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Title: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on December 21, 2015, 10:02:27 AM
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-21/berserk-gets-new-anime-project-featuring-guts-as-black-swordsman/.96773

Has lots of info.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: VengeanceQuest982 on December 21, 2015, 11:28:37 AM
...Not gonna take any statement seriously that begins with an adaptation that honors the books after that Clip show nightmare. I'll take it seriously once we know the following : Animation Studio , VA (JPN & ENG) , Composer ,  format of adaptation , and Show/Film Length. You succeed in all these and you might have produced the 2nd best Tv/Film adaptation of Berserk.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on December 21, 2015, 11:38:22 AM
Pretty sure the anime Studio will stay the same. Wouldn't make sense otherwise, especially because of the licensing matters and such.

Besides that i don't have high hopes for this at all, especially if this really will be done by Studio 4 C.

Edit: Just saw this on Twitter. Welp this definetely is an artwork done by Studio 4 C. And he is not even wearing the same armor from the black swordsman arc, meaning that they will probably skip it, what surprise  :troll:

(http://i2.wp.com/otakomu.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/wg-1.jpg?fit=1536%2C1071)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: IcePuck on December 21, 2015, 11:51:11 AM
Cool, can't wait for the teaser. After waiting so long since the original anime, and only being able to remark tell me why about the movie trilogy, it's great to see Berserk resume in animated format. It can only get better!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 21, 2015, 11:58:07 AM
The two notable things are that we don't know the format yet, and that NBC Universal is now producing instead of WB. Man I'd really love to have a behind the scenes look at everything that went down with this adaptation.

Edit: Just saw this on Twitter. Welp this definetely is an artwork done by Studio 4 C. And he is not even the same armor from the black swordsman arc, meaning that they will probably skip it, what surprise  :troll:

This is a scene from the Lost Children chapter, when Guts sleeps in the dilapidated windmill. Not surprising to be honest.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on December 21, 2015, 12:27:02 PM
Official Website: http://berserk-anime.com/
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on December 21, 2015, 12:36:54 PM
Full visual without the text.
(http://i.imgur.com/2Z4FXFT.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on December 21, 2015, 12:59:43 PM
So, Lost Children, eh? That's pretty cool, and I guess it doesn't make sense to adapt The Black Swordsman arc after having entirely skipped it and it's exposition. So, can we look forward to a new fabricated meeting between Guts and Puck? I think that would be weird given that his main adversary is fairy-like. They could still do the bar scene, I guess. It just wouldn't be in Koka.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 21, 2015, 01:03:42 PM
So, Lost Children, eh? That's pretty cool, and I guess it doesn't make sense to adapt The Black Swordsman arc after having entirely skipped it and it's exposition. So, can we look forward to a new fabricated meeting between Guts and Puck? I think that would be weird given that his main adversary is fairy-like. They could still do the bar scene, I guess. It just wouldn't be in Koka.

Well done, now I'm already depressed. :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: luizao on December 21, 2015, 01:13:29 PM
Will this affect the manga monthly releases until summer? In that case I'm depressed too.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 21, 2015, 01:17:27 PM
Sure, why not. Hard to get excited about this with Studio4C still a likely candidate for the brains of the operation. Though, I wonder, given that NBC  Universal is distributing...

Will this affect the manga monthly releases until summer? In that case I'm depressed too.

I doubt that's the reason for the hiatus. While Miura was involved as script overseer for the 1997 anime, his involvement in the 2012 movies was negligible to nonexistent.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: mazinken on December 21, 2015, 01:24:26 PM
Sad to say that I am excited for other anime's coming in 2016.

Watching the previous 4C movies gave me good idea on how they will continue butchering the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on December 21, 2015, 01:50:04 PM
My initial gut reaction was pretty excited to at least see Black Swordsman Guts running around in one of my favourite chapters. But without the Black Swordsman arc we have a lot of plot points that need to be squashed and fitted into what was already a tightly packed, neat story. Obviously things like Guts acquiring a Beherit are easy to work in, but assuming we're not starting back at Godot's mine the incident with the demon fetus and Guts acquiring his gear will need to be shown in another one of those stylised "flashback" sequences, which frankly would be a disservice to the moment. This also means Godot as a character will not have been introduced, meaning Guts's return to the cabin and chastisement for leaving Casca will be redone.

Black Swordsman may not have been the best written arc but i love it for the comparison we get when we finish the Golden Age and go back into Lost Children.  The way Guts treated puck when he first met him compared to after he had survived the count and the Godhand is just that little bit softer. And the fact that Jill emerges out the end of the story stronger than she was before stands out so much brighter compared to what we had seen happen to Collette and Theresia (also no crying guts  :sad:). I mean of course you can still just show Guts easing up to puck throughout this movie a little faster than usual, and the end is emotional regardless of whether or not there was any "predecessor", but it just makes those soft moments a little less soft. because its the first time seeing it all.

I hope i'm not being way too negative, i'm always happy to see new Berserk, especially something that brings new blood into the fandom. Although the return to irregular schedule has dampened the parade even more.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 21, 2015, 03:36:46 PM
Though it sure looks like Lost Children, it's entirely possible this new animation will also encompass the Black Swordsman arc. Afterall, if they can graft Guts' Vol-17-era pauldrons onto a Lost Children-era Guts, they can surely work in the Count's story arc somewhere too  :griffnotevil:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on December 21, 2015, 03:54:14 PM
The only thing I have to say about this is at least they went back to the original design for the scar on his nose.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on December 21, 2015, 03:55:27 PM
Well, I am excited!!!  The only bad news about this is the manga hiatus.  I know the general consensus here is death to Studio 4C, but who knows, maybe this time they will stay truer to the source material for the Lost Children arc, especially if it's a longer format (crossing fingers for OVA).  It's been many years since the trilogy, so the team, animation style, and director might very well be different.  So as of right now, I'm excited to see what's to unfold in the next few weeks.

This brings me back to the excitement the first time around when the Anime Saga was announced.  It was around the holidays as well.  GOOD TIMES!

And finally, if all goes well, this means we might get a new Berserk Hirasawa song down the line.  JUST SAYING!  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tama on December 21, 2015, 04:13:12 PM
Really interesting, I assumed that the previous three Berserk movies didn't do well enough to warrant more anime, so I'm curious to see what format this will take. Also, isn't Guts wearing some incorrect gear in that picture? I could be wrong though. With Miura taking a break shortly, I am even more excited to see where the story leaves off this coming issue.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 21, 2015, 04:21:06 PM
Black Swordsman may not have been the best written arc but i love it for the comparison we get when we finish the Golden Age and go back into Lost Children.

I think it's pretty damn well written, actually.

Also, isn't Guts wearing some incorrect gear in that picture?

Indeed he is, as Mangetsu and Walter mentioned. Just continuing the trend from the movies.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on December 21, 2015, 04:26:54 PM
I smell a podcast at some point here...

I'm curious to see what direction they'll take for that one. I hope indeed that we see Guts getting is black swordsman gear and I would like it to see the count. I guess we can start by waiting for the teaser trailer or whatever they're gonna show at that convention.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Bender on December 21, 2015, 04:51:27 PM
Just continuing the trend from the movies.

If that is the scene from volume 14 in the old wind mill, there are so many little things wrong with it.  It's the movies all over again.   :schierke:

I guess there is always hope, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 21, 2015, 04:52:42 PM
If that is the scene from volume 14 in the old wind mill, there are so many little things wrong with it.  It's the movies all over again.   :schierke:

We didn't need the Bonfire of Dreams or the Queen's assassination. Do we really need Godot?  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Griffith on December 21, 2015, 05:38:57 PM
As others have said, I wouldn't read too much into this image as to the direction of the adaptation; they might have just decided on this as his iconic "Black Swordsman" uniform for the duration, though it's worth noting at the end of the third movie he's wearing something more resembling his initial Black Swordsman gear.

Anyway, here's hoping they don't skip the original BS arc. If they're sticking to the film format and want to do something reasonable and fitting the mold of the previous trilogy they should do another one of Black Swordsman, Lost Children, and Conviction, ending with the incarnation ceremony this time. Of course, who knows, but otherwise I sure wouldn't mind them doing things as drastically different as possible from their previous effort. It could be a TV show or OVA attempting to span far more territory or a just one film focused on one part (I agree with DK on an OVA, I think it has the best potential to do something worthwhile).

We'll see, but I must say, as I complained recently, at least they're animating parts of the story that weren't done previously, so I'm excited on that count at least, and even though I certainly didn't like the new anime movies, at least this venture hasn't ended on that sour note as a complete crash and burn and something more, and hopefully better, will come of it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on December 21, 2015, 06:33:39 PM
Wonder what what the format for the new anime will be? TV series, OVAs, or movies again? Like others have mentioned I think OVA might have the potential to be the best fit. And like Walter said while the the current promo image seems to imply beginning with the Lost Children chapter, hopefully there is still a possibility of the Black Swordsman arc being adapted as well. Anyways, even if the story adaption quality is on a similar level of abridgement as the movies were, there should hopefully be some nice animation to look forward to at least. Also, in regards to the new Blu-ray release of the 1997, is the only difference (that we know of currently) from the 2012 Bu-ray release going to be the manufacturer's suggested retail price?
Also as DirectDK said hopefully this means a new Susumu Hirasawa Berserk song down the line as well.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Quiller on December 21, 2015, 07:50:36 PM
Well, I was excited for a second.
Then I remembered everything that was missing in the movies.
Is it even possible to salvage the berserk movies with OVA's?

And if we are dealing with a lesser version of the original, can it at least be consistent story-wise without forcing things to work? (like changing where Guts meets Puck?) If this new (potential) Berserk movie becomes popular enough, then they may try to release OVA's to cover some of the more important chapters omitted in the the Golden Age Arc trilogy. (on the other hand, scenes like the Bondfire of Dreams are probably lost forever)

But, despite recognizing all the omissions, I am still kinda excited to see an animated version of this arc. Decent animation could make it good popcorn material. (maybe with the success of the trilogy, they can have less CGI)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on December 21, 2015, 08:09:07 PM
Also as DirectDK said hopefully this means a new Susumu Hirasawa Berserk song down the line as well.

I wonder if we,re gonna have the same one as the last trilogy. There was after all scenes post-eclipse in the little clip in the movie titles. I'd find it cool if we get a new one by Hirasawa.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 21, 2015, 08:20:04 PM
If it's the work of Studio4C, why did they kept the secret for so long ?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 21, 2015, 08:26:12 PM
If it's the work of Studio4C, why did they kept the secret for so long ?

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Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on December 21, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
If it's the work of Studio4C, why did they kept the secret for so long ?

It wasn't secret they told us that it'll continue at the end of the credits.   :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on December 21, 2015, 08:28:48 PM
Yeah it really is just the perfect time to tell the fans now. Besides that we will be getting a new Volume soon, on which there will be definetely commercials for the anime too.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 21, 2015, 08:31:04 PM
Besides that we will be getting a new Volume soon, on which there will be definetely commercials for the anime too.

Yep, this is how the previous anime was announced as well: Coinciding with a volume release.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 21, 2015, 08:37:17 PM
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That's what I thought first but I'm not convinced. I mean the 3 first movies were a little disappointing, so I don't think that's a good strategy to keep the secret. I mean you keep the secret when it's something huge with a lot of success. Yes, a lot of us were waiting for a new anime adaptation, but not necessarily by Studio4C...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: luizao on December 21, 2015, 08:55:29 PM
If I'm not mistaken last volumes had meant the trilogy and the new project, at this pace Berserk will become the new Game of Thrones we'll see the end before on the screen than on paper  :ganishka:

Edit: spelling
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 21, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
That's what I thought first but I'm not convinced. I mean the 3 first movies were a little disappointing, so I don't think that's a good strategy to keep the secret. I mean you keep the secret when it's something huge with a lot of success. Yes, a lot of us were waiting for a new anime adaptation, but not necessarily by Studio4C...

You clearly don't work in marketing. Announcing a product years before you have any material to share isn't exactly a good strategy. There is literally no advantage in doing so. And contrary to what you're saying, if the previous movies sucked then letting some time pass before announcing another one would be the logical course of action so as to distance yourself from them and let them fade a bit from people's minds. Then there's the fact many things could have happened to delay production or even cancel the project that could explain why they didn't want to commit too early. And finally, like Jackson Hurley mentioned, a sequel had already been implied at the end of the third movie anyway.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 21, 2015, 09:45:37 PM
No I don't, and of course years is too much I never said that. And I never said that the movies sucked, I like them, they are just a little disappointing from a general point of view. But at first they were supposed to cover the entire serie if I remember correctly, but after the third movie no news at all... For me they just abandoned the idea. If as you said they had no materials and were thinking their movies sucked, why would they work 2 years on another one ?
And a sequel had also been implied at the end of the first anime (and in a lot of other movies without sequels), it means nothing, it's just an open ending.

And I'm just here to discuss about it and hear your opinions while giving mine, no need to tell me that I know nothing of marketing otherwise I wouldn't talk at all because I know nothing of film making... I'm simply asking why because it didn't seem the best to me and I wanted to know if there was better alternatives.

I'm just saying that if they are not coming with something big, it will be a failed attempt, in brief it's risky from Studio4C to try things like that. In my opinion.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 21, 2015, 11:39:43 PM
No I don't, and of course years is too much I never said that. And I never said that the movies sucked, I like them, they are just a little disappointing from a general point of view. But at first they were supposed to cover the entire serie if I remember correctly, but after the third movie no news at all... For me they just abandoned the idea. If as you said they had no materials and were thinking their movies sucked, why would they work 2 years on another one ?

I see we've got some comprehension problem. I said the movies sucked and I don't like them. You said they were "disappointing" and implied that they didn't have a lot of success. I'm sorry you felt I didn't convey the important nuance of your opinion properly in my response. I hope you can forgive me for this grave offense against your character. Also, by all means please do enlighten me as to how long ago they should have notified you of their plans for it to be satisfactory. I'm really curious to know what metrics factor into that. Finally, when I said they had "no material to share" I meant they had nothing to show people, because they hadn't worked on it yet. And we don't know how long they've been working on it, actually. That two years figure you're quoting has no basis in fact.

And a sequel had also been implied at the end of the first anime (and in a lot of other movies without sequels), it means nothing, it's just an open ending.

No actually, no sequel had been implied at the end of the TV series. The epilogue just bridged the end to the beginning. So please don't make empty statements of the sort. Furthermore, the movie crew had clearly established the possibility of a sequel in interviews and other promotional material. You said it yourself. Really, this isn't something that needs debating.

And I'm just here to discuss about it and hear your opinions while giving mine, no need to tell me that I know nothing of marketing otherwise I wouldn't talk at all because I know nothing of film making... I'm simply asking why because it didn't seem the best to me and I wanted to know if there was better alternatives.

What you said made little sense in my opinion, hence my reply. I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings, but that's how it is anyway.

I'm just saying that if they are not coming with something big, it will be a failed attempt, in brief it's risky from Studio4C to try things like that. In my opinion.

The previous movies are failures because their quality is abysmal, not because of a lack of promotional blitz. And, again, I don't see how they've taken any risk at all so far.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 22, 2015, 10:05:36 AM
I get the feeling that I have upset you, maybe not, but in any case it wasn't my intention, sorry.

And we don't know how long they've been working on it, actually. That two years figure you're quoting has no basis in fact.
True.

No actually, no sequel had been implied at the end of the TV series. The epilogue just bridged the end to the beginning. So please don't make empty statements of the sort.
Guilty, I had forgotten.

And, again, I don't see how they've taken any risk at all so far.
Thinking about it, in fact I got a bit lost and I talked too fast. As long as there is no release date announced my point doesn't really makes sense you're right. My apologies, I was a little confused.
I don't know why but I was convinced that the release would be imminent and I suppose Studio4C wants to aim the largest audience as possible and not only the manga's fans. There is no release date at the moment so forget what I said earlier, I'll keep my mouth shut until we have more info.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 22, 2015, 10:19:45 AM
I get the feeling that I have upset you, maybe not, but in any case it wasn't my intention, sorry.

Nah it's Ok, but like you said I think you rushed to conclusion a bit. No big deal, and we'll have more information soon enough anyway.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tama on December 22, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
If this is a continuation of the Golden Age movies as it seems to be and not it's own stand alone film or OVA, one character I'm going to miss that they seem to have cut out is Godot. He isn't included in the new anime and I'm not even sure if he was mentioned, but it is a shame because of his insightful speeches (reminding me from the current re-read podcast everyone did). It makes me wonder, is Erika suppose to be living alone up in the mountains? Anyway, I know there are larger issues at hand with what studio 4C cut out but I'd like to think they fix this and start fresh.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Skullgrin140 on December 22, 2015, 02:46:09 PM
I really want to feel some level of excitement for this, however after the Golden Age Arc trilogy kind of pissed away some potential of retelling the story in animated form for a new audience I feel as though this might fall in the same category. Having heard this news I've been thinking alot recently to how everyone who was let down by the ending of the original anime from the 90's, wanting to know what happened next to be answered and resolved with a "Season 2". This is hardly anything but that since the art style and the studios are radically different now, I'm intrigued however if this does end up being something we have waited for, for quite some time. So I think we'll see, that's my only reaction this at this point. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 22, 2015, 06:31:36 PM
If this is a continuation of the Golden Age movies as it seems to be and not it's own stand alone film or OVA, one character I'm going to miss that they seem to have cut out is Godot. He isn't included in the new anime and I'm not even sure if he was mentioned, but it is a shame because of his insightful speeches (reminding me from the current re-read podcast everyone did). It makes me wonder, is Erika suppose to be living alone up in the mountains? Anyway, I know there are larger issues at hand with what studio 4C cut out but I'd like to think they fix this and start fresh.
I agree with you, I really think he's a very important character who takes an important place in Guts' journey. Plus, as Delta Phi said earlier I'm also worried about Puck, if they skip the Black Swordsman how will be their encounter ?
I hope that we will find reassuring answers for christmas!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 22, 2015, 08:41:14 PM
Plus, as Delta Phi said earlier I'm also worried about Puck, if they skip the Black Swordsman how will be their encounter ?
I hope that we will find reassuring answers for christmas!

Puck has to make it in. Omitting him would be a gaping hole they couldn't recover from.

As to how they'll meet, the opening scene could be done like how the 1997 anime opened, only instead of Colette being transposed in place of Puck, they'd show the actual scene as intended.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 22, 2015, 09:39:36 PM
Puck has to make it in. Omitting him would be a gaping hole they couldn't recover from.

As to how they'll meet, the opening scene could be done like how the 1997 anime opened, only instead of Colette being transposed in place of Puck, they'd show the actual scene as intended.

Yes exactly, they can't keep him out. So if they do that, great, but if afterwards they skip the Black Swordsman arc, sadly it would still be frustrating. :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sammoniac on December 23, 2015, 09:55:50 AM
Puck has to make it in. Omitting him would be a gaping hole they couldn't recover from.

As to how they'll meet, the opening scene could be done like how the 1997 anime opened, only instead of Colette being transposed in place of Puck, they'd show the actual scene as intended.

I wouldn't be surprised that since the Lost Children arc deals a lot with "elves" *hum*, they just tack on a Puck and Guts meeting somewhere inside the story. It would have the level of suckage expected from these adaptations.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on December 23, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
I wouldn't be surprised that since the Lost Children arc deals a lot with "elves" *hum*, they just tack on a Puck and Guts meeting somewhere inside the story. It would have the level of suckage expected from these adaptations.

Or they could easily put quickly the Black swordsman arc at the beginning for the meeting and then go to the lost children chapter since they skip the beginning in the first place anyway. (I wouldn't put my money on that though)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on December 24, 2015, 02:52:22 PM
(http://cdn2.natalie.mu/media/comic/1512/1225/extra/news_header_berserk_anime.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 24, 2015, 06:07:37 PM
It's quite disconcerting that there's still no hint of Puck in these promos.

Not sure what to make of this one, in terms of how this art style will translate into animation. It's certainly different from how Studio4C marketed the movies when the saga project was first announced. Still too little information to deduce much on that front though.
 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rhombaad on December 24, 2015, 06:26:00 PM
It's quite disconcerting that there's still no hint of Puck in these promos.

I agree. The fact that he's still not wearing his original Black Swordsman armor is also disconcerting, especially if this is going to be an adaptation of the Lost Children chapter. As was said on the latest podcast episode, these details are important, and they were an early indication that the last project wasn't going to turn out well. I'll remain skeptical of this one until we see something of quality.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 24, 2015, 10:30:46 PM
It's quite disconcerting that there's still no hint of Puck in these promos.

I agree. The fact that he's still not wearing his original Black Swordsman armor is also disconcerting, especially if this is going to be an adaptation of the Lost Children chapter. As was said on the latest podcast episode, these details are important, and they were an early indication that the last project wasn't going to turn out well. I'll remain skeptical of this one until we see something of quality.

I didn't listen to the last podcast but I agree with both of you. If Puck doesn't make it, they are definitely shooting themself in the foot... (and in my heart :judo:)
In few hours we'll have more info, so let's hope it will chase away our concern.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on December 25, 2015, 06:58:19 AM
The official twitter account started tweeting some information. https://twitter.com/berserk_anime
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 25, 2015, 09:29:47 AM
The official twitter account started tweeting some information. https://twitter.com/berserk_anime

For the impatient who can't wait for a better translation like me, here is the one from Google :

Thank you for waiting! Finally, is the animation "Berserk" official twitter open! And, the official teaser site is also open! http://berserk-anime.com/
Future, so will continue to publish a variety of information, stay tuned! #berserk

Today (12/25) so we have listed Young Animal information about the animation "Berserk" to be released is, Please check it out! #berserk

Comiket information ①
["Sacrifice of stigma" Tattoo distribution]
During C89 period, at the NBC Universal booth (No.451), Comiket limited "sacrifice of stigma" tattoo (of arrival) and post card calendar and a set that the decision to distribute the January-March! Sacrifice reaches a "certain number" and .... Look forward to! #berserk

Comiket information ②
[Teaser PV published! ]
Also at the NBC Universal booth (NO.451), we will publish a teaser PV that arrived from production site! Do not miss it! ! #berserk


Sorry I know this is Google quality but for once it's understandable, otherwise I wouldn't share it here.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Menosgade on December 25, 2015, 12:53:51 PM
 As the promo points out, it seems they'll adapt the Lost Children, I believe (and hope a lot) they won't stop in Conviction arc. Hoping as well they don't skip the black swordsman, it was a very interesting arc to read, but Guts on Berserk armor is something I really really really want to see animated.

 They have the potential to make all these arcs, and if they do it right it's certain to make success, there's no point in wrecking up the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 25, 2015, 01:56:12 PM
As the promo points out, it seems they'll adapt the Lost Children, I believe

Sorry, where are you picking that up from? The image they released a few days ago?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Menosgade on December 25, 2015, 03:21:48 PM
Sorry, where are you picking that up from? The image they released a few days ago?

 Yes, as it seems to be him resting in the windmill. I'm not saying what it is or isn't. As some, or most, people arround here I believe it is, even tho that wouldn't be the proper armor.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 25, 2015, 04:44:23 PM
Yes, as it seems to be him resting in the windmill. I'm not saying what it is or isn't. As some, or most, people arround here I believe it is, even tho that wouldn't be the proper armor.

I understand, I was just confused by your wording since you sounded pretty sure of it. Didn't know if there was some new promo.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tabris on December 26, 2015, 12:25:13 AM
I really, really wish I could be more excited about this.

While I've watched the original trilogy so many damn times and have been very successful in using them to get almost anybody I know at least interested in the series they frustrate me so much. Obviously I don't need to get into why, but the fact that I have to pause the movie and explain things to my friends so they can understand the story better is just absurd.

I can have my hopes that they animate the first few books as with Lost Children and eventually onto the rest of the Conviction I can't help but feel as though they'll just keep cutting and cutting. It's insane to me since the series is written in a way that it could go straight into animation.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Inga-no-Nagare on December 26, 2015, 01:34:34 PM
I really, really wish I could be more excited about this.

While I've watched the original trilogy so many damn times and have been very successful in using them to get almost anybody I know at least interested in the series they frustrate me so much. Obviously I don't need to get into why, but the fact that I have to pause the movie and explain things to my friends so they can understand the story better is just absurd.

I can have my hopes that they animate the first few books as with Lost Children and eventually onto the rest of the Conviction I can't help but feel as though they'll just keep cutting and cutting. It's insane to me since the series is written in a way that it could go straight into animation.

I've introduced the 1997 anime series to four of my friends these last six months, and they all loved it. I did elaborate on some things throughout; especially the ending.  :troll: I think it's better to show newcomers the old anime series rather than the movies. In spite of its shortcomings, it's far closer to the source material. Not to mention it *feels* far better aesthetically, with respect to the character design (the faces in the movies look way off), voices (at least, the Japanese original voices are better in the series, especially Griffith's voice) and music (While I was quite impressed with the first movie's soundtrack, the second OST was just okay and the third one fit so badly that it ruined several scenes. On the other hand, even in 2015, Susumu Hirasawa's utterly retro soundtrack sounds freshly engaging.).

I think there's actually an okay chance they might do the Lost Children part well, in regards to to the tone and pace. As long as they don't omit stuff!

But the rest of the Conviction arc? It's so dark and complex that even in a best case scenario of the studio actually trying to be faithful to the source material, I really can't imagine them doing it justice.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: False on December 29, 2015, 01:14:59 AM
New tweet about it! (https://twitter.com/berserk_anime/status/681650829665828864) Not sure if this deserves another thread or not, 'cause I can't translate it. Image/preview just kinda looks strange imo.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Quiller on December 29, 2015, 02:01:39 AM
Oh man, this preview picture looks bad. It may be test footage, but it looks completely CGI. (and not even partially hand-draw)
(I don't have a trained eye for recognizing CGI, so please correct me if I am wrong.)
Having a completely CGI movie would make it look more consistent, but I doubt that the animation will flow nicely.
Hope the trailer will prove me otherwise.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 29, 2015, 02:16:00 AM
The tweet mentions "Kuro," is that a production company? So apparently not Studio 4C...? If so, that's progress, but this is indeed not a very flattering shot...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gummyskull on December 29, 2015, 02:26:07 AM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/24y7l88.jpg)

Wait...these graphics look familiar (http://33.media.tumblr.com/c5a0ed5c67e5996344b518cc20735911/tumblr_n9icmh6mce1tysz53o1_500.gif).  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 29, 2015, 02:39:14 AM
Looks like a single frame from a video. Or someone was just learning what Photoshop filters do...  :schierke:

We'll probably see more soon.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: False on December 29, 2015, 02:42:17 AM
With any luck that's a preview of the opening and... Ah screw it, certainly hoping the final result'll be better.  :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: JMP on December 29, 2015, 02:50:13 AM
...... :judo:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: RaffoBaffo on December 29, 2015, 03:55:23 AM
I fear it's gonna be a full CG movie, like Ajin.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tama on December 29, 2015, 04:07:09 AM
Oh no... :( I don't want to judge the style based on something that looks half finished or just a test image, but it's certainly not flattering like others have said. I'm in the camp that thought the only time the three films looked gorgeous were the wide angle landscapes and when they weren't using the 3D technology. I realize in this day and age that traditional hand drawn animation costs are expensive compared to computer graphic design, but I hope they at least put more effort into it this time around, regardless of which studio has the rights.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on December 29, 2015, 04:21:34 AM
If the preview image does indeed indicate a full CGI-production like Ajin: Demi-Human, could that then indicate Polygon Pictures is the production studio? They're the only Japanese 3DCG animation studio that almost exclusively does CGI works that I can think of off the top of my head.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mogen on December 29, 2015, 04:30:03 AM
Godhand, I really hope they don't make the new berserk project fully CGI,  :magni: it'll look like garbage.  :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Halcian on December 29, 2015, 04:58:33 AM
That image is on par with the old 90's Star Ship Troopers show that used to come on Cartoon Nework. :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sammoniac on December 29, 2015, 05:05:24 AM
We shouldn't start making assumptions after seeing a single picture. Its clearly a test image and doesn't reveal anything. Sure, Guts will have a 3D model for the fancier scenes, that's pretty much a given. But I'd realy be surprised if it was all CG. In fact, the only stuff that I'm sure this movie will nail are the visuals. If it wants to sell, it has to look good, no matter how crappy the movie will be.

And yeah, this KURO seems to be an animation studio, according to a sketchy Google translation. Its kind of a reflief.... I guess? I tried to search a bit on the net for more info on KURO but didn't really find any. Maybe its a new studio? Or maybe not a studio at all. Let's wait and see!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on December 29, 2015, 07:00:47 AM
I have a sinking feeling we're all about to prefer Studio 4C... If this is a promotional shot, I hate to see the parts that are rough around the edges.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: SamNeillium on December 29, 2015, 07:53:12 AM
Time to put my rose-tinted grasses on. :badbone:



...it's not working.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 29, 2015, 08:28:05 AM
Looks like a single frame from a video. Or someone was just learning what Photoshop filters do...  :schierke:

We'll probably see more soon.

Indeed it looks like an unfinished amateur work or like a cutscene from an old game, low resolution and outdated graphics. Waiting to see more too.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 29, 2015, 08:43:10 AM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/24y7l88.jpg)

Wait...these graphics look familiar (http://33.media.tumblr.com/c5a0ed5c67e5996344b518cc20735911/tumblr_n9icmh6mce1tysz53o1_500.gif).  :troll:

My first thought as well. Dreamcast-level graphics. A testament to the DC game's quality back in 1999, and to the ignominy of that's happening right now.

We shouldn't start making assumptions after seeing a single picture. Its clearly a test image and doesn't reveal anything. Sure, Guts will have a 3D model for the fancier scenes, that's pretty much a given. But I'd realy be surprised if it was all CG. In fact, the only stuff that I'm sure this movie will nail are the visuals. If it wants to sell, it has to look good, no matter how crappy the movie will be.

Dude, this is literally the third picture of the project they've decided to officially show to the world. And it's a close-up shot of the main character's face. Now if THAT looks like shit, then I'm sorry to say but it's a pretty good indication that the visuals are not being nailed.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jerkins on December 29, 2015, 08:47:24 AM
I think this goes without saying but I'd rather this adaptation not happen right now and just have the manga continue as monthly. Especially if it's gonna look like what we've seen.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: thedigitalsin on December 29, 2015, 09:42:00 AM
Trailer here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6izvgutkZs) - recording from a phone

Seem to be mimicking Studio 4C, where it's a mixture of CGI models for some shots, and hand drawn for others? 

(http://i.imgur.com/R9hMEBa.png)

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jerkins on December 29, 2015, 09:53:49 AM
Trailer here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6izvgutkZs) - recording from a phone

Seem to be mimicking Studio 4C, where it's a mixture of CGI models for some shots, and hand drawn for others? 

(http://i.imgur.com/R9hMEBa.png)

Guys, I think it's time we remember that famous line
(http://i.imgur.com/knhFMu4.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 29, 2015, 10:15:55 AM
Official HD version of the teaser :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIA9xg2oIew
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 29, 2015, 10:26:46 AM
Official HD version of the teaser :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIA9xg2oIew

Strange choice of visuals, what with the alternate use of pure 3D and 3D with 2D. Like thedigitalsin said it's similar to Studio 4C's style... Anyway, with that quality I can't imagine this will be another film.

Also, that's inspired by a scene from the Black Swordsman arc. So are they animating it or is it just for the teaser? He's still wearing the wrong armor... Still, at least the scene is cool.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 29, 2015, 10:51:42 AM
Also, that's inspired by a scene from the Black Swordsman arc. So are they animating it or is it just for the teaser? He's still wearing the wrong armor... Still, at least the scene is cool.

Yes it seems to be the Black Swordsman arc, I hope that if they are showing this they will animate it but that wouldn't surprise me if they don't... As you said he's still wearing the wrong armor and in addition he's using the Dragonslayer so we're probably not going to see Godo...

Maybe the scene is cool but in my opinion the animation doesn't look fluid at all so I have trouble enjoying it...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 29, 2015, 10:57:14 AM
As you said he's still wearing the wrong armor and in addition he's using the Dragonslayer so we're probably not going to see Godo...

I don't think we can infer anything regarding Godot from this short teaser.

Maybe the scene is cool but in my opinion the animation doesn't look fluid at all so I have trouble enjoying it...

Yeah, it's most jarring when he walks towards the screen, his body's just so stiff.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 29, 2015, 11:36:37 AM
I don't think we can infer anything regarding Godot from this short teaser.

Ahah sorry I just realized my mistake and why I said that...  I got a little confused with the chronological order so forget it, I'm ashamed. :magni:
But the fact that he's wearing the wrong armor remains a bad omen.

Yeah, it's most jarring when he walks towards the screen, his body's just so stiff.

Yes, this scene is the one that bothered me the most too.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on December 29, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
Humm, not sure what I've just seen, not sure if I like it at all. I was some what okay with what Studio 4c did at some point but that? I Guess 'll wait to see more before judging since it's a quick teaser but I don't know.

The music bugged me a bit and that animation...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Inga-no-Nagare on December 29, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
Visuals: Guts' walking looks jarred like hell. Well, at least the face looks (I think) less ugly than it did throughout the 4C trilogy..

Audio: While I don't like the heavy metal, I kinda like the first half of the music/audio and the way it cuts off in the end. Sounds very industrial-like. In any case, if whoever was charge of the music for the teaser is in charge of the music for the anime, then it'll apparently take a complete new direction, unlike Susumu Hirasawa and Shiro Sagisu's stuff.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Skullgrin140 on December 29, 2015, 01:00:48 PM
Having seen the trailer I am still on the fence about this, I want to like this but I feel some elements of it may be a huge let down for several reasons. Any idea who is doing the animation for this season this time around because it has a sharper quality compared to how Studio 4C watered down a little bit with the original trilogy.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Quiller on December 29, 2015, 01:44:23 PM
- weird looking crow
- like the pool of blood /bones.
- absolutely horrible walking animation.
- surprisingly, the zoom-in of the promo picture was not terrible. (not good, but not atrocious)
- the "wrap around" camera motion was cool.
- skeleton attack: meh.
- finally, something hand-drawn. (Guts face)
- really like the camera following the Dragonslayer.
- For the first time, I feel some weight behind each swing.
- Personally, the music feels fitting. (although, I would not want it permeating throughout the show)

Overall, this probably does not bode well. CGI/10
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hanma_Baki on December 29, 2015, 02:32:30 PM
Well that certainly didn't look as terrible as I tought it would (walking shot had me cringing though, heres hoping it was just a last minute thing for the teaser)

Music kinda ruined it a little bit for me though, makes it seem a bit too cheesy and over-the-top, gonna watch it on mute or something else in the background later on and see how that stacks up...

