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Title: Episode 335
Post by: Heiji on May 19, 2014, 01:40:03 PM
Title: 王権神授 - Divine right of kingship




Episode #335 will be publishing friday in Young Animal#11. #336 will be publishing this summer.

Source : Young Animal #11.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 19, 2014, 02:04:41 PM
Well yeah, we already knew that 335 would be published this week...
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 19, 2014, 02:06:46 PM
Thanks for the early info on 336. Wish we had more specifics than "summer."

Mind if I ask how you get this info so early?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Heiji on May 19, 2014, 02:15:03 PM
Well yeah, we already knew that 335 would be published this week...
I know i post info^^. Here its just info about episode 336.

From Young Animal 11. Friends bought today and send me info. Post preview picture tomorrow.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 19, 2014, 02:20:23 PM
I know i post info^^. Here its just info about episode 336.

From Young Animal 11. Friends bought today and send me info. Post preview picture tomorrow.

Sure, I was just thinking that non-specific info about episode 336's release date was maybe a bit light to start the episode 335 thread, but it doesn't matter. It's nice of you in any case. Would you mind giving us a summary of the episode if your friend has told you a few things? That'd be great.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Tama on May 19, 2014, 05:15:42 PM
I can't believe the new episode is coming out already; time is flying by. I'm so excited!  :ubik: I hope Rickert gets to see whats in the dome, or how his talk plays out with Griffith.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: lon3vvolf on May 19, 2014, 07:09:24 PM
Excited for this as no matter where we got from here it moves the story along. Rickert meeting Griffith or going back to the ship. In either case I'm happy where we are and content on getting information about upcoming chapters.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Heiji on May 20, 2014, 04:24:49 AM
Few pages from episode #335 :



Total page for episode #335 : 19.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Skeleton on May 20, 2014, 04:41:39 AM
We might get to see the Band of the Falcon again sooner rather than later!  :troll:

Seriously though, for me this is another one of those "Miura is a genius" moments where something happens that I didn't expect, but it makes perfect sense when I think about it.  I would've never guessed that is what Femto is doing.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Sammoniac on May 20, 2014, 04:47:37 AM
Wow, thank you so much for this LOicos... this is plain awesome! Just look at what Miura has done with the wings  :isidro: I wonder what the holes in the arches are?
And looks like Griffith is still putting on quite a spectacular show, straight from the coffins this time. It seems that we won't see his conversation with Rickert in this episode though.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Maxwell on May 20, 2014, 05:41:39 AM
Thanks LOicos for the early preview pictures! This episode looks fantastic, i can't wait to get my Young Animal!

It's quite interesting that we see people up there in Falconia, now it's really making me wonder where the not so charming looking apostles reside.  :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Mangetsu on May 20, 2014, 06:38:34 AM
I never expected this to happen  :isidro: Miura is truly an Genius

Thancks for the Pictures Loicos
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Gummyskull on May 20, 2014, 08:16:54 AM
 :isidro: Wow!  Thank you so much Loicos! I can't wait for the rest of the episode.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Tama on May 20, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
Very interesting. It makes sense though, seeing as how we see Griffith do something similar in volume 23 so it's cool to see Miura going back to this but in more detail. Curious to hear what Rickert is thinking about all of this.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on May 20, 2014, 10:28:26 AM
Wonder if Griffith is going to manipulate Rickert with the ghosts of the Falcons?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Devilwoman on May 20, 2014, 10:29:46 AM
Thanks LOicos for the early preview. Falconia's architecture is pretty interesting, if only they could do something like that in the real world. Those holes in the arcs look suspicious. And Griffith is playing the necromancer again(or something like that). I'm interested in seeing Rickert interact with Locus.
Wonder if Griffith is going to manipulate Rickert with the ghosts of the Falcons?
Oh right, I didn't think about that. We could see Pipin and the others again, but I wonder can sacrifices come back in that form?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 20, 2014, 10:51:58 AM
Very interesting. It makes sense though, seeing as how we see Griffith do something similar in volume 23 so it's cool to see Miura going back to this but in more detail. Curious to hear what Rickert is thinking about all of this.

Yeah, back to the old tricks. I wonder what the room itself looks like though. The little of it we see seems... interesting. And of course, now the question is what will happen with Rickert... It'd be interesting to see him ask Griffith about the former Band of the Falcon (and to hear Griffith's response), but as far as bringing them back as ghosts, the situation is different, as the people shown here are freshly deceased. But even then, they aren't just dead, they were branded. I don't think they could come back that way.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 20, 2014, 12:53:45 PM
Thanks, LOicos. Better than a text summary, I guess. :guts:

Neat, freshly raised ghosts from coffins. While on the surface it's merely a revival of what we saw in Volume 23, it actually answers something I had been wondering about -- how the afterlife works in this new world. The shallow layer of the astral world was where spirits reside before passing on. Now that the worlds have merged, it's nice to know it's still the same. Still requires Griffith's special touch to bring them out for loved ones. 

I do wonder though, if there's a reason Miura is reminding us of this power...

Also, Griffith is still wearing his same old armor? Perhaps this truly is prior to a coronation ceremony. He still even has his goddamned sword equipped. What, is he paranoid after that one time he didn't have it strapped to him?

It'd be interesting to see him ask Griffith about the former Band of the Falcon (and to hear Griffith's response)

As you said, I don't see how it'd be possible. But indeed hearing the wording of his reply would be interesting. "They've moved on to where they become one."  :femto:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on May 20, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
Based on my piss-poor knowledge of moonspeak, on page #5, Rickert says: "That's..." and Locus replies 'That is the "other side of death".' Very roughly translated, mind. Sorry it's nothing groundbreaking.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 20, 2014, 01:57:31 PM
Based on my piss-poor knowledge of moonspeak, on page #5, Rickert says: "That's..." and Locus replies 'That is the "other side of death".' Very roughly translated, mind. Sorry it's nothing groundbreaking.

Yes, I also translated it and didn't even bother posting it since it's so apparent.

Also, if you're going to call Japanese "moonspeak," then maybe you shouldn't be translating things.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on May 20, 2014, 02:00:15 PM
Not enough to Rickert, apparently. :troll:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Delta Phi on May 20, 2014, 03:54:41 PM
Wow! That initial shot of Griffith gave me chills. So awesome. I'm curious if his "resurrection" ability will have some greater use than just further solidifying himself to the masses as a great (and powerful) person. :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 20, 2014, 04:16:31 PM
Wow! That initial shot of Griffith gave me chills. So awesome. I'm curious if his "resurrection" ability will have some greater use than just further solidifying himself to the masses as a great (and powerful) person. :griffnotevil:

I know you're using the term loosely, since I also can't think of a great term for it ... but what Griffith is doing is pretty far from "resurrection." He's just tapping into the few recently departed souls still clinging to the world, and giving their families a proper last goodbye.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: RaffoBaffo on May 20, 2014, 04:48:31 PM
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Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 20, 2014, 05:28:34 PM
What the wow?!?!? !!!!! can't put it in words! merci!

Now that my excitation has tone down a bit, I can think clearly! The question I'm asking is this: Mariage? Flashback scene? or is that happening like now!?! Ahhh the wonders! Princess Charlotte looks good in that dress! great art as always.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: IcePuck on May 20, 2014, 05:52:24 PM
Niiiice. Is this a wedding?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 20, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
The question I'm asking is this: Mariage? Flashback scene? or is that happening like now!?!
Niiiice. Is this a wedding?

It's a mass funeral. Notice her dress is black.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 20, 2014, 06:56:30 PM
aaaah crap! got excited too quick, you're so right haha. Dang.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Skeleton on May 20, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
I'm really digging that altar, especially the griffins. I wonder if those creatures chasing the falcon is a nod to anything in particular such as the spiritual magnetism that draws apostles (and other evil entities) to Femto. Either way it's a beautiful design Miura came up with.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Griffith on May 20, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
Pretty cool, though like Walter I'm a bit disappointed Griffith still looks like he just walked off the battlefield. I makes sense though that the scene in volume 23 wasn't just a cool trick but something that would recur on a grander scale. His "throne" was a tree stump the last time. =)

I'm also unreasonably excited, given the import of everything else, that Locus is merely involved.

It'd be interesting to see him ask Griffith about the former Band of the Falcon (and to hear Griffith's response), but as far as bringing them back as ghosts, the situation is different, as the people shown here are freshly deceased. But even then, they aren't just dead, they were branded. I don't think they could come back that way.
As you said, I don't see how it'd be possible. But indeed hearing the wording of his reply would be interesting. "They've moved on to where they become one."  :femto:

Rickert: "Can you call the Falcons?"

Griffith: "Hmmmm, let's see..."

*PIERCING SCREAMS OF ETERNAL ANGUISH ECHO FROM THE BEYOND*

"Uhhh... I think they're becoming one!" :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 21, 2014, 12:03:27 AM
Pretty cool, though like Walter I'm a bit disappointed Griffith still looks like he just walked off the battlefield.

It does make sense though, if the coronation hasn't occurred yet. Also, Griffith was always front lines leader. Perhaps he'll take that mentality forward, and even along with his godlike status, choose to be identified as a warrior.

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I'm also unreasonably excited, given the import of everything else, that Locus is merely involved.

Locus meeting Rickert also gave me that reaction.

Images

This is going to be spectacular. Thanks for sharing.

Sonia's hat reminds me of the one Miura drew in his tribute to Chika Umino.

The revised falcon of light motif is giving me the creeps. As if it's more skeletal.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 21, 2014, 05:40:57 AM
Pretty cool, though like Walter I'm a bit disappointed Griffith still looks like he just walked off the battlefield.

Like I told him by chat: Femto only has one Griffith costume. The lounging one was unavailable at the store. :iva:
More seriously, maybe he's just returned from the field, or it's to honor the soldiers.

Sonia's hat reminds me of the one Miura drew in his tribute to Chika Umino.

Yeah it's a neat touch.

The revised falcon of light motif is giving me the creeps. As if it's more skeletal.

I think it's because it's more angular, that makes it feel a bit menacing.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on May 21, 2014, 11:17:56 AM
The more we see of Neo-Griffith, the more I compare him to the 'Warrior-Prophet' aka Anasūrimbor Kellhus from R. Scott Bakker's Second Apocalypse books. I really need to return to that series one of these days.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 21, 2014, 01:18:59 PM
I think it's because it's more angular, that makes it feel a bit menacing.

Why do you think the design was changed? I think it would make for an interesting discussion. See you on the podcast soon  :daiba:

The more we see of Neo-Griffith, the more I compare him to the 'Warrior-Prophet' aka Anasūrimbor Kellhus from R. Scott Bakker's Second Apocalypse books. I really need to return to that series one of these days.

Never heard of it. But I guess you're just ruminating aloud, and not saying Griffith was based on the guy, right?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Irvine on May 21, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
The art is amazing as always. I hope some day I will also be able to draw such amazing architecture.  :ubik:

It's like a fairy tale isn't it? The powerful hero saves the day, gets a kingdom and marries the princess. It's way too perfect. And this is what bugs me. I know this will eventually change but how and when?

Honestly in my opinion the reborn Griffith is a very boring (yet very unique) antagonist. Powerful, beautiful, the ultimate being...I know why he is that way but uuugh... can't wait to see more drama.  :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 21, 2014, 03:35:36 PM
It's like a fairy tale isn't it? The powerful hero saves the day, gets a kingdom and marries the princess. It's way too perfect. And this is what bugs me. I know this will eventually change but how and when?

Patience. We've barely seen what Falconia looks like. Try to enjoy the moment.

Honestly in my opinion the reborn Griffith is a very boring (yet very unique) antagonist.

Well it's not Griffith "reborn", it's Femto in a fleshsuit, which is why he's like that. I find it interesting actually that he has this expressionless look on his face, it's a great way to convey how above it all he is.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 21, 2014, 03:45:38 PM
I find it interesting actually that he has this expressionless look on his face, it's a great way to convey how above it all he is.

Yeh talk about ego! This guy is full of it now.  :femto:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on May 21, 2014, 04:10:40 PM
Never heard of it. But I guess you're just ruminating aloud, and not saying Griffith was based on the guy, right?

Nah, just a coinky dink. I doubt it's on Miura's reading list.

Book spoilers: Kellhus is essentially from a Nietzschean race of ubermensch who can control the hearts of mortal men just from reading their facial movements. He uses his 'gifts' to become a cult leader and hijacks a Holy Crusade for his own agenda. He's crucified by his enemies and 'resurrected', which only reaffirms his messianic authority. Long story short, he becomes Emperor of the world and leads campaigns against the dark forces, but no one knows his real motivations and it's highly suspected he's a false prophet. He's pretty much a sociopath who's willing manipulate or sacrifice anyone for his own ends, and just like Neo-Griffith he has this untouchable status as a saviour of the new world.
I'd highly recommend the series, although it's one of those you really need to be in the mood for, as Bakker can get quite heavy on the philosophy and internalization of the characters.

Anyway, back OT: Partly wishful thinking but I expect that #336 will check in with Guts & co. We've had all the build-up for Falconia, and unless Miura's going to dump us straight into Elfhelm (which I think we can rule out), it's reasonable to assume we're going to go through all this again with Skellig. So from a pacing point of view, it would make sense.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Griffith on May 21, 2014, 04:19:49 PM
Locus meeting Rickert also gave me that reaction.

Well, we can probably just transpose the scene of Mule meeting him. :ganishka:

It does make sense though, if the coronation hasn't occurred yet. Also, Griffith was always front lines leader. Perhaps he'll take that mentality forward, and even along with his godlike status, choose to be identified as a warrior.
Like I told him by chat: Femto only has one Griffith costume. The lounging one was unavailable at the store. :iva:
More seriously, maybe he's just returned from the field, or it's to honor the soldiers.
Well it's not Griffith "reborn", it's Femto in a fleshsuit, which is why he's like that. I find it interesting actually that he has this expressionless look on his face, it's a great way to convey how above it all he is.

Less than the costume it's more that the shtick is the same. The best moments of Griffith's return have by far been the instances he's dropped the mask (especially with Ganishka/Skully). Still hoping we'll get another look at that (or at least his Hill of Swords frankness) in some private time with Rickert, but this is boring "public Griffith" on full display.

Really, this emot sums it up perfectly: :griffnotevil: So, here's hoping for just a little more :femto: around the corner. Even watching him do the Mr. Perfect act while dismissively outmaneuvering nobles to their faces is enough, "Yeah yeah, you don't like me, I don't like you, but I've got all the juice and you don't even know the half of it, so... *yawn*" =)
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Mangetsu on May 21, 2014, 07:59:50 PM
honestly, i thinck that the pacing of the series is really slow right now, but thats just my opinion
the art is good as always but the plot is not moving that fast imo
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 21, 2014, 08:05:51 PM
Even watching him do the Mr. Perfect act while dismissively outmaneuvering nobles to their faces is enough, "Yeah yeah, you don't like me, I don't like you, but I've got all the juice and you don't even know the half of it, so... *yawn*" =)

Honestly I don't think that's even happening anymore. It's just benevolent overlord Griffith going through the motions now.

honestly, i thinck that the pacing of the series is really slow right now, but thats just my opinion
the art is good as always but the plot is not moving that fast imo

It's pretty fast, on the contrary. In just 3 episodes we've seen and learned quite a lot about Fantasia and Falconia.

I have to wonder what would feel like a proper pace to you. Jumping straight to Rickert talking to Griffith, then quick, back to Guts? No "wasted time" sinking in the details? It's pretty disheartening for me to read reactions like that. It reminds me how 10 years ago, people were complaining about the Berserk's armor as it was revealed. I think it's important to enjoy what you have while expecting what's yet to come, otherwise you can never be satisfied.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Tama on May 21, 2014, 08:06:27 PM
Hmm... what is Locus saying to Rickert? I'm curious about the picture with the sword in the forest.  :???:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 21, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
honestly, i thinck that the pacing of the series is really slow right now, but thats just my opinion
the art is good as always but the plot is not moving that fast imo

Not that much actually. I've been rreading the series so far and everything flows nicely when read in a batch. But I understand what you mean.

Damn I'll have to wait the end of my shift to look at the pictures. The site is blocked at work! thx in advance.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Mangetsu on May 21, 2014, 08:10:26 PM
It's pretty fast, on the contrary. In just 3 episodes we've seen and learned quite a lot about Fantasia and Falconia.
now that i thinck about it you are right in that aspect

i probably had to high hopes in seeing the conversation between griffith and Rickert go down in this episode, but i understand that it is necessary to show how falconia is structured etc.

i just want to see guts and co. finally arrive at  Elfhelm haha
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Gummyskull on May 21, 2014, 08:53:11 PM
honestly, i thinck that the pacing of the series is really slow right now, but thats just my opinion

It just seems slow because of the release schedule.
 
i just want to see guts and co. finally arrive in Elfhelm haha

Don't we all? But I love the focus on Falconia.

The shot of Sonia in her Holy See (I assume?) robes just adorable! Her regalia suggests to me that she has an important role within the order now.

How long is Griffith going to be able to keep up his emotionless demeanor before the citizens start becoming suspect? Assuming that his behavior will raise any red flags at all. 
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: ApostleBob on May 21, 2014, 09:11:06 PM
Owen's back! 

I really love the design of the palace.  Seems like it would be nigh impossible to siege with those crisscrossing bottlenecks and murder holes over each arch.  Very impressive up close. 

Also, is it just me, or does the fabric down the front of Sonia's robe really resemble the brand of sacrifice more than the icon usually does.  It almost looks like a Hawk soaring out of the Idea of Evil.  Pretty cool stuff.

Can't wait for a translation!
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 21, 2014, 09:51:53 PM
The shot of Sonia in her Holy See (I assume?) robes just adorable! Her regalia suggests to me that she has an important role within the order now.

I think that goes without saying. She could be next in line when the Pontiff dies, too.

How long is Griffith going to be able to keep up his emotionless demeanor before the citizens start becoming suspect? Assuming that his behavior will raise any red flags at all.

Well, so far so good. They're all captivated by what he's doing in this episode.

I really love the design of the palace.  Seems like it would be nigh impossible to siege with those crisscrossing bottlenecks and murder holes over each arch.  Very impressive up close.

Indeed, it's completely impregnable. A fortress as otherworldly as its ruler is.

Also, is it just me, or does the fabric down the front of Sonia's robe really resemble the brand of sacrifice more than the icon usually does.  It almost looks like a Hawk soaring out of the Idea of Evil.  Pretty cool stuff.

Yeah, the way it's done actually reminds me of a post by Walter (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=876.0) from over 10 years ago about the clear link between the Brand, the Falcon symbol and the Idea of Evil.

And then there's this picture I made. (http://aazealh.net/Divers/IoE-Tree.jpg) :void:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 21, 2014, 10:01:22 PM
Arggh!!! All your comments makes me want to leave work early damn it can't wait to visualise what you guys are talking about! Spoil me something to tease me more!

I'm gonna go continue my volume 19 while I wait stupidly at work!

I've come home and this beautiful episode was waiting for me! The details, the beauty.... I'm glad. Every time we get new info I'm getting more and more curious. I wonder what they are saying in the panel with the sword planted in the ground...

And on page 3 (if I'm not wrong) there's something that says 10th mystery? What is it?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 22, 2014, 12:39:10 AM
I've come home and this beautiful episode was waiting for me! The details, the beauty.... I'm glad. Every time we get new info I'm getting more and more curious. I wonder what they are saying in the panel with the sword planted in the ground...
Won't know this until we can get our hands on the Japanese pages. So far all we have are Chinese... But my guess on the sword is that it's Locus speaking figuratively, possibly about Griffith.

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And on page 3 (if I'm not wrong) there's something that says 10th mystery? What is it?

That text isn't on the pics that LOicos posted, so I'd assume that's some bullshit slapped on by the Chinese scanners (great work, guys).

I'm not seeing an episode title. Anyone else? Ah, there it is. Top left. Too small to read.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 22, 2014, 03:09:45 AM
Won't know this until we can get our hands on the Japanese pages. So far all we have are Chinese... But my guess on the sword is that it's Locus speaking figuratively, possibly about Griffith.

That text isn't on the pics that LOicos posted, so I'd assume that's some bullshit slapped on by the Chinese scanners (great work, guys).

I'm not seeing an episode title. Anyone else? Ah, there it is. Top left. Too small to read.

thanks Walter. Thats why even though I don't speak Japanese I thought the characters were strange vs what I usually see in the Japanese version!
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Oburi on May 22, 2014, 03:59:15 AM
I don't know how anyone can complain about pacing when this is one of the most epic episodes we've got in a while, even more so when considering how long its been since we last saw Griffith in person. Even with his disguise he's such a fasinating antagonist and an amazing character I can never get enough of him, certainly never find him "boring". The artwork is just brilliant. The way Miura conveys size and scope in his art is masterful. The angles he's using are perfectly effective. I feel as if I'm right there with Rickert feeling dwarfed entering this massive fortress, staring up at how impossibly high it goes. Like it was built by giants.

These last few episodes into Falconia have been amazing start to finish, and the best has yet to come. Shame on anyone who can't see that :azan:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 22, 2014, 08:48:54 AM
I'm not seeing an episode title. Anyone else? Ah, there it is. Top left. Too small to read.

The title is: "Divine right of kingship". It's also what Locus tells Rickert about on page 18.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 22, 2014, 04:02:54 PM
The title is: "Divine right of kingship". It's also what Locus tells Rickert about on page 18.

Thanks. Well, it certainly fits. It's really quite a neat twist Miura's making to the traditional meaning of the phrase. What with "god" being something wholly different in the Berserk world. It's pretty terrifying how irrevocably Griffith has cemented his rule.

I absolutely love page 4 (Rickert looking UP). Fucking amazing.

So, Elfhelm next episode? More Falconia? What's the overall opinion?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Jaze1618 on May 22, 2014, 04:26:38 PM
I would be surprised if we got any major screen time with Roderick and Co before Rickert has his meeting with Griffith. Isn't that what he received the summons for in 334?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 22, 2014, 04:50:55 PM
I would be surprised if we got any major screen time with Roderick and Co before Rickert has his meeting with Griffith. Isn't that what he received the summons for in 334?
It is true that leaving the story here would seem to betray all the Griffith/Rickert hype that's been building since 333. Seeing him perform miracles from afar isn't really much of a reunion. There's definitely room for more.

The only real reason I was suggesting the transition could happen now is the break (which across the past decade almost always accompany a perspective transition). But then, there've been breaks since the series returned from hiatus. A 1-2 month break between releases could simply be the new norm (I'd also be totally down with a slow but predictable release schedule).

Someone earlier criticized the pacing here as slow. I really don't see how that can be said if you consider the actual story events independent of these release hiccups. Just four episodes ago, we were watching the Moonlight Boy fly across the sky, and now we're in the heart of Falconia after one of the series' biggest reveals -- quite a lot has transpired.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 22, 2014, 04:56:56 PM
I would be surprised if we got any major screen time with Roderick and Co before Rickert has his meeting with Griffith. Isn't that what he received the summons for in 334?

Well I was on that side earlier, thinking that we might get the conversation before switching to Guts and co. But seeing that there is no date for the next episode I'm starting to think that we might have that switch before we see (if we'll see it at all) the conversation. Because how I see this episode (and I might be totally wrong about that) maybe this was the audience with Griffith...

So a little bit of money on the arrival at Skellig Island at least... (a man can dream right?)

Walter beat me again to what I was thinking with the break.

On a side not I don't mind the 1 month or 2 month break.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: RanShi on May 22, 2014, 05:51:07 PM
Oh shit.... I never imagined it going in this direction. I'm so fucking happy and stoked to see the new episode now. Thanks everyone for sharing the images, you made my day.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Maxwell on May 22, 2014, 09:31:53 PM
So, Elfhelm next episode? More Falconia? What's the overall opinion?

I'm thinking more Falconia. This event can't be the only reason why Griffith summoned Rickert. I think if we were going to transition to Guts it would've been after last episode.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Delta Phi on May 22, 2014, 10:56:10 PM
I don't see the POV moving until after Griffith and Rickert's meeting. I think it could transition after maybe Griffith makes a revealing comment to Rickert to create some kind of cliffhanger/tension.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Jaze1618 on May 22, 2014, 11:41:19 PM
I don't see the POV moving until after Griffith and Rickert's meeting. I think it could transition after maybe Griffith makes a revealing comment to Rickert to create some kind of cliffhanger/tension.

I know I've been reading too much Robert Kirkman, when reading your post has me imagine a tense 1:1 meeting between Rickert and Griffith next episode, with an abrupt and shocking ending where on the final page, Griffith kills Rickert suddenly and without warning. (via a Shang Tsung style soul steal no less). "I don't want you spreading rumors about me." Ala his last words to Gennon.

Leaving readers to ponder what's next for poor Erica, when the following episode transitions to back to Guts.









Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 23, 2014, 01:58:06 AM
I don't think Rickert's knowledge is very threatening to Griffith right now though...
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 23, 2014, 02:04:45 AM
I know I've been reading too much Robert Kirkman, when reading you post has me imagine a tense 1:1 meeting between Rickert and Griffith next episode, with an abrupt and shocking ending where on the final, page Griffith kills Rickert suddenly and without warning, (via a Shang Tsung style soul steal). "I don't want you spreading rumors about me." Ala his last words to Gennon.

Leaving readers to ponder what's next for poor Erica, when the following episode transitions to back to Guts.

Yeah, this is kid's stuff for Femto. There's no need to do anything like that.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: medicalmidget on May 23, 2014, 05:47:19 AM
Thanks. Well, it certainly fits. It's really quite a neat twist Miura's making to the traditional meaning of the phrase. What with "god" being something wholly different in the Berserk world. It's pretty terrifying how irrevocably Griffith has cemented his rule.

I absolutely love page 4 (Rickert looking UP). Fucking amazing.

So, Elfhelm next episode? More Falconia? What's the overall opinion?

I'm of the opinion that we are still going to get more Falconia next episode. Rickert, from what it looks like currently, still hasn't had a proper chat with Griffith about all the events going on. We  also still haven't seen the inside of the throne room. Though I could see that being saved for more important events such as a war meeting on the raid of Elfhelm.

I also think Miura has big plans for Elfhelm and wants to save that for later; especially since that will finally be when we get off the boat which will no doubt be a glorious moment for all fans.

In other news, I am glad to be a part of this forum! Chose to watch the anime in November due to the fair amount of praise it, or the manga I should say, got. After finishing it I bought the Dark Horse collection of Berserk and been a fan since. Even got a friend to go out and buy the series.

Thanks again Walter and Aazealh for keeping this community alive with your guys' activeness in it (and creation of course).
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Mr. Waffles on May 23, 2014, 08:33:35 AM
Sonia is so freaking adorable in her little outfit  :ubik:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 23, 2014, 09:32:13 PM
In other news, I am glad to be a part of this forum! Chose to watch the anime in November due to the fair amount of praise it, or the manga I should say, got. After finishing it I bought the Dark Horse collection of Berserk and been a fan since. Even got a friend to go out and buy the series.

Thanks again Walter and Aazealh for keeping this community alive with your guys' activeness in it (and creation of course).

That's great to know. Welcome aboard! :SK:

Though I could see that being saved for more important events such as a war meeting on the raid of Elfhelm.

I honestly just cannot see that happening.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Constantly_Shaved on May 24, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
Hey guys :)

Before I get to my main point , I just wanted to say you guys have an AWESOME community for Berserk here ,
never thought there would be this kind of community for this truly fantastic manga !

I predict that in the next episode, we will have Rickert talking alone with Griffith in the "throne room" or whatever , and
Rickert will say something along the lines ; "Guts told me about the ...[eclipse] why would you do that?!" and Griffith will respond that it was necessary for humanity. I hope the last page of 336 will be a HUGE panorama of Elfhelm / Skellig , just like Miura did with Falconia. :)

Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on May 24, 2014, 10:29:10 AM
As I said previously, I think pacing-wise #336 will check in with Guts & co. For one, we've probably got all the set-up with Skellig to come before any major developments. And secondly, I can imagine Miura doing a juxtaposition between Griffith telling Rickert his version of the Eclipse, and Casca having to relive the real thing before her sanity can be restored.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Benin on May 24, 2014, 07:50:50 PM
Ah the fallen angel on earth, manipulating humans by offering them paradise, haven, desires and comfort within his domain. Will someone survive 40 days and nights to counter him? :iva:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: IronBerserk on May 25, 2014, 06:35:02 AM
I don't know how anyone can complain about pacing when this is one of the most epic episodes we've got in a while, even more so when considering how long its been since we last saw Griffith in person. Even with his disguise he's such a fasinating antagonist and an amazing character I can never get enough of him, certainly never find him "boring". The artwork is just brilliant. The way Miura conveys size and scope in his art is masterful. The angles he's using are perfectly effective. I feel as if I'm right there with Rickert feeling dwarfed entering this massive fortress, staring up at how impossibly high it goes. Like it was built by giants.

These last few episodes into Falconia have been amazing start to finish, and the best has yet to come. Shame on anyone who can't see that :azan:

Well said my friend, and yes I did definitely notice...so no shame on me :) lol! Every Berserk episode is simply stunning to watch and read. Literature, philosophy, and politics are my passion and nothing in this generation of literature compares to Berserk. I can't even read what their saying and I'm already in awe :P lmao

As for the pacing issue some people have, I actually agree with Aazealh in that its sad people still think such wrong ideas. Read it in bulks and your complaints will be thrown out the window. Miura does not write these episodes in relation to the time spent in between the releases. He paces his episodes in a way that makes everything go smoothly once you read it all at once...the way it's supposed to be read. The pacing only feels long because people are simply impatient for the next episode to come out. That simple.

Also another thing I want to point out is if this soul controlling technique of Griffith's is actually real? Are those actually the souls of dead loved one's or is he once again manipulating the minds of people by just showing images of the dead? And yes, I'm well aware that they talk, but they don't exactly say anything important or personal.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 25, 2014, 03:17:55 PM
Also another thing I want to point out is if this soul controlling technique of Griffith's is actually real? Are those actually the souls of dead loved one's or is he once again manipulating the minds of people by just showing images of the dead? And yes, I'm well aware that they talk, but they don't exactly say anything important or personal.

We don't have any reason to believe that it's an illusion, or that it's something beyond his power, or that  he's faking it. Where do you see them talking...?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on May 25, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
We don't have any reason to believe that it's an illusion, or that it's something beyond his power so he's faking it. Where do you see them talking...?

He might mean in volume 23, when we see Griffith pulling this stunt the first time.  A father tells his wife and child to "Be well..." before disappearing.  But anyway, I don't think it's an illusion.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: IronBerserk on May 25, 2014, 04:05:04 PM
He might mean in volume 23, when we see Griffith pulling this stunt the first time.  A father tells his wife and child to "Be well..." before disappearing.  But anyway, I don't think it's an illusion.

Exactly, I was talking about volume 23. The man tells his wife and child, "take care" or "be well..." depending on which translation you read. I'm willing to bet this is all a hoax. I mean, Griffith is still a Godhand. The last time I checked, the Godhand were not able to manipulate the spirits of the dead. Maybe they can manipulate to a certain extent evil spirits, the ones that end up in hell like we see in the first arc with the Count. But even then I'd be skeptical. People who end up in hell seem to be part of a rule or law that not even the Godhand can touch.

Of course right now I'm just playing guessing games through observation. Definitely could be all wrong.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 25, 2014, 04:13:09 PM
Exactly, I was talking about volume 23. The man tells his wife and child, "take care" or "be well..." depending on which translation you read.


Got it. I'd forgotten that panel.

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I'm willing to bet this is all a hoax. I mean, Griffith is still a Godhand. The last time I checked, the Godhand were not able to manipulate the spirits of the dead. Maybe they can manipulate to a certain extent evil spirits, the ones that end up in hell like we see in the first arc with the Count. But even then I'd be skeptical. People who end up in hell seem to be part of a rule or law that not even the Godhand can touch.

These are recently deceased spirits, still clinging to the corporeal world. It's different from those bound to the vortex of souls. I don't think it's farfetched to assume a God Hand can do something like this at all, considering what he was able to do against the Skull Knight.

It actually sounds like it'd be more work for him to create a fake light show involving those specific dead people.

I also don't think it's logical to go so far as to limit the exact relationship between the God Hand and the Vortex, as so far it's been rather nebulous. It's tied to ceremonies, and bestowing power. But we don't know for sure that the God Hand don't have some way to control or direct it. But if I had to guess, I'd say it acts independently but in mutual benefit to the God Hand's ceremonies. But there's no rule on that.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on May 25, 2014, 05:15:42 PM
The last time I checked, the Godhand were not able to manipulate the spirits of the dead.

I don't think we can make any presumptions about the extent of the God Hand's power quite yet.  They are still largely a mystery to us and what's been shown of their powers thus far have been quite extraordinary.  Manipulating recently departed souls doesn't surprise me at all and it certainly carries some disturbing implications.  :femto:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Delta Phi on May 25, 2014, 07:35:06 PM
After seeing what Void did to the Skull Knight's strike during the Eclipse, as well as Femto's displays of power during the Count's 2nd ceremony, the Eclipse, and what happened atop Ganishka, there's no reason whatsoever to deny what he's doing is real. I won't completely rule out the possibility that it's an illusion, but I bet it's definitely within Griffith's power to recall (recently deceased) spirits.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: SaiyajinNoOuji on May 25, 2014, 07:42:04 PM
One Episode is never enough to quench the thirst of Berserk.  :beast:

A quick point about the scans being early. This has actually been a thing within the last 4 to 6 months now... with Japanese publishers releasing their Magazines in China to help promote their manga's, they have been leaking the shit HELLA early. This happened with One Piece and other manga's as well.

As for the Episode itself, Miura loves that detail and it shows, the art is beautiful. This helps to just keep the illusion going on the "perfect" world that is here.

What I am curious about is that WHEN everything comes down and Griffith/Femto gives the order to chow down, how are the Apostles going to feel about it? I know some of you are thinking that its going to be an automatic thing with no remorse but I wonder about that.

During the fight with Ganishka we had seen that everyone fought together, sure they needed a bit of encouragement to do it. Now in "peace" I wouldn't find it too hard to see that  folks have developed certain relationships with respect. Thus making the future event even more awesome and gut wrenching!  :ubik:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 25, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
Hey guys :)
Before I get to my main point, I just wanted to say you guys have an AWESOME community for Berserk here, never thought there would be this kind of community for this truly fantastic manga !

Hi, and welcome to the forum! We're glad to have you among us.

Also another thing I want to point out is if this soul controlling technique of Griffith's is actually real?

I believe it's real, but there might still be a catch to it beyond what we know.

What I am curious about is that WHEN everything comes down and Griffith/Femto gives the order to chow down, how are the Apostles going to feel about it? I know some of you are thinking that its going to be an automatic thing with no remorse but I wonder about that. During the fight with Ganishka we had seen that everyone fought together, sure they needed a bit of encouragement to do it. Now in "peace" I wouldn't find it too hard to see that  folks have developed certain relationships with respect. Thus making the future event even more awesome and gut wrenching!

I really think you're going at this the wrong way. This whole idea that somehow Falconia is just a giant cauldron for a final sacrifice where apostles will eat everybody is downright simplistic. Rather, from what we know of the world of Berserk and what we've seen of Fantasia and Falconia so far, and especially with the addition of this episode, it seems to me that what's being set up here is complete control of the human population. And not just control of their lives but control of their deaths, too.

I think it may very well be that the God Hand is bypassing the natural order of things by somehow isolating the population of Falconia from the "great ocean of souls" that exists down at the very bottow of the Astral World. Maybe they're sending them all directly to the "evil" part of that ocean (the Vortex of Souls), or maybe they're storing them in that huge sphere we've seen in Falconia, but either way I don't think we're being shown that power of Griffith just for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Tama on May 26, 2014, 01:42:10 AM
I think it may very well be that the God Hand is bypassing the natural order of things by somehow isolating the population of Falconia from the "great ocean of souls" that exists down at the very bottow of the Astral World. Maybe they're sending them all directly to the "evil" part of that ocean (the Vortex of Souls), or maybe they're storing them in that huge sphere we've seen in Falconia, but either way I don't think we're being shown that power of Griffith just for the sake of it.

Now that's a scary thought, but could be the case.  :magni: I wonder if down the line we will see Rickert stumble across something that fills us in on what might be really happening behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 26, 2014, 01:59:19 AM
I really think you're going at this the wrong way. This whole idea that somehow Falconia is just a giant cauldron for a final sacrifice where apostles will eat everybody is downright simplistic.

Indeed, and things haven't been that simple since apostles and humans began working together. That relationship fundamentally changed on that day. Humans are willing to accept their monstrous forms. I doubt Falconia is being set up just to be an elaborate chew toy.

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Rather, from what we know of the world of Berserk and what we've seen of Fantasia and Falconia so far, and especially with the addition of this episode, it seems to me that what's being set up here is complete control of the human population. And not just control of their lives but control of their deaths, too.

I think it may very well be that the God Hand is bypassing the natural order of things by somehow isolating the population of Falconia from the "great ocean of souls" that exists down at the very bottow of the Astral World. Maybe they're sending them all directly to the "evil" part of that ocean (the Vortex of Souls), or maybe they're storing them in that huge sphere we've seen in Falconia, but either way I don't think we're being shown that power of Griffith just for the sake of it.

It's a chilling thought. I'm not quite sure of its implications, though. We know so little about how the abyss works in that regard, I'm not sure how the God Hand or the Idea of Evil would benefit. However, reading your words "bypassing the natural order of things" certainly rings true.

I wonder if down the line we will see Rickert stumble across something that fills us in on what might be really happening behind the scenes.

Our perspective in Falconia isn't limited to Rickert.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Saintly pants on May 26, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
There are a few things that have been bothering me about certain characters and places lately:

Sonia: Does she know everything? :femto: I guess not.  :griffnotevil:

Charlotte: I want to bet she will sacrifice Anna at some point to become an apostle. Because that is the point of Anna being there. Probably when the truth about Griffith is revealed. Instead of turning against him, she will join him fully. I just feel it this way because Griffiths control over Charlotte is now absolute.

The pope: We will see his upcoming death from his point of view. And he will go abruptly from "Finally paradise!" to "OH SHIT!!! NOOOO!!! I NEED TO HAVE MY FLESH BAAACK!!!!!" (Two page spread of the vortex) He will be the first to see the truth. I'm already getting cold sweats thinking about it.

Falconia: I suspect it has a "true form" and we currently see a mask. Exactly like Griffith himself is. The true form will be the stuff of manga legends.  :magni:

Luca: Just guessing, but a possible path her character can be taken on is her being "corrupted" by the comfortable life in Falconia. Luca functions great in terrible situations, but how will she hold up when she actually has something to lose? When it becomes clear Falconia is fake as a (huge) wedding cake, will she try to cling to it? Just a theory.

Falconia again: Could it be inspired by "Germania", the planned (but thankfully never build) Nazi megalopolis? It could be because it also was designed as a HUGE city of marble and pompousness with in the center the "Volkshalle". A humongous white dome in wich all the subjugate people of the world where to pledge their loyalty to the thousand year Nazi empire. (Goodwin etc., but I had to say it)

(Just quickly jumping in to drop some ideas)
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 26, 2014, 10:27:24 AM
Sonia: Does she know everything? :femto: I guess not.  :griffnotevil:

Charlotte: I want to bet she will sacrifice Anna at some point to become an apostle. Because that is the point of Anna being there. Probably when the truth about Griffith is revealed. Instead of turning against him, she will join him fully. I just feel it this way because Griffiths control over Charlotte is now absolute.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. But some of these notions are pretty off. Charlotte sacrificing Anna? Sacrifices have to be the thing you hold most dear, not just a faithful handmaiden. For Charlotte, it could only be one person. And that's not going to happen...

I actually think both of these characters are set up to betray Griffith in the end. Sonia is almost a sure thing, given her friendship with Schierke. And for Charlotte, instead of being loyal to the end, I've always thought it would be more interesting for her to learn the truth about Grifith, and in spite of her love for him would help bring about his downfall. I mentioned this back on Episode 2 of the SkullKast, but remember in Volume 10, during the Wyndham infiltration that Charlotte assists the Falcons with, she recognizes Guts and Casca. She'll probably remember them if she sees them again, and might wonder why Griffith's formerly trusted captains would oppose him so vehemently.

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The pope: We will see his upcoming death from his point of view. And he will go abruptly from "Finally paradise!" to "OH SHIT!!! NOOOO!!! I NEED TO HAVE MY FLESH BAAACK!!!!!" (Two page spread of the vortex) He will be the first to see the truth. I'm already getting cold sweats thinking about it.

Hahahah, well could be. But rather I think he's so devoted and warped at this point that he'd see the Vortex as a thing of beauty, and in your scenario, THAT would be the chilling part. Of course, maybe he's not bound for the vortex.   :void:

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Falconia: I suspect it has a "true form" and we currently see a mask. Exactly like Griffith himself is. The true form will be the stuff of manga legends.  :magni:

It already is the stuff of legends.

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Luca: Just guessing, but a possible path her character can be taken on is her being "corrupted" by the comfortable life in Falconia. Luca functions great in terrible situations, but how will she hold up when she actually has something to lose? When it becomes clear Falconia is fake as a (huge) wedding cake, will she try to cling to it? Just a theory.

Doesn't sound true to her character, to me. She's the epitome of bootstrapping humanity.

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Falconia again: Could it be inspired by "Germania", the planned (but thankfully never build) Nazi megalopolis? It could be because it also was designed as a HUGE city of marble and pompousness with in the center the "Volkshalle". A humongous white dome in wich all the subjugate people of the world where to pledge their loyalty to the thousand year Nazi empire. (Goodwin etc., but I had to say it)

(Just quickly jumping in to drop some ideas)

Yep, we pointed this out back in 2010.  (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=10790.msg175756#msg175756) But I still don't think it's a sure thing. Just something that came to mind for me when I first saw Falconia, and attempted to find real-world comparisons.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Mangetsu on May 26, 2014, 06:50:43 PM
Miura's Comment: Its been a while for Berserk, drawing scenes of spectacle takes time.



Edit: Confirmed
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 26, 2014, 07:20:29 PM
I guess we'll keep having over the top episodes! That's good news!  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Sammoniac on May 26, 2014, 09:43:36 PM
Miura's Comment: Its been a while for Berserk, drawing scenes of spectacle takes time.

Looks like we're in for one hell of a ride. Behold, for great things shall be revealed to us!  :magni:

To be a Berserk fan is a such an immeasurably splendid thing.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: medicalmidget on May 27, 2014, 04:58:58 AM
That's great to know. Welcome aboard! :SK:

I honestly just cannot see that happening.

Cannot see what happening? Elfhelm raid or throne room reveal due to a war meeting? I understand why you would think that for both. It does seem pretty wasteful to show off the throne room for such a mundane event.

Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 27, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
Cannot see what happening? Elfhelm raid or throne room reveal due to a war meeting? I understand why you would think that for both. It does seem pretty wasteful to show off the throne room for such a mundane event.

I don't think we'll be shown a war meeting about a raid on Elfhelm.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Tama on May 27, 2014, 12:09:20 PM
For some reason I get this feeling that Griffith isn't going to raid Elfhelm or anything like that; I feel like Guts, Casca, and group are going to have a decision to make to seek him out this time or head back there when the time is right. Whether it's for revenge, the Moonlight Boy or however the story progresses.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: kapsi on May 27, 2014, 04:21:57 PM
Do all humans go to hell in Berserk or only some?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on May 27, 2014, 04:40:50 PM
Do all humans go to hell in Berserk or only some?

It's not something we have complete information on (surprise), but as said in volume 24, souls are divided according to their karma.

For more info, here's a quote from a 2008 post I made on the subject:

For all we know, most humans end up in the Vortex anyway, unless they're someone like Flora who can circumvent the natural(read: evil) order of things. As far as we know, Griffith's involvement here hasn't altered the course of these humans' spirits.

The concentrated evil of departed human souls is what comprises the Vortex. Upon the death of those involved in the affairs of the God Hand, the Vortex rises up and rips away the "evilness" from the body of an apostle or branded, leaving only their unspoiled human shell behind. Here's some quotes to support this (though we also see it quite clearly in vol 11).

Quote from: Vol 3
Femto: Count, the undulation of your soul is close to pure evil. If your flesh expires, your soul, captured in the evil magnetic wave, will certainly fall down to Hell. And, you will wander about that crucible of dark thought for all eternity.
Femto: Before long, maintaining your individuality will become an impossibility. You will become one undulation, melting in the sea of the darkside of the soul in order to let fall a drop into the water.
Slann: That is the fate of those who were related to evil (spirits).

Quote from: Vol 23
Mule: Those lights... What... Are they... Where did they...?
Griffith: To where they can join as one.

Quote from:  Vol 24
Flora: And below that... Is where people, divided according to their karma, May find the realms known as heaven or hell.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 27, 2014, 04:41:37 PM
For some reason I get this feeling that Griffith isn't going to raid Elfhelm or anything like that; I feel like Guts, Casca, and group are going to have a decision to make to seek him out this time or head back there when the time is right. Whether it's for revenge, the Moonlight Boy or however the story progresses.

A wise feeling.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Delta Phi on May 27, 2014, 04:47:19 PM
Do all humans go to hell in Berserk or only some?

I had started on a response, but Walter beat me to it, and, expectedly, had a better answer. I completely forgot about Flora's comment about karmic division. Looks like it's time for another read through to refresh myself on those early-mid volumes.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 27, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Funny that we're talking about that part, I just read it yesterday! But those translations looks nicer then the dark horse one... oh well. Thinking on whats next, I change my opinion, I think we'll get two more episodes in Falconia before the switch.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: lon3vvolf on May 29, 2014, 02:38:20 PM
Reading everyones thoughts and theories I can see any of them happening.  With this release I believe the next big event will be if Griffith tells Rickert how he got to this point without leaving any details out.  I don't think this will happen as when he asked Guts to assassinate Julius because he didn't want the others to know about his "dirty deeds."

With Rickert knowing some things from Guts, I think he will find out everything himself and honestly I don't know how he will react. I'd like to think he would become Guts and companies inside man.  We shall see.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Deci on May 30, 2014, 08:53:09 AM
Really spectacular episode! I really love how Miura has drawn Falconia and I'm anxious to see Rickert meet Griffith once again, knowing what he knows from Guts on the hill of swords. And continuing this summer? So exciting!! Always pleasant to have a comment from Miura as well, I can imagine his hand must be really sore from drawing so many fantastic frames.  :serpico:  So worth it in the end.

Next few releases will almost certainly be with Rickert in my opinion, and I love it personally. =)

Quote from: Aazealh
And then there's this picture I made. (http://aazealh.net/Divers/IoE-Tree.jpg) :void:

Thank you for that.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on May 30, 2014, 01:28:13 PM
I can't wait to find out where Silat & co. have been hiding.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 30, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
I can't wait to find out where Silat & co. have been hiding.

True! did they enter Falconia and being low profile as Daiba? Or are they wandering the monster filled land on their own?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on May 31, 2014, 07:45:51 PM
With this release I believe the next big event will be if Griffith tells Rickert how he got to this point without leaving any details out.  I don't think this will happen as when he asked Guts to assassinate Julius because he didn't want the others to know about his "dirty deeds."

With Rickert knowing some things from Guts, I think he will find out everything himself and honestly I don't know how he will react. I'd like to think he would become Guts and companies inside man.  We shall see.

You know, there's a world of difference between the Griffith who asked Guts to do his dirty deeds and the one who's standing in that room now. Besides, Rickert already knows the crucial part from Guts, so there's not much for him to find out. He could ask for confirmation, or why he did it, but the "big reveal" already took place long ago. There are many other things we could learn from that encounter, though. From what's happened since the last time we saw Falconia, to what Griffith's plans are, and so on.

True! did they enter Falconia and being low profile as Daiba? Or are they wandering the monster filled land on their own?

I'd like to see them out in the woods, busting down monsters with their hard-earned skills and finally carving out a place for themselves in this new world.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 01, 2014, 03:22:50 AM

I'd like to see them out in the woods, busting down monsters with their hard-earned skills and finally carving out a place for themselves in this new world.

That would indeed be something quite interesting to see. I'm more of that opinion too.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Skeleton on June 01, 2014, 03:53:01 AM
I'd like to see them out in the woods, busting down monsters with their hard-earned skills and finally carving out a place for themselves in this new world.

That's what I've always hoped for.  Outside of Guts and his crew, if there was ever a group with the means and mindset to survive in this new world it's them.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on June 01, 2014, 12:44:39 PM
That's what I've always hoped for.  Outside of Guts and his crew, if there was ever a group with the means and mindset to survive in this new world it's them.

It's particularly fitting because the Bakiraka haven't had a land to call their own, so they've been nomadic. Now (presumably) everyone's in the same scenario.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Mammon on June 01, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
I think it's also fitting because of Rakshas's presence in Falconia, a former member of said Bakiraka and one of Femto's top henchman.
I know he is mysterious and all, but you would think that he wouldn't have much trouble finding them if they were hiding in Falconia...

Actually I don't have any ground for this presumption... if I'm going to make wild predictions, maybe he will have an encounter with Daiba (they must have some sort of history together) and we will finally learn more about him and his story?  :rakshas:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on June 01, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
if I'm going to make wild predictions, maybe he will have an encounter with Daiba (they must have some sort of history together)

I wouldn't be so sure about Rakshas and Daiba having a history together. The Bakiraka clan was exiled long before Ganishka rose to power, and we haven't had any hint that Daiba was ever connected to them.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Mammon on June 02, 2014, 01:11:30 AM
My bad, I'm in New-Caledonia (been 3 years now) and I didn't bring my manga collections... so for some volumes, I haven't read them in years.
Thanks for clarifying anyway! 
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on June 02, 2014, 11:40:12 AM
No problem. And that doesn't preclude the possibility that Daiba and Rakshas might meet at some point.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: CrimsonBehelit216 on June 13, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
Interesting turn of events, although I find the direction of the story a little peculiar. The god hand seemed to have strongly emphasized the coming of a dark age after Femto was born, but since Griffith showed up again he's done nothing but good for humanity, or so it would appear on the surface. Falconia is heaven on earth. It is a little too early to tell, but could this be a facade for something more sinister the reader is not aware of, or did Griffith/Femto have a change of heart?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Delta Phi on June 13, 2014, 04:19:42 AM
Interesting turn of events, although I find the direction of the story a little peculiar. The god hand seemed to have strongly emphasized the coming of a dark age after Femto was born, but since Griffith showed up again he's done nothing but good for humanity, or so it would appear on the surface. Falconia is heaven on earth. It is a little too early to tell, but could this be a facade for something more sinister the reader is not aware of, or did Griffith/Femto have a change of heart?

There's most certainly something sinister underneath all the white and wings of Falconia. Griffith is merely selling the lie. We just don't know how much further Griffith's ambition will take him. Up until now his dream has been to rule, and now he has what he's always wanted. At the heart of things he's still Femto, not Griffith (or at least not the Griffith during the Golden Age arc), and he's very much evil.

Look at the things the God Hand talks about in Volume 3 and Volume 13. They mention evil (though the Japanese word also has another meaning, "magic". From what I understand, the God Hand and Apostles are enhanced by evil power, hence their monstrous appearances, and we can see from episode 303 that Femto is very much still around, parading in front of the masses as Griffith.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on June 13, 2014, 12:55:35 PM
Interesting turn of events, although I find the direction of the story a little peculiar. The god hand seemed to have strongly emphasized the coming of a dark age after Femto was born, but since Griffith showed up again he's done nothing but good for humanity, or so it would appear on the surface. Falconia is heaven on earth. It is a little too early to tell, but could this be a facade for something more sinister the reader is not aware of, or did Griffith/Femto have a change of heart?

First off, keep in mind that the world at large is now incredibly inhospitable to humans. Falconia may be a safe haven, but it's the one and only place for these people, and that means they don't have much of a choice regarding their way of life. Second, I think if you've read all of the story so far, it's quite obvious that Griffith's nice guy act is indeed a facade for something more sinister. There really isn't any doubt in that regard and it's just a matter of time until it's made more apparent.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Doc on June 13, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
Interesting turn of events, although I find the direction of the story a little peculiar. The god hand seemed to have strongly emphasized the coming of a dark age after Femto was born, but since Griffith showed up again he's done nothing but good for humanity, or so it would appear on the surface. Falconia is heaven on earth. It is a little too early to tell, but could this be a facade for something more sinister the reader is not aware of, or did Griffith/Femto have a change of heart?

Has Griffith "done nothing but good for humanity?" Like Aaz already intimated, he's basically enslaved mankind as a species because their only salvation from the horror of the outside world is to enter Falconia, but in true dystopian style it's pointing towards some dark truth beneath the facade. And consider that Falconia, for all its scale and grandeur, still only houses a minority of humanfolk. Think of all the unlucky bystanders that have already fallen victim to the fantasy creatures invading the world, and will continue to do so. We have Griffith to thank for all of this.  :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: CrimsonBehelit216 on June 16, 2014, 06:15:48 AM
Thank you for clearing all that up for me, you've made my appreciation for berserk even greater. Kentaro Miura is a genius, his berserk is becoming my favorite manga series. Cheers!
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Constantly_Shaved on June 19, 2014, 08:12:47 PM
Absolutely love that Miura is giving us so much eye candy in 334 - 335 !

Im pumped to see how Rickert will interact with "God" Griffith , it“s been a while for the two of them eh?
thing is im not sure where Griffith“s conquest goes from here? I mean he now has his Kingdom , is he just going to chill a bit now?^^

I bet we see some Elfhelm soon ! 336 will be Rickert talking to Griffith and last page will be some tease ? ...I just wanna see Guts get some rest , like when he was back at Floras crib.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on June 20, 2014, 01:06:31 AM
Im pumped to see how Rickert will interact with "God" Griffith , it“s been a while for the two of them eh?

Only a little less than a year since the Hill of Swords, I'd wager.

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thing is im not sure where Griffith“s conquest goes from here? I mean he now has his Kingdom , is he just going to chill a bit now?^^

The arrival of Falconia likely isn't the end of the God Hand's plans.

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I bet we see some Elfhelm soon !

The current chapter is Elf Island, so that's pretty much a given.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: andrewdsz on June 26, 2014, 07:34:51 AM
So now what if guts are about to show up in front of griffith's face and try to kill the king of last humanity's save spot? Will falconia shatter into ashes upon griffith's death and human will extinct after the refugee camp vanished? guts are very likely in a dead corner now. :sad: :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Walter on June 26, 2014, 02:11:21 PM
So now what if guts are about to show up in front of griffith's face and try to kill the king of last humanity's save spot? Will falconia shatter into ashes upon griffith's death and human will extinct after the refugee camp vanished? guts are very likely in a dead corner now. :sad: :griffnotevil:

There is probably a middle ground. Surviving in the new world not by slaughtering all magical creatures, but by allying with them, working with them for mutual survival. It's something we could see a lot more of in Elfhelm.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Tama on June 26, 2014, 05:03:05 PM
Do you guys think that Guts and Casca will get the brand removed in some way later in the story? The elf king would be a good start, but we don't really know what all his powers are at the moment, or if he can do that sort of thing. I'm wondering if the series can still end on a positive note but with both of them still having that.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on June 26, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
So now what if guts are about to show up in front of griffith's face and try to kill the king of last humanity's save spot? Will falconia shatter into ashes upon griffith's death and human will extinct after the refugee camp vanished? guts are very likely in a dead corner now.

I'm pretty sure that whatever the God Hand has in mind for humanity is a lot worse than having to fend off trolls and goblins. Like Walter said, humans could always learn to live in that new world, rediscovering the old ways (including magic) and allying with benevolent astral creatures to protect themselves from the dangerous ones.

Do you guys think that Guts and Casca will get the brand removed in some way later in the story?

Maybe at the very end. The King of the Flower Storm might provide some information on what that would entail, but I don't think he'll be able to just lift it at this point in the story.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Tripas on June 29, 2014, 10:56:02 PM
I don't think the Elf King's power will be able to remove the Brands. After all, he is just an elemental, a powerful elemental. He is a force of nature, while the power of the Brand (and the God Hand) comes from another source, much more dark and deep. But, since we are talking about astral affairs, everything is plausible.

Speaking of that, I am beginning to be interested in the opinion of such an elder creature about the current status of Berserk's world. What does he think about the growing role of humanity within the natural order?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Red Dingo on July 03, 2014, 07:12:41 PM
I'm pretty sure that whatever the God Hand has in mind for humanity is a lot worse than having to fend off trolls and goblins. Like Walter said, humans could always learn to live in that new world, rediscovering the old ways (including magic) and allying with benevolent astral creatures to protect themselves from the dangerous ones.

How convenient for Griffith that his band just eliminated the oldest individual who could have taught humans how to get along in this changed world without relying on Falconia. I wonder how Enoch village is getting along?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on July 04, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
How convenient for Griffith that his band just eliminated the oldest individual who could have taught humans how to get along in this changed world without relying on Falconia.

Being a known associate of the Skull Knight certainly didn't work in her favor.

I wonder how Enoch village is getting along?

So do I. They were already used to being assaulted by astral pests before the advent of Fantasia, and thanks to Schierke they somewhat renewed their ties with the Lady of the Depths. I have a feeling they weren't the worst off when the world was changed.
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Red Dingo on July 09, 2014, 12:44:29 PM
Being a known associate of the Skull Knight certainly didn't work in her favor.

No but then again, the God Hand really seems to range from apathetic to mildly amused when it comes to the Skull Knight and Guts' resistance. I think Flora would have done far more damage to their plans by teaching other humans about the old ways. Hopefully, Schierke and Farnese can take up that role. It certainly would be deliciously ironic to see Farnese go from a faux lady of war inquisitor to a  peaceful witch who promotes a new movement of magic users.

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So do I. They were already used to being assaulted by astral pests before the advent of Fantasia, and thanks to Schierke they somewhat renewed their ties with the Lady of the Depths. I have a feeling they weren't the worst off when the world was changed.

Yeah...until Griffith has them slaughtered by Apostles so they don't spread the word about how to get along with Fantasia with other humans. You know, wiping out any competition Falconia might have on monopolizing human lives?
Title: Re: Episode 335
Post by: Aazealh on July 09, 2014, 01:05:23 PM
No but then again, the God Hand really seems to range from apathetic to mildly amused when it comes to the Skull Knight and Guts' resistance. I think Flora would have done far more damage to their plans by teaching other humans about the old ways. Hopefully, Schierke and Farnese can take up that role. It certainly would be deliciously ironic to see Farnese go from a faux lady of war inquisitor to a  peaceful witch who promotes a new movement of magic users.

Well you have to keep in mind that Flora was really just about to die anyway, so that sending apostles after her wasn't actually necessary at all. Besides, it seems most people had stopped caring about what she had to say a long time ago. But yeah, spreading that kind of knowledge could definitely be a threat to the Falconian way of life.

Yeah...until Griffith has them slaughtered by Apostles so they don't spread the word about how to get along with Fantasia with other humans. You know, wiping out any competition Falconia might have on monopolizing human lives?

Maybe? Who knows. I'm not sure that's significant enough to register on his radar, if you know what I mean.