, and when the CGI totally worked, yowza! Pretty exciting stuff, especially if you look at like a big Berserk music video or event.

Neat, thanks for the link. I wish they'd have taken a less dramatic approach to Griffith jumping on Guts' sword during their second fight. Makes it look like he's jumping 5 meters high.

That was ridiculous, with Guts looking around like he literally had no idea where Griffith went (although he did practically leap into the stratosphere) and couldn't sense him either? I guess Guts is just not a very good fighter in this adaptation. =)

Yeah, the Griffith-jumping-on-the-sword part was quite over the top, but it didn't bother me.

That phrase has become a real panacea for everything in this thread. Does it work both ways? Can one like something and still be bothered by it without violating the laws of mutual exclusivity? :iva:

Same goes for the dust blow away by Zodd's wings, you'd think he's a helicopter or something.

I liked it and thought it was appropriate for dramatic effect... but it did bother me! :troll:
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: ApostleBob on January 23, 2012, 08:02:05 PM
Well, at least we can now say with a fair amount of certainty that some of the footage in the 15 second promos last year was either unfinished or a prototype for the CG models.  The Zodd's horns and his exit out of the castle are completely different. 

I wonder if the other scene's will be different as well.  Skull Knight, and Casca in the cave might not be accurate representations anymore.  From what I can glean, those scenes will be in the following films though, so we'll have to wait.  The snow duel has been pretty consistent in the promos though.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 23, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
I wonder if the other scene's will be different as well.  Skull Knight, and Casca in the cave might not be accurate representations anymore.  From what I can glean, those scenes will be in the following films though, so we'll have to wait. 
Speaking of where this film ends, a Japanese press site today posted a story  (http://anime.pia.jp/feature/berserk/index.html)featuring a photo gallery of shots taken of the movie. They're apparently in sequence, so this gives us a good understanding of where the movie begins and ends.

(http://skullknight.net/images/moviepreview1-small.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/moviepreview1.jpg)
(Click to enlarge)
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: hellrasinbrasin on January 23, 2012, 08:21:12 PM
So its a given, that film 1 is to cover; Volume(s) 4 - 6 1/2.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Walter on January 23, 2012, 08:24:15 PM
So its a given, that film 1 is to cover; Volume(s) 4 - 6 1/2.
Yep. That's been the assumption for a while now. But these pictures lend credence to the theory.
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: ApostleBob on January 23, 2012, 08:38:17 PM
Not to be a nitpicker Walter, but this has to be a little out of sequence or else someone's really messing with the timeline.

Check out the picture from row 2, column 5: a dark profile of Guts.  From what we've seen, this really looks like it's a part of the fountain scene with Griffith and Charlotte.  Odd that it's placed here.

Everything else seems to make sense.  It looks like their incorporating Griffith's back story of how he got the Beherit into a flashback after the Zodd battle.  I guess I'm okay with this as it seems natural for Guts to ask about it after it halted Zodd's attack.  Still though, are we watching the first half of the movie just wondering about his weird necklace?  An odd choice but I understand it.

Also a big omission is implied here.  Has anyone seen any indication of the first battle Guts participates in with the Hawks.  The night raid where he's the rear guard?  The lack of footage for it and the movement of the Beherit scene tells me it might be gone or combined with the Black Ram battle.  
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 23, 2012, 09:21:01 PM
For some reason I am hopeful that movie # 2 will provide more information on Guts Childhood. I think I remember it is predicted to have a longer runtime than movie #1, but doesn't movie #2 have enough content from books 6 - 8 to cover on it's own..? Or do others also feel like it may have the wriggle room to provide more backstory?
Title: Re: Berserk Saga Project News
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