The crazy thing about it though, at this point, I really don't care about these flaws as long as they adapt the story faithfully. And as you might imagine, I'll remain cautious about getting my hopes up about that... The armor thing really fuckin bothers me  :sad:

Oh and I know this doesn't make sense but I actually want his face to look more like it does in the first three volumes. The way it looks in the teaser it's just too clean and too... "normal" or w/e. He should look a lot more wornout, hell, at the very least, is a bit of bags under the eyes really so hard to animate?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 29, 2015, 02:50:25 PM
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/ds-swing.png)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 29, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
Yeah I saw it too Walter :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Skullgrin140 on December 29, 2015, 04:04:38 PM
That's one wobbly looking Dragon Slayer :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on December 29, 2015, 04:14:24 PM
Well that's pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rhombaad on December 29, 2015, 04:36:41 PM
I have a bad feeling about this...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on December 29, 2015, 04:54:30 PM
My expectations were so low that i wasn't really disappointed by this. I didn't expect any better from them. Some stuff looked cool though. When it comes to CG i actually would have even prefered the CG from the pachinko games which looked pretty awsome to me.

And it also seems as if the format indeed will change, the teaser is somewhat all over the place showing scenes from the black swordsman arc and also the aftermath of the eclipse from the Lost Children chapter, so they probably will just continue chronologically from the place they left of in the last movie. I guess thats from where the clunky scene of guts walking towards the screen comes  :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Natt_Himmel on December 29, 2015, 05:16:00 PM
Well, I didn't have high expectations so I am generally pleased with the Teaser, But damn that Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Dragonslayer Tho.  :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Saephon on December 29, 2015, 05:58:30 PM
There's one second in the video, around the 0:33 mark, where you see Guts' face in a hand drawn style. It looks good, and for one fleeting moment, my soul feels alive... Aaaaaaand it's gone.


I don't know, guys. I understand the argument that reusable CG models make production much cheaper, but with how gorgeous modern anime is becoming, I feel like this shit is inexcusable. I would rather watch the original 90's anime series than another CG Berserk.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on December 29, 2015, 05:59:56 PM
There's one second in the video, around the 0:33 mark, where you see Guts' face in a hand drawn style. It looks good, and for one fleeting moment, my soul feels alive... Aaaaaaand it's gone.

This moment? (http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--EKgstwsO--/zhffsdzeojgzztkt3esn.gif)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tama on December 29, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
I feel like the art direction is a slight step up from the previous three movies and other then Guts looking very robotic in the walking scene, the rest seem animated more smoothly. I also don't mind the heavy metal music, it's nothing as unique as Hirasawa's work but I found it more fitting then most of the stock musical notes we got from Golden Age films. I still have my doubts, but I'm more curious right now for the nature of this and if it will be an OVA or another theater release.

Also like you've mentioned Walter, even with the teaser trailer we still have not been shown anything related to Puck. Maybe I'm just jumping the gun, but would they really cut him out of this? I don't want to put it past them, but they did show him when Studio 4C was working on it.  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Lithrael on December 29, 2015, 06:38:48 PM
Wellp.  Looks like the 2004 PS2 game will continue to be my favorite Berserk animation for a while yet.

It reminds me of the first episode of the Hellsing Ultimate OVA where you'd get scenes where everything was just animated all to fuck to the point where you'd lose the thread of what was actually supposed to be going on. 

The wobbly DS, though, is a completely normal animation technique like your old fashioned squash and stretch.  It's done so that a quick one two or three frame glimpse doesn't just strobe.  It's basically an alternative to a motion blur. 

The surfacing look they've gone for is baffling.  It looks like something from a Playstation pre-rendered cutscene.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: JackVision on December 29, 2015, 06:45:31 PM
             I know im in a vary small group of anime fan here but the CGI really never bothered me. A lot of the times it can help portay scenes that a really great and large scale and also help to project action scenes to a faster high impact level as well. I really changed my mind when i was watching a show know as knight of sidonia and at first is was jarring but in comparison to the manga and the setting the CGI really hope to improve and portray soft environment and Empty space.

I hope this anime really works out in the long run. I love the golden age i really do but can we please get other stories from the manga.... Please. :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on December 29, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
This moment? (http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--EKgstwsO--/zhffsdzeojgzztkt3esn.gif)

Guts doesn't have the "running mouvement", it makes this shot weird, it looks like he's flying or sliding on something...
But there's something funnier, we can see he's going to swing his sword from above but then we see it coming from below! :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on December 29, 2015, 07:06:44 PM
looks terrible as expected.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Menosgade on December 29, 2015, 07:12:25 PM
This new anime is like a sword. A broken sword.

Nevertheless, it's core is made of a quality, supreme metal, wich will always when put on the fire, and we all call it Berserk.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on December 29, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
Maybe I've been desensitized but it looks a lot better than I was expecting. That walk is bad, but the rest is acceptable. The curved DS just seems like the animation style to me. I'm excited that we might be getting the Black Swordsman in here as well.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MrFlibble on December 29, 2015, 10:16:54 PM
Official HD version of the teaser :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIA9xg2oIew

 :magni:

That looks horrifying, it reminds me of that hell sequence from the South Park movie, but even that was animated better. I hold hope that somewhere in a parallel universe Madhouse created a decent series of Black Swordsman movies.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: False on December 29, 2015, 10:51:55 PM
(http://puu.sh/md29i/decffc61f3.png)

Is his mouth okay?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Saephon on December 29, 2015, 11:35:39 PM
I'm sorry but I just had to link this reaction video edited with JonTron:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDeWPp4-2lY

Only thing to make me smile regarding the trailer all day   :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on December 30, 2015, 12:08:29 AM
I have a bad feeling about this...

I share your sentiments here as well, man. The fact that it's gonna be a jarring hodgepodge of CGI/2-D animation is already a given. And the original scenes from the manga being cut out is safe bet as well. But to what extent will the damage be? That's what I'm wondering...


(http://puu.sh/md29i/decffc61f3.png)

Is his mouth okay?

Right before his fight scene in the new movie, Guts ate some cherries and washed them down with beet juice? That's why his mouth is so red all around  :ganishka:

But on a serious note, seeing poorly animated screenshots like these and many others begs a question - to what extent are the Berserk films actually animated by Studio 4C themselves and to what extend they get outsourced to third-party companies? How much of the key animation is done in-house by Studio 4C's own long-time veteran animators in Japan, and how much of it gets done by unpaid interns in some offshore studio in Philippines or Taiwan (some of favored outsourcing destinations for Japanese anime companies looking to slash their production costs) (http://variety.com/2012/digital/news/japanese-companies-outsourcing-anime-1118049388/)? 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gummyskull on December 30, 2015, 12:31:51 AM
 I watched this last night when it was just released. I'm disappointed but not surprised about the quality.  I started cringing once the music started, it's so unfitting. It's amusing how the character design is so inconsistent between the 2d and 3d animation.

At least the first promo image is nice to look at.

Anyway, I'm gonna sit back and watch the progress of this train wreck.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: asic on December 30, 2015, 03:51:05 AM
How much of the key animation is done in-house by Studio 4C's own long-time veteran animators in Japan, and how much of it gets done by unpaid interns in some offshore studio in Philippines or Taiwan (some of favored outsourcing destinations for Japanese anime companies looking to slash production costs) (http://variety.com/2012/digital/news/japanese-companies-outsourcing-anime-1118049388/)? 

It certainly looks that way. If that 3d animation is Studios 4C's own they really hit an all time low in terms of quality (and it was pretty damn low already). The rendering is what is making it look absolutely shit during the CGI shots, looks like almost none of the more advanced rendering/lighting methods were used even though those software's used are capable of doing so. Does this mean Studio 4C chose this style, worked on it in-house and think it looks good? Or are they outsourcing from dirt cheap companies which is exactly what Johnny Apples suggested. Outsourced or not it just shows how little respect is given to the brilliant artwork and story of the source material.

Hopefully they just created a quick teaser themselves or hired the outsourcing company to do the teaser while Studios 4C are working on the episodes. I doubt this to be true though  :sad: So not only will the story be horribly inaccurate it will also look like crap. Sadly I will still follow this closely and continue to have some sliver of false hope.

 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Halcian on December 30, 2015, 04:59:46 AM
All we can do is wait for either our hopes and dreams to be crushed or be pleasantly surprised once we get to see something more substantial. I'm just happy to see something new that's Berserk but at the same time we all know how much we adore this series and hold high expectations for new and future projects like this.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sammoniac on December 30, 2015, 04:59:49 AM
It sure looks a little stiff, but overall I think its way better than the previous style. It has a really gritty feel, I like that.

As for the music, I always thought that it was a bit ridiculous to associate Berserk with heavy metal, but for this trailer the industrial sound fits strangely well. I'm glad we were shown images from this scene. It seems like they might merge the Black Swordsman arc with the Lost Children arc.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Skullgrin140 on December 30, 2015, 12:21:43 PM
I'm sorry but I just had to link this reaction video edited with JonTron:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDeWPp4-2lY

Only thing to make me smile regarding the trailer all day   :ganishka:

Pretty much this, despite me willingly to give it a go this is my reaction right here.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ShiffuFirestorm on December 30, 2015, 06:25:24 PM
I'm hyped guys.

The 3D CGI looks... well not that good. But regardless, it's going to be The Black Swordsman Arc/Lost Children saga!!! (I assume) I have been waiting for over a decade! It's a teaser so I wouldn't take the animation so seriously. Keep in mind that the movies drastically improved from 1 > 2 > 3. The CGI in Descent was great IMO, and it was well paced. The first movie was crappy, because so much material was skipped.

You guys don't dig this?
(http://i.imgur.com/P0h8OSC.png)



Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Menosgade on December 30, 2015, 06:36:51 PM
I'm hyped guys.

The 3D CGI looks... well not that good. But regardless, it's going to be The Black Swordsman Arc/Lost Children saga!!! (I assume) I have been waiting for over a decade! It's a teaser so I wouldn't take the animation so seriously. Keep in mind that the movies drastically improved from 1 > 2 > 3. The CGI in Descent was great IMO, and it was well paced. The first movie was crappy, because so much material was skipped.

You guys don't dig this?


 One of the few things good in the teaser. The initial walking animation, close up on the face and curved Dragon Slayer are heart breaking.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on December 30, 2015, 06:55:35 PM
  The wobbly DS, though, is a completely normal animation technique like your old fashioned squash and stretch.  It's done so that a quick one two or three frame glimpse doesn't just strobe.  It's basically an alternative to a motion blur. 

Yeah, people can rightly complain about quality of the CGI animation all they want, but the frame of the curved Dragonslayer is just a standard analogous squash and stretch technique that almost all animation has used for creating flowing animated motion.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 30, 2015, 06:55:49 PM
it's going to be The Black Swordsman Arc/Lost Children saga!!!

Is it really? Or will it be a travesty, like the movies were for the Golden Age arc?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: SuperVegetto on December 30, 2015, 10:41:35 PM
I'm hyped guys.

The 3D CGI looks... well not that good. But regardless, it's going to be The Black Swordsman Arc/Lost Children saga!!! (I assume) I have been waiting for over a decade! It's a teaser so I wouldn't take the animation so seriously. Keep in mind that the movies drastically improved from 1 > 2 > 3. The CGI in Descent was great IMO, and it was well paced. The first movie was crappy, because so much material was skipped.

You guys don't dig this?
(http://i.imgur.com/P0h8OSC.png)

I do really dig it. Too bad it will probably be 15% this and 85% of early PS2 game graphics.
Though when I saw this particular face I did think that it was a studio different from 4*C. The movies had Guts with a face that seemed fatter and not rough enough like in the manga or the old anime series for that matter.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tripas on December 30, 2015, 11:07:18 PM
I'm still skeptical about this. And not because the poor animation or some artistic choices, but because the story. If they keep focusing on making cool battles, fantastic environments and unnecessary cameos... Well, after all, Berserk isn't more than monsters and blood, is it? What can spectators search besides fanservice?

On the other hand, I don't get how Miura could give the rights to make an anime so easily. Given the amount of effort he has put in his work, I can imagine him very strict with these things. Maybe little to none studios were interested in this? Maybe Hakusensha has very influence over it?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: SuperVegetto on December 30, 2015, 11:20:03 PM
I'm still skeptical about this. And not because the poor animation or some artistic choices, but because the story. If they keep focusing on making cool battles, fantastic environments and unnecessary cameos... Well, after all, Berserk isn't more than monsters and blood, is it? What can spectators search besides fanservice?

On the other hand, I don't get how Miura could give the rights to make an anime so easily. Given the amount of effort he has put in his work, I can imagine him very strict with these things. Maybe little to none studios were interested in this? Maybe Hakusensha has very influence over it?

I agree. I got a JoJo feeling watching the teaser, but I guess it's just a teaser and it's too early to say anything. I just hope they prioritize substance over style.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gummyskull on December 30, 2015, 11:48:06 PM
I agree. I got a JoJo feeling watching the teaser...

What do you mean? Because the most recent jjba pv was significantly better than this.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on December 31, 2015, 08:51:54 AM
On the other hand, I don't get how Miura could give the rights to make an anime so easily. Given the amount of effort he has put in his work, I can imagine him very strict with these things. Maybe little to none studios were interested in this? Maybe Hakusensha has very influence over it?

Reading how it went down for the movies, he was basically cheated into thinking they'd do a good job by a demo featuring great footage (of which screenshots were leaked, if you remember) (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12735.0) before the project was turned into shit. They even specified at the time that he had refused many propositions in the past because he felt they weren't good enough before accepting that one. Imagine the disappointment, the betrayal he must have felt. So anyway I'm not sure how much of a say he has in all this now.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: mazinken on December 31, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
I have strong feeling that even if it's not the same studio the team behind the shitty movies is still involved the teaser have their signature all over it. My guess this will be a direct continuation of the movie and they will just slam the black swordsman arc just to please Mr. Miura.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Menosgade on December 31, 2015, 10:12:44 AM
Reading how it went down for the movies, he was basically cheated into thinking they'd do a good job by a demo featuring great footage (of which screenshots were leaked, if you remember) (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12735.0) before the project was turned into shit. They even specified at the time that he had refused many propositions in the past because he felt they weren't good enough before accepting that one. Imagine the disappointment, the betrayal he must have felt. So anyway I'm not sure how much of a say he has in all this now.

 That's so awful  :mozgus: what the heck do these people think? That goes for the new anime as well.

 Such a considerable crowd hoping for quality Berserk animation. They aren't really fooling many people, except those who don't really know what Berserk is. Wrecking up the story won't really make them profit more, original Berserk is certainly a lot better than a washed up story heavy-metal-big-sword-hack n' slash thing, but that's pretty much obvious, and it is what all fans would like to see.

 If they barely can make a proper animation, it's doubtful that they can also give it the Berserk feel in all senses possible. For example, how the characters' behaviours and expressions change organically as the story progresses, sometimes you don't even realize it, looks very natural, yet simple movimentation they don't seem able to make look plausible. Imagine the Beast shown in weird graphics like the skeletons, the crown and the blood pool, or moving in weird animations... seems hopeless to me.

 Walter's post with curved Dragon Slayer represents what I think of this - an awesome sword completely disfigured.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on December 31, 2015, 11:13:08 PM
Reading how it went down for the movies, he was basically cheated into thinking they'd do a good job by a demo featuring great footage (of which screenshots were leaked, if you remember) (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=12735.0) before the project was turned into shit. They even specified at the time that he had refused many propositions in the past because he felt they weren't good enough before accepting that one. Imagine the disappointment, the betrayal he must have felt. So anyway I'm not sure how much of a say he has in all this now.

Bait-and-switching the Berserk fans with leaked animation footage, and lying to them on Twitter with the promises of "faithful adaption" is one thing. But lying to the Berserk's original creator? That's a scumbag move on a whole new level. I wonder, how the Studio 4C managed to pull it off? Merely creating a few minutes of slick-looking animated demo footage could have been done by any major anime studio. Better companies like Bones, Madhouse or Gainax could have done it too, if they wanted. What was it about Studio 4C that set them apart from other companies and made Kentaro Miura put his trust in them? A mere demo footage alone wouldn't have been enough to get Miura to sign off his story to Studio 4C and completely relinquish all creative control to them. I believe there must have been some kind of verbal promise from the Studio 4C that their movies were going to be faithful to their manga source. Because if that promise was made it writing, on a contract, then Studio 4C would have been legally obligated to make their Berserk films stay true to the original manga. And Miura would have been in power to prevent Studio 4C from making any more movies, after the hatchet job they did with the Golden Age Arc. But those are just my speculations. I wonder if we'll ever get the true full story behind this...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on January 01, 2016, 12:27:57 PM
Bait-and-switching the Berserk fans with leaked animation footage, and lying to them on Twitter with the promises of "faithful adaption" is one thing. But lying to the Berserk's original creator? That's a scumbag move on a whole new level. I wonder, how the Studio 4C managed to pull it off? Merely creating a few minutes of slick-looking animated demo footage could have been done by any major anime studio. Better companies like Bones, Madhouse or Gainax could have done it too, if they wanted. What was it about Studio 4C that set them apart from other companies and made Kentaro Miura put his trust in them? A mere demo footage alone wouldn't have been enough to get Miura to sign off his story to Studio 4C and completely relinquish all creative control to them. I believe there must have been some kind of verbal promise from the Studio 4C that their movies were going to be faithful to their manga source. Because if that promise was made it writing, on a contract, then Studio 4C would have been legally obligated to make their Berserk films stay true to the original manga. And Miura would have been in power to prevent Studio 4C from making any more movies, after the hatchet job they did with the Golden Age Arc. But those are just my speculations. I wonder if we'll ever get the true full story behind this...

From what I remember, basically a guy came up to Hakusensha and Miura with a project and a budget and showed them that demo reel. He presented himself as a Berserk fan and said he was serious about doing it right. And they would do the entire series. Among his arguments were the fact the use of 3D computer graphics would allow to dramatically reduce the budget necessary to get the project done, especially during large battle scenes. We all know how that turned out.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Doc on January 01, 2016, 01:03:29 PM
Who currently owns the rights to animate Berserk? And if it's no longer Studio 4C, does that mean Miura would need to personally sign this off or what?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Bandreus on January 02, 2016, 04:06:58 PM
Who currently owns the rights to animate Berserk? And if it's no longer Studio 4C, does that mean Miura would need to personally sign this off or what?

I don't think Studio 4C ever owned the rights to anything Berserk-related, specifically?

In fact, the notion of the studio adapting/animating a manga also owning any rights over the specific property is a very common misconception, I find. Of course, exceptions can be found, though it's rarer and rarer of an instance, nowadays.

When it comes to the Golden Age Arc Movies, you never see Studio 4C mentioned in the copyright credits line (which gets clearly shown on, say, official posters, the dvd boxes etc). Rather, the credits line for the movies reads somewhat like the following: Kentarou Miura (Studio Gaga) Hakusensha/Berserk Film Partners.

The author and his studio are a given, as is the case for the publisher. As you can see, the "Berserk Film Partners" also got mentioned among the copyright-holders.

This is a very common instance in the Japanese market, where a production committee often (almost always, actually, in the case of manga adaptations) gets created for the sole purpose of adapting a manga series in some other form (say, an anime, movie or whatever). This is a board which might comprise any of the following:  investors, publishers, animation studios, distributors, merchandise manufacturers, etc. Basically anybody who's actually putting on the table the money required to actually acquire the rights from the owners and produce the adaptation itself.

(Matters are usually way more complicated than this as the production committee is usually comprised of subjects owning different kinds of rights over the same IP. So the production committee will usually include the company owning the rights to releasing the OST, the one owning the rights to distribute the home video edition, etc etc etc. But I digress).

If you check the copyright credits line for the new anime project (say on the official website) you'll notice that the "Berserk Film Partners" are mentioned nowhere. The "Berserk Production Committee" is mentioned instead.

Now, this fact alone doesn't say much. Theoretically, this new production committee might be the same people behind the movies, only being mentioned by a different name. I do not personally think that's being the case, here, but that's only me.

Specifically, Studio 4C might have had a seat in the "Berserk Film Partners", originally. But the fact a different committee is now being mentioned for this project makes me think we're not dealing with yet another movie by the same people who produced the Golden Age Arc. Ofc, Studio 4C might still be the ones being tasked with delivering the actual adaptation, though it's still very much unclear and will likely be until more info gets released.

I guess I didn't actually answer Doc's question. In all honesty, coming by solid, reliable information about who exactly holds the rights to adapting a manga property into anime form is no easy task. Maybe some Japanese-speaking user will be able to go into the matter with greater detail. But I felt like delving for a moment into a subject which is only discussed on rare occasions.

Also, first post on skullnight by a long-time, Italian Berserk fan, though I've been lurking for quite a while now. Yay for me?  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: False on January 05, 2016, 02:12:10 AM
He presented himself as a Berserk fan and said he was serious about doing it right. And they would do the entire series.

I'd be hurt forever after the movies that resulted. Seriously, what a huge :rickert: to the face.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: wriggles on January 05, 2016, 01:17:27 PM
Aw hellll no, they're using the same sound effects as that garbage in Arslan Senki. Everything from sword swinging to horseback riding is going to sound like someone is smashing the microphone against a cement brick. Literally the worst sound effects artist i've ever heard in my life. He single-handedly ruined Arslan Senki for me.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on January 05, 2016, 09:21:06 PM
I wouldn't put much thought on the sound effects or the music they used in the teaser.  Many times teasers/trailers are done before assets like that have been created or finalized.  Typically just placeholder stuff.

Anyways, my friend sent me this today.  Kinda cool that Berserk is getting some promotion from Stan Lee (though very likely it is his "team" that posted this).

http://imgur.com/AVB0qdX
(http://i.imgur.com/AVB0qdX.jpg)

And his official blog: http://therealstanlee.com/Guts-Is-Coming-Back-In-2016

I would really like to see more people exposed to Berserk.  Hopefully, this 2016 anime encourages more people to check it out and read the manga!

On a side note, this past weekend, my coworker and his fiance saw the first Berserk movie show up on their Netflix, and without knowing what it was, watched it, then immediately watched movies 2 and 3, and now my coworker is watching the 97 anime, while his fiance is reading the manga!  So even if this anime tanks (which I hope it doesn't, I'm actually super stoked for it as some of you probably know), some good can come out of it regardless!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on January 05, 2016, 11:57:35 PM
Yeah I saw that yesterday. Of course, its basically  the Stan Lee brand's Facebook page (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153837751091543&id=26500661542) (I was downvoted to oblivion on Reddit for pointing this out) but it's a big deal, real Stan Lee or not. 5 million people like that page.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on January 06, 2016, 02:27:39 AM
Yeah I saw that yesterday. Of course, its basically  the Stan Lee brand's Facebook page (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153837751091543&id=26500661542) (I was downvoted to oblivion on Reddit for pointing this out) but it's a big deal, real Stan Lee or not. 5 million people like that page.

Must have been the Idea of Evil planning all this. (Btw is the emoticon still existing? I can't quite find where/how to use it)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on January 06, 2016, 02:49:59 AM
Must have been the Idea of Evil planning all this. (Btw is the emoticon still existing? I can't quite find where/how to use it)

To prevent overuse, some emoticons are hidden but still accessible if you can guess the name :idea:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Yozuru on January 06, 2016, 03:51:31 AM
I literally cried tears of joy when I saw the trailer! I haven't been excited for something like this in so long!  :casca:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Vixen Comics on January 09, 2016, 03:54:58 PM
I wish I could get excited about this new berserk anime but I can not get my self too. I was so disappointed with the movies and that it destroyed my faith that a decent berserk anime adaption can be be made. I know I should give this a chance but I'm very skeptical at this point. Berserk is such a well thought out and and tightly plotted story with every detail to the story and characterazation woven just perfectly. Nothing is arbitrary in berserk and in these adaption s even the smallest miniscule change has the potential to unravel important plot points and characterazation which really screws up the the whole thing. And then it falls flat or ruins it completely. Berserk is not one of those mangas that you can change things around for what ever reason.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Yozuru on January 13, 2016, 11:56:11 AM
I wish I could get excited about this new berserk anime but I can not get my self too. I was so disappointed with the movies and that it destroyed my faith that a decent berserk anime adaption can be be made. I know I should give this a chance but I'm very skeptical at this point. Berserk is such a well thought out and and tightly plotted story with every detail to the story and characterazation woven just perfectly. Nothing is arbitrary in berserk and in these adaption s even the smallest miniscule change has the potential to unravel important plot points and characterazation which really screws up the the whole thing. And then it falls flat or ruins it completely. Berserk is not one of those mangas that you can change things around for what ever reason.

I know how you feel very well Vixen, a lot of series unfortunately falls short and with Berserk's complex plotlines, it'll be very easy to ruin the adaption. For me, I think about the good parts of an anime adaption for Berserk. What I am most elated about is how the anime adaption will bring more fan to the series. (The increase in figma and merchandise for Berserk will be glorious. :ubik:) I am also very interested in the anime soundtrack that will go along with the adaption. It'll be hard to top Forces as my top anime track.

Overall if anything, having extremely low expectations can make it so you're never disappointed. I just hope that the adaption will meet that expectation and beyond.  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on January 14, 2016, 03:42:10 AM
If we, on an English speaking board, are lamenting how terribly the story has been adapted then what must be happening on Japanese boards?  Surely there must be plenty of diehard Berserk sites and forums by/for the Japanese audience.  Our mods here could do better continuity checks off the tops of their heads than the entirety of Studio 4C apparently. 

That image definitely looks like 4C and I'll be saddened when its confirmed they are heading up this project.  I just don't understand it.  If there is this much backlash in the English speaking community then surely it must be 100x worst in the Japanese community.  Why haven't they just reached out to the Japanese equivalent of Aaz, Griff, Walter, etc. for consultation/QA and do this thing right?  They must be getting boatloads of mail from fans begging for them to do this right.  Isn't there some Otaku around that would give his right arm while working pro bono to be a consultant?

At this point, they have to make up so much ground to the fans (and hey how about Miura) they should be on their hands and knees begging for another chance.  The teaser should remove all doubt from our minds and whip us into a goddamn frenzy.  Instead it took all of 10 seconds for people to realize the image is wrong.  If they want to skip the Black Swordsman opening, FINE!!! BUT don't try to retcon the stuff that has been omitted, make an OVA down the line that fills in the gaps.  This is legendary source material!  If they would just adapt the damn story boards given to them on a silver platter then they might actually create something worth watching and, MOST IMPORTANTLY for the studio, actually make $$$$$$$$$$.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tangsta on January 18, 2016, 12:17:35 PM
I'm really glad there are more Berserk animation to come, but the poor use of CGI by Studio 4C in the first trilogy of movies was a bit off-putting. I was a bit sad to see it makes a return according to the trailer.

Also, I have to admit I had no idea how hated the movies are in this forum. I too thought it had its fair share of flaws, but overall was not a bad watch and I was able to hook in a few friends, who had never even heard of Berserk before, into the series and they are now well into the manga and loving it! I think given the landscape of Anime atm, the Berserk movies were far better than most and I would much rather watch another 4C produced Berserk movie than yet another Pokemon/Naruto/One Piece feature.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hanma_Baki on January 18, 2016, 11:02:47 PM
Sure you might have a point in that regard...but, yeah well, most of us dont compare Berserk anime adaptations to those other series you mentioned, or any other franchise for that matter, but to the source material of Berserk itself, of which it is based on... (at the risk of sounding like a smart ass hehe :slan: )

From that perspective you might understand our contempt
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tangsta on January 19, 2016, 12:29:01 AM

From that perspective you might understand our contempt

Oh, of course! There's plenty of room for improvement there. But at the very least they are attempting to adapt source material that is worthy of adaptation. That simply doesn't happen enough in Anime, imho, especially in an industry that is dying and the no.1 priority is to go for a 'huge mainstream hit' with plenty of ludicrous fan service just to survive.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: False on February 04, 2016, 08:15:34 AM
Again, not sure if this deserves it's own topic but!

Berserk will be a TV Anime according to this tweet. (https://twitter.com/berserk_anime/status/695170892800757760)

Yay for it not being movie(s)?  :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jerkins on February 04, 2016, 08:54:22 AM
http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00060000.html (http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00060000.html)

It's also confirmed for Summer 2016 (July).

I should probably watch the movies before then. 5 months is enough time for me to get around to it! :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on February 04, 2016, 09:03:32 AM
Again, not sure if this deserves it's own topic but!

Berserk will be a TV Anime according to this tweet. (https://twitter.com/berserk_anime/status/695170892800757760)
http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00060000.html (http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00060000.html)

It's also confirmed for Summer 2016 (July).

Thanks for sharing !

Yay for it not being movie(s)?  :serpico:

A TV anime will probably skip less content than a movie but it doesn't mean it will be good, we can't be sure before seeing it (I know I'm not very optimistic).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on February 04, 2016, 11:46:52 AM
More details in English:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/new-berserk-anime-is-tv-series-that-premieres-in-july/.98320

A CG series doesn't seem plausible, so here's hoping the CG crap was just for the promo.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: TheAlmightyLoli on February 04, 2016, 12:01:09 PM
I'm just happy to know when it's coming out.

Now all we have to do is wait to see if we need our pitchforks or our party streamers.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on February 04, 2016, 02:25:18 PM
More details in English:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/new-berserk-anime-is-tv-series-that-premieres-in-july/.98320

A CG series doesn't seem plausible, so here's hoping the CG crap was just for the promo.

Don't bet on it. 2-D faces pasted on 3-D bodies, "uncanny valley" inducing jarring CGI fight scenes - this has Studio 4C's fingerprints all over it. This is gonna be just as bad as the movies, if not worse. I wouldn't expect anything less from Studio 4C. I was personally hoping that Netflix would someday license Berserk and give it the same kind of luxurious treatment they did for Seven Deadly Sins - produce a Netlix-original Berserk anime series that was gonna be accurate to manga and have outstanding animation quality. All while not having to worry about by TV censorship.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: RaffoBaffo on February 04, 2016, 02:49:23 PM
A CG series doesn't seem plausible
That was before Sidonia.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on February 04, 2016, 03:09:45 PM
A TV series is a step in the right direction at least. Here's to hoping the shitty CG is the worse offender of this production and that we can get a quality adaptation out of what so far appears to be another mess. Trying to stay positive.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on February 04, 2016, 06:10:27 PM
A CG series doesn't seem plausible

Why wouldn't it be? For reference, this is the Twitter profile picture of the official Berserk anime account:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/680289452493701120/uVCcAkZq.jpg)

You better not get your hopes up.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jerkins on February 04, 2016, 08:08:04 PM
I was personally hoping that Netflix would someday license Berserk and give it the same kind of luxurious treatment they did for Seven Deadly Sins - produce a Netlix-original Berserk anime series that was gonna be accurate to manga and have outstanding animation quality.

The Seven Deadly Sins was animated by A-1 Pictures, just so you know. Netflix just did the dub and releasing in US and that stuff. A-1 wouldn't be that great for Berserk, but it'd be better than CGI. :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: SamNeillium on February 04, 2016, 08:41:21 PM
More details in English:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/new-berserk-anime-is-tv-series-that-premieres-in-july/.98320

A CG series doesn't seem plausible, so here's hoping the CG crap was just for the promo.

Tell that to the two CG series airing this season.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on February 04, 2016, 09:36:19 PM
Since it is going to be a TV anime I wonder how many cours it's going to be? If it's just going to be one cour (which is usually 12-13 episodes) I wonder how much of the manga they will adapt? If they are going to actually adapt the Black Swordsman Arc from the manga and not just the Conviction Arc, I could see one cour covering the entirety of the Black Swordsman Arc, plus the Lost Children Chapter of the Conviction Arc. With a second cour I could see them adapting the rest of the Conviction Arc. Also the unadapted bookend episodes of the Golden Age Arc will probably need an anime episode to establish Rickert, Godot, and Erica as characters and to show the Demon Child's origins. Anyways I can only hope it isn't a full CGI series like the Ajin: Demi-Human anime is.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on February 05, 2016, 12:06:49 AM
TV series this summer? Got it.

The slow drip of news for this thing is pretty sad. How many more Anime News Network headlines can their marketing team milk out of this thing before it's out?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Bender on February 05, 2016, 06:01:09 AM
Why wouldn't it be? For reference, this is the Twitter profile picture of the official Berserk anime account:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/680289452493701120/uVCcAkZq.jpg)

You better not get your hopes up.

His arm looks so weird in that image.  I can't figure out the perspective but it just looks off. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hensmon on March 06, 2016, 01:24:56 PM
Jesus, that trailer looks abysmal. For the love of god if the anime series looks anything like this then it may not even be worth watching. More (attempted) style over substance crap. How can any artist take this seriously?

In the 97 anime we had countless scenes where the budget was clearly lacking and therefore stills were used in place, mainly the battles.... here's the irony... the anime is still great and this ultimately didn't matter! If the content is good and well worked, you don't need flashy battle scenes and bones flying at you in 3 dimensions. All the beauty, realism and detail is sucked try with this amateur looking 3D. Sounds like the music will be generic too. Fantastic.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: PENumber2 on March 06, 2016, 05:23:53 PM
I think Guts's armor looking the way it does in the trailer was just a style decision. It hints to me they might skip him getting the Berserker Armor all together, at least as one full suit down the road. In the manga he was getting taken over by the Beast of Darkness well before he ever wore it.

Also each movie has been getting progressively longer.

Berserk: The Golden Age Arc I     1h 17m
Berserk: The Golden Age Arc II    1h 33m
Berserk: The Golden Age Arc III   1h 50m

We don't have a run time (or confirmation that it's even going to be one movie) but they can still cover a lot of ground.

