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Title: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Heiji on March 22, 2016, 05:14:59 AM
38th volume out june 24. From this volume, cover will have new design. And look like will have a reimpression of old volumes with this new cover design. More information in Young Animal #08 (april 8).
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Aazealh on March 22, 2016, 06:49:36 AM
38th volume out june 24. From this volume, cover will have new design. And look like will have a reimpression of old volumes with this new cover design. More information in Young Animal #08 (april 8).

Thanks for the info. I wonder what the new cover design will be like. That also means us old timers are going to have vintage volumes eventually, when the new covers are widespread.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Heiji on March 22, 2016, 06:51:54 AM
(http://8.t.imgbox.com/hTRUtGq3.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/hTRUtGq3)
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Aazealh on March 22, 2016, 06:56:24 AM
That's... not better than the old design. :sad:

Also, random Guts pose on volume 38, who'd have thought. :schierke:

EDIT: Man, I can't get over how cheesy this new design is. It's like something straight out from the 80s, from an old Dungeons & Dragons manual. The little skull, beherit and brand in the corners... The vines on the "columns"... The smoke on top and the little wings in the middle that, in the first cover to ever sport this design, just so happen to come from each side of Guts' head, making it look ridiculous.

I'll be the first to say the cover design could have used an overhaul, but who in hell came up with this thing? It's like a step back from the old one.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Walter on March 22, 2016, 10:46:04 AM
As always, I expected more from the cover art. A bit of a disappointment that such a Falconia focused portion doesn't get represented on the cover -- instead, another arbitrary Guts pose.

And the redesign, my biggest problem with it is that it feels cheap, and done by someone not very familiar with the series' overall style.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Menosgade on March 22, 2016, 11:36:01 AM
 The columns around with vines seem nice ... kind of remembers Dark Souls - no idea why - but it seems fit as it resembles Falconia. But, the smoke and Beherit around his head really don't seem to fit, feels like pretty generic and uncreative.  It Could really be something else related to Falconia, giving the impression Guts would be there somehow, someday, or not. Would be cool and fitting one way or the other. Maybe 2 tiny of those hoplite statues of the city would be cool, but a greco-roman aesthetic is just about great.But I agree with Walter on this, the city definitively could be focus; reborn Femto or Skellig also are nice alternatives.

 Seems the intent on remaking old covers is a good idea, however, this one didn't end up well. Everything made of metal: Berserk armor, gauntlet and Dragonslayer have the same kind of opaque, blueish finish. That just doesn't fit to me. The arm and sword are made of iron, which is black, and the armor for all we know is pretty much black as the abyss. :beast:
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Earthlingzing on March 22, 2016, 11:39:47 AM
I hope Dark Horse will adapt the new Berserk logo at least, their current font is awful.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on March 22, 2016, 12:04:44 PM
Happy to have a release date, thanks. But I agree with what has already been said about this new design, I don't really like it either, the current design appears to be more modern than this one.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Mangetsu on March 22, 2016, 12:22:00 PM
Disappointed with this  :puck:
Nonethless there is still the 2- sided Poster inside the volume, hope we get some nice Illustrations involving Silat & the Tapasa.

Edit: And it was SO obvious that they would release this Volume around the time the new Anime starts, to once again promote the anime series.
Just makes me think more and more that the monthly shedule  was used to match the announce date for the new anime series.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Aazealh on March 22, 2016, 01:09:12 PM
Edit: And it was SO obvious that they would release this Volume around the time the new Anime starts, to once again promote the anime series.
Just makes me think more and more that the monthly shedule  was used to match the announce date for the new anime series.

I don't think there's any doubt of that.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Delta Phi on March 22, 2016, 01:35:12 PM
Oh man, this is weird. It's almost like Jets decided to land in the middle ground between their old covers and Dark Horse's  :magni:

I still don't have a Japanese set, but now that I see the new design, I'm going to have to get the original 1-37 before these new editions become ubiquitous.

And thanks again Heiji! You always bring good news!
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: jackson_hurley on March 22, 2016, 01:57:38 PM
Same here! I only have 4 volumes in Japanese. I'll have to rush to get them before they reprint the older ones.

As for the visual, I don't know why but that  one reminds me of volume 27 cover.

I'm having a hard time seeing the picture right so I'm mixed between liking the new design and not liking it.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on March 22, 2016, 04:22:12 PM
Not only I disliked that artwork the first time it appeared in Young Animal, but now, they are using it for volume 38... His oldest artworks were so much better.
And that new cover design... seriously... why do they have to change everything for something so horrible..? I don't get it.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Kaladin on March 22, 2016, 05:57:24 PM
Very Very Disappointing....i don't mind the new guts illustration as much as others but don't think it should be the face of the new volume but like mangetsu said, at least we still have the double sided posters...and they better be good. I'm actually fine with the new volume design, doesn't bother me at all and its cool that they're reprinting the older volumes with the new style so the consistency stays. can't say that for every manga that changes volume style at one point. i wonder how foreign publishers will take this, i own the GlÚnat berserk set which has a very close design to the original Japanese design and GlÚnat have been doing ALOT of berserk reprints lately spanning across every single volume, i wonder if they'll use this design going forward or just add the guts illustration to their current design. if i remember correctly, DH is also coming out with an omnibus edition of berserk sometime in the future, if so PLEASE use this instead of their current design which is trash, especially the logo.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Walter on March 22, 2016, 06:17:31 PM
at least we still have the double sided posters...and they better be good.

My hope: Rakshas hovering over the beheaded statue (of Gaiseric!) &  Daiba feeding cheese to a swarm of rats.

Honorable mention: Locus crushing the ledge in anger. Puck Vs Albatross dramatic reenactment.

More likely: Griffith staring emotionlessly off the balcony (at Rickert). Tea party.

These, along with the little image insert on the dust jacket, are my favorite parts of new volumes, since the covers have been disappointing to me for years.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Aazealh on March 22, 2016, 06:42:45 PM
i don't mind the new guts illustration as much as others but don't think it should be the face of the new volume

I think it's the same for most of us. I actually like that illustration, it's pretty neat if without surprises as far as depicting Guts goes. But it's just not appropriate for that volume. Thing is, from a marketing perspective I can't really fault Hakusensha for pushing Guts forward everytime. It's what sells to the masses. I just wish that was not a factor.

More likely: Griffith staring emotionlessly off the balcony (at Rickert). Tea party.

I'd be surprised if Rakshas wasn't featured, given his central role in the volume.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Lawliet on March 23, 2016, 07:18:33 PM
Oh boy, I don't know what to feel about this cover. I agree with the others though, the cover doesn't match the contents of the volume at all.

I wish they didn't make a new design. I was planning to eventually collect all the original Japanese volumes too, but now I don't know if I should wait until they reprint all of them first. The way my mind is wired, I like consistency. It would drive me nuts to have a collection that looks different starting with Vol 38.  :femto:
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on March 23, 2016, 08:16:47 PM
Puck Vs Albatross dramatic reenactment.

I would love it!
And I'll add that one representing Molda flying with her broom wouldn't surprise me, introducing the new character. Except if episode 343 isn't featured in.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Walter on March 23, 2016, 08:41:05 PM
Except if episode 343 isn't featured in.

I can't imagine it'd be left out. That being said, there hasn't been a volume with 10 episodes in a while, but there's no reason NOT to include 343 this time just because of that dogma.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Uriel on March 26, 2016, 04:05:31 AM
I'll go against the grain. I like the new borders a lot more than the old style. What I do hate is that volumes 1-37 are going to be different on the shelf from 38 onward. OCD nightmare.

However, the choice of Guts is disappointing and his placement in the frame is a bit odd. Smoke out the ears, indeed.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Griffith on April 05, 2016, 08:59:23 PM
The new design is indeed GROSS. The old one was antiquated and could use an update but at least it was relatively clean. This is more like a downgrade.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Patrick on April 07, 2016, 03:02:34 PM
Higher quality image of the new volume cover.

http://imgur.com/qvPKMGQ
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Aazealh on April 07, 2016, 03:11:48 PM
Thanks for the picture, Patrick. It's interesting that they removed the little wings at the top. Probably looked too ridiculous, even for them. This is still super cheesy though. I wish they'd have a change of heart.
Another thing is the publisher is now Young Animal Comics. I guess it makes sense to have renamed it from Jets Comics after all these years, but I'll miss that little dino. :judo:
Also, what's the point of having intricate artwork on the cover if you're going to put permanent text over it (publisher's name over the art in the lower right corner)? It's just bad design.
The only thing I like is what they did with Miura's name.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on April 07, 2016, 05:56:59 PM
Higher quality image of the new volume cover.

http://imgur.com/qvPKMGQ

Thanks, it's not as bad as I thought. But is this a bat at the bottom of it?
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Walter on April 07, 2016, 06:00:17 PM
That border still looks like a hodgepodge of Berserk-themed clip art.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Delta Phi on April 07, 2016, 06:07:55 PM
Another thing is the publisher is now Young Animal Comics. I guess it makes sense to have renamed it from Jets Comics after all these years, but I'll miss that little dino. :judo:

Noticed that too and thought it was interesting. It makes sense to unify their publications.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: MASTER-AMIR on April 07, 2016, 07:56:36 PM
I think The new changes in Berserk its not cool enough :sad:
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Kaladin on April 07, 2016, 11:54:21 PM
i like it  :guts:. im guessing that berserk logo is gonna change colors like the old style japanese version did. i wanna see how the older volumes look in this new border
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Walter on April 08, 2016, 01:37:52 AM
i wanna see how the older volumes look in this new border

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/eclipsenew.jpg)
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Delta Phi on April 08, 2016, 02:24:48 AM
Ouch
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Johnny Apples on April 08, 2016, 02:59:30 AM
I don't think I feel a problem with the new cover design, with its borders and all. But the volume 38 cover illustration itself is absolute garbage. This shot of Guts gripping his DS while staring menacingly at the viewer? I mean, wow, who'd have thought? This illustration concept has already been done numerous times, and has become repetitive and boring. But even worse, for this particular volume, placing Guts on the cover is also downright misleading. Rickert is the real star here, not Guts.  Guts hardly even appears in the volume 38 episodes, if at all. After all these years of waiting, we also finally see Rakshas' true face and full extent of his power is revealed. Plus, Silat and Bakiraka join in on the action. Volume 38 is supposed to mark Rickert's shining moment. Here, he at last rises to the occasion and makes the transition from being a mere supporting character into a full-fledged warrior. Those aforementioned characters are the ones who should have made the cover of volume 38. Not Guts. And yet, thanks to Hakusensha's snafu, Guts is hogging up the spotlight yet again. I can't help but think, was the re-branding of Jets Comics into Young Animal Comics accompanied by a "regime change" of sorts over at the Young Animal/Hakusensha? If the magazine's old guard staff has been replaced by new faces, is it possible they changed the art directors (or whoever is in charge of creating cover art concepts) as well? This isn't the first time a Miura-penned manga had suffered in terms of cover art quality. Just few years ago, Gigantomakhia tankobon was released also sporting a terrible looking cover illustration. Something's gotta be behind this continuing pattern of unimaginative and mediocre cover art. 

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/eclipsenew.jpg)

Oh, my... :magni:

Okay, I take it back. Screw the new design (http://skullknight.net/images/gutsbarf.gif)
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Grail on April 08, 2016, 03:31:19 AM
http://www.skullknight.net/images/eclipsenew.jpg

I think this picture says more than all of the criticism for the cover so far... in other words: blech!

Now I'm wondering about this, though. Is Miura's cover art going to have to be specifically designed to fit this new layout? Are they all going to have to be symmetrical? Makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes with this decision.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Kaladin on April 08, 2016, 04:42:33 AM
(http://www.skullknight.net/images/eclipsenew.jpg)

:schnoz:

well then....
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Aazealh on April 08, 2016, 01:00:10 PM
I don't think I feel a problem with the new cover design, with its borders and all. But the volume 38 cover illustration itself is absolute garbage.

Really? The cover design is A-OK but the cover itself is "absolute garbage"? :schierke: I think you need to get your priorities in check.

This shot of Guts gripping his DS while staring menacingly at the viewer? I mean, wow, who'd have thought? This illustration concept has already been done numerous times, and has become repetitive and boring. [...] I can't help but think, was the re-branding of Jets Comics into Young Animal Comics accompanied by a "regime change" of sorts over at the Young Animal/Hakusensha? If the magazine's old guard staff has been replaced by new faces, is it possible they changed the art directors (or whoever is in charge of creating cover art concepts) as well? This isn't the first time a Miura-penned manga had suffered in terms of cover art quality. Just few years ago, Gigantomakhia tankobon was released also sporting a terrible looking cover illustration. Something's gotta be behind this continuing pattern of unimaginative and mediocre cover art.

I get that you're frustrated, but if anything hasn't changed with volume 38 it's the policy regarding cover art. It's been the same since the series started, so I don't see the need for a conspiracy theory about some evil new staff here. And let me remind you as well that the one drawing the covers is Miura himself, so if you truly think the art is "mediocre and unimaginative", you should address that criticism at him and only him.

Now I'm wondering about this, though. Is Miura's cover art going to have to be specifically designed to fit this new layout? Are they all going to have to be symmetrical? Makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes with this decision.

Yeah, this is a good question. His art was usually cut for the previous covers, but will they have enough leeway to be able to retrofit all of his illustrations in this new format? I'm curious to see the results... And whether this affects future covers.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Griffith on April 08, 2016, 09:40:20 PM
That new cover looks like some tween girl's young adult fantasy novel. They just need to add Schierke pensively making eyes at him. :schierke:
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Oburi on April 09, 2016, 12:37:58 AM
http://www.skullknight.net/images/eclipsenew.jpg


Wow. Just Wow. That is absolute rubbish. Who's coming up with this shit? Who's making these decisions? I'd almost expect this type of cover from Dark Horse. Really blows my mind. It's not like it's a case of just the die-hard fans being overly critical either. The new cover design is pure comical trash and it's insulting to Berserk as a series and the fact that it's going to retroactively damage past covers is like salt on the wound. Miura must not have control over stuff like this because I can't imagine he'd be happy about it.

Yet again Berserk is treated with embarrassing and disrespectful decisions that come from people who you would think haven't even read the series or have very little to no understanding about it. At the end of the day I really just feel bad for Miura.  So much of the merchandise and general byproducts of his lifelong work are terrible and misrepresent the series. From this new design, to the last anime trilogy, to "GROOVY". 

Sorry, had to rant a bit. :azan:
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Johnny Apples on April 09, 2016, 03:30:38 AM
Really? The cover design is A-OK but the cover itself is "absolute garbage"? :schierke: I think you need to get your priorities in check.

I get that you're frustrated, but if anything hasn't changed with volume 38 it's the policy regarding cover art. It's been the same since the series started, so I don't see the need for a conspiracy theory about some evil new staff here.

Ahahah, no, not "evil"  :ganishka:

Incompetent and untalented, more like. Either Hakusensha have hired new designers and art directors who aren't as good as the old ones. Or they've gotten rid of their art design department altogether, and outsourced the task of creating new Berserk cover design to some shoddy third-party company. There could be many possible reasons. Whichever the case, we ended up with this rubbish in the end all the same.

And let me remind you as well that the one drawing the covers is Miura himself, so if you truly think the art is "mediocre and unimaginative", you should address that criticism at him and only him.


Yes, of course, I know that Miura himself draws the cover illustrations. But I also know that Hakusensha are the ones who make the final decision as to what ends up on the upcoming tankobon cover and what doesn't. From what Walter has told me, Miura most likely provides Hakusensha/Jets Comics several concept cover art options and then Hakusensha chooses the one they want for the cover of upcoming volume. If that is true and this is how the system works (and I trust Walter), then for any cover art fails and disasters, all the blame should fall squarely on Hakusensha's shoulders. Not on Miura's, Since he's commissioned by Hakusensha to make the cover art that they want, rather than being given a choice in the matter.

Yet again Berserk is treated with embarrassing and disrespectful decisions that come from people who you would think haven't even read the series or have very little to no understanding about it. At the end of the day I really just feel bad for Miura.  So much of the merchandise and general byproducts of his lifelong work are terrible and misrepresent the series. From this new design, to the last anime trilogy, to "GROOVY". 

I second that, Oburi. I feel the same as you do. The question is, what can we do about it? I know that fans can write their comments and questions to Kentaro Miura via the Young Animal magazine. But does the same option exists with respect to Hakusensha? Can the fans send their feedback/comments to Hakusensha itself directly on what they feel about both the volume 38 illustration and the new cover art design? Perhaps there is a way to make Hakusensha relent before it's too late.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Walter on April 09, 2016, 09:56:03 AM

Wow. Just Wow. That is absolute rubbish. Who's coming up with this shit?

Uhhhh, that was a badly done Photoshop by me, man  :ganishka:

. If that is true and this is how the system works (and I trust Walter),

I believe I prefaced that by saying that no one actually knows the process., and that was just my guess.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Aazealh on April 09, 2016, 12:21:24 PM
Incompetent and untalented, more like. Either Hakusensha have hired new designers and art directors who aren't as good as the old ones. Or they've gotten rid of their art design department altogether, and outsourced the task of creating new Berserk cover design to some shoddy third-party company. There could be many possible reasons. Whichever the case, we ended up with this rubbish in the end all the same.

So what are we talking about now? The new cover design? Because in this case, sure, it's a miss. However that doesn't necessarily require new people, just a string of bad decisions. But if you're still talking about the cover illustration itself, then I'll repeat that nothing has changed in that regard from how it was 10 years ago.

Yes, of course, I know that Miura himself draws the cover illustrations. But I also know that Hakusensha are the ones who make the final decision as to what ends up on the upcoming tankobon cover and what doesn't.

No, you don't know that. Nobody does. Whatever input he gets from the publisher is probably limited to "it's better if it's Guts". So I'll say it again: if you're unhappy with the cover illustration, lay it at Miura's feet.

The question is, what can we do about it? I know that fans can write their comments and questions to Kentaro Miura via the Young Animal magazine. But does the same option exists with respect to Hakusensha? Can the fans send their feedback/comments to Hakusensha itself directly on what they feel about both the volume 38 illustration and the new cover art design?

Haha, I think you're a bit confused here. The contact address for Berserk goes straight to the Young Animal office. Those are the guys you want to give your feedback to, so there's no problem here. Hakusensha is just Young Animal's parent company. You can also contact them easily (even online) (http://www.hakusensha.co.jp/contact/), but I don't think it'd be more effective.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Uriel on April 10, 2016, 12:54:14 AM
Ugh, upon closer inspection, I'm definitely not feeling it as much..
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Tabris on April 11, 2016, 11:18:29 AM
I don't mind the cover art itself so much. Definitely one of my least favorites. It's not especially interesting at all. But I really don't hate it or anything. What does bother me is how unrepresentative it is of the content (as other people have said). It would have suited the sea god part or something a lot better. There were way more interesting and epic choices for the cover.

The damn border thing is just silly though. It looks better to me now that I've seen a higher resolution, but that doesn't say a hell of a lot. It just seems... tacky.
Title: Re: New cover design + volume 38 cover
Post by: Griffith on April 11, 2016, 01:52:44 PM
The cover image is a fine depiction of Guts, and the covers have never consistently represented the content of the volumes, but unfortunately it just doesn't go very well with this new border and gives it a cheesy YA fantasy vibe (I like the darker thumbnail version better, minus the wings, unfortunately the large image is probably more representative of what it looks like in person). Then again, the cover of volume 13 doesn't look good with the border either, so maybe nothing will.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on May 12, 2016, 03:13:18 PM
http://www.s-book.net/plsql/slib_detail?isbn=9784592144380

ISBN info is now available. We're a little over a month away from release.

Preorder available on Amazon Japan (http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%99%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AF-38-%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%83%E3%83%84%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E4%B8%89%E6%B5%A6%E5%BB%BA%E5%A4%AA%E9%83%8E/dp/4592144384/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464056793&sr=8-1&keywords=%E3%83%99%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AF+38). Slightly bigger final picture shows they've added some text at the top of the cover.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Mangetsu on May 25, 2016, 04:03:03 PM
Im not sure if this is a real thing, but it seems as if there will be 2 versions of the cover.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjNl4SQUkAAYaBm.jpg:large)

Here the link http://ddnavi.com/news/302203/a/
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on May 25, 2016, 04:13:44 PM
Im not sure if this is a real thing, but it seems as if there will be 2 versions of the cover.

The one on the right is a revamped cover of volume 1. They had announced it a while back when the cover preview appeared in YA. Wasn't it mentioned in the thread? I thought it was. Maybe I forgot to.
Anyway, I'm not a big fan. I think I actually like the original cover better... The parallelism idea in itself remains cool though.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on May 25, 2016, 06:00:59 PM
Ah, so we finally see the new Vol 1 cover aaaaaand... well, it's tough to be impressed by that. If he wanted to a parallel cover, exemplifying the changes in Guts between then and now, I feel that Miura's a talented artist and could have done something more ambitious than this.

Also, does that really say Berselk?
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on May 25, 2016, 06:03:19 PM
Also, does that really say Berselk?

Jesus. I'm really missing a facepalming emoticon right now.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 25, 2016, 06:18:56 PM
Jesus. I'm really missing a facepalming emoticon right now.

Haha indeed. How can one mess up the title... Jesus... Make that a double facepalm emoticon..
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: MrFlibble on May 25, 2016, 07:32:01 PM
The one on the right is a revamped cover of volume 1. They had announced it a while back when the cover preview appeared in YA. Wasn't it mentioned in the thread? I thought it was. Maybe I forgot to.
Anyway, I'm not a big fan. I think I actually like the original cover better... The parallelism idea in itself remains cool though.

Will they be doing new covers for every volume?
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on May 25, 2016, 07:59:36 PM
Will they be doing new covers for every volume?

I don't think so. At any rate, only this one has been announced.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Kaladin on June 24, 2016, 10:54:17 AM
Simply stunning.

(http://i.imgur.com/G6MdOjt.jpg)

here is a link to the 2nd poster
http://i.imgur.com/531CGrr.jpg
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on June 24, 2016, 12:00:21 PM
Wow, the Erika and Rickert one is cute (love Erika's face), but the one of the elves is awesome. Absolutely love it!
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on June 24, 2016, 12:00:28 PM
Fucking incredible. A whole new art style for Miura's painting.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Kaladin on June 24, 2016, 12:11:38 PM
the new volume cover, the magazine cover, and these new paintings are definitely digital. i wonder if he's limiting digital for paintings alone and not the manga itself, and if he if he is using a tablet to draw the manga, i wonder to what extent. his artstyle is going through a big change, from the last few episodes up until now, if he is indeed drawing the manga digitally, that could explain some of the breaks he took. he probably spend some of that time learning and adjusting to the digital medium, this is of course IF he is indeed drawing digitally and not just painting digitally. Not only that but if he's already this good with digital painting imagine him a few years down the line.... :badbone:

this is all very exciting  :ubik:

also, the poster with Rickert and Erika is nicely painted but i wish he showed the Bakiraka some love  :judo: . Silat deserves better than this! just imagine how badass Silat and the Tapasa would look in a poster.

finally, here is almost all the volume covers in the new style with a decent resolution, only 2-3 are missing http://imgur.com/a/TEVlI

I'm actually digging alot of these, others not so much, for example why is the berserk logo on volume 12 blue? shouldn't it be red or purple?
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Squiddot on June 24, 2016, 12:49:01 PM
Trying to figure out whether the volume 38 cover was digitally drawn or not was racking my brain the last few days. Thankfully this image is a little clearer and has settled it. I notice Miura has a bit of jaggyness on the borders of shapes, and the highlights don't quite go all the way to the edge. But just like his ink work I imagine he'll be refining and developing his process as time goes by. And the main focus, the elves are BEAUTIFUL.

On the topic of the ink work though, i'm throwing my hat in the ring and saying that its still traditional. Though until YA comes out digitally i can't tell for certain, those damn korean filters blur and sharpen everywhere and make it impossible to tell. Someone actually noticed that a specific pose of Azan from behind in the previous episode was used about 3 times in this episode! Though it wasn't a straight copy-paste and rather a trace judging by the slight inconsistencies, that's one point to traditional i guess.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Uriel on June 24, 2016, 01:04:54 PM
finally, here is almost all the volume covers in the new style with a decent resolution, only 2-3 are missing http://imgur.com/a/TEVlI

Gods, Volume 27 still looks so good...

Anyway. Volume 38 is sat next to me as we speak. Although the color posters are gorgeous, and expertly drawn and shaded... I'm not a big fan. This digital style (which I believe it is) doesn't have the grit I look for in Miura's coloured works. There is a odd fidelity to them that has been bothering me since I first clapped eyes on them; a distracting glossiness. Miura is, of course, entitled to change his medium or methods to his heart's content, and, naturally, with time he'll achieve even greater wonders with these tools. I'd wholeheartedly agree that it already works really well with bright tones and strong saturation, like with Elfhelm's poster... but the digital stitches are showing, and it's off-putting.

Would love to hear everyone else's thoughts.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Lithrael on June 24, 2016, 04:22:48 PM
I think the digital work looks a little off-putting too but I also think that we can chalk that directly up to the nuts and bolts of a media change.  I'm frankly surprised to see the digital brushwork on, for example, the pumpkins; it's what you get when you use default round brushes.  The exact same strokes would produce a much more visually appealing look if he used a more sophisticated brush.  And the line quality itself is what you get when you have line/brush smoothing/stabilization turned completely off. 

So it looks like the work of someone who has just picked up digital tools and is self-teaching, and hasn't got around to everything yet and/or hasn't had an experienced digital painter over in person for tips and pointers. 
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: RaffoBaffo on June 24, 2016, 05:34:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/531CGrr.jpg
The image look good, but the brown eyes...
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Eluvei on June 24, 2016, 05:38:43 PM
I'm not a huge fan of how the cover painting turned out, but I like the two posters. There's definitely a lot of room for improvement, the blurring effect in the distance in the elves poster looks a little jarring, and some elements show too much that they're in separate layers from other elements. I'm personally happy he's started working digitally, it's unexpected.

I think the digital work looks a little off-putting too but I also think that we can chalk that directly up to the nuts and bolts of a media change.  I'm frankly surprised to see the digital brushwork on, for example, the pumpkins; it's what you get when you use default round brushes. The exact same strokes would produce a much more visually appealing look if he used a more sophisticated brush.

I don't really see using the default round brush as the mark of a beginner. There are plenty of very famous digital painters that use the simple round brush most of the time. I do think the overlaying of several low opacity brush strokes on the pumpkin makes it look a little confusing, but I don't think the effect it produces is entirely unsuccessful.

And the line quality itself is what you get when you have line/brush smoothing/stabilization turned completely off.

I may be wrong here, but while some of his strokes appear to have an unusually sudden leap in size, related to pen sensitivity, the stroke quality itself looks normal to me. Doesn't look like it has smoothing turned off at all; at least it doesn't give that impression where they're the most apparent, which is the armor in the cover. I'd say 10% of the lines look wobbly.  :troll:
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on June 24, 2016, 07:35:38 PM
I'm not a huge fan of how the cover painting turned out, but I like the two posters. There's definitely a lot of room for improvement, the blurring effect in the distance in the elves poster looks a little jarring, and some elements show too much that they're in separate layers from other elements. I'm personally happy he's started working digitally, it's unexpected.

I can't really say I'm happy he moved to digital, since traditional paint work has its charm and is all too rare these days. But I can't argue against all the benefits digital tools offer, even only in terms of time saved. Beyond the technical details though I just like those two artworks, and I don't think the blur will even be too noticeable in mini-poster form. Looking forward to see what he does in the future, too.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Kaladin on June 24, 2016, 07:54:08 PM
yeah the artwork doesn't look digitized when looking at the physical volume, its only when looking at the paintings in high resolution. i think later down the line he'll get so good that people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on June 24, 2016, 09:00:40 PM
For those interested I bought volume 1 and volume 38 digitally on http://www.hakusensha-e.net/ (http://www.hakusensha-e.net/) and volume 1 doesn't include any new illustrations aside from the cover. However the original color pages are there, which is pretty neat.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: JMP on June 24, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
I love the poster of the elves! The one of Erika and Rickert is nice, too. I just learned that June 24th is Fairy Day. https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/fairy-day/ (https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/fairy-day/) Kinda neat to get to see this painting of my favorite elves today.  :puck:  :iva:
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Kaladin on June 24, 2016, 09:31:47 PM
For those interested I bought volume 1 and volume 38 digitally on http://www.hakusensha-e.net/ (http://www.hakusensha-e.net/) and volume 1 doesn't include any new illustrations aside from the cover. However the original color pages are there, which is pretty neat.

oh wow very nice! quick question, those color pages, are they on the same type of paper as the rest of the pages in the volume or did they use higher quality glossy papers for them?
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on June 25, 2016, 07:09:43 AM
oh wow very nice! quick question, those color pages, are they on the same type of paper as the rest of the pages in the volume or did they use higher quality glossy papers for them?

Sorry you're mistaken, like I said in the post I bought the digital editions, not the physical ones. I've looked around a bit online but can't seem to find the new version of volume 1. I'm not sure it's available yet and I don't know if it will have those pages in color.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Kaladin on June 25, 2016, 07:26:16 AM
Sorry you're mistaken, like I said in the post I bought the digital editions, not the physical ones. I've looked around a bit online but can't seem to find the new version of volume 1. I'm not sure it's available yet and I don't know if it will have those pages in color.

oh my apology, misread your post, anyway hopefully the physical re-release does have the opening pages in color, they charge the same amount for it as the rest of the volumes so hopefully this time around its included.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Cyrus Jong on June 25, 2016, 09:44:11 AM
It's always interesting to see an artist try new things, even if the results are not always straight-up improvements of previous work. Not a fan of the cover personally, but that's in large part due to not really enjoying another piece of Guts striking a pose, and I have mixed feelings about the image with Rickert and Erika, but I do love the way Puck and Ivalera look.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on June 25, 2016, 02:00:21 PM
I can't really say I'm happy he moved to digital, since traditional paint work has its charm and is all too rare these days.

It's exactly what was in my mind when I said I didn't liked the new cover. Just like I have a hard time when I see Guts face drawing style in the recent panels... I don't know... sometimes he looks much younger than in the previous volumes; I'll need some time to get used to it, I guess.
Otherwise, it's true that the new posters looks cool, Especially the elves one.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: IncantatioN on June 27, 2016, 05:15:12 AM
Picked up the volume today and just finished reading it. Lovely.

Higher quality image of the new volume cover.

http://imgur.com/qvPKMGQ

I must say, the colors on the physical volume look subdued and darker (or duller) compared to that ^ high quality image.

In terms of differences with the volumes that came before, the image on the inside of the sleeve is lovely, as always and comes in a new border/frame with a Beherit on top. Everything is now bordered - the cover, the inner sleeve small drawing and the new image of Puck on the back of the cover. The empty spaces of the cover have this granite/marble-like effect vs plain white on older volumes.

Difference in the spine (I need to make room on the shelf and couldn't picture all past volumes)
(http://i.imgur.com/EDjD6Sg.jpg)

The back of the volume with the granite/marble-like effect
(http://i.imgur.com/Fiyp8W1.jpg)

The volume also came with a promo-sleeve like the last 3 volumes. I don't know what it says! It looks like there are signed copies of the volume cover (?) and Beherits with dates for a promotional thing (maybe those are YA release dates and there's something Berserk related in those YA releases?)
(http://i.imgur.com/3Snv6KC.jpg)

Here's the sad part from my visit to Kinokuniya - I went through the Japanese volume section to find Volume 1 with the alternate cover and I walked through the entire section, keeping in mind I was looking for a long stack of volumes on the shelf but I couldn't find any Berserk. I'd walked through 8/10 aisles twice now. Afraid the store might close soon, sought help and went to the info-desk to ask if they had Berserk volumes in Japanese. The helper got up and exclaimed "Yeah, we have them but you won't find them easily. They're on the shelf facing the window and we only have a few" ... when we got to the shelf, they only had Volumes 33, 36, 37 - that's it. Volume 38 was being sold up front, with other newly released manga. I was honestly extremely surprised and blurted out a "That's it?". The helper said "Yeah, not many people buying Berserk. There's a long wait for each volume. We don't have other volumes at the store".
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2016, 12:57:28 PM
Thanks for the images. Too bad about that spine... Is there still a tiny, original image when you first open the volume (inside of the dust jacket)? I always looked forward to what Miura would do for those, and I'd be sad to see them go.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: IncantatioN on June 27, 2016, 02:40:53 PM
Thanks for the images. Too bad about that spine... Is there still a tiny, original image when you first open the volume (inside of the dust jacket)? I always looked forward to what Miura would do for those, and I'd be sad to see them go.
Yep it's still there. This time it's an image of a cherry blossom tree inside a new border which we can probably expect to see for all future images (I guess?). I'll PM a picture of it when I get home. Another change I noticed is you no longer open the volume to a page of Jets Comics, instead there's a page at the back of the volume of ... I can't remember the name.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: The Beast of Darkness on June 27, 2016, 02:46:16 PM
The volume also came with a promo-sleeve like the last 3 volumes. I don't know what it says! It looks like there are signed copies of the volume cover (?) and Beherits with dates for a promotional thing (maybe those are YA release dates and there's something Berserk related in those YA releases?)
(http://i.imgur.com/3Snv6KC.jpg)



I guess you have to send the three Beherit coupons to Young Animal and you'll get a chance to win a phone card (Those aren't signed covers, they are phone cards) for the three upcoming (well, the first is already out obviously) Young Animal magazine.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: IncantatioN on June 27, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
^ thanks much for that piece of information!
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 27, 2016, 06:09:32 PM
It's great to see these episodes all together in one volume!

One thing I noticed is that in the original YA release when Griffith puts up his hand to stop Locus after Rickert slaps him he has a gauntlet on while he had been gloveless throughout the scene, this has been changed in the volume.

There is an add for volume 39 at the end that says it will be released in 2017, I imagine we will be staying monthly for some time.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2016, 06:12:32 PM
One thing I noticed is that in the original YA release when Griffith puts up his hand to stop Locus after Rickert slaps him he has a gauntlet on while he had been gloveless throughout the scene, this has been changed in the volume.

Nice. Yeah, ever since Aazealh found that enigmatic extra page in Vol 28, the first thing I do when a new volume arrives is a page-by-page comparison.

Quote
There is an add for volume 39 at the end that says it will be released in 2017, I imagine we will be staying monthly for some time.

Oh wow, that's a great catch! Here's hoping they can keep that promise.

Though 2017 could always mean December 2017, here's a best-case scenario for what that could involve:

Vol 39:
343 December 15
344 June 16
345 July 16
346 August 16
347 September 16
348 October 16
349 November 16
350 December 16
351 January 17
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 27, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
Though 2017 could always mean December 2017, here's a best-case scenario for what that could involve:

Vol 39:
343 December 15
344 June 16
345 July 16
346 August 16
347 September 16
348 October 16
349 November 16
350 December 16
351 January 17

Either way it's good to know!  It says something about seeing Young Animal news for more information, but I haven't found anything on the website.  That's probably just a general statement about getting news from the website.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 27, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
Nice. Yeah, ever since Aazealh found that enigmatic extra page in Vol 28, the first thing I do when a new volume arrives is a page-by-page comparison.

Oh wow, that's a great catch! Here's hoping they can keep that promise.

Though 2017 could always mean December 2017, here's a best-case scenario for what that could involve:

Vol 39:
343 December 15
344 June 16
345 July 16
346 August 16
347 September 16
348 October 16
349 November 16
350 December 16
351 January 17

Do you think it's safe to assume that pretty much all future volumes will contained 9 episodes? I thought we had a chance to go back to 10 per volume with the series becoming monthly but it seems they kept the 9 episodes formula.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on June 27, 2016, 06:58:16 PM
Do you think it's safe to assume that pretty much all future volumes will contained 9 episodes? I thought we had a chance to go back to 10 per volume with the series becoming monthly but it seems they kept the 9 episodes formula.

It could always change. But I think if it were going to change, it'd have happened in Vol 38, because Ep 343 has been out since December. They had every chance to include it in 38.

There was a long, bountiful time of Berserk when there were 11 eps per volume, and we got 2 volumes per year  :isidro: Of course, Miura was also 15-20 years younger then.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on June 27, 2016, 07:16:13 PM
It says something about seeing Young Animal news for more information, but I haven't found anything on the website.  That's probably just a general statement about getting news from the website.

No, I don't think so. The news is more likely to be featured in the magazine. Either way, it's good to see a sign that regular releases are here to stay.

Do you think it's safe to assume that pretty much all future volumes will contained 9 episodes?

Probably.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: RaffoBaffo on June 28, 2016, 01:51:10 PM
Either way it's good to know!  It says something about seeing Young Animal news for more information, but I haven't found anything on the website.  That's probably just a general statement about getting news from the website.
I found this:

(http://i.imgur.com/se75fQ2.jpg)

EDIT:
Ah, that's probably from the Volume, the drawning deceived me XD

EDIT2:
Yeah dog, that's Rupert's image

Welp, it a new level of "Fail" i achieved here XD
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on June 28, 2016, 02:09:21 PM
I found this:

Yeah dog, that's Rupert's image, and what he was talking about on the previous page.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Uriel on June 28, 2016, 11:59:02 PM
Spotted in the wild... it'd be ludicrous to re-buy these, right......?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmFGl76UsAIoToV.jpg:small)

Interestingly, the little Puck picture is on the back of all the new volume slip covers.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on June 29, 2016, 12:48:50 AM
Spotted in the wild... it'd be ludicrous to re-buy these, right......?

It wouldn't be if they offered some extra incentive -- colored pages, new posters, etc. But without? None.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Uriel on June 29, 2016, 01:05:37 AM
It wouldn't be if they offered some extra incentive -- colored pages, new posters, etc. But without? None.

But Wally... UNIFORM SPINES.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Kaladin on June 29, 2016, 02:16:35 AM
I'm pretty picky, consistent spines alone are worth it to me.

by the way, do you guys know where this is from? they're using one of the previous poster illustrations for the cover but it doesn't say the volume number. it must be for some kind of special promotion but for what exactly.

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/35763d3232924587b9408a7661f99243.jpg)
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Walter on June 29, 2016, 02:07:59 PM
Yeah, I saw that a few days ago too. I'm not sure, but it's possibly a limited-edition alternate cover. They did the same for Vol 34's release to celebrate Berserk's 20th anniversary.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: MASTER-AMIR on June 29, 2016, 10:03:02 PM
Berserk Vol 38 sold 170k in 3 days :ubik:.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-29/japanese-comic-ranking-june-20-26/.103776 (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-29/japanese-comic-ranking-june-20-26/.103776)
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Theozilla on June 30, 2016, 02:03:20 AM
Berserk Vol 38 sold 170k in 3 days :ubik:.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-29/japanese-comic-ranking-june-20-26/.103776 (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-29/japanese-comic-ranking-june-20-26/.103776)
Are those good numbers for the series and a manga of that genre/demo in general to get within a week?
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Kaladin on June 30, 2016, 05:41:25 AM
Are those good numbers for the series and a manga of that genre/demo in general to get within a week?

i'd say extremely good, that many sales in less than half a week for a manga thats not shueisha's and kodansha's shonen mangas is impressive. if you go on ANN and look at their previous comic rankings you'll see that volume 38 sold more than a good amount of popular series in the first week, i think the sales will stay strong too, they'll definitely show up in the next comic ranking, the anime is gonna boost it for sure.

volume 37 sold less in its first week
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-03/japanese-comic-ranking-march-24-30

277K a few weeks later
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-17/japanese-comic-ranking-april-7-13

should be easy to surpass with a new seasonal anime coming out + the sales of all the reprints = $$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: MASTER-AMIR on June 30, 2016, 12:22:39 PM
Are those good numbers for the series and a manga of that genre/demo in general to get within a week?
Yes absolutely
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on June 30, 2016, 05:35:03 PM
Are those good numbers for the series and a manga of that genre/demo in general to get within a week?

It's good for a seinen, but I don't think it's great or anything as far as Berserk is concerned. I'm not sure it's reaching the numbers from 10 years ago, when a Berserk volume was consistently #1 on the week of its release. The sales would have to be sustained, and it's usually not the case (they drop).
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: ApostleBob on July 08, 2016, 01:35:13 PM
An interesting new ad for the new volume:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oVZsslXScc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oVZsslXScc)
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: residentgrigo on July 08, 2016, 01:40:05 PM
Thx for the ad ApostleBob. Love it. Motion comics have a lot of untapped potential to me. (A version of this would be an anime OP i 100% could get behind.)
That YA Youtube channel though... :schierke: .
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Aazealh on July 08, 2016, 03:02:59 PM
An interesting new ad for the new volume:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oVZsslXScc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oVZsslXScc)

Cool use of a (likely free) morphing app, although the result is quite pixelated. Also, calling it "the born of the dark knight"... I wish Japanese people would either try harder or stop trying to speak English altogether.
Title: Re: Volume 38 Release
Post by: Eluvei on July 09, 2016, 02:47:39 PM
Cool use of a (likely free) morphing app

Haha yeah, but let's give the guy some credit:

Quote
All the pictures taken from real comic books frame by frame. After extracted the leading character from more than 6000 pages, I carefully collected and re-ordered their face to move sequencially.

http://baku89.com/work/berserk

 :griffnotevil: