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Title: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on November 05, 2011, 02:53:21 PM
Dark Souls.

Ladies and gentleman, which of you are delving into this?

I began last night. It's gorgeous and plays noticeably smoother than it's predecessor. Opted to start as a female Knight since my character in DS was male. :slan: I spent around 15-20 minutes making my character actually look good. The game begins and cue me saying, "Oh, she's undead." :ganishka:

Is it just me, but does anyone else miss the Nexus? I feel like I'm going to get very lost in this game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on November 05, 2011, 03:49:48 PM
At last!

Anyway, I'm also currently playing the game as you know. Don't worry, the world isn't all that big, you won't get lost.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: jackalj on November 05, 2011, 04:21:10 PM
any tips on special weapons? farm spots, etc.? I already have the drake sword. but i need dragon scale (drake scales?) to upgrade it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on November 05, 2011, 04:50:52 PM
Finally a thread. I stopped playing after I defeated the Gaping Dragon and had a bit of trouble in Blighttown but I'll be picking it up again soon hopefully.
any tips on special weapons? farm spots, etc.? I already have the drake sword. but i need dragon scale (drake scales?) to upgrade it.
I'm also using the drake sword but I would suggest you save your dragon scales and don't bother upgrading it. Since the drake sword doesn't scale with any stats you won't get any bonuses as you progress so upgrading it is a waste. However, since it still does a good amount of damage for where I am in the game I'm holding onto it for now. But I do need to start upgrading a new weapon and soon. I'm just not sure what yet. I really don't want to waste souls or items needed to upgrade on something that won't turn out to be worth it. I'm using a shield and wielding the drake sword with one hand, but sometimes if the enemies are weak I'll go two-handed. I'm keeping my weight down so I can doge easily. I also have Havel's ring that allows me to carry a LOT more stuff, very useful.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on November 05, 2011, 06:21:18 PM


I just started this today, I rented it a few days a go to give it a try. I liked it alot! managed to get to Blightown for now. I"m playing a female cleric.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on November 06, 2011, 12:02:46 AM
any tips on special weapons? farm spots, etc.? I already have the drake sword. but i need dragon scale (drake scales?) to upgrade it.

The key to getting powerful weapons is upgrading. Any standard longsword can be transformed into something quite powerful with enough upgrades. To upgrade you'll need Titanite Shards (there are many differents kinds). At first you won't be able to upgrade past a certain point but as you progress through the game more types of upgrades will be unlocked. The standard shards drop off Balder Knights, and they can also be bought from Andre of Astora (blacksmith). Keep in mind though that if you haven't even found dragon scales yet, it's unlikely that you'll be able to upgrade a weapon beyond the Drake Sword's damage at this point.

I'm also using the drake sword but I would suggest you save your dragon scales and don't bother upgrading it. Since the drake sword doesn't scale with any stats you won't get any bonuses as you progress so upgrading it is a waste. However, since it still does a good amount of damage for where I am in the game I'm holding onto it for now. But I do need to start upgrading a new weapon and soon. I'm just not sure what yet. I really don't want to waste souls or items needed to upgrade on something that won't turn out to be worth it.

Dragon scales can only be used on specific weapons anyway, so as long as you're holding onto that Drake Sword I'd actually recommend you to upgrade it whenever possible. To be honest I find that sword to be completely overpowered given how early you get it in the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on November 07, 2011, 03:19:03 AM
I've put countless hours into this game since it came out. Best use of a $60 game I've bought in a hot second. The Drake Sword is incredibly powerful for the time in which you get it. Pretty much sets the game on easy mode. Personally, I don't think it's worth upgrading as the weapons later on that use Dragon Scales are more worth it. By time it's completely useless you'll most likely have found the lightning spear (weapon, not miracle), at which point you can just poke your way to the end game if you so choose.

Aaz did kind of hit it on the head though. You can make quite a few weapons viable with a little upgrading. Black Knight weapons are particularly powerful, albeit heavy, if you manage to drop one.

Currently, I'm playing a thief assassin type build based around stealth to off my enemies. Doesn't fly too well on bosses, but it's fun for the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on November 07, 2011, 04:06:27 AM
I've killed two black knights with not a drop. Although one of them was incredibly stupid. It's at the bottom of Darkroot basin. I accidentally rolled off the edge and the stupid black knight ran after me after I died and killed himself. I missed his drop which sucked I would have rather took him on.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Viral Harvest on November 07, 2011, 04:45:05 AM
Haven't played this in about a week, but I just got to the Valley of the Drakes. I made it a point to play a sort of completely beast Barbarian (Warrior) class that feeds himself on Strength, Vitality, and Endurance (for the most part). I love the fact that this game keeps you on your toes and leaves little room for error, it makes the series of small successes that much more potent.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on November 07, 2011, 05:24:26 AM


My second day playing it, reach the bell gargoyle. Explored different parts, just to see how they were. Need to level up alittle bit for now.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on November 07, 2011, 10:20:26 AM
Personally, I don't think it's worth upgrading as the weapons later on that use Dragon Scales are more worth it. By time it's completely useless you'll most likely have found the lightning spear (weapon, not miracle), at which point you can just poke your way to the end game if you so choose.

Hmm, I don't know about that. I think you find some scales relatively early on (one in Blighttown, one from the Zombie Dragon in Valley of Drakes, plus the Hydra in Darkroot Basin) and that can help until you get to Sen's Fortress and find the Lightning Spear. Besides they can always be farmed later on if needed. But yeah it's not vital to upgrade it or anything.

I've killed two black knights with not a drop. Although one of them was incredibly stupid. It's at the bottom of Darkroot basin. I accidentally rolled off the edge and the stupid black knight ran after me after I died and killed himself. I missed his drop which sucked I would have rather took him on.

Hahaha, I killed the first Black Knight you encounter in Undead Burg by cunningly luring him off a cliff. Only afterwards did I realize that Black Knights don't respawn. Lesson learned. It's weird that the other one you killed dropped nothing though. As far as I remember, they all do, even though later in the game it's mostly Titanite Chunks in my experience.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on November 08, 2011, 07:07:12 PM
Is it possible to reinforce the Drake Sword with Titanite?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on November 08, 2011, 08:14:25 PM
Is it possible to reinforce the Drake Sword with Titanite?

Didn't you read the previous posts? The Drake Sword requires Dragon Scales and 10,000 souls to reinforce.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on November 17, 2011, 03:26:39 PM
Good lord. Sif is pummeling me. PUMMELING!!! My bum is so sore, it's not even funny. 30+ times I've attempted this fight. I'm so close to copping out and fighting him like this:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViBmFbvm3RA&feature=related

If I do it that way though, I'll feel lame! Catch 22!

EDIT: I frickin' did it! The real, honest to goodness way! In all honesty, I did give the cheap way a shot. Twice. I was killed before even getting up the hill. It was surprisingly easy once you learn how to move around him.  :ubik:  Magical things happen on lunch breaks.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on November 17, 2011, 06:17:31 PM
EDIT: I frickin' did it! The real, honest to goodness way! In all honesty, I did give the cheap way a shot. Twice. I was killed before even getting up the hill. It was surprisingly easy once you learn how to move around him.  :ubik:  Magical things happen on lunch breaks.

Hehe, I mostly stayed under him during the fight myself. :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 20, 2011, 10:26:50 PM
Just like Demon's Souls, I'm loving every second of this game. Although currently, i want to smash all i own to pieces, because of the four Kings.
Not the ones you visit on your first playthrough, those where relatively easy. But on NG+, I just can't kill them.
I don't have Iron Flesh and my Build is mostly str, since I don't like the cookie cutter lightning/vit builds that everybody seems to use.
I want to avoid help, since I managed to do everything else alone, even Super Ornstein.
Guess I have to practice evading those stupid purple bolts of certain death...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on November 22, 2011, 12:31:18 PM
I downloaded a patch this morning for Dark Souls on PS3 before heading to work. I noticed when I went back to pick up the souls I dopped where I had last died, it read REVIVAL as opposed to YOU REVIVED.

I did some searching (see blow) and noticed that the 1.05 patch addressed as slew of issues, along with translational corrections.

http://trendygamers.com/2011/11/16/dark-souls-patch-1-05-information-complete/

Can anyone confirm if U.S. servers received the 1.05 patch? :???:    It's out in the U.S.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 24, 2011, 10:12:34 PM
Started a new character today because of the patch and have to say, the game did get a little tame. I only played up to the shortcut after Taurus, but even there they smoothed out some rough edges:
The firebomb-throwing guys over the bridge behind the bonfire seem to no longer jump down randomly, making the infamous room behind the bridge less deadly
On to of the tower where you fight Taurus, the archer no longer stands directly at the end of the ladder, making it less tense to exit the ladder without being hit
The dragon on the bridge after Taurus takes longer to spit fire at you when you run across the bridge, allowing you to actually make it to the stairs without getting burnt
Enemies drop a lot more souls
You no longer have to pick up the loot from crystal lizards and black knights, the game gives you the loot like it does with bosses

I've heard 4 Kings and Capra are now easier as well. Somehow I feel glad I could play this game before this patch, even though i like the improvements they made to the online play and item balance
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on November 24, 2011, 10:33:58 PM
Yeah I noticed the drops from Black Knights. There also have been changes to how equipment load is calculated. My character's able to carry quite a bit more than before.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on November 28, 2011, 05:24:59 PM
(http://paulrobertson.mechafetus.com/dsds02.gif)

Has taken over my free time.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on November 28, 2011, 06:01:22 PM
Hahaha, that pixel art is pretty neat! Missing some key "characters" though (and there's a few I don't recognize)!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 29, 2011, 05:30:06 PM
Somehow i want to play a Dark/Demon's Souls Zelda-Like Adventure now...
Really nice work!
(although I think the Capra Demons should be darker)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on November 29, 2011, 06:03:06 PM
Hahaha, that pixel art is pretty neat! Missing some key "characters" though (and there's a few I don't recognize)!

Yeah, it's nicely done!
It's normal if you don't recognize some of them... you didn't played Demon's Souls!  :iva:

P.S. Yeah, yeah, I know! "send me your PS3 with the game and I'll be able to play it!"  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 05, 2011, 05:09:11 PM
Gwyn = Holy hard. Whittled him down to 5% health, then Havel's shield broke and he promptly ended me.  :judo:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 05, 2011, 05:44:18 PM
Gwyn = Holy hard. Whittled him down to 5% health, then Havel's shield broke and he promptly ended me.  :judo:

He's surprisingly easy to kill if you just parry and riposte. Took me a little while to notice it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 05, 2011, 08:28:40 PM
My tactic is to keep a rock pillar between us. Keep circling around it and when he goes for the grab and misses, go in for one heavy strike, raise shield and back off. Rinse, repeat. I only tried during my lunch hour. Fool's going down tonight.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 05, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
I tried a few tactics against him and what I posted is BY FAR the fastest, easiest way to get him. We're talking ~30 seconds if you have a good weapon.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 06, 2011, 02:42:57 PM
Wow. Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5b6cQjqpEk

God, the way I killed him took 10 minutes or more. Oy.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 06, 2011, 05:44:49 PM
Wow. Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5b6cQjqpEk

God, the way I killed him took 10 minutes or more. Oy.

Yeah, like that. I'm more a fan of blocking in the game in general (found a Black Knight shield on the one at the top of the tower just after the bridge guarded by the drake in Undead Parish and kept it the whole game), but in some cases (Gwyn being by far the most obvious one) parrying works better.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 02, 2012, 08:38:46 PM


I just got the Lordvessel. I hadn't played the game in like 2 weeks. Hopefully I can put more time .
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on January 09, 2012, 07:58:22 AM
There is apparently a petition for getting Dark Souls on PC after a response from an admin on the Namco Bandai forum.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/01/06/the-quest-for-dark-souls-on-pc/
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on January 11, 2012, 12:25:21 PM
There's that and there are also rumblings about possible DLC coming within the next three months.  :daiba:

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/121/1216273p1.html
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on January 11, 2012, 06:17:21 PM
DLC? Hm, why not. Not sure it would add much to the game though.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on January 11, 2012, 09:30:31 PM
I'll probably  buy it. As in, I have faith that this DLC will be good enough to be worth whatever it will cost.
The game already has a pretty dark forest, so I'm curious about this new one (assuming it will add some new areas and not just expand darkwood).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on January 12, 2012, 02:16:16 PM
New weapons and enemies are most likely a given. I hope they added a feature to play with specific people. I'll eve take restrictions that you have to be x-amount of levels apart. Now that won't happen sadly.  :judo:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 22, 2012, 06:25:39 PM


I finished the game. I put in about 67 hours in it, from dying constantly at first and many attempts. I only had troulbe with Sif the most as a bosses fights go. I didn't even create any unique weapons, killed most of the none playable characters, and just ended up with Gavel's armor and a dark knight great axe as my main weapon. I might give it another shot with another class.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Turkitage on January 22, 2012, 07:21:53 PM
I didn't even create any unique weapons, killed most of the none playable characters, and just ended up with Gavel's armor and a dark knight great axe as my main weapon.

Doesn't matter, Black Knight GreatAxe (+5) (http://youtu.be/LQm8JVd4YNc) sooooo good.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on February 18, 2012, 07:43:59 AM
FINALLY managed to get back into this game. Just too many games came out at the end of the year I had to take a break. Unfortunately I didn't get that far however fortunately, I was able to pick it up again pretty quick. Just rang the second bell and killed Ceaseless Discharge or whatever it's called. I believe I'm suppose to go to Sen's fortress now is that right?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on February 18, 2012, 08:07:57 AM
FINALLY managed to get back into this game. Just too many games came out at the end of the year I had to take a break. Unfortunately I didn't get that far however fortunately, I was able to pick it up again pretty quick. Just rang the second bell and killed Ceaseless Discharge or whatever it's called. I believe I'm suppose to go to Sen's fortress now is that right?

Yup, on your way to Anor londo
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on February 23, 2012, 03:11:51 PM
Finally picked the game up and started getting through it some more as well. Just finished Sen's today. I wish more of you guys were on PSN, we could do some jolly cooperation! Branded, what levels were your characters again?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on February 28, 2012, 01:37:42 PM
Any recent news on the rumored DLC? I picked up the game again to once again try and beat Ornstein and Smough on NG+. I just can't do it solo. I've tried and tried. Help?

I've played a slew of other games since having finished Darks Souls a first time and playing 1/4 of it on NG+. This game really is quality. I tried playing Skyrim, I really did. I won't lie, I fucking hate that game. Hate it so, so much. It may only be because of having been exposed to Demon's and Dark Souls back to back, but Skyrim just cannot compare IMO. Souls is tight and polished and plays smooth when you know wtf to do. Skyrim? Just...no. I was so insanely bored over the weekend, saw the Skyrim box and decided to clean the cat litter. True story.

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Slime_Beherit on February 28, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
Any recent news on the rumored DLC? I picked up the game again to once again try and beat Ornstein and Smough on NG+. I just can't do it solo. I've tried and tried. Help?


Which of the 2 are you trying to take out first? I find taking out Ornstein first the easier route to take
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on February 28, 2012, 02:43:05 PM
Which of the 2 are you trying to take out first? I find taking out Ornstein first the easier route to take

I took out the fat one first to get the other guy's armor during my first run. Now, I want the fat guys armor. :)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Slime_Beherit on February 28, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
I took out the fat one first to get the other guy's armor during my first run. Now, I want the fat guys armor. :)

So then it should be easier the second time around. The issue is landing a hit and that swift little bugger. During my first play through I took him down with a +1 lightning spear (I dunno why I didn't upgrade it) , it was a slow and go processes. But because you can attack with a spear and maintain you shield up, (I used the heavy wooden shield to help against the lightning attacks) then it was a very safe strategy.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on March 30, 2012, 09:04:03 PM
I have a question about the Ornstein and Smough fight. If I summon someone before the fight do we have to clear out that room before going into the boss area? Because I summoned Solair and traversed the fog since i didn't feel like fighting all those knights and he didn't come through with me. If I summoned a player would this happen as well, do we need clear the room first? I've already wasted a few precious humanities on this bullcrap.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on March 31, 2012, 09:43:27 AM
Never summoned anyone to help me so I don't really know. Sorry!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on March 31, 2012, 05:05:34 PM
Never summoned anyone to help me so I don't really know. Sorry!

Yea that's partly why I'm so confused because I haven't summoned anyone yet. I've managed to get this far by meself but these two bosses are so hard. I'm not sure if the lighting spear is the best weapon to use either but I'm nervous about upgrading because I don't want to waste anything. Anyone have any tips on what would be a decent route to go with upgrading? I've a got a lot of materials plus a few boss souls. I'm mainly using a shield and lightning spear with stone armour and with Havel's ring I can keep my weight around 40% so i dodge pretty good. I think I just need to upgrade for a decent weapon but like I said, I don't want to waste anything.

Btw Aaz, if you don't use humanity for summoning do you mainly just use it to kindle bonfires? That's really all their good for right? I've been saving mine for the more difficult parts and until this point I haven't needed to kindle any bonfires or summon.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Cyrus Jong on March 31, 2012, 05:57:27 PM
Yea that's partly why I'm so confused because I haven't summoned anyone yet. I've managed to get this far by meself but these two bosses are so hard. I'm not sure if the lighting spear is the best weapon to use either but I'm nervous about upgrading because I don't want to waste anything. Anyone have any tips on what would be a decent route to go with upgrading? I've a got a lot of materials plus a few boss souls. I'm mainly using a shield and lightning spear with stone armour and with Havel's ring I can keep my weight around 40% so i dodge pretty good. I think I just need to upgrade for a decent weapon but like I said, I don't want to waste anything.

Just to answer your previous question: you don't need to clear out the room before fighting Ornstein and Smough; you and your partners can rush past the giants. Sounds like you're having bad luck with Solaire, though; I was able to routinely get him involved in the fight without killing the giants, even if he would have a slight delay getting past the fog. :???:

Concerning the weapons you should use for this fight, it should be noted that while Smough (the big guy) is weak against lightning, Ornstein (the smaller guy) is resistant to it. If you want to use a lightning weapon, you'll also want to have something else on hand for dealing with Ornstein. He does have a weakness towards fire though; you can get a fire weapon at this point by forging Quelaag's Furysword at the Giant Blacksmith in Anor Londo (it requires combining Quelaag's Soul with any curved sword upgraded to +10). I wouldn't get too bent out of shape over which upgrade path to go; it's a good idea to have a decent variety of weapons in stock, and you can renew most forging supplies in the game in some way. And if it's any assurance, lightning weapons can get you pretty far throughout most of Dark Souls.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on March 31, 2012, 06:05:26 PM
if you don't use humanity for summoning do you mainly just use it to kindle bonfires? That's really all their good for right? I've been saving mine for the more difficult parts and until this point I haven't needed to kindle any bonfires or summon.

Humanities also help you heal if you need to, in case your flask is empty.


What I did for that fight was just to take all my armor and dodge all their attacks. I took Ornstein out first since he was faster. I used the Drake sword. After this, there aren't many bonfire's you need to kindle, but even now in my second game, the enemies drop more humanities than when I first played it. I guess it has to do with that update they did.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on March 31, 2012, 07:47:19 PM
Thanks guys! I was going to make Qualaags furysword but I can't believe I actually don't have any curved swords. I don't know how but oh well. I'll try again tonight.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on March 31, 2012, 10:05:32 PM
Btw Aaz, if you don't use humanity for summoning do you mainly just use it to kindle bonfires? That's really all their good for right? I've been saving mine for the more difficult parts and until this point I haven't needed to kindle any bonfires or summon.

I mostly used them for bonfires, yeah. They're important for Pyromancy as well; some spells are dependent on it. And there are some more uses related to covenants.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on April 07, 2012, 09:06:17 PM
Guys it has been confirmed that Dark Souls is on its way to the PC, the PC version is also getting both gamepad support (a must have if you ask me) and two new bosses.

Source: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469409

Look at the lower right corner.
(http://i.imgur.com/MkxUu.jpg)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on April 07, 2012, 09:51:42 PM
I'm still waiting for confirmation from a real source, but I'll buy it for sure if it comes to PC.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on April 07, 2012, 10:12:31 PM
I'm still waiting for confirmation from a real source, but I'll buy it for sure if it comes to PC.
Same and same. I've been seriously jealous of all the stories I've heard from Aaz about this game. If it comes to PC I will purchase.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on April 07, 2012, 10:29:59 PM
Same and same. I've been seriously jealous of all the stories I've heard from Aaz about this game. If it comes to PC I will purchase.
Hell, I've played and loved it on PS3, but the prospect of new bosses and hopefully a better FPS in some areas leaves me excited as fuck. Not to mention if it's on Steam we'll have a thousand times better online play.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on April 07, 2012, 10:32:30 PM
Same and same. I've been seriously jealous of all the stories I've heard from Aaz about this game. If it comes to PC I will purchase.

You'll enjoy it. The level of detail blew my mind. Gameplay is hard if you play like a moron. Play careful, play slow.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on April 08, 2012, 12:17:13 AM
If I can cross play this with the PS3 and if it gives me a chance to kill one of my annoying co-workers who is a console fan-boy. I will buy this first day.  :carcus:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Truder on April 08, 2012, 12:55:45 AM
I'm going to buy this first day! :guts: I've been playing it at a friends house (on his ps3) and its loads of fun.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Saephon on April 08, 2012, 01:01:49 AM
I JUST bought it for PS3 and have barely begun playing, yet I know I'll buy it for PC too. A game like this on Ultra settings....Oh my. :ubik:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on April 08, 2012, 01:15:26 PM
This guy was in the artbook included with the Collector's Edition.    :mozgus:
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g293/RRomero704/1333891087919.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g293/RRomero704/1333885821299.jpg)

There's been no mention as this as DLC for consoles correct?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on April 08, 2012, 06:20:20 PM
Holy shit, I guess that fully confirms it. From is a great studio, now if only Dragon's Dogma would come to PC...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Truder on April 08, 2012, 06:25:41 PM
now if only Dragon's Dogma would come to PC...
Maybe after half a year of fans bitching about it to Capcom. :void:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: RaffoBaffo on April 11, 2012, 07:54:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PuNbrWAHWE

I'm waiting the DLC for the consoles  :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Cyrus Jong on April 11, 2012, 08:56:27 PM
Hope you like GFWL. (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/11/prepare-for-gfwl-in-dark-souls-prepare-to-die/)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: RaffoBaffo on April 11, 2012, 09:20:06 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/564618_305259969547054_119869331419453_757375_113075776_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on April 12, 2012, 01:02:31 AM
I personally don't like GFWL and I avoid games using it but Dark Souls is an exception for me, I honestly hope the port is good. Here is a petition for a non-GFWL Dark Souls (Although it could need a change in the wording since it reads like an ad for Steam): http://www.change.org/petitions/namco-bandai-and-from-software-release-dark-souls-pc-edition-without-games-for-windows-live#
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on April 13, 2012, 07:56:41 AM
If they decide not to make a patch or DLC with the new content, then, then...I will buy it again...
I am really curious about the controls on the PC though. I know that you can connect a 360 controller, but they have to implement some sort of mouse/keyboard configuration for the people who don't have one. Could be interesting to see how the game plays that way, it might be even harder than it already is :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Truder on April 13, 2012, 08:10:43 AM
If they decide not to make a patch or DLC with the new content, then, then...I will buy it again...
I am really curious about the controls on the PC though. I know that you can connect a 360 controller, but they have to implement some sort of mouse/keyboard configuration for the people who don't have one. Could be interesting to see how the game plays that way, it might be even harder than it already is :guts:
Or it might be much much easier.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on April 21, 2012, 04:46:48 PM


Just finished my second play through with a Pyromancer. This time around I chose the dark. Got what I needed from some NPC and then disposed of them for humanity and items.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on April 27, 2012, 10:38:47 PM
So I finally beat those bastards at the end of Anor Londo (by meself btw. Still haven't summoned yet =). Now I'm back at firelink shrine and don't know where to go again. From what I've gathered there is two options. One is to ignore some npc and go to the forest, allowing me to joing a covenant later. But if I talk to this npc I won't be able to join the covenant but he will open some doors or something?  Not sure what the best move is here?

Edit- Nevermind. I went with the snake guy at firelink. I also did a bunch more stuff including betraying the forest covenant and killing everyone so as to get the items they had. Don't know if I should have done that but oh well. I guess next is to fight Sif? Also I haven't done the painted world or hollow tree optional areas yet. Did any of you guys do those areas? If so, is it worth it?

Also Walter you mentioned you were interested in getting this game. I can't recommend it enough. I put it down for a while to play other games but once I get back in it I remember how much I loved it and much better it is than a lot of other games (sorry Witcher 2). The feeling of accomplishment you get throughout the game is so rewarding. I think you would like it a lot and I hope you pick it up.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on April 28, 2012, 08:48:01 AM
From what I've gathered there is two options. One is to ignore some npc and go to the forest, allowing me to joing a covenant later. But if I talk to this npc I won't be able to join the covenant but he will open some doors or something?  Not sure what the best move is here?

You can buy the key to that door from the blacksmith that's just before the forest area. It costs 20,000 souls, from memory.

I also did a bunch more stuff including betraying the forest covenant and killing everyone so as to get the items they had. Don't know if I should have done that but oh well.

I don't think that was very smart, since you can kill them (and even farm them, as they provide the best XP in the game) without betraying the covenant. The captain is also a merchant who sells rare weapons at the bottom of Blighttown when you're in the covenant.

Also I haven't done the painted world or hollow tree optional areas yet. Did any of you guys do those areas? If so, is it worth it?

The tree I found annoying because to get some of the items you have to drop down onto lower branches and it's easy to fall to your death (if you care about cleaning the place dry). It's a pretty short zone though. The Painted World of Ariamis is pretty cool, good XP, good items, cool place to visit. I'd recommend doing both zones.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on April 28, 2012, 01:42:49 PM
You can buy the key to that door from the blacksmith that's just before the forest area. It costs 20,000 souls, from memory.

Yup. I did that but I find it was kind of pointless other than being an obvious shortcut. I had already searched that whole area backwards from the lake where the Hydra was (I did a lot of stuff backwards for some reason).
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I don't think that was very smart, since you can kill them (and even farm them, as they provide the best XP in the game) without betraying the covenant. The captain is also a merchant who sells rare weapons at the bottom of Blighttown when you're in the covenant.

Yea bad move on my part. Luckily I think I can absolve my sins for hefty price from some npc. Btw, I'm still foggy on what the point of covenants are? I think I've joined every one I came across (betraying the one I was in) to get whatever items they give and for the achievement. Other than some bonuses and online stuff, is that something I really need to worry about?

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The tree I found annoying because to get some of the items you have to drop down onto lower branches and it's easy to fall to your death (if you care about cleaning the place dry). It's a pretty short zone though. The Painted World of Ariamis is pretty cool, good XP, good items, cool place to visit. I'd recommend doing both zones.

Sweet thanks!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on April 28, 2012, 02:18:42 PM
Other than some bonuses and online stuff, is that something I really need to worry about?

Nah.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on May 06, 2012, 08:09:37 PM
I'm about to finish the game as I only have three main bosses left being The Four Kings, Seath The Scaleless and Gwyn and I'm wondering if there is somethings I should do before starting NG+.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on May 06, 2012, 08:26:19 PM
That's pretty hard to say without knowing more about your playthrough (and your goals/desires).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on May 06, 2012, 08:58:54 PM
Oh sorry my bad, my build have been somewhat of a hybrid one which primarily focuses on the melee stats (Vit, End and Str) while also going for Faith and Int. The closest class in usual RPGs I can come up with would be a spellsword, my playstyle has mainly been a melee one where I occasionally use spells/miracles/pyromancies and lightning/fire/magic weapons depending on the bosses and the enemies weaknesses.

I have for the most of the time throughout the game been using Ring of Favor and Protection and while using other rings depending on the situation and the thing I would like to do in NG+ is continue being a spellsword and being able to use high poise armor like the stone armor.

P.S. I won't do PvP that much with this character so is there some things I should ignore while going for a full PvE build.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on May 06, 2012, 09:00:35 PM
I'm stuck on the four kings right now but from what I've gathered before starting new game + you should upgrade and buy everything you can and even kill all npcs for there items too. Also you might want to kindle as many bonfires as possible to make it easier.

I also did a lot of multiplayer last night and I must say, it was a delight. The people I fought were very kind and bowed before and after every battle (even though I got my ass kicked) and I helped a bunch of people defeat such bosses as the wolf Sif and and Ornstein and Smough and the iron golem. It was a lot fun. First time I really spent time on multiplayer. Played four hours straight!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on May 06, 2012, 09:12:44 PM
I would love to coop with someone as I only need to coop two more times (and defeated the area boss of course) to join the sunbros (Warrior of Sunlight) covenant but it seems that everytime i put down a sign no matter where I can't join someone else's world only time it worked where at The Gravelord Nito's place and I have tried at other bosses too. By the way I play on Xbox (Gamertag: Rarasec) and my Soullevel is 75.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on May 06, 2012, 10:12:45 PM
I would love to coop with someone as I only need to coop two more times (and defeated the area boss of course) to join the sunbros (Warrior of Sunlight) covenant but it seems that everytime i put down a sign no matter where I can't join someone else's world only time it worked where at The Gravelord Nito's place and I have tried at other bosses too. By the way I play on Xbox (Gamertag: Rarasec) and my Soullevel is 75.


Well I first layed down my signs I didn't get summoned either but then I figured because I'm sl 65 I should prolly lay it down near a boss that would need people around that level. So as I said, iron golem, ornstein & smough and Sif. Worked for me anyway. Lay your sign near the four kings tonight at around 1 in the morning.  :serpico:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on May 31, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1224905p1.html

Console people will be getting PC content this winter! :ubik:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on May 31, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1224905p1.html

Console people will be getting PC content this winter! :ubik:
Even better, the game's coming to Steam, not just Games for Windows Live.  :ubik:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on June 02, 2012, 12:56:25 PM
Just found out the DLC is called "Artorias of the Abyss", which was easily my favorite piece of lore in the game, so now I'm definitely getting it. :puck:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on June 06, 2012, 12:59:56 AM
Can anyone be a pal and place a summon sign outside of Smough-Ornstein location.  :sad:   I'm on NG+ and just got my game back from a pal who had it for over 2 months. Needless to say, I'm rusty and I couldn't even beat it solo when I was on point.     I'll even make time and play when it's convenient for you.  :casca:  PS3 btw.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on June 10, 2012, 03:04:00 PM
I'm at Soul Level 178 on NG++++ and about to head into the depths for the first time this play through to claim the Souls of the Gaping Dragon.

I bought and played through the game into NG++ back in October/November of last year. Picked it back up after a long break late May and have been trying to bring my int up (Originally focused on STR/VIT/END) to make the most of the game's magic system.

It's been interesting to see some of the changes that have been introduced in the few patches FROM SOFTWARE put out, but I may be running out of steam again soon until the DLC comes out in December. Even on NG++++ it takes a decent amount of time to farm up the souls needed to level up, but I still need to level up more to be able to use Crystal Soul Spear and Dragons Breath magic spells.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on July 01, 2012, 04:33:39 AM


I"m on level 98 and only have Gwyn to defeat to finish the game. If anyone on the PS3 needs some assistance or wants to  play a bit add me on the PS3. TH3branded1 is my tag.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on August 27, 2012, 05:50:52 PM
Anyone loving the new prepare to die edition content?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on August 27, 2012, 06:57:51 PM
Anyone loving the new prepare to die edition content?
Haven't got to any of it yet, but I'm having fun playing with a few friends that just started with the PC edition. :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on August 27, 2012, 07:44:06 PM
I preordered my PC version quite some time ago and I still haven't got it but I'm pretty sure it will be tomorrow and for those of you who already have the PC version or are planning to get it on their PC, I really recommend you getting Durantes Dark Souls fix as it not only unlocks the locked(it renders it at 1024x768 no matter what resolution you choose) framebuffer(?) and forces the game to render on at least 1080(if you get at anyhere more then that then the game will be supersampled or something like that, I'm not quite sure on what it is called). It also adds 16AF(Antisotropic Filtering for those who don't know), there is also a way to add MSAA if you are using an Nvidia graphicscard but then you will have to use the Nvidia controlpanel and register the game as skyrim or something.

P.S. It also adds Depth of Field in the newest version of Durantes fix.

Here is a video on how it might look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTAlZLXAS_s

Here is an ingame screenshot.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/34q79xw.png)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on August 27, 2012, 08:49:25 PM
A better example of the high resolutions possible with Durante's fix: http://i.minus.com/ihVB47Z3eNInj.png & http://i.minus.com/i929cm9FNXGWa.png & http://www.thejayzone.com/pics/dsouls/ds1.png

Pretty incredible stuff. Too bad the framerate kinda blows (at least on my machine).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: frankencowx on August 29, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
How is everyone playing this game on PC? With keyboard and mouse or controller? I haven't played it yet and was thinking about picking it up, but have read numerous complaints about it being unplayable on PC without USB controller?? Is that true??
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Turkitage on August 29, 2012, 12:49:58 PM
those screenshots look great. I really like how they did the Lore in the Souls series. Though, I haven't beat the game yet on ps3. I have been following up with a youtube channel EpicNameBro  (http://www.youtube.com/user/EpicNameBro)and all the story/lore and details he shares about the game is amazing.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on August 29, 2012, 02:18:31 PM
How is everyone playing this game on PC? With keyboard and mouse or controller? I haven't played it yet and was thinking about picking it up, but have read numerous complaints about it being unplayable on PC without USB controller?? Is that true??

From what I have read very few people are playing this with Keyboard and mouse, and that it is far harder to control that way than USB controller.

Also for anyone interested direct2play is having a sale for 21.99$ through tomorrow I think.
http://www.direct2play.com/243-dark-souls-prepare-to-die-edition-pc-game-steam-digital-download-multilanguage.html

Some people have reported that its a bit of a hassle to get it from direct2play but that once you are registered it plays on steam just fine.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/667257-dark-souls-prepare-to-die-edition/63859966
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on August 29, 2012, 02:24:19 PM
How is everyone playing this game on PC? With keyboard and mouse or controller? I haven't played it yet and was thinking about picking it up, but have read numerous complaints about it being unplayable on PC without USB controller?? Is that true??
You will want to get a controller for this game. What I use is a USB adapter that allows me to use an old PS2 dual-shock analog controller. Works fine. The only trouble is I cant rebind the buttons, and two of the placements are weird. I could download third-party software to change it, but I'm just lazy...  :void:

Still absolutely loving this game, guys. I don't want to oversell it, but it's one of my favorite games of all time. I've felt this kind of exuberance for a game maybe 3 times in my life. I've gotten out of bed to play it in the middle of the night, only to be found out and berated by my wife. The last time this happened was 1987 with Super Mario Bros., when my mom found me playing at 1 a.m. on a school night. This game is absolutely amazing. When I'm not playing it, I'm thinking about it.

I also think people too often overstate the difficulty of this game, and that may scare some people away. It's not that it's impossibly hard or anything. It just requires you to learn all of its nuances through experience, not a tutorial. There are no glowing, pulsating red weak points on enemies. But once you learn the basic rules of combat, get a feel for your weapon and equipment, and how to handle each type of enemy, the game's honestly pretty easy, so long as you're cautious and aware of your surroundings. It's when  you encounter one of the hundreds of curve balls the game throws at you as you progress through it that it's truly challenging.

It's that tension and sense of accomplishment when you succeed that makes the game so unique and exciting to me.

those screenshots look great. I really like how they did the Lore in the Souls series. Though, I haven't beat the game yet on ps3. I have been following up with a youtube channel EpicNameBro  (http://www.youtube.com/user/EpicNameBro)and all the story/lore and details he shares about the game is amazing.
The lore and story of the game world is indeed cool. I love learning about it piece by piece, but honestly I think the way that it's conveyed is far too obscure. The game deserves better than that, imo. You have to really piece things together yourself, which of course goes hand-in-hand with the way the other game's systems are constructed. But for story, I wouldn't mind it being placed at the forefront instead of buried in menu-based item descriptions.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: frankencowx on August 29, 2012, 02:29:03 PM
Still absolutely loving this game, guys. I don't want to oversell it, but it's one of my favorite games of all time. I've felt this kind of exuberance for a game maybe 3 times in my life. I've gotten out of bed to play it in the middle of the night, only to be found out and berated by my wife. The last time this happened was 1987 with Super Mario Bros., when my mom found me playing at 1 a.m. on a school night. This game is absolutely amazing. When I'm not playing it, I'm thinking about it.

I haven't felt that way about a game in a loooong time. You've borderline convinced me to get it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on August 29, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
I haven't felt that way about a game in a loooong time. You've borderline convinced me to get it.

I'd also like to point out the obvious, that if you don't already have a USB controller you can get the game on sale at direct2play to offset the cost of having to buy one. However, I would say that this is my favorite game in at least the past 5 years, and its worth so much more to me than even the full retail price.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Saephon on August 31, 2012, 04:19:27 AM
Wow, that's some enormous praise. I'm curious if any of you guys have played the first one, Demon's Souls, and if you can compare Dark Souls to that one? I've played Demon's for many hours on my PS3, and I'm wondering if there's anything that this game does better.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on August 31, 2012, 04:57:08 AM
I have about 210 hours with 3 different characters. I played the first one with no knowledge at all, the second one I didn't know about the second serpent ,and in my third play through I'm just trying to get as much as I can of items
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Cyrus Jong on August 31, 2012, 05:36:22 AM
Wow, that's some enormous praise. I'm curious if any of you guys have played the first one, Demon's Souls, and if you can compare Dark Souls to that one? I've played Demon's for many hours on my PS3, and I'm wondering if there's anything that this game does better.
They both play very similarly, have the exact same combat mechanics, similar penalties for death, and hell, even have the same character development system. If you've played Demon's, then you'll be perfectly at home with Dark. The biggest difference between them is largely in how the worlds are assembled. Demon's takes place in five separate levels that are accessed from a central hub, while Dark takes place in a larger and (mostly) seamless world. It can seem a little confusing at first, as it's not always clear where exactly you're supposed to go, a sizable chunk of the game is completely optional, and it's easier than ever to go someplace where you could get in over your head. But depending on who you are, that could add to the charm. It certainly does for me. Dark Souls is a hell of a lot bigger than Demon's Souls, and in my opinion, has better level design, enemies, and boss encounters overall.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Truder on August 31, 2012, 06:38:00 AM
I'm also enjoying Dark Souls on PC quite a bit (with the fan-made resolution patch and xbox 360 controller).

The game is very fun and im glad that i can finally play it after seeing my friend play it on his PS3.

currently in Sen's Fortress (lvl 52). :ubik:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Saephon on September 01, 2012, 12:07:50 AM
Dark takes place in a larger and (mostly) seamless world.

Sold.  :badbone:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 09, 2012, 11:04:25 PM
Ornstein & Smough -- beat them on my very first attempt. My heart is still pounding. What a fight!  :mozgus:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Slime_Beherit on September 09, 2012, 11:43:04 PM
Ornstein & Smough -- beat them on my very first attempt. My heart is still pounding. What a fight!  :mozgus:

oh wow, thats pretty damn amazing! Congrats. Who did you take out last?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 10, 2012, 01:12:29 AM
oh wow, thats pretty damn amazing! Congrats. Who did you take out last?
The fight was a huge rush. My heart was racing like crazy at the end. I really wanted to be able to knock them out in the first try, and knew that a single mistake could rob that from me, so I was extremely cautious in those final few moments. It was nerve-wracking. The last time a boss battle absorbed my attention in that way was The End in MGS3.

I took out Ornstein first, since he was easiest to draw away from Smough. After that, just whittled Smough away over time. I'm not trying to gloat, because I don't consider myself to be particularly great at this game, but I really didn't think it was that difficult in hindsight. I'd read that many consider this to be the toughest boss fight in the game, but other than that I knew nothing about it. Conversely, some of the most frustrating fights for me are considered pushovers by others. The Iron Golem at the top of Sen's Fortress kept knocking me off the tower over and over and over. I would have him dead to rights, then fail to dodge, so I'd block and get pushed over the edge from the impact. Also, a regular old Titanite Demon killed me twice a few rooms earlier, though admittedly I wasn't playing nearly as cautiously.
 
I suppose a lot of it comes down to playstyle. My guy, GAISERIC, is a dex-heavy melee with a taste for curved swords, now using a newly minted Queelag's Furysword+2. My armor isn't the best, so I depend on rolling and timing to survive most fights. Some others spec as tanks, like Aaz, or casters like a friend of mine, and have less trouble on other fights.

Anyway, in case it isn't obvious, I'm really, really loving this game. It comes highly recommended. As I think I said on the podcast, I honestly can't remember the last time I was this dedicated to a game. It's been a decade or so, I'd say. Also, the game is gorgeous if you have a good enough system. Check this: http://i.imgur.com/8x7d9.jpg & http://www.abload.de/img/screenshot_2012-09-091yshw.png
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on September 10, 2012, 04:09:39 AM
My guy, GAISERIC, is a dex-heavy melee with a taste for curved swords, now using a newly minted Queelag's Furysword+2.

Haha nice.

Anyway, in case it isn't obvious, I'm really, really loving this game. It comes highly recommended. As I think I said on the podcast, I honestly can't remember the last time I was this dedicated to a game. It's been a decade or so, I'd say. Also, the game is gorgeous if you have a good enough system. Check this: http://i.imgur.com/8x7d9.jpg & http://www.abload.de/img/screenshot_2012-09-091yshw.png

Yea its such a great game.  One of my favorite rpgs ever.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Slime_Beherit on September 10, 2012, 04:43:40 AM
I took out Ornstein first, since he was easiest to draw away from Smough. After that, just whittled Smough away over time.

I was too impatient to draw Ornstein away from Smough, so i just used "Power Within" (Berserk Armor effect) and rushed Smough. What a mistake that would turn out to be, Mega Ornstein was one scary dude. I would run for minutes at a time without attacking trying to find that spot that wouldn't get me instantly killed. It indeed was a great fight, all 30 tries of them  :judo:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on September 10, 2012, 07:22:14 AM
Nice Walter! Don't forget that Kellogg's Fury Sword scales with humanity up to 10. So to use it the most effectively have soft humanity on you at all times.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on September 10, 2012, 09:08:10 AM
Nice Walter! Don't forget that Kellogg's Fury Sword scales with humanity up to 10.

It also brings out the tiger in you. :troll:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on September 10, 2012, 02:11:15 PM
Ornstein & Smough -- beat them on my very first attempt. My heart is still pounding. What a fight!  :mozgus:

Nice :ganishka:, I remember that cool sense of relief you get when you beat them for the first time btw Join the Darkwraith Covenant for PvP and since you're going with a Dex build you would end up doing great against most folks and it's a great way to get "liquid" Humanity(the ones that aren't in your inventory) :beast:. My tips for you are that you learn counter backstabs, parry+riposting and master the art of (t)rolling and you won't have any sort of problems against anyone but spammers(Wrath of The Gods or Pursuers for PtD edition) and Hackers :femto:.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 10, 2012, 02:33:29 PM
Nice :ganishka:, I remember that cool sense of relief you get when you beat them for the first time btw Join the Darkwraith Covenant for PvP and since you're going with a Dex build you would end up doing great against most folks and it's a great way to get "liquid" Humanity(the ones that aren't in your inventory) :beast:. My tips for you are that you learn counter backstabs, parry+riposting and master the art of (t)rolling and you won't have any sort of problems against anyone but spammers(Wrath of The Gods or Pursuers for PtD edition) and Hackers :femto:.
PvP doesn't really interest me particularly. I've had the displeasure of running into a few of these troll-gankers in my time playing through. Dueling would be cool if it were something on equal footing. But it never is. Just a bunch of asswipes, for the most part.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on September 10, 2012, 03:42:59 PM
Walter, I love to read your Dark Souls updates. Your sentiments are well thought out and it is as if I were playing through again for the first time.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on September 13, 2012, 10:34:18 PM
Walter, you've inspired me to start playing this fantastic game again. I think I'm ready for the brutality...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on September 19, 2012, 09:33:25 PM
Release date for the DLC that adds the added PC content to the console versions is out:
October 23rd in North America and October 24th in Europe and Australia/Asia.
That's actually earlier than I expected.
Now what to do... I heard that you have to have the godvessel in order to access the new areas, and the only char I have that has this is in NG+... guess I will start over again, not that I would mind  :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 19, 2012, 11:12:21 PM
I heard that you have to have the godvessel in order to access the new areas
Why, that's a mere 25 hours in!  :void:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on September 20, 2012, 03:27:22 AM
Release date for the DLC that adds the added PC content to the console versions is out:
October 23rd in North America and October 24th in Europe and Australia/Asia.
That's actually earlier than I expected.
Now what to do... I heard that you have to have the godvessel in order to access the new areas, and the only char I have that has this is in NG+... guess I will start over again, not that I would mind  :guts:
Yep you need to have that because you need to access Duke's Archive to get to the DLC area. How to proceed spoilers ahead, if you care about exploring/finding it on your own:
Save Dusk from the Crystal Golem behind the Hydra boss battle, then when you have the Lord Vessel go to Duke's Archive and fight a golem right at the beginning, it'll drop a broken pendant. From there go to the area where you fought the Crystal Golem and you access the DLC from a warp there
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: HawaiianStallion on September 21, 2012, 03:38:35 PM
You guys are in for a treat with the DLC, especially Berserk fans. The last boss of the DLC will remind a lot of people of a certain giant sword wielding bad ass mercenary monster slayer.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on September 22, 2012, 09:34:48 PM
That is only the 2nd boss. There are two more after him. So don't stop exploring if you think you've beaten it after him
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 26, 2012, 05:12:12 AM
Blazed through the end of the game tonight, Tomb of Giants+Nito, Lost Izalith+Bed of Chaos, and Kiln of First Flame+____, but I can't fucking beat Gwyn! I do decent damage against him, but his attacks are just devastating to me. Three hits and I'm gone, and I can never seem to find a spot to use flasks safely.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on September 26, 2012, 06:06:15 AM
here's what helped for meI had a good stamina bar, even bigger than my health bar. I used the rock and ran around it until he did one of his attacks and I replenished my health. At what level are you? I was 71 when I beat him. With the black knight great axe. I didnt use parrying, I just dodged his attacks, no armor, I tried speed and the strength to beat him. Took me 3 tries to get his pattern figured out. Good luck!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: mnedel on September 26, 2012, 11:11:56 AM
Hope this helps.
I just defeated Gwyn a couple of days ago. I was level 98. First I tried with a shield and sword (+5 black knight sword and +5 black iron shield with Havel’s heavy armor). I quickly did a lot of damage and almost killed him a few times, but he would break trough my shield defense and kill me with a few swings (and I have good stamina). So I switched to pyromancy (+15 pyromancy) and light weight armor but kept the shield. With my shield up I back tracked to one of the larger pillars in the chamber. I went in circles around the pillar always keeping the pillar between me and Gwyn with the raised shield. He would spend most of the time hitting the pillar and only scratching my shield. As soon as I see him go for a grab, I would quickly hit him with a fireball and then retreat behind the pillar again. Rinse and repeat and 9 fireballs later he was dead and I suffered almost no damage.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on September 26, 2012, 11:45:26 AM
Gwyn's tricky because he moves very quickly and homes in on you with his attacks. And does a lot of damage. But he's got one terrible weakness in that he's extremely vulnerable to parrying. It's how I beat him after trying a few other techniques without much success. Just parry each of his attacks and he'll be dead in no time. It's kind of regrettable because it almost makes him too easy once you figure it out.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 26, 2012, 03:23:32 PM
Thanks guys, but I think the trick for me might just be SUCKING LESS.  :ganishka:

I'll give it another go tonight until he's finally laid to rest. Poor guy... I don't really want to kill him.  :sad:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on September 26, 2012, 04:44:54 PM
Parry his moves and show him who's boss.

I'm on NG+ hanging around the Ornstein and Smough area farming souls for weeks now and helping those who may need assistance with the boss fight. I want to be super buff in time for the DLC.  :puck:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2012, 04:09:27 AM
Beat it. I tried to NOT do the parry/riposte method, because I thought the last boss deserved better. But after 10 tries of being fair, I succumbed and ended his poor life.  :judo: Man, that ending sure was brief! I'd love to talk about the game in more detail on the podcast, but don't want to spoil anyone about it. Maybe we could just talk about it here? Who's pretty well versed on Dark Souls lore? I still can't say I totally understand a lot of the game. I have so many questions still. Does relighting the kiln of the first flame simply repeat the cycle that Gwyn started? What the hell happened that created the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith? The Bed of Chaos? Some of that stuff was just super, SUPER weird.

This game left me totally drained by the end, in the best possible way. It's one of the most unique game experiences of my life. And while it was satisfying, after nearly 60 hours of toiling in a series of nightmare zones, I can't believe they throw you back in a New Game + scenario right after the ending credits. What kind of masochist do they think I am?

The only major complaint I have is that the story feels like a missed opportunity. There's plenty to say about the world itself, but so much of it is buried, having to be pieced together by reading item descriptions and in a few cases, equipping certain items at certain times. That kind of stuff makes me roll my eyes, honestly. Holding back the game's story for the sake of a few a) pioneers who figured it out, b) people who are following a game guide. There's a lot to like, why not let us in on it all?

Graphics, world design, character design, monster types (dozens and dozens, it's insane), these are all absolutely top-notch. There's nothing else out there like this game. It is simply amazing.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: K. on September 27, 2012, 06:12:25 AM
I probably missed about 80% of lore in my playthrough being too busy dying, but have found this video to be extremely helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Balq4yCcAJg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Balq4yCcAJg). This was made before Prepare to die, so that part is missing. The guy that made the video (EpicNameBro) also has in-depth videos about specific parts of the lore, well worth a look.

It's really amazing how deep, interesting and tragic the story is, but they really like to make you work for everything in this game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Cyrus Jong on September 27, 2012, 06:17:40 AM
I can understand your disappointment with the way the story was handled, but I personally liked it. I'm a sucker for this kind of minimalist storytelling, especially in games. The mystery makes everything all the more fascinating and trying to make sense of it from what little you can gather is fun to me. I dunno. :slan:

Anyway, concerning Lost Izalith and the Demon Ruins...after the First Flame began to die out the first time, the Witch of Izalith attempted to use her Lord Soul to recreate a Flame of her own. It...didn't work as intended. The flame it created consumed her, transformed her into the Bed of Chaos, which birthed all the demons you say there. Most of her daughters were also caught in it, which drove them either insane or twisted their bodies (as is the case with Quelaag and her sister). Quelana is the only daughter who managed to escape it unscathed, and she's since been residing in Blightown hoping to one day put her family out of their misery.

As for the ending you got, well the following is just my personal interpretation, but yeah, in a way you could say you repeated the cycle. The Flame has been reignited and the Age of Fire will last perhaps another thousand years, with you burning alive for that entire time. It's unknown if the process can actually be repeated, though, and it's up in the air if this is really a good thing. The Lord Souls are all spent and the only god left to rule Lordran is Gwyndolin.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: mnedel on September 27, 2012, 06:37:17 AM
I like games with a good and developed story. For example, of the recent games something like witcher 2.
As for Dark Souls its a great game but I would have liked more story. Some things you can only discover by sheer luck. The poster above says that the only lord left is Gwyndolin but I killed him so... And I accidentally got the alternative ending. After I killed Gwyn, I went back, out of the room. I wanted to dispatch the knights (I ran trough them on route to Gwyn) before finishing the game. But walking out triggered a different ending. A dark ending but there is speculation on the net that this is in fact the good ending. Have to read up on the lore
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2012, 12:47:57 PM
I probably missed about 80% of lore in my playthrough being too busy dying, but have found this video to be extremely helpful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Balq4yCcAJg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Balq4yCcAJg).

Even though Dark Souls has a fantastic story to tell, if I have to read up on lore through a wiki or a goddamned YouTube video to fully understand that story, I'd chalk that up to storytelling failure.

I'm a sucker for this kind of minimalist storytelling, especially in games. The mystery makes everything all the more fascinating and trying to make sense of it from what little you can gather is fun to me. I dunno. :slan:
I like the idea of it too, and I even have respect for their approach. One of my favorite games is Super Metroid, and the way that game's story and actions are conveyed is minimalist and beautifully direct.

Dark Souls wasn't merely minimalist, it was obscure, treating me like I'm simply not cool enough to know about its favorite indie band. "Oh, there's a god still living in Lordan, but you've probably never heard of him." It wasn't effective at all. I imagine about 5 percent of the people who played this game fully understood the story. That's not a good number. That's simply wasted potential. And while I think there's plenty of room to leave players to hunt down obscure knowledge about certain characters' backgrounds without dictating it like most games do, I think it's a travesty that some of the coolest information in the game—essential knowledge—is shrouded by obscurity.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on September 27, 2012, 03:46:15 PM
I agree on the story part Walter. I hope some of the NPCs had more to say instead of hunting someone else down for it to trigger something, how about beating a boss too. I wasn't too fond of the covenants either, I think there were too many, maybe if they were for specific classes, but anybody could join them all and then just switch to the next one once you got what you wanted out of them. This is nitpicking now, but I would have liked a specific weapon for every class, you know some secret weapon stashed somewhere that used to belong to that class and was unique and no other class could use. Did you check the painted world of ariamis? Finally, which serpent did you choose Frampt of Kaathe?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2012, 04:03:52 PM
I wasn't too fond of the covenants either, I think there were too many,
Not only too many, the benefits were always elusive. They also never explicitly state that you can leave and REJOIN a covenant, which is, ya know pretty crucial information in a game that autosaves on every decision. I stuck with the Princess' Guard most of the game, happily, since I wore Silver Knight armor for everything after Anor Londo. :stalwart: :azan:

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Did you check the painted world of ariamis?
Yep, and I went through the whole thing just dying once (hilariously, too—wheeled skeleton out of nowhere). Not bragging, just saying I found that area pretty damned easy compared to the rest of the game. Truly beautiful though.

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Finally, which serpent did you choose Frampt of Kaathe?
Well, I never encountered Kaathe—never even heard of him until I looked it up—since apparently you can only see him if you go straight to the Four Kings directly after you get the Lordvessel. I did a few other things first (from memory, I did Seathe, Four Kings, Nito and then the Bed of Chaos). It's yet another experience the game gleefully deprives you of for just not being in-the-know enough.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq4iuOoYk3o&feature=youtu.be&t=8m43s)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on September 27, 2012, 04:15:06 PM
Well, I never encountered Kaathe—never even heard of him until I looked it up

Same here. I'll be starting NG++ just to visit him and get all the goodies he has to offer. Does anyone know if I'm in the middle of a game and I download the upcoming DLC, if I'll be able to play if I've already met the prerequisites to unlocking these areas? Please tell me I don't have to start with a brand new character just to see the DLC... (I've spent 178 hours on my one character)I'm hoping I'll be able to access everything and have the DLC recognize which level NG+ I'm on and simply work.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
Same here. I'll be starting NG++ just to visit him and get all the goodies he has to offer. Does anyone know if I'm in the middle of a game and I download the upcoming DLC, if I'll be able to play if I've already met the prerequisites to unlocking these areas? Please tell me I don't have to start with a brand new character just to see the DLC... (I've spent 178 hours on my one character)I'm hoping I'll be able to access everything and have the DLC recognize which level NG+ I'm on and simply work.
Dunno about an existing character, since no one's encountered that particular issue yet, but as long as you have the Lordvessel you should be able to access the new areas.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on September 27, 2012, 04:20:18 PM
Dunno about an existing character, since no one's encountered that particular issue yet, but as long as you have the Lordvessel you should be able to access the new areas.

I wonder if From Software has released anything regarding this? I'm sure it's been taken into consideration. ...Right? :sad:

Walter, aside from Gwyn, what area in the game gave you the hardest time out of curiosity?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2012, 04:23:42 PM
Walter, aside from Gwyn, what area in the game gave you the hardest time out of curiosity?
As far as areas, I'd say ... hm, I think the early game stuff was the most challenging. Mostly because you're still learning the game at that point, so everything seems more difficult. Playing through with a new character, I found it super easy, of course. Ah, I also remember dying a LOT in the Forest because I would try to take on too much at once (Forest Guardians + 3 of those ents, lol). New Londo could be annoying with those stupid ghosts before you learned to be just be very careful around them.

Again, so much of the game's challenge is just getting over the learning curve necessary to truly engage with it. After you become competent with the game's rules and comfortable with your weapon choices, it's a matter of being cautious and smart in combat.

But as far as bosses, the Capra Demon and Gwyn were the toughest for me. Capra Demon because of his stupid fucking dogs that would leave you open to an attack unless you did some very specific, lucky manuevering. And that early in the game, I didn't feel total mastery over the controls yet. Looking back, the fight isn't tough. But at the time, it was overwhelmingly intimidating to me. I died the most against Gwyn (at least 15 times in a row). Iron Golem to a lesser extent, but not because he was particularly tough. I was just getting cheesed by him, even though I was putting up a fine fight. I'd have him dead to rights, every encounter, nearly finished, but then I'd mistime a roll, so I'd have to block an incoming blow and the impact would send me flying 10 feet back, off the tower to my death. Over and over. It was so frustrating that I nearly cried  :judo: In retrospect, pretty funny  :ganishka:

My personal difficulty ranking, in terms of the experience and equipment set I had when I faced the bosses, goes something like this:

1. Capra Demon
2. Gwyn
3. Iron Golem
4. Hydra
5. Sif
6. Stray Demon


Those last two fights required basic memorization of patterns and tells, like no other fights in the game, but by the end of that process they were mere fodder. None of the others were really too tough for me, or made me frustrated. Though I probably died at least once against every single boss except for Moonlight Butterfly, Pinwheel and Ornstein & Smough (which was my biggest victory in the game, as far as I'm concerned).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on September 27, 2012, 04:33:55 PM
I'm really surprised you beat Ornstein and Smough on the first try. I was really using ALL the wrong equipment when I first encountered them. I'm talking over 30 tries man. My hands have never been so sweaty. I only beat them on my first playthough by summoning players and even then, Ornstein grew huge and literally fell out of the room. Read that again. Yup. Some glitch happened and we all stood around in the room doing the idk-shrug to one another, then we saw VICTORY and got the souls. On NG+, I figured out what was what and that fight really isn't so bad. But...on your first try, you got some skill there son.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on September 27, 2012, 04:54:55 PM
Man Orstein and Smough were literally impossible for me without summoning help, I'm so impressed about you beating it your first try! Then again the Iron Golem was one I got on my first try and I love that about the game. With the Hydra I got it on about my third or fourth try with my first character and then it took me a million on my second do to different skills. There's just so much depth in the design of the bosses and creatures and the combat system.

Currently on 1-4 of Demons Souls and having troubles with a certain dragon :/
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 27, 2012, 04:57:11 PM
Ornstein grew huge and literally fell out of the room. Read that again. Yup. Some glitch happened and we all stood around in the room doing the idk-shrug to one another, then we saw VICTORY and got the souls.
:ganishka: I had something similar happen to me just last night while en route to Gwyn once. While dodging the knights, one of them leapt on my head while trying to do a leap attack and goomba stomped me. For a few seconds, his character model flipped out, while my guy kept grunting and taking tiny damage (fall damage from the knight?), then I fell through the world into a mass of trees underneath—YOU DIED. I figured under all that ash would be dragon bones or something instead of just trees.  :void:

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But...on your first try, you got some skill there son.
Thanks, but I don't actually think I'm very good at the game. If only you could hear all of my embarrassing stories of failure that Aaz has heard nearly every morning since I started playing this game :farnese:

I attribute part of the victory to luck—I had some narrow escapes, and used 2 humanity to refill my life (and charge Queelag's sword). I also had read that this was one of the most frustrating fights in the game, so as soon as I saw them, I knew to put on my LET'S DO THIS face.  :daiba: Imagine all the effort you put into a fight over 30 tries, I really put everything I had into this ONE fight, so much that toward the end, failure simply wasn't an option. I probably would have stopped playing the game or something, that's how I felt at the time. In the end, I don't think I've ever felt as satisfied with a game victory.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on September 27, 2012, 05:50:39 PM
I'm really surprised you beat Ornstein and Smough on the first try. I was really using ALL the wrong equipment when I first encountered them. I'm talking over 30 tries man. My hands have never been so sweaty.

Same for me! Although I didn't end up summoning anyone. After about 30 tries I finally beat them on my own. My heart was beating so fast it was truly a great moment.

I was guiding my friend who was on his first play through and by the time he got to that fight I had built it up so much that he was so terrified. He was one of those lucky shits that also beat it on his first try. Yet he did die several times fighting the Iron Golem and wolf Sif, which I beat on my first try. The game is just weird like that. Sometimes you rape, sometimes you get raped. Either way, the boss fights are always awesome.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on September 27, 2012, 06:45:11 PM
Ha. I'm imagining you guys intensely playing this game. "Hey hun-" "NOT NOW DAMMIT!"

I had to tell my fiance this is the only game in the world you can't pause, so she doesn't bother me when she sees it on. (Training early :carcus:) She occasionally sees me die over and over, watches me rage and asks me if I enjoy playing a game that "makes you so mad". I told her it's a love-hate thing.  

PvP in this game. Man, when you find a good bunch to play with, it's really a good time. Occasionally you get the tool who just fucks around. I met one guy needed someone to PvP with. I stuck with him and we were really chopping a good amount of phantoms down. I was wondering how/why we kept getting phantoms. I haven't gotten invaded for months now when playing alone. In fact, as I type this, I can't even see people's summon signs lately. Thoughts? And yes, I try to always play in human form.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on September 27, 2012, 08:11:38 PM
Man, that ending sure was brief!

Old school. =)

Does relighting the kiln of the first flame simply repeat the cycle that Gwyn started?

Pretty much.

What the hell happened that created the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith? The Bed of Chaos? Some of that stuff was just super, SUPER weird.

What Cyrus said. The Witch of Izalith was awesome, but she couldn't control the chaos she'd created.

This game left me totally drained by the end, in the best possible way. It's one of the most unique game experiences of my life. And while it was satisfying, after nearly 60 hours of toiling in a series of nightmare zones, I can't believe they throw you back in a New Game + scenario right after the ending credits. What kind of masochist do they think I am?

What about all the lore you missed?! :slan:

The only major complaint I have is that the story feels like a missed opportunity. There's plenty to say about the world itself, but so much of it is buried, having to be pieced together by reading item descriptions and in a few cases, equipping certain items at certain times.

That's what makes it cool to me. It's completely consistent with the rest of the game. It rewards effort, both when it comes to combat and story. It doesn't give anything away too easily. Old school design. =) That's why I like the game so much. The coolest piece of lore to me has to be Artorias, by the way. Which is why I'm so excited by the DLC.

I imagine about 5 percent of the people who played this game fully understood the story. That's not a good number. That's simply wasted potential.

How many Berserk readers fully understand the story? Ok, that's a cheap shot. :ganishka:

Well, I never encountered Kaathe—never even heard of him until I looked it up—since apparently you can only see him if you go straight to the Four Kings directly after you get the Lordvessel. I did a few other things first (from memory, I did Seathe, Four Kings, Nito and then the Bed of Chaos). It's yet another experience the game gleefully deprives you of for just not being in-the-know enough.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq4iuOoYk3o&feature=youtu.be&t=8m43s)

It's meant to be a secret. You're expected to find it on subsequent playthroughs, when experimenting new things. Same with everything else, NPC side stories (that can be very different ways sometimes), etc.

I attribute part of the victory to luck—I had some narrow escapes, and used 2 humanity to refill my life (and charge Queelag's sword). I also had read that this was one of the most frustrating fights in the game, so as soon as I saw them, I knew to put on my LET'S DO THIS face.  :daiba: Imagine all the effort you put into a fight over 30 tries, I really put everything I had into this ONE fight, so much that toward the end, failure simply wasn't an option. I probably would have stopped playing the game or something, that's how I felt at the time. In the end, I don't think I've ever felt as satisfied with a game victory.

There's one thing to take into account too: you had Queelag's sword, which is one of the best weapons to have to fight Ornstein. I didn't know it at the time of course (and you didn't either), but he's resistant to lightning and weak to fire, meaning going at him with a lightning based weapon is a lot more difficult.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on September 27, 2012, 11:30:30 PM
This game is now 20 bucks I think I will get it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 03, 2012, 12:55:44 PM
1 Shot kill on Gwyn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9la71UI1fs&sns=em

Damn
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 03, 2012, 01:24:00 PM
1 Shot kill on Gwyn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9la71UI1fs&sns=em

Damn
He deserved better....  :judo:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 03, 2012, 05:58:23 PM
Still, you have to hand it to the guy for pulling it off. Pretty certain that was on a first play through.

Just got my Faith up to 30. Sunlight blade is pretty nasty on a Silver Knight Sword +5. Especially for PvP.  :daiba:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 03, 2012, 06:36:10 PM
I'd like to start a character based on faith and dex or str. The guy I finished the game with ended with like, 8 faith. So that whole tree of abilities wasn't used. I pumped nearly everything into dex and end/vit.

Right now I'm playing through New Game+ and just mopping the floor with bosses. Sailed through from beginning to Sif in under 1.5 hours. Even though the bosses are scaled up a little, they're still no match for me at this point... I should probably just start a new character.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on October 03, 2012, 07:47:04 PM
My character right now is Dex + Int. Using the Crown of Dusk + Bellowing Dragoncrest Ring = one shots on almost every normal enemy with Soul Spear or Great Heavy Magic Arrow. Can't wait till I get Crystal Soul Spear. :ganishka:

It sucks not upgrading vit though, I get oneshotted by almost everything, I don't wanna give up those dex/int points though!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 03, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
It sucks not upgrading vit though, I get oneshotted by almost everything, I don't wanna give up those dex/int points though!
Damage isn't super important in this game, imo. You can always whittle down any enemy with patience rather than super-strength. Getting one-shotted is definitely a problem. I think Vitality and Endurance are more important than damage.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 05, 2012, 04:54:25 PM
Damage isn't super important in this game, imo. You can always whittle down any enemy with patience rather than super-strength. Getting one-shotted is definitely a problem. I think Vitality and Endurance are more important than damage.

Agreed. I've gotten my Vitality up to 38. Endurance is at 40. Intelligence is 50. Faith is 30. Most spells and miracles I can use, so I'm trying to get my vitality way up.

Walter, if you're going to focus on Faith in the future, get a miracle called Wrath of the Gods from Reah. It has really helped level the playing field in terms of PvP for me. I was used to spawning and having that done to me over and over until I died. It's nice to be able to fight fire with fire. Also, try and get your Faith to 30 to use the Great Lightning Spear. I feel so badass when I manage to kill an invader with one of these.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on October 10, 2012, 08:22:54 AM
Who are your favorites boss fights? For me it's Artorias, Ornstein/Smough, and probably Sif. Although Sif makes me feel like shit when he starts limping and can't even properly do his spin attack, especially after the DLC content with him. :sad:. Artorias was just exhilarating as fuck though, it's nice to fight a humanoid enemy who is so relentless. It also makes me think of what a Berserk Armor Guts fight would be like. :schnoz:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 12, 2012, 12:35:13 AM
I am finding it really hard to get into this game. I dont know why I really liked Demon souls but just cant get into this as much as I want to.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 12, 2012, 01:34:38 AM
How far have you gotten into it? Where have you been so far?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on October 12, 2012, 10:15:38 AM
I am finding it really hard to get into this game. I don't know why I really liked Demon souls but just cant get into this as much as I want to.

Maybe it's the absence of a Nexus? I know that I had this feeling during the first Moments of the game, that I somehow felt lost and didn't want to press on because of the bonfire system. I was afraid I'd end up stuck somewhere where I couldn't escape from. Turns out this is what you are supposed to feel and after a while you get used to it.
In Demon's Souls I could always just die and return to the Nexus to try another world or go to the blacksmith or whatever.


Currently playing a sorcerer and for the first time ever I chose the master key as  a starting gift.
Holy hell, it's insane how strong you can become before even the Taurus. I stayed level 3 for a long time, just ran around the world getting all sorts of upgrades and items. When I finally got to him, he was down in 3 shots. Now I somehow don't want to level up much at all, just to see how far I can go, but I also want to be summoned for bossfights and that is quite pain when you are way below the level range for a boss... Two weeks till the DLC, hurry up, time!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 12, 2012, 12:17:46 PM
I somehow felt lost and didn't want to press on because of the bonfire system. I was afraid I'd end up stuck somewhere where I couldn't escape from. Turns out this is what you are supposed to feel and after a while you get used to it.
You can almost always just run past dudes to wherever you need to get to. It's not difficult at all.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on October 12, 2012, 02:11:57 PM
You can almost always just run past dudes to wherever you need to get to. It's not difficult at all.

Yeah, that is what I know now, but back then, on my first play through, I was really scared. It got better once I made it to the undead parish.
I pretty much blindly ran away from a baldur knight and just hoped to find a bonfire.
Luckily I took the right turns and ended up by the blacksmith. :guts:
That was when I realized I could just dash through sometimes. Somehow I never did that in Demon's Souls, I always slowly tanked my way through. But then again, in Demon's Souls I would not be limited to 5 (or 10) estus flasks, I could just stock up on grasses and go on forever...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 12, 2012, 02:19:50 PM
But then again, in Demon's Souls I would not be limited to 5 (or 10) estus flasks, I could just stock up on grasses and go on forever...
I think the bonfires are logically spaced, with a few exceptions (New Londo grrrr...). So it never really bothered me. I only ran past guys after I had already conquered that area, and was just traversing from place to place. The scope of your transportation will change halfway through the game, so I wouldn't fret too much over this aspect.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 13, 2012, 12:49:44 AM
I am done ringing the first bell and am alittle lost on where to go next.  I also think your right, the lack of the nexus is alittle saddening.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on October 15, 2012, 04:07:46 PM
You'll have this figured out by now, but you should have key that fits into the door at the beginning of the dragon bridge, where you first met Knight Solaire. If not, take good look around the Parish.
That part had me a little disoriented at first as well. I remembered the guy at Firelink Shrine telling my something about the other bell being "down below", so I went to New Londo ruins, didn't end well...


Just finished Seath with my sorceress. Going through the game using the Dusk Ring (the one that gives more casts but halves HP) is something else. Those boars that guard the entrance to the archives were harder than some bosses, especially the second one, luring just behind the corner. It's getting to a point where everything one-shots my anyways, so I might as well equip the red tearstone ring. I am getting really good at dodging though :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 15, 2012, 06:46:45 PM
That part had me a little disoriented at first as well. I remembered the guy at Firelink Shrine telling my something about the other bell being "down below", so I went to New Londo ruins, didn't end well...
Yep, I did the same, as I imagine many people did. It's poorly explained, particularly because you don't know the layout of the place at that stage of the game, and the guy is basically saying it's "far down below ... oh, but not down THOSE stairs!"
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 17, 2012, 11:23:24 PM
Just got to blight town, The knight at the bottom killed me then went back to get my 40k souls and some how it ended up walking of the edge and dying anyone remember if it drops anything good?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 18, 2012, 02:48:40 AM
Just got to blight town, The knight at the bottom killed me then went back to get my 40k souls and some how it ended up walking of the edge and dying anyone remember if it drops anything good?
I don't remember a knight in Blight Town..? Do you mean Undead Burg?

Black knights all have a chance to drop a piece of their equipment, consisting of a large sword, shield, and armor. I got the sword on my very first black knight kill in Undead Burg. I didn't think much of it at the time, but realized later how lucky I was. It's a great weapon that can suit you for the rest of the game, if you level it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 18, 2012, 07:43:53 PM
Hmm maybe not a knight it looked like the evil cook in the depths. I didnt get to good a look since it kicked my ass the first time and then it killed it self.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 18, 2012, 07:51:07 PM
Hmm maybe not a knight it looked like the evil cook in the depths. I didnt get to good a look since it kicked my ass the first time and then it killed it self.
If it was a big fat ass, then they generally only drop dung, which isn't very useful...

BTW, if you're in Blighttown for the first time, be prepared to get poisoned—a LOT. There is a shield that can help you with that.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Cyrus Jong on October 18, 2012, 09:42:33 PM
Sounds like it was Maneater Mildred, a black phantom NPC invader. She only drops a few bits of Humanity and a pretty unremarkable Butcher Knife weapon.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 19, 2012, 01:19:11 AM
Yeah i made a bad it was the fat ass.  And yes i get toxic way to much i hate blighttown. this part of the game sucks for me this is like one of the lvls in demon souls it's just this time they want revenge.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 19, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
Anyone know a good place to farm souls that is not a boss? I need a decent area just to kill some regular mobs for souls, I wish for an area like in 4-2 i believe in demon souls were you can just one shot the reaper with a bow and get 10k+ souls.  Could almost get 1mill in souls in an hour or under...oh that was the best place.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 20, 2012, 12:41:00 AM
Anyone know a good place to farm souls that is not a boss? I need a decent area just to kill some regular mobs for souls, I wish for an area like in 4-2 i believe in demon souls were you can just one shot the reaper with a bow and get 10k+ souls.  Could almost get 1mill in souls in an hour or under...oh that was the best place.
That sounds pretty boring to me. I didn't "farm" much in Dark Souls, but there is a verrrryyy cheesy spot you can farm in, if you've already faced the Forest Guardians, near the Seal of Artorias.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 20, 2012, 12:50:54 AM
The bonfire before Smough and Ornstein is a handy spot. Just get good at riposte and it should be a piece of cake. Just got to level 211 on NG++. Pvp'ing at Kiln. Anyone near same level wanna try and join up? PS3 here.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on October 20, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
Anyone know a good place to farm souls that is not a boss? I need a decent area just to kill some regular mobs for souls, I wish for an area like in 4-2 i believe in demon souls were you can just one shot the reaper with a bow and get 10k+ souls.  Could almost get 1mill in souls in an hour or under...oh that was the best place.

How far into the game are you?
Anor Londo is a good place to farm: Start on the bonfire at the spiral staircase inside the cathedral and work your way towards Ornstein&Smough, killing all the silver knights on the way.

Another Method would be in the forest: start at the Bonfire behind the hidden wall next the door you open with the crest of Artorias from Andre. Go through that door, engage all the forest NPC's and position yourself behind the stairs, so that you are right in the corner, the ledge to one side, the stairs to the other. The NPC's will run up the stairs, then try to fall down to you. If you position yourself right and raise your shield, the will be pushed over and behind you, falling off the ledge. Very effective in terms of souls per hour, but a little risky, sometimes the won't behave as planned and you have to fight them in that space. Can be a little nasty. Oh, and make sure you are not in the forest hunter covenant when doing this  :iva:   
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 21, 2012, 01:28:03 AM
Thank you for the help. I am not to far or I am mid game?... I am in blighttown  and hate it so much I went back to just farming gapeing dragon but the summons have slowed down way to much i think its time to press on.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 21, 2012, 01:38:31 AM
I am in blighttown  and hate it so much I went back to just farming ...
If it's the poison bugging you in Blighttown, a Spider Shield will really help you out. If you want to know where it is: You can find it in a room behind where you first encountered that butcher/cook above the Depths.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 21, 2012, 03:07:57 AM
If it's the poison bugging you in Blighttown, a Spider Shield will really help you out. If you want to know where it is: You can find it in a room behind where you first encountered that butcher/cook above the Depths.

hmm thank you I will look for this!!

Also anyone know how bleeding works? def doesnt seem to be the same as in Demon souls. I been using the barbed long sword from Kirk and the 300% bleed doesnt seem to work on anything i hit.  Is it just for pvp lets say?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 21, 2012, 05:04:23 AM
It's definately not just for pvp. I don't know how bleeding worked in Demon's Souls but in Dark Souls see the wiki:
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/bleed
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 21, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
I think in Demon Souls it went by how much dmg you delt in a number of hits you conected with. Or it went by how many hits you conected with, or it felt that way i dont remember any meter build up so it was super easy to get bleed going. almost every curved sword had bleed in demon souls I need to get used to the weapon changes now also.

But now I understand how it works.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 23, 2012, 01:02:01 PM
DLC arrives today!  5:00 pm can't arrive fast enough...

Beat the sanctuary guardian on my second try.  :beast: That one stamina draining attack is a killer if not dodged. Found out afterward I could have cut his tail off (hello NG+++).

Talked to Liz the Shroom, saw a giant black dragon, got scared and homeward boned outta there. So happy there's more Dark Souls to sink my teeth into.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 24, 2012, 06:10:10 PM
DLC arrives today!  5:00 pm can't arrive fast enough...

Beat the sanctuary guardian on my second try.  :beast: That one stamina draining attack is a killer if not dodged. Found out afterward I could have cut his tail off (hello NG+++).

Talked to Liz the Shroom, saw a giant black dragon, got scared and homeward boned outta there. So happy there's more Dark Souls to sink my teeth into.

 I am on NG+++ already and I had only just beaten the Capra demon last time I played. I progressed through blight town and rang the 2nd bell last night. Hoping to beat O & S tonight, then be at the DLC by the end of tomorrow.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 25, 2012, 01:56:06 PM
Trying to kick the crap outta sens....but it kicked the crap outta me =(.  3 demons down in the pit 1 more lucky demon to go...oh ittle be on like donkey kong!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on October 25, 2012, 02:59:24 PM
Downloaded the DLC yesterday when all I had left in my main game was the final 2 bosses. Beat it all in one go! I was so happy to have more Dark Souls and felt pretty proud of my character for handling it all so well  :guts:. Had some help from friends but beat the "final" boss all by myself first try.

I really enjoyed that little Sif puppy cameo ! Didn't realize until later that it actually changes your cutscene when fighting Sif, very cool!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 25, 2012, 04:31:38 PM
Trying to kick the crap outta sens....but it kicked the crap outta me =(.  3 demons down in the pit 1 more lucky demon to go...oh ittle be on like donkey kong!

"May the flames guide thee."

I'm at Artorias at the moment and he's killed me quite a few times already. I keep fiddling with what I go into battle with to see what may or may not give me an edge.  :???:  

Downloaded the DLC yesterday when all I had left in my main game was the final 2 bosses. Beat it all in one go! I was so happy to have more Dark Souls and felt pretty proud of my character for handling it all so well  :guts:. Had some help from friends but beat the "final" boss all by myself first try.
 

Did you beat Artorias alone? I'm going to try and do all the DLC alone, but help is always tempting.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on October 25, 2012, 05:54:28 PM
"May the flames guide thee."

I'm at Artorias at the moment and he's killed me quite a few times already. I keep fiddling with what I go into battle with to see what may or may not give me an edge.  :???:  
  

Did you beat Artorias alone? I'm going to try and do all the DLC alone, but help is always tempting.

No I got help for Artorias but it was still an intense fight. Playing through new game + now and gonna solo DLC.

The "final" boss I was saying I beat solo was Manus. He was a nice surpise seeing as how I actually had no idea of his pressence in the DLC.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on October 25, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
Got the DLC yesterday as well. Holy hell do i love the bosses! Only the Dragon remains now, but after spending 2 hours on Manus, I just visited him once and decided to call it quits for today.
No phantoms whatsoever, I like to solo Bosses at first. Sanctuary Guardian was a tough one, as I stubbornly refused to kill him until I got his tail... so few opportunities...

But Manus... damn you Manus! For me, he was the toughest boss ever. Aggressive, lots of hp, and attacks for every situation. Great fight.

Does anyone else thought of Guts in his berserker armor when fighting Artorias? To me it looked like Guts fighting in that thing against Grunbert. Dragging that sword behind him as if he cannot even lift it, only to go completely nuts in the next second.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 26, 2012, 12:03:35 PM
Artorias' limp arm harkened back when Guts' arm was briefly broken by Grunberd back when he first donned the armor. That and his one specific high jump he does. Taking him out alone was so very satisfying. Manus is coming up next... Took out Chester after his phantom tried to kill me and also killed the woman mourning Artorias. Felt bad, but needed her armor. I'll give her Artorias' soul next play through.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 26, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
Taking him out alone was so very satisfying. ... also killed the woman mourning Artorias.
You guys are monsters...  :sad:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on October 26, 2012, 04:19:32 PM
Actually I had no idea what to do when I met the woman mourning Artorias. I talked to her and she asked for Artorias's soul. I didn't read up on anything beforehand, so I gave it to her and got her daggers in return. Turns out I would have gotten them and more had I been a little more ruthless...
Well, now I have all her gear: Just blasted through Artorias (litterally) with my mage and this time I kept his soul.
Crystal soul spear actually makes the bosses quite easy, the Guardian was dead before I knew what happend :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 27, 2012, 02:21:05 AM
I'v gptten farther into ses now... got to the first bonfire holy crap it took forever. Now just farming souls to get the equipment that I want from the merchent in steel armor. Lightning spear all the way so far this thing is bad ass....really want the fury sword so will be farming souls for some time to get all the large shardes i need. And then time to look for the giant smith.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 27, 2012, 02:59:42 AM
Sounds like you have really started to enjoy this game now. I am glad to hear that. How do you feel it compares to Demon's Souls now that you have gotten this far?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 27, 2012, 03:25:33 PM
Sounds like you have really started to enjoy this game now. I am glad to hear that. How do you feel it compares to Demon's Souls now that you have gotten this far?

I do perfer demon over dark. But I am learning how to accept that they are 2 different games tho they play the same.  I am enjoying it more then I was before, lightning spear has helped me out alot. I had turned my kirk sword into a magic weapon in messed my self up so am now happy I can progress again at a faser rate. Also beat a mage player hiding in my world by luck, made him reatreat and he fell ^.^
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 27, 2012, 04:28:04 PM
I had turned my kirk sword into a magic weapon in messed my self up
You can always revert the sword to normal at any/most blacksmiths.

I wouldn't concern yourself TOO much with the crafting materials at the stage of the game you're at. At a certain point, you should have an abundance of all but Demon Titanite.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on October 27, 2012, 04:51:26 PM
You guys are monsters...  :sad:

I felt like one and really felt terrible to slash at Gough. His reply made me wanna take back what I just did. On NG ++++, I'll be a saint.

I tried the pvp arena. Meh. Summoning people at Kiln is still my favorite. In an hour and a half my 'team' and I raked in 7 million souls with only 1 death on my part the whole time. Finally maxed out my vitality.

Max out the Lifehunt Scythe, trust me. Running two handed attack covers such a good radius.

Ps: cutting off Kalameet tail was tedious as hell. The weapon shows high damage output but IMO, it's kind of blah.

Also beat a mage player hiding in my world by luck, made him reatreat and he fell ^.^

Lol, that happened to us this morning. It never a gets old to watch, you know they're cursing as they plummet to their moronic doom.

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on October 28, 2012, 05:42:05 AM
I was way better at pvp in demon like noone had fire def so a reg +5 fire sword was preaty beast. This game =s lots of ways for elemental def lighting seems to me like the beast element.

But yes I dont think it would get old watching anyone who invades fall to their doom mwahahaha!!. If only i could invite you to my game and you were able to drop 7mill souls for me that would be bad ass lol.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Nomad on October 30, 2012, 04:28:36 AM
So I finally installed this on my PC.  I don't know how long I'd be digging into this, but so far so good.  Made a warrior, but something tells me I should look at other options more closely.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on October 30, 2012, 02:58:57 PM
Took a few more tries then I'd like to get the Sanctuary Guardians Tail. I keep trying to help someone beat Artorias but instead am getting summoned On Artorias' steps to take Kalameet's tail.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 30, 2012, 03:55:55 PM
So I finally installed this on my PC.  I don't know how long I'd be digging into this, but so far so good.  Made a warrior, but something tells me I should look at other options more closely.
I hope you have some kind of controller, because I imagine playing this with mouse+keyboard would be pretty painful.

As for your character class, it honestly matters very little—only for the first few hours of the game. Ultimately, you can acquire the traits of any character class. A warrior can use magic/pyro etc.

The more critical choice is which item you take.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Nomad on October 30, 2012, 05:46:27 PM
I hope you have some kind of controller, because I imagine playing this with mouse+keyboard would be pretty painful.

As for your character class, it honestly matters very little—only for the first few hours of the game. Ultimately, you can acquire the traits of any character class. A warrior can use magic/pyro etc.

The more critical choice is which item you take.
I'm more of a gamepad friendly than with a keyboard.  I don't have an actual pad for PC, but I am using Xpadder to make my PS3 controller compatible in the PC. 

I am very surprised to just how identical this game is from Demons Souls.  Hell even some of the sound bytes are the same.  I haven't gotten far at all, but I plan on playing it as time allows it.  And as for items, I guess looking up for lists here and there on the net wouldn't hurt.  Looking forward into playing it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 01, 2012, 04:44:33 AM
I picked up my second playthrough in earnest after we lost Internet here due to Sandy. Tearing through it. Ran through Sen's Fortress without dying once. That place isn't very intimidating once you know where to go... In Anor Londo now, racking up souls and preparing for round 2 of O&S. Hoping for a repeat performance, but I doubt it... I'm still rusty.

Been leveling up the Black Knight armor and my endurance. Can aaaaaalmost wear the full set unencumbered without a Havel's Ring. Not quite there yet though... Also have a Lv 5 Lightning Greatsword that has some pretty nice stats (357/0/0/364). Unfortunately with +15 humanity, Queelag's Firesword does a bit more damage, and is much faster. I'll reserve the greatsword for moments when I'm feeling like Guts :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on November 02, 2012, 01:52:19 AM
I dont know what to do with thos damn heavy bow users on the ledge in lando makew me very angry getting shot off. But cant play since i have no power
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 02, 2012, 02:22:27 AM
I dont know what to do with thos damn heavy bow users on the ledge in lando makew me very angry getting shot off. But cant play since i have no power
Take them one at a time, or simply focus on the one on the right. As you get closer, you can roll past the arrows as they come. And once you get close enough to the guy on the right, he'll draw his sword. You can do two things here. Try to take him out legitimately on this terrible footing, or run back the way you came, and there's a strong chance that  he'll fall to his death. Bonfire is right around the corner to the right.

PS: Man, Ornstein & Smough really aren't fucking around in New Game+...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on November 02, 2012, 05:05:11 PM
I dont know what to do with thos damn heavy bow users on the ledge in lando makew me very angry getting shot off. But cant play since i have no power

Got poison arrows? :slan:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 02, 2012, 05:13:49 PM
The Anor Londo archers are a pain. I always just run up untill I'm on the ledge, go directly towards the right one and try to roll through his arrows. If he draws his sword I try to parry him, knocks him of most of the time. If you are right at him, the left archer can't hit you anymore.

Tried Artorias with my lvl 6 for the last hour. I hit him for 87 dmg with a strong attack, and my concentration just won't hold up for the duration. One mistake and I have to heal, which means he will likely hit me while drinking so I have to heal again. Got him to about 50% on my best try...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on November 02, 2012, 09:17:23 PM
Thank you all for the help. And sorry for any future posts i am limited to my nook tablet
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on November 03, 2012, 01:00:42 AM
The Anor Londo archers are a pain. I always just run up untill I'm on the ledge, go directly towards the right one and try to roll through his arrows. If he draws his sword I try to parry him, knocks him of most of the time. If you are right at him, the left archer can't hit you anymore.

Tried Artorias with my lvl 6 for the last hour. I hit him for 87 dmg with a strong attack, and my concentration just won't hold up for the duration. One mistake and I have to heal, which means he will likely hit me while drinking so I have to heal again. Got him to about 50% on my best try...

Are you using resin at all? It might up your damage just enough to be bearable. Or maybe an elemental weapon since at that level scaling means shit.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on November 03, 2012, 06:04:09 PM
Are you using resin at all? It might up your damage just enough to be bearable. Or maybe an elemental weapon since at that level scaling means shit.

I cant seem to get to them i have poison arrows and the stuff that makes weapon in right hand poisend havent had to much luck also have  no power yet to try again waiting tillni get power while staying at my in laws house.

My main weapon is the lightninig spear as of when i found it think i made it lvl 2
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 03, 2012, 06:24:45 PM
I cant seem to get to them i have poison arrows and the stuff that makes weapon in right hand poisend havent had to much luck also have  no power yet to try again waiting tillni get power while staying at my in laws house.

My main weapon is the lightninig spear as of when i found it think i made it lvl 2

You will probably want to get a different main weapon for an upcoming boss fight, who has an affinity for lightning.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 04, 2012, 02:21:24 AM
Are you using resin at all? It might up your damage just enough to be bearable. Or maybe an elemental weapon since at that level scaling means shit.

I use a fire longsword +10, so no resin for me. I started with the enigma, so all my stats are at 11. That of course means that I can't use that many weapons, that longsword is a good as it will get. I do have 8 great combustions and an ascended flame +3 which I could up to +5, but one shot of those takes longer than a stab does, so they are actually more risky. I got him down to about 25% last night but couldn't repeat that. Currently, if he wants to end the fight, he does :sad:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 04, 2012, 02:39:48 AM
I use a fire longsword +10, so no resin for me. I started with the enigma, so all my stats are at 11. That of course means that I can't use that many weapons, that longsword is a good as it will get. I do have 8 great combustions and an ascended flame +3 which I could up to +5, but one shot of those takes longer than a stab does, so they are actually more risky. I got him down to about 25% last night but couldn't repeat that. Currently, if he wants to end the fight, he does :sad:
I don't get it, why are  you choosing not to level up? What's the benefit of intentionally gimping  yourself like that? Did I miss the secret entrance exam for the super-macho Dark Souls club?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Saephon on November 04, 2012, 03:24:35 AM
Did I miss the secret entrance exam for the super-macho Dark Souls club?

Well actuallyyyyy....there is the Soul Level 1 playthrough club.  :slan: Not sure how many goats you have to sacrifice, but apparently it's possible.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 04, 2012, 03:41:28 AM
there is the Soul Level 1 playthrough club.  :slan:
Sounds boring.  :schierke:

Just beat Ornstein and Smough on New Game+. Took 6 tries instead of 1 this time :farnese: Though at that last fight, I had them both on a string. Only used 2 flasks. After that, I had enough souls to finally buy enough titanite to level all pieces of the Black Knight armor (my favorite in the game) to max. I... I think I'm finally nearly done, guys.

After I head through the DLC area, which I skipped my first playthrough, I plan to hang it up for good. Fucking love this game. Absolutely can't wait to see what From comes up with next.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on November 04, 2012, 04:41:06 AM
Walter other than the DLC, did you already to all the other optional stuff? Specifically, the great hollow, ash lake, painted world, return to undead asylum, Battle Gwyndolin in Anor Londo?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 04, 2012, 11:09:02 AM
I don't get it, why are  you choosing not to level up? What's the benefit of intentionally gimping  yourself like that? Did I miss the secret entrance exam for the super-macho Dark Souls club?

I've beaten the game multiple times with different Chars, so I wanted to see how far I could get without leveling. To me the great thing about this is that I have to actually pay attention to what I'm doing again. Even on my NG++ char, bosses just die in a couple of hits. With the small one I really have to pay attention to every move and keep the concentration up. It kind of recreates the feeling I had when I played the game for the first time.

Edit: I got him!!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 04, 2012, 02:48:27 PM
Walter other than the DLC, did you already to all the other optional stuff? Specifically, the great hollow, ash lake, painted world, return to undead asylum, Battle Gwyndolin in Anor Londo?
I've already done all of those except Ash Lake, which I still haven't really found, and Gwyndolin, which I have no intention of doing (since I believe that it requires offing my princess, WHO I AM SWORN TO PROTECT)  :azan: .

To me the great thing about this is that I have to actually pay attention to what I'm doing again. Even on my NG++ char, bosses just die in a couple of hits. With the small one I really have to pay attention to every move and keep the concentration up. It kind of recreates the feeling I had when I played the game for the first time.
Okay I can see that. The first few bosses on New Game+ for me were embarrassingly easy. I felt really overpowered after taking Sif down in the first attempt... Also, the areas haven't been scaled up appropriately in difficulty either. Then it started scaling up. Silver Knights could take me down in about 4-5 hits (of course I could kill them with a single parry/riposte...) But S&O were definitely much tougher this time around.

Next for me is 4 kings, then I'll have my first discussion with Kaathe.

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Edit: I got him!!
Congrats! I can't wait to fight him... A little intimidated based on what I've heard. But that's a good feeling at this point in the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 04, 2012, 04:40:23 PM
I've already done all of those except Ash Lake, which I still haven't really found, and Gwyndolin, which I have no intention of doing (since I believe that it requires offing my princess, WHO I AM SWORN TO PROTECT)  :azan: .

You don't need to kill Gwynevere to fight Gwyndolin, even if you kill him she stays, together with the sunlight. To gain access to him without killing her you need to find the darkmoon seance ring in the catacombs.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on November 04, 2012, 06:05:02 PM
What Gaahl says is correct. Also you may find this out from speaking to Kaathe but I am pretty sure you can only pick it up from reading the lore in various item descriptions: Gwyndolin is the youngest child of Lord Gwyn and the last remaining god in Anor Londo. The real Gwynyvere left Anor Londo long ago when she married the God of Fire, Flann. The Gwynyvere that the player meets is an illusion created and maintained by Gwyndolin. Gwyndolin supports his father's agenda and the Gwynyvere illusion is designed to trick/coerce the chosen undead [you] into bringing the Lord Vessel to King Seeker Frampt, who leads you towards the path of linking the fire at the very end of the game. [imo the "bad" ending a.k.a. the player was tricked by gwyndolin].

Also Walter, did I read correctly that you said you HAVE been to The Great Hollow but not to Ashe Lake? Both are pretty unique locations and I recommend you check out all the game has to offer. The entrance to Ashe lake is through The Great Hollow.

I suggest you do these Gwyndolin/Great Hollow/Ashe Lake before the DLC areas, because compared to the length and challenge of the DLC, you may find these underwhelming by comparison.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 06, 2012, 04:00:05 AM

(http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_001.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_001a.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_002.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_002a.jpg)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on November 06, 2012, 05:04:41 AM
Haha good job Walter! I was actually really embarrassed when I found out through this thread I had never been to The Great Hollow or Ash Lake. Immediately started playing again to see them and now excited about doing DLC again. Walking out into Ash Lake was beautiful, I can't believe I almost missed it completely!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on November 07, 2012, 03:41:50 AM
Nice Job Walter. Took me a minute to realize the 2nd pic must be from Gwyndolin's hall. Not sure if you play a faith build, but I recall you get a unique miracle from that hall. I hope the trek to Ashe lake was worth the time it took to get there. Fortunately you got the Lord Vessel first and can just warp out of there. The hike isn't so fun on the way back.

Enjoy the DLC please update us on your experience. Same to you Draculoid.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 07, 2012, 06:26:53 AM
Enjoy the DLC please update us on your experience. Same to you Draculoid.
Well, I was all set to launch into the DLC tonight. Buuuuuut, I'm trying to play the Kaathe route, so I have to go through the 4 Kings before I can use the Lordvessel, and I'm having much more difficulty than last time with these asswipes...

In the very first match, I had them dead to rights, wailed through three of them with little trouble, then the fourth spawned and instantly launched a slow homing missile (unblockable--you have to run away for 15 seconds, or wait for it to hit you, usually at an inopportune time) + sucked me in (unblockable unless you run away and not locked on), then after that, the unblockable homing finally arrived, stunning me and bringing me to almost zero life. While I was stunned, he did his unblockable AoE...  :mozgus: :mozgus: :mozgus: Along with these bullshit attacks, they have an insane, almost unpredictable range. Could they be any cheaper?

After that, I lost my composure in the rematch along with 19 souls, so after a few more utter failures, I said fuck it for the time being.

So yeah, fucking lousy night for me with Dark Souls. Extremely frustrated. I'll be back tomorrow though  :femto: . I welcome any advice aside from any magical routes. I'm using Queelag's Furysword +5 and it's not doing a terrible amount of damage... suggestions?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on November 07, 2012, 09:20:32 AM
4 Kings on NG+ where incredibly tough for me as well. After countless tries, this is what I did in the end: Dressed up in full Smoughs Armor, equipped the BKGA+5 as well as the Greatshield of Artorias+5 and just tanked through everything the did, eating green blossoms whenever they would run out. That was before the BKGA got its damage reduced, so today I would probably just use my Demons Great Axe+15, which does way more damage per swing anyway.
I blocked the magic and most of the time simply poised through the normal attacks. Fully upgraded Giants would be even better for that then Smoughs.
Oh, and I think I did use Beatrice. I hear that you shouldn't use her in this fight as the kings get more life when summons are present and her damage doesn't offset this on NG+, but it worked out.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: mnedel on November 07, 2012, 10:04:17 AM
Funny, the four kings were really easy for me on NG+. Killed them on a first try, but I had great problems with S&O.
For defense I used a combination of black knight armor and Havel’s armor and shield, and I had Great sword of Artorias. Can't remember the damage but it took several swings to bring one down. I just tanked through their magic, maybe got hit 3-4 times, healed and hacked away and that’s it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 07, 2012, 05:26:04 PM
Of course I beat it on my first try today, after getting some sleep. I was probably just exhausted from everything  yesterday. Was a breeze with Power Within, two handed Queelag and just taking the hits, rolling when I could.

(http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_003a.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_003.jpg)

(http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_004a.jpg) (http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls/darksouls_004.jpg)

Hmmmmm, can't quite place my finger on where I've seen such armor before! :carcus:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: IncantatioN on November 08, 2012, 12:21:24 AM
SK meets Skeletor, kinda. And thus, I have contributed to the most bumped thread in the past few days *proud of himself* ^_^
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on November 09, 2012, 06:15:50 PM
Of course I beat it on my first try today, after getting some sleep. I was probably just exhausted from everything  yesterday. Was a breeze with Power Within, two handed Queelag and just taking the hits, rolling when I could.

Green Blossoms, Power Within and High Poise. That was my key to success in NG++++.

I recently got a close friend of mine to pick up and play. I made a new character just to help him with his first playthrough. It's quite a jolt going from a level 273 character to brand spankin' new one.

This game's like an onion, so many layers and sometimes it makes me cry. PvP is really becoming my thing. Giant's Armor fully upgraded makes Smough's armor look meh. I'm always learning new techniques and strategies. I'll admit, when an invading phantom would spawn, I would give them no quarter in fear they would end me in 2-3 hits. Now, being a little for more comfy, I take a bow and try to PvP like a gentleman. The Stone Greatsword/Lifehunt Scythe, Repair Powder and the Pursuer spell. :daiba: Bring. It. The. Fuck. On.

Anyone around the 270 level on PS3?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on November 10, 2012, 01:44:45 AM
I will be in around 200 or alittle less levels lol. Been doing good lately farmed for a while.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 10, 2012, 03:27:19 AM
I will be in around 200 or alittle less levels lol. Been doing good lately farmed for a while.
Jesus.... Isn't that making the game too easy? I finished it at 80 something, and that felt about right challenge wise.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on November 10, 2012, 04:00:22 AM
I beat it at 72 and didn't even got anything special besides havel's armor . For me it was more getting my stamina up and strength up. That way, I would hit bosses with more hits and make them stagger.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on November 10, 2012, 04:26:49 PM
Thanks for the tip about the Giant's Armor Proj. I've been using the full set of Smough armor and didn't realize there was anything better for me.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on November 10, 2012, 04:33:53 PM
Jesus.... Isn't that making the game too easy? I finished it at 80 something, and that felt about right challenge wise.

Don't forget new game + (++) (+++) haha .

Just beat Gwyndolin for the first time today on my new game +, had completely forgotten about him originally! At first I thought it was tough since i had to hide by the columns to avoid the little homing attack and since his big attack went straight through but i very quickly got it down by like my fourth try. Just run at him straight most of the time and move side to side  :guts:. Also swapped out my Smoughs armour for fully upgraded Giants. My faith character is pretty much complete I think!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on November 10, 2012, 05:58:44 PM
Thanks for the tip about the Giant's Armor Proj. I've been using the full set of Smough armor and didn't realize there was anything better for me.

No prob. Just realized myself not too long ago.

Jesus.... Isn't that making the game too easy? I finished it at 80 something, and that felt about right challenge wise.

Core game does become a little easier I admit. Unless you become sloppy.    I'm enjoying being invaded by powerful people and subsequently handing their asses to them. The thrill is comparable to beating bosses on your first play through solo. That's my main reason for continuing to level up
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 10, 2012, 08:02:34 PM
Don't forget new game + (++) (+++) haha .
Sure but this is breed's first playthrough, as I understood.

I'm on my second now and am about level 110 just finished with 4 kings.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on November 10, 2012, 10:43:52 PM
Sure but this is breed's first playthrough, as I understood.

I'm on my second now and am about level 110 just finished with 4 kings.

Oh wow , if it is then my bad. I wasn't even comprehending someone being that level on their first playthrough and in that case I agree with you. At least it's cool that the game allows for that sort of thing, even if you aren't that great at the combat you can always level up to compensate.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on November 11, 2012, 04:21:14 AM
Almost lvl 90 on my first play through, mostly for not knowing where to go so I farm souls. I am playing this like i did with demon souls taking my time and trying only to die at bosses if i cant beat them on the first shot.

So again alittle stuck not sure where to go I just got done with killing sif? i think the doggy with the sword? then went to vally of the drakes so not sure what to do there giant iron door cant open as far as i know the areas really short or I am def missing somethen.

Also been wearing the ring to protect the forest so I can get alittle pvp in won 2 times and lost once not to bad.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on November 11, 2012, 07:25:10 PM
Breed, have you already met with Princess Gwynyvere? Have you placed the lordvessel? Have you acquired any lord souls? That would help give us an indication of what you should be doing next if you were stuck and needed help.|

On my own progress. I beat ng+++ last night (my first play through with the DLC content) and I used the soul of Manus to make pursuers. Now I need to beat him again on ng++++ to use the soul and get his catalyst. I've heard it does wonders for the dark sorceries if you also have a high STR stat.

I am level 206 at the moment, just ran through a big chunk ng++++ and this morning and beat O&S. I am well past the point of diminishing returns on leveling STR (70 +) and have just reached diminishing returns on INT (50) with (47) or so END and (49) VIT.  I just got my 5th attunement slot, and am working on getting that stat up to 23 to get my 6th attunement.

Having Dark Bead, 2 crystal soul spears, and 2 souls spears at (50) INT made O&S a breeze in ng++++. Even without using any magic augmenting rings or equipment other than Master Logan's catalyst.

Its a shame that PS3, XBOX and PC players can't play together. I am worried that if I keep leveling, I will soon not find anyone to summon me. I also just joined the Sun Bro's covenant which should give me the unique perk of linking to members of Way Of the White, Princess Guard, and Sun Bro covenants to engage in jolly cooperation. Here's hoping.

I am about ready to go back into the DLC, but I am still worried about Manus on ng++++ since I needed the help of 2 coop summons and 1 NPC summon before I was finally able to beat him last time. But I was also still trying to use the Black Knight Great Axe at the time, not realizing its R1 attack had been stealth nerfed in patch 1.06
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on November 12, 2012, 12:07:42 AM
I have the lordvessel didn't do anything with it yet. After i got it I farmed for a while then did Butterfly,hydra,sif.  Then went to the valley of drakes Not sure what to do here unless if its anything like the 2 bells then I will have to return later. Since all i can do is kill some drakes, I did kill the big dead looking dragon thing with arrows since I'm a cheap ass mofo. Also did the same with the hydra but had to fight the last three heads at its own area since it was hard to hit with arrows.

So this is how I played

Start area, to firelink, then undead burg/parish, then to depths, blight town, then queelags, got owned by discharge and left.

Didn't know what to do so farmed gapeing dragon for a bit and lvled my self and gear. Went to sens fort had trouble then roamed around alittle then went back and kicked its ass alittle at a time. Forgot to free the guy but will do it at some other time.

Then went to anor lando had alittle trouble cause of the stupid knights that had the dragon slayer bows on the ledge got lucky and passed that. Got furysword to lvl 4 (thank you sens fort) got hovels armor and am now using that and wish i could upgrade it.

Went to darkwood(or root?) and kicked the crap outta it except the hydra gave me a little trouble and sif i died once on. 

Then went through darkwood or what ever it is I went to the valley of the drakes killed a few by an iron door that wont open got the ring and stuff. Moved up the path to the dead looking dragon but killed from afar with arrows got some stuff and went on to realize that's how i get to new lando  and that is where i will be heading to.

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 12, 2012, 01:09:23 AM
You are on the right track.  :serpico:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on November 12, 2012, 01:11:40 AM
Walter! When are you going to give us your Juicy DLC play-by-play?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 12, 2012, 02:01:13 AM
Walter! When are you going to give us your Juicy DLC play-by-play?
Probably not for a while. Busy busy. I am excited to play it though.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Breed1Ghost on November 12, 2012, 02:11:48 AM
You are on the right track.  :serpico:

Good I need to get some revenge on the ghosts went there to soon.  I will try tomorrow bringing fiery doom on the resetless seeking death!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on November 17, 2012, 05:14:35 PM
Just took out Manus with the help of an NPC Summon in NG++++.  This is the fight I was worried most about, even more than the 4 kings. Since I needed 2 coop summons and 1 npc summon to beat him the first time in NG+++. However it turns out my biggest folly then was trying to use an eagle shield +15 to fight him. Even with 84 stability, the 95% physical damage blocking made it a much more panicked fight.

As soon as I switched to the great shield of artorias the fight became a piece of cake. Now I'm going to try Kalameet by myself. I already got his tail last play through so I just need to kill him.

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Slime_Beherit on November 21, 2012, 12:12:28 PM
What's the largest chunk of souls yall have lost? (just lost ~550,000)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on November 21, 2012, 02:07:05 PM
Souls aren't worth as much as humanity to me and I lost 19 at one point...  :azan:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Grail on November 27, 2012, 05:31:07 AM
I just got through the tutorial section of the game. The port cleans up pretty nicely with that DSfix (thanks for the link, Walter!) and an adjustment to the camera speed, which was getting me a bit carsick. I'm not really big on mods, so that'll probably be all for me, unless someone is merciful enough to put together a mod that replaces the Xbox button graphics with ones for the PC. :ganishka: Anyway, a few initial thoughts:

- The cutscene narrator is driving me nuts. The lines themselves aren't especially cheesy, but her delivery is killing me.
- I went for a Bandit without looking at any guides. NO REGRETS!
- I'm kinda getting down with my zombie self, I don't know if I want to go back to normal! Takes me back to ME2.

I'm hoping to read though the thread for tips soon, but am a bit worried about spoiling anything until I'm further along. In the meantime, I'll just be working on memorizing the controls. :judo:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Cyrus Jong on November 27, 2012, 06:08:47 AM
Unless you want to summon some help everywhere you go, you'll be spending more time in your undead form.

Been playing the DLC content for the first time and it's been kicking my ass. I swear that every boss in it resists Magic damage. Just my luck to try my hand with an Intelligence-based character who uses the Moonlight Greatsword.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 08, 2012, 01:56:00 AM
Dark Souls 2 is coming. Trailer was shown at the Video Game Awards tonight. Will post trailer when it's available.

http://kotaku.com/5966786/here-is-dark-souls-iis-debut-trailer
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Nomad on December 08, 2012, 02:31:35 AM
Dark Souls 2 is coming. Trailer was shown at the Video Game Awards tonight. Will post trailer when it's available.

http://kotaku.com/5966785/dark-souls-ii-is-coming
Good deal.  I haven't gotten deep into it just yet, but I really have to stress that since you like this game, have a friend lend you his PS3 and play Demon's Souls.  It's literally the exact kind of game.  Something to keep you entertained while staying at the house and all. 
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Skeleton on December 08, 2012, 03:21:51 AM
Dark Souls 2 is coming. Trailer was shown at the Video Game Awards tonight. Will post trailer when it's available.

http://kotaku.com/5966786/here-is-dark-souls-iis-debut-trailer

That looks awesome.  I really like those masked guys.  I wonder when/where it will take place.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 08, 2012, 03:41:36 AM
(http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-1a1js3.gif)

I agree, very psyched for this game. Great music in the trailer too. Wonder when this will be coming. I'd guess fall or winter 2013 based on their previous schedule.

As for when/where, I don't think the trailer reveals very much. At first I thought we saw what looks like Anor Londo on the horizon a few times, but it's a bit different actually. There are also some everlasting dragon corpses, so on first blush I'd guess that its at least around the same time as DS if not a bit afterwards (being a sequel afterall). After Gwyn's age at any rate. Yes, we see a dragon in the trailer, but it could just be a drake, and either way, we learned through Dark Souls that not all the everlasting dragons were killed.

My question is... Wonder which ending will be canon. I'm hoping for Kaathe.

UPDATE:
From their press release issued after the debut:

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Hopelessness, Despair, and Impending Doom Arrives With Dark Souls II

SAN JOSE, Calif. – December 7, 2012 – Leading video game publisher and developer NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc. today proudly announces that the critically acclaimed Dark Souls™ saga marches forward with Dark Souls™ II, currently in development at FromSoftware in Tokyo, Japan. Dark Souls II will continue a legacy of goading its passionate fan base with unrelenting challenge and suffering that are considered a hallmark of the series; while presenting new devilishly devised obstacles for players to overcome. Dark Souls II will be available for the PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system, the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, and PCs.

Built upon the foundation established by Souls series creator and Dark Souls II Supervisor, Hidetaka Miyazaki with development helmed by FromSoftware Director Tomohiro Shibuya, Dark Souls II will feature a new hero, a new storyline, and an unfamiliar world for players to survive in while delivering its signature brand of unrelenting punishment that players hunger for. Epic battles with gruesome enemies and blood-thirsty bosses await adventurers as they traverse through a devastated world filled with death and despair; only those who are strong willed or cunning can survive this journey to achieve great glory. Players seeking to share their experience will discover a revamped server-based multiplayer mode that will put a distinct Dark Souls II twist on the concept of playing with others.

“Dark Souls II retains the core essence of Dark Souls while evolving to present new twists and challenges that are sure to please longtime fans and attract new comers to the series,” says Carlson Choi, Vice President of Marketing at NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc. “FromSoftware is going to take a very dark path with Dark Souls II; players will need to look deep within themselves to see if they have the intestinal fortitude to embark on this journey.”

“This new chapter in the Dark Souls saga presents opportunities for us to drive innovation in gameplay design, develop an entirely new story, and expand the scope of the world in which the player interacts with the game. We have taken these necessary steps with Dark Souls II in order to evolve the overall experience of the Dark Souls series,” says Tomohiro Shibuya, FromSoftware Director on Dark Souls II. “The entire development team is striving to make Dark Souls II an experience that is fresh while not forsaking its roots in presenting players with challenging gameplay. Our goal is to surprise and delight our fans with new experiences and plot twists while enticing new players to join our dark journey.”

More details surrounding Dark Souls II will become available in the months leading to its release. Begin your Dark Souls II journey at www.DarkSoulsII.com or join the Dark Souls II conversation on Facebook at www.Facebook.com/DARKSOULS or follow us on Twitter at www.Twitter.com/Filthierich
So it's a new world, and a new setting. Makes some sense. The only reason Dark Souls had a different name from Demon's Souls is to sidestep legal headaches. So this one may as well be called Demon's Souls III.

Still, after being so invested in the world set out in Dark Souls, it's a little sad they'll be essentially starting over.

By that same token... a whole new world and setting to explore :daiba:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on December 08, 2012, 07:17:18 AM
I'm so goddamn excited. I didn't expect to hear this news today! :ubik:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Skeleton on December 08, 2012, 07:44:21 AM
Cool!  Thanks for the info, Walter!  It scares me that they say they're now going to take a "very dark path" in the second game.  I may be crazy, but I thought the story/world of the first game was utterly dark and depressing.  So it scares me to think of where they could go from there.  :magni:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Slime_Beherit on December 08, 2012, 08:38:13 AM
I may be crazy, but I thought the story/world of the first game was utterly dark and depressing.

It's that damn Firelink Shrine song! makes me wanna give up before i even start up a play session.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 08, 2012, 10:11:37 AM
Awesome news! And I'm glad they're going for a new world/setting. Dark Souls' world was rich, but its tale had been told.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 08, 2012, 06:07:49 PM
Are we sure it's a completely new story with absolutely no relation to Dark Souls lore?

I mean the first line "You are of the Undead..."

The story of Gwyn and Lordran has been told for sure, but there are other Gods specifically mentioned in Dark Souls that never show up at all, only referenced.

Dark Souls II will feature a new hero, a new storyline, and an unfamiliar world for players to survive...

I think by unfamiliar world, he simply means not Lordran.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 08, 2012, 06:26:56 PM
Are we sure it's a completely new story with absolutely no relation to Dark Souls lore?
...
I think by unfamiliar world, he simply means not Lordran.
We're not really sure of anything, but when they say new world and new story, I take it to mean the difference will be along the same lines as Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. That being said, Lordran is a kingdom (the realm of lords) in the world of Dark Souls. Other kingdoms include Carim, Catalina, Thorolund, Vinheim, etc. But I wouldn't call those "worlds," necessarily.

Some new info from Edge magazine:

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Speaking with the publication, game director Tomohiro Shibuya explained that Dark Souls 2 will differ in more ways than one from its predecessors.

"I am personally the sort of person who likes to be more direct than subtle," Shibuya said. "[Dark Souls 2] will be more straightforward and understandable."

Shibuya and Yui Tanimura replace former game director Hidetaka Miyazaki.
They're toeing a very dangerous line here. But I have faith that they know what made Dark Souls great, and will follow up on it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 08, 2012, 07:15:39 PM
The story of Gwyn and Lordran has been told for sure, but there are other Gods specifically mentioned in Dark Souls that never show up at all, only referenced.

They worked well enough as background lore though, while all the main guys were all taken care of. If it built upon what happened in the first game, I'd expect it to introduce new characters and reuse only little from the first game. I'd like to see Velka I guess, but that's about it.

They're toeing a very dangerous line here. But I have faith that they know what made Dark Souls great, and will follow up on it.

Yeah... Not being straightforward is one of the reasons I liked Dark Souls so much.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dar Klink on December 08, 2012, 08:40:29 PM
Replacing the director from the last two games is scaring me quite a bit, and the fact that they've mentioned wanting to achieve the success of Skyrim... I'll try not to be a pessimist though, I'm still excited. :void:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 09, 2012, 06:22:48 AM
Finally got around to playing the DLC this weekend. Not finished yet, but enjoying it so far. Neat setting.


First attempt at Artorias, realized Queelag's sword sucks against him, let him kill me.
Second attempt, used Black Knight Sword, super effective. Brought him to 1/4 life, then he nailed me while I was trying to heal.
Third attempt, fucked around attempting Iron Flesh and that was a fucking failure.
Fourth attempt, IN THE BAG. Moving on to bigger and better things.

Didn't think he was as hard as he should have been, given the guy's legendary status in the game's lore. Of course, he had been brought low by the abyss. Very visually impressive moveset though. Speaking of which, yeah, that fight totally resembled Guts when the armor is activated. Even has the growling effect. Wonder if Miura will ever play this game?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Truder on December 09, 2012, 07:51:02 AM
Replacing the director from the last two games is scaring me quite a bit
That really killed my excitement for this game.. along with the fact that it feels like Dark Souls had just come out. Let's hope they dont start pumping out the souls series just for the sake of pumping them out. Its supposed to come out next year right? although i must say, that trailer looked awesome.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 09, 2012, 02:51:30 PM
That really killed my excitement for this game..
While I share your skepticism, the former director is sticking around as a supervisor, which generally means that he will have final say on the overall game. Judging from the Edge preview article (full article due out in a week or so, and I'll post details here), the subtext is that they changed directors to open the game up to more people. Whether that means streamlining arcane systems like covenants and weapon upgrade paths, or spelling out key details for people narratively remains to be seen. And that's sort of the crux for a lot of people.

I'd like to talk about this particular point in the next SkullKast since Aaz and I have differing opinions on Dark Souls' presentation, even though we both love it.

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along with the fact that it feels like Dark Souls had just come out. Let's hope they don't start pumping out the souls series just for the sake of pumping them out. Its supposed to come out next year right?
It may seem soon, but it's the same duration between Demon's Souls (2009) and Dark Souls (2011).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on December 09, 2012, 03:50:10 PM
Replacing the director from the last two games is scaring me quite a bit, and the fact that they've mentioned wanting to achieve the success of Skyrim... I'll try not to be a pessimist though, I'm still excited. :void:

This is always news that's worrisome to the diehards and inviting the new people and like others have said, is a real balancing act. The most fearful thing is that mention of Skyrim, did anyone else get a similar vibe from the Dragon battle in the snowy landscape with fur on his armour ?  :femto: Then again, it was a trailer to be shown at the VGAs and who is the target audience at those things? Mainstream gamers who probably love Skyrim. I just really hope it was their attempt at enticing those sorts of fans while not catering to them completely. It was an odd event to to showcase the premiere of that game in my opinion...just really hope it isn't much of a sign of things to come. At least it was introduced by Jessica Alba, would have never guessed in a million years that if you asked me to bet on how it would be announced lol.

I really hope and wish the Dark Souls team knows why their games are popular and who their fans are. I think one of the main reasons behind it's popularity is the obscure nature of the game events and how certain things literally take research and communities to figure out. There are certain aspects of the game though I certainly feel could use some streamlining and polishing at the same time. All in all Dark Souls is definitely one of my favorite games of recent memoryand i have faith it will be another great game, can't wait to see more!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 10, 2012, 04:27:26 AM
Patch 1.07's out. Fixes the graphical glitch in the DLC areas.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Wyrm on December 13, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
I really hope and wish the Dark Souls team knows why their games are popular and who their fans are.

Sometimes people don't realize that what makes a game great are elements that would never work in a mass market game. Death in Dark Souls means something and is made in a way that the only person you can pissed off at is yourself. You always know what happened, why you die and how you can try to avoid it next time. I can't see them trying to get this game to the masses and keeping that mechanic.

So the quote above is the only think I'm asking for or else this little piggy won't go to the market.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 13, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHW08wUesxE

I find this guy's effort admirable, though I don't buy his theory even if he is 99% certain.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 13, 2012, 07:27:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHW08wUesxE

I find this guy's effort admirable, though I don't buy his theory even if he is 99% certain.

Yeah it's pretty much groundless.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 13, 2012, 07:35:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHW08wUesxE

I find this guy's effort admirable, though I don't buy his theory even if he is 99% certain.
I'm 99% certain that an utterly featureless, weather-worn statue face does resemble a featureless mask. Bravo, YouTuber!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gaahl on December 14, 2012, 05:49:44 PM
In regard to the Skyrim comment: it is worth mentioning that this particular line comes from Edge magazine, not the new Director.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 14, 2012, 06:05:14 PM
In regard to the Skyrim comment: it is worth mentioning that this particular line comes from Edge magazine, not the new Director.
It should have been pointed out by me earlier, but yeah... That's EDGE playing coy with interpreting what From mean when they say more accessible. EDGE is simply using Skyrim as the baseline for modern RPG popularity. It's also merely an excerpt of their full interview, which will be released on Dec. 20.

Anyway, From have been pretty straightforward about their company's philosophy. Check this behind the scenes video released before Dark Souls came out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnUAGdBwcCg

Quote
"From Software's philosophy is not to get caught up in chasing what's popular, but rather to make games based on what we value.

"It's our company's most basic principle.

"Instead of saying, 'This other game is a hit, so let's copy it,'  we put enormous emphasis on simply making the kinds of games that we want to make."

So yeah, pretty much the opposite of what people are speculating. I think people should  give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Dark Souls II. They've certainly earned credibility.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 15, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
A summary of details from the Edge article was posted on Neogaf today:

-Huge leap in graphical quality. The game is compared to Watch Dogs and Star Wars 1313. Dynamic lighting and smoother animations all around.

-Hidetake Miyazaki, the director for Dark/Demon's souls, will not be directing the game and will only be lightly involved in the production. His involvement is mostly about getting the project started and occasionally checking in on it.

-The unknown nature of the games came from Miyazaki's interest in western fantasy/mythology and his relative inability to read the English text as a child, leaving him to fill in the blanks.

-Miyazaki was disappointed about having to patch Dark Souls, saying that they pushed the game out without being 100% complete. Dark Souls II will be complete when it launches.

-Server based PVP is back

-Information is unclear whether or not Miyazaki willingly stepped down from the director's chair. Namco calls is a "company decision" and has this disturbing anecdote to share:

"For the IP to evolve and provide a new experience within the Dark Souls world the new wind from directors Shibuya and Tanimura is key to providing players with a brand new Dark Souls experience. In order to maintain expectations and satisfaction and the rewards players experience this was the time to bring in new characteristics and tastes of the directors for the series to continue evolving."

-Miyazaki is working on a new game he can't talk about.

-Miyazaki is disappointed he doesn't have a greater role in Dark Souls II

-The Graphics are shockingly close to the trailer's quality

-According to Shibuya, one of the co-directors, the player's ability to parse meaning from subtle hints or clues will determine the difficulty of the game and the challenges that are there to experience.

-The map is roughly the same size, but has more content and more "areas of interest".

-The notion that Dark Souls needs to evolve was "common". Edge says not to expect a minor update.

-In designing map areas, the main concept was to create areas that had not been in either game.

-Talks of implementing a system that will let you reveal the clues you've learned over the course of the game (wut?)

-Shibuya talks about "limiting players options for the early portion of the game, making it simpler to understand new concepts. Then, after a certain amount of time has elapsed, they will suddenly experience the true dark souls experience".

-The game is a direct sequel to Dark Souls, but will not take place in Lordran. It takes place in the same world, but in a different location.

-Time travel may play a part in the plot, and the "theme" of the game is "time" and "eras"

-Shibuya does not intend to change the controls.

-There may be slight awkwardness coming in from Dark Souls, but people should be able to adapt easily.

-Covenants will return, but be easier to understand

-Dark Souls II will be more straightforward and understandable in regards to gameplay and plot. Sibuya says he enjoyed the way Dark souls handled things, but he feels that there were elements so subtle that almost no one experienced them.

-The game has been in development since September of last year, and work on the patch/DSII was done simultaneously.

-The team for DSII is substantially bigger. The team for world construction is doubled in size, and people have been added in every other area as well.

-The game is roughly 25% complete. Very unlikely to release in 2013.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 15, 2012, 02:50:28 PM
-Information is unclear whether or not Miyazaki willingly stepped down from the director's chair. Namco calls is a "company decision" and has this disturbing anecdote to share:

"For the IP to evolve and provide a new experience within the Dark Souls world the new wind from directors Shibuya and Tanimura is key to providing players with a brand new Dark Souls experience. In order to maintain expectations and satisfaction and the rewards players experience this was the time to bring in new characteristics and tastes of the directors for the series to continue evolving."

-Miyazaki is working on a new game he can't talk about.

-Miyazaki is disappointed he doesn't have a greater role in Dark Souls II

Sounds like he was asked to step down. But if he's working on a new title it might not be all that bad. Like they said, the DS formula will evolve Miyazaki creates a new IP.

-The game is a direct sequel to Dark Souls, but will not take place in Lordran. It takes place in the same world, but in a different location.

-Time travel may play a part in the plot, and the "theme" of the game is "time" and "eras"

Could be an interesting take on things, and a way to step around the problem of having already done so much in DS1.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ryOtoha on December 15, 2012, 11:02:17 PM
Thank you for posting this. I'm currently playing Dark souls and enjoying it so far.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 18, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
Interesting video discussing the Edge Article.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB0LXzDfLKs
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 18, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
I saw it a few days ago. I think he's reading way too much into the "this is the main hero" line. It reeks of a bad translation.

Will Dark Souls II be a different game without the same director? Of course. Is that a bad thing? No, not necessarily. It sounds to me like they're very focused on broadening the world of Dark Souls, and honestly that's what intrigues me the most about this franchise.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on December 18, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
An interesting watch for sure. Definitely remaining cautiously optimistic like many others, can't wait for more news. Didn't realize how early in development it still is, wonder when we will get our first screens/gameplay.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on December 19, 2012, 02:38:09 PM
Hopefully just a bad translation.

It sounds to me like they're very focused on broadening the world of Dark Souls, and honestly that's what intrigues me the most about this franchise.

I agree with you. The story is bait and the gameplay is the hook, at least for me. At this point (over 300+ hours in) I'm very familiar with the nuances in the gameplay. I'm at least on NG+(10) and I love still noticing little things about the world I've missed before. Some times have been strictly speed runs of item hunts. Before and after the DLC came out I really began to reinvest in the story. I'm more than happy Dark Souls 2 is taking place in the same world as Lordran.

I am worried about the absence of Miyazaki though. With regards to the lore, it's like Miura being taken away from a future Berserk game. Not saying Miyazaki is anywhere near the level of Miura, but Dark Souls is Miyazaki's story as Berserk is Miura's. It's a bit hard not to be worried.

Forget how the story is presented. If they want to make it and the nature of gameplay clearer, go for it. While I like having to do research to understand the lore, I get why everyone might not enjoy it. But I Hope Miyazaki has SOME input as the to the nature of the story.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 20, 2012, 07:40:38 PM
So I escaped the asylum and now everything is killing me.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on December 21, 2012, 03:56:16 PM
New concept art has been shown for Dark Souls 2. http://www.siliconera.com/2012/12/20/dark-souls-ii-concept-art-shows-ghastly-monsters/
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 21, 2012, 04:02:45 PM
So I escaped the asylum and now everything is killing me.
So you've officially arrived in Lordran. You have a variety of places you can go at this point, but only one path make sense for people making their first trek through. I'd recommend looking for the stairs along a mountain to the right side of the starting bonfire, if you're facing those steps in front of you. I remember when I first started, my graphics settings were so low that I couldn't even see the stairs very well, so I kept bypassing them. But that's the way you want to be going.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 21, 2012, 06:08:27 PM
So you've officially arrived in Lordran. You have a variety of places you can go at this point, but only one path make sense for people making their first trek through. I'd recommend looking for the stairs along a mountain to the right side of the starting bonfire, if you're facing those steps in front of you. I remember when I first started, my graphics settings were so low that I couldn't even see the stairs very well, so I kept bypassing them. But that's the way you want to be going.

Sweet thanks! I eventually found my self there so I'll make sure I go back there for exploring. 
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on December 22, 2012, 05:06:28 PM
Just saw this video today o_O holy crap. Rings both bells by 14 minutes.....I was cringing at his falls through the back door of Blightown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0e5S2dakVU
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 23, 2012, 09:34:42 AM
Just saw this video today o_O holy crap. Rings both bells by 14 minutes.....I was cringing at his falls through the back door of Blightown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0e5S2dakVU

Pretty crazy run; guy sure doesn't waste any time.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 23, 2012, 08:14:44 PM
Dark Souls II: Prepare to Casual Trailer  :ganishka: Big laughs in the beginning, but it doesn't last...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvKXOUHxJZc

(some minor spoilers for those who haven't played DS)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Headofbowl on December 24, 2012, 12:52:05 AM
Dark Souls II: Prepare to Casual Trailer  :ganishka: Big laughs in the beginning, but it doesn't last...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvKXOUHxJZc

(some minor spoilers for those who haven't played DS)

Yeah, I have the same feeling, not sure if it was because I was drunk or because it was actually funny... Tbf, the build up to ornstein and smough was pretty hyped and tbh was a bit weak, so that bit had me tears.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 27, 2012, 03:43:07 PM
I really like this game, but when I start making any real progress I get a god damned Invader coming into my game and fucking things up. The first time an invader came into my game I had just died fighting the Terrace Demon, so not only did I die a second time I lost all my shit from the previous death.  :mozgus:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2012, 04:07:00 PM
I really like this game, but when I start making any real progress I get a god damned Invader coming into my game and fucking things up. The first time an invader came into my game I had just died fighting the Terrace Demon, so not only did I die a second time I lost all my shit from the previous death.  :mozgus:
Stop reversing hollow. Stay undead.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on December 27, 2012, 06:21:17 PM

Started the DLC over the weekend, I"m at the Chasm of the Abyss section. The Boss beat me, but I"ll give it another try on the weekend.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
Started the DLC over the weekend, I"m at the Chasm of the Abyss section. The Boss beat me, but I"ll give it another try on the weekend.
How'd  you fare against Artorias?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on December 27, 2012, 09:16:28 PM
How'd  you fare against Artorias?
He beat me around around 10 times. I almost beat him the second time but someone got on the way . That time he had only powered up once , he wasn't that strong yet. When I beat him he powered up 4 times but was slower. I don't have any if the weapons you can make with souls of the bosses, so I took all my armor and dodged most of the time, and hit him while he did that one arm thrust .
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 27, 2012, 09:18:46 PM
Stop reversing hollow. Stay undead.

Are there  any real benefits to reversing the hollow aside from lighting bonfires?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2012, 09:26:36 PM
Are there  any real benefits to reversing the hollow aside from lighting bonfires?
Sure, you get to summon guys like Solaire to aid you in big boss encounters. Other than that, I think I read once that there are some stat-related bonuses, but after doing a quick Google search, I couldn't verify that.

I played 99% of my game hollowed, and had an enjoyable experience. The few times I would kindle a bonfire as human and then trek out on a quest, some asshole would invade, and I would get ganked by Wrath of God. Fuuuuun :schierke:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: slan69 on December 28, 2012, 08:40:47 AM
I finally bought this game two days ago, so far so good. I beat the Asylum Demon without dying, I thought I would have died at least 3 times before that. I did however get my ass handed to me by a bunch of Spinal (Killer Instinct) looking skeletons. I wasn't expecting the giant skeleton at the Firelink Shrine though, I hauled ass back to the bonfire. :serpico:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 28, 2012, 04:43:12 PM
Here's an image gallery featuring every screenshot I took throughout both of my playthroughs of the game. Some spoilers of course: http://imgur.com/a/5ffpq#0
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 29, 2012, 03:54:19 PM
Here's an image gallery featuring every screenshot I took throughout both of my playthroughs of the game. Some spoilers of course: http://imgur.com/a/5ffpq#0
A lot of really good shots!

I just killed the Bell Tower Gargoyles and rang the bell. Currently getting fucked up by everything in the downtown part of the Undead Burg.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Infinte on December 29, 2012, 05:46:44 PM
Sure, you get to summon guys like Solaire to aid you in big boss encounters. Other than that, I think I read once that there are some stat-related bonuses, but after doing a quick Google search, I couldn't verify that.

I played 99% of my game hollowed, and had an enjoyable experience. The few times I would kindle a bonfire as human and then trek out on a quest, some asshole would invade, and I would get ganked by Wrath of God. Fuuuuun :schierke:

He can also get invaded by certain NPC which upon death drops certain armor sets and weapon like Maneater Mildred, Paladin Leeroy and Kirk, Knight of Thorns.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 29, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
He can also get invaded by certain NPC which upon death drops certain armor sets and weapon like Maneater Mildred, Paladin Leeroy and Kirk, Knight of Thorns.
Sure, those guys are reaaaaally easy to take down though.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 01, 2013, 05:11:05 PM
Gaping Dragon.  :schierke:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 01, 2013, 05:39:22 PM
Sure, those guys are reaaaaally easy to take down though.

The chick who asks you for the 2nd DLC Boss' soul is the only NPC character that I thought was really hard and dangerous (Shes not an invader either)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on January 01, 2013, 08:02:53 PM
Gaping Dragon.  :schierke:
The key here is pattern recognition. Keep a safe distance as many of his attacks will lock onto you and you need time to dodge his massive body. Then run in and attack when he's completed a movement. I'd recommend switching to two handed quickly before striking for these moments for maximum damage. Rinse and repeat. One of the easier Bosses really. He just looks intimidating.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 02, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
The key here is pattern recognition. Keep a safe distance as many of his attacks will lock onto you and you need time to dodge his massive body. Then run in and attack when he's completed a movement. I'd recommend switching to two handed quickly before striking for these moments for maximum damage. Rinse and repeat. One of the easier Bosses really. He just looks intimidating.

Yeah not a tough boss once you get use to those patterns. I am really loving this game a lot, it's what a modern Castlevania games should have been.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 02, 2013, 09:12:04 PM
Yeah not a tough boss once you get use to those patterns. I am really loving this game a lot, it's what a modern Castlevania games should have been.

Did you cut the tail for the weapon?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 02, 2013, 10:23:05 PM
Did you cut the tail for the weapon?
.... No...  :judo:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on January 02, 2013, 10:42:19 PM
Yeah not a tough boss once you get use to those patterns. I am really loving this game a lot, it's what a modern Castlevania games should have been.

Wow, I 100% agree with this statement. I had never thought about this before but I certainly agree.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: slan69 on January 02, 2013, 11:17:25 PM
Gaping Dragon.  :schierke:

I am about to fight that thing, hopefully with my trusty Zweihander it will be a piece of cake like the last boss.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 02, 2013, 11:36:54 PM
I am about to fight that thing, hopefully with my trusty Zweihander it will be a piece of cake like the last boss.

Don't forget the tail.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on January 03, 2013, 12:18:13 AM
Did you cut the tail for the weapon?
C'mon... He doesn't have to get it all in the first pass, ya know. That's the sort of thing y ou learn over time, and the fact that the tail drop for gaping dragon is an  end-game weapon implies that it's meant for people on their second run. Not people using a guide. Anyway that weapon is only good for end-game strength-based melee.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 03, 2013, 04:05:17 PM
C'mon... He doesn't have to get it all in the first pass, ya know. That's the sort of thing y ou learn over time, and the fact that the tail drop for gaping dragon is an  end-game weapon implies that it's meant for people on their second run. Not people using a guide. Anyway that weapon is only good for end-game strength-based melee.

yeah, I was unfair to Bob about it. I have been playing with regular weapons on my 3 playthroughs, but this time I decided to make Artorias greatsword. I'm liking it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on January 03, 2013, 04:25:32 PM
this time I decided to make Artorias greatsword. I'm liking it.
I have his sword, just not the stats to use it...  :farnese: It doesn't seem so great to me, but I can't deny that it would feel badass wielding that thing around.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 03, 2013, 05:29:49 PM
I have his sword, just not the stats to use it...  :farnese: It doesn't seem so great to me, but I can't deny that it would feel badass wielding that thing around.

it is not the greatest sword in the game, but if you upgrade it to +5 it is considerably strong. I also think aesthetically it doesn't look as cumbersome or too big as the dragon sword, or hammers.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: slan69 on January 03, 2013, 07:30:11 PM
Don't forget the tail.

Thanks for the heads up. I got the weapon but getting it is no easy task. The boss itself was incredibly easy for me but getting the tail is a bit tricky. You can only hit it about 2-3 times before he will do a tail sweep and nearly kill you. The weapon weighs 24 pounds, as Walter said, there is no point in getting it since you can't use it till your near the end of the game. I also have the Black Knights sword, does anyone know how high your strengh and dexterity have to be to use it?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on January 03, 2013, 07:35:18 PM
I also have the Black Knights sword, does anyone know how high your strengh and dexterity have to be to use it?
20 str., 18 dex. It shows you if you check the item description in-game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: slan69 on January 03, 2013, 08:14:04 PM
20 str., 18 dex. It shows you if you check the item description in-game.

........ Now I feel like a terd. :farnese: Thanks though, hahaha.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 03, 2013, 09:13:04 PM
yeah, I was unfair to Bob about it. I have been playing with regular weapons on my 3 playthroughs, but this time I decided to make Artorias greatsword. I'm liking it.

It's cool Bro. Right now as I see it Londo is infested and I'm the exterminator.  :badbone:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: TheBranded1 on January 05, 2013, 09:32:30 PM

Finally beat Manus and Kalameet in one play today. Kalameet was easy, I didn't go for the tail but I just wanted to beat it. Manus was a bit harder, because of the limited space, but other than their strenght to give high damage their attack pattern isn't that great. I also decided to take on a fight with Jester and got his gear.

So go and talk to the Mushroom and warp to talk to Dusk's summon sign  :guts:

With the black knight sword
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8359/darksoulsd.jpg)

Sword of Artorias, all those swords also reminded me of the scene in volume 21

(http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6761/darksouls1.jpg)


(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/583/darksouls2f.jpg)



Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: slan69 on January 18, 2013, 07:18:18 AM
Sorry if this has already been posted, it's pretty funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3d94pxVRQU
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 21, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
So Executioner Smough  and Dragon Slayer Ornstein are killing my character and my relationship with my girlfriend. What do I do?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on January 21, 2013, 02:30:09 PM
So Executioner Smough  and Dragon Slayer Ornstein are killing my character and my relationship with my girlfriend. What do I do?
Here's what I did:

I took out Ornstein first, since he was easiest to draw away from Smough. After that, just whittled Smough away over time.

My guy, GAISERIC, is a dex-heavy melee with a taste for curved swords, now using a newly minted Queelag's Furysword+2. My armor isn't the best, so I depend on rolling and timing to survive most fights. Some others spec as tanks, like Aaz, or casters like a friend of mine, and have less trouble on other fights.
The trick is to focus on only one of them, and draw them away from each other, using the columns to split them up, or keep fatty busy with his slow attacks while youre off in a corner pounding Ornstein.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on January 27, 2013, 03:59:54 PM
Thanks Walt! I am happy to report that I beat Smough and Ornstein to death with a sword.

Additionally, I've killed the Stray Demon, Undead Dragon, Moonlight Butterfly, and the Hydra.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: slan69 on February 20, 2013, 10:02:07 PM
So I finished Darks Souls last night, the final boss was incredibly easy for me, it took me literally 20 seconds to kill him. I was a little dissapointed in how abruptly it ended and showed the credits, but I guess there wasn't much else to show really. I was happy to see that Motoi Sakuraba was the composer for this game, I would have never guessed.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on February 20, 2013, 10:56:37 PM
So I finished Darks Souls last night, the final boss was incredibly easy for me, it took me literally 20 seconds to kill him. I was a little dissapointed in how abruptly it ended and showed the credits, but I guess there wasn't much else to show really. I was happy to see that Motoi Sakuraba was the composer for this game, I would have never guessed.

Your new favorite game from 2011?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on February 21, 2013, 03:21:15 AM
So I finished Darks Souls last night, the final boss was incredibly easy for me, it took me literally 20 seconds to kill him.
*Shrug* Different mileage for everyone, I suppose. As I said earlier in the thread, some bosses were extremely tough for me (let's say, Boss A), and others easy (call him Boss B), and I read online that people had the exact opposite experience, Boss B was a bitch, and Boss A was a breeze.

Quote
I was a little dissapointed in how abruptly it ended and showed the credits, but I guess there wasn't much else to show really.
And indeed, the ending is abrupt (well, depending on which one you got--yes, there are two endings), but I didn't really expect much more than that by the end of that game. Anyway, the coolest stuff about the world is in the details of Dark Souls, not the final destination.

As for not much else to show, I would have appreciated a quick glimpse into what that next new age would look like. Think FF7's ending with Red XIII in Midgar.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: asic on April 08, 2013, 08:33:31 AM
Looks like we will know more about Dark Souls 2 on Thursday!
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Dark-Souls-2-More-Information-Coming-April-11th-54404.html

Regarding the story in Dark Souls 1 I highly suggest people to watch the videos from:
http://www.youtube.com/user/VaatiVidya?feature=watch

All his DS videos are pretty damn good and there was a lot of info I didn't know about. If anyone want to coop a new playthrough with some fun builds/restrictions I am ready (PC version)  :rakshas:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Truder on April 08, 2013, 08:56:58 AM
I'm excited! I beat Dark Souls just a minute ago for the first time and and i must say it was a (mostly) fun experience.  :serpico:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Draculoid on April 09, 2013, 02:49:38 AM
Congrats Truder ! Just in time for the new Dark Souls 2 news landing on the 11th!

Just posting a freaking awesome video that was posted today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi44ajVrmSE&list=HL1365479247&feature=mh_lolz
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: asic on April 17, 2013, 12:16:07 AM
Someone pointed out that Dark Souls/Demons Souls was influenced by Berserk, not sure if this has been discussed here before but here is a picture of it.

Not sure if this was said by the Director or if it's fans spotting similarities but interesting nonetheless.

Quote from Miyazaki
"During that period I asked him to produce some fantasy armour, and among his designs there was a large, overweight character like Bazuso from Berserk."

I think it's pretty clear that Berserk influenced the artists and the director a great deal, just another reason to love the Soul series.

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/7/77538/2360331-1317501018006.jpg)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on April 17, 2013, 01:47:58 AM
I do think there's a connection to Berserk in the Souls series, but it's not what I'd call a fundamental one. And the ones depicted in the picture are pretty weak and superfluous connections at best.

Iron maidens aren't exclusive to Berserk, and neither are musty tombs filled with torture chambers. Salamanders were legendary creatures associated with fire long before Berserk came along; that winged creature bears little resemblance to the one specifically portrayed in the Qliphoth; and that demon baby is quite a bit different from the one we know in Berserk

BUT ... there are quite a lot of comparisons that could be made to Berserk in Dark Souls. The one most people readily compare is Artorias to Guts when Berserk's Armor has been unleashed. There's also a blacksmith named Rickert (I mean, come on, can we rest our case...?), theres a hill of swords of sorts; the "wheelies" in the Catacombs are straight out of Volume 18, and the "cursed darksign," sure does sound like the brand. And there's also one that occurred to me during the podcast this week, Ganishka reincarnated compared to The Bed of Chaos. That one's less apparent visually than thematically.

When you get down to it, both Berserk and the Souls series are just great fantasy worlds that likely drew from the same well. So it makes sense they'd have some kind of relationship. But personally, I think most of the connections I've listed above are indeed homages to Berserk.

It's also why any serious Berserk fan should at least give Dark Souls a try... :daiba:

PS: I could probably talk about Berserk and Dark Souls all day... (http://skullknight.net/forum/Themes/classic/images/skullyON.gif)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lenlo on May 04, 2013, 01:12:16 AM
I  love the Soul's series, though I have not played it since I finally beat it awhile ago. It loved every minute of this frustrating, rage inducing game. Same with Demon Soul's.

I ran through both as a heavy armor, 2 handed sword wielding knight. Couldn't dodge for shit but I could do a slug fest pretty well.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on May 31, 2013, 12:26:29 AM
For those who have beaten the game, I discovered a 3D Map viewer, where you can see how all the different regions of the game are interconnected, and explore them up close from an overhead perspective.

I recorded a video that starts off zoomed in on the game's final area, then zooms out. Incredible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAAeigKO-7E&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on May 31, 2013, 11:19:28 AM
For those who have beaten the game, I discovered a 3D Map viewer, where you can see how all the different regions of the game are interconnected, and explore them up close from an overhead perspective.

I recorded a video that starts off zoomed in on the game's final area, then zooms out. Incredible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAAeigKO-7E&feature=youtu.be

That's pretty neat. The level design in that game was superb.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 07, 2013, 06:06:45 PM
Dark Souls for PC is just $12 this weekend at GreenManGaming (will give you a code to use on Steam).

Link: http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/action/dark-souls-prepare-die-edition-na/
Use this at checkout: GMG20-JLKSA-7A8HA

As I've said many times before on the podcast, this game is worth many times this amount.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on June 07, 2013, 07:07:30 PM
That's pretty neat. The level design in that game was superb.

I love how well everything connects.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 09, 2013, 02:24:30 PM
Started playing Dark Souls again to work my way through the DLC (nope, I still haven't finished it). Manus does not fuck around!

It's amazing to me how each successive boss in Dark Souls (with a few exceptions) seems like the toughest in the game. When really, it's just an illusion as you're still learning their patterns and movements.

The DLC has a very cool zone, and they populated it with some of the coolest parts of the DS lore. Very pleased.

Update: Just beat it. Wow, brutal final fight in the DLC. Just finished it all. It should definitely be played by fans of the game... This means you, Aaz.   :azan:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2013, 06:46:38 PM
New Dark Souls II Trailer premiered at E3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EHgUuhOsHoA

Embarrassing HYPE music, amazing on-screen action.


WHOOPS! Ignore this, go talk about Dark Souls II's latest trailer in the official thread. (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=13908.0)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on June 10, 2013, 07:19:14 PM
It's amazing to me how each successive boss in Dark Souls (with a few exceptions) seems like the toughest in the game. When really, it's just an illusion as you're still learning their patterns and movements.
What bosses would you say were the exceptions?

I remember playing through the first time and thinking how tough the Taurus Demon is but how easy the Bell Tower Gargoyles are (I beat them on my first try). Current play, those Bell Tower Gargoyles killed me about ten or more times.

I love how memorable the bosses are, which shows from just how tough they can be. You really get a feeling that you are fighting ancient warriors, demons, and gods.

New Dark Souls II Trailer premiered at E3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EHgUuhOsHoA

I'll check this out at home.  :ubik:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2013, 10:57:11 PM
What bosses would you say were the exceptions?

I remember playing through the first time and thinking how tough the Taurus Demon is but how easy the Bell Tower Gargoyles are (I beat them on my first try). Current play, those Bell Tower Gargoyles killed me about ten or more times.
I think every boss felt like the toughest one yet except for Pinwheel (absurdly easy...), Iron Golem (even though he beat my ass, it was for a technicality!  :ganishka:), and Nito (who I still feel got a little ripped off in challenge, given how cool he seems in the opening sequence).

At the other end of the spectrum, some bosses that didn't get any buildup were really tricky... like the Taurus Capra Demon and Centipede Demon. Those guys come out of nowhere and kick your ass in seconds.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on June 10, 2013, 11:18:29 PM
I've thought long and hard about the catacombs and pinwheel, and the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Pinwheel and the catacombs are supposed to be taken on after the depths but before blighttown.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on June 13, 2013, 02:47:57 PM
I think every boss felt like the toughest one yet except for Pinwheel (absurdly easy...), Iron Golem (even though he beat my ass, it was for a technicality!  :ganishka:), and Nito (who I still feel got a little ripped off in challenge, given how cool he seems in the opening sequence).

At the other end of the spectrum, some bosses that didn't get any buildup were really tricky... like the Taurus Capra Demon and Centipede Demon. Those guys come out of nowhere and kick your ass in seconds.

I haven't gotten that far yet, but you wouldn't be the first person to tell me that Pinwheel is "absurdly easy." You really think that Iron Golem is easy? I found the Gaping Dragon to be an easier boss (ignoring my previous post where I said otherwise), or maybe they are on par with easiness once you get over how tough they look.

At this second attempt of Dark Souls, I am on the verge of breaching Sen's Fortress, again! 
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 13, 2013, 04:01:52 PM
At this second attempt of Dark Souls, I am on the verge of breaching Sen's Fortress, again!
That's right where things get fun  :guts:

Iron Golem... yeah I think he's pretty easy.  Has an easily exploitable pattern, telegraphs all of his moves. The only challenge is in getting out of the way of his attacks, because they have a high knockback power (chews through your poise), and has a big range. Get over that, and it's a cakewalk.

My mistake at first in approaching him was trying to block his attacks. I kept flying off the side of the tower.  :mozgus:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on June 13, 2013, 04:42:59 PM
That's right where things get fun  :guts:
It's one of my favorite sections in the game, but mostly because of how many funny moments it has. Everywhere you turn there is a lizard man getting knocked off a bridge or getting run over by a bowlder. If there was more any evidence to back it up, I'd make the claim that this was inspired by Wile E. Coyote.  :schnoz:

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Iron Golem... yeah I think he's pretty easy.  Has an easily exploitable pattern, telegraphs all of his moves. The only challenge is in getting out of the way of his attacks, because they have a high knockback power (chews through your poise), and has a big range. Get over that, and it's a cakewalk.
Much like the Gaping Dragon, he just looks tough. I remember thinking that a lot of the bosses were getting to be significantly easier, and then I met Smough and Ornstein. I am not looking forward to those guys.  :sad:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 13, 2013, 05:20:17 PM
and then I met Smough and Ornstein. I am not looking forward to those guys.  :sad:
It's been a while since I fought them, but play extremely defensively until you've knocked one of them out (Ornstein first, if you want to play it safe). If they're both within range of hitting you, lock on to one and just keep backing up until you're only facing off with one of them. Then whittle them away a hit or two at a time. Each of their attacks has a long delay between them, so there are always opportunities to retreat and heal.

They're only really a pain when they gang up on you, so try to put yourself in a position where it's not possible for both of them to be within range of you.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on June 13, 2013, 07:09:05 PM
then I met Smough and Ornstein. I am not looking forward to those guys.  :sad:
It really pays off to focus on one until they're dead. I don't know how much you know of the development of the battle, but splitting your damage between the two might throw a wrench in your strategy as the fight goes on. If you can summon a phantom it makes the fight a cake walk (as long as the phantom is competent and isn't one-shotted). I think the hardest part of the fight is just getting it down to one enemy.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on June 14, 2013, 08:15:24 AM
I think the hardest part of the fight is just getting it down to one enemy.

That's interesting, because I never had problem killing the first one, it's offing the second that was a pain for me.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 14, 2013, 12:00:31 PM
That's interesting, because I never had problem killing the first one, it's offing the second that was a pain for me.
Depends who you off first.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on June 14, 2013, 12:07:20 PM
Depends who you off first.

Yeah obviously.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: asic on June 14, 2013, 04:25:58 PM
Anyone playing PC version? I'd love to do some coop action or pvp  :SK:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 14, 2013, 07:03:02 PM
Anyone playing PC version? I'd love to do some coop action or pvp  :SK:
I didn't even know co-op was a thing until Googling just now after your post. Neat!

I'd love to, but it would involve scheduling time to play with someone, and unless that's 1 a.m., it's unlikely I'd be able to do that with my current work/baby schedule.  :sad:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on June 17, 2013, 07:54:49 PM
Fun multiplayer experience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKSbj43xeKI
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 17, 2013, 08:06:46 PM
Fun multiplayer experience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKSbj43xeKI
"Was that guy wearing pants before...?"  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lenlo on June 17, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
The pants.... So funny.

that was fun to watch.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2013, 03:50:50 PM
Soul level 132 now, just started my third playthrough. Game still has its hooks into me, and ive been playing it pretty much for a year now.  :daiba:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: NightCrawler on June 27, 2013, 04:33:00 PM
Soul level 132 now, just started my third playthrough. Game still has its hooks into me, and ive been playing it pretty much for a year now.  :daiba:

Wow. You'll regret it on your deathbed.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2013, 04:58:20 PM
Wow. You'll regret it on your deathbed.
More than the 12,000 posts I've made here..?

Hey, almost 13,000!  :void:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on June 27, 2013, 05:15:55 PM
Soul level 132 now, just started my third playthrough. Game still has its hooks into me, and ive been playing it pretty much for a year now.  :daiba:

Wow. You'll regret it on your deathbed.

Dying last words: "I regret nothing!"

2nd playthrough news: Smough and Ornstein.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lenlo on June 27, 2013, 09:31:23 PM
Just beat Artorias in the DLC. Man how I missed running into a fight blind and learning by just fighting him over and over and over again.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on July 01, 2013, 04:44:17 AM
Ornstein and Smough on New Game++. Was down to one more hit on Ornstein (second form, of course), and he could do me in with one hit as well... Put some distance and a column between us, went to heal, and BOOM, he used an attack that crossed nearly the entire arena in the amount of time it took me to initiate an estus, Must have hit juuust above the blocking range of the column too. STAB. YOU DIED. :mozgus: I just laughed though.  :ganishka:

This little episode aside, the game's way too easy at this point. I only die when I'm careless. Can kill most normals in 1-2 hits. Bosses are a cakewalk. It actually felt pretty bad putting Sif down without any trouble whatsoever... This is not me bragging. This is me lamenting one of the core tenets of the game being lost to replays. While enemy health and boss health does scale up in New Game+ mode, the challenge just isn't the same. THe only point in replaying is to catch all the stuff you missed the first( or second) time through.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on July 02, 2013, 05:23:24 PM
STAB. YOU DIED.
Sounds familiar...Ornstein, you bastard!

This is me lamenting one of the core tenets of the game being lost to replays.
I've read it only gets worse with each replay. The difficulty scaling has diminishing returns until something like replay#11 at which point it just stops.

I've never gotten through a NG+ because I'm always wanting to try new builds. Almost finished a Simon Belmont run using nothing but whips, throwing knives, and holy water (fire bombs)! :ganishka:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on July 02, 2013, 07:18:24 PM
Almost finished a Simon Belmont run using nothing but whips, throwing knives, and holy water (fire bombs)! :ganishka:
Holy shit! That sounds awesome, but also super challenging. Whips are really underpowered, as are the throwing knives. I can't imagine taking on something with a lot of HP like Iron Golem with it. Still... I'm intrigued!

I've made different builds too, but I've found that I'm not strict enough to force myself into a playstyle that doesn't suit my tendencies. So I've ditched my spellcaster because I found ranged attacks boring, and I've ditched my Guts build because I missed my fast weapons. My favorite playstyle involves a lot of dexterity supplemented with strength.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on July 02, 2013, 08:08:52 PM
Last I remember I was on NG+++ (4th Playthrough) with a level 200+ STR and INT character. My first play through was mostly strength based, but after that I switched focus to INT and being a high level spell caster in this game is the most OP thing ever for PVE.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on July 02, 2013, 08:29:02 PM
being a high level spell caster in this game is the most OP thing ever for PVE.
Doesn't that make it... less fun?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lenlo on July 02, 2013, 10:59:43 PM
Ive only played it through 2 before the DLC. Once as a heavy armor and two handed sword user, slugging it out hit for hit with most of the bosses and the other as a Pyromancer. Never tried fast dex builds though. Just were not my thing.

Im incredibly tempted to do a great bow play through though just so I can shoot things with Goughs Greatbow. Seems like it would be pretty challenging to.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lenlo on July 19, 2013, 03:27:34 AM
My friend talked me into a silly challenge and, being the masochistic DS addict that I am, I accepted. The challenge is to play through the game at SL1, without leveling up once. Ive made it to Artorias so far and have been bashing my face against his steel plated arms stone Colosseum walls for days.

I have to beat it though... I cant just leave a challenge started unfinished.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on July 20, 2013, 01:25:08 AM
I've received a few questions about how to best play Dark Souls on PC, so I'm putting together a mini-guide. As great as the game is, the out-of-the-box experience is terrible. It is without a doubt one of the worst console ports in PC gaming history. However, once it's properly configured, it plays like a dream, and is widely regarded as THE BEST version of the game available.

There are two important steps to achieve this:

STEP ONE: DSfix This is a user-made configuration hack that will unlock the graphics resolution and framerate. This is what makes the game look its best. You really wouldn't want to play the game without this.

1) Grab it here: http://skullknight.net/images/DSfix201.zip
2) Extract the files to your Dark Souls directory. If you got it via Steam, the directory is in ...Program Files/Steam/steamapps/common/Dark Souls Prepare to Die Edition/DATA
3) Open DSfix.ini there are instructions inside, but all you want to do here is scale the settings to accommodate the power of your PC. If you want to simply run it with the settings that I use, here's that file: http://skullknight.net/images/DSfix.ini . Just replace yours with it. Runs too slow? Scale down the resolution. Simple.

STEP TWO: Use a Controller
While the game is playable with keyboard and mouse, it is far from optimal. Even the game's description in the Steam store recommends you use a controller.

What I did was just purchase an XBox 360 controller for Windows. It worked with zero configuration requirements.

However, if you have another controller, you'll want to download x360ce (click the one marked  x360ce.App-2.1.2.191.zip (https://code.google.com/p/x360ce/downloads/list) ) and extract that into the DATA directory listed above in the DSfix instructions. What this does is emulate a 360 controller's performance, and allows  you to bypass the in-game configuration process, which blows.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gobolatula on July 20, 2013, 05:55:20 AM
You're such a nice and helpful dude, Walter. Thank you very much.  :casca:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Truder on July 31, 2013, 05:21:15 PM
some interesting cut content from Dark Souls! really well done video. (and he has other great dark souls videos as well. if you guys haven't already seen them)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RkLstvjmUk
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on July 31, 2013, 06:32:52 PM
some interesting cut content from Dark Souls! really well done video. (and he has other great dark souls videos as well. if you guys haven't already seen them)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RkLstvjmUk
Neat stuff he cobbled together, but I can totally understand why it was cut. Had Oscar remained in the game as intended, the ending sequence would be rather anti climactic.

With this material, the parallels between Oscar and Ostrava in Demon's Souls are pretty apparent.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on August 01, 2013, 07:52:03 PM
(and he has other great dark souls videos as well. if you guys haven't already seen them)

His lore videos are fantastic. There's a certain amount of speculation to fill in some holes here and there but they are incredibly thoughtful and stay true to the information given by item descriptions. Really awesome when you want to refresh or need a bit of clarity on a character.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on August 07, 2013, 06:35:46 AM
Since I've had is game for quite a while ,but didn't really have time to get into it. My vacation will start today and Dark Souls is what I want to finish until GTA V, Anyway I am starting with Knight and wondered if anyone could give some tips like what should I stuck up on or what should I look out for. Also about Artorias of Abyss dlc, are the new zones are available from start?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on August 07, 2013, 12:48:16 PM
Anyway I am starting with Knight
Knight is a solid start. Gives you survivability. You should know though that the class you choose doesn't necessarily determine how you will play out the rest of the game. The more important choice for that comes each time you level up, and where you choose to spend your stat upgrades.

If you want to play a melee guy invest in strength, endurance and vitality. Depending on the weapon  you choose, alternate strength and dexterity.

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like what should I stuck up on or what should I look out for.
A lot of this game is about being observant, both with the environment for traps and direction, and observation of enemy patterns and weaknesses. You are going to die. Don't worry about that or get too frustrated. You are going to lose thousands of souls from dying twice. Don't worry about that either. You will never lose anything you can't get back with some basic farming. Don't think of death as a punishment, or that you "lost" progress. You were just taught  how NOT to play on the next run.

Probably the thing I love most about Dark Souls is that you're always getting better. There's a very high skill ceiling. You feel yourself getting better at the game over time, and a huge part of that is learning from mistakes.

The other challenge of the game is execution. Pick a weapon type you like, and stick with it for a while so you are familiar with its range, speed, different attack patterns based on whether you are one or two handing the weapon, etc. If you're starting out, I think the Longsword will carry you quite a long way, and you can get that relatively early in the game.

Be vigilant about upgrades, and learn the system that allows you to upgrade them at blacksmiths. Essentially you will need to collect Titanite Shards of varying quality through enemy drops or purchases from vendors. Then take those to a blacksmith and have him upgrade your weapons.  It gets more complicated later on, but that's the gist. I didn't fully grasp the weapon stats and the upgrade system until my second playthrough... So it's not vital, but certainly helps.

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Also about Artorias of Abyss dlc, are the new zones are available from start?
Nope. You wouldn't want to do them immediately anyway. Access to them will unlock after the Lordvessel. But getting to the area isn't straightforward at all. Just uh... when you get to the Lake, explore it pretty thoroughly (but don't fall in...!). That will do for now. There's another step, but that's the KEY one.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on August 07, 2013, 01:55:38 PM
Thanks for tips Walter ,tomorrow will be fun day I suppose  :ganishka: . I will probably visit this thread a lot in coming days.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on August 13, 2013, 08:24:05 PM
Two spoilerish screenshots for those who haven't yet beaten the DLC. I recently finished it with my Guts character build. Here are two funny shots from that adventure:

1 (http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls_guts2.jpg) (Note his health. And mine)
2 (http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls_guts1.jpg)

Gotta say, I've found a pure strength weapon build pretty boring overall. I had a lot more fun with dexterity. More rolling required, more risk/reward. I can tank pretty much everything with Guts, and end up killing normal enemies in 1-2 hits. Too easy. The fact that this is technically my fourth playthrough might also be a factor though...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Skeleton on August 13, 2013, 08:30:28 PM
2 (http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls_guts1.jpg)

That shot is great.   :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on August 13, 2013, 08:37:15 PM
That shot is great.   :guts:
Hehe thanks. I almost always do that with bosses. I just forget to take screenshots. I found him pretty damned easy... considering the circumstances.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on August 14, 2013, 07:44:32 PM
Grave Lord Nito is more like Lame Lord... Um... Lame-o.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on August 15, 2013, 12:14:37 AM
Grave Lord Nito is more like Lame Lord... Um... Lame-o.
I was also pretty disappointed with him, given the build up and his character design.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on September 30, 2013, 07:55:10 AM
Finally got around playing DS over the weekend, ah those memories of losing thousand and thousands of souls in Undead Parish. Kinda stuck atm. I am trying to farm as much as I can to decently lvl and have already saved quite a few Titanite Shards for blacksmithing and proceed with executing Black Knight but I always mess something up and I end up losing souls ;_;. I'm still not sure if I lack in executing parry at right time(no idea when that is) or just there's some small input lag. Also does anyone know where could I find Bonfire after that Boar mini boss? That underground passage with those zombies,is annoying as hell.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2013, 10:14:37 AM
Also does anyone know where could I find Bonfire after that Boar mini boss? That underground passage with those zombies,is annoyand as hell.

There's a bonfire not too far before the mini-boss, but it requires you to have slain the dragon on the bridge. If you haven't done that, then you must press forward through the underground passage (the enemies there aren't very strong, they only rely on surprising you but if you're careful they're no trouble), and then after that through a few hallways where two or three knights are roaming. Passed that you'll find an open court with a huge knight and a few skeletons in it. On the right side of that court, opposite the cathedral, is a path going far back and then down into a building. There's a bonfire there, just above a blacksmith.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on September 30, 2013, 10:49:39 AM
There's a bonfire not too far before the mini-boss, but it requires you to have slain the dragon on the bridge. If you haven't done that, then you must press forward through the underground passage (the enemies there aren't very strong, they only rely on surprising you but if you're careful they're no trouble), and then after that through a few hallways where two or three knights are roaming. Passed that you'll find an open court with a huge knight and a few skeletons in it. On the right side of that court, opposite the cathedral, is a path going far back and then down into a building. There's a bonfire there, just above a blacksmith.
I still haven't slayed the dragon ,it's enough for me just to appear on bridge and I'm close to dying from his fire attack. I will try getting there. Also is it possible to get to the blacksmith from that bonfire ,like stairs or something? Because since bonfire I'm tied to atm is near stairs from which I can get up to Undead Parish and closest accessible Blacksmith is long waaaay off near Firelink Shrine.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2013, 12:41:02 PM
There's a bonfire not too far before the mini-boss, but it requires you to have slain the dragon on the bridge.
That bonfire is accessible regardless of the Wyvern. I've certainly never beaten that guy. Got his tail, of course. He'll fly off once you get past him and/or use the bonfire.

I still haven't slayed the dragon ,it's enough for me just to appear on bridge and I'm close to dying from his fire attack. I will try getting there. Also is it possible to get to the blacksmith from that bonfire ,like stairs or something? Because since bonfire I'm tied to atm is near stairs from which I can get up to Undead Parish and closest accessible Blacksmith is long waaaay off near Firelink Shrine.
Like Aaz said, there's another bonfire further into Undead Parish. It's really not too far from that bonfire behind the Wyvern. Up stairs, past the area with the boar, through (or around, two paths) the Chapel and to the right is a long pathway surrounded by trees. You won't miss it. Down there is the next bonfire. Takes only a few minutes to run to, if you're desperate.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on September 30, 2013, 04:19:24 PM
Also, it sounds like your current bonfire has stairs you can't climb up  Are you at the bonfire before the taurus demon in undead burg. You did find the shortcut under the dragon bridge right? There is a ladder you can kick down so that from that bonfire, you can just climb up the ladder and be right at the dragon.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on September 30, 2013, 05:54:56 PM
Also, it sounds like your current bonfire has stairs you can't climb up  Are you at the bonfire before the taurus demon in undead burg. You did find the shortcut under the dragon bridge right? There is a ladder you can kick down so that from that bonfire, you can just climb up the ladder and be right at the dragon.
I'm at bonfire where there are stairs next to exit which lead up to Undead Parish and that tower with Black Knight on top of it. I know only about that way under bridge which leads to those rats. I did some research and found out about Drake Sword ,I will probably try to get that tommorow since stat wise it's almost 3x stronger and requires measly stats.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2013, 06:32:48 PM
I know only about that way under bridge which leads to those rats.
The first bonfire  you found in Undead Burg can be accessed under the Wyvern bridge if you kick down a ladder. It's a good shortcut in the early game if you're trying to get back to Firelink.

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I did some research and found out about Drake Sword ,I will probably try to get that tommorow since stat wise it's almost 3x stronger and requires measly stats.
Drake Sword will serve you well in the beginning, but it's somewhat double-edged, because it's powerful and quick, but doesn't scale well (on top of base damage, most weapons scale with your stats, from A-E, check the item description). So by the time you'll need more power and switch to another weapon, you'll find that (almost) every other sword in the game is slower, and requires more finesse to use.

Still, my rule of thumb on weapons in this game is to fuck dps—use whatever weapon you're comfortable with. Each one has a different moveset and different weight/feel. So get comfy with one and stick to the ones you like. If you end up liking a weapon but find it to be not powerful enough, then it'll force you to get better.  :guts:

Personally, I've always loved the dexterity weapons like falchions. I just like the moveset and the ability to attack and move around quickly. Though I quickly realized during my strength build playthrough that strength weapons turn most bosses into a joke.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2013, 06:43:48 PM
That bonfire is accessible regardless of the Wyvern. I've certainly never beaten that guy. Got his tail, of course. He'll fly off once you get past him and/or use the bonfire.

Well, yeah, having beaten it if you prefer, same thing. The bonfire is only accessible once you get past it, whether it's by dodging/killing/etc.

Still, my rule of thumb on weapons in this game is to fuck dps—use whatever weapon you're comfortable with. Each one has a different moveset and different weight/feel. So get comfy with one and stick to the ones you like.

Objectively though the Drake Sword is completely overpowered on a first playthrough and there's hardly a better choice at that point in the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2013, 06:49:18 PM
Objectively though the Drake Sword is completely overpowered on a first playthrough and there's hardly a better choice at that point in the game.
It is for the first 30-40 levels I'd say. By that point, there are better options, and it has everything to do with the fact that the weapon doesn't scale. I think there are a number of overpowered weapons in the game, the Drake Sword just being among them. Maybe even in the lower tier. It just gets a lot of attention because it's the FIRST one you come across, and most people (90% or so I'd say) only know about it through the Internet.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on September 30, 2013, 06:59:20 PM
It is for the first 30-40 levels I'd say. By that point, there are better options, and it has everything to do with the fact that the weapon doesn't scale. I think there are a number of overpowered weapons in the game, the Drake Sword just being among them. Maybe even in the lower tier. It just gets a lot of attention because it's the FIRST one you come across, and most people (90% or so I'd say) only know about it through the Internet.
I guess it would suit me best atm ,since I prefer being more on defensive with my knight atm.  I don't think that a lot of people actually would think of attacking dragons tail ,I kinda felt like trying that but had crosbow without arrows and accidently killed the npc who was seeling arrows ,I recklessly destroyed those creates and thought he was a mob ,so yeah ,he's dead and won't respawn. Though I'll try getting some at blacksmith. I think there was some greatsword you could get fairly soon at beginning too Grave-something sword I think,I think it was releated to first covenant.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2013, 07:02:48 PM
Though I'll try getting some at blacksmith.
There are plenty of NPCs that sell arrows. Don't worry. Also, I rarely used arrows. I can really only think of one scenario, and it only required a few.

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I think there was some greatsword you could get fairly soon at beginning too Grave-something sword I think,I think it was releated to first covenant.
That's not too early in the game. It's also one of the weirder weapons you can get.  Not super-practical, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2013, 07:14:03 PM
It is for the first 30-40 levels I'd say. By that point, there are better options, and it has everything to do with the fact that the weapon doesn't scale.

Until you find the lightning spear, if you upgrade it a bit.

I think there are a number of overpowered weapons in the game, the Drake Sword just being among them. Maybe even in the lower tier. It just gets a lot of attention because it's the FIRST one you come across

That's what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on September 30, 2013, 07:31:00 PM
Until you find the lightning spear, if you upgrade it a bit.
*Shrug* I never used it. I don't like spears. But yeah, good base damage on that, but doesn't scale.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on September 30, 2013, 07:53:44 PM
*Shrug* I never used it. I don't like spears. But yeah, good base damage on that, but doesn't scale.

It's funny for a while, different. But yeah I moved on from it quickly enough myself. I like swords better. :guts:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on October 01, 2013, 12:15:10 AM
I think there was some greatsword you could get fairly soon at beginning too Grave-something sword I think,I think it was releated to first covenant.

Yeah, the Gravelord sword (it's a curved great sword). You can suicide run into the catacombs and get it if you know what you're doing. If you're good you can get it within 10 minutes of starting a new game. Problem is it takes a lot to wield, and even then you'll be two-handing it for awhile. Its got some great power for early game, but that's balanced out by being vulnerable and slow, but its moveset is great since it's got a thrust (heavy attack).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 01, 2013, 12:33:39 AM
that's balanced out by being vulnerable and slow, but its moveset is great since it's got a thrust (heavy attack).
Thrust is nice, but that's pretty much all that sword has going for it. The other moves are too slow for them to be practical, particularly for someone on their very first run. I consider it one of the many gimmick swords in the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Johnstantine on October 14, 2013, 08:51:15 PM
I saw this game on XBL. I've read reviews of its difficulty and seems like it would be something hard to get in to.

I have a bunch of credit on XBL, so I think I might give it a shot.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Sankari on October 14, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
Love this game. Its really addictive, in a good way. There are parts where you must be online to get through. I won't give spoilers, but its a very complex game, lots of dungeons, secret passages, hidden paths. All the while. everything on the screen is trying to kill you.

It took me a couple hours to get the "feel" of the game. The PVE and PVP is definitely not easy. Through and through , its a gem of a game.

I'm currently on the DLC path on PC , the quest of Knight Artorias etc.
I love how the story is not "in your face" You must seek the story , and its a beautiful tale, truly an amazing RPG.

Ps  . for anyone that is interested in getting figures/statues, this guy was the official sculptor for the limited edition statues, hes currently making more characters :

https://www.facebook.com/PeterNordstromOriginalStatues?fref=ts
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 14, 2013, 11:45:23 PM
I saw this game on XBL. I've read reviews of its difficulty and seems like it would be something hard to get in to.
Most people overstate its difficulty. The game doesn't hold your hand, so at first it appears extremely challenging. But it gets easier as you become more comfortable with the way the game is played.

Hard to get into? Yeah. But my it's my favorite game of this past generation. Learning the ropes is just the payment for entry to an absolutely amazing game.

There are parts where you must be online to get through.
I've yet to use player help (PvE) at all, and I'm on my 5th playthrough.

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It took me a couple hours to get the "feel" of the game. The PVE and PVP is definitely not easy. Through and through , its a gem of a game.
Yeah, I'd say it was about 5-6 hours before the game had really sunk its teeth into me, and after that point I was just in love. Before that, the game felt awkward, the systems were (and still are!) weird and unclear, and the lore hard to piece together. But give it time.

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I love how the story is not "in your face" You must seek the story , and its a beautiful tale, truly an amazing RPG.
I have a love/hate relationship with it, personally. It bugs me that to fully understand the story you have to really be a hawk for item descriptions, and really it requires two or three playthroughs if you want to get EVERYTHING understood. That being said, there's nothing like figuring something out yourself, and having the world design itself tell its story without words.

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Ps  . for anyone that is interested in getting figures/statues, this guy was the official sculptor for the limited edition statues, hes currently making more characters :

https://www.facebook.com/PeterNordstromOriginalStatues?fref=ts
These are fantastic, thanks! I might just get the Artorias bust for my desk.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: IncantatioN on October 15, 2013, 03:26:13 AM
Got some free time (off from work and caught up with my movie marathon) to play the game today. At Undead Burg now and it's pretty challenging overall. I think I lost my Shield and Flask cos I died about 3 times trying to get past that Asylum Demon, it's kinda scary ='( ... oh I'm playing Knight class. From the educational stuff (red parts in the game), I was told about locking on a target but I couldn't find a button for it on the joystick, any tip? Same with the jump attack.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on October 15, 2013, 03:32:08 AM
Got some free time (off from work and caught up with my movie marathon) to play the game today. At Undead Burg now and it's pretty challenging overall. I think I lost my Shield and Flask cos I died about 3 times trying to get past that Asylum Demon, it's kinda scary ='( ... oh I'm playing Knight class.
You don't lose equipment or flasks regardless of how you play. When you die and can't retrieve your soul, you'll lose whatever souls and humanity you're actively carrying. The earliest parts of the game are among the most challenging, for sure, because you're still learning how to play. When in doubt, play super cautiously.

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From the educational stuff (red parts in the game), I was told about locking on a target but I couldn't find a button for it on the joystick, any tip? Same with the jump attack.

To lock on, push the right analog stick in (it's also a button). To jump, hold B to run, then release it and tap B again to jump. It takes some getting used to, for sure, but there are only a handful occasions where you'll actually need to jump... A jump attack though, is just forward+R2 (right trigger for 360 controller) for most weapons.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 03, 2013, 04:09:20 AM
 After a four month hiatus, I’m back playing Dark Souls and, well, holy crap.
Getting back into the game is easy, but I was surprised just how easy things felt. For example, I killed Sif on my first try. 

 With only the Four Kings and Seath left, I set out to complete the DLC. So I got into the sanctuary, where I was reminded how hard this game could be. I killed the Guardian—after five deaths—then left for the Royal Woods without any idea as to what I should expect, which smoothly transitioned into three Gardeners and two Stone Guardians fighting me at once. I killed one Gardener, while evading a dozen hammer swipes, and then ran far enough ahead of the Stone Guardians so I could create distance to kill the other two Gardeners. While the Guardians approached, I chopped up the two remaining Gardeners when suddenly I was stabbed in the back by another Gardener. At this point, I was on the ridge, next to the bridge leading to the Sanctuary, trying to kill-evade-heal when suddenly I get an invasion notification. At this point, I’m sure of my (character’s) imminent demise. I ran behind the Guardians to isolate the one remaining Gardener, killing it, then I bring down the two Guardians. With the area clear, I stayed on the ridge, it felt safe, but mostly because I figured that I could retreat to the lower level if things started getting tough or use the bridge to create a tight area for fighting, which I had hoped it would limit the invader’s mobility.

 By this point I had been invaded for about 5 minutes, which was odd considering that I had yet to see the invader. Still on the ridge, in the open, close to the tree line, I see what looks like a cursed player statue. I start walking towards it when suddenly it turned into the invader. The fight goes pretty well for the Invader, but badly for me: I got back stabbed twice. Low on health, I ended up successfully rolling off the ridge onto the area blow. I managed to heal but that was nullified immediately as the invader nearly killed me with a plunging attack, after which I landed two heavy swings. Nearly dead, I dodged more of his attacks, including holy missile, and landed a few more heavy hits, when I hear the vanquishing sound. With this victory—acquiring 7,380 souls and one humanity—I trot back to the bonfire next to Elizabeth, repair my equipment, and then shut off my 360.   

 I love this game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 03, 2013, 04:18:35 AM
I love this game.
You haven't even gotten to the best part of the DLC yet.  :beast:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 03, 2013, 04:23:02 AM
You haven't even gotten to the best part of the DLC yet.  :beast:

I know! I'm savoring it for as long as I can.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on December 04, 2013, 06:04:39 PM
For the record, I believe that the rest of the DLC is harder than the main game, so if you don't want to be too over powered later, you might do the 4 kings first before completing it. Just one man's opinion
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 04, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
For the record, I believe that the rest of the DLC is harder than the main game, so if you don't want to be too over powered later, you might do the 4 kings first before completing it. Just one man's opinion
I didn't think the DLC areas were that difficult, but it does contain two of the game's toughest bosses.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on December 05, 2013, 12:06:02 AM
I wouldn't say they are that difficult either, but that by comparison, to me it seems that the avg enemy in the new londo ruins is noticeably weaker than the avg enemy in the Artorias DLC
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on December 26, 2013, 09:46:10 AM
The time has come ,I have been playing it a lot ,exploring a lot and staying away from guides and such and finally I am at Gwyn. Tried to take him on  a few times but failed ,at most I managed to get around 50% of his health. I was wondering if I should should choose equipment with higher fire def. Gwyn is quite restless and I noticed he manages to leave some fire dmg. atm I wearing Havels Helm ,Black Knights chestpiece,gloves and Havels Leg piece. All of them are around +4 ,I am using Black Knights Halbred + 5 and Tower Shield +5,ring of steel protection and Havels ring. I also have flame stoneplate ring,and other which boost resistance.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Obscure on December 26, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
The time has come ,I have been playing it a lot ,exploring a lot and staying away from guides and such and finally I am at Gwyn. Tried to take him on  a few times but failed ,at most I managed to get around 50% of his health. I was wondering if I should should choose equipment with higher fire def. Gwyn is quite restless and I noticed he manages to leave some fire dmg. atm I wearing Havels Helm ,Black Knights chestpiece,gloves and Havels Leg piece. All of them are around +4 ,I am using Black Knights Halbred + 5 and Tower Shield +5,ring of steel protection and Havels ring. I also have flame stoneplate ring,and other which boost resistance.

I tried to parry as many of his attacks and used the hornets ring for extra critical damage. It's a quite difficult method and it took many deaths to pull it off.
(Tips from a Dark Souls noob)  :daiba:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aazealh on December 26, 2013, 10:54:30 AM
The time has come ,I have been playing it a lot ,exploring a lot and staying away from guides and such and finally I am at Gwyn. Tried to take him on  a few times but failed ,at most I managed to get around 50% of his health. I was wondering if I should should choose equipment with higher fire def. Gwyn is quite restless and I noticed he manages to leave some fire dmg. atm I wearing Havels Helm ,Black Knights chestpiece,gloves and Havels Leg piece. All of them are around +4 ,I am using Black Knights Halbred + 5 and Tower Shield +5,ring of steel protection and Havels ring. I also have flame stoneplate ring,and other which boost resistance.

There is a key mechanic in Dark Souls against humanoid enemies that is not necessary to beat the game but that makes it much easier and to which Gwyn is quite vulnerable. I'm leaving it at that in case you want to find it out by yourself, but if you still draw a blank: ripostes.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Death May Die on December 26, 2013, 11:46:06 PM
I have a few DS questions that have bothering me for a while if anyone would be kind enough to enlighten me.

1) The Dragon Breath, after using the Dragon Stone. Is its fire breath power increased due to how much Humanity you have active or is its power increased by how many dragon scales you offer up? Is it the same way with the Dragon Torso?

2) The Eye of Death, how does it exactly affect other players worlds? Stronger enemies? Is there a huge difference in the enemies difficulty?

3) You can stack magic and miracles allowing more uses but not rings effecting your stats. However, I stack the Serpent ring and the treasure chest helmet, both of which increase item drop. I wonder if the stats have stacked in doing such.

4) Whats typically is the best defensive item against the Black Mages, as I don't have the DLC, thus I'm not sure if I can equip anything to really put a great defense against these guys. If my magic defense is all I got in terms of defense I must say the Black Mages powers are hugely over powered.     

5) Apparently, you can't learn sorcery unless your a sorcery class, is this correct? I been playing one character for the past 112 hours and haven't experimented a lot with abilities and such of particular classes.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Lukis on December 27, 2013, 08:48:33 AM
There is a key mechanic in Dark Souls against humanoid enemies that is not necessary to beat the game but that makes it much easier and to which Gwyn is quite vulnerable. I'm leaving it at that in case you want to find it out by yourself, but if you still draw a blank: ripostes.
I am more of butt stabbing so I usually didn't riposte much ,but actually tried for few times and managed to pull off killing him ,so thanks. Now I guess ,I have to play some ng+ , buy dlc and then wait for March  :slan:
@DMD
2) It summonned some mobs from that Covenant to that world I think.
5) You can use it. In Firelink shrine there was a guy who offered some sorcery spells for you to buy and a staff or smt for you to cast them ,use also depends on how high your wisdom is. Same goes for pyromancy ,buy glove from dude in Firelink shrine and you will be able to use pyromancy.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Sankari on December 27, 2013, 02:12:53 PM
I am more of butt stabbing so I usually didn't riposte much ,but actually tried for few times and managed to pull off killing him ,so thanks. Now I guess ,I have to play some ng+ , buy dlc and then wait for March  :slan:
@DMD
2) It summonned some mobs from that Covenant to that world I think.
5) You can use it. In Firelink shrine there was a guy who offered some sorcery spells for you to buy and a staff or smt for you to cast them ,use also depends on how high your wisdom is. Same goes for pyromancy ,buy glove from dude in Firelink shrine and you will be able to use pyromancy.

I've been trying to get the tail of Black Dragon Kalameet ( from the DLC)
Died 12 times and still couldnt cut his tail. I dont want to kill him before I get it.

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 27, 2013, 04:08:02 PM
I've been trying to get the tail of Black Dragon Kalameet ( from the DLC)
Died 12 times and still couldnt cut his tail. I dont want to kill him before I get it.
Getting his tail is harder than killing him. It also is not worth it at all.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on December 30, 2013, 10:10:02 PM
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I've been trying to get the tail of Black Dragon Kalameet ( from the DLC)
Died 12 times and still couldnt cut his tail. I dont want to kill him before I get it.

I found the most reliable way to do this solo is with my int builds. Manually aiming soul spears and crystal soul spears at his tail always works for me. Much better than waiting for him to put it in reach of a physical attack.

Otherwise it should also be pretty easy if you can summon someone to help with the tail.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Sankari on December 31, 2013, 03:19:30 AM
I found the most reliable way to do this solo is with my int builds. Manually aiming soul spears and crystal soul spears at his tail always works for me. Much better than waiting for him to put it in reach of a physical attack.

Otherwise it should also be pretty easy if you can summon someone to help with the tail.

Got tired of waiting for his tail. Killed him. Now I'm going to improve some weapons and then move on to NG+
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on December 31, 2013, 02:33:49 PM
Sorry, didn't see these questions until today:

1) The Dragon Breath, after using the Dragon Stone. Is its fire breath power increased due to how much Humanity you have active or is its power increased by how many dragon scales you offer up? Is it the same way with the Dragon Torso?
The only way to increase its power is by offering dragon scales through the covenant.

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2) The Eye of Death, how does it exactly affect other players worlds? Stronger enemies? Is there a huge difference in the enemies difficulty?
It's for the gravelord servant covenant. Using the Eye of Death like a trap, you can send black phantoms into nearby players' worlds and generally be a complete dick. Here's a detailed tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-TzeyuF1_c

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3) You can stack magic and miracles allowing more uses but not rings effecting your stats. However, I stack the Serpent ring and the treasure chest helmet, both of which increase item drop. I wonder if the stats have stacked in doing such.
As far as I know, yes they do stack. But there are so few examples of them, and much more essential rings, that I can't imagine it being used very often. I think having Havel's ring (if you are heavily armored) and/or the Ring of Favor pretty much trump all other rings. Cloranthy Ring is also very good for strength players (increased stamina).

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4) Whats typically is the best defensive item against the Black Mages, as I don't have the DLC, thus I'm not sure if I can equip anything to really put a great defense against these guys. If my magic defense is all I got in terms of defense I must say the Black Mages powers are hugely over powered.     
Not sure who you mean... Pyromancers? There aren't any black mages in the game. Well either way, all equipment has ratings for each kind of damage. Having trouble with a magic user? Equip a shield strong against it; same for fire, lightning etc.

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5) Apparently, you can't learn sorcery unless your a sorcery class, is this correct? I been playing one character for the past 112 hours and haven't experimented a lot with abilities and such of particular classes.
Incorrect. Anyone can learn sorcery. You just have to raise your Intelligence stat to the level where you can buy spells and use them effectively. I think the early cutoff is 11 INT for the first sorcery teacher (Griggs, who you rescue in Undead Burg). And it's something like 18 for Big Hat Logan (he's snobby).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on January 19, 2014, 03:44:17 AM
The English edition of the Dark Souls: Design Works just shipped yesterday. Basically, it's an artbook of the game's designs with a long series of interviews with the director and designers about the game's development. Thankfully, mine already arrived.  :ubik:

In one of the interviews, Berserk is specifically referenced when one of the designers said the series' armor designs were what made him start paying attention to armor in fantasy series. Here's the excerpt:

(http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls_berserk1.jpg)

As a comparison, here's a picture of the Catarina armor design sketch: http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/1520/2443067-catarina-armor.jpg

None of this is any surprise to fans of both Berserk and Dark Souls. There are a dozen or so other similarities. But it's nice for Berserk to get some _official_ influential recognition in the interviews.

The book itself is very cool, and a must have for anyone in love with the design of the world and/or armors in Dark Souls. The interviews at the end sometimes get a little tangential, but include some really enlightening things about some of the characters and origins of the ideas in the game. Neither the art nor the interviews however are quite as extensive as I had hoped, but just to get a glimpse of the ideas and personalities behind the game—worth every penny.

It's $25 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Souls-Design-From-Software/dp/1926778898
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: krzykoopa on January 19, 2014, 08:18:56 AM
The English edition of the Dark Souls: Design Works just shipped yesterday. Basically, it's an artbook of the game's designs with a long series of interviews with the director and designers about the game's development. Thankfully, mine already arrived.  :ubik:

In one of the interviews, Berserk is specifically referenced when one of the designers said the series' armor designs were what made him start paying attention to armor in fantasy series. Here's the excerpt:

(http://skullknight.net/images/darksouls_berserk1.jpg)

As a comparison, here's a picture of the Catarina armor design sketch: http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/1520/2443067-catarina-armor.jpg

None of this is any surprise to fans of both Berserk and Dark Souls. There are a dozen or so other similarities. But it's nice for Berserk to get some _official_ influential recognition in the interviews.

The book itself is very cool, and a must have for anyone in love with the design of the world and/or armors in Dark Souls. The interviews at the end sometimes get a little tangential, but include some really enlightening things about some of the characters and origins of the ideas in the game. Neither the art nor the interviews however are quite as extensive as I had hoped, but just to get a glimpse of the ideas and personalities behind the game—worth every penny.

It's $25 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Souls-Design-From-Software/dp/1926778898

Thats pretty cool, When I first seen the onion knight I thought the same thing that looks like… naa it can't. Ha
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on February 19, 2014, 02:48:59 AM
Been doing my…uh…farewell play through. Gearing up to start NG+. After I get done all that I want to get done I think I'll finally uninstall the game and shelve the disc. If DkSII is anything like what it's shaping up to be then I doubt I'll be coming back to DkS (but you never know, been playing this game on and off for the last 2 years. Certainly gotten more milage than any other game I've bought.)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Griffith on February 23, 2014, 06:01:47 AM
Everyone's favorite reviewer here takes on Dark Souls! :troll:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/8802-Dark-Souls

Anyway, the rake keeping me from finishing the game recently has been that it randomly stopped booting for some reason, and I didn't feel like troubleshooting/reinstalling/troubleshooting, and who knows how Windows Live shutting down will complicate matters (maybe not at all, but I don't care to find out). Anyway, I might just wait to get a cheap ps3 and marathon the entire Souls series on my big screen (or if PS4 streaming can deliver I might be able to waste money on it after my wedding).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on February 25, 2014, 10:25:39 AM
Everyone's favorite reviewer here takes on Dark Souls! :troll:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/8802-Dark-Souls

Can't wait to hear General Potshot's timely, in-depth take!


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Anyway, the rake keeping me from finishing the game recently has been that it randomly stopped booting for some reason, and I didn't feel like troubleshooting/reinstalling/troubleshooting, and who knows how Windows Live shutting down will complicate matters (maybe not at all, but I don't care to find out). Anyway, I might just wait to get a cheap ps3 and marathon the entire Souls series on my big screen (or if PS4 streaming can deliver I might be able to waste money on it after my wedding).

It's your call, but that sounds way more tedious than troubleshooting the PC error, which likely boils down to changing one or two settings in DSfix. There are actually two settings that have notes saying they should be toggled if you experience a failed boot. One of them is skipping the logos at launch, but I can't recall the other one.

As for GFWL, the games saves are the only real thing that would be affected by its closure, and there is already a way to backup your save independent of GFWL through DSfix. So I'm not worried.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Sankari on February 25, 2014, 05:56:41 PM
I'm still gathering all the good weapons before moving on to NG+
Sad thing is , the multiplayer will probly die when DS II is launched, but o well ;)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on February 26, 2014, 03:19:25 AM
Last night I finished getting everything there is to get (on one file). I'm feeling pretty satisfied.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on May 23, 2014, 09:16:35 PM
Dark Souls is on sale for $6 on Steam. I will buy a copy for any member who doesn't have it already, and is committed to playing it.

Just post with your steam name and I will gift it to you today.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Griffith on May 23, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
Dark Souls is on sale for $6 on Steam. I will buy a copy for any member who doesn't have it already, and is committed to playing it.

Just post with your steam name and I will gift it to you today.

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/waltersouls.jpg)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Hitoshura on May 23, 2014, 11:51:48 PM
Dark Souls is on sale for $6 on Steam. I will buy a copy for any member who doesn't have it already, and is committed to playing it.

Just post with your steam name and I will gift it to you today.
RSA92689 (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198026817654) is my steam name. I've been meaning to get this ever since I've beaten Demon's Souls years ago  (http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/104-Demons-Souls/RSA92689).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gummyskull on May 23, 2014, 11:59:02 PM
My brother owns this game on the ps3 and I've been really wanting to play it after reading the praise here. I've played plenty of fantasy role playing games before (Star Trail, Skyrim, Baldur's Gate, Diablo to name a few) so I'm not inexperienced when it comes to them. Dark Souls seems different in comparison though, which is really appealing.
Is there anything I should know before starting? Or should I go in blind?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on May 24, 2014, 02:00:16 AM
Blind. Definitely. You'll miss some stuff but its worth the total feeling of dread you'll have around each corner. Especially if you plan to play through it multiple times, I'd avoid as much info/spoilers as possible. You'll feel that much more accomplished when you clear and area or beat a boss.

One thing to keep in mind if you're feeling daring: Most, if not all, bosses with tails can have their tail cut off, which, in some instances makes the boss easier, but will also yield a special weapon drop.

Also, read as many item descriptions as possible. It'll enrich your experience 10 fold.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on May 24, 2014, 02:34:00 AM
RSA92689 (http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198026817654) is my steam name. I've been meaning to get this ever since I've beaten Demon's Souls years ago  (http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/104-Demons-Souls/RSA92689).

Cool. I sent you an invite (can't gift without being a friend).

I've played plenty of fantasy role playing games before (Star Trail, Skyrim, Baldur's Gate, Diablo to name a few) so I'm not inexperienced when it comes to them. Dark Souls seems different in comparison though, which is really appealing.

Yeah, quite different from those. Namely, it's more of an action game.

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Is there anything I should know before starting? Or should I go in blind?

Be prepared for a long learning curve, where you will become frustrated at your deaths. But every death is a learning experience. Even if you die before retrieving any lost souls from your corpse, you'll get more adept at the game the longer you play it. And that mastery is really what kept me glued to the game, independent of its amazing world design.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Hitoshura on May 24, 2014, 05:28:13 AM
Cool. I sent you an invite (can't gift without being a friend).
I accepted the friend invite just now.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Doc on May 24, 2014, 10:21:35 AM
Be prepared for a long learning curve, where you will become frustrated at your deaths. But every death is a learning experience. Even if you die before retrieving any lost souls from your corpse, you'll get more adept at the game the longer you play it. And that mastery is really what kept me glued to the game, independent of its amazing world design.

I think that's the crux of it. Modern gaming has created almost a stigma towards 'dying', mainly because most mainstream developers are content to handhold the player through everything. Dark Souls is lesson in trial and error. Nine times out of ten, if you die it's because you weren't mindful of your surroundings or mistimed an attack/block/roll. You've just got to suck it up and come back wiser and stronger.

However, this was something I had to learn through Demon's Souls before I could go back and give Dark Souls another shot.

Also, far be it for me to tell you how to play but I would recommend at least having some form of magic, whether it's sorcery or pyromancy. It's definitely a crutch for the early part of the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Hitoshura on May 24, 2014, 10:23:24 PM
Thanks for the game, Walter!  You have a heart of gold. Don't let them take it from you (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wxlx8Y3gmk&t=3m59s)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gummyskull on May 28, 2014, 01:44:43 AM
Thanks for the advice Walter, Doc, and Delta Phi!  Now I am even more excited to start playing.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on June 01, 2014, 02:48:23 AM
If anyone one has XBox Live Gold and wants to play this game but has their reservations, Dark Souls is free to purchase this month (June). It's definitely more than worth $0.00
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: NightCrawler on June 01, 2014, 08:59:20 PM
Went blind, haven't played a single player game since the Mass Effect series. Oddly, it grabbed my attention, but quickly realized this game just tortures you and sucks you in like a bad case of Stockholm Syndrome. I feel like an abused housewife in a perpetual war of attrition with my unforgivingly violent husband: "I can fix you Dark Souls, i'm sure it'll be a worthy experience in the end".
Anyway, after i did all of Darkroot Garden/Basin i realized that it all of that hard work was basically pointless, wow... So on i went through the Valley of the Drakes into Blighttown... humm... nope, this will take me forever, better choose something else. Tried New Londo Ruins, died without finding a bonfire, gave up. What else is left? Oh, right, the Catacombs. Okay, lets do that. A lot of sprinting and surprisingly got to a bonfire. Stuck to it fiercely throughout Tomb of the Giants and now i've reached a golden fog and can't pass through it, geez... really?! Whatever i need to do to get it open, please tell me i can magically teleport back to this location and don't have to go through that catacombs/tomb of the giants nightmare again...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 01, 2014, 09:17:38 PM
Glad to hear you've picked up the game.

It's definitely not kind to newcomers. At first blush it does seem like the game is directionless. But if you talk to NPCs, often they will give you lots of info on where to go, what to do. The very first one you meet tells you where to go for the first half of the game

Youve done Undead Burg, right? Didn't see it mentioned, and the route you took could have avoided it. You had the right idea with Blighttown though... Should go back there. You're looking for bells. Gargoyles. Then blight town. Then the gated fortress.

And yeah you will eventually be able to port back to places you've explored. Also the ring you got from the forest will help you later in the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: NightCrawler on June 01, 2014, 10:14:57 PM
Yes, i did all of Burg, Parish, rang the first bell (by summoning two NPCs, completely by chance, and it was such a relief, cause i was getting my ass kicked ad nauseam). Then after i met the first smith i went on to the Darkroot Gardens/Basin, thinking that would be the way to go, but it seems like its only a side area. It took me forever to get good enough to beat the Wolf (also the Hydra was my first true holy shit moment in the game).
When i went back to other areas, like the Depths and New Londo Ruins, it felt a bit like i should've went through those first and the Gardens/Basin later, cause the enemies seemed harder in the Gardens. But there's no way to tell with this game.
I didn't want to use guides or anything similar, but this golden fog kinda pissed me off, just the thought of having to leave Tomb of Giants just to go back through it again is making me not wanting to play. At this point it's by far the worst area of the game, it's not confusing like Blighttown seemed to be, but way more soul crushing.
This teleporting thing, can i find it at this stage i'm at, or is it only further in the game? Can i leave Tomb of Giants knowing i can just teleport back to finally go through the golden fog, or it doesn't work like that at all? (i must confess i'm not much of an adept of the Metroidvania style) Did anyone actually play through all of Dark Souls without using the internet?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 01, 2014, 11:06:51 PM
It took me forever to get good enough to beat the Wolf

I had trouble with the wolf (Sif), because its hits eat your stamina so heavily. But learning to dodge and get beneath it to attack really makes that fight a breeze.

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(also the Hydra was my first true holy shit moment in the game).

Same here. I still think that battle is super impressive-looking. And it's not even really a boss.

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When i went back to other areas, like the Depths and New Londo Ruins, it felt a bit like i should've went through those first and the Gardens/Basin later, cause the enemies seemed harder in the Gardens. But there's no way to tell with this game.

Yep. The general rule of thumb for zone progression is that if enemies are too tough, you're probably in the wrong area. Which is why I'm AMAZED that you already made it through the Tomb of Giants, the toughest zone in the game, and it's something I usually put off until near the end.

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This teleporting thing, can i find it at this stage i'm at, or is it only further in the game? Can i leave Tomb of Giants knowing i can just teleport back to finally go through the golden fog, or it doesn't work like that at all? (i must confess i'm not much of an adept of the Metroidvania style)

You'll get the ability to teleport between bonfires at around the halfway point in the game. At that same time, the golden fog will be lifted, and you can port back to the closest bonfire.

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Did anyone actually play through all of Dark Souls without using the internet?

Aazealh said he did. Other than him, maybe 5-6 people? I mostly peeked at a zone guide when I got lost, and don't feel bad about that. Learning the zone progression in the game isn't a spoiler for me. Lore stuff would be.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 02, 2014, 03:52:52 AM
I think I made it to Blight town before I started peeking at guides. I'm kinda proud of that. Also, I didn't have online capabilities for most of the game so I took on everything by myself. Never summoned. ALSO, for some dumb reason I was saving my humanities and so I did 80% of the game undead with only 5 estus flasks. I didn't really understand kindling bonfires.

I made the game so much harder on myself.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: NightCrawler on June 02, 2014, 09:58:57 AM
I had trouble with the wolf (Sif), because its hits eat your stamina so heavily. But learning to dodge and get beneath it to attack really makes that fight a breeze.

Darkroot was my rite of passage. I spent ~70% of my gameplay there, farming at that bonfire near the gate where the 4 human characters are. I thought if i got skilled enough to beat those guys constantly, i could take pretty much everything else i'd seen in the game so far, and since i was close to the blacksmith, i could keep upgrading my gear.

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Same here. I still think that battle is super impressive-looking. And it's not even really a boss.

At first i didn't even want to get near it, thinking i'd be obliterated, not knowing that the long range attacks were worse than the close ones.

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Yep. The general rule of thumb for zone progression is that if enemies are too tough, you're probably in the wrong area. Which is why I'm AMAZED that you already made it through the Tomb of Giants, the toughest zone in the game, and it's something I usually put off until near the end.

That's why i don't want to go back. Going through it was a mix of perseverance, luck and lots of sprinting to find bonfires.

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You'll get the ability to teleport between bonfires at around the halfway point in the game. At that same time, the golden fog will be lifted, and you can port back to the closest bonfire.

That's good to know. I guess i'll take on Londo Ruins now, and Blighttown afterwards.

I think I made it to Blight town before I started peeking at guides. I'm kinda proud of that. Also, I didn't have online capabilities for most of the game so I took on everything by myself. Never summoned. ALSO, for some dumb reason I was saving my humanities and so I did 80% of the game undead with only 5 estus flasks. I didn't really understand kindling bonfires.

Me too, offline, mostly undead, i only use humanities before a big fight, after finding out by chance that you could summon NPCs to fight bosses.
You can have more than 5 estus flasks?  :ganishka:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on June 02, 2014, 10:49:13 PM
When you say you are playing offline, you mean you have literally no messages or blood stains on the ground left by other players?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: NightCrawler on June 03, 2014, 10:42:17 AM
When you say you are planning offline, you mean you have literally no messages or blood stains on the ground left by other players?

Yep.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 03, 2014, 12:51:11 PM
Yep.

I don't think I'd have enjoyed the game as much without the few funny messages I found. They also led me in the direction of hidden doors (I'd NEVER have found the pathway to Ash Lake. Who the fuck would?).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on June 03, 2014, 04:26:30 PM
Yep.

Aww man, is that by choice? I can't imagine playing the game like that. The whole world felt so lived in, and just so recently empty, with so many signs of life left by other players. I don't think the NPC's alone could replicate that experience.

There are a lot of secret doors in this game that you are going to miss, I can tell you that much. (One such door is the only way to two of the in game areas like Walter mentioned, Ash Lake and The Great Hollow).

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Salibu on June 04, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
This game is a free download right now on the 360 for XBOX Gold members.

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 19, 2014, 01:34:45 AM
So before I buy Dark Souls 2 I want to play the DLC from Dark Souls which I never did since I let my xbox live membership run out and I've been too cheap to renew it just for this but the time has come. Is there anything I should know before I do this? I have a save file on a first playthrough right after the the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith (and after killing the other bosses like Seath and Nito). Can I still do the DLC from here? Basically at the end of the game.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 19, 2014, 01:43:02 AM
Is there anything I should know before I do this?

Go to where you found Princess Dusk.

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I have a save file on a first playthrough right after the the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith (and after killing the other bosses like Seath and Nito). Can I still do the DLC from here? Basically at the end of the game.

Yep. But if you didn't have the DLC downloaded before you played through the Duke's Archive, go back through that area. There's a new unique drop from the first golem you encounter there that leads in to the DLC. After that, see above.

Also, if your character is at the very end of the game, you might find this area pretty easy. I think it's best suited right after you get the Lordvessel.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 20, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
I have another question. I went to find the Lady Dusk by ash lake where I remember her summon sign being only to find it gone. I'm not sure where she went or why I can't find her summon sign. If I buy and download the DLC can i still go back there and do it?

Sorry I'm getting neurotic about this. I just don't want to pay to renew my xbox gold membership just to buy the DLC only to find out that because of classic Dark Souls 'go to far and you've missed it forever' that I need to start a whole new game just to play it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 20, 2014, 06:00:41 PM
I have another question. I went to find the Lady Dusk by ash lake where I remember her summon sign being only to find it gone. I'm not sure where she went or why I can't find her summon sign.

First, you have to be human to use summon signs. But her summon sign isn't what you're looking for anyway. That's not where you first found her. Remember, she was within that golden golem deeper in the cave near the lake with the Hydra. That's where you need to go, presuming you've already gotten the pendant from the first golem in the Duke's Archives.

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Sorry I'm getting neurotic about this. I just don't want to pay to renew my xbox gold membership just to buy the DLC only to find out that because of classic Dark Souls 'go to far and you've missed it forever' that I need to start a whole new game just to play it.
You can't go too far (well, unless you beat the final boss and force your game back to New Game+). As long as you have the Lordvessel, you can begin the quest to get to the DLC area.

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 20, 2014, 06:29:22 PM
Ah, I see. Thank you.

Speaking of that, when I initially saved her from inside that Golem, it was an unnexpected surprise. I had no idea anything like that would happen. She's a pretty interesting character with some good dialog. From what I'm gathering, the DLC involves more of her as well as some Oolacile stuff? I don't want to spoil it for myself since I love the lore but I'm getting pretty hyped up because it seems like this DLC adds a lot.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 20, 2014, 06:39:10 PM
Ah, I see. Thank you.

Speaking of that, when I initially saved her from inside that Golem, it was an unnexpected surprise. I had no idea anything like that would happen. She's a pretty interesting character with some good dialog. From what I'm gathering, the DLC involves more of her as well as some Oolacile stuff? I don't want to spoil it for myself since I love the lore but I'm getting pretty hyped up because it seems like this DLC adds a lot.

Don't get too excited for big answers or anything. There's not much dialogue in the DLC, but it involves some key stuff, and there's a lot of inferences that can be made based on it.

As for its quality, many think of it as one of the best pieces of DLC this generation. I think it's pretty good. Not my favorite area of the game. But it has some of the best boss fights of the game, and that's saying something.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Sankari on June 20, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
I agree with Walter, I think its one of the best DLC , it enriches the lore , and offers a new "universe" within the game, that makes you care more about main characters.  Plus its lots of fun later for PVP , its where I got most of my fights in DS versus other players
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 27, 2014, 07:22:03 PM
Just started but I'm enjoying the DLC  :guts: Love how it opens with a bang! (first boss was awesome).  I had a true "holy shit" moment when I was running across the bridge in the forest and that giant flying dragon thing landed and glared at me  :femto:. I almost forgot how much I enjoy these games. I'm actually glad I waited so long to play the DLC because now once I finish this playthrough I can jump into DS2.

As for its quality, many think of it as one of the best pieces of DLC this generation. I think it's pretty good. Not my favorite area of the game. But it has some of the best boss fights of the game, and that's saying something.

So what would you say is your favorite area of the game? I really liked the Undead Burg/Parish and the Painted World. I also like New Londo Ruins and some of the Catacombs stuff particularly when there is mountains of bones or bodies or insects on the walls and shit like that. It's also hard to not love Darkroot Garden/Basin since it's great to explore. The first time exploring that area and coming across all it's unique enemies is very memorable, especially since a lot of it is optional.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2014, 07:29:51 PM
So what would you say is your favorite area of the game? I really liked the Undead Burg/Parish and the Painted World. I also like New Londo Ruins and some of the Catacombs stuff particularly when there is mountains of bones or bodies or insect on the walls and shit like that.

Well, I didn't mean that I necessarily had a hierarchy. Just that the inverted Darkroot Garden + black ooze doesn't stand out to me next to other areas of the game.

Glad you're enjoying it. The best is yet to come.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 29, 2014, 03:07:20 PM
I'm nearly finished with the DLC. All I have left is the Black Dragon Kalameet and whatever else is in that valley. I really enjoyed the whole thing. I loved the look and setting of map even if the design was pretty straightforward and not all that complicated. Getting through the levels was pretty easy for me since I'm doing this late in the game, however the boss fights were still a challenge. Artorias took me a few tries and was one of my favorite fights in the whole game. He is so aggressive and fast, I felt like I was fighting Guts in Beast Mode  :guts: Super exciting battle. I did NOT like the final boss in the Abyss, Manus I think. He seemed ridiculously overpowered with his attacks. Even at Level 90 with full Iron Golem armor (except for the Child Mask for stamina recovery) I was killed about 20 times before I killed him. I was switching between different heavy shields and powerful weapons but I had another stamina recovery ring so I had my stamina full within 2 seconds. Still, his attacks were vicious. I even had to summon little baby cub Sif for help (he was basically useless). What a tough fight. Now if I can only figure out how to cut the tail off of Kalameet I'll be all set...

Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 29, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Manus also beat me down the first time I played through that section. Also probably died 20 times or so. But once you learn his patterns, he's a pussycat. On subsequent runs, I beat him on the first attempt. Artorias is the real challenge, in my opinion. Even  now, after 5 playthroughs, he's the toughest boss in the game, to me. And that's as it should be.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on June 29, 2014, 11:04:11 PM
Artorias is the only DkS boss that I still don't have the balls to fight solo. Kalameet is a struggle solo, but I got used to him after the countless battles I spent trying to cut off his tail. I always summon for Artorias. Makes it a much more manageable fight, of course.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 30, 2014, 02:50:53 AM
Both were hard Bosses, but Manus was more frustrating where as Artorias was the type of difficult challenge that I enjoy. Even though it took me  10-15 tries to beat him, I knew I could beat him. It was my type of fight. I just had to time it better and remain calm. Ugh, Manus. I knew his patterns perfectly but I still couldn't manage to avoid getting hit by them.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on June 30, 2014, 05:33:11 AM
Best way to get kalameet's is to use sorcery, about 4 - 5 Soul Spears and Crystal Soul Spears will take it off pronto, and you can manually aim them so you don't have to wait FOREVER for him to make his tail vulnerable to melee
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 30, 2014, 01:08:04 PM
Best way to get kalameet's is to use sorcery, about 4 - 5 Soul Spears and Crystal Soul Spears will take it off pronto, and you can manually aim them so you don't have to wait FOREVER for him to make his tail vulnerable to melee

It's always seemed weird to me when people suggest "Oh, just use sorcery," since doing that requires a specific build, and generally not one that's picked by newcomers. It's not like you can switch off from a melee character to using crystal soul spear (which requires something like 50INT, making it nearly a new game + level spell).

My Kalameet strategy: just like the game's other giant, four-legged boss, get under it and swat at any body part you can reach, then back off and block. Wait for it to swoop in, dodge/roll its thrusting attacks, then get back underneath it. Rinse and repeat.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Oburi on June 30, 2014, 01:39:54 PM
It's always seemed weird to me when people suggest "Oh, just use sorcery," since doing that requires a specific build, and generally not one that's picked by newcomers. It's not like you can switch off from a melee character to using crystal soul spear (which requires something like 50INT, making it nearly a new game + level spell).

Yea, there's no chance I'm using Soul Spears since I have 18INT.


My Kalameet strategy: just like the game's other giant, four-legged boss, get under it and swat at any body part you can reach, then back off and block. Then wait for it to swoop in, dodge/roll its thrusting attacks, then get back underneath it. Rinse and repeat.

I know I can beat him him. Hell, I almost accidentally killed him on my first try by doing just that. But, I really want to get all the items I can get, so I want his tail first.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Walter on June 30, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
I really want to get all the items I can get, so I want his tail first.
Getting his tail is much, much harder than taking him down. I tried doing it a number of times before looking up the stats on the weapon that drops and seeing it wasn't worth it for my build, gave up.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Sankari on June 30, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
Getting his tail is much, much harder than taking him down. I tried doing it a number of times before looking up the stats on the weapon that drops and seeing it wasn't worth it for my build, gave up.

I gave up as well, its really hard to score hits on his tail. I was trying with halberds, black knight greatsword, doing vertical swoops, but didn't manage to get his tail once , I tried maybe 20 - 30 times before I gave up and killed the bastard. Still, interesting boss
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Delta Phi on June 30, 2014, 03:22:03 PM
If you can summon it makes it much easier. I got lucky and found someone to summon and we managed to cut if off, shortly there after the phantom got wrecked and I had to solo something like 70% of his health. That was also the first time I beat him. He has a couple rare attacks that I never managed to learn how to bait, but they leave his tail open for attack.

If you have to solo, it's a painstaking process and you'll be at it for a long time, but you'll get it just as long as you play it safe.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jaze1618 on July 03, 2014, 12:50:27 AM
I believe you can bait a tail  slap attack from him by standing directly behind him after he dashes at you. That will make his tail vulnerable to melee for 4 to 5 seconds. He almost never does that attack, which it's the real problem. But it should be pretty deterministic if you stand directly behind him after his dash attack.

Search on YouTube and I bet you will find a video that shows it well.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ThePiedPiper on September 23, 2017, 06:47:51 PM
resurrecting this thread!
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This year has seen my first real playthrough of the game. I'm currently on NG+, farming Souvenirs of Reprisal, as I'm trying to get all weapons, miracles, sorceries. I fear having to face Seethe again, I HATE getting cursed. I'm hoping that tanking all of his curses is still an option on NG+, because focusing on curse resist last 'run' was the only strategy that was successful for me.

I regrettably had to kill babe Priscilla for a second time because I didn't get her tail in the previous run  :sad: I am really looking forward to tackling the DLC again, I played through the entire thing except for the last boss. I was wanting to do the final DLC boss after the boss in the main game but because of its ending it went right into NG+ and I couldn't.

I can't shake how epic this entire game is, and how iconic all of the characters, enemies, and the setting is. I get the impression there won't be another game like this in the series (I've only played Demon's Souls and Dark Souls; the former I like even more than this one). I like this game so much that I almost feel like playing a third run, even after getting the platinum trophy.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: rockvoanjd on September 23, 2017, 08:37:25 PM
Give Bloodborne a try. I find myself always playing it over and over. FromSoftware games are just Fucking awesome
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Griffith on September 23, 2017, 08:48:27 PM
I'd also recommend Dark Souls III if you get tired of replaying NG+; unlike DS2 it's a true sequel and very much a love letter to the original Dark Souls, and I'm told Demon's Souls as well.

As for DS1 I had issues with NG+ because I used a fully upgraded Divine Claymore in my initial run and it was just too weak against most NG+ bosses for my taste. But then upgrading weapons to +10 can be a pain in the ass so I didn't want to be screwing around experimenting to find what I liked, so I just tried the Black Knight weapons and they're ridiculously powerful and relatively easy to upgrade to their +5 max with twinkling titanite. The axe does crazy damage, but halberd isn't far behind and is much faster with an better moveset. I think I read later it's possibly the best weapon in the game (and technically you can get it from a random drop in the first 10 minutes).

As for Seath, if I recall the Paladon armor should still work... or you can just cheese him to death with arrows. =)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Eluvei on September 23, 2017, 10:23:46 PM
I can't shake how epic this entire game is, and how iconic all of the characters, enemies, and the setting is. I get the impression there won't be another game like this in the series (I've only played Demon's Souls and Dark Souls; the former I like even more than this one). I like this game so much that I almost feel like playing a third run, even after getting the platinum trophy.

I played Demon's Souls years after Dark Souls and was surprised with how much I loved it. Ended up being one of my favorite games of all time. But yeah, try DS2 and DS3 out, they're both inferior to the original, but worth giving a shot if you've got the time. I actually thought DS2 was okay, and played through it a bunch of times, but really didn't like 3.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Griffith on September 24, 2017, 05:03:55 AM
I played Demon's Souls years after Dark Souls and was surprised with how much I loved it. Ended up being one of my favorite games of all time.

*sigh*

But yeah, try DS2 and DS3 out, they're both inferior to the original, but worth giving a shot if you've got the time. I actually thought DS2 was okay, and played through it a bunch of times, but really didn't like 3.

Interesting, DS2 was my first and I have a real love/hate relationship with it to this day; I want to love it and always end up sort of hating it. DS1 was an on again/off again experience until I finally found my groove and then it was really ON, just an all-time classic that lives up to the legend. That enthusiasm carried over to DS3 for me in a big way and I played the hell of it from every angle, numerous NG+'s, all the DLC, even elements I usually rather avoid like the various forms of multiplayer were embraced. Though, as definitive as it tries to be I realize it's ultimately just as derivative. And strangely, I've put the most time into 2 (over 200 hours between the original and SOTFS) even though it's my least favorite, the one I'm least adept at, and I've yet to complete its final DLC or try its more comprehensive and intriguing NG+. I guess that's why it's the one I still fire up every once in a while; unfinished business, and I'm still looking for something I think is there but haven't quite found. I never quite mastered it and never quite figured out if it was worth it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Johnstantine on September 27, 2017, 02:34:57 PM
Bloodborne is the best, though.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Proj2501 on January 13, 2018, 06:49:48 AM
*Blows dust off thread*

Dark Souls Remastered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6zrakuxY_s
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6zrakuxY_s)

"I'm still a believer in the Dark Souls."
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 :ganishka:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on January 13, 2018, 05:54:32 PM
It's a shame they couldn't do something more different and remaster Demon's Souls. I played so much of the first Dark Souls, I don't know if I want to buy this remaster unless they drop some crazy add-on content.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Menosgade on January 17, 2018, 02:16:42 PM
I want to buy this remaster unless they drop some crazy add-on content.

No added content unfortunately, just graphics and multiplayer increased to 6 players, instead of 4.
They could use assets of other DS games, add cut-content, stuff like that. Otherwise I'm not buying it either. At least they won't ruin combat by turning off poise (DS III).
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Griffith on January 18, 2018, 09:47:54 PM
No added content unfortunately, just graphics and multiplayer increased to 6 players, instead of 4.

Whoa, enemies are going to be facerolled like hasn't been seen since the original DSII multiplayer massacres. :ganishka:

They could use assets of other DS games, add cut-content, stuff like that. Otherwise I'm not buying it either.

Yeah, I doubt it, though something would be cool and I think is called for. Otherwise, the only motive for getting this is if you just want to replay it anyway and can grab this "enhanced edition" cheap. Bring it full circle somehow, From Soft (like that Age of Ancients/War with the Everlasting Dragons DLC idea I gave you and you ignored at your own expense =). Or just tie it in with Demon's Souls and let you fight The Old One finally. I don't think "The Old One" is copyright protect-able.

At least they won't ruin combat by turning off poise (DS III).

Whoa, that takes me back, "It's working as intended" (if you bring up the ME3 ending fracas I'll be in total flashback mode). Is this still a thing though? I thought it was determined that it was made contextual and tied to the effectiveness of hyper armor moves? It never bothered me much because I've basically become a lightweight roller unconcerned with poise anyway. I quite enjoyed the combat in DS3 overall, vE and vP alike.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Menosgade on January 19, 2018, 02:29:47 PM
Whoa, enemies are going to be facerolled like hasn't been seen since the original DSII multiplayer massacres. :ganishka:

Heh, I remember guiding people through Oolacile and the Abyss wearing my Paladin armour. I'd boldly fight off invaders (Greatswords and greatshields, because no less is good enough) cast mirales and cast light when in darkness. It was an honourable duty.

Whoa, that takes me back, "It's working as intended" (if you bring up the ME3 ending fracas I'll be in total flashback mode). Is this still a thing though? I thought it was determined that it was made contextual and tied to the effectiveness of hyper armor moves? It never bothered me much because I've basically become a lightweight roller unconcerned with poise anyway. I quite enjoyed the combat in DS3 overall, vE and vP alike.

As far as I know, they didn't change it. "Hyper armour" is a half-assed Poise substitute as I see it, and the Poise stat itself does absolutely nothing (RIP Wolf Ring). Never bought DSIII because didn't get along with this combat, playing in my friend's and watching on Youtube. I couldn't accept it for PVP, especially since I favor heavier builds. Armour itself seems negligible in DSIII. It's sad. And this leads us to a big problem.

Big Dad is impossible without armour and poise...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Griffith on January 19, 2018, 04:32:39 PM
Never bought DSIII because didn't get along with this combat, playing in my friend's and watching on Youtube. I couldn't accept it for PVP, especially since I favor heavier builds. Armour itself seems negligible in DSIII. It's sad. And this leads us to a big problem.

Big Dad is impossible without armour and poise...

Boo! Pick it up for cheap now dude, it's totally worth it and you can't give it a fair shake at a friend's or watching youtube. Armor isn't negligible either, it's just presented and managed in a simpler, more natural way; mix and match your best gear to keep your defenses between 20-30% reduction, DON'T waste time grinding and farming for truly negligible armor upgrades when you're just going to find something better anyway and start the process again. More fun for me anyway, YMMV for heavier builds where taking some hits is part of the plan. I never had success with that in Souls though (I just died slower =), and figured the heavy setters that were good at it would probably be even better without it.

Anyway,  I don't know if I had success with DS3 combat because I liked it or liked it because I had success, but it always felt good and I could effectively fend off even multiple invaders or at least give them a hard time.