We don't need an introduction to Puck because he was in the wagon with Rickert at the end of the last movie. So they might just have him flying around Guts from the start. They need a reason to bring up what happened in the past, so the grave yard of swords will likely still be in there (and I hope they keep the rematch with Guts vs. Zodd if not this film then the next). Guts will more than likely still have nightmares about what happened and his fighting ghosts at night will remind us that he's a bad ass. He needs a motive other than kill kill kill, and we need a plot as well, so they'll likely rush Casca running off and getting found by a band of gypsies (I forget their names). Guts runs off to try and find her, kill apostles along the way, and hopefully we'll end up with Griffith being reborn into the world.

I think they could fit all of this into one film. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on March 06, 2016, 11:38:41 PM
We don't have a run time (or confirmation that it's even going to be one movie)

Well the new project has been confirmed to be a TV series, so no need to go into analytics.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rhombaad on March 07, 2016, 05:15:19 PM
It hints to me they might skip him getting the Berserker Armor all together, at least as one full suit down the road. In the manga he was getting taken over by the Beast of Darkness well before he ever wore it.

We haven't seen anything that hints at Guts not getting the Berserk's armor. All we know is that he's wearing the armor Godot made for him in the trailer and preview images. If anything, this hints at them skipping over the armor he wore in the Black Swordsman arc and Lost Children chapter.

We don't need an introduction to Puck because he was in the wagon with Rickert at the end of the last movie. So they might just have him flying around Guts from the start.They need a reason to bring up what happened in the past, so the grave yard of swords will likely still be in there (and I hope they keep the rematch with Guts vs. Zodd if not this film then the next). Guts will more than likely still have nightmares about what happened and his fighting ghosts at night will remind us that he's a bad ass. He needs a motive other than kill kill kill, and we need a plot as well, so they'll likely rush Casca running off and getting found by a band of gypsies (I forget their names). Guts runs off to try and find her, kill apostles along the way, and hopefully we'll end up with Griffith being reborn into the world.

I don't think that would be a good way to handle the series at all. They should ignore the previous three movies and start fresh, faithfully adapting the manga. Also, Casca isn't found by a band of gypsies, she's found by Luka and her fellow prostitutes, who are on their way to Albion.

I think they could fit all of this into one film.

There's no way they could fit all of that into one film, and if they tried it would be a mess, just like the first three movies.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on March 16, 2016, 01:36:20 AM
This is just going off google translate, but the berserk_anime twitter just tweeted 2 new things:

https://twitter.com/berserk_anime/status/709922989337227264
https://twitter.com/berserk_anime/status/709923663806464000

It seems that on 3/26 we should expect new footage!  It'll show at the NBC Universal booth at Anime Japan 2016.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 16, 2016, 02:12:50 PM
FIELDS, eh?

That's these guys: http://slot-berserk.jp/


Special preview!!!!!  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jackolyn on March 16, 2016, 02:34:06 PM
FIELDS, eh?

That's these guys: http://slot-berserk.jp/

https://www.youtube.com/embed/OOg5ZLIZZHs?rel=0
Special preview!!!!!  :ganishka:

That video gave me a brain aneurysm. So much sensory overload!!
There are moments that I find appealing, but my brain needs rest after watching that...please don't let the anime have rainbow explosions.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 16, 2016, 03:23:15 PM
The fuck did I just watched?  :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: RaffoBaffo on March 16, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
The fuck did I just watched?  :schierke:
The Pachinko.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: IncantatioN on March 16, 2016, 03:54:40 PM
The fuck did I just watched?  :schierke:

Like Raffo said, it's a Pachinko and I remember watching an hour long video of the playthrough. There's a topic for it too - http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=14008.msg233805#msg233805

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 16, 2016, 04:18:18 PM
I meant it more as in : " That's horrible!."

The song with the clip...

 :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on March 16, 2016, 06:32:04 PM
In my opinion the animation of it looks better than what we saw in the trailer. (I'm not jumping on conclusions about this upcoming anime, just a statement about what I saw)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 16, 2016, 07:33:38 PM
There are moments that I find appealing, but my brain needs rest after watching that...please don't let the anime have rainbow explosions.

I make no promises! Seriously though, nothing is known for sure yet. It could just be that FIELDS will be promoting their Berserk pachislot machine alongside the new anime at this upcoming show. Both ventures are part of "Berserk Film Partners."

Personally, as I've said before, I think there's something very entertaining about the Berserk pachislot's over-the-top presentation. It's not something that belongs in a Berserk series trying to remain representational, but it nonetheless makes me laugh enjoyably whenever I see it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 16, 2016, 07:41:29 PM
Here's what the tweets say:

Quote
Information for Anime Japan 2016: For two days, on March 26 and 27, in the NBC Universal booth and the FIELDS booth, a life-size Dragon Slayer will be displayed. Don't miss it!
Also, calendar postcards will be given for free on a first come, first serve basis.

(Second tweet) Moreover, new visuals and a new PV will also be shown at the NBC Universal booth and the FIELDS booth, as well as in other booths. More info to come on which booths later.

For those who don't know, PV = Promotional Video.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: PENumber2 on March 16, 2016, 09:51:07 PM
They should have designed a pinball game and themed the paddles after Guts's sword.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jackolyn on March 17, 2016, 06:05:06 AM
Personally, as I've said before, I think there's something very entertaining about the Berserk pachislot's over-the-top presentation. It's not something that belongs in a Berserk series trying to remain representational, but it nonetheless makes me laugh enjoyably whenever I see it.

I whole heatedly agree with you, there is indeed a very "sugar rush" like type of excitement I get when watching it. It's like I'm a kid in a candy shop, it's just an overload of awesome and explosions, it's just so over the top!
I just recommend you don't watch it full screen first thing in the morning after you wake up like I had done, hence the headache....
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on March 22, 2016, 07:38:56 AM
More news of the upcoming anime just came out!  :ubik:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-22/new-berserk-tv-anime-cast-staff-july-premiere-unveiled/.100100
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 22, 2016, 10:52:28 AM
More news of the upcoming anime just came out!  :ubik:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-22/new-berserk-tv-anime-cast-staff-july-premiere-unveiled/.100100

See this picture for those interested: https://www.flickr.com/photos/earlbox/25857985382/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/earlbox/25857985382/)

Personally I'm sticking to my "wait and see" approach on this one. I'll reserve my judgment until it airs.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Earthlingzing on March 22, 2016, 11:21:54 AM
See this picture for those interested: https://www.flickr.com/photos/earlbox/25857985382/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/earlbox/25857985382/)

Personally I'm sticking to my "wait and see" approach on this one. I'll reserve my judgment until it airs.

Is that picture referencing from any part of the manga? Guts looks kind of weird over there.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Menosgade on March 22, 2016, 11:38:20 AM
Is that picture referencing from any part of the manga? Guts looks kind of weird over there.

Seems to be when he fights Rosine. He'd be wearing another amor, but the posters indicate they didn't bother with this.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on March 22, 2016, 11:53:16 AM
More news of the upcoming anime just came out!  :ubik:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-22/new-berserk-tv-anime-cast-staff-july-premiere-unveiled/.100100

Great, thanks!

See this picture for those interested: https://www.flickr.com/photos/earlbox/25857985382/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/earlbox/25857985382/)

Personally I'm sticking to my "wait and see" approach on this one. I'll reserve my judgment until it airs.

I'll stick with you, but I'm glad that we finally had the chance to see Puck! :puck: (in the corner of a rotated page... :schierke:)
And is there some interesting info to translate that we don't know yet on this page?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 22, 2016, 12:23:10 PM
Seems to be when he fights Rosine. He'd be wearing another amor, but the posters indicate they didn't bother with this.

What makes you think this is the Rochine fight? And he's wearing the correct armor now.

And is there some interesting info to translate that we don't know yet on this page?

Isidro and Griffith have voice actors assigned, which makes me really wonder what the scope of this animation will be. And uh .. Casca does too, so it could just be flashbacks for her and Griff.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on March 22, 2016, 12:26:20 PM
Here is the listed Staff & Cast


Director: Shin Itagaki
Series Composition: Makoto Fukami
Series Composition Cooperation: Takashi Yamashita
Main Character Designer: Hisashi Abe
Music: Shiro Sagisu
Production: LIDEN FILMS
Animation Production: GEMBA/millepensee
-Cast-
Guts - (CV: Hiroaki Iwanaga)
Puck - (CV: Kaoru Mizuhara)
Farnese - (CV: Youko Hikasa)
Serpico - (CV: Kazuyuki Okitsu)
Isidro - (CV: Hiro Shimono)
Azan - (CV: Hiroki Yasumoto)
Casca - (CV: Toa Yukinari)
Griffith - (CV: Takahiro Sakurai)
Skull Knight - (CV: Akio Otsuka)
Narrator - (CV: Unshou Ishizuka)

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 22, 2016, 01:14:58 PM
Here is the listed Staff & Cast

Thanks, though it's all already in the ANN link Patrick posted to revive the thread.

Isidro and Griffith have voice actors assigned, which makes me really wonder what the scope of this animation will be. And uh .. Casca does too, so it could just be flashbacks for her and Griff.

Yeah this is the more puzzling aspect. I think this hints at an adaptation not just of the Lost Children chapter but the entire Conviction arc... And maybe beyond that.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on March 22, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
Thanks, though it's all already in the ANN link Patrick posted to revive the thread.

 :schnoz: Should have checked the posts more clearly, sorry for that
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on March 22, 2016, 01:40:33 PM
The best news out of this, in my opinion, is Hirasawa is once again doing an insert track (the title perhaps?)!

Quote
Susumu Hirasawa (Berserk series and films, Millennium Actress, Paranoia Agent) is composing an insert song for the anime titled "Hai yo" (Ash).

The guy who did the movie music (Shiro Sagisu) is back for the rest of the soundtrack, so...eh. At least it'll be consistent with the movies?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 22, 2016, 02:01:47 PM

Personally I'm sticking to my "wait and see" approach on this one. I'll reserve my judgment until it airs.

As much as I like this new image, I think it's the best thing to do. "Wait and see" I've been fool before with nice visuals before the final product.


Damn right! Susuma Hirasawa new track somewhere in that anime. Yeah!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on March 22, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
Thanks for the heads up, Patrick.

It's kinda surreal for me to see voice actors listed for characters such as Serpico and Farnese.  It's finally happening!!!  Let's just hope it's good... :serpico:

I don't follow enough anime anymore to know anything about the rest of the staff.  I followed the links in the ANN database and from what I can tell, none of them seem like heavy hitters.  Hopefully Berserk will be their love child and they will put their best in.

Shiro doing the soundtrack is so-so news for me.  I liked a few of the songs in the trilogy, but Susumu will always have my heart.  It was too much to expect Susumu would do the full soundtrack, so I'm at least happy he will do one insert song, which may be similar to how "Forces" was used in the 97 series.

I'm eagerly waiting for the new PV video.  I expect it to show actual footage this time, as opposed to the teaser in December, which I felt wasn't necessarily so.  And generally speaking, July is not too far off at all.  Can't believe Berserk will have a new anime so "soon"!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on March 22, 2016, 05:55:42 PM
I'm also going in with a "wait and see" expectation, nothing to get too excited over but also not much to really be super anxious/pessimistic about. In regards to the voice cast I found it interesting that while Guts, Griffith, Casca, and Skull Knight are all being reprized by their movie voice actors, they also got Unshou Ishizuka, who was Void/the Narrator in the 1997 series, to come back as well. Also interested to see how the new voice actors for Guts' companions will compare to their PS2 video game counterparts. Also excited for the new Susumu Hirasawa insert song.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 22, 2016, 06:34:08 PM
In regards to the voice cast I found it interesting that while Guts, Griffith, Casca, and Skull Knight are all being reprized by their movie voice actors

Well it makes sense, they're not going to change the cast every time.

Also interested to see how the new voice actors for Guts' companions will compare to their PS2 video game counterparts.

Uhhh hopefully much much better.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on March 22, 2016, 07:26:04 PM
Well it makes sense, they're not going to change the cast every time.
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that I was surprised that the movie voice actors were recast again. What I was pleasantly surprised about, was that that 1997 voice actor for the Narrator/Void was brought back, instead of the movie Void voice actor.

Uhhh hopefully much much better.
I agree that they will likely be much better. I was more indicating interest in what types of voices they will sound like in terms of range/tone, e.g. I've always thought the video game voice actor for Isidro had a vocal tone/pitch that sounded older than I would expect for the character, so I am curious if the new voice actor will have similar tone/pitch as the video game one or if they will go for a younger sounding portrayal.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: NightCrawler on March 22, 2016, 07:27:00 PM
The guy who did the movie music (Shiro Sagisu) is back for the rest of the soundtrack, so...eh. At least it'll be consistent with the movies?

Consistently bland then.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 22, 2016, 07:35:55 PM
Consistently bland then.

Incoming: Blad and Guts II.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on March 24, 2016, 06:12:47 PM
Looks like the new anime will have 24 episodes!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/24/german-site-lists-24-episodes-for-upcoming-berserk-tv-anime
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 24, 2016, 06:25:02 PM
Looks like the new anime will have 24 episodes!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/24/german-site-lists-24-episodes-for-upcoming-berserk-tv-anime

Germany is known for releasing unreliable information. http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=14341
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on March 24, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
Germany is known for releasing unreliable information. http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=14341

My mistake! I thought it was legit since it was on Crunchyroll. Thanks for letting me know!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Earthlingzing on March 25, 2016, 08:06:45 AM
High quality version of the earlier pic: http://moca-news.net/article/20160325/2016032518000a_/image001.html
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on March 25, 2016, 10:01:01 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/hGTtveK.jpg)
The official site got updated with the staff, cast and the recent key visual.
http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00100000.html

"Ram that steel"
https://twitter.com/MichaelToole/status/713237293021040643
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on March 25, 2016, 12:16:39 PM
Im glad that they fixed his armor.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nildin on March 25, 2016, 12:46:46 PM
Quote
Miura himself is serving as executive supervisor for the series.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-03-25/berserk-tv-anime-new-key-visual-revealed/.100247

What exactly is the job of an executive supervisor?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 25, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-03-25/berserk-tv-anime-new-key-visual-revealed/.100247

What exactly is the job of an executive supervisor?

Hopefully more authoritative than his role in the 1997 anime as "script supervisor."
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on March 25, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
Is it possible Miura has put his foot down and decided to take the reigns of this production or is this wishful thinking?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on March 25, 2016, 01:58:02 PM
Is it possible Miura has put his foot down and decided to take the reigns of this production or is this wishful thinking?

Might be wishful thinking, but I'll be crossing my fingers!!  It almost sounds too good to be true.  And in less than 24 hours we should have a new trailer too.  AHHHHH the suspense!  :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on March 25, 2016, 02:26:53 PM
I'm trying to stay really open minded about this project...but, does anyone else think Guts's face looks weird in that picture? It looks like some random swordsman is wearing a rubber Guts mask. I think it may be his mouth/lips and the way the shadows lay that's throwing me off.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on March 25, 2016, 02:41:58 PM
...does anyone else think Guts's face looks weird in that picture? It looks like some random swordsman is wearing a rubber Guts mask. I think it may be his mouth/lips and the way the shadows lay that's throwing me off.

His face looks weird to me too.  He looks ashen and or kinda wrinkly.  I'm sure he is supposed to be in full on rage mode so not weird to see his face change a bit but it does look off.   
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Earthlingzing on March 25, 2016, 03:37:33 PM
Its the first time we see Guts making one of his Black Swordsman sadistic faces with the newer art style, so maybe thats why he looks off.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on March 25, 2016, 04:14:33 PM
They must have consulted Art of War for that face.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 25, 2016, 04:55:23 PM
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-03-25/berserk-tv-anime-new-key-visual-revealed/.100247

What exactly is the job of an executive supervisor?

Making sure it doesn't suck as bad as the movies did.

Is it possible Miura has put his foot down and decided to take the reigns of this production or is this wishful thinking?

To me, him having that role is a clear indication that he felt he needed to actively make sure the guys wouldn't butcher his work, and I think that decision is a direct result of what happened with the movies. That also likely is a big factor in the current hiatus.

I'm trying to stay really open minded about this project...but, does anyone else think Guts's face looks weird in that picture? It looks like some random swordsman is wearing a rubber Guts mask. I think it may be his mouth/lips and the way the shadows lay that's throwing me off.

Yeah the face is gross, the likeness is just not there at all. Hopefully just a one-time thing.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Grail on March 25, 2016, 06:32:13 PM
They must have consulted Art of War for that face.

You took the words right out of my mouth, Rupert! :ganishka: Guts's face seems to be a major problem area for people. It's not like he's an old man! :sad:

I'm really relieved that Miura's officially involved. I don't know how much he can salvage from the situation, but as far as I'm concerned, things can only improve!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on March 25, 2016, 06:40:34 PM
Might be wishful thinking, but I'll be crossing my fingers!!  It almost sounds too good to be true.  And in less than 24 hours we should have a new trailer too.  AHHHHH the suspense!  :???:

After this new visual, I really hope that it won't be like the first one. Like you said, the suspense is intense!

I'm trying to stay really open minded about this project...but, does anyone else think Guts's face looks weird in that picture? It looks like some random swordsman is wearing a rubber Guts mask. I think it may be his mouth/lips and the way the shadows lay that's throwing me off.

I don't agree with you on that, I think he's simply grimacing like a boss. But the features of his face are very accentuated by all the shadows, maybe you find it weird because of that.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on March 25, 2016, 08:22:59 PM
To those of you that can, you'll be able to watch the new anime over at Crunchyroll this Summer!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-945233/berserk-is-coming-to-crunchyroll-this-summer
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 25, 2016, 08:40:34 PM
To those of you that can, you'll be able to watch the new anime over at Crunchyroll this Summer!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-945233/berserk-is-coming-to-crunchyroll-this-summer

Nice!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Grifth on March 25, 2016, 11:23:08 PM
The New Trailer is Coming Up? :rakshas:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 25, 2016, 11:53:16 PM
They must have consulted Art of War for that face.

LOL
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 26, 2016, 01:13:13 AM
To those of you that can, you'll be able to watch the new anime over at Crunchyroll this Summer!

http://www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-945233/berserk-is-coming-to-crunchyroll-this-summer

That's really fantastic news. It's great to hear they're getting a swift, legitimate option out there to stem the flow of illegal downloads of this thing.

Now, if only that brand of rational thinking would spread to Hakusensha...  :daiba:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on March 26, 2016, 01:28:56 AM
That's really fantastic news. It's great to hear they're getting a swift, legitimate option out there to stem the flow of illegal downloads of this thing.

I totally misread what you said at first, lol.  But yes, I agree, this is great news!  Having the series simulcast outside of Japan with English (+ other languages I'm sure) is a great, convenient, and legal option for people to see the show.  I know I shouldn't get my hopes up just yet, but this is getting me even more hype!  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: TheAlmightyLoli on March 26, 2016, 01:46:18 AM
Now all we have to do is wait for a new trailer. The news coming out lately has made me pretty damn hyped (I really enjoyed Psycho Pass and Bento).

And it sounds like Miura actually has some power this time around, so this adaptation might actually be good.

Hopefully....

*knocks on wood with extreme might*
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on March 26, 2016, 02:19:44 AM
Here are a couple images from my wife at Anime Japan.

http://imgur.com/a/tLFmx

Always cool to see a scaled dragonslayer.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 26, 2016, 02:45:30 AM
Some new comments on the animation from Miura, Susumu and the staff/cast: http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00100000.html

Trailer is probably a few hours away, but bed is calling...

PS: Lol at the Romanizations of the names (Isydro, Celpikko, Falnase, Grifis): http://berserk-anime.com/character/index.html
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on March 26, 2016, 02:57:02 AM

To me, him having that role is a clear indication that he felt he needed to actively make sure the guys wouldn't butcher his work, and I think that decision is a direct result of what happened with the movies. That also likely is a big factor in the current hiatus.


I remember the hiatus before the movies debuted.  There was a lot of speculation that Miura was taking the break to work on the films.  I think you were telling everyone back then not to get our hopes up as it was most likely a regular break.  To  hear you say you think he's working on this actually has me more excited about the project than anything else we've seen or heard.

Think about where we are in the story.  We are on goddamn Skellig!  As badly as we want to see what happens to Casca, I'm sure Miura is even more excited to finally be able to tell us!  If it's true that he is allocating time away from the publications to facilitate work on the series then he must have faith in it...or he just fed up with the incompetence.  Hope I'm not extrapolating into absurdity but seems to me this next year might be the best year for fans in the history of Berserk. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on March 26, 2016, 03:31:34 AM
A band called 9mm Parabellum Bullet will perform the opening theme for the anime. https://twitter.com/berserk_anime/status/713562083544080385
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on March 26, 2016, 05:38:48 AM
Description of the trailer:

Opens with a quote from Nietzche's "Beyond Good and Evil."

Quote
Wer mit Ungeheuern kmpft, mag zusehn, dass er nicht dabei zum Ungeheuer wird. Und wenn du lange in einen Abgrund blickst, blickt der Abgrund auch in dich hinein.

Translation: He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.


Guts swinging the dragonslayer at skeletons. Appearances by Serpico, Farnese, Azan, Isidro, and Puck. Previews the Susumu insert song 'Hai yo'.

Looks very janky in terms of animation. Character designs aren't terrible, but Isidro looks kind of odd..

Edited for people sensitive to spoilers.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 26, 2016, 06:31:21 AM
PS: Lol at the Romanizations of the names (Isydro, Celpikko, Falnase, Grifis): http://berserk-anime.com/character/index.html

Hahaha, it's a wonder they got "Guts" right. Although I was most pleased that "Skull Knight" was properly translated. :guts:

If it's true that he is allocating time away from the publications to facilitate work on the series then he must have faith in it...or he just fed up with the incompetence.  Hope I'm not extrapolating into absurdity but seems to me this next year might be the best year for fans in the history of Berserk.

Ehhh I'd veer towards the latter rather than the first. Still, it's pretty cool to finally see something other than the Golden Age arc animated, and Miura was clearly as eager as we were for it to happen. I just don't want to get too hopeful this time around because of what went down with the movies... See Uriel's description of the trailer for another confirmation of that.

As for the manga, indeed it's a great time to be a Berserk fan, but when hasn't it been? :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on March 26, 2016, 07:04:45 AM
Alright lads. showtime!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXWDTb73AeE

I'm not too big a fan of that texture they're applying everywhere to hide the CGI, and jeez those colour on the iron chain nights are bright. But i like it more than the first PV that's for sure. Song sounds great too!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on March 26, 2016, 07:10:09 AM
That Hirasawa track is great, and that shot of puck, that's the scene from volume 1 correct? so they're gonna adapt both the black swordsman AND the conviction arc? i thought they were gonna start from the lost children chapter. isidro looks bad.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 26, 2016, 07:41:14 AM
Guys, I don't think we need to spoiler trailer reactions.

That Hirasawa track is great, and that shot of puck, that's the scene from volume 1 correct? so they're gonna adapt both the black swordsman AND the conviction arc? i thought they were gonna start from the lost children chapter. isidro looks bad.

Yes, that scene is from the bar in volume 1. I guess they'll show some of it then, but the question is how much? I'd sure love to see the entire arc adapted, but the focus on the Holy Iron Chain Knights and Isidro makes me think they might just stitch something up to explain why Puck and Guts travel together before moving on to the Lost Children chapter. Also, note that the scene is animated differently from the rest of the trailer.

Regarding the visual quality, I think Azan looks the worst by far, followed by Farnese whose face has a weird shape. Isidro didn't bother me in the half-second he's shown, although his cel shaded face kinda lacks details.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on March 26, 2016, 07:52:43 AM
I stayed up til 4:30am to watch this!!! LOLOLL. Anyways, the trailer was way too short for my liking.  I still wasn't able to get a good taste of what the anime will be like.  I have to admit, I wasn't a fan of the coloring for Farnese/Serpico/Azan, but I liked the Puck shots, and I dug the close up of Guts -> brand -> walking away shot.  The skeleton scene was pretty much the same as the Dec 2015 trailer, so I still feel like that is just an artsy segment of the anime...  Cuz it really does look a lot different than all the new material, even the Farnese shot.

Anyways, damn, I really wanted a longer PV trailer.  Well, hopefully there will be more to come sooner than July!

(Good night!)

*Oh yeah, one more thing. That's one catchy Hirasawa song. It's already stuck in my head lol.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on March 26, 2016, 07:55:07 AM
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makes me think they might just stitch something up to explain why Puck and Guts travel together before moving on to the Lost Children chapter.

rrright of course, and yeah it'd be great if they adapt the first 3 volumes in their entirety. honestly, if this project is going to be this low-budget, then might as well adapt all of the black swordsman.

the only reason i'm slightly excited even though this doesn't look promising at all is just seeing berserk in motion.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MASTER-AMIR on March 26, 2016, 08:06:43 AM
Not bad.better than 1st Pv, Guts face is much like the first poster of the anime.
Susumu Hirasawa song was Awesome.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: SuperVegetto on March 26, 2016, 08:11:41 AM
OMG NIETZSCHE
OMG SUSUMU
OMG PUCK
OMG FARNESE
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  :ubik: :ubik: :ubik: :ubik:


That's one thing I didn't expect to wake up to. Can anyone romaji-ze that new Hirasawa song's name? (From what I can gather it's Hai no yō)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on March 26, 2016, 09:51:52 AM
makes me think they might just stitch something up to explain why Puck and Guts travel together before moving on to the Lost Children chapter.

Hopefully that's the case, as opposed to awkwardly combining Black Swordsman and Lost Children and using the hybrid as the starting point. I can imagine that would be a tantalising opportunity for the producers to save a bit of time and focus on the more "important" Conviction characters that actually carry through the story.

That's just me being a cynic though, I just really don't want to see Rosine and Jill get glossed over because the story is juggling them and the beginning stages of Guts and Puck's association.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 26, 2016, 09:58:56 AM
Hopefully that's the case, as opposed to awkwardly combining Black Swordsman and Lost Children and using the hybrid as the starting point.

Ideally they'd adapt both stories in their entirety...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on March 26, 2016, 10:38:53 AM
This one is more appealing than the first one for sure. But yeah, the coloring of Serpico and Farnese is quite disturbing. Unfortunately there is a lot of CGI, it was expected, but I'm looking forward to see more.
And this new Hirasawa song is nice.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on March 26, 2016, 12:59:42 PM
All of my concerns have been voiced by others. Glad I'm not the only one. That being said, I'm a little more optimistic than I was before if for no other reason than this is almost entirely new ground.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: IncantatioN on March 26, 2016, 01:07:39 PM
That background track is hella infectious. Can't wait to listen to all of it.

Curious to know the translation of what the narrators say in the trailer.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on March 26, 2016, 01:21:34 PM
I really like the bright colors and palette.  Miura has some beautiful things for the artists to bring to life and I'm glad it's not all grimdark.  I think Puck looks great too. 

What's up with the low frame rate effect  on the animation?  It has to be a stylistic choice.  The last shot of Guts walking towards the camera makes the effect obvious.  Is this a popular fad in anime at the moment?

In any case, if they give us a faithful adaption then Im not going to complain about the visuals....too much.

They are teasing material 17 volumes apart.  Good luck figuring out how this thing gets put together.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 26, 2016, 02:36:24 PM
Well to be honest I,m pretty much satisfied with what I've just watched! I try to stay up last night until it was out but I choked around 2 am and went to bed. But yeah nothing really bothered me that much.

I'm starting to be excited for that animation. Now my hopes are that they'll cover to story without rushing it too much. As Aaz said the best would be to adapt both for the arc properly.

And considering they showed pretty much everybody of the cast in the title sequence of the movies I would not be surprise if we skip a segment again. Hopefully they,ll start it at the right place. We'll see.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 26, 2016, 02:55:22 PM
Looks mostly acceptable, but did the Holy Iron Chain Knights join the circus?  Those colors... man who chose that palette.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 26, 2016, 04:29:23 PM
Hmm, my impression of that trailer is a bit mixed. It looks very low-budget -- perhaps the least visually ambitious Berserk adaptation so far? The sketchy effect on the textures looks like something I've seen in video game cutscenes.

However, I'm glad they got the resemblances for the characters pretty well down pat. The bright colors of the HICKs were indeed a little shocking to me, but Azan aside, these guys were never hardened warriors. They're an ornamental showpiece army assembled of young royals.

All that being said, I am excited to see how they animate this portion of the series and of course, if they'll manage to pull it off.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 26, 2016, 05:06:45 PM
The bright colors of the HICKs were indeed a little shocking to me, but Azan aside, these guys were never hardened warriors. They're an ornamental showpiece army assembled of young royals.

The colors themselves are fine, but I think it comes across as garish because they're so uniform, undetailed and brightly lit. The characters are supposed to be in a forest after having traveled for weeks or months, so this crude texturing gives them a "plastic" look more than a "textile" one. Of course, this also applies to every other part of the characters...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on March 26, 2016, 05:44:00 PM
Hmm, my impression of that trailer is a bit mixed. It looks very low-budget -- perhaps the least visually ambitious Berserk adaptation so far? The sketchy effect on the textures looks like something I've seen in video game cutscenes.

It is supposed to be hatching.  The effect only appears in the shadows.
(http://i.imgur.com/UVngWMV.png)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 26, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
It is supposed to be hatching.  The effect only appears in the shadows.
(http://i.imgur.com/UVngWMV.png)
I know, but the way it moves is a stylistic choice, and its odd. Resembles this: http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Final-Fantasy-Tactics-1-1280x800.jpg
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on March 26, 2016, 07:19:49 PM
I know, but the way it moves is a stylistic choice, and its odd. Resembles this: http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Final-Fantasy-Tactics-1-1280x800.jpg

I thought the same thing. I actually really liked the cutscenes in the Tactics rerelease, but I'm not sure I really like it in Berserk. It'll be nice to see it in action for longer than a fraction of a second or so to get a better idea of if it'll look ok (good?).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: mazinken on March 26, 2016, 07:45:16 PM
I don't how much control will Mr. Miura have over this project nonetheless knowing that he is attached to it in any kind give some hope.

Still wish they weren't using these awkward CGI but it is what it is that being said my biggest concern is the pacing I hope they don't skip any part of the story and that we get the whole Black Swordsman Arc followed up by the Lost Children Arc then the Conviction Arc.

Now after remembering the 1997 series  there is no way they can adapt the full story in just 24 episodes (which is rumored) without skipping and cutting corners unless this is going to be a long series guess waiting for more information is better than speculation.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on March 26, 2016, 08:32:15 PM
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I hope they don't skip any part of the story and that we get the whole Black Swordsman Arc followed up by the Lost Children Arc then the Conviction Arc.

The Lost Children is a chapter within the conviction arc, not a separate arc.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: mazinken on March 26, 2016, 08:57:07 PM
The Lost Children is a chapter within the conviction arc, not a separate arc.

You are correct what I meant is that I don't want them to skip the Lost Children story.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Skullgrin140 on March 26, 2016, 09:14:42 PM
In regards to this new trailer that just came out, I'm a little warmed up towards the animation a little. Granted the CG for some parts still looks unappealing as ever which that's no surprise at all, the 2D elements to this are a little bit appealing and I especially like how Puck is drawn. The track by Susumu Hirasawa has me pumped, it's a shame that he is only brought in for one insert song and he isn't doing the whole score, nonetheless I am tuning into this.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Toan on March 26, 2016, 09:36:03 PM
OMG guys, the narrator is the same as the 1997 anime(he was Void's VA as well back then). :void:

July can't be close enough. :D
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Skullgrin140 on March 26, 2016, 09:39:21 PM
OMG guys, the narrator is the same as the 1997 anime(he was Void's VA as well back then). :void:

July can't be close enough. :D

I'm glad Unshou Ishizuka came back, which means we might see more of Void at some point. Plus since Shinji Ogawa (who played him in the movies) passed away it feels right to bring Ishizuka back, wish the rest of the older seiyu was as well though.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on March 26, 2016, 10:07:06 PM
Despite there being a significant amount of CGI elements in the animation, the textures being used really do help make work a lot better visually. It's certainly doesn't look amazing but I think it is serviceable. Also if the 24 episode claim/rumor is true, I could definitely conceivably see the entirety of both the Black Swordsman and Conviction arcs being adapted.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on March 26, 2016, 11:36:12 PM
They were giving away postcards at the booth, and found this picture on twitter, and the second picture on Yahoo Japan Auction:

(http://i.imgur.com/gHJFVqh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/iCKONFh.jpg)

If the anime looks as good as that second postcard, I'll be quite pleased. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on March 26, 2016, 11:59:10 PM
Unless I am severely misremembering, that appears to be Collette in the second postcard, that seems like in addition to the skeleton scenes we've seen so far, further confirmation that the second episode from Volume 1 is likely getting adapted.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Oburi on March 27, 2016, 12:50:42 AM
Yea that episode probably will be animated the only problem is, like Aaz pointed out, it'll be some strange timeline where they mash different parts of the story into one. I have a feeling they're going to use parts of the first two episodes like meeting Puck, the skeletons in the woods, and weeve that directly into the Conviction Arc. Skipping the Snake Baron and The Count, which really sucks because the whole Count story line is practically begging to be adapted. It's the perfect introduction for a Black Swordsman era anime. It's got a little bit of everything and it culminates with our first meeting with the God Hand.

Who knows, maybe they will do that but I doubt it. I'll be very pleasanlty surprised if that's the case.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on March 27, 2016, 01:15:03 AM
They were giving away postcards at the booth, and found this picture on twitter, and the second picture on Yahoo Japan Auction:

(http://i.imgur.com/gHJFVqh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/iCKONFh.jpg)

If the anime looks as good as that second postcard, I'll be quite pleased. :guts:

I may or may not be the proud owner of some of these...  :beast:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 27, 2016, 01:23:34 AM
I may or may not be the proud owner of some of these...  :beast:

Did they just have those months, or are there more images?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on March 27, 2016, 01:48:14 AM
Yea that episode probably will be animated the only problem is, like Aaz pointed out, it'll be some strange timeline where they mash different parts of the story into one. I have a feeling they're going to use parts of the first two episodes like meeting Puck, the skeletons in the woods, and weeve that directly into the Conviction Arc. Skipping the Snake Baron and The Count, which really sucks because the whole Count story line is practically begging to be adapted. It's the perfect introduction for a Black Swordsman era anime. It's got a little bit of everything and it culminates with our first meeting with the God Hand.

Who knows, maybe they will do that but I doubt it. I'll be very pleasanlty surprised if that's the case.
If they are going to include Guts' meeting of Puck from the first tankōbon episode, I don't really see why they would also exclude the Snake Baron elements as well.
Also for Griffith's voice actor to still get billed as a main character, even if we assume there will be a couple of Golden Age arc flashbacks that I can't imagine that would be enough to get main character billing, and the only other times Griffith could have dialogue occurring are during episodes 127-128 from the beginning of the Birth Ceremony chapter and his appearance in the The Guardians of Desire episodes. So if the anime is indeed two cours and not one, I don't think it is that unlikely for The Guardians of Desire episodes to be adapted, especially for it's importance of showing Guts getting the Beherit.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on March 27, 2016, 02:04:22 AM
So, is the voice at the beginning Slan... or Rochin? Seeing as she is saying "It's futile. You cannot escape. You are ours." I assumed Slan. If so, her voice is so impish. I much preferred her sultry voice from the previous anime and games. Based on the voice alone, I'd guess Rochin, but cannot confirm if she ever spoke those words.

For that matter, having Akio Ōtsuka as Skully didn't fit, in my opinion -- and I'm a big fan of his.

Did they just have those months, or are there more images?

Just these three. At least that's what was in the pack we received. They countdown to the premier month of July, so I don't imagine there would be more.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 27, 2016, 04:30:49 AM
So here's my thoughts:

It looks like we're at least getting 'The Brand' episode, and the Puck footage implies we'll get the first one too... or a version of that bar scene. This is all good in my book, as I was expecting them to cut right to Lost Children and lose Black Sworsdsmen completely.  The story absolutely needs to show Guts on his Apostle hunting quest for a bit before he's interrupted by the Holy Iron Chain Knights. It sets up his character at this point, the hopelessness of his quest, and shows us the horrible world he lives in now with spirits after him.  So I'll give them respect for this so far.

We haven't seen any of the count, or Rosine for that matter, but we know that the season will be 24 episodes, and this is clearly from maybe 2 or three of them so I still have hope. The count was featured in the movies after all, so they may as well connect the two by having him hunt down a recognizable apostle. Perhaps even the female apostle that got Corkus.

I hate the look of the Holy Iron Chain Knight's leaders. The colors look garish and out of place. Why is Farnese, who's sigil is a clover, wearing purple? They look like they are out of some bad music video. I get that they are flashy nobles, but the Golden Age movies were able to do this without looking ridiculous.

Also, I'm not loving the style, either in the angles chosen, nor this hatching style. Both seem too showy and ultimately distract. Why does the whole fight with the skeletons have the camera seemingly attached to the Dragon Slayer? I can't see what's going on, how he wields it, how many he's facing. Maybe this is right after he kills Collete and it's supposed to feel frantic, but I am not digging it so far.

Also the weird sketchy shading.  This feels like a desperate choice to appeal to people who are against CG and it's super distracting. The style of the movies was fine in my opinion. Clean and strait forward. This, with it's extreme perspectives and bendy Dragon Slayers feels desperate to make it "Badass!"or "Hardcore!" Maybe as I see more this opinion will change, but it all feels more stylized than is needed. 

Despite my misgivings though, I'm happy to see this happening and in a series form no less. 24 episodes is plenty to get us to Griffith's incarnation, maybe the hill of the swords. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on March 27, 2016, 05:03:43 AM
I never saw the third movie.   Did they show Skully saving the day?  Did they show the aftermath?  I don't mind them merging black swordsman and conviction if they will stay faithful going forward but how are they gonna fill the viewers in on Casca, Godo, the dragon slayer, on and on.  There is a massively important part of the story that is going to be hard to squeeze into this amalgamation. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 27, 2016, 05:25:26 AM
It ends with Skully saving the day and taking guts to the cave with Rickert and Erica. Casca is insane and Guts runs off in hysterics when he remembers what happened. He runs until night fall and is attacked by ghosts, and Skully tells him what his new life is going to be. Guts fights all night until dawn, and then we see him leave the cottage with the Dragons Slayer as the Black Swordsman.  Godo is never seen.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on March 27, 2016, 06:22:10 AM
It ends with Skully saving the day and taking guts to the cave with Rickert and Erica. Casca is insane and Guts runs off in hysterics when he remembers what happened. He runs until night fall and is attacked by ghosts, and Skully tells him what his new life is going to be. Guts fights all night until dawn, and then we see him leave the cottage with the Dragons Slayer as the Black Swordsman.  Godo is never seen.

Thank you so much of filling me in!  After watching the first movie I decided ignorance is bliss haha. 

Sounds like they botched it a bit BUT the silver lining is that seems like a great outline for strategic flashbacks.  I recently read volume 17 (I think) where Farnese is about to be assaulted by the demon horse.  Guts has PTSD about the eclipse and Puck feels it, comments on it, and we are shown imagery from the eclipse.  That, for example, is a perfect time to break away and show Guts getting the Dragon Slayer or to explain how Casca was able to keep safe without Guts' protection.  As I just said, I'm willing to call all the material covered by the 97 anime and movies a wash and move forward as long as they get it right going forward. 

I know hardly anyone can be bothered to spare a kind word for the movie trilogy team, but you have to admit it is hard to pick up a story now when (forgive me) the "meat" has been shown but we are missing both "buns" (I'm sorry).  You know the folks producing this show want to get to the action and are not going to like opening their hip new show with backstory and exposition.  Remember, we were told the movies were the beginning of the adaption of the entire saga but they made foolish short sighted errors in choosing to focus on the exact same material the 97 anime covered while neglecting to fill the holes necessary to finish the saga.  I think Miura could write his way out of this problem with a wave of his hand but the question is will they follow his lead. 

On another note, I have been spewing posts all over this thread for the past couple of days and I hope it isn't wearing on anyone.  I'm just really excited about being able to show Berserk to people (like my wife) without asking them to read a comic book backwards  :ganishka: 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 27, 2016, 08:16:08 AM
Also for Griffith's voice actor to still get billed as a main character, even if we assume there will be a couple of Golden Age arc flashbacks that I can't imagine that would be enough to get main character billing, and the only other times Griffith could have dialogue occurring are during episodes 127-128 from the beginning of the Birth Ceremony chapter and his appearance in the The Guardians of Desire episodes. So if the anime is indeed two cours and not one, I don't think it is that unlikely for The Guardians of Desire episodes to be adapted, especially for it's importance of showing Guts getting the Beherit.

This is perillous logic. The reason Griffith is listed is likely because he's the main antagonist and they're expecting to animate more than just a season of this show. Either way I wouldn't use that to draw conclusions.

So, is the voice at the beginning Slan... or Rochin? Seeing as she is saying "It's futile. You cannot escape. You are ours." I assumed Slan. If so, her voice is so impish. I much preferred her sultry voice from the previous anime and games.  Based on the voice alone, I'd guess Rochin, but cannot confirm if she ever spoke those words.

It is obviously Slan. I think the voice fits her, it's just what they went for that's throwing you off: no music, no distortion on the voice, and the actress starting with a gentle, intimate tone (almost murmuring) before turning "impish" as you say. It's fitting of how she treats Guts though.

I hate the look of the Holy Iron Chain Knight's leaders. The colors look garish and out of place. Why is Farnese, who's sigil is a clover, wearing purple? They look like they are out of some bad music video. I get that they are flashy nobles, but the Golden Age movies were able to do this without looking ridiculous.

Like I said earlier on, her wearing purple isn't the problem, it's just how it's done.

(http://www.aazealh.net/Cards/Farnese_TGC_bk4_14.jpg)

Also the weird sketchy shading.  This feels like a desperate choice to appeal to people who are against CG and it's super distracting. The style of the movies was fine in my opinion. Clean and strait forward.

Nah, I think this is much better than what the movies did, even though it's far from perfect.

Sounds like they botched it a bit

Trust me, they botched it a lot. Skipping them after the first one was the right choice.

BUT the silver lining is that seems like a great outline for strategic flashbacks.  I recently read volume 17 (I think) where Farnese is about to be assaulted by the demon horse.  Guts has PTSD about the eclipse and Puck feels it, comments on it, and we are shown imagery from the eclipse.  That, for example, is a perfect time to break away and show Guts getting the Dragon Slayer or to explain how Casca was able to keep safe without Guts' protection.

I don't know man, those are a few panels in the manga, what you're proposing would really take the viewer away from the scene. I'd rather have it happen between scenes.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on March 27, 2016, 09:13:03 AM
Okay, I thought so. Aaz, does Slan ever utter those words? If so, when?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 27, 2016, 09:22:03 AM
Okay, I thought so. Aaz, does Slan ever utter those words? If so, when?

Nope, that line (and the following one from the male voice about the Brand) is from the specters who confront Guts in the woods when Colette is killed. My guess is that they're following the shortcut taken by the 1997 adaptation, meaning they'll have the God Hand appear to Guts phantasmagorically amidst the specters. We'll see how it goes (maybe the voice is just that of a female specter), but for now I'm not getting my hopes up about a full adaptation of the Black Swordsman arc.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on March 27, 2016, 02:32:13 PM
If we get the Black Swordsman, I feel like it'll be consolidated in some way. Like maybe putting the bar scene in the Count's city. I agree with Bob, it really would hurt the narrative if Guts isn't at least shown killing a couple apostles (like, more than Roshine) to evoke the pursuit of the HICKs.

I'd love to see both the Black Swordsman and Conviction arcs animated, but since we're obviously going to be getting into Conviction, I would hate for them to try and do too much and fail both. I think the less Black Swordsman (maybe two or three episodes?), the better chances we have of getting a decent Conviction.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Lithrael on March 27, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
The colors themselves are fine, but I think it comes across as garish because they're so uniform, undetailed and brightly lit. The characters are supposed to be in a forest after having traveled for weeks or months, so this crude texturing gives them a "plastic" look more than a "textile" one. Of course, this also applies to every other part of the characters...

Yes, this exactly.  It's the huge broad uninterrupted swaths of bright color that make them look off.  There's just too much of the plain base color and not enough shadow and no hilight.  The same color scheme would look fine if the cloth was being drawn by an animator instead of carelessly rendered by a machine.  A good CGI lighting/surfacing guy would change the lights/cloth settings to make sure the final renders didn't look this appallingly flat.  An animator would put in a lot more shadow to break it up.  Just look at any anime, the bright colors will be broken up by the shadow color in probably a good ten percent of the area.  They should only look like this in unusual circumstances like being hit by a frontal spotlight.  Which they aren't. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: False on March 27, 2016, 05:29:33 PM
Also the weird sketchy shading.  This feels like a desperate choice to appeal to people who are against CG and it's super distracting. The style of the movies was fine in my opinion. Clean and strait forward. This, with it's extreme perspectives and bendy Dragon Slayers feels desperate to make it "Badass!"or "Hardcore!" Maybe as I see more this opinion will change, but it all feels more stylized than is needed.

I kinda get what you're saying, but I vastly prefer this way over the way the movies did it. The movies CG came off as very flat to me with the lack of styling in them.

I'll agree about the bendy Dragonslayer being bad though, it just looks so off.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rex Nemorensis on March 28, 2016, 12:51:50 AM
Hey, longtime lurker, first time poster. This PV drew me out and I felt like sharing my overwrought opinions.

I feel a lot more positive about the whole project with this second PV. There are details in the second PV that make me strongly think that the first one was just from a proof of concept for the studio. The shading texture on the CG models is missing in the first PV, the CG model for Guts in PV2 has a different face and expressiveness than in the first, and more alarmingly they did change Guts' pauldrons in the second PV, but you'll notice that the one repeating shot of Guts swinging his sword between the two uses the Tower of Conviction pauldrons. Even the shot of Guts walking at the end looks acceptably fluid and less robotic, and hopefully we can limit the Terminator resemblances to all the skull-stomping that seems to be going on in the previews.   :ganishka:

The visuals between both previews look very low budget, and I'm mostly okay with that. The thing I'm most concerned about visually is how the hand-drawn animation is going to blend with the CG. I wish we'd seen more of the traditional animation, but the snippets we have seen make me pretty hopeful. The CG models are an awful lot more expressive and less jarring than in the movies, but I still feel that CG lacks the expressiveness of line weight and style that can only be achieved by hand drawing. Miura does such a great job during the Conviction arc of conveying Guts through nothing but his facial expression that I'd be upset if the anime failed to match up. In fact, subjectively speaking I'd say the art in the Conviction arc is probably the starkest and most appealing period of Miura's artwork for me.

The thing I can really praise about the promotional material we've been seeing is that it's really nailing the uncompromisingly bleak tone and atmosphere of post-eclipse Berserk really well. I really hate those fucking movies because they totally fail to convey the actual atmosphere of the Golden Age arc. The '97 series was a lot more successful at conveying the tone of the manga, but it treated the Golden Age like a historical soap opera, whereas the Black Swordsman and Conviction arcs are more like a series of action heavy, visceral, self-contained horror movies. It requires a really different emphasis in terms of the animation, and I think CG was probably the only cost effective way to do that. I'm feeling cautiously optimistic at this point, a lot more so than when they first announced the project. I've just got my fingers crossed that Miura's involvement in the scripts means that they can't fuck things up as hard as the trilogy did.

The characters, story, and themes of Berserk are so strong and unique while simultaneously feeling universal and archetypal that I desperately want to share it with more people in my life. My friends are busy people and it's really hard to get them to start reading an ongoing 38 volume long manga, so I've tried to screen the anime, and between the really dated visuals of the '97 series and the incoherent stupidity of the film trilogy it's really difficult to find a way to unapologetically demonstrate why I find Berserk so appealing. I'm just hoping this series is at least representative enough to attract more people to the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on March 28, 2016, 01:16:25 AM
This is perillous logic. The reason Griffith is listed is likely because he's the main antagonist and they're expecting to animate more than just a season of this show. Either way I wouldn't use that to draw conclusions.

Hmmm, I thought it was was a relatively safe assumption to think that main character billing for a voice actor generally implies that they will have a significant amount of dialogue, but if you don't think so I'll take your word for it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on March 28, 2016, 02:34:27 AM
Hmmm, I thought it was was a relatively safe assumption to think that main character billing for a voice actor generally implies that they will have a significant amount of dialogue, but if you don't think so I'll take your word for it.

Not necessarily. Primary antagonists (or important characters in general) are often billed as main characters, regardless of how much dialogue they have.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 28, 2016, 08:41:47 AM
Hmmm, I thought it was was a relatively safe assumption to think that main character billing for a voice actor generally implies that they will have a significant amount of dialogue, but if you don't think so I'll take your word for it.

Just consider Casca's dialogue.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: GiantSword Mufasa on March 28, 2016, 10:37:33 AM
I know this doesn't matter to most, but the sound track to the original Anima was absolutely the best part of the anime, in my opinion. I really hope they don't at least mess that up in this new series. Just a thought I had.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 28, 2016, 12:56:04 PM
I know this doesn't matter to most, but the sound track to the original Anima was absolutely the best part of the anime, in my opinion. I really hope they don't at least mess that up in this new series. Just a thought I had.

Contrary to your belief, I think this is a sensitive issue to a lot of fans (especially old ones). In this regard, I think having an insert song from Susumu Hirasawa is a good sign. As for the rest of the OST, we'll have to see, but I believe the responsability for the movies' terrible soundtracks lied more with the director than the composer. The choice of what track to use in what scene was often extremely perplexing to say the least.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: GiantSword Mufasa on March 28, 2016, 02:12:14 PM
Contrary to your belief, I think this is a sensitive issue to a lot of fans (especially old ones). In this regard, I think having an insert song from Susumu Hirasawa is a good sign. As for the rest of the OST, we'll have to see, but I believe the responsability for the movies' terrible soundtracks lied more with the director than the composer. The choice of what track to use in what scene was often extremely perplexing to say the least.

Aaz I always appreciate your insight.  The OST has a very special place in my heart. All we can all do is wait and see, or wait and listen, LOL
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Proj2501 on March 28, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
Jesus. Had 0 clue this was coming out. More. I want more.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: JMP on March 29, 2016, 12:51:04 AM
Honestly, I'm not too enthused. Berserk only deserves the best treatment, damn it, and this does not look like that to me so far.  Right now I'm looking forward way more to the next episode of the manga coming out than to this. I'll try to keep an open mind, though, and who knows? Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on March 29, 2016, 03:32:34 AM
Right now I'm looking forward way more to the next episode of the manga coming out than to this.

Who isn't?  :beast:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DarkSideWarrior on March 31, 2016, 11:05:20 PM
I'm impressed by how this 2nd trailer seems.
The CG is well done and the shading is particular...cool!
Here we can clearly see some scenes from episode 1 and so (aside some promotional postcard pics) we know for sure that they will animate the Puck's entering scene in the bar and Charlotte.
We have the Holy Iron Chain and Isidro too.
Now, I would really like to see the Count and the Snake Baron animated in this tv adaptation.
Studio 4c in the previous 3 movies animated 10 volumes (the Golden Age, from number 4 to number 13) in about 270 minutes (about 90 minutes per movie).
The Conviction Arc ends with volume 21, so if they would animate till the end of this part of the story, they have to adapt 11 volumes (21 - 10=11) in 600 minutes (24 episodes x 25 minutes).
So they have to insert about 1/2 volume per episode.
This assumed and thinking to how much they have cutted away in the movies, is it possible to have everything adapted (my heart is still crying for the lack of Wyald in the movies..) in this new tv anime??
They have more than the double of the space to animate about the same number of volumes...
I hope they will insert everything, the Count and Snake Baron too.
Do you guys think that the Conviction Arc could be decently adapted in 24 episodes adding Count and Snake Baron??
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on April 01, 2016, 12:48:47 AM
Studio 4c in the previous 3 movies animated 10 volumes (the Golden Age, from number 4 to number 13) in about 270 minutes (about 90 minutes per movie).
The Conviction Arc ends with volume 21, so if they would animate till the end of this part of the story, they have to adapt 11 volumes (21 - 10=11) in 600 minutes (24 episodes x 25 minutes)

I know you're eager to determine the scope of this project, but that's not a very reliable comparison. These are different studios, working with different sections of the manga and even different mediums, thus they'll inevitably be structured differently (TV shows usually end with cliffhangers every 22 minutes, and with movies it's different).

Short of it being revealed in an interview, the only thing we have to go on in this regard is what we're shown, which ... doesn't make a lot of sense at the moment. Put together, the two trailers show parts of Vol 1-Ep1 (Puck in bar), Vol 1-Ep2 (Guts exiting wagon and taking on the possessed skeletons), Vol 16 (HICKs) and Vol 18 (Isidro, likely chasing after Guts, given the time of day). The second promotional poster showed a scene from Vol 14 (windmill).

Based on just that limited material, it seems there could be a brief introductory section at the beginning, not dissimilar to the 1997 anime, skirting around certain scenes of the Black Swordsman, skipping the Count's section, jumping straight into Lost Children, which is where they'll spend the bulk of it. Of course, that doesn't explain the HICKs scene we see (from Vol 16) or Isidro.

There's also no logical end point with this direction, unless they're planning on adapting bits of Black Swordsman along with the entire Conviction Arc, which sounds extremely daunting, to me, particularly since this production seems to be a much more scaled back depiction of Berserk. I just don't see this team animating the fall of Albion, and all the insane visuals that would demand of this production.

But then, we've truly only seen what amounts to about 25 seconds of footage...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on April 01, 2016, 04:18:00 AM
Let's also not forget that the promotional videos for the movies had a reborn Griffith and Guts as the Black Swordsman.  This all turned out to be proof of concept demo footage that was actually never in the movies at all. So even the clips we have available are no guarantee of where they're going.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MrFlibble on April 01, 2016, 11:24:09 AM
Well they made the hilt black, preorder cancelled. It looks alright though, it's hard to judge the quality of the 3d animation for me since we only get a few seconds of each shot, at least they're doing some rotoscoping too. Having Isidro meet up with Guts in a forest doesn't look promising, looks like they're going to screw up the canon again, probably have him tail Guts through his misty valley journey or something.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on April 01, 2016, 01:12:55 PM
Now that I think about it... There's not necessarily any indication we'll even get Lost Children. None of Rochine's minions, Jill or Rochine herself, nor any Misty Valley imagery. It could just skip from the Black Swordsman bits to after Misty Valley.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Griffith on April 05, 2016, 08:56:21 PM
Well, there's not much to work with here but it certainly looks more promising than the other trailers, including the movies. I like the cross hatch effect, it just wish what they were applying it to looked better, but it was nice to see more recent familiar faces, even if their colors seem a bit odd. I don't mind so much because I have zero expectations for them to succeed at such subtleties; just don't completely cock up the whole thing amd ill be pleasantly surprised. See, I'm an optomist.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DarkSideWarrior on April 05, 2016, 09:31:56 PM
It looks alright though, it's hard to judge the quality of the 3d animation for me since we only get a few seconds of each shot
Yeah, that's true, but do not forgive the ugly quality of the CGI animation seen in the movies.
If compared to that the quality of the 3D I can see in the 2nd trailer is far far better.
I just did not like the quality of one scene into the 1st trailer. Guts entrance at the start of it. I thought that they would do another ugly anime...
Even the curved Dragonslayer was not a touch of perfection, but it last for just one second, so...
The second trailer let me see a better quality, so I'm happy about this.
Based on just that limited material, it seems there could be a brief introductory section at the beginning, not dissimilar to the 1997 anime, skirting around certain scenes of the Black Swordsman, skipping the Count's section, jumping straight into Lost Children, which is where they'll spend the bulk of it. Of course, that doesn't explain the HICKs scene we see (from Vol 16) or Isidro.
Of course, maybe they can show us something in the trailers that we will not see animated, just like Studio 4c did with the movies. In that occasion they toke some animated scenes from the Pilot movie they showed to Miura in order to convince him to give the green light to the production of the movies and created 15 seconds trailers. Maybe they was thinking to go on by making some other Films.
That said, this time I don't think that this will happen again.
Now, with a bigger amount of minutes they could, oh sorry..they should animate everything. They have all the space to insert all the things!
If not, I just can't catch the necessity to switch from movies to tv anime.
I think they can produce a better and most complete adaptation from now on and doing this In a cheap way. Less expensive than to create any movie.
That's my opinion, and this is the motivation for me to just hope it will happen.
Berserk is a unique manga, a Masterpiece, and really deserve that.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Saephon on April 07, 2016, 03:19:53 AM
One of the nice things about the movies is that they've made me lower my expectations to basically zero.  :iva: If this new series does ANYTHING right, I'll be happy. That being said, I agree with Walter that we really have no idea what it's going to even cover plot-wise. The promotional material is just too scarce and ambiguous.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on April 07, 2016, 03:48:29 PM
at least they're doing some rotoscoping too.

I don't think there's any rotoscoping going on here.

Having Isidro meet up with Guts in a forest doesn't look promising, looks like they're going to screw up the canon again, probably have him tail Guts through his misty valley journey or something.

This is sadly very plausible. Maybe have him escape from random bandits or even from the HICKs without showing the Bakiraka at all.

Yeah, that's true, but do not forgive the ugly quality of the CGI animation seen in the movies.
If compared to that the quality of the 3D I can see in the 2nd trailer is far far better.
I just did not like the quality of one scene into the 1st trailer. Guts entrance at the start of it. I thought that they would do another ugly anime...

You probably shouldn't expect this to win any beauty contest.

Now, with a bigger amount of minutes they could, oh sorry..they should animate everything. They have all the space to insert all the things!
If not, I just can't catch the necessity to switch from movies to tv anime.
I think they can produce a better and most complete adaptation from now on and doing this In a cheap way. Less expensive than to create any movie.

Typically, cheaper doesn't mean better quality. I don't mean to be a downer, but if you expect too much you'll just end up disappointed.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DarkSideWarrior on April 08, 2016, 01:46:00 AM
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Typically, cheaper doesn't mean better quality. I don't mean to be a downer, but if you expect too much you'll just end up disappointed.
Well, no. I don't have any expectation about, it's just that I see a better potential in this new tv anime than the one I saw in the previous movies.
I like much more what I've now seen in about 60 seconds of animation (the 2 trailers..) than everything I saw in the movies.
I hope you can understand me...here I see something more concerning what happens in the manga. And even the pace could be better than the one of the movies.
That's all...

EDIT: here you can se e a better quality version of the 2016 Amime Japan postcards..
(http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/5725d9cfdd02d0623ccbb959eb8e95b01459469904_full.jogging)
I like so much the 3rd image, the one with Guts and Colette...come on July, where are you???
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on April 09, 2016, 02:54:19 PM
Here is Miura's comment on the anime website (http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00100000.html), courtesy of puella.

Quote from: Miura Kentarou
This is the first animation of "Black Swordsman Guts", which myself and the fans have been waiting for impatiently.
Please expect it.
I've crossed my fingers to see how the wielding of the Dragon Slayer will be expressed in the animation.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on April 09, 2016, 05:29:51 PM
I like so much the 3rd image, the one with Guts and Colette...come on July, where are you???

Guts looks pretty good in that shot.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on April 10, 2016, 01:08:02 AM
Just struck me how much Guts looks like Fuse from Jin-Roh in some of those shots.

Here is Miura's comment on the anime website (http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00100000.html), courtesy of puella.

Think we all have our fingers crossed, Miura-sensei...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Griffith on April 11, 2016, 01:42:24 PM
Hey, those images look pretty good (though Guts face is a bit wonky). Of course, it's easy to do stills, but I'm also pleased by what's being depicted: Puck, Colette, a reasonable depiction of his shoulder guards. It is possible to do more with less money if they simply have a better attention to detail, or can't afford to deviate.

Here is Miura's comment on the anime website (http://berserk-anime.com/news/index00100000.html), courtesy of puella.

Quote from: Miura Kentarou
This is the first animation of "Black Swordsman Guts", which myself and the fans have been waiting for impatiently.
Please expect it.
I've crossed my fingers to see how the wielding of the Dragon Slayer will be expressed in the animation.

I like his aligning with the fans' frustrations and the subtle shade he's throwing at the previous animations! :beast: Even that final statement about the current animation is far from an unconditional endorsement. I put it into Google Subtext Translation and this came out:

"Like the rest of you I think it's about damn time they did the goddamn Black Swordsman arc.
It's happening either way.
I just hope they don't fuck it up."
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on April 11, 2016, 07:07:15 PM
It seems to me that this quote speaks to his level of involvement in the series. Or lack thereof.

Fingers crossed indeed.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kenshi R on April 29, 2016, 07:47:13 PM
Don't know why that CGI thing

they kinda fcked it up...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on May 11, 2016, 01:42:57 AM
http://berserk-anime.com/special/ar/index00200000.html

A Berserk AR (augmented reality) "game" launched on the official anime site a few days ago. It requires you to download an app called COCOAR2, which the site links to (Android and iOS only). Once it's installed, let me save you about 5 minutes: Go into the app's settings and change the database from Taiwan to Japan. Then you should be able to click on the dragon slayer image on the site, and scan it using the app. It should only take a few seconds.

Afterwards, a 3D dragonslayer model will be superimposed on the screen, and you can manipulate it to take pictures of you slicing up your favorite pets, or using the DS to serve them treats (http://i.imgur.com/SXYIeut.jpg). The choice is yours!  (http://i.imgur.com/U4m9YqI.jpg)

There will supposedly be three other 3D models (http://berserk-anime.com/special/ar/list00000000.html) from the upcoming anime that they'll upload soon. I'm guessing one will be Puck, and that'll be nice to see up close.

In other site updates, we now have a scheduled time for the premiere (http://www.wowow.co.jp/pg_info/detail/108685/index.php). Unknown when Crunchyroll will begin streaming it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on May 11, 2016, 08:20:14 AM
The website's been updated with a "world" and character" tab with some written information. Its all in Japanese, except for English variants of the character names which are a bit nonconventional.

Guts-Guts
Puck-Pack
Farnese-Falnase
Serpico-Celpikko
Isidro-Isydro
Azan-Azan
Casca-Casca
Griffith-Grifis
Knight of Skeleton :iva:-Skull knight
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on May 11, 2016, 08:44:41 AM
The website's been updated with a "world" and character" tab with some written information. Its all in Japanese, except for English variants of the character names which are a bit nonconventional.

That thing has been there for a while actually, at least a couple of months I'd say. Nothing unusual unfortunately, third parties regularly mess these things up pretty bad because they don't bother checking. Back in the day, even Guts' name wasn't spelled properly.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on May 11, 2016, 11:33:15 PM
The staff commented on the new Berserk anime.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/05/11/berserk-staff-and-cast-comment-on-this-summers-new-anime
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DasBouf on May 12, 2016, 12:53:58 AM
I'm not going to let CG hamper my enjoyment even if there's a lot of it. I'm just so very happy to see Farnese animated  :serpico:
She's a favorite of mine because I relate to her fucking up all the time,and really feel for her.  :farnese: Fingers crossed we get an official Farny figure
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on May 12, 2016, 05:52:33 PM
The staff commented on the new Berserk anime.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/05/11/berserk-staff-and-cast-comment-on-this-summers-new-anime

Those are just translations of the comments laid out here: http://berserk-anime.com/special/index00150000.html (http://berserk-anime.com/special/index00150000.html)
Still, it's nice that NBC Universal went through the trouble of translating them for Crunchyroll, shows they care about the international audience. Although it's weird they didn't include Miura's own comment (which I posted earlier in this thread).

I'm not going to let CG hamper my enjoyment even if there's a lot of it. I'm just so very happy to see Farnese animated  :serpico:
She's a favorite of mine because I relate to her fucking up all the time,and really feel for her.  :farnese: Fingers crossed we get an official Farny figure

What if they don't portray her character faithfully? Would you let that hamper your enjoyment?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DasBouf on May 12, 2016, 06:27:18 PM
What if they don't portray her character faithfully? Would you let that hamper your enjoyment?
Yes, but I won't be too broken up about it. I always have the manga to fall back on. I never get my expectations up too high for adaptations of properties I like.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Griffith on May 12, 2016, 06:33:05 PM
it's weird they didn't include Miura's own comment (which I posted earlier in this thread).

Perhaps my interpretation of that comment hits close to the mark. :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: IncantatioN on May 14, 2016, 02:20:52 PM
Image courtesy of Ryu O

(http://i.imgur.com/mGMkfuU.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: hearTes on May 14, 2016, 02:43:50 PM
Image courtesy of Ryu O

(http://i.imgur.com/mGMkfuU.jpg)

The character models are looking good, but the first PV keeps haunting me.  :magni:

It seems that only the armor is CG, their actual bodies look like traditional hand-drawn 2D.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Earthlingzing on May 14, 2016, 11:41:48 PM
The character models are looking good, but the first PV keeps haunting me.  :magni:

It seems that only the armor is CG, their actual bodies look like traditional hand-drawn 2D.
Pretty sure that everything is CG, they're just using 2D for the promo art(and some stills in the anime).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: IncantatioN on May 16, 2016, 04:20:47 AM
Late night listening to the new (awesome and fun) podcast I'm in the middle of and stumbled on news on the opening song for the anime. According to HMV's website (http://www.hmv.co.jp/newsdetail/article/1605131019/), the band 9mm Parabellum Bullet will release the single on July 20. The single is 90 seconds long, it's called Inferno and they released an album cover for the single.

(http://i.imgur.com/Bxb9Oj4.jpg)

I like the cover design overall aka the color, flame design to sync with the title of the track, placement of the brand and the DS, the circle design kind of looks like the moon (craters for skulls n all ^_^). 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DasBouf on May 16, 2016, 04:42:20 AM
Late night listening to the new (awesome and fun) podcast I'm in the middle of and stumbled on news on the opening song for the anime. According to HMV's website (http://www.hmv.co.jp/newsdetail/article/1605131019/), the band 9mm Parabellum Bullet will release the single on July 20. The single is 90 seconds long, it's called Inferno and they released an album cover for the single.

(http://i.imgur.com/Bxb9Oj4.jpg)

I like the cover design overall aka the color, flame design to sync with the title of the track, placement of the brand and the DS, the circle design kind of looks like the moon (craters for skulls n all ^_^).

Damn this looks really cool. I'm excited to hear it
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tabris on May 16, 2016, 08:11:45 PM
I love the way the characters look in that image. But in motion is going to be such a different story.

Not really getting my hopes up but at minimum they look awesome on a magazine scan. Hurray.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Bandreus on May 17, 2016, 11:36:27 AM
In other site updates, we now have a scheduled time for the premiere (http://www.wowow.co.jp/pg_info/detail/108685/index.php). Unknown when Crunchyroll will begin streaming it.

That's not the schedule for the anime's premiere.

From what I can understand from the crappy google translation, it sounds like they're gonna air a documentary/behind the scenes about the anime's production, on June the 18th.

The anime is gonna premiere in July, as it has been known for a long time already. A proper date/time-slot hasn't been announced yet, s far as my knowledge goes.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on May 17, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
Yep, you're right. I meant to correct that, but forgot...  :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Bandreus on May 18, 2016, 07:14:29 AM
It's fine! I just stumbled upon that link and thought I might as well clarify that bit to save other people from being confused  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on May 26, 2016, 02:12:17 PM
Someone posted this on Reddit.  Thought I'd share.

Guts Character Design:

http://imgur.com/iY6OmoJ
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: hearTes on May 26, 2016, 02:58:36 PM
Someone posted this on Reddit.  Thought I'd share.

Guts Character Design:

http://imgur.com/iY6OmoJ
Looks good overall, though the thighs seem a bit confusing, is that supposed to be leather? and why are lines running around it?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on May 26, 2016, 03:19:57 PM
Looks good overall, though the thighs seem a bit confusing, is that supposed to be leather? and why are lines running around it?

The lines that you are seeing are the stitches on the leather pieces.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on May 26, 2016, 05:01:04 PM
Looks like we got a release date for the anime!  :ubik:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-26/new-berserk-tv-anime-july-1-premiere-character-visuals-revealed/.102504 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on May 26, 2016, 08:08:04 PM
Looks like we got a release date for the anime!  :ubik:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-26/new-berserk-tv-anime-july-1-premiere-character-visuals-revealed/.102504

Which means the release of Vol 38 on June 24 and (possibly!) the return of a new episode of Berserk on the same day will all serve as big ads for the premiere the following week.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: luizao on May 26, 2016, 09:22:13 PM
Well if I'm not mistaken manga should return soon too, so July could be a great Berserk month  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on May 26, 2016, 09:34:58 PM
My body is not ready for all this upcoming Berserk stuff  :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aul on May 27, 2016, 07:14:25 PM
(http://im.ziffdavisinternational.com/t/ign_gr/screenshot/default/cjxzjhyuoaaabql_cuej.960.jpg)

What's up with that face? I don't like it.. The proportions seem wrong :/
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: luizao on May 27, 2016, 10:40:20 PM
I have reached a point where I don't care anymore about CGI or character design, I just want the series to be similar to the manga storywise (anime 97 with SK  :SK:).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 27, 2016, 10:44:56 PM
My body is not ready for all this upcoming Berserk stuff  :magni:

Don't worry you'll mainly need your eyes and ears for the upcoming mindblowing berserk storm! I'm getting anxious and excited.

I wonder if we'll get a nice batch of regular monthly. At least a batch of 4-6 episode cool be nice. Even better if it's really really returning to the monthly releases. Either way I'll be glad with what I get.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 04, 2016, 05:00:56 PM
The opening theme, Inferno, by 9MM Parabellum Bullet (without vocals) was spotted on Reddit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NrWCxZtN7o

Pretty generic sounding...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on June 04, 2016, 05:47:32 PM
Um, wow. Unimpressive indeed. Why do we keep getting uncharacteristic opening themes to this series? First "Tell Me Why" and now this? For a season tackling one of the darkest sections of the manga, the music, in no way, reflects the mood, atmosphere, or narrative of the Conviction arc.

Maybe they are trying to appeal to a broader audience? I'm just completely flabbergasted by this, though admitted, unsurprised.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 04, 2016, 06:19:24 PM
Um, wow. Unimpressive indeed. Why do we keep getting uncharacteristic opening themes to this series?

On the contrary, I think this is pretty much par for the course when it comes to opening themes for animated series. It's nothing special, but it does the job for the 40-50 seconds the intro is probably going to last. Plus this is without vocals and is likely only part of the whole thing, like a teaser. Either way I wouldn't compare it to Tell Me Why, which was terrible by all standards.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 04, 2016, 07:30:45 PM
Eh I like it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 04, 2016, 09:47:42 PM
Walter just pointed out to me that it might actually simply be a placeholder used to convey news of the song. That's how the band seems to do these things (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWizv9DILY8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWizv9DILY8)).
Oh well, only a few more days till we find out!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on June 05, 2016, 12:18:28 AM
2D concept art to 3D design.
(http://i.imgur.com/IGA6h1x.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7eRvpj7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yuMs0LY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/DgmETWn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hdYJRDk.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/S1zD6CP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/dMEZovf.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/zS0Vi3V.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/POQ6kHf.jpg)

Source: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/06/04-1/berserk-animes-adaptation-from-2d-concept-art-to-3d-character-design-showcased-plus-end-theme-announced
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on June 05, 2016, 07:39:45 AM
I spy a post-holy-see Farnese, a little bit more evidence this series is going through all of conviction.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 05, 2016, 11:24:05 AM
I spy a post-holy-see Farnese, a little bit more evidence this series is going through all of conviction.

That happens at the beginning of Millennium Falcon. Sometimes character designers do weird stuff. I mean, did we ever see Guts do this in the movies (http://otaku.com/files/images/fullsize/85540Y2.JPG)...?

There's also Puck's wide eyed stare from when Farnese is straddling Guts in V17.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Resonance on June 05, 2016, 02:26:01 PM
On the contrary, I think this is pretty much par for the course when it comes to opening themes for animated series. It's nothing special, but it does the job for the 40-50 seconds the intro is probably going to last. Plus this is without vocals and is likely only part of the whole thing, like a teaser. Either way I wouldn't compare it to Tell Me Why, which was terrible by all standards.

I thought Tell Me Why was quite decent to be honest, mostly because of the huge contrast of what was shown on screen (apart from the generic wind blowing stuff) and the music which was playing. I remember when I showed a friend the anime and whilst the opening was playing everything was alright, however when the dandelion was burning he looked towards me with a face that was quite unsettled. The anime opening was incredibly deceptive and I feel it was done so for a reason.


Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 05, 2016, 05:17:56 PM
I remember when I showed a friend the anime and whilst the opening was playing everything was alright, however when the dandelion was burning he looked towards me with a face that was quite unsettled.

Is there any chance your friend was... I dunno, maybe 4-5 years old?

That opening is shit. They clearly made it in a vacuum, and didn't have any great ideas for what they were supposed to be featuring. What's Berserk, someone would ask the animator. I dunno, it's about a guy with a big sword who does acrobatics in a field?

Consider the possibilities, the themes that revolve around Berserk, the imagery. Is any of that reflected by Guts looking like he's posing for a yearbook photo in a field, by himself?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hanma_Baki on June 05, 2016, 05:52:51 PM
...Guts looking like he's posing for a yearbook photo in a field...

Haha yeah thats basically what I thought as well :ganishka: The whole opening seems more like something an abridged series would make as a joke. Take away the sword and it might as well be an opening to one of those generic school anime shows.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nildin on June 06, 2016, 06:44:09 PM
Nagi Yanagi Performs Berserk TV Anime's Ending Theme Song (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-06/nagi-yanagi-performs-berserk-tv-anime-ending-theme-song/.102909)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on June 10, 2016, 10:11:53 AM
A couple new pieces of info just landed.

First: new preview video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2-9HwHlpw ...ugh (https://j.gifs.com/pYm7J2.gif).

Also... this:

(http://berserk-anime.com/core_sys/images/news/00000023/block/00000024/sn_00000012.jpg?1465555677)

 :mozgus:

There were more cast announcements too (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-10/berserk-tv-anime-teaser-video-previews-9mm-parabellum-bullet-theme-song/.103077). Godot, Silat, the Tapasa (only one voice is credited), Luca, Erika, Nina and Jerome are confirmed.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2016, 10:58:03 AM
Well, they saved it for the big reveal: but theyre really doing it all, from Black Swordsman through Conviction. Visuals look very rough,even though they've revisited and polished the scenes shown in earlier videos. I still can't get behind this visual style.

Honestly, I have no idea how they're going to cram that much material into 24eps.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: RaffoBaffo on June 10, 2016, 11:18:21 AM
R.I.P. Farnese's Nipples
[1999-2016]

BTW, I think they will skip Lost Children.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Earthlingzing on June 10, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
The lack of Lost Children scenes in this is worrying.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Uriel on June 10, 2016, 11:27:01 AM
R.I.P. Farnese's Nipples
[1999-2016]

BTW, I think they will skip Lost Children.

Maybe they edited them out for the PV? :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MrFlibble on June 10, 2016, 11:44:29 AM
A couple new pieces of info just landed.

First: new preview video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2-9HwHlpw ...ugh (https://j.gifs.com/pYm7J2.gif).

Also... this:

(http://berserk-anime.com/core_sys/images/news/00000023/block/00000024/sn_00000012.jpg?1465555677)

 :mozgus:

There were more cast announcements too (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-10/berserk-tv-anime-teaser-video-previews-9mm-parabellum-bullet-theme-song/.103077). Godot, Silat, the Tapasa (only one voice is credited), Luca, Erika, Nina and Jerome are confirmed.




Guts sure is struggling against those Iron Chain Knights despite all those injuries he doesn't have. C'MON GUTS SWING THAT SWORD.



Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: RaffoBaffo on June 10, 2016, 11:46:13 AM
Doubtful, the only thing we've seen from the Lost Children arc is the haunted tree, and no Jill, yet minor characters like the priests daughter appears. They've probably cut it.
I think he's talking about the missing nipples  :troll:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: asic on June 10, 2016, 12:24:21 PM
I still cannot get over how poor the shadows on the characters look. The cheap overlay effect is not even aligned to the characters, it literally looks like it is just an effect laid on top. Makes it look sloppy and cheap.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2016, 12:56:03 PM
(http://berserk-anime.com/core_sys/images/news/00000023/block/00000024/sn_00000012.jpg?1465555677)

This should have been the visual they teased from the very beginning... But why is Puck's body contorted like that? Did Guts skewer him?

Anyway, this visual is far more inspiring than the new trailer. Of course, the visuals don't exactly align with what's shown...

It's hard to say for certain, but at the top edges of the image, it looks like the shadow of the tower. Or the hand the tower is reduced to.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on June 10, 2016, 12:57:18 PM
I'm going to get really sad if they skip Lost Children.  :judo: That's my favorite part of the story.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rhombaad on June 10, 2016, 01:02:34 PM
Rochine and Jill's names are conspicuously absent from the cast list, and the only thing in the PV from Lost Children is the possessed tree, so I think it's safe to say it's being skipped, which is extremely disappointing. I can't stand the animation style, either. How hard is it to get an anime adaptation of Berserk right?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2016, 01:03:08 PM
I'm going to get really sad if they skip Lost Children.  :judo: That's my favorite part of the story.
Rochine and Jill's names are conspicuously absent from the cast list, and the only thing in the PV from Lost Children is the possessed tree, so I think it's safe to say it's being skipped, which is extremely disappointing. I can't stand the animation style, either. How hard is it to get an anime adaptation of Berserk right?

We won't know for sure until we see the first few episodes. Just a few days ago, I was sure they wouldn't attempt to cram Black Swordsman + Lost Children + Birth Ceremony into one series. But here we are, and we've got proof that they're doing just that.

Based purely on what we've been shown, I think it's possible for them to do something like this: Cover Black Swordsman, but cut out the Count portion. Cover Lost Children, but cut out the Rochine portion. I have no fucking idea how they're going to cover the scope of the Birth Ceremony. None.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on June 10, 2016, 01:48:11 PM
Welp, my expectations and hopes have officially been dashed. There isn't much in this PV that looks promising.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: hearTes on June 10, 2016, 02:07:21 PM
Rochine and Jill's names are conspicuously absent from the cast list, and the only thing in the PV from Lost Children is the possessed tree, so I think it's safe to say it's being skipped, which is extremely disappointing. I can't stand the animation style, either. How hard is it to get an anime adaptation of Berserk right?

Unfathomably hard apparently  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 10, 2016, 02:20:00 PM
God, am I the only one that have a little hype about that animation? I don't have high expectation but I was not that much disappointed by what I saw. I'm not gonna lie to myself and pretend nothing was change, but I'm glad to finally have some Black Swordsman stuff and not the golden age again.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2016, 02:24:34 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/V83IAAV.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/h7VYX34.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/shdShdg.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/qS24gUD.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/RS9lQLd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Qw7B1Yi.png)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on June 10, 2016, 02:30:43 PM
Super excited to see new footage!  Here are my thoughts:

- So awesome to see Casca, Mozgus and co in the promo image.  PUMPED.
- Loved hearing the narrators voice at the end.  It brought me back!
- Fav part of the trailer was Farnese and Guts on the horse.  I will be okay with the lack of nipples.  There was a lack of Griffith's pecker in the 97 anime lol.
- 9mm song is okay for me.  Sounds generic to me, but I don't really follow much JRock.  Also, the opening isn't too key for me.  I'm more interested to hear the full Susumu song as well as the actual in-anime soundtrack.  That will definitely have more of an impact of my viewing enjoyment.
- The cross hatching for the shadows are a bit overdone in my opinion.  It looks good in some scenes, but seems unnecessary in others.  Maybe it's a matter of getting used to.  As of now though, judging from this trailer, I think it would have looked better without it.  But we'll see.
- The CG animation looks okay to me.  I have never been too sensitive on this topic though.
- My biggest concern here, however, is what will happen to the Lost Children arc.  I love all the arcs in Berserk, but will sorely miss LC if it's omitted.  I hope that's not the case!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Eluvei on June 10, 2016, 02:43:55 PM
Wow, my expectations were low but that managed to surprise me. The hatching on top of the shading is distractingly ugly, the colors are maybe even blander than the movie trilogy's, and that music. Don't think I'm gonna bother with it, might as well watch fan-made flashtoons on YouTube if I'm going that low.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on June 10, 2016, 02:45:15 PM
So season finale is Femto incarnated.  Season 2 will open with the group reaching Skellig. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on June 10, 2016, 02:49:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/V83IAAV.png)

In a way, this looks like really bad rotoscoping to me. Farnese is so flat, no depth, and this is made all the more apparent now that she's sitting next to my (stupendously made) avatar.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2016, 02:53:28 PM
So season finale is Femto incarnated.  Season 2 will open with the group reaching Skellig.

Could have been worse. In the PS2 cutscenes, Femto was incarnated during the Eclipse  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Bender on June 10, 2016, 03:02:11 PM
I'm doing my best to remain positive, but I cant help but notice that Guts' arm is fine and that he does not have his hand wrapped around the dragon slayer while fighting the HIC's.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
I'm doing my best to remain positive, but I cant help but notice that Guts' arm is fine and that he does not have his hand wrapped around the dragon slayer while fighting the HIC's.

(http://i.imgur.com/RS9lQLd.png)

Why would he be? He presumably hasn't faced off against any dangerous apostles recently.  :void:

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 10, 2016, 03:10:28 PM
Holy shit those Holy Iron Chain Knights are bright, are they glowing?!  I think that scene might actually hurt my eyes.  It looks like they are making a lot of really cool scenes not very cool anymore.  The tree looks like shit, seriously, not to mention the Demon Child what the fuck.  While I still wouldn't say this looks quite as bad as the movies yet in general, seems like more of the same crap.  I'm starting to get the impression they are not going to have any Black Swordsman stuff at all and just use The Brand scene and the tree as introduction material and go right into the Binding Chain.  Great!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 10, 2016, 03:15:16 PM
not to mention the Demon Child what the fuck.

Yeah that's one of the things I was disappointed. He looks like a jelly fish...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Bender on June 10, 2016, 03:32:01 PM
Yeah that's one of the things I was disappointed. He looks like a jelly fish...

I want to say that the distorted demon child is from Guts' dream in the Black Swordsman Arc.  We even see a shot of Guts running through what looks like a tunnel with out any armor on.  What I can't figure out is if we are seeing a reflection of Guts because he is missing the wrong eye.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on June 10, 2016, 03:50:05 PM
Oh my... seriously, what is this shit ? Why do they have to butcher everything like that ? The 2D parts are fine but look at that 3D... it just looks fucking horrible and ridiculous.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 10, 2016, 03:52:56 PM
What I can't figure out is if we are seeing a reflection of Guts because he is missing the wrong eye.

Yes, it's a reflection. It's probably a dream sequence (possibly the one in Vol 1 where he's running down the corridor). The child is rising out of the water.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on June 10, 2016, 03:53:50 PM
My expectations were so low, not even this kind of shitty animation was able disappoint me  :guts:
More than anything, as Qalter also pointed out on the thread and in the podcast, I'm more so interested in how they will handle the material in those 24 episodes. As others have said, Lost Children and the portion with the count seems to be cut out.

Also just saw this. It's from the newest YA. Nothing really special
Courtesy of Ryu O.

(http://i.imgur.com/b2IsuAC.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 10, 2016, 04:46:22 PM
Yes, it's a reflection. It's probably a dream sequence (possibly the one in Vol 1 where he's running down the corridor). The child is rising out of the water.

I missed to notice it. I'll recheck again. Thank you for the clarification, I hope it is indeed from the dream sequence.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 10, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
Well at least now that we know the visuals are SHIT, we can focus on guessing how badly they'll butcher the story. Presumably Miura's involvement should alleviate the damage, but still... I'm bracing myself for some real ugliness here, and so should everyone.

Otherwise I don't have much to add to what's already been said, although I have to say I'm in awe at how much of a shoestring budget they must have for this to be the result.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Henry Spencer on June 10, 2016, 09:03:45 PM
Well that looks horrendous. Think I'll just play the PS2 game instead since I haven't yet and honestly, looking at the CG sequences in that, they actually look better to me than this mess. And to think the anime movies may actually have better visuals than this...and the thought of the lack of the Lost Children chapter. :magni:

My guess is Luka and Nina will have 5 second cameos too. There's just too much to cover in such a short span of episodes. Why is it so fucking hard to do a decent adaptation of Berserk?

It's weird since the concepts actually look rather okay but the CG animation is just. :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: BlessedAdjudicator on June 10, 2016, 10:08:02 PM
I can honestly say that this trailer really ruined the small amount of hype I had for the show after seeing the second PV. I mean, I'll probably watch it anyway, since I'm not really excited for anything else this coming season, but I'll be expecting to face a large amount of cringe. I guess its likely that they'll fuck with the story, too.  :judo: 

Funnily enough, though, they did happen to fix perhaps the most superficial complaint most people had about the last trailers: the Dragonslayer no longer bends. 10/10 guys. I guess that means the whole show is going to be super faithful to the manga.

But really, what do all of us devoted fans of Miura's masterpiece here on this website actually have riding on this adaptation? I think its clear by now that the normies don't really deserve Berserk, based on these abortions (sorry, adaptations) that always end up super messy. I think we should just all be thankful for volume 38, the end to the hiatus, and the 37 masterful volumes of work we have up to this point.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 10, 2016, 10:47:27 PM
But really, what do all of us devoted fans of Miura's masterpiece here on this website actually have riding on this adaptation? I think its clear by now that the normies don't really deserve Berserk, based on these abortions (sorry, adaptations) that always end up super messy. I think we should just all be thankful for volume 38, the end to the hiatus, and the 37 masterful volumes of work we have up to this point.

I can't disagree with that, but it's not so simple. When they didn't animate Berserk for over a decade, I was fine with it. The manga has always been enough for me. However now they are animating it, and try as I may it's fundamentally hard to not care at all about the fact those adaptations suck. With each iteration the producers keep saying it's going to be great, pumping up the marketing and all, and then they shit in our mouths. No one's dying over it, but I think the frustration is understandable. Because we know it could be so great. It really could, and it wouldn't be hard to do. But instead we get this.

I've been saying for months (and even years before that with the movies) that people should keep their expectations in check to avoid having their hopes crushed. And I've been almost completely apathetic to this latest effort myself. But when I saw that trailer, I couldn't help but be dejected. Because I care about Berserk, and it pains me that they're doing this to it. There's no stopping it, it's what makes us human.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on June 10, 2016, 11:16:42 PM
 :schnoz: Long time stalker of this forum, 2nd post ever...

It's a shame about the animation direction they decided to go with. But really what matters with me (and what should ultimately matter) is how well this studio can adapt this series well enough, that people who haven't read the actual series can get a comprehensive idea of what's going on in the manga storyline.
Really wish the Count and Rochine's story would be a part of this anime, but I can understand if they need to cut things out in order progress the anime in the direction they want.
I just hope they stay at least somewhat true to the story and not screw up important story plots and character relation (which is 75% possible). I gotta say though, I'm pumped to see Puck :puck:, Farnese :farnese:, Isidro :isidro:, and Serpico :serpico: animated and hope the studio can accurately portray their character relations and actions from the manga as best as they can. Craving a good Berserk animated show. Hoping this one is it.

I'm hyped to see them all in Guts' party. :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 11, 2016, 12:55:15 AM
Found on Reddit: http://i.imgur.com/sEzvkKv.jpg

My guess is, they polished the trailer as much as they could, but when it came time for regular production, they realized they couldn't maintain that consistency for the full series, so they "dumbed it down."
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 11, 2016, 01:38:22 AM
Because we know it could be so great. It really could, and it wouldn't be hard to do. But instead we get this.

Given that The Brand is one of my favorite episodes from the Black Swordsman Arc, I was initially pleased that they would be animating it.  You have this great scene, right, with Guts turning around and seeing the possessed body of Colette holding her father's head in one hand and a sword in the other and then it focuses on that grin, just perfect.  She walks out of the wagon and comes straight at Guts with just this intensity and you have this great moment of hesitation while she stabs Guts.  Perfect scene, perfect atmosphere.

So given that what do they do with it?  They have her flailing around doing some kind of sword dance or some shit.  Really fucking great totally awesome yeah thanks.  It seems like it's going to have the same kind of over-the-top ridiculousness to everything that the movies had, so I expect we can all look forward to more of these kind of improvements.  :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Oburi on June 11, 2016, 02:21:36 AM
Out of boredome I watched the first Berserk movie Egg of the King on the Netflix the other day when I noticed it on there. It's only the second time I watched this after my first viewing years ago when it came out (I still haven't seen the other movies). Man, was it rough. I think it even managed to age horribly just in the few years it's been out.  It's a complete mess, all over the place.

Anyway, I never had much to say when they made that trilogy, and I don't have much to say now with this new project. I've avoided just about everything that's related to these new animations over the years and I don't feel like I've missed out on a damn thing. I think I'll maintain that position for the foreseeable future.

See y'all in the new episode threads!  :guts: 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 11, 2016, 11:59:00 AM
Found on Reddit: http://i.imgur.com/sEzvkKv.jpg

My guess is, they polished the trailer as much as they could, but when it came time for regular production, they realized they couldn't maintain that consistency for the full series, so they "dumbed it down."

Ah, nice work to whoever did this. I believe they did a "2D redrawing of the faces" for the old trailer, but didn't bother with it for the new one. I guess we shouldn't expect it for the actual show either...

Out of boredome I watched the first Berserk movie Egg of the King on the Netflix the other day when I noticed it on there. It's only the second time I watched this after my first viewing years ago when it came out (I still haven't seen the other movies). Man, was it rough. I think it even managed to age horribly just in the few years it's been out.  It's a complete mess, all over the place.

Hahaha, I'm not surprised. I don't think I could seat through another viewing of "Egg of the King" myself, it's just too much to take.

Anyway, I never had much to say when they made that trilogy, and I don't have much to say now with this new project. I've avoided just about everything that's related to these new animations over the years and I don't feel like I've missed out on a damn thing. I think I'll maintain that position for the foreseeable future. See y'all in the new episode threads!  :guts:

Clearly the smartest move to make.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 11, 2016, 02:05:42 PM

Hahaha, I'm not surprised. I don't think I could seat through another viewing of "Egg of the King" myself, it's just too much to take.


Even though I have them at home, everytime I try to re-watch them I can't get through the first one. The other day I had a few drinks and decided to skip straight to the third one, but I choke after 20 min and went to bed instead.

I'm still curious about the new one.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on June 11, 2016, 03:45:02 PM
Titles of the first 5 episodes have been released, and they are simultaneously disappointing and relieving.

1. 竜殺しの大剣 (Large Sword Dragonslayer)
2. 聖鉄鎖騎士団 (Holy Iron Chain Knights)
3. 奇跡の夜 (Night of Miracle)
4. 啓示 (Revelation)
5. 断罪の塔 (Tower of Conviction)
http://www.wowow.co.jp/anime/ap/berserk.html

Shitty translations courtesy of Google Translate and my best guesses.

Looks like Guardians of Desire and Lost Children are out, which sucks, but this also means that the full 24 episodes will be devoted to Binding Chains and Birth Festival.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: RaffoBaffo on June 11, 2016, 04:23:10 PM
Actually, we don't know yet if there will be 24 Episodes, or 13...unless I forget the announcement.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hanma_Baki on June 11, 2016, 04:40:56 PM
First: new preview video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2-9HwHlpw ...ugh (https://j.gifs.com/pYm7J2.gif).

Thats it, Im done.


(http://berserk-anime.com/core_sys/images/news/00000023/block/00000024/sn_00000012.jpg?1465555677)
This should have been the visual they teased from the very beginning...

Anyway, this visual is far more inspiring than the new trailer

Yes that looks acceptable. Unfortunately, only to lure us in and crush our fucking hearts.


How hard is it to get an anime adaptation of Berserk right?

At this point its not even about animating it "right" (as in style) anymore. Its more about getting an overall decent animation at all, they couldnt even give us that.

You know, its kinda funny how Berserk's basically got the best art and most fluid art style, and then gets the very worst animation in the business. Something just doesnt add up here. At some point you almost have to ask yourself; do they actually want to disappoint us?


Found on Reddit: http://i.imgur.com/sEzvkKv.jpg

This is hilarious.


1. 竜殺しの大剣 (Large Sword Dragonslayer)
2. 聖鉄鎖騎士団 (Holy Iron Chain Knights)
3. 奇跡の夜 (Night of Miracle)
4. 啓示 (Revelation)
5. 断罪の塔 (Tower of Conviction)


Oh?! Well at least then it seems like they'll be focusing on more or less one arc. Not mashing everything together. Yeah, "seems" anyway.

Cause honestly I'd rather they skip all of Black Swordsman arc and Lost Children chapter than making some weird unfaithful summary of it all.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on June 11, 2016, 04:42:55 PM
Actually, we don't know yet if there will be 24 Episodes, or 13...unless I forget the announcement.

There's this, but it's not exactly official word from the studio or anything:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/24/german-site-lists-24-episodes-for-upcoming-berserk-tv-anime
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: RaffoBaffo on June 11, 2016, 04:55:35 PM
There's this, but it's not exactly official word from the studio or anything:
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/24/german-site-lists-24-episodes-for-upcoming-berserk-tv-anime
Good, I really hope is a 2cour Anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: luizao on June 11, 2016, 06:14:44 PM
Titles of the first 5 episodes have been released, and they are simultaneously disappointing and relieving.

1. 竜殺しの大剣 (Large Sword Dragonslayer)
2. 聖鉄鎖騎士団 (Holy Iron Chain Knights)
3. 奇跡の夜 (Night of Miracle)
4. 啓示 (Revelation)
5. 断罪の塔 (Tower of Conviction)
http://www.wowow.co.jp/anime/ap/berserk.html

Shitty translations courtesy of Google Translate and my best guesses.

Looks like Guardians of Desire and Lost Children are out, which sucks, but this also means that the full 24 episodes will be devoted to Binding Chains and Birth Festival.

No Lost children Arc?????!!!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 11, 2016, 06:34:15 PM
Titles of the first 5 episodes have been released, and they are simultaneously disappointing and relieving.

1. 竜殺しの大剣 (Large Sword Dragonslayer)
2. 聖鉄鎖騎士団 (Holy Iron Chain Knights)
3. 奇跡の夜 (Night of Miracle)
4. 啓示 (Revelation)
5. 断罪の塔 (Tower of Conviction)
http://www.wowow.co.jp/anime/ap/berserk.html

Shitty translations courtesy of Google Translate and my best guesses.

Looks like Guardians of Desire and Lost Children are out, which sucks, but this also means that the full 24 episodes will be devoted to Binding Chains and Birth Festival.

I'm not sure there's too much cause for relief here. Sure, they'll focus on less material, meaning they'll have more time to do it justice. But at what cost? We're going to get, in a single episode: Guts meeting Puck > dreaming about the Demon Child > fighting Colette > haunted tree > meeting the H.I.C.K.... Will they even bother with the Beast of Darkness? Who cares, right? I'm not even mentioning any apostle because let's not kid ourselves. And uh, so Guts isn't grievously wounded when he first encounters the H.I.C.K.? Or maybe the tree gave him trouble? Sounds good already. Frankly, given how complex that arc is in terms of social commentary, character development and so on, I think it's going to be a huge mess.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 11, 2016, 07:13:10 PM
1. 竜殺しの大剣 (Large Sword Dragonslayer)
2. 聖鉄鎖騎士団 (Holy Iron Chain Knights)
3. 奇跡の夜 (Night of Miracle)
4. 啓示 (Revelation)
5. 断罪の塔 (Tower of Conviction)

Looks like Guardians of Desire and Lost Children are out, which sucks, but this also means that the full 24 episodes will be devoted to Binding Chains and Birth Festival.

This sounds like a disaster.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on June 11, 2016, 07:46:02 PM
I'm not sure there's too much cause for relief here. Sure, they'll focus on less material, meaning they'll have more time to do it justice. But at what cost?

Agreed. My expectations are already pretty low (and dropping steadily with each new bit of info we get), but for whatever reason, let's call it naivety, I'm trying to be optimistic--until proven otherwise in July.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tabris on June 11, 2016, 11:58:29 PM
This is pretty much what my friends and I were joking about when it came to the new series. Sad when it's a running joke about how much content they can cut and how.

At this rate they may as well just skip over the entirety of the Kushan war and just go straight to Falconia and then not animate anything for another 15-20 years. Then do it all over again for whatever reason.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: TheAlmightyLoli on June 12, 2016, 06:17:55 PM
Titles of the first 5 episodes have been released, and they are simultaneously disappointing and relieving.

1. 竜殺しの大剣 (Large Sword Dragonslayer)
2. 聖鉄鎖騎士団 (Holy Iron Chain Knights)
3. 奇跡の夜 (Night of Miracle)
4. 啓示 (Revelation)
5. 断罪の塔 (Tower of Conviction)
http://www.wowow.co.jp/anime/ap/berserk.html

Shitty translations courtesy of Google Translate and my best guesses.



Looks like Guardians of Desire and Lost Children are out, which sucks, but this also means that the full 24 episodes will be devoted to Binding Chains and Birth Festival.


I swear, Berserk is cursed, anime wise.

And the sad part is that doing a faithful adaptation wouldn't be hard. But no one wants to do it right.

Skipping Lost Children wouldn't even be necessary, if they were smart about it.


There are three parts they want to cover, right?

Black Swordsman, Lost Children, and Tower of Conviction. I threw Guardians of Desire in with Black Swordsman as both set up Guts' character as very big, scary man that killed things, and Griffith as Femto.

And the anime is twenty four episodes long. So each part could get eight episodes in total.

Eight for Black Swordsman, eight for Lost Children, and eight for Tower of Conviction. I doubt they could finish Tower in eight episodes, but they could leave off on a cliffhanger or something to tease a second season.

That'd be a Hell of a lot better than just skipping entire arcs because reasons.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: slowishturtle on June 13, 2016, 12:10:42 PM
I was really looking forward to lost children, it's one of my favorite parts of berserk  :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on June 13, 2016, 03:23:40 PM
God Dammit. How do they fuck this up this badly? Not only does the animation look like a mixed bag between 'maybe acceptable' and 'pastel garbage,' but they decided to make a 24 episode season and cut out 2 full arcs. I get that the Conviction arc feels a bit more epic, but cmon! They have so much room to work with. I was expecting an abridged Black swordsman and Lost Children Arc to at least show how Guts kinda loses it on his quest for vengeance against apostles before getting pulled back to save Casca. I could have lived with that, even if we only see him go after one of the three prominent ones we see, and imply some others through a montage. That could have worked, and wed see Guts go BERSERK as a vehicle of rage and vengeance, that he struggles with as the series goes on.

But without any of that, how is it even going to make sense? He leaves with the Dragon Slayer (to do what?) fights a possessed tree and some skeletons only to be immediately captured by the Holy Iron Chain Knights, escapes and heads back right away to find out Casca ran off.  There is so much wrong here. For example:

-Why are the H.I.C.K.s even after him if he hasnt left a wake of dead bodies as the Black Swordsman? Hes just some random guy with a big sword, unless they are pinning the Eclipse on him.

-What is Guts going on a quest for if he doesnt encounter any Apostles? Will our audience even remember what the Apostles are by the time they appear much later on (whoops).

-Will we even have enough time to set up Casca giving birth to the demon child, locking her up with Rickert and Godot, getting the Dragon Slayer, and meeting Puck. Is this all in the same episode as the skeletons and Collete? How?

-How will there be any character arc between an enraged Guts who wants to destroy the God Hand, and one who wants to protect the only person left to him.  You have to set up the first part of him to lead into the second.

-How do a bunch of amateur knights like the H.I.C.K.s manage to overpower the Hundred man Slayer if hes not already beaten to a pulp.

-Are we cutting the Beast of Darkness too now?

-Does Guts get a beherit?


Okay, rant done. Heres the only way I can see them salvaging this knowing what we know now.

The first episode would have to be a longer one, maybe 40 min. There is precedent for this. We open with a minor flashback to the eclipse out of a nightmare from Guts and we find that Casca has wandered off from the cave. Guts finds her and we have the demon child birth, pissing off Guts more. They do the whole DS intro, including with the pig apostle, and this prompts him to go off.  They then show us Guts Black swordsman period in an extended montage sequence, showing several Apostles hes killed and how he sheds his humanity more and more with each passing encounter, and he gets a beherit near the end implying that hes on a dark path. He meets Puck somewhere during this and we finally have someone questioning what hes doing and why hes so gloomy. We have The Brand episode with Collete and the skeletons and Guts is near a breaking point, and this is where the H.I.C.K.s encounter him, near the corpse of a child they accuse him of murdering.
Continue from Conviction arc onward.

Thats a lot to cover in the first episode, but I think it might be possible. If they did this, it would be far from ideal, but I thing you could still get the core of what the series needs to propel into the Conviction arc. My faith that theyll do this is super low though.

I guess I may have to revisit this series as a part of Redux as well to fix these awful colors and include the Black Swordsman episode. God Dammit.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Dreft on June 13, 2016, 03:24:46 PM
No Lost Children? That is very disapointing. The hope that they'd do this part was the only reason I got my hopes up for this anime.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Vixen Comics on June 13, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
I'm even more "meh" about this than I was before. The 2D animation (is this even genuine 2D animation)looks like that type of animation they used for the new Fujiko Mine anime they had not to long ago with all the cruddy streaky  lined "shadowing," but some how cheaper and much more poor quality. Some of the animation is so simple looking it looks like a elementary school kid drew it. I mean come on now!

Also the Black swordsman arc and Lost children arc are my favorites and I am pissed that it appears that it will probably be skipped or abridged so completely that it will have no meaning. I also really like the Conviction arc but it looks like they are might be messing that up as well. Damn, I am so frustrated. The scene with Farnese and Guts better not be messed up.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hypnos on June 14, 2016, 04:58:34 AM
I don't get this honestly, so I heard that after the backlash of the first teaser animation they went back and enhanced it and now we get this? Can someone please explain that to me?
If they're going with this after going back and enhancing the old animation of the teaser does that mean they just don't care anymore or what?!

Also the lost children.... I mean wow. I was literally talking about that arc specifically since they announced the anime to my friend who's never read the manga and how guts killed all those children and basically didn't care less about it. Can't believe I'm not going to see that animated....

Oh and hi.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 14, 2016, 06:14:42 AM
how guts killed all those children and basically didn't care less about it.

That's... not really what happens.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Resonance on June 14, 2016, 11:28:38 AM
I feel like this anime is going to be a complete travesty. For starters the 3d modles they are using look inferior to ones made 12 years ago, and they are going to cut out 2 incredible arcs and just cram in the important events of them into the first episode. Well atleast I am going to get another Hirasawa song out of it.

Berserk 2016: http://i.imgur.com/qS24gUD.png
Berserk PS2 Game 2004: https://gyazo.com/6f2b801f41cff28bd4ced4e421ab6d85

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: buttonmasher on June 14, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Hey man, you might wanna reread that section of the story or your post because, right now, it sounds like you're bummed that you wont see our hero nonchalantly murder children.   :isidro: We are talking Berserk not Star Wars.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hypnos on June 14, 2016, 11:49:19 PM
That's... not really what happens.

I know he didn't mean to if that's what you're referring to.

Hey man, you might wanna reread that section of the story or your post because, right now, it sounds like you're bummed that you wont see our hero nonchalantly murder children.   :isidro: We are talking Berserk not Star Wars.

I think you missed my point. I enjoyed seeing how together he was when he found out about it, it was awesome seeing how much he's changed.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 15, 2016, 12:08:38 AM
I know he didn't mean to if that's what you're referring to.

Their lives ended when Rochine turned them into monsters. Guts released them from that mutated existence.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hypnos on June 15, 2016, 12:47:47 AM
Their lives ended when Rochine turned them into monsters. Guts released them from that mutated existence.

That's definitely one way to put it. Man still can't believe we're not seeing that animated...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: NightCrawler on June 15, 2016, 06:48:33 PM
The worst realization about how they're trimming the story, is that it seems probable that they'll go beyond Femto's incarnation.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 15, 2016, 07:36:36 PM
The worst realization about how they're trimming the story, is that it seems probable that they'll go beyond Femto's incarnation.

Given everything they're skipping or cutting out, it's going to be a clusterfuck if/when they get to the Millennium Falcon arc and beyond.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on June 15, 2016, 08:27:07 PM
Given everything they're skipping or cutting out, it's going to be a clusterfuck if/when they get to the Millennium Falcon arc and beyond.

Agreed. There will be little conflict for Guts to backslide into his Apostle hunting ways instead of protecting Casca. Probably no Beast of Darkness. That entire conflict is central to the character, not to mention a huge influence for the Berserker armor.  And if we don't see Apostles until after birth ceremony, aside from the Beherit apostle, I feel like a casual audience is going to be really confused as to who all these monster men are. The Black swordsman arc and Lost Children chapter does so much world building that pays off later, I feel like they're hamstringing themselves and don't even realize it.

Not to mention that Guts won't be getting a beherit from the Count or Snake Baron in this version...

And ultimately they are skipping stuff to race towards a red light. What happens if the show is popular and they catch up to the series? I bet they'll wish they took they're time then.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on June 16, 2016, 12:54:46 AM
If they decide not to pursue animating the Beast of Darkness in this series, then they are dooming a large chunk of the story and character plots to the toilet. How can they cut such an important part of the main character in a story? The Beast of Darkness is suppose to drive Guts forward because of his hate for Griffith, but also push him to control it to save his new companions at the same time.

Guts' Berserker armor would serve no purpose other than a visual upgrade. If there is no Beast of Darkness, there is no Guts going berserk (other than some strange alternative version the anime decides to follow)

Schierke's story and relationship with Guts will suffer as well because their won't be that struggle against the Beast and Guts' persona when it comes to using the Berserker armor to its potential.

Cutting the :beast: out will do this anime a huge dishonor and lose so much more potential than they have already lost.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 16, 2016, 10:47:58 AM
First post!

Anyway, do we know if Susumu Hirasawa is doing the OST for the new anime? Cant have Berserk without his godly music.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 16, 2016, 01:07:49 PM
First post!

Anyway, do we know if Susumu Hirasawa is doing the OST for the new anime? Cant have Berserk without his godly music.

He is doing an insert song. Not the entire OST.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 16, 2016, 01:19:44 PM
He is doing an insert song. Not the entire OST.

Alright, hopefully the other OST will be up to the task though, since visuals aren't going to be as they're supposed to be. :/

Skipping lost children arc is gonna suck though. Its arguably the best potrayal of hatred/rage possessed Guts.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 16, 2016, 01:28:52 PM
Alright, hopefully the other OST will be up to the task though, since visuals aren't going to be as they're supposed to be. :/

It's going to be done by the same composer as the movie trilogy: Shirō Sagisu.

Skipping lost children arc is gonna suck though.

Lost Children is a Chapter within the Conviction Arc.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 17, 2016, 09:53:09 AM
It's going to be done by the same composer as the movie trilogy: Shirō Sagisu.

Lost Children is a Chapter within the Conviction Arc.

Yeah I know, i just consider it a mini-arc in its own due to its length.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on June 17, 2016, 03:04:19 PM
Yeah I know, i just consider it a mini-arc in its own due to its length.

Seems pretty silly considering Lost Children is the second shortest chapter of the entire series.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 17, 2016, 03:12:41 PM
Didnt seem like that to me.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 17, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
Didnt seem like that to me.

For info, the Lost Children chapter is composed of 23 episodes, while the Conviction arc has 82 episodes in total. And for reference, the Chapter of the Holy Evil War Chronicle contains 59 episodes. The Falconia chapter has 72 episodes. In any case, the author is the one who chooses those labels, we just follow what he decides.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on June 22, 2016, 06:05:34 AM
https://youtu.be/ciKEDLyKa-M?t=10m42s

Crunchyroll is premiering the 1st episode at Anime Expo on July 2nd with a Q & A and autograph session with the producer of the new anime, Reo Kurosu. They didn't mentioned when they'll be streaming the episode on their site. Only that it will be "soon".
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Dar Klink on June 24, 2016, 02:41:13 AM
https://youtu.be/ciKEDLyKa-M?t=10m42s

Crunchyroll is premiering the 1st episode at Anime Expo on July 2nd with a Q & A and autograph session with the producer of the new anime, Reo Kurosu. They didn't mentioned when they'll be streaming the episode on their site. Only that it will be "soon".


Oh hey, I'm going to be there actually. Guess I'll pop in and take some notes. HERE WE GOOO.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 24, 2016, 05:30:53 AM
Oh hey, I'm going to be there actually. Guess I'll pop in and take some notes. HERE WE GOOO.

Nice! The SkullKnight International Information Network (codename: SIN) is coming through! :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on June 24, 2016, 07:07:44 AM
Anime Expo schedule page updated recently to reveal that the 1st episode premiere will be from 3:30pm-5:00pm on July 2nd
https://animeexpo2016a.sched.org/event/7Qak/crunchyroll-presents-berserk-episode-1-premiere-with-reo-kurosu


Oh hey, I'm going to be there actually. Guess I'll pop in and take some notes. HERE WE GOOO.
Oh, sweet. I neglected to mention that I'll be there as well.  :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 24, 2016, 02:27:21 PM
Anime Expo schedule page updated recently to reveal that the 1st episode premiere will be from 3:30pm-5:00pm on July 2nd


An hour and a half? Does that involve q/a and stuff like that after the showing?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2016, 02:32:47 AM
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5028022/

Special "behind-the-scenes" video being distributed on Reddit. Features a short clip of the new anime (5 seconds or so of footage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNprNGSPDs)), around the 20 min mark, which is also just after an interview with Susumu Hirasawa. Nothing from Miura.

In the video: Boar apostle confirmed. Western fans of Berserk are goofballs. They show off some uncut, original manga artwork from recent episodes (those featured in Vol 38) -- always nice to see these.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on June 27, 2016, 07:42:53 AM
And here is the opening theme in full, also courtesy of Reddit.

Inferno by 9mm Parabellum Bullet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emFVFZhSQKA

Personally, I really like the sound of it.  :badbone:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Eluvei on June 27, 2016, 08:07:05 AM
And here is the opening theme in full, also courtesy of Reddit.

Inferno by 9mm Parabellum Bullet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emFVFZhSQKA

Personally, I really like the sound of it.  :badbone:

Never thought I'd say this but I think I like Tell Me Why better. :SK:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Resonance on June 27, 2016, 09:27:53 AM
And here is the opening theme in full, also courtesy of Reddit.

Inferno by 9mm Parabellum Bullet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emFVFZhSQKA

Personally, I really like the sound of it.  :badbone:

On my first listen I was thinking this song was OK, now I cannot stop listening to it  :puck:

It does not fit Berserk very well, seems more like a theme that would fit a Shounen type anime much better I feel.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on June 27, 2016, 11:36:17 AM
An hour and a half? Does that involve q/a and stuff like that after the showing?
Yeah.
Quote
Don't miss this exciting exclusive premiere of the eagerly-anticipated summer anime, Berserk! Be the first to see the long-awaited continuation of this classic, dark-fantasy action series--the fantastic, violent return of Guts and his trials and tribulations as he seeks his revenge against Griffith. Think this premiere can't get more exciting? Reo Kurosu, one of the producers, will be joining us for this special screening! There will be a special Q&A afterwards, along with a chance to win an exclusive Berserk poster, so don't miss out!

Never thought I'd say this but I think I like Tell Me Why better. :SK:
Well, it's certainly more memorable because of how hilariously bad it was. :troll:

The OP song for the new anime is pretty forgettable.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 27, 2016, 07:40:05 PM
Inferno by 9mm Parabellum Bullet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emFVFZhSQKA

Well it's an anime's opening theme alright. Could be swapped with any other and it wouldn't make a difference.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Resonance on June 27, 2016, 07:47:14 PM
Well it's an anime's opening theme alright. Could be swapped with any other and it wouldn't make a difference.

http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DemFVFZhSQKA&start1=&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DcXeb9cb6k0I&start2=&authorName=It+just+works  (Mute Naruto one)

Wow, you're right about that.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 27, 2016, 07:47:33 PM
Well it's an anime's opening theme alright. Could be swapped with any other and it wouldn't make a difference.

Hahaha so true!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on June 27, 2016, 09:42:59 PM
Hmmm in regards to the opening while I suppose it's technically more tonally fitting to series than the 1997 opening was it's not a particularly memorable song, pretty generic as others have said. And Tell Me Why had sorta a "it's so unfitting/clashing that it works" (or as others have said "so bad that it's good/memorable") vibe to it, many fans often couldn't help but love it (including myself).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 27, 2016, 09:55:58 PM
Yeah this new intro is as generic as they get.  Im still pretty excited because 5 more days only! Hopefully OST will rock.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2016, 10:37:15 PM
Premieres July 1 for Crunchyroll members: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/06/27/launch-date-and-regions-announced-for-berserk-anime-on-crunchyroll
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on June 27, 2016, 10:57:18 PM
Hm, doesn't seem to show Berserk as " upcoming anime " no matter where I search even as a member. I guess it'll just pop up in 3 days.

Edit: Nvm found it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on June 27, 2016, 11:24:31 PM
Premieres July 1 for Crunchyroll members: http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/06/27/launch-date-and-regions-announced-for-berserk-anime-on-crunchyroll

It's times like these that I'm glad to be a premium member.  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on June 30, 2016, 12:32:17 AM
The third trailer has been subbed by Crunchyroll for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAkl2uJEuA4
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 30, 2016, 12:43:23 AM
The third trailer has been subbed by Crunchyroll for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAkl2uJEuA4

Hmmmmm...  Book of Revelations?  Gut is "possessed" by evil spirits...?  I hope these are just bad translations.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 30, 2016, 02:02:12 AM
Revelations is probably okay but it shouldn't be a proper noun. Perhaps Guts means "pursued?" Either way, not a great start. But they got Falcon right, when almost no one else does.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mogen on June 30, 2016, 02:31:00 PM
The third trailer has been subbed by Crunchyroll for those interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAkl2uJEuA4

I can't help but to get a little excited watching this trailer, its not perfect at time looks like a video game cut scene but this is real its happening its the Black Swordsman arc. I remember when I was younger it seemed like every year I'd search for any roamer on a Berserk season 2. So I do get happy that it is finally happening, at least in some form.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on June 30, 2016, 06:33:43 PM
Perhaps Guts means "pursued?"

My guess is they meant to say "haunted". Their translation wasn't bad otherwise, it's more (again) the graphics that irked when I watched this.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sammoniac on June 30, 2016, 08:57:47 PM
In my opinion, the visuals aren't bad at all considering this is a series and not movies. Like all the others, I am a bit puzzled as to why they left out Lost Children. Especialy considering that its a fan favorite segment. But hey, I guess we'll see what this is all about soon enough. I paid my premium on Crunchyroll yesterday  :serpico:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on June 30, 2016, 09:20:59 PM
I paid my premium on Crunchyroll yesterday  :serpico:

Just paid for mine an hour ago! Can't wait!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on June 30, 2016, 10:12:36 PM
Just paid for mine an hour ago! Can't wait!

You guys know they have promotional coupons for a free month, right?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sammoniac on June 30, 2016, 11:21:16 PM
You guys know they have promotional coupons for a free month, right?

Nope didn't know. But I tried to get the default 14 days trial and had an error message saying I already had one in the past, which is not the case. Hell, the credit card I used just arrived here 2 days ago so its impossible and it was obviously a bug. Anyways, I found a way to get around that "mandatory" trial by finding a direct link to suscribe for premium on reddit. And the price is so low that I didn't really care  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mogen on July 01, 2016, 01:53:18 AM
Just paid for mine an hour ago! Can't wait!

I'll be getting mine tomorrow after I get off work.  :guts: I might have to marathon the original anime or the movies to get ready.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on July 01, 2016, 02:08:34 AM
So seeing as Australia is excluded from Crunchyroll distribution do I have any other legal options?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 01, 2016, 02:10:51 AM
Titles of Eps 6-9 were just released (http://www.wowow.co.jp/pg_info/wk_new/010825.php). Thx go to Reddit for raising the alarm on it.

Ep6 火あぶりの夜宴 --> The evening's banquet of burning at the stake
Ep7 黒き魔女 --> Black witch
Ep8 魔窟の再会 --> Reunion in the den of evil
Ep9 亡者の血流 --> The blood flow of the dead

Here's my assessment based strictly on how titles align with the manga and what we've been shown in previews:

Ep 1: Dragon Slayer Parts of Vol 1 and 14
Ep 2: Holy Iron Chain Knights Vol 16 (eps 119-121)
Ep 3: Night of Miracles Vol 17 (eps 122-125)
Ep 4: Revelation Vol 17 (eps 126-130)
Ep 5: Tower of Conviction Vol 17 (eps 131-136)
Ep 6: Banquet of Stake Burning Vol 18 (eps 137-143)
Ep 7: Black Witch Vol 18 (eps 145-147)
Ep 8: Reunion in the Den of Evil Vol 19 (eps 147-150)
Ep 9: Blood Flow of the Dead Vol 19 (eps 151-154)

Ep 9's title aligns with a 2-part episode that closes out Volume 19. Which gives them presumably another 16 episodes to cover the remaining 2 volumes of Conviction, if that 24 total eps thing is to be believed. That's more than enough, given the pace they've set. So, we really still have no idea where this will end. Could be Hill of Swords. I just don't know. Can't be much further than Vol 22 given how the scope takes off dramatically during Millennium Falcon. Wouldn't make much sense, production wise, to group that within the same season.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on July 01, 2016, 02:53:41 AM
Titles of Eps 6-9 were just released (http://www.wowow.co.jp/pg_info/wk_new/010825.php). Thx go to Reddit for raising the alarm on it.

Ep6 火あぶりの夜宴 --> The evening's banquet of burning at the stake
Ep7 黒き魔女 --> Black witch
Ep8 魔窟の再会 --> Reunion in the den of evil
Ep9 亡者の血流 --> The blood flow of the dead

Here's my assessment based strictly on how titles align with the manga and what we've been shown in previews:

Ep 1: Dragon Slayer Parts of Vol 1 and 14
Ep 2: Holy Iron Chain Knights Vol 16 (eps 119-121)
Ep 3: Night of Miracles Vol 17 (eps 122-125)
Ep 4: Revelation Vol 17 (eps 126-130)
Ep 5: Tower of Conviction Vol 17 (eps 131-136)
Ep 6: Banquet of Stake Burning Vol 18 (eps 137-143)
Ep 7: Black Witch Vol 18 (eps 145-147)
Ep 8: Reunion in the Den of Evil Vol 19 (eps 147-150)
Ep 9: Blood Flow of the Dead Vol 19 (eps 151-154)


Damn, this new anime series is moving in leaps and bounds like kangaroo. And its pacing is with about as much grace and subtlety of a bull in a china shop  :puck:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DirectDK on July 01, 2016, 04:35:46 AM
You guys know they have promotional coupons for a free month, right?

Nope, haha.  It's no biggie though.  It's only $6.95 a month and first 2 weeks are free.  Anyways, it's more important for me to show my support to Berserk as much as I can.  As most streaming companies go, they will be tracking what shows premium users watch first (ie what they signed up for).  So I'm all for it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on July 01, 2016, 06:51:23 AM
Nope, haha.  It's no biggie though.  It's only $6.95 a month and first 2 weeks are free.  Anyways, it's more important for me to show my support to Berserk as much as I can.  As most streaming companies go, they will be tracking what shows premium users watch first (ie what they signed up for).  So I'm all for it.

yeah its really cool what CR do, they said that the money they get from you goes towards the show you watch the most. if berserk is the only thing you're gonna be watching on there then most of that money will go towards it which is just awesome.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 01, 2016, 12:11:56 PM
yeah its really cool what CR do, they said that the money they get from you goes towards the show you watch the most. if berserk is the only thing you're gonna be watching on there then most of that money will go towards it which is just awesome.

I have to imagine that they're counting on views per show as the metric of success, and not counting which members are still on trials and which are paying viewers. That's how Netflix's business model operates -- the show makers get $ per view. I've never used CR before, and I imagine many here haven't either, so there's no harm in using a free trial. They still get their eyeballs, which they'll use to prove whether or not something was successful, and studios still get paid.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on July 01, 2016, 12:39:39 PM
Am I the only one not seeing Berserk in the day schedule? I'm not good with this website so... help?  :guts:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Imperator Hanseatic on July 01, 2016, 12:47:47 PM
Am I the only one not seeing Berserk in the day schedule? I'm not good with this website so... help?  :guts:

I can offer no help, only confirm that this is also the case for me.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on July 01, 2016, 12:55:19 PM
I can offer no help, only confirm that this is also the case for me.

I' guessing it will appear when it starts or something. What time zone are you in? I'm in the East so it should be on around 11h30 am for me.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on July 01, 2016, 12:57:02 PM
Am I the only one not seeing Berserk in the day schedule? I'm not good with this website so... help?  :guts:

It should appear when the episode comes out - which will be in about 30 minutes.  :guts:

Here is a timer counting down to it! http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=a&iso=20160701T0730&year=2016&month=7&day=1&hour=7&min=30&sec=0&p0=137&msg=Berserk%202016%20on%20Crunchyroll%20w/%20English%20subtitles
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: VengeanceQuest982 on July 01, 2016, 01:02:17 PM
Here's to hoping that within these 24 episodes that we're given more character development then the films that this is a continuance of. I guess the only other question left to ask is this : If this performs "strongly" will we get another Tv-Series to cover The Millennium Falcon Arc?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Earthlingzing on July 01, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
Am I the only one not seeing Berserk in the day schedule? I'm not good with this website so... help?  :guts:
Its not available for Asia, New Zealand and Australia, so if you live there tough luck.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on July 01, 2016, 01:22:15 PM
Its not available for Asia, New Zealand and Australia, so if you live there tough luck.

Nah I'm in Canada so I should be able to watch it. It's just that I've never used CrunchyRoll before so I'm not familiar with how it works.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on July 01, 2016, 01:29:43 PM
Anime opening intro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGlHIiJkVU
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on July 02, 2016, 06:22:10 PM
How exactly is the new TV anime branded? I only saw ANN (not a good source) use the word Saga Project in combination to it and the show has VAs, the composer and 2 (?) tracks as carry over.
The distribution partners changed though. And who the hell is Ultra Super Pictures? Someone will need to make the wikipedia page looks "right". It might as well be me, but i need sourced information first.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2016, 02:22:22 PM
Thanks to @DemiFiendRSA on Twitter for some news. He reported from a Q&A with the director of the 2016 anime during Anime Expo this past weekend:




FWIW, the title of Episode 3 is "Night of Miracles" which corresponds to a very popular episode in Vol 17. So I'm not sure what the "all new" thing necessarily means.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on July 06, 2016, 02:24:47 PM
If Episode 3 is written by him entirely, it should be good. Fingers crossed Lost children gets animated.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 06, 2016, 02:32:18 PM
As I thought, it seems they want to wrap up the Conviction arc in a half season. Hm. I also wonder what parts of the first episode Miura worked on exactly. Those that were straight from the manga? :troll: Or maybe touching up Isidro's lines or something. Anyway, quite curious to see the third episode now. I take it if he wrote it entirely that he felt he needed to, in order to preserve the story's integrity. I wonder what exactly they had cooked up before his involvement... Probably not something we'd want to see.

FWIW, the title of Episode 3 is "Night of Miracles" which corresponds to a very popular episode in Vol 17. So I'm not sure what the "all new" thing necessarily means.

Might mean that it was completely rewritten from the events in the manga? I'm not sure they can feature the business with the horse on screen for one thing.

Fingers crossed Lost children gets animated.

"Maybe, someday" = not by this team and not any time soon, as I understand it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2016, 02:37:35 PM
As I thought, it seems they want to wrap up the Conviction arc in a half season.

Yep, it aligns with the pacing they've set. But I wonder about the "maybe more..." line. Depends on how the first set was received, presumably.

Quote
I take it if he wrote it entirely that he felt he needed to, in order to preserve the story's integrity.

I also thought it was telling that he wrote "part" of Ep 1, meaning it could have been remedial in nature something where he stepped in to rewrite it because he wasn't satisfied, and for Ep 3, he took the reins. We'll see.


I left out one Tweet that said the first two episodes were shown:

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 06, 2016, 02:41:34 PM
But I wonder about the "maybe more..." line. Depends on how the first set was received, presumably.

Seems like it. Still, that's a dreadfully fast pace. Would they plan on adapting the whole series in just two seasons or something?

I also thought it was telling that he wrote "part" of Ep 1, meaning it could have been something where he stepped in to rewrite it because he wasn't satisfied, and for Ep 3, he took the reins. We'll see.

Yep, it's basically what I'd have expected to happen. Might also explain why he was busy for the first half of 2016.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on July 06, 2016, 02:44:10 PM
I would frankly prefer a decade long hibernation, instead of shoved in Lost Children (not that it will happen), and a new start from scratch. Episode 3 may even get adapted one of these days... and any side-quels /sequels will have to use the foundations the 2 projects gave us, so no thank you. Miuras writing credit is interesting though, as i now know that he is fully "complicit". Not that blame anyone and putting 20 out minutes of animation is impossible in 2 weeks time, expect no "fixes", just more coherence. Our bed has been made ladies and gentlemen.
The 12 ep. limit to my suffering is my big takeaway but why was Flora in the opening scene... What a way to :troll: and confuse the audience.
This Robert though is a gentleman and a scholar! +1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cme9o4bUIAA140G.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2016, 02:51:19 PM
Miuras writing credit is interesting though, as i now know that he is fully "complicit".

Was the guy who grabbed the Titanic's wheel and tried to steer the ship away from the iceberg complicit in its sinking?

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This Robert though is a gentleman and a scholar! +1

It's true, he's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on July 06, 2016, 02:54:51 PM
Well Walter. This anime may look like nothing but this isnt South Park. He can steer small parts of the very last batch in a better direction but ep. 3? Everyone sinks on our Titanic :magni: .
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-05
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2016-03-16/your-ultimate-guide-to-anime-ending-credits-part-i/.99852
These 2 should give some insight how anime gets put together and the only way to drastically improve on a pilot is to do the US models, where they sit on it for half a year.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2016, 02:58:48 PM
Well Walter. This anime may look like nothing but this isnt South Park. He can steer small parts of the very last batch in a better direction but ep. 3? Everyone sinks on our Titanic :magni:

Was trying to be reasonable. My bad.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: MASTER-AMIR on July 06, 2016, 02:59:16 PM
I do believe they saw feedback of Berserk anime in Anime Expo :guts: I feel they will release Lost Children OVA type soon.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 06, 2016, 03:00:57 PM
Well Walter. This anime may look like nothing but this isnt South Park. He can steer small parts of the very last batch in a better direction but ep. 3? Everyone sinks on our Titanic :magni: .

Incomprehensible post. Rather than complaining, the news that Miura got involved early should give us hope that later episodes will be of a higher quality, at least as far as the scripts go.

I do believe they saw feedback of Berserk anime in Anime Expo :guts: I feel they will release Lost Children OVA type soon.

Yeah I have no doubt Anime Expo really got them to change their mind on that point. They're going to get on top of it right this instant. :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on July 06, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
@Aazealh / Walter I fully expect more coherent writing in the future but scripts come before everything else. I know that even anime episodes can be worked on till the last second (Cowboy Bebop) but were are talking about animation, not the way they are structured from the bottom up.
Who knows when ep. 1 was finished, it now looks better than in the trailers, yet it would be hard to implement game changers that can "steer" anything. The writers, episode directors and so on are assigned with enough lead in time and the Miura written episode appears to be No. 3 and maybe another down the line. I dont think that anyone stepped in. This is just Miuras time to be in the spotlight.

South Park gets put together in 6 days, watch 6 Days to Air: The Making of South Park, and the record are 3 days. Every anime this season though HAS to be deep in work on the last stretch of the cour. Not starting them.
(https://washiblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/prod.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on July 06, 2016, 03:18:58 PM
Does anyone know what the reaction in the Expo was more specifically?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Eluvei on July 06, 2016, 03:39:16 PM
Too bad it's for this ugly ass show, but I'm really excited to watch an anime episode Miura wrote himself.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2016, 03:40:34 PM
@Aazealh / Walter I fully expect more coherent writing in the future but scripts come before everything else. I know that even anime episodes can be worked on till the last second (Cowboy Bebop) but were are talking about animation, not the way they are structured from the bottom up.
Who knows when ep. 1 was finished, it now looks better than in the trailers, yet it would be hard to implement game changers that can "steer" anything. The writers, episode directors and so on are assigned with enough lead in time and the Miura written episode appears to be No. 3 and maybe another down the line. I dont think that anyone stepped in. This is just Miuras time to be in the spotlight.

I don't think anyone is proposing that there will be, or could be, sweeping changes to the production. Just that Miura might have seen a script and then wanted to revise it, hence his additions to the first ep. That could have happened early on we don't know, and it doesn't really matter. And in Episode 3 he presumably had full control. That's really it.

The team could become more competent over time. That's not infeasible. But I don't expect a "game changer" personally.

Does anyone know what the reaction in the Expo was more specifically?

The guy in the tweets implied that the crowd went wild.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on July 06, 2016, 03:44:24 PM

The guy in the tweets implied that the crowd went wild.

Yes but I didn't understand if they went wild from excitement because, you know, group mentality or with rage...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2016, 03:46:02 PM
Yes but I didn't understand if they went wild from excitement because, you know, group mentality or with rage...

Seemed pretty clear to me. He said he thought it was shit and the crowd "made it worse," presumably by cheering for it.

You could always send him a tweet and see if he could give you more clarification though.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on July 06, 2016, 03:47:36 PM
Yes, I sent him a tweet as soon as I posted here. It confused me, cause the idea of getting excited for this anime is so farfetched to me
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 06, 2016, 03:49:11 PM
Yes, I sent him a tweet as soon as I posted here. It confused me, cause the idea of getting excited for this anime is so farfetched to me

I was in a theater where people cheered for Looper. People are stupid in groups.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on July 06, 2016, 03:51:05 PM
I was in a theater where people cheered for Looper. People are stupid in groups.
Ahahah, yes that's very true. If Nazi Germany didn't prove that the movie Looper sure did ahaha
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Imperator Hanseatic on July 06, 2016, 03:52:13 PM
Yes, I sent him a tweet as soon as I posted here. It confused me, cause the idea of getting excited for this anime is so farfetched to me
Those people do exist. Some of them on this very forum. Here they're the minority, but they seem quite numerous in Youtube comments. I imagine many of them aren't familiar enough with the manga to really understand what's wrong with this new adaptation, with another large portion lacking the critical thinking skills to recognize things that just don't make sense. The latter is a common issue these days, I find.

Edit: removed extraneous word.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on July 06, 2016, 03:55:20 PM
A lot of casual audience only cares to see Guts chopping up someone so I imagine the story doesn't matter that much to them. Which is quite sad.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on July 06, 2016, 03:55:43 PM
Those people do exist. Some of them on this very forum. Here they're the minority, but they seem quite numerous in Youtube comments. I imagine many of them aren't familiar enough with the manga to really understand what's wrong with this new adaptation, with another large portion lacking the critical thinking skills to recognize things that just don't make sense. The latter is a common issue these days, I find.

Edit: removed extraneous word.
Those people exist in large quantities these days, when I try to argue with them why it's bad technically they say I just can't accept their opinion and am a bigot
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on July 06, 2016, 04:28:46 PM
I was in a theater where people cheered for Looper. People are stupid in groups.

People cheered when Adonis was killed by Guts when I watched the movie in a festival. Like that part was funny or something...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Dar Klink on July 07, 2016, 12:28:32 AM
Sadly I didn't make it to the panel at Anime Expo because of how bad the lines were this year in terms of crowding and terrible management. Shit's getting to the level of SDCC where you have to get to a panel line 2-3 hours early if you want to make it in.

Anyway, FUCK IT WAS SO BAD I ALMOST AM GLAD I DIDN'T SEE IT IN PERSON JESUS CHRIST.  :azan:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on July 07, 2016, 11:13:45 AM

This Robert though is a gentleman and a scholar! +1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cme9o4bUIAA140G.jpg)
It's true, he's pretty awesome.
DemiFiendRSA from Twitter here. I wasn't expecting to get such praise :farnese: . Thanks, guys. You're very welcome, I'm glad I was able to report some of the Q & A from the premiere panel. :guts:

I'd also asked the producer a question when I went to go get my free poster and autograph. It's worth noting that he can speak and understand English well. Anyways, I asked him how much Miura was involved with the production of the anime. His response, "He was involved from top to bottom. He checked every script and went to every voice recordings for it."

And here's a little bit of info on episode 2 and episode 3 preview for anyone who can't wait til Friday.
Episode 2
-Golden Age flashback from the Guardians of Desire section of the Black Swordsman arc where Guts and Griffith are talking to each other on the pile of corpses was added during Farnese interrogation with Guts
-The new track by Susumu Hirasawa is played when Guts takes Farnese hostage
-The episode ends at the ending of manga episode 122/1st page of episode 123 where the haunted spirits are flying past Serpico


Episode 3 preview
-Guts and Farnese are hiding in some abandon mansion.
-See a little bit of Farnese's flashback
-flashback with Boar Apostle
-Farnese tries to barricade a door from the possessed dogs.


Sadly I didn't make it to the panel at Anime Expo because of how bad the lines were this year in terms of crowding and terrible management. Shit's getting to the level of SDCC where you have to get to a panel line 2-3 hours early if you want to make it in.

Anyway, FUCK IT WAS SO BAD I ALMOST AM GLAD I DIDN'T SEE IT IN PERSON JESUS CHRIST.  :azan:
No worries. I took the bullet for you. :troll:

Yeah, I don't know how I still managed to have patience for Anime Expo. I get so frustrated by it sometimes.:mozgus:

Does anyone know what the reaction in the Expo was more specifically?
Yes, I sent him a tweet as soon as I posted here. It confused me, cause the idea of getting excited for this anime is so farfetched to me
I already responded to your tweet, but I'll repeated it here. The majority of the crowd seemed to enjoy it. They cheered almost every time Guts does something like killing or punching someone. :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 07, 2016, 11:31:05 AM
DemiFiendRSA from Twitter here. I wasn't expecting to get such praise :farnese: . Thanks, guys. You're very welcome, I'm glad I was able to report some of the Q & A from the premiere panel. :guts:

Thanks for reporting all that info man, great job! (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/Themes/Recall_20/images/post/thumbup.gif)

I'd also asked the producer a question when I went to go get my free poster and autograph. It's worth noting that he can speak and understand English well. Anyways, I asked him how much Miura was involved with the production of the anime. His response, "He was involved from top to bottom. He checked every script and went to every voice recordings for it."

Interesting. That makes me all the more curious to see how the next episodes will go. I think even with the abysmally low budget this show has got (not to mention the dreadfully accelerated pace), Miura's involvement should be able to salvage the story's integrity. Although that didn't really save the first episode... I guess we'll have to wait and see.

And here's a little bit of info on episode 2 and episode 3 preview for anyone who can't wait til Friday.
Episode 2
-Golden Age flashback from the Guardians of Desire section of the Black Swordsman arc where Guts and Griffith are talking to each other on the pile of corpses was added during Farnese interrogation with Guts
-The new track by Susumu Hirasawa is played when Guts takes Farnese hostage
-The episode ends at the ending of manga episode 122/1st page of episode 123 where the haunted spirits are flying past Serpico


Episode 3 preview
-Guts and Farnese are hiding in some abandon mansion.
-See a little bit of Farnese's flashback
-flashback with Boar Apostle
-Farnese tries to barricade a door from the possessed dogs.

Hmm, I'm quite curious to see how that will look in action. It looks like they crammed in a lot of flashbacks. What did you think of the second episode? Better than the first one, or also terrible?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Earthlingzing on July 07, 2016, 11:42:16 AM
Thanks a lot for all that info, much appreciated. I'm most curious about the third episode, if they want to cram in too much not even Miura's involvement will be able to save the ship from sinking.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 07, 2016, 11:54:40 AM
I'm most curious about the third episode, if they want to cram in too much not even Miura's involvement will be able to save the ship from sinking.

Yeah to me this TV series has now become a kind of exercise in seeing just how much a story can be compressed, cut and rearranged without losing its soul. I'm not at all sure it'll avoid being a disaster, but one can hope. Of course, even if the scripts are good, there's always the CG and animation to contend with...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: NightCrawler on July 07, 2016, 12:14:15 PM
I asked him how much Miura was involved with the production of the anime. His response, "He was involved from top to bottom. He checked every script and went to every voice recordings for it."

Ouch.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Oburi on July 07, 2016, 01:47:28 PM
Anyways, I asked him how much Miura was involved with the production of the anime. His response, "He was involved from top to bottom. He checked every script and went to every voice recordings for it."

I wonder if he's playing up Miura's involvement. Every voice recording? Really?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 07, 2016, 01:58:24 PM
Episode 2
-Golden Age flashback from the Guardians of Desire section of the Black Swordsman arc where Guts and Griffith are talking to each other on the pile of corpses was added during Farnese interrogation with Guts
-The new track by Susumu Hirasawa is played when Guts takes Farnese hostage
-The episode ends at the ending of manga episode 122/1st page of episode 123 where the haunted spirits are flying past Serpico

Thanks for the preview! As expected, the pacing here seems more reasonable for an episode's worth of content. Strange placement of Susumu's track, though. A heroic-sounding song for a non-heroic moment. I wonder if it kicks in when he's holding the torch to Farnese's ass  :farnese: :guts:

Quote
Episode 3 preview
-Guts and Farnese are hiding in some abandon mansion.
-See a little bit of Farnese's flashback
-flashback with Boar Apostle
-Farnese tries to barricade a door from the possessed dogs.


Now that's interesting -- particularly because this is the episode Miura wrote, yet it has a big deviation from the manga. I'm really interested in seeing that scene now.

I wonder if he's playing up Miura's involvement. Every voice recording? Really?

I had the same thought, but without any other official word on it, we have to take him at face value.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on July 08, 2016, 12:57:28 AM

Hmm, I'm quite curious to see how that will look in action. It looks like they crammed in a lot of flashbacks. What did you think of the second episode? Better than the first one, or also terrible?
It still looked terrible, but it was better than the 1st episode only because of the pacing of it. There were still a couple of cuts, but the 2nd episode was nowhere near as crammed as the 1st episode was.

I wonder if he's playing up Miura's involvement. Every voice recording? Really?
Yeah, I wasn't completely convinced when he said that, but as Walter has already mention, we'll just have to take it at face value.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jarlix on July 08, 2016, 02:26:17 AM
It still looked terrible was it was better than the 1st episode only because of the pacing of it. There were still a couple of cuts, but the 2nd episode was nowhere near as crammed as the 1st episode was.
Yeah, I wasn't completely convinced when he said that, but as Walter has already mention, we'll just have to take it at face value.

Now all we need to know is if Miura is under contractual obligation to not say anything bad about how it turned out.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: idi0tf0wl on July 08, 2016, 02:33:19 AM
Now all we need to know is if Miura is under contractual obligation to not say anything bad about how it turned out.

I wonder what Berserk fans would say if they found out Miura actually likes this new show
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 08, 2016, 03:49:59 AM
It still looked terrible, but it was better than the 1st episode only because of the pacing of it. There were still a couple of cuts, but the 2nd episode was nowhere near as crammed as the 1st episode was.

Alright, thanks. Unfortunately I doubt it'll ever get better in the looks department.

I wonder what Berserk fans would say if they found out Miura actually likes this new show

That he has bad taste in anime?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: VengeanceQuest982 on July 08, 2016, 06:50:40 AM
Here are some points from Anime EXPO Panel panel with BERSERK Director

(http://i.imgur.com/HdQzsXT.png?1)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: idi0tf0wl on July 08, 2016, 07:24:26 AM
That first tweet is so incredibly tasteless if it actually happened.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 08, 2016, 08:03:49 AM
Here are some points from Anime EXPO Panel panel with BERSERK Director

All of this was already posted and discussed pages ago. The person tweeting is forum member Hitoshura.

That first tweet is so incredibly tasteless if it actually happened.

Indeed. Idiots are devoid of shame unfortunately.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: VengeanceQuest982 on July 08, 2016, 12:36:46 PM
whoops. I guess I missed that posting of information in the thread then. My apologies everyone I thought it was new information.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on July 08, 2016, 06:32:49 PM
whoops. I guess I missed that posting of information in the thread then. My apologies everyone I thought it was new information.

No worries man.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Halcian on July 09, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
I wonder if he's playing up Miura's involvement. Every voice recording? Really?

Did Miura approve "Oh, Tonio!" "He was a good man..."?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 09, 2016, 09:37:22 AM
Did Miura approve "Oh, Tonio!" "He was a good man..."?

That line is straight from the manga. If there's a problem with it, it's with how they chose to adapt it (and leave out the rest of the scene).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on July 10, 2016, 11:44:29 AM
The anime is doing one important thing right as of now. Being a global ad. The shows (positive) review has been on IGNs front page for the 2nd time over the weekend, and may continue to for 10 weeks. IGN has a Global Alexa Rank of 372 (google is No.1). There is no such thing as bad publicity.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 12, 2016, 11:58:25 PM
Interview with producer of the anime Reo Kurosu, who repeats stuff we originally heard thanks to Hitoshura:

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 13, 2016, 08:45:29 AM
Wow, Hitoshura wasn't kidding, he really does speak English perfectly. That's pretty unusual for a Japanese guy. I wonder if he's from the US originally and moved to Japan for work or something.

Anyway, I'm stricken by how completely ungenuine he sounds throughout the whole thing. It sounds like he's making up all his answers as he goes while the woman tries to sell the project as hard as she can. Also, he's the one responsible for quality control? Well thanks for fucking nothing. :ganishka: I guess his sole claim to faim will have been the partnership with Crunchyroll (which is pretty cool). The best segment is when she asks about his favorite part of the series and he replies the music and sound effects (you know, the one thing we can all agree is absolutely terrible). And when she presses him on about the story he visibly struggles to remember what he's been told: "oh yeah the uhhh... Black Swordsman arc... and uhhhh another one after that." The guy clearly has no idea what Berserk is about.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Feeblecursedone on July 13, 2016, 12:03:35 PM
I wonder if anyone recognised the guy and came up to him and asked him " why did you make such a piece of shit? " I guess it would be way too rude....
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 13, 2016, 03:00:12 PM
I wonder if anyone recognised the guy and came up to him and asked him " why did you make such a piece of shit? " I guess it would be way too rude....

It would be rude certainly, but that didn't stop the dweeb in the Q&A from making that idolmaster "joke." :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on July 13, 2016, 03:43:53 PM
These people don't know Berserk, that is the saddest part of the people in charge
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on July 13, 2016, 06:50:23 PM
At least we now have a scapegoat to pin the blame on. I wonder how much truth there is to Miura being a big part of that first episodes writing. Because that thing is a mess when ever it tries to do anything original.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 13, 2016, 06:52:28 PM
I wonder how much truth there is to Miura being a big part of that first episodes writing. Because that thing is a mess when ever it tries to do anything original.

I doubt we will ever get any more specific information about these kinds of things. I'm amazed we know as much as we do already.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Cyrus Jong on July 13, 2016, 07:04:04 PM
I don't know who to be more annoyed by. The producer, who's clearly an amateur who knows little to nothing about Berserk (let alone sound design, film editing, etc.), or the interviewer who either doesn't know what good animation is, or is lying through her teeth about enjoying the CG. I guess I'll go with the producer; at least caring isn't supposed to be in Victoria's job description.

Hearing it directly from Kurosu, I'm personally finding the whole notion of Miura working with the project "from top to bottom" doubtful. Just sounds like typical marketing speak, and he doesn't come across as very honest to me. I can't wait to see episode three now; the guy says it's "a whole new story that no one's ever seen before." But from the preview, it honestly looks more like they're just condensing more material from the manga. If that turns out to be the case, rather than something "completely original," then it'll prove that most everything he says is bullshit.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 13, 2016, 07:46:41 PM
the interviewer who either doesn't know what good animation is, or is lying through her teeth about enjoying the CG. I guess I'll go with the producer; at least caring isn't supposed to be in Victoria's job description.

Well she's obviously a Crunchyroll employee so shilling literally is her job description here. The whole thing is pretty awkward though, they're both completely unconvincing.

Hearing it directly from Kurosu, I'm personally finding the whole notion of Miura working with the project "from top to bottom" doubtful. Just sounds like typical marketing speak, and he doesn't come across as very honest to me. I can't wait to see episode three now; the guy says it's "a whole new story that no one's ever seen before." But from the preview, it honestly looks more like they're just condensing more material from the manga. If that turns out to be the case, rather than something "completely original," then it'll prove that most everything he says is bullshit.

I'm sure Miura's overlooked the scripts and that can be seen in how faithfully they follow the manga most of the time, but the problem is that it's not what dooms this show to failure. The way the guy brandishes it is obviously an attempt to give the series a credibility with long-time fans that it can't ever hope to have.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on July 14, 2016, 12:09:11 AM
Here is a link to the Q&A panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eie4yGFUaRE
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 14, 2016, 12:33:20 AM
Here is a link to the Q&A panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eie4yGFUaRE

That idolmaster moment. Welp, we've reached rock bottom, people.  Ker-Plunk.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on July 14, 2016, 12:36:45 AM
Here is a link to the Q&A panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eie4yGFUaRE

I love when someone asks him about the Idea of Evil and he just struggles to respond to that.  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 14, 2016, 12:38:44 AM
I love when someone asks him about the Idea of Evil and he just struggles to respond to that.  :ganishka:

Guts will... be struggling with .... his ... concept of evil... :idea:

I feel a little bad for the guy though. I mean, what a ridiculous question. "Oh yeah, that part that was cut from the manga, we're definitely including that!" Were these guys just like, bone dry on ideas?

I'd like to think the idiocy and disrespect on display wasn't necessarily representative of Berserk fans in particular, but just anime fans when they're given a microphone in front of an audience.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on July 14, 2016, 12:42:56 AM
That idolmaster moment. Welp, we've reached rock bottom, people.  Ker-Plunk.

That made me cringe pretty hard.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on July 14, 2016, 12:47:34 AM
Guts will... be struggling with .... his ... concept of evil... :idea:

I feel a little bad for the guy though. I mean, what a ridiculous question. "Oh yeah, that part that was cut from the manga, we're definitely including that!" Were these guys just like, bone dry on ideas?

I'd like to think the idiocy and disrespect on display wasn't necessarily representative of Berserk fans in particular, but just anime fans when they're given a microphone in front of an audience.

I seemed like he was having a hard time coming up with these answers the whole time.  And yeah, that was a stupid question.  I think the part she was referring to was actually from episode 82 anyway...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Eluvei on July 14, 2016, 01:26:03 AM
That idolmaster moment. Welp, we've reached rock bottom, people.  Ker-Plunk.

These byproducts, like certain video reviews and that shameful moment being recorded and uploaded, are already worse than the show itself and we're only on episode 2.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Cyrus Jong on July 14, 2016, 01:34:23 AM
Even the attempts to promote the series are on a shoestring budget. Public speaking is clearly another field Kurosu has no experience with. I mean, seriously, someone asks him why they decided to start at the Black Swordsman arc instead of the Fantasia arc, and he talks about how the series is a hybrid of 2D and 3D animation. I mean, it's a moronic question and all, but that answer had nothing to do with it! I can understand trying to evade a question. I can understand trying to look like you know more than you really do. I can understand misinterpreting what people are asking you (as he did when he was asked about the Idea of Evil). But to go off on a completely unrelated subject just boggles my mind.

It was very awkward panel when it wasn't being annoying. Seems like everywhere we go, all anyone will ever say about Berserk is fucking boats and Idolmaster. :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: IncantatioN on July 14, 2016, 02:51:47 AM
That idea of evil question and response was weird. I think a pretty telling question is the one that follows, speaking about the series writer dictating the direction of the series - what to include and what to omit, focus being solely on Guts. Cringeworthy stupid as hell last question.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on July 14, 2016, 04:24:43 AM
It's definitely more clearer to hear the Q & A panel in that video than where I was sitting at. Either the mics were faulty or the people asking the questions were too low at times.


It was very awkward panel when it wasn't being annoying. Seems like everywhere we go, all anyone will ever say about Berserk is fucking boats and Idolmaster. :schierke:
If I had a dime every time someone mentioned those "jokes", I'd be a rich man by now.

And yes, I did actually facepalmed over there when I heard that stupid "joke" question at the end. :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on July 14, 2016, 04:34:39 AM

Anyway, I'm stricken by how completely ungenuine he sounds throughout the whole thing. It sounds like he's making up all his answers as he goes while the woman tries to sell the project as hard as she can. Also, he's the one responsible for quality control? Well thanks for fucking nothing. :ganishka: I guess his sole claim to fame will have been the partnership with Crunchyroll (which is pretty cool). The best segment is when she asks about his favorite part of the series and he replies the music and sound effects (you know, the one thing we can all agree is absolutely terrible). And when she presses him on about the story he visibly struggles to remember what he's been told: "oh yeah the uhhh... Black Swordsman arc... and uhhhh another one after that." The guy clearly has no idea what Berserk is about.

I had to watch this whole interview to believe it.  And boy, does this Reo Kurosu guy not disappoint. Besides tripping up on Berserk-related questions, he even struggles to describe his own fucking job. He is so full of shit, his eyes have turned brown  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on July 14, 2016, 05:14:03 AM
horrible Q&A, bad questions and scary answers. please stay away, don't touch the millennium falcon, the idea of these guys potentially renewing for multiple new series is scary. and the last question...wow just wow, what makes it even worse is that the crunchyroll chick repeated it and laughed about it  :rickert:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tama on July 14, 2016, 05:21:47 AM
This is why I'm kind of glad I don't attend conventions in a way. If all of the fans are really like this and just disrespectful I feel like I'm not missing much. I don't know if it's because I'm older now, but it seems rare to have an adult conversation about manga/anime, and it just comes down to internet memes and superficial things that interest most.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 14, 2016, 10:35:37 AM
Alright so I figured if I had to subject myself to the pain of this Q&A I might as well do something with it, so I wrote a recap for whoever's interested. Spoiler: it is not really worth reading.

I actually don't think the questions were that bad overall, although clearly the staff at hands was grossly incompetent. This incompetence is evident from the beginning, as the session starts with the Crunchyroll woman asking Reo Kurosu what he felt like hearing the audience scream like idiots whenever anything happened and he struggles, as he's prone to do, to describe what went on in the first episode of the series he's the producer of and is supposed to be promoting. So he says "Guts kills demons, uhh not even demons, uhh... humans and uhh little girls and uhhh... and the woman laughs, saying that "Berserk is very complicated". Ironically I guess? Or is this what passes for complex to them? Ugh.

Then on to the questions. Starts with a German kid on vacations who's skipped his AHDH medicine and spends 5 minutes giving shoutouts to his friends after saying he couldn't read the subtitles, then has the mic ripped away from him as he tries to advertise something. Great. Then we get a softballed (but decent) question about the CG style that the producer just bullshits his way through in an almost professional manner. After that a cretin comes up to ask how quickly they'll adapt the sea trip because "we spent too long on the boat lol", not realizing that the sea journey only took up 30 episodes in total, and that only 10 of those were actually spent on the ship itself (17 were spent on the Solitary Island, 3 were a flashback to Guts' childhood). Reo Kurosu doesn't get the boat reference at all obviously, saying he's "on the boat as well". His second and I guess real question is a useful one about Miura's involvement. Another good question is asked about the CG and how fast it is to create that the producer just straight up dodges. A question about the Berserk's armor that is also just not answered. Then an excited fan (cosplaying as Guts) who wants to know how far they'll adapt, which is "as far as we can" says the producer, not hiding that financial success is the only criterion for continuation.

Another guy bravely asking how many episodes are planned and actually pressing the dude until he spits out that so far 12 are in the works. Well done. Then a guy asks about the challenges of bringing back the franchise into the light after a long period without an adaptation. Reo Kurosu says they aim for a fresh start, but his answer is mostly interesting in that he clearly separates the movies from this new series. We already knew they were different because none of the same companies are involved, but still. The next guy sounds super nervous but has a great question about how they plan on handling Guts' character development in light of the early introductions of characters like Isidro, Schierke, Farnese, Serpico and Azan and the fact they skipped his "lone wolf" period with only Puck as a companion. A valiant (if inarticulate) effort but also clearly a futile one here, as the producer just says "this is Guts as the Black Swordsman and we'll introduce his friends later".

Then comes the girl who asks about the Idea of Evil (she mispronounces "Idea" too, it's 'ih-deh-ah', not the English word 'idea') and yeah it sounds to me like she's confused about what was removed from the manga. A part of her question is inintelligible but basically because the anime's intro shows a shot from episode 82 she asks whether the Idea of Evil will be shown in the series, which is a pretty strange question because they're obviously not going to retread on the Eclipse. Needless to say Reo Kurosu and the Crunchyroll chick are absolutely baffled by what she's asking. He answers as best he can and to be fair he gives a decent answer. Then the girl from the audience asks if it'll focus more on Guts than Griffith and he basically says yes, it'll focus on who Guts is, where he wants to go and what he wants to do.

The next question is also a good one, about what the thought process is to decide what to include or exclude from the adaptation. The answer is that the writer they have (Makoto Fukami) decided what parts they'd focus on and what parts they'd omit. The producer reiterates that they wanted to focus on Guts (which makes no sense or they'd have done the Black Swordsman arc). The question after that is whether anything left Reo Kurosu dissatisfied during production, and he says the time schedule, because "you never have enough time". Next one is how the director was chosen and why the decision was made to start when they did and not during the Fantasia arc. Reo Kurosu says the director was originally a 2D animator (makes sense for a show that 85% CG!) and then boasts about the 2D in the show, like the intro. So they're using the hybrid of 3D and 2D to depict what the director wants, which is 2D. "The blueprint for the whole thing is 2D." I guess that explains why the 3D isn't even properly used. Also, knowing that, I wonder how happy the director actually is with the result... The other part of the question is ignored.

Next question is when they'll animate the Lost Children chapter (the guy says "arc" of course). The producer answers that for this series they're depicting Guts' travels and his friends and that hopefully if they get enough support (translation: money) they'll do the Lost Children chapter along the line. I get tired of repeating it but it's obvious he doesn't actually know what they guy was referring to. A second question from the same guy is about what they'll do if they were to catch up to the manga. The answer: "I don't know" and some dumb shit like "who knows where this manga's going!". Then a guy asks whether someone needs a previous reference like the movies or manga to watch this series or whether it can stand by itself. Coming as no surprise, the answer is that it's intended to be watchable as a standalone series. Then comes the retard who asks whether the production will stop if a new Idolmaster game comes out, and he's actually from the Crunchyroll staff and seemingly barged in at the last moment to ask that question, so you can tell he really wanted to have his moment of glory with this hilarious "joke". The producer laughs along with the Crunchyroll woman, but then asks her "when a new what?" because he of course doesn't get it. Miss Piggy actually has to laboriously explain it to him after repeating the question for the audience and even then he's like "uhhh yeah sure haha, yep I'm sure uhhh yeah". A complete fiasco and in a perfect world the idiot who did that should be fired (and then a shotgun should be fired in his face).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Oburi on July 14, 2016, 01:15:47 PM
That idolmaster moment. Welp, we've reached rock bottom, people.  Ker-Plunk.

It's actually strange when you think about how the manga is at such a high and pivotal point that we've been waiting over a decade to witness ... while at the same time some of the absolute worst and most embarrassing byproducts of a successful manga are being shoved in our faces.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on July 14, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
Interview with producer of the anime Reo Kurosu, who repeats stuff we originally heard thanks to Hitoshura:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GlRS0NGJKJ0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Did that girl just say "Kento miura"? Fuck crunchyroll.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 14, 2016, 04:47:27 PM
Did that girl just say "Kento miura"? Fuck crunchyroll.

I don't blame Crunchyroll as a service for her poor behavior, or the douchebag who mentioned idolmaster. I blame the individuals.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on July 14, 2016, 05:15:59 PM
Reo Kurosu says they aim for a fresh start, but his answer is mostly interesting in that he clearly separates the movies from this new series. We already knew they were different because none of the same companies are involved, but still.

I'd be interested to know how and why did the Berserk anime adaptation rights changed hands. When the Berserk Project was announced 6 years ago, it was claimed that Studio 4C was planning to animate the entire series. Did Studio 4C really acquire the complete rights to Berserk, or was it only for the Golden Age arc? Or perhaps Studio 4C did have the rights to do the whole series, but after their botched movie trilogy flopped, they gave up any further attempts at Berserk anime, and the rights reverted to Hakusensha. And Hakusensha in turn decided to keep the Berserk anime momentum going and passed on the rights to Millepensee and GEMBA. I wish someone at the Q&A asked serious questions about behind the scenes goings on. 
 

The next question is also a good one, about what the thought process is to decide what to include or exclude from the adaptation. The answer is that the writer they have (Makoto Fukami) decided what parts they'd focus on and what parts they'd omit. 

Yet another bullshit answer from the bullshit artist. Reo Kurosu is basically diffusing the responsibility and shifting the blame on to someone else other than himself. Everyone knows that screenwriters generally don't have the creative control to decide what gets kept and what gets dropped. It's the producers and execs who get that choice. Nothing in the Berserk's TV script would have gone past the developmental stage and made it to the screen without Reo Kurosu's permission. He's the one with power, not Makoto Fukami.  This is not to let Makoto Fukami off the hook either, however. The "powers that be" aren't the sole reason for clumsy dialog and horrendous pacing in the new Berserk anime. A quick glance at Fukami's IMDB resume reveals his pre-Berserk screenwriting experience that goes back less than 5 years, and a number of projects he worked on prior to 2016 Berserk series can be counted on one hand.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5320150/

Including such gems as The Torture Club, a horseshit exploitation "comedy" movie based on his own horseshit 4-koma manga   (http://skullknight.net/images/gutsbarf.gif)
Sample it for yourself to get an idea of the brilliant mind of the man who's writing the Berserk anime series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRtdQMtF2ik
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on July 14, 2016, 05:21:59 PM
I'd be interested to know how and why did the Berserk anime adaptation rights changed hands. When the Berserk Project was announced 6 years ago, it was claimed that Studio 4C was planning to animate the entire series. Did Studio 4C really acquire the complete rights to Berserk, or was it only for the Golden Age arc? Or perhaps Studio 4C did have the rights to do the whole series, but after their botched movie trilogy flopped, they gave up any further attempts at Berserk anime, and the rights reverted to Hakusensha. And Hakusensha in turn decided to keep the Berserk anime momentum going and passed on the rights to Millepensee and GEMBA. I wish someone at the Q&A asked serious questions about behind the scenes goings on. 

Berserk Film Partners, a group that includes Hakusensha representatives, were the ones organizing the whole thing. They'd have contracted with Studio 4C for the movies. It seems that after the reception from those, or for another internal reason, that partnership evolved into a new group who decided on a new direction for the next adaptation. I doubt we'll get more info than that.
 
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Yet another bullshit answer from the bullshit artist. Reo Kurosu is basically diffusing the responsibility and shifting the blame to someone else other than himself.

He was in charge of quality control for this thing. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 14, 2016, 05:32:28 PM
I'd be interested to know how and why did the Berserk anime adaptation rights changed hands. When the Berserk Project was announced 6 years ago, it was claimed that Studio 4C was planning to animate the entire series. Did Studio 4C really acquire the complete rights to Berserk, or was it only for the Golden Age arc? Or perhaps Studio 4C did have the rights to do the whole series, but after their botched movie trilogy flopped, they gave up any further attempts at Berserk anime, and the rights reverted to Hakusensha. And Hakusensha in turn decided to keep the Berserk anime momentum going and passed on the rights to Millepensee and GEMBA.

The movies were produced by the "Berserk Film Partners" consortium and that included a whole bunch of companies. I'm not sure it was ever stated that Studio 4C specifically had acquired the rights to the entire series or planned to animate it themselves (and I don't care enough to check). Either way, the partnership was dissolved and I'm not sure it was necessarily Studio 4C's doing as opposed to some other key partners. For example Hakusensha could have frowned upon the result, or Warner Bros could have deemed it unprofitable.

I wish someone at the Q&A asked serious questions about behind the scenes goings on.

I seriously doubt this guy could have answered such a question. In fact I'm sure he couldn't have.

Yet another bullshit answer from the bullshit artist. Reo Kurosu is basically diffusing the responsibility and shifting the blame to someone else other than himself. Everyone knows that screenwriters generally don't have the creative control to decide what gets kept and what gets dropped. It's the producers and execs who get that choice. Nothing in the Berserk's TV script would have gone past the developmental stage and made it to the screen without Reo Kurosu's permission and that of other producers. They're the ones with power, not Makoto Fukami.

You know, this guy is a producer at NBC Universal, one of many partners in the new group working on that series. Given his lack of familiarity with literally everything, I'm not sure he had that big of a role outside of finding commercial partners like Crunchyroll. For info, below are the companies listed under "production" in ANN's entry for this adaptation:

Docomo Anime Store
Hakusensha
Koei Tecmo Games Co., Ltd.
LIDEN FILMS
Mainichi Broadcasting System
NBCUniversal Entertainment Japan
Ultra Super Pictures
WOWOW
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on July 14, 2016, 07:07:49 PM
Berserk Film Partners, a group that includes Hakusensha representatives, were the ones organizing the whole thing. They'd have contracted with Studio 4C for the movies. It seems that after the reception from those, or for another internal reason, the partners decided on a new direction for the next adaptation. I doubt we'll get more info than that.

The movies were produced by the "Berserk Film Partners" consortium and that included a whole bunch of companies. I'm not sure it was ever stated that Studio 4C specifically had acquired the rights to the entire series or planned to animate it themselves (and I don't care enough to check). Either way, the partnership was dissolved and I'm not sure it was necessarily Studio 4C's doing as opposed to some other key partners. For example Hakusensha could have frowned upon the result, or Warner Bros could have deemed it unprofitable.

If Hakusensha was displeased with Studio 4C's results, why would they turned Berserk over to GEMA/Millepensee, who defied all odds and did an even worse job than Studio 4C? I mean, Studio 4C's Golden Age movie trilogy may have scraped the bottom of the barrel. But the 2016 series went way further down and somehow manages to plumb even lower depths of shittiness. I wonder what Hakusensha will think of that.

And you know, in hindsight, this very murkiness and lack of transparency in of itself should have set off alarms within the Berserk fandom back in 2011. Lack of answers and everything being done in secrecy from fans, it's almost always a sign that things are gonna get fucked up and turned into shit.

You know, this guy is a producer at NBC Universal, one of many partners in the new group working on that series. Given his lack of familiarity with literally everything, I'm not sure he had that big of a role outside of finding commercial partners like Crunchyroll.

So this Reo Kurosu guy's job is to sell Berserk to potential investors and business partners. Seeing him awkwardly flubbing his way through the Q&A and his embarrassing gaffes throughout, I refuse to believe this man could even sell Lassie in a pet shop. If he can't even hold a casual conversation with fans, I can't imagine how he talks to business people with money and get them to fund Berserk series.

For info, below are the companies listed under "production" in ANN's entry for this adaptation:

Docomo Anime Store
Hakusensha
Koei Tecmo Games Co., Ltd.
LIDEN FILMS
Mainichi Broadcasting System
NBCUniversal Entertainment Japan
Ultra Super Pictures
WOWOW

The greatest Roman historian Tacitus once said that success has many fathers. But this 2016 Berserk anime just has many deadbeat dads  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 14, 2016, 07:26:46 PM
If Hakusensha was displeased with Studio 4C's results, why would they turned Berserk over to GEMA/Millepensee, who defied all odds and did an even worse job than Studio 4C? I mean, Studio 4C's Golden Age movie trilogy may have scraped the bottom of the barrel. But the 2016 series went way further down and somehow manages to plumb even lower depths of shittiness. I wonder what Hakusensha will think of that.

The most obvious answer is likely the correct one: budget limitations. That explains the choice of studios, the low quality of the show, the accelerated pace, etc.

And you know, in hindsight, this very murkiness and lack of transparency in of itself should have set off alarms within the Berserk fandom back in 2011.

I'm pretty sure it did set alarms off right here on this forum.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Squiddot on July 15, 2016, 01:11:54 PM
It's actually strange when you think about how the manga is at such a high and pivotal point that we've been waiting over a decade to witness ... while at the same time some of the absolute worst and most embarrassing byproducts of a successful manga are being shoved in our faces.

With as much respect as i can give, the large majority of Berserk's online fanbase is incredibly embarrassing. Especially the ones who parade it around as "the rape manga". That horrible musou trailer brought them out of the woodwork when they were chiding the people calling out the terrible subject matter that the manga would be "too hardcore 4 u". To say nothing of the general response to new episodes. I once saw someone literally call 344 "filler".
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Inga-no-Nagare on July 15, 2016, 02:58:15 PM
Aaz, thanks a lot for the notes! I was reading them along while listening to the Q&A.

For me, the definitive moment of the Q&A was when the producer was asked if there's anything in the anime that he's dissatisfied with ( https://youtu.be/eie4yGFUaRE?t=13m25s ), and you see his epic struggle to think of at least *something* that sounds authentic, but failing that, keeps saying unfocused bullshit and then suddenly laughs, embarrassed with himself. And then, for a moment, you see the sadness in his eyes, realizing how badly that went.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on July 15, 2016, 04:57:24 PM
With as much respect as i can give, the large majority of Berserk's online fanbase is incredibly embarrassing. Especially the ones who parade it around as "the rape manga". That horrible musou trailer brought them out of the woodwork when they were chiding the people calling out the terrible subject matter that the manga would be "too hardcore 4 u". To say nothing of the general response to new episodes. I once saw someone literally call 344 "filler".

That's why ya just stick to Skullknight.net, man.  It's the sole stronghold in this world where Berserk fans... can live their lives as Berserk fans.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Patrick on July 15, 2016, 06:14:20 PM
Someone at Crunchyroll did an interview with Reo Kurosu.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/07/15/feature-interview-with-berserk-producer-reo-kurosu
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Jemuller on July 15, 2016, 06:49:22 PM
Someone at Crunchyroll did an interview with Reo Kurosu.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/07/15/feature-interview-with-berserk-producer-reo-kurosu

Please, make it stop.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Eluvei on July 15, 2016, 06:56:37 PM
Someone at Crunchyroll did an interview with Reo Kurosu.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/07/15/feature-interview-with-berserk-producer-reo-kurosu

I love how he genuinely identifies with Mozgus:

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He adopted this group of deformed individuals and gave meaning to their life. The goals he leads them toward may have been twisted, he honestly believes them and remains true to his beliefs.

It makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 15, 2016, 07:06:02 PM
Someone at Crunchyroll did an interview with Reo Kurosu.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2016/07/15/feature-interview-with-berserk-producer-reo-kurosu

Hahaha, that interviewer clumsily trying to add some flavor to his piece... Also it's "the Golden Era" now apparently, I guess they really can't be bothered anymore.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Cyrus Jong on July 15, 2016, 10:18:38 PM
What a shitty interview. Time to rip it up.

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"Reo Kurosu: There is a lot to cover because Berserk such a long series. To adapt it to animation we had to have a concept, so we decided to focus on Gutss travels. Fitting it into a limited amount of episodes with that concept, we had to make choices about compressing, omitting, and even expanding parts of the story. Some of the material in the series will also be original, such as episode 3 which is completely original, written by Miura-sensei."
Which would have been better accomplished if you started with the Black Swordsman arc. Or the Lost Children chapter. Or...if you picked up where the movies left off and segued into either of those. Because the Birth Ceremony chapter that you (or whatever hack was in charge) are so insistent about animating is most definitely not about "Guts' travels." Also, episode 3 is out now and we can see plain as day that it is not completely original. You just threw in an unnecessary apostle fight and backstory into the middle of the Binding Chains chapter. Reo Kurosu, you're officially full of shit now.

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"RK: It will all be within the context of the original series. As far as new content, there will be new action scenes. There are certain things you can do in animation that you cant do in manga. Although Im not sure if thats specifically what Miura-sensei had in mind."
None of which you actually accomplished in this episode. Or any of the others so far. Because it takes more than moving picture to make a good animated story.

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RK: We see Berserk as a standalone series but were not going to be neglectful of past events. The manga was originally published in 1989 so its a classic now. There are a lot of new fans who may not be familiar with the original manga, so we want to be able to introduce them to the story while covering new ground.

We decided to include some imagery in the opening cinematic and plan to bring some of that backstory out with flashbacks like what we included in episode 2. As we follow Gutss travels, hell think back about the past events.
It remains to be seen how standalone this will really be, but your company's efforts to bring those unfamiliar with the manga, or Berserk in general, up to speed leaves a lot to be desired. The manga itself already provided the perfect means to introduce people to Berserk via the Black Swordsman arc, and then your people decided they knew better than Miura.

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RK: For this series were trying to do something new. The director is a 2D animator so what goes on in his mind and what he puts on storyboard is all in 2D. From there its all about choosing which tool to use between full CG animation, traditional 2D, or a hybrid of the two. The director and the 2D and 3D studios will meet and discuss what to use when depending upon what were trying to accomplish with each scene.
Ah, a repeat of what you already said in the Q&A panel. Here's the result of your studio's attempt to "do something new": the 3D animation looks like shit. Either get a director who understands 3D animation, since that's what most of this series is animated with, or let your current director focus on his area of expertise. That is, of course, assuming the guy you have wasn't the only director your company was able to afford.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Theozilla on July 17, 2016, 10:04:31 PM
With as much respect as i can give, the large majority of Berserk's online fanbase is incredibly embarrassing. Especially the ones who parade it around as "the rape manga". That horrible musou trailer brought them out of the woodwork when they were chiding the people calling out the terrible subject matter that the manga would be "too hardcore 4 u". To say nothing of the general response to new episodes. I once saw someone literally call 344 "filler".

Yeah the online reputation of the series (and by extension fanbase) can be pretty frustrating at times. Like the person who's reviewing the new anime on Anime News Network (here's his review of the first three episodes (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/berserk/episodes-1-3/.104402) FYI they were far more generous than I expected them to be) loved the 1997 anime but has been too intimidated by the manga's reputation (which he explains here in the review's article forum response (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4795733#4795733)), now granted some of it is warranted the manga can be a lot more graphic than the 1997 anime and occasionally gratuitous, but it's frustrating to see that the reputation the series has generated partially thanks to its fandom can dissuade people from trying to check out the manga/read past the Golden Age Arc.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on July 17, 2016, 10:29:47 PM
the manga can be [...] occasionally gratuitous

I disagree.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: CCS on July 18, 2016, 09:37:30 PM
I really wanted to give this series the benefit of the doubt but it's making it really hard for me. The only part I really liked was episode 2 when the Hirasawa song starts playing. Those 2-3 minutes were decent.

Everything else is either ugly or badly paced or both.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on July 23, 2016, 05:23:42 AM
I really wanted to give this series the benefit of the doubt but it's making it really hard for me. The only part I really liked was episode 2 when the Hirasawa song starts playing. Those 2-3 minutes were decent.

Everything else is either ugly or badly paced or both.
You know the first thing i noticed in episode 1 was the horrible music composition and ( i know, no shit) i really have no clue why they didnt just keep hirasawa susumu as the music guy like the rest of the series. I also want to know where to fid the song he did for berserk (Hai o)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on July 23, 2016, 05:28:16 AM
You know the first thing i noticed in episode 1 was the horrible music composition and ( i know, no shit) i really have no clue why they didnt just keep hirasawa susumu as the music guy like the rest of the series. I also want to know where to fid the song he did for berserk (Hai o)

THe music is one of the most distracting parts about it. It's so terrible for the first 3 episodes.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on July 23, 2016, 05:40:17 AM
THe music is one of the most distracting parts about it. It's so terrible for the first 3 episodes.
I know. Tbh i only listened to the music in the 1st episode bc i was watching berserk like it was an experience. Now i cant even hear the music, literally. I guess i was so upset 1st episode i decided to start filtering it out. :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on August 01, 2016, 08:21:45 PM
Someone posted a pretty good in depth analysis of what's wrong going wrong with the anime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6kVU8uNdic&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6kVU8uNdic&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on August 01, 2016, 08:44:04 PM
Someone posted a pretty good in depth analysis of what's wrong going wrong with the anime:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6kVU8uNdic&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6kVU8uNdic&feature=youtu.be)

Not saying this video has no merit, but I think we posted some pretty good in-depth analyses of why this anime sucks on this very forum...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Oburi on August 08, 2016, 07:09:01 AM
So I'm scrolling Skullknight watching South Park on Comedy Central tonight at 3:00 in the morning after a long night at work and suddenly during a commercial break I'm seeing clips of this new Berserk anime. Caught me off guard a little. I didn't think Crunchyroll would be doing cable television commercials for Berserk. It was a good 15-20 seconds too, all devoted to Berserk with "Crunchyroll" at the end.

I guess it's not a big deal, and as terrible as this anime is suppose to be, I must say just the idea of seeing a Berserk commercial on my television during a mega popular show like South Park while I'm scrolling sk.net is a little surreal. It's kind of settling in with me that we have entered a new generation with Berserk.  There's kids that are the age I was when I first discovered Berserk out there and they could be discovering this series right now this way.  Hopefully that path will lead them to be proper fans and support the manga. For us this anime might be shit, but for some kids out there who are interested in fantasy and dying to sink their teeth into a new series, they could see a commercial like that and with an open mind they could discover this amazing series that we all know and love.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on August 08, 2016, 07:39:07 AM
So I'm scrolling Skullknight watching South Park on Comedy Central tonight at 3:00 in the morning after a long night at work and suddenly during a commercial break I'm seeing clips of this new Berserk anime. Caught me off guard a little. I didn't think Crunchyroll would be doing cable television commercials for Berserk. It was a good 15-20 seconds too, all devoted to Berserk with "Crunchyroll" at the end.

I guess it's not a big deal, and as terrible as this anime is suppose to be, I must say just the idea of seeing a Berserk commercial on my television during a mega popular show like South Park while I'm scrolling sk.net is a little surreal. It's kind of settling in with me that we have entered a new generation with Berserk.  There's kids that are the age I was when I first discovered Berserk out there and they could be discovering this series right now this way.  Hopefully that path will lead them to be proper fans and support the manga. For us this anime might be shit, but for some kids out there who are interested in fantasy and dying to sink their teeth into a new series, they could see a commercial like that and with an open mind they could discover this amazing series that we all know and love.

Yeah, the silver lining of this whole thing is that it puts Berserk's name out there, but the big question is how many "conversions" will result from it. How many of those who stumble upon these TV ads or who check out a trailer or an episode on Crunchyroll (admist hundreds of other series) will get into the manga?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on August 08, 2016, 02:02:12 PM
Not saying this video has no merit, but I think we posted some pretty good in-depth analyses of why this anime sucks on this very forum...

No doubt, and the analysis has been great here. It was just interesting to see a deeper dive with visual comparisons of the directors previous work. It's so odd that they picked a guy of his background to do this. He's not an amateur (surprisingly), he just does bright little wacky comedy series mostly. It's bizarre.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on August 08, 2016, 02:59:07 PM
It's so odd that they picked a guy of his background to do this. He's not an amateur (surprisingly), he just does bright little wacky comedy series mostly. It's bizarre.

They probably had no one else or couldn't pay anyone else. This guy was free, wanted to try his hand at some new technology he isn't familiar at all with, and needed the dough.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: VengeanceQuest982 on August 09, 2016, 04:43:22 PM
Here are the release Dates for the Limited Edition BD Volumes for the 2016 Berserk series :

10.28.16
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/GNXA-1861

12.21.16
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/GNXA-1862

 :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on August 09, 2016, 05:06:16 PM
Here are the release Dates for the Limited Edition BD Volumes for the 2016 Berserk series :

10.28.16
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/GNXA-1861

12.21.16
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/GNXA-1862

 :ganishka:

What the...  :isidro: :magni:

No one is going to buy those at that price.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: VengeanceQuest982 on August 09, 2016, 05:20:42 PM
What the...  :isidro: :magni:

No one is going to buy those at that price.

You might be right you might be wrong in any case it might be worth it just to see what was cut if anything aside from the obvious.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on August 09, 2016, 05:32:10 PM
not supporting these guys outside crunchyroll, they don't deserve it and i don't want them to continue. these are standard anime prices in japan but you're paying for garbage, you're not paying for a few episodes of a good adaptation, you're paying for straight trash. It'd be better for people to put that money towards the new manga editions with the new cover designs, support miura directly  :carcus:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on August 09, 2016, 05:37:19 PM
it might be worth it

No way!  Over $400 for both?  They couldn't even put the whole thing in one set?  That's crazy.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on August 09, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
in any case it might be worth it just to see what was cut if anything aside from the obvious.

At a cost of $37 per episode  :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hanma_Baki on August 09, 2016, 08:57:04 PM
Haha is that a joke? I wouldn't even take it for free :ganishka:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on August 09, 2016, 10:33:17 PM
Yeah, good luck with that.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on August 09, 2016, 10:37:31 PM
So you're telling me that these DVD releases are not only priced at 200 dollars, but that this is the norm for DVD anime? um... that's just unbelievable. Like literally wtf? How does that even work? Why is the price so high?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Salem on August 09, 2016, 10:57:27 PM
I kind of find this all very depressing.  We have a new anime and a new game coming our way, but my thoughts are confidently in the realm of "we've already had better."  In fact, I'm sure many of you know where I'm coming from with this mindset.  I'm excited to play the ps4 version, whenever that arrives, but I doubt it'll beat the dreamcast and ps2 games that came before in terms of content and quality.  The 97 anime and the golden age movies, for me, are watchable.  Even I feel the need to never introduce anyone to Berserk in its current form.  Needless to say I'm a little embarrassed at the thought.

As Griffith said in the recent podcast, perhaps the floor in terms of quality was MUCH higher than it is today.  Can't get worse, can it?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tabris on August 09, 2016, 11:58:51 PM
Wow, those prices are completely deluded. As a Canadian, it's even more insane at roughly $578 for the two. I know it's Japan but c'mon, they probably didn't even spend that much making it.

I didn't buy the movies and I sure as hell won't be buying this series. 
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mammon on August 10, 2016, 02:00:22 AM
Damn, that's insane. Better have hours of "deleted scenes", a giant map of the world, and boxes full of goodies to justify that price.

I buy the manga, and I've bought the 97' anime and the newer trilogy of films because I want to support Berserk, (plus other stuff like the Dreamcast and PS2 games back when it came out, but at least these game were enjoyable IMO, I know I had fun with them) but there are my limits...  :puck:



Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on August 10, 2016, 06:00:20 AM
You know, I'd spend $450 for 12 episodes of Berserk if this was genuinely good. I'd go that far, even though it's a rip-off no matter how you see it. But given the garbage they've produced, who in their right mind would bother?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on August 10, 2016, 03:49:44 PM
You know, I'd spend $450 for 12 episodes of Berserk if this was genuinely good. I'd go that far, even though it's a rip-off no matter how you see it. But given the garbage they've produced, who in their right mind would bother?
The better question is why bother making DVD's of this when they made such crap. And another is how are they cutting their losses since literally noone will buy it.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on August 10, 2016, 04:12:56 PM
That money would be better spent on one of these:
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=9458.msg243121#new
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on August 10, 2016, 05:29:18 PM
And another is how are they cutting their losses since literally no one will buy it.

I would not be surprised to see a bunch of people buying that shit. I'm glad to be able to Watch it on crunchy roll but I'm not gonna waste that amount of money for it. It will be bought though.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on August 10, 2016, 06:23:48 PM
the budget was so low that they probably already broke even from views alone  :ganishka: . that's a scary thought too, this show being profitable  :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hanma_Baki on August 10, 2016, 09:33:10 PM
I dont know much about the anime community in general but if those youtube reviewers are anything to go by then the standards are so jawdroppingly low nowadays that it wouldnt surprise me if a few of those'll actually be bought.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Tabris on August 10, 2016, 10:41:24 PM
You know, I'd spend $450 for 12 episodes of Berserk if this was genuinely good. I'd go that far, even though it's a rip-off no matter how you see it. But given the garbage they've produced, who in their right mind would bother?

The prices they're asking are just arrogant, I don't care how 'normal' it is in Japan. This series doesn't even deserve to break even.

I come from the days of having to special order anime tapes (and eventually DVDs) and they'd cost $30-60 a piece, typically for only two, maybe three episodes. Evangelion for example cost about $460 for the VHS set. The Berserk Box of War when it was new was about $250-300?

I honestly wouldn't hesitate paying up the ass for a series if it meant having a quality series. Hell, even if there was a kickstarter type thing where people could contribute to the budget itself so it'd be easier to ensure a competent series. I know I'd throw down a nice chunk of cash if it was with a team I could have confidence in. I'd back the fuck out of it.

Though I know it's likely a scenario like that would never happen. Instead we end up with this absolute nonsense of a series.

Unfortunately now this means a proper adaptation will likely never happen. And if a continuation happens, it's just going to keep this clusterfuck of a continuity going. I just hope the rails are riding straight towards a cliff edge and they just stop with these shoddy adaptations.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on August 11, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
Japanese anime home releases for new shows usually have 2 eps. on the disc, with a price of lets say 60-80 dollar. "Our" price for 6 eps. thus "follows the norm" but the two-and-done releases of 6 + 6 are a sign that the producers know the low demand. A very rare sight. No on-disc bonus materiel too, as the usual (crappy) audio drama.
Expect some censorship Fog of War removal, i guess, but none of the usual technical fixes or re-draws. 

(Interesting new profile pic for me btw. I have similarities with him dear mods, but my hairline isnt receding. He even got a Japanese waify recently, very nice.)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Dragon Warrior on August 12, 2016, 01:02:14 PM
So, is the new anime now only 12 episodes?  it was said before in the wiki it will be 24 episdoes
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on August 12, 2016, 01:04:12 PM
(Interesting new profile pic for me btw. I have similarities with him dear mods, but my hairline isnt receding. He even got a Japanese waify recently, very nice.)

You're welcome.

So, is the new anime now only 12 episodes?  it was said before in the wiki it will be 24 episdoes

Yes, we've known it would be 12 episodes for a while now. It was never announced that it would be 24 episodes, people just guessed cluelessly. Generally speaking, you shouldn't refer yourself to wiki-type knowledge bases if you want accurate information.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on August 12, 2016, 09:15:10 PM
Guess that means we wont meet :schierke: in this adaptation.   :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on August 12, 2016, 09:21:45 PM
Guess that means we wont meet :schierke: in this adaptation.   :sad:

We already met her in the first episode and we better don`t see her again.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on August 13, 2016, 02:48:48 AM
We already met her in the first episode and we better don`t see her again.
Hey... that 1st episode doesn't exist.... don't even....
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on August 15, 2016, 08:12:12 PM
We already met her in the first episode and we better don`t see her again.

I'm pretty sure we won't. The way I saw it, it was more of a "pilot" episode. Showcasing some of the characters they wanted to put in it. To be honest I would not have done the first episode that way... It's a bit (loooooot) pointless, especially when they reintroduced Isidro 4 episodes after that.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on August 15, 2016, 08:35:51 PM
I'm pretty sure we won't. The way I saw it, it was more of a "pilot" episode. Showcasing some of the characters they wanted to put in it. To be honest I would not have done the first episode that way... It's a bit (loooooot) pointless, especially when they reintroduced Isidro 4 episodes after that.

Exactly. Why introduce Isidro that way, if you will showcase his Manga introduction  anyway?  :schierke:
Not only did it make the Bar scene worse, but hthe representation of his character wasn't good either  :rickert:

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: IncantatioN on September 02, 2016, 11:46:19 AM
http://natalie.mu/comic/news/200443 - further news about a Blu Ray Box1.

(http://natalie.mu/media/comic/1609/0902/extra/news_xlarge_berserk_bd1_sample.jpg)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on September 02, 2016, 11:49:27 AM
http://natalie.mu/comic/news/200443 - further news about a Blu Ray Box1.

Guts' face is messed up in that illustration.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on September 02, 2016, 07:26:02 PM
After the last few digital illustrations i didn't expect to see a traditional one so soon   :void:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on September 19, 2016, 02:17:27 AM
This wasn't fun: http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=15190.msg244392#msg244392
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on September 24, 2016, 12:16:29 AM
this looks pretty sick, volume 2 illustration

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtDxre0UkAAoFbq.jpg:large)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on September 24, 2016, 12:19:19 AM
Fucking hell, what a surprise from Miura! Almost worth the $450 now  :void:

Adding full color to Mozgus' body, I never noticed the blending of the hard scales and muscles before. At least, it didn't translate as well in Black and White as it does here.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on September 24, 2016, 12:43:52 AM
yup yup, it's much more defined here, in the manga the shading on and screentones were of very similar tone so it was hard to see the transition. This piece is just perfect in every way, guts looks great, his stance looks great, mozgus' is towering him with a great pose aswell. glad mozgus is getting the all this love recently, in the episode and this cover.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gummyskull on September 24, 2016, 04:03:53 AM
Wow that illustration is just gorgeous. Miura is such an inspiration.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on September 24, 2016, 05:37:47 AM
this looks pretty sick, volume 2 illustration

Amazing piece of art.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mangetsu on September 24, 2016, 07:05:15 AM
This looks fucking insane  :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on September 24, 2016, 02:09:27 PM
One of the four bonus posters you can get from purchasing Volume 2

(http://i.imgur.com/Mb0AR9k.jpg?1)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on September 24, 2016, 03:58:28 PM
One of the four bonus posters you can get from purchasing Volume 2

http://i.imgur.com/Mb0AR9k.jpg?1 (http://i.imgur.com/Mb0AR9k.jpg?1)

Looks like fan art.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on September 25, 2016, 02:06:36 PM
Looks like fan art.
Still looks better than the anime did.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on September 26, 2016, 12:24:55 AM
Here are the other 3 out of 4 bonus posters included with the purchasing of Volume 2 (all unimpressive except the last, and even that one feels a bit off):

(http://i.imgur.com/Wbdxd0R.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sBL5g1K.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/V4kiWjZ.jpg)



Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Mammon on September 26, 2016, 02:57:57 AM
Thank you DANGERDOOOOM  :daiba:

(http://i.imgur.com/sBL5g1K.jpg?1)

Guts can now use his arm-cannon without pulling the string with his teeth?  :???:

But seriously, this one could have been nice but way too bright... For a split second I thought it was  :puck: doing his attack in the middle of the drawing ^^' maybe it will look better on paper.

I don't like Guts face in the last one, even if indeed the composition of the picture could be worse.
And in the first one, Casca and Puck look terrible, Isidro is weird, and unless it's supposed to be in-movement, Guts pose is kinda awkward, and the background doesn't help.

Meh/10

I'm trying to like all this new Berserk stuff, but everything associated with the 2016 anime just seems to suck/be underwhelming.
I would have seriously paid good money for a quality adaptation and nice editions with new/extended scenes and stuff (like I did with LOTR and usually do with my favorites anime anyway), and happily...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on September 26, 2016, 05:53:38 AM
Here are the other 3 out of 4 bonus posters included with the purchasing of Volume 2 (all unimpressive except the last, and even that one feels a bit off)

Man, these really aren't very good. Can't even be compared to those Miura did.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on September 26, 2016, 01:14:13 PM
Man, these really aren't very good. Can't even be compared to those Miura did.

Yeah, even the poses are pretty uninspired.

I'm hoping that they at least uncensor it and remove the credits from the end scenes of ep 3 and 12.  Maybe with some luck, they'll go back and polish a little bit and fix some of the awful sound effects early on in the series. Maybe even the music. But that feels like wasted hope.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on September 26, 2016, 08:17:34 PM
I'm trying to like all this new Berserk stuff, but everything associated with the 2016 anime just seems to suck/be underwhelming.

I think most people who read the manga would agree with you. The face of this man (http://i.imgur.com/oFzOFrD.jpg) accurately portrays me whenever I view any new official (non-Miura) Berserk anime art. I try to be happy, but it's just not the same.

Yeah, even the poses are pretty uninspired.

I'm hoping that they at least uncensor it and remove the credits from the end scenes of ep 3 and 12.  Maybe with some luck, they'll go back and polish a little bit and fix some of the awful sound effects early on in the series. Maybe even the music. But that feels like wasted hope.

Still not worth $200
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Delta Phi on October 19, 2016, 11:39:58 PM
This was posted on Reddit and thought it was interesting.

(https://i.redd.it/piytt0serhsx.gif)

Allegedly this is a comparison of the bluray version (left) and the version that we initially received (right).
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Kaladin on October 20, 2016, 01:09:48 AM
still looks bad, definitely doesn't justify a purchase or a rewatch.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on October 20, 2016, 04:42:23 AM
Clip of the comparison between the blu-ray and tv broadcast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1RBp3oTLIA
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on October 20, 2016, 04:49:17 AM
Clip of the comparison between the blu-ray and tv broadcast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1RBp3oTLIA
So they still didnt fix most of the problems we had with it in the first place.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on October 20, 2016, 12:38:36 PM
So they still didnt fix most of the problems we had with it in the first place.

Eh I dunno, this looks like a promising improvement to me:

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/erica-beforeafter.jpg)

Of course, it's not as if facial detail and expression was THE ONLY problem this animation had. But if they can fix some of the more wooden and poorly animated expressions, that certainly make for a better experience.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on October 20, 2016, 01:50:00 PM
Farnese found herself some nipples for the blue-ray.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Skeleton on October 21, 2016, 12:57:39 AM
Farnese found herself some nipples for the blue-ray.

It looks like my boycott worked!

Seriously though, I admire them for constantly trying to make a better and better product. I know everyone shits on them, and they definitely deserve it, but they're at least trying. To me it seems like it's an issue of ability not intent. They're essentially the opposite of the people who made the trilogy films.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on October 21, 2016, 04:32:54 AM
Well one thing they still haven't fixed is guts. His face is just... there's something wrong there.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Demon Knight on October 21, 2016, 05:07:37 AM
Why didnt they make Guts has more 2D animation?

Also i hope the next anime will be all in 2D since they knew that everyone wasnt happy with the CGI.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on October 21, 2016, 11:18:12 AM
The main issue for me is that Guts still doesn't look like himself. His thin, elongated face makes him look awkward.

Well one thing they still haven't fixed is guts. His face is just... there's something wrong there.

Oops, didn't see your post. But I second this.

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on March 08, 2017, 08:24:47 PM
The S02 board is currently locked but my question is more about S01 anyway. ANN features the Japanese anime sales charts each week, sourced from Oricon. I never Berserk 2016 on them and typing out ベルセルク aka. Berserk on Oricon itself only gives me all the possible discs to buy. Does anyone know the sales figures? Thanks in advance.
(A show is usually seen as a hit with sales over 10k, if the budget wasnt out of proportion, but approaching that number is good too.)
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Lon-Solide on March 09, 2017, 02:39:01 AM
The S02 board is currently locked but my question is more about S01 anyway. ANN features the Japanese anime sales charts each week, sourced from Oricon. I never Berserk 2016 on them and typing out ベルセルク aka. Berserk on Oricon itself only gives me all the possible discs to buy. Does anyone know the sales figures? Thanks in advance.
(A show is usually seen as a hit with sales over 10k, if the budget wasnt out of proportion, but approaching that number is good too.)
According to someanithing.com, it sold 803 copies: http://www.someanithing.com/5724/comment-page-1#comment-76309
I'm not sure if this was for the first or second BD box set for season 1, but in any case it sold horribly  :ubik:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on March 09, 2017, 05:16:35 AM
The S02 board is currently locked but my question is more about S01 anyway. ANN features the Japanese anime sales charts each week, sourced from Oricon. I never Berserk 2016 on them and typing out ベルセルク aka. Berserk on Oricon itself only gives me all the possible discs to buy. Does anyone know the sales figures? Thanks in advance.
(A show is usually seen as a hit with sales over 10k, if the budget wasnt out of proportion, but approaching that number is good too.)
Vol.1 ranked 54 with 803 copies sold on its 1st week.
http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/34386/products/1194942/1/
http://katsu.ula.cc/test/read.cgi/piropiro320jp/1432224768/423-424

Vol.2 ranked 119 on its 1st week. 1st week sales number are unknown due to ranking below 100.
http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/34386/products/1194945/1/
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 09, 2017, 01:15:53 PM
Vol.1 ranked 54 with 803 copies sold on its 1st week.
http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/34386/products/1194942/1/
http://katsu.ula.cc/test/read.cgi/piropiro320jp/1432224768/423-424

Vol.2 ranked 119 on its 1st week. 1st week sales number are unknown due to ranking below 100.
http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/34386/products/1194945/1/

Well no Wonder it got that kind of ranking. Sad though, but I guess this is what you get when you do a shitty adaptation...  :sad:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 09, 2017, 02:31:17 PM
Well no Wonder it got that kind of ranking. Sad though, but I guess this is what you get when you do a shitty adaptation...  :sad:

Not only that -- a shitty adaptation streamed for free in Japan, then sold on disc for an insane-people-only price.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 09, 2017, 02:55:12 PM
Not only that -- a shitty adaptation streamed for free in Japan, then sold on disc for an insane-people-only price.

Indeed, that pricing was a bit ridiculous and by a bit I meant a lot...

True thing is, I would I have buy it at some point, but not at that price. Definitely not worth my money for the moment.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Salem on March 17, 2017, 06:45:24 PM
English dub preview.

https://youtu.be/tI7FqvX21eI
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: brokenknight on March 17, 2017, 07:07:13 PM
oh.

Well That really wasn't much better at all...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 17, 2017, 07:19:21 PM
It sounds like Ron Howard narrating Arrested Development.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 17, 2017, 07:21:16 PM
English dub preview.

THAT NEWS IS OLD.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 17, 2017, 07:25:39 PM
THAT NEWS IS OLD.

What does that even mean?!
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on March 17, 2017, 07:43:39 PM
English dub preview.

https://youtu.be/tI7FqvX21eI

 :ganishka:

I think they made a horrible choice on both Guts' and Puck's voice actors.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: brokenknight on March 17, 2017, 07:47:08 PM
I think they made a horrible choice on both Guts' and Puck's voice actors.

I don't mind Guts, but Pucks is so much more grating than I can bare. The dreamcast games voice actor is better than this if even slightly.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on March 17, 2017, 09:07:44 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/17/berserk-english-dub-clip-and-cast-revealed

English Dub cast & crew
Guts- Kaiji Tang
Puck- Sarah Williams
Karen Strassman - Casca
Griffith - Steve Cannon
Farnese - Erica Lindbeck
Serpico - Max Mittelman
Isidro - Erik Scott Kimerer
Adolf - Doug Stone
Rickert - Erica Mendez
Collette - G.K. Bowes
Narrator - Jake Eberle
Godo - Abbot Kefford
Judeau - Kyle McCarley
Schierke - Mela Lee
Mozgus - Ray Chase
Luca - Wendee Lee
Erica - Brianna Knickerbocker
King of Midland - Chris Smith
Additional Voices - Kirk Thornton
ADR Direction - Michael McConnohie
ADR Script Writer - Jalen Cassell

Dub premieres on Funimation on March 20.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on March 18, 2017, 01:38:33 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/17/berserk-english-dub-clip-and-cast-revealed

English Dub cast & crew
Guts- Kaiji Tang
Puck- Sarah Williams
Karen Strassman - Casca
Griffith - Steve Cannon
Farnese - Erica Lindbeck
Serpico - Max Mittelman
Isidro - Erik Scott Kimerer
Adolf - Doug Stone
Rickert - Erica Mendez
Collette - G.K. Bowes
Narrator - Jake Eberle
Godo - Abbot Kefford
Judeau - Kyle McCarley
Schierke - Mela Lee
Mozgus - Ray Chase
Luca - Wendee Lee
Erica - Brianna Knickerbocker
King of Midland - Chris Smith
Additional Voices - Kirk Thornton
ADR Direction - Michael McConnohie
ADR Script Writer - Jalen Cassell

Dub premieres on Funimation on March 20.

 Can we just take a moment to appreciate a few of these names? I mean... Knickerbocker.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Demon Knight on March 18, 2017, 02:44:26 AM
 :sad: Marc Diraison is no longer GUTS???


NOOOOOOOOOOO!


Edit

Ah well Kaiji Tang did voice Kenshiro before. I think he might do a decent job for Guts  then. We'll see
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on March 20, 2017, 02:30:18 PM
Season 1 dub is up on Funimation. https://www.funimation.com/shows/berserk/
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sareth on March 20, 2017, 02:35:37 PM
Does Funimation's video player usually run like shit?

Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on March 20, 2017, 03:25:13 PM
It did when I was watching One Piece on their site before Crunchyroll started simulcasting it. I guess they never upgraded their video player.  :schierke:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sareth on March 20, 2017, 03:37:32 PM
It's taken almost an hour and I haven't finished one episode because it buffers every few seconds. Absolutely ridiculous for something they expect people to pay for.

So far, the main cast sounds pretty mediocre.

Edit: "See? Her ass would look good on fire."  :ganishka: What the fuck, Guts.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 20, 2017, 06:36:22 PM
Apparently there's some scandal with the original english voice actor cast not being asked to come back. Sean Schemmel, the voice actor for Goku, went on a big twitter rant about it after finding out why, though he hasn't disclosed the reason. Perhaps some type of nepotism.  Anyway, it's an interesting tidbit.  Anyone know anything more?
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Aazealh on March 20, 2017, 06:45:48 PM
Apparently there's some scandal with the original english voice actor cast not being asked to come back. Sean Schemmel, the voice actor for Goku, went on a big twitter rant about it after finding out why, though he hasn't disclosed the reason. Perhaps some type of nepotism.  Anyway, it's an interesting tidbit.  Anyone know anything more?

Aww, the complete amateurs who did a shitjob 15 years ago weren't asked to come back? :judo: What a shame.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on March 21, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
So i was playing FE heroes and i happen to have a 5 star dragon waifu, well the name at the bottom shocked me. Her voice actress that is. (https://i.redditmedia.com/auoIsQ2gdAK88_qWaAlm_15txNcLedr-OcdQsGmlpiU.jpg?w=320&s=49603df1b05f23065127c2b9609298c8)
Oh the coincidences.... also i had to search for this image. Couldnt figure out how to use the screenshot on my phone  :???:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sareth on March 22, 2017, 11:09:31 AM
So I decided to skim through the dub a bit more and in episode 9 Farnese says to Serpico "You told our father, didn't you?"  :???:
Good work, script writer.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: ApostleBob on March 22, 2017, 02:09:29 PM
So I decided to skim through the dub a bit more and in episode 9 Farnese says to Serpico "You told our father, didn't you?"  :???:
Good work, script writer.

That's beyond a bungle. It's a mistake that's actually true, but just isn't supposed to be revealed until much later. And Farnese still doesn't know. What a bunch of amateurs.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sareth on March 22, 2017, 03:56:19 PM
That's beyond a bungle. It's a mistake that's actually true, but just isn't supposed to be revealed until much later. And Farnese still doesn't know. What a bunch of amateurs.

It gets better! Jerome actually refers to Serpico as Farnese's "flunky brother". Holy shit.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 22, 2017, 04:25:35 PM
Farnese says to Serpico "You told our father, didn't you?"  :???:
Jerome actually refers to Serpico as Farnese's "flunky brother". Holy shit.

.....Jesus, this is almost as bad as "things have gotten pretty bad since Griffith became king."
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 22, 2017, 06:11:02 PM
"things have gotten pretty bad since Griffith became king."

That got me soooo confused in my early Berserk years... How can they mess things that much?  :mozgus:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sareth on March 22, 2017, 06:32:55 PM
Yep, the English dub somehow managed to make Berserk 2016 an even bigger train wreck. None of the voices really fit the characters and sounds like it's being delivered by fan dubbers. And the script is clunky AF. I almost want to watch the whole thing again to see what else they fucked up.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Johnny Apples on March 22, 2017, 06:36:45 PM
That got me soooo confused in my early Berserk years... How can they mess things that much?  :mozgus:

That's Funimation for you!!  :ganishka:
They might not have brought back Sean Schemmel and the other DBZ dub VAs for the 2016 Berserk anime. But it sure as shit looks like they used the same incompetent, shitty DBZ dub script writers for the new Berserk series' dub after all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebaO6aoCj2A
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sareth on March 22, 2017, 10:17:14 PM
I think I'm done checking out the dub. I had almost forgotten just how half-assed this adaptation was and the dry voice acting makes it even more unbearable.

They say Isi-do-ro instead of Isidro.

They interpreted Skull Knight's warning that Guts can't both go after Griffith and protect Casca as, "Keep the number of people you care for down to one." And he refers to karma rather than causality.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Gamehowitzer on March 23, 2017, 12:54:44 AM
I think I'm done checking out the dub. I had almost forgotten just how half-assed this adaptation was and the dry voice acting makes it even more unbearable.

They say Isi-do-ro instead of Isidro.

They interpreted Skull Knight's warning that Guts can't both go after Griffith and protect Casca as, "Keep the number of people you care for down to one." And he refers to karma rather than causality.
Well with that said it goes to show how much people with jobs care about ones favorite franchise.
Thanks for skimming through the dub so we didn't have to.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Hitoshura on March 23, 2017, 02:28:26 AM
That's Funimation for you!!  :ganishka:
They might not have brought back Sean Schemmel and the other DBZ dub VAs for the 2016 Berserk anime. But it sure as shit looks like they used the same incompetent, shitty DBZ dub script writers for the new Berserk series' dub after all

Crunchyroll hired Bang Zoom for this dub. Funimation is only streaming it and distributing the discs.

So I decided to skim through the dub a bit more and in episode 9 Farnese says to Serpico "You told our father, didn't you?"  :???:
Good work, script writer.
It gets better! Jerome actually refers to Serpico as Farnese's "flunky brother". Holy shit.
I think I'm done checking out the dub. I had almost forgotten just how half-assed this adaptation was and the dry voice acting makes it even more unbearable.

They say Isi-do-ro instead of Isidro.

They interpreted Skull Knight's warning that Guts can't both go after Griffith and protect Casca as, "Keep the number of people you care for down to one." And he refers to karma rather than causality.
Oh, wow. It's worse than I thought it was going to be. :magni:
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 23, 2017, 11:48:48 AM
Crunchyroll hired Bang Zoom for this dub. Funimation is only streaming it and distributing the discs.
Oh, wow. It's worse than I thought it was going to be. :magni:

Well one thing for sure is that if I ever decide to get my hands on that serie, I will keep watching it with the subtitles. But will I get to that point? I'm not sure it's Worth my money...
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Sareth on March 23, 2017, 11:22:20 PM
Oh, wow. It's worse than I thought it was going to be. :magni:

It's baffling. Someone on Reddit pointed out one I missed, Serpico referring to Farnese as his sister in his monologue while they escort Mozgus to Albion.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on March 31, 2017, 01:53:31 PM
The first season is on sale on Steam for $4.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/600850/

Alternatively, you could import the two Blu Ray collections (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/GNXA-1861) for ~$400.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: residentgrigo on September 26, 2017, 04:47:35 PM
Here is sales data for the show, of the final volume too: 577 Blu Ray copies in the first week... with the promise of getting an even 600 in the second week, i guess.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-09-26/japan-animation-blu-ray-disc-ranking-september-18-24/.121870

I would love to know how much money has been lost with animated Berserk this decade. Better luck in the next.
Title: Re: New Berserk Anime for 2016
Post by: Walter on September 26, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
At least they can market it as a LIMITED RELEASE!  :ganishka: