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Title: Episode 349
Post by: Sareth on April 24, 2017, 02:42:56 PM
Pre-order is up for the next issue

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-2086878
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 24, 2017, 03:03:17 PM
Pre-order is up for the next issue

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-2086878

Thanks for the heads-up!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: jackson_hurley on April 24, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
Oh yeah! I've just ordered mine, which should be here in a million years (since I'm very far from Japan hehe). But I thought having an issue with one of the most important subject in it was worth it!  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Mangetsu on April 25, 2017, 05:38:30 PM
Here are some pages from the new episode guys

http://imgur.com/a/bBfbR

My heart  :farnese: :farnese:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Sareth on April 25, 2017, 05:41:24 PM
I did a quick skim and stopped myself. Just a little longer, gotta be strong  :puck:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Kaladin on April 25, 2017, 05:59:21 PM
The bonfire of dreams  :judo:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Demon Knight on April 25, 2017, 06:14:35 PM
ohh my god. That bonefire of dreams moment... :sad:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 25, 2017, 06:22:56 PM
Amazingly exciting stuff. The episode title is "The Corridor of Dreams".

We can see a piece of the broken doll on one of the pages, as Schierke and Farnese bear witness to Casca's memories of the Bonfire of Dreams. Exactly as I expected! They will restore her by collecting these missing pieces. And they do more than bear witness, they even feel what Casca felt at the time. Also of note is that the memory of young Guts at the Bonfire of Dreams is what turns into that part of the broken doll.

Schierke also seems to realize that her gear has been transformed because she's a dream-version of herself. So she's got some miniature versions of her former feats of magic in her pouch that she can just throw on the floor and voilà, MEGA-GOLEM and THE WHEEL OF FLAMES appear. It looks like these will be much needed to fight against an onslaught of flying enemies, too. A part of Casca trying to prevent them from —literally— piecing the puzzle together?

What we see of Guts in the real world is the missing page from the sketches that were included in the guidebook. Guts lives up to his past self here, preferring to stay alone, far away from the party (pretty damn far, too). I can't help but be reminded of his first party with the Band of the Falcon, when Judo and Pippin went to take him down by force so he could join the rest of them. Fittingly, it's Roderick and Serpico who come to him here, each bearing their own burden and reflecting on it (Serpico with how Farnese has changed, for example). Of course, it's also not a coincidence that this parallels his being alone during the Bonfire of Dreams scene either.

Lastly, love the theatrics from drunken Isidro and how the boys seem fascinated by his tales of adventure. Same goes for smug-drunk Isma showing off her tail. And Azan truly does seem to have found kindred spirits in the dwarves too. Can't wait to see the rest of the episode!!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Sancho on April 25, 2017, 06:33:31 PM
Wow, the Bonfire of Dreams! That is nostalgic (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/Smileys/Berserk/guts-sad.gif)

I'm wondering what Farnese is thinking by herself in that middle panel in the page with young Guts.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 25, 2017, 06:43:39 PM
I'm wondering what Farnese is thinking by herself in that middle panel in the page with young Guts.

"...The Guts that I don't know"
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Tabris on April 25, 2017, 06:49:49 PM
Absolutely, so absurdly excited. I cannot wait.

I get stupid excited about every episode but these are the moments that really define my Berserk fandom.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Sancho on April 25, 2017, 06:55:21 PM
"...The Guts that I don't know"

Thanks! It's indeed interesting to see Farnese and Schierke finally discover how Guts was in the past. They no doubt are wondering right now what could have happened to change both him and Casca so much.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Griffith on April 25, 2017, 07:14:10 PM
Damn, that's a helluva "preview!" This is like cutting out a piece of cake and taking everything but the slice. Why not just include the remaining few pages? :guts:

Anyway, very exciting, especially that Guts' past is finally being revealed to his closest friends... via Casca (that's what you get for being so closed off, big guy =). And while it is a familiar touchstone, I think this is more what people expected, in a positive way. It would be difficult to deconstruct Casca's state of mind, both for the characters and us, via abstractions alone. Actually, the abstractions may be the problem, since it's things like this vivid and powerful memory that are more coherent and meaningful to the conscious mind.

"...The Guts that I don't know"

And never will: Deal with it. :badbone: :farnese:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 25, 2017, 07:26:50 PM
Anyway, very exciting, especially that Guts' past is finally being revealed to his closest friends... via Casca (that's what you get for being so closed off, big guy =).

I think that's fitting actually. In fact I wonder if I didn't speculate about it before lol. What I'm curious is whether he'll simultaneously open up to the guys back in the real world. They seem to be in a feeling-sharing mood back there. It'd be interesting to have him confide some things to Roderick & Serpico while Farnese and Schierke get to relive some of his and Casca's past (from her perspective).

And never will: Deal with it. :badbone: :farnese:

Just wait until the waterfall memory. :casca:
Although that calls to mind a much scarier and ghastly thought: how they will get through the Eclipse. :magni:

Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Griffith on April 25, 2017, 07:33:26 PM
I think that's fitting actually. In fact I wonder if I didn't speculate about it before lol. What I'm curious is whether he'll simultaneously open up to the guys back in the real world. They seem to be in a feeling-sharing mood back there. It'd be interesting to have him confide some things to Roderick & Serpico while Farnese and Schierke get to relive some of his and Casca's past (from her perspective).

Damn it, the thought occurred to me as well but I forgot to write it! I swear. =)

Just wait until the waterfall memory. :casca:
Although that calls to mind a much scarier and ghastly thought: how they will get through the Eclipse. :magni:


We sort of knew all roads lead there, but if they're sharing Casca's feelings then YIKES! :magni:-indeed
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 25, 2017, 07:41:04 PM
We sort of knew all roads lead there, but if they're sharing Casca's feelings then YIKES! :magni:-indeed

Yeeeeeeeep. With the way the dog, coffin, doll and all were represented, I figured all her memories might take on surreal forms, but it wasn't the case here... So will the really traumatic events also be depicted as they happened? Will some parts be as they happened while others are figurative? Finding out is sure to be a dreadful time.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Rhombaad on April 25, 2017, 08:12:56 PM
Yeeeeeeeep. With the way the dog, coffin, doll and all were represented, I figured all her memories might take on surreal forms, but it wasn't the case here... So will the really traumatic events also be depicted as they happened? Will some parts be as they happened while others are figurative? Finding out is sure to be a dreadful time.

I wonder if Danan will need to intervene if it becomes too traumatic.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: jackson_hurley on April 25, 2017, 08:18:04 PM
I wonder if Danan will need to intervene if it becomes too traumatic.

That's a very good question. And it might be a bit too soon to say this but I'm starting to wonder if they'll only have broken doll pieces to find or if as Aaz suggested, if the other piece are gonna more symbolic?

Any so far 'm still excited and can't wait to read the whole thing with it's translation.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 25, 2017, 08:21:14 PM
I wonder if Danan will need to intervene if it becomes too traumatic.

Good question. Could be, although it's hard to know what her powers are over that place. Can she alter the dream itself or shield them from enduring the full agony that Casca suffered? Maybe, more simply, they will only feel a tinge of it. Either way it's going to be tough to get through... for them and for us readers.

By the way, in case anyone's interested, the line Guts says in the dream when he turns around is a tiny one from the Bonfire of Dreams scene where he makes fun of Casca specifically for coming up with that name (we hear her say it on the previous page). Dark Horse's translation for it is: "You smooth talker, you sound like some princess." I thought that was an interesting choice.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Griffith on April 25, 2017, 08:55:15 PM
By the way, in case anyone's interested, the line Guts says in the dream when he turns around is a tiny one from the Bonfire of Dreams scene where he makes fun of Casca specifically for coming up with that name (we hear her say it on the previous page). Dark Horse's translation for it is: "You smooth talker, you sound like some princess." I thought that was an interesting choice.

I already assumed the scene was important because it's when she started to view Guts differently and the changing dynamics between them solidified, but it also suggests she was seeing herself differently as well and Guts, perhaps inadvertently, tapped into that.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: DANGERDOOOOM on April 25, 2017, 09:05:03 PM
Oh, Miura. How are you so amazing. I've never wanted more from something or someone. Can't wait to read this episode :ubik:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Death May Die on April 25, 2017, 09:41:00 PM
From what you guys are discussing here, do you think it would ever come to them deliberately choosing to leave a memory/piece out because it's perhaps too powerful or upon regaining such would cause Casca to again become too unstable and break?

-Great preview indeed! Very excited!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Sareth on April 26, 2017, 01:18:26 AM
Of course people I follow on Tumblr are posting the spoilers  :schierke:

But it was nice seeing that Guts, Serpico, and Roderick are going to have a bro moment together. A broment.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Draculoid on April 26, 2017, 03:21:23 AM
Yay it's out!!  Will drive over to my nearest kombini (about 20 minutes away) and grab right after work!!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 04:35:45 AM
From what you guys are discussing here, do you think it would ever come to them deliberately choosing to leave a memory/piece out because it's perhaps too powerful or upon regaining such would cause Casca to again become too unstable and break?

No, I don't think so.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 06:48:26 AM
The episode is exceptionally short, only 18 pages!

Like I expected, Guts, Serpico and Roderick all share their perspective on their journey. That shot from the fight against the Snake Apostle brought strangely nostalgic feelings. That section ends with Guts remembering the Skull Knight's warning about how "what he(Guts) wants may not be what she(Casca) wants". Meanwhile, Farnese and Schierke really seem to be fighting against the environment to get that first broken fragment of the doll. Strong headwinds, then a massive attack by winged creatures...

Another thing of note is that the dog is the one who puts the broken piece back (fixing the eye socket). Also worth mentioning is that the tiny sprite seems afraid of the dog. A comedic moment but not only, I think. By the way, I was a bit surprised at how small that fragment is. They've got a lot of work ahead of them if they want to gather them all.

Please note this is the last time I use spoilers to comment, after that I consider we're in the clear.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Cyrus Jong on April 26, 2017, 07:38:13 AM
Hm, this is almost like the manga equivalent of a clip show. We're seeing a lot of callbacks in this episode, going all the way back to the very beginning with the cobra Apostle. Very cool.

Watching Guts share a moment with Roderick and Serpico is refreshing. Guy doesn't get to talk with men close to his age much, and he really looked like he needed a hug at the beginning. I'm also glad Serpico got a chance to muse on things as well; he's been out of focus for a long time.

Seeing the dog be the one to place the piece on the Casca doll was quite a surprise. I was honestly expecting Schierke or Farnese to do the deed. Makes me wonder if he's been slowly and bit by bit "reassembling" Casca all this time?

From what you guys are discussing here, do you think it would ever come to them deliberately choosing to leave a memory/piece out because it's perhaps too powerful or upon regaining such would cause Casca to again become too unstable and break?

I sure hope not. And to be honest, I don't think it's really in character for either of them. Schierke's too wise to believe that's a good idea, and Farnese knows from experience that running from your fears isn't the answer. Though seeing how things are, it doesn't look like it's going to be up to them anyway.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 07:57:33 AM
Seeing the dog be the one to place the piece on the Casca doll was quite a surprise. I was honestly expecting Schierke or Farnese to do the deed. Makes me wonder if he's been slowly and bit by bit "reassembling" Casca all this time?

I don't think he can do much by himself other than keeping whatever's left of her together (against the attacks). It's Schierke and Farnese (guided by Danan) who are the agents of change here. However I think within that world that dog may well be the embodiment of Casca's will to fight, the small part of her that does want to regain herself. It would be fitting for it to take on the guise of a Guts-like entity. Meanwhile, the rest of the world was constructed and is operated by the part of her that does not want to return.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Tama on April 26, 2017, 10:45:32 AM
Great episode, I love all the shots of younger Guts here, he looks great!  :guts: Him being solitary on the outskirts of town brings back memories of what we are shown, like the bonfire of dreams. Once again, I find the interpretations of the classic fairy tale creatures Miura has drawn to be very charming, my favorite being Azan dancing with the dwarves. :)
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 11:47:32 AM
Here's a rough summary courtesy of puella:

The old magicians comment "Well well, it ended up like this, as expected. When we have a feast, elves can never stay still." Meanwhile Isidro tells tales of his adventures, getting out from fights with tons of evil spirits, and BAM he destroys his enemies with his salamander dagger. Meanwhile drunk Isma shows her merrow-ness, and a couple of mischievous witches in the back tell her "hey, why don't you take a bath here, we put a lot of herbs in there to wash up your fatigue" and so on. Given that they're talking about a cauldron, it seems they really aim to cook her. The dwarves on the other hand seem happy with Azan, commenting on how they get along well. The brownies on the other hand have only one word to say: work! Dismayed, Magnifico questions why he should serve.. As for Puck, he simply utters that it's unfaaaair.

Guts is sitting alone, far away from the party. Roderick and Serpico arrive, Roderick asking "Can I seat next to you, commander? Let's have a good time between men, watching the cherry blossoms at night." He goes on: "I understand how you feel, but you have no choice but leaving her to them, since we've come this far." Serpico adds "I know you're not good at this kind of thing." Guts replies: "It's true that I wasn't, but I have changed a lot. I've realized many things during this journey. When I was all alone, I didn't care about anything, I fought without aim. I didn't care how badly I was beaten up. But since we were two, I felt my sword was heavier, and that I shouldn't die... I changed my reason/way to fight. I couldn't handle it by myself. So I just gave up all of my ways and, with other people's help, I managed to move forward." He goes on: "So I thank you". Serpico is surprised: "Ohhh, how could I ever expect to hear such polite words from you. Maybe you're starting to be drunk...". Guts replies with a simple "Maybe...".

Serpico takes his turn: "Well... though I talk like that, I myself also changed in many ways through this journey. When she and I were in the HICK, we left everything up to god. In a way, those were peaceful days. All we had to do was meekly obey the Holy See. I can't say that we were happy, but it was a proper place for Lady Farnese at the time. However, when we met you everything was swept away. Farnese lost her faith and became fascinated by you, who had destroyed it. While I, who had served her since childhood, couldn't even approach her... you did everything so easily that I had never thought to do. You blew some life into her. To be honest, I felt a desire to kill you several times, and felt surprised I had such violent feelings within me. But in another way, I was happy and proud of her, who started to work and stand on her two own feet, though it was unstable. And I realized Lady Casca has made Farnese strong. I realized people don't grow up until they get to have someone to protect. Now Farnese is no better than a big sister who takes care of her little sister. Let's trust their connection and wait. I've also changed much, to open my heart like that to my traveling companions. Maybe I'm also drunken."

Roderick is next to speak, telling Serpico: "Ah, you're dangerous, you've got that kind of secret intent to kill!" To Guts he says: "But isn't it good? A big guy like you has lived that kind of adventure, risking your life for a woman to the far end of the sea...". He adds: "I want to die my final days by drowning in the sea, or in liquor or women." Serpico comments matter-of-factly that Roderick's actually drunk. But Guts' thoughts are elsewhere. He thinks back to what the Skull Knight told him, so long ago on that beach: "Above all, what you wish for may not be what she wishes for."

The scene cuts to the dreamscape. Farnese comments "We've walked quite a long ways, where are the petals going towards? They're flying against the wind..." Schierke answers that "Time and distance are vague here. I think we're going to see some sign." They notice a bonfire. Farnese says "Ahh it's warm, let's take a rest for a bit before we get going again." But Schierke isn't fooled, she wonders what's going on. When they see the scene of Guts form, Schierke correctly deduces that it's a fragment of Casca's memory. Farnese puts two and two together: "Then this back, this person is..." They're interrupted by a voice, which in the real world was Casca's voice: "A bonfire... of dreams...". Guts turns back and replies: "Ahh, what a good line. You sound like some kind of princess."

Schierke comments that this is Guts before he met them. Farnese thinks to herself: "The Guts who I don't know." She then comments, surprised: "This feeling transferred to me...". Schierke finishes her thought: "That's what Casca felt at that time". Farnese(?) thinks to herself: "Pitiful and yet warm. A wonderful feeling." The scene vanishes (we hear some more of Casca's talk to Guts from that time) and turns into a broken piece of the doll. Farnese asks what's going on, Schierke gets it. She tells Farnese to open the coffin. Farnese says hi to the little sprite "we meet again", but it cowers before the dog. When he drops the piece onto the doll, it restores it a bit. Farnese comments on it: "The doll was restored...?". Schierke replies "I guess this is the rule of this world. By collecting the fragments of Casca's memory, scattered in this wilderness, we can restore this doll."

The dog barks, and they notice they've got company. Farnese: "They come again, the shadow-like things." Schierke: "This time they're in larger numbers. They probably want to hinder us. Let's fight them." She pulls something out of her bag. Farnese asks what it is. Schierke, somewhat embarrassed, replies "...It seems I brought them from my dream". She goes on: "But this is surely an unexpected chance!" As she activates them, she says: "Hey you! Give us a hand!". And a giant golem and wheel of flames appear. Farnese is amazed, and Schierke tells her it's possible because they're in a dream.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: jackson_hurley on April 26, 2017, 11:48:48 AM
That shot from the fight against the Snake Apostle brought strangely nostalgic feelings.

That it did, a lot. And to be honest I am glad to we got to see it. Most of the flashback we get is mostly of the golden age. So I was happy to see one from the old black swordsman.

Great episode as always. Very touching.

And to my excitement my issue of Young animal is getting ship today. Let the waiting start. Anybody knows how long it can take from Japan to Canada just out of curiosity?

Edit: Thank you for the summary (I was writing my post at the same time so didn't get the chance to say it.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: MiyamotoPuck on April 26, 2017, 12:09:22 PM
Here's a rough summary courtesy of puella:

Thanks ! Very interesting episode.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Salem on April 26, 2017, 12:50:26 PM
Thanks for putting this outline up, Aazealh.  Guts speaking about his journey and actually voicing how he feels now vs. then was a big moment for me in this episode.  Finally resonating what we've watched come together with his character.  Both humbling and powerful. 
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Joe Chip on April 26, 2017, 01:54:07 PM
Thank you Aaz and Puella you two are awesome as always =)
Here's a rough summary courtesy of puella:

They're interrupted by a voice, which in the real world was Casca's voice: "A bonfire... of dreams...". Guts turns back and replies: "Ahh, what a good line. You sound like some kind of princess."
What a beautiful scene, thinking of the name "bonfire of dreams". Do you think that it's possible mr. Miura chose the name on purpose, seeing as they are in a dream right now?
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 02:00:59 PM
What a beautiful scene, thinking of the name "bonfire of dreams". Do you think that it's possible mr. Miura chose the name on purpose, seeing as they are in a dream right now?

The "bonfire of dreams" scene is an iconic part of the Golden Age arc. The name is from that era (it's the title of episode 22), meaning it was created over 20 years ago. Bearing that in mind, I don't think your question makes sense. Maybe you instead meant to ask whether Miura chose to show that specific scene because they're in a dream now? If so, well... I don't think so, no. It's just a powerful and important memory for Casca.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: JMP on April 26, 2017, 02:03:48 PM
Thanks so much for the summary, puella!  :ubik: And thanks for posting it Aazealh! I was really eager to know what was being said. Love the conversation between Guts, Serpico, and Roderick. The memory of the bonfire of dreams is very moving also.  :judo: :casca: A heartwarming episode!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Joe Chip on April 26, 2017, 02:11:21 PM
The "bonfire of dreams" scene is an iconic part of the Golden Age arc. The name is from that era (it's the title of episode 22), meaning it was created over 20 years ago. Bearing that in mind, I don't think your question makes sense.
I was simply thinking, since it fits so good together. Could it be that he had something like this in mind when giving this title. I know why its specifically called a "bonfire of dreams" and i remember the conversation Guts and Casca had, i was simply asking that perhaps he picked the name and planned this scene thinking ahead. We know he has done things like this in the past.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 02:51:38 PM
I was simply thinking, since it fits so good together. Could it be that he had something like this in mind when giving this title. I know why its specifically called a "bonfire of dreams" and i remember the conversation Guts and Casca had, i was simply asking that perhaps he picked the name and planned this scene thinking ahead. We know he has done things like this in the past.

You mean that he had already planned that the scene in episode 349 would happen when he wrote the Bonfire of Dreams scene in 1993? I...don't think so man.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: MrFlibble on April 26, 2017, 02:53:47 PM
Interesting that Miura reminds us again of Skull Knights warning. I'd guess that the more painful the memory, the more intensely Cascas mind fights against Schierke and Farnese in the form of powerful winds and winged monsters, and the peak holds the final and most painful memory of all.  :femto:

I'm also impressed at Miuras ability to plant details that become important later, I wouldn't have guessed that the talismans used in Schierke's toon like dream would be used in Cascas dream.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: jackson_hurley on April 26, 2017, 02:55:06 PM
Damn, Aaz beat me to it but like he said, there's planning ahead and planning ahead. I would not think so either.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Griffith on April 26, 2017, 03:27:56 PM
That extra long-term planning and Guts' dialogue also explains why Miura showed the Snake Apostle and why Guts behaved as he did then, like he didn't care about Casca or anything; as a matter of fact, he acted as though Casca didn't even exist then! :carcus: :???: :troll:


Anyway, very cool though short episode (we really did see most of it already). I'm especially happy Guts was able to bond with the boys and vice versa, even though Roderick doesn't really have the benefit of history to bring much to the table but some levity and insight (watch out drowning yourself in women around your betrothed's dangerous half-brother there, fella =).

As Aaz pointed out, that wasn't a big chunk of doll restored for such an important, though small, memory. I wonder if we're going to be here for individual memories, analysis, and dream battles (DREEEEEEAM WAAAARRRIORS!)or if we'll get a montage with only the most important highlights getting the in-depth treatment and the Eclipse being the final hurdle (as well as other, more docile, Griffith sightings). I also wonder if we'll jump around and see some childhood memories or events from her private time (e.g. the stress/exhaustion of leading the Falcons), maybe even something we've never seen before!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 03:43:14 PM
As Aaz pointed out, that wasn't a big chunk of doll restored for such an important, though small, memory. I wonder if we're going to be here for individual memories, analysis, and dream battles (DREEEEEEAM WAAAARRRIORS!)or if we'll get a montage with only the most important highlights getting the in-depth treatment and the Eclipse being the final hurdle (as well as other, more docile, Griffith sightings).

I was thinking about this earlier and I don't see how we could get to see all of them. I think most of them will be fast-forwarded through in Miura's usual considerate fashion, so that it doesn't take ages and we can concentrate on the girls' reactions to the bigger parts. I figure the things who don't get as much air time will be those we can easily situate in the story anyway.

I also wonder if we'll jump around and see some childhood memories or events from her private time (e.g. the stress/exhaustion of leading the Falcons), maybe even something we've never seen before!

I hope so!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Theozilla on April 26, 2017, 03:56:13 PM
Thanks again for posting the summary Aazealh and puella! Don't have much more to say than seconding people's excitement for what potential memories will be given focus and which will be relegated to montage. I also wonder if there will be some additional requirement/element after all the Casca doll pieces are collected and put together. Like maybe the sprite fragment will need some sort of spark in order to restore/give life to the eventually completed doll?
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: ApostleBob on April 26, 2017, 03:57:18 PM
Great episode. Some very concrete growth for Guts and Serpico nailed down. I also love that the memories are felt by Scheike and Farnese. They will leave this dream feeling like they know the old Casca to some extent.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Killakcin on April 26, 2017, 04:51:33 PM
Excellent episode! Guts and Serpico's retrospective moment feels well timed and well earned. I love all the celebration scenes. It kind of feels like we're all celebrating Casca's imminent return. But man, that was a SMALL piece. They've got their work cut out for them.

I wonder how they're going to react to Casca's memory of Griffith? Since they feel what Casca does in her memories, they're sure to feel the full weight of Griffith's betrayal at the eclipse. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Joe Chip on April 26, 2017, 04:56:59 PM
I also wonder if we'll jump around and see some childhood memories or events from her private time (e.g. the stress/exhaustion of leading the Falcons), maybe even something we've never seen before!
After reading this, i now hope for a scene of the falcons that  takes place before Guts joined them !
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Vixen Comics on April 26, 2017, 04:58:12 PM
I am glad that Guts had his little heart to heart with the men in his group. It was sobering to see Guts think about Skull Knights warning about Casca. I was sort of like "yeah...yeah, there is that to deal with possibly." Which makes me wonder about the demonic looking figures in Casca's dream. Does Casca have control over them? Dannan said that Casca makes the rules in her own dream. I assumed they were just symbolic/literal manifestations of the attack she and the falcons endured during the eclipse and the multiple attacks Guts and her expereinced before Guts allowed the group to join him. But could the winded creatures attacking the group also represent Caca's feelings of not wanting to be restored? I think Aaz speculated that the Guts dog might also represent that part of Casca that wants to still fight for her former self. That would indicate some serious mixed feelings on Casca's part about what is going inside her head. I just find it interesting that Miura had Guts think of Skull Knights warning to remind us the reader of it, it kind of puts what we have seen so far into a new percpective. Another thing I was wondering, is there any chance do you think that Farnese and Schierke could be shown Casca's former feelings for Griffith?

Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 26, 2017, 06:10:22 PM
Which makes me wonder about the demonic looking figures in Casca's dream. Does Casca have control over them?

They are a part of the dream her mind has created, so yes she does. But this isn't a conscious process or anything like that. It also doesn't deprive them of their symbolic meaning.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they conglomerated to form a giant Femto-like monster at the top of that pyramid.

But could the winded creatures attacking the group also represent Caca's feelings of not wanting to be restored? I think Aaz speculated that the Guts dog might also represent that part of Casca that wants to still fight for her former self. That would indicate some serious mixed feelings on Casca's part about what is going inside her head.

Like you say, I have already posted about that exact thing. It's the third post from the top of the page. (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=15306.msg247381#msg247381)

I think within that world that dog may well be the embodiment of Casca's will to fight, the small part of her that does want to regain herself. It would be fitting for it to take on the guise of a Guts-like entity. Meanwhile, the rest of the world was constructed and is operated by the part of her that does not want to return.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Grail on April 26, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
Thank you so much Puella and Aaz, as always. Heartwarming and bittersweet feelings abound in this episode. It's very sweet to see Guts's and Casca's companions rally around them, it's everything I hoped for! The face of the little guy ogling Isma's fishy underpants was an additional unexpected treat that I'll treasure for all time. :ganishka:

I am really looking forward to seeing Farnese's reactions to upcoming memories. I think it'll really cement her role as Casca's supporter following her recovery (in case anyone wasn't sure about it already). That said, I can't help but feel like it'll get a bit awkward once they get to some of the more romantic memories. :farnese: Kind of hard to avoid, since these are probably some of Casca's most important memories, just like they have been for Guts. I'm excited about Farnese gaining insight into this in particular, because I imagine the dynamic that'll form between the two women will be really interesting to witness.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: IncantatioN on April 26, 2017, 07:55:14 PM
That exchange between Guts and Serpico was ... immense. I've gone back to reading it again and again and it's hard not to get emotional by it. Something tells me Roderick isn't going to get to die the way he wants to if or when it happens.

As always, thank you very much Puella and Aaz! I can't wait to land the entire episode in the mail and read the translation when it comes out in due time. Also waiting on the last episode to arrive in the mail.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Uriel on April 27, 2017, 02:43:16 AM
My store should have this today -- cannot wait to read this one!  :guts:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Griffith on April 27, 2017, 03:16:10 AM
Hate to break the mood, but that's also at least the 3rd time Miura's employed the, "what you want may not be what she wants" line. So, what does Guts want? Because Casca's going to want the opposite of that. :ganishka: :sad:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: zrexe on April 27, 2017, 04:14:21 AM
Hate to break the mood, but that's also at least the 3rd time Miura's employed the, "what you want may not be what she wants" line. So, what does Guts want? Because Casca's going to want the opposite of that. :ganishka: :sad:

Maybe she wants to stop all this fighting and live in the big-ass castle Griffith created
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Griffith on April 27, 2017, 06:19:29 AM
Ho ho ho, except the other residents would all want to eat her, Griffith raped her and killed her friends, corrupted and stole her child, and even before that she was last into him about 30 volumes ago. I think Rickert answered that question for all the old Falcons and he only learned about it secondhand. :rickert:

No, my first guess would be not wanting to resume a close relationship with Guts, or not feeling close to or trusting him at first, but we'll see the toll all this has taken on them (and how canon the DC game really is =). Once that's settled, who knows, she might be the one that wants to go to war.

Random thought, but not enough attention is paid to Femto essentially being the third parent to that child. Griffith's like his own father. :griffnotevil: <(Ayyyy'm my ohhn granpaaaa!)
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 27, 2017, 08:36:11 AM
Hate to break the mood, but that's also at least the 3rd time Miura's employed the, "what you want may not be what she wants" line.

What I find interesting is that each time we see it, it's Guts pondering those words. I think the gravity with which he took that warning (and the fact he recognized its wisdom) shows how mature and thoughtful he's become. And it further solidifies (or serves as a strong reminder of) the utmost importance of Casca to him, someone for whom he "abandoned all of his ways". That heightens the impact of her return and will put a lot of relative "power" in her lap when she does.

Random thought, but not enough attention is paid to Femto essentially being the third parent to that child. Griffith's like his own father. :griffnotevil:

Well that's because it's not true. I mean, Femto's credit is turning the boy into a monster while he was in the womb (already conceived by Guts & Casca)... that's not what a parent does. It's like saying Daiba was the Daka's "father" because he was the mad scientist responsible for their creation. If you mean it as a figure of speech, sure, but I think it just sows confusion.

I also think this is all moot now since Femto invaded and overtook the boy's body. From Guts & Casca's perspective he first defiled their unborn son and then somehow upped the ante by completely taking over his body. You can make the argument that it gives the kid some superpowers when he gets out once in a blue moon (reference intended), but that doesn't really make up for it. I completely agree that at this point Femto is an undeniable contributor to what the boy is/has become, but I find the label of "parent" to be misleading.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Griffith on April 27, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
What I find interesting is that each time we see it, it's Guts pondering those words. I think the gravity with which he took that warning (and the fact he recognized its wisdom) shows how mature and thoughtful he's become. And it further solidifies (or serves as a strong reminder of) the utmost importance of Casca to him, someone for whom he "abandoned all of his ways". That heightens the impact of her return and will put a lot of relative "power" in her lap when she does.

Definitely, and it shows how much he truly cares, and I also get a sense of insecurity and defensiveness from it, like a spouse fearing their partner is drifting away, so I hope he doesn't become the problem when she returns by pressing, as Guts has been known to do from time to time. We'll see just how mature he's become.

Well that's because it's not true. I mean, Femto's credit is turning the boy into a monster while he was in the womb (already conceived by Guts & Casca)... that's not what a parent does. It's like saying Daiba was the Daka's "father" because he was the mad scientist responsible for their creation. If you mean it as a figure of speech, sure, but I think it just sows confusion.

I also think this is all moot now since Femto invaded and overtook the boy's body. From Guts & Casca's perspective he first defiled their unborn son and then somehow upped the ante by completely taking over his body. You can make the argument that it gives the kid some superpowers when he gets out once in a blue moon (reference intended), but that doesn't really make up for it. I completely agree that at this point Femto is an undeniable contributor to what the boy is/has become, but I find the label of "parent" to be misleading.

Yeah, it was misleading figure of speech that doesn't jibe with the story as presented. It is fascinating how it all dovetailed into his incarnation.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on April 27, 2017, 04:44:54 PM
Definitely, and it shows how much he truly cares, and I also get a sense of insecurity and defensiveness from it, like a spouse fearing their partner is drifting away, so I hope he doesn't become the problem when she returns by pressing, as Guts has been known to do from time to time. We'll see just how mature he's become.

Oh yeah, he's definitely not feeling confident at all here. I've also thought about the fact he may be too eager/forceful, but I think his past experiences with such attitude would be beneficial. In fact I think he might even be kind of reserved because of it (and then he'll cry).
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: SkullGirl on April 28, 2017, 03:59:22 PM
Wow, this chapter made me somehow happy. I really liked the moment when Roderick and Serpico joined Guts and supported him. It is good to see that Guts is at least now not alone and has friends he can rely on and is ready to protect them at any costs. Also Serpico's thoughts regarding Farnese and Casca... maybe Farnese will be able to become stronger in the next time for Casca's sake? That Bonfire of Dreams moment made my expectations go higher. So there is hope for Casca after all. Seems like Schierke and Farnese have to collect all those memories for the doll to be repaired. But on the other hand I doubt everything will go well. Moreover I wonder if they are even capable to fight in her mind and how it will affect her body. Will there be memories of Griffith too? It's really a shame that we have monthly releases.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on April 28, 2017, 04:15:12 PM
It's really a shame that we have monthly releases.

It's pretty strange to see someone say it's a shame that we have monthly releases.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on May 01, 2017, 01:08:16 PM
Wow, this chapter made me somehow happy.

Berserk's individual issues are called "episodes", not "chapters". Episodes are then grouped into chapters and those chapters form narrative arcs. For example, the Millennium Falcon arc had two chapters: The Holy Evil War Chronicle and Falconia. Each of these contained dozens of episodes.

Also Serpico's thoughts regarding Farnese and Casca... maybe Farnese will be able to become stronger in the next time for Casca's sake?

Serpico's point is that Farnese has already become stronger for Casca's sake.

It's pretty strange to see someone say it's a shame that we have monthly releases.

Indeed...
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: N7Paladin on May 01, 2017, 08:31:25 PM
I enjoyed this episode quite a bit. The part with Roderick, Serpico and Guts having a few drinks while opening up to each other was very nice, along with the dog attaching another fragment to the doll. Can't wait for 350.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Walter on May 02, 2017, 03:49:56 PM
On the podcast I commented about the difference in fidelity between how we were initially presented with Casca's dream world (dog Guts, bat-like specters), and how perfectly rendered the Bonfire memory was. But there's actually a logic to that difference beyond merely presentation. The dog and the specters are manifestations of the fragmented (insane) Casca, so they aren't rooted in reality as much as the bonfire memory, which was a fragment of the sane Casca.

It made me wonder about the gloomy, barren state of the dreamworld itself, and whether it's meant to represent something the insane Casca is perceiving, or something the remnant of Casca is projecting.

Or, it's just a dream Walter, lay off.  :void:
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on May 02, 2017, 10:03:20 PM
On the podcast I commented about the difference in fidelity between how we were initially presented with Casca's dream world (dog Guts, bat-like specters), and how perfectly rendered the Bonfire memory was. But there's actually a logic to that difference beyond merely presentation. The dog and the specters are manifestations of the fragmented (insane) Casca, so they aren't rooted in reality as much as the bonfire memory, which was a fragment of the sane Casca.

Yes, the fragments of her broken self are intact parts of her sane mind. Morsels that, put together, shaped her personality. They're not even really part of the dream itself, they're memories scattered/hidden across the dream.

It made me wonder about the gloomy, barren state of the dreamworld itself, and whether it's meant to represent something the insane Casca is perceiving, or something the remnant of Casca is projecting.

I think it's definitely a projection and not a distorted perception. We saw Casca's surface perception in episode 347. The desolate landscape that represents her inner self is something she's created herself. It's based on her interpretation of her life after the Eclipse (during a very specific time period), but like I said earlier in the thread I believe it also informs us about her state of mind, and about how two sides of her are opposing each other. The broken doll in the coffin is her mind, her ego. The sprite is its current functioning form, what's left of it (very little). It's what's at the helm of her body, what faces the world. The dog, which is styled after Guts, embodies her will to survive, to fight the trauma, to get better (and what better figure in her life to style it after). The environmental hazards (terrain, wind, monsters), on the other hand, represent the part of her that doesn't want the pieces to be put back together. The part that, maybe, couldn't bear to deal with the rape at that time (and still can't). That's what Schierker and Farnese are after.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: RaffoBaffo on May 05, 2017, 02:39:03 PM
The Issue of YA Digital is out.
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: Aazealh on May 06, 2017, 01:54:26 PM
The Issue of YA Digital is out.

Thanks for the reminder, Raffo.

And while I'm at it, Miura's comment this week:

Quote from: Miura
"Lord Marksman and Vanadis" and "The Ambition of Oda Nobuna". I've enjoyed reading them bit by bit during my meals. Now I've reached the final volume of the light novels. Such an empty feeling. (´д`)
Title: Re: Episode 349
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 06, 2017, 05:15:00 PM
Finally got my copy of this episode's Young Animal! Took a while but it's the first official young animal that I got! Waiting for the one with ep350 in it and my budget might allow me to buy the june one. Yeah!