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Title: Volume 39 release
Post by: Hitoshura on April 28, 2017, 09:48:47 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vj04oX9.jpg)

Release date is June 23
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: jackson_hurley on April 28, 2017, 10:21:38 AM
This feel surreal but I think I like it. Except the new design around the edges. I keep forgetting they did that...
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Walter on April 28, 2017, 10:25:23 AM
Now that's a cover. Super early too!
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Demon Knight on April 28, 2017, 10:32:47 AM
Guys is it me or Guts hair looks all black again?
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Menosgade on April 28, 2017, 10:46:06 AM
Guys is it me or Guts hair looks all black again?

 I believe it's the angle. Plus it's not that high res pic.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on April 28, 2017, 10:59:12 AM
Great cover. Love everything about it!
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Mangetsu on April 28, 2017, 11:23:42 AM
Absolutely love this cover! The last one was a disappointment for me, but this one is incredible  :ubik:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Sareth on April 28, 2017, 11:29:35 AM
I like it!
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Demon Knight on April 28, 2017, 11:37:33 AM
I believe it's the angle. Plus it's not that high res pic.
Either this or maybe Guts will be cured as well.


Loving the cover btw, i never thought Berserk will have a very colorful cover like this. It's amazing!
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Patrick on April 28, 2017, 12:15:38 PM
That cover is beautiful! :ubik:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: DarkAdin on April 28, 2017, 12:26:38 PM
Holy fucking shit, this looks amazing.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Johnny Apples on April 28, 2017, 12:36:22 PM
Now that's a cover. Super early too!

Agreed. Much better (and more accurately reflecting of the tankobon's contents) than the preceding volume's cover, too.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Grail on April 28, 2017, 03:16:37 PM
Gorgeous! Creative play of light and shadow, multiple characters, lots o' green! I feel like it's been a while since we had such a verdant cover. A very welcome departure from the "Guts swinging his sword" collection. I hope this is the beginning of a new trend.

Can't wait to get my grubby mitts on this one! :carcus:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: MrFlibble on April 28, 2017, 03:44:22 PM
I really like it when Miura does plot relevant covers, I wish he'd do them more often.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Kaladin on April 28, 2017, 04:27:35 PM
perfection. i hope the posters are this good too.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Tabris on May 04, 2017, 08:50:33 PM
Absolutely awesome cover. It's exactly what I was hoping for.

I can't wait to hold it in my hands hah.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Killakcin on May 12, 2017, 06:04:42 PM
I've got the english translation on pre-order. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 12, 2017, 06:10:14 PM
I've got the english translation on pre-order. Can't wait!

Are you sure it's for volume 39? Because vol 38 is not out yet in English and will probably only be release next year I'd say.

As for me I think I'll get it the japanese version faster then I expected since it'll contain a bunch of my so-far-favorite episodes.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: N7Paladin on May 13, 2017, 04:30:32 AM
Are you sure it's for volume 39? Because vol 38 is not out yet in English and will probably only be release next year I'd say.

Dark Horse's Volume 38 comes out July 18th this year. I haven't heard anything about volume 39, but I doubt we'll see that until at least 2018.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: jackson_hurley on May 13, 2017, 03:12:13 PM
Dark Horse's Volume 38 comes out July 18th this year. I haven't heard anything about volume 39, but I doubt we'll see that until at least 2018.

I meant vol 39 will probably be put next year. I already knew that 38 was gonna be out in july from Dark Horse. My bad though for I was not clear in my last message.

And like you said, I also haven't found anything about vol 39 in english. I just wanted to make sure Killakcin was talking about vol 38 and not 39.

 :guts:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Johnny Apples on May 13, 2017, 04:05:38 PM
I meant vol 39 will probably be put next year. I already knew that 38 was gonna be out in july from Dark Horse. My bad though for I was not clear in my last message.

And like you said, I also haven't found anything about vol 39 in english. I just wanted to make sure Killakcin was talking about vol 38 and not 39.

 :guts:

Is there any info on the volume 39's page count? The amount of pages could give us a clue for as to how many episodes will be contained within
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Hitoshura on May 13, 2017, 05:13:22 PM
Is there any info on the volume 39's page count? The amount of pages could give us a clue for as to how many episodes will be contained within
196 pages according to Amazon.jp.  (https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%99%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AF-39-%E3%83%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E4%B8%89%E6%B5%A6%E5%BB%BA%E5%A4%AA%E9%83%8E/dp/4592144392/)
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Cyrus Jong on May 13, 2017, 06:21:29 PM
196 pages according to Amazon.jp.  (https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%99%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BB%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AF-39-%E3%83%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E4%B8%89%E6%B5%A6%E5%BB%BA%E5%A4%AA%E9%83%8E/dp/4592144392/)

Hmmm...Volume 39 is currently running at about 141 pages, which means there's 55 pages left to go, maybe less if things like the title page or the table of contents count. Mathematically, we could surmise that this volume could contain three more episodes for a total of 10...but we've only got two more months to go before v39 is released.

Eight episodes would be a conservative guess. Nine if they release e351 in both Young Animal and the volume real close to one another or on the same day. Or maybe, and this is the overly optimistic guess: we could have three more episodes to look forward to in v39 (and at least three more this year), and we might get two episodes in June.

EDIT--

And Aaz just ninja'd my attempt to correct this post. :iva:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on May 13, 2017, 06:25:11 PM
Hmmm...Volume 39 is currently running at about 141 pages, which means there's 55 pages left to go, maybe less if things like the title page or the table of contents count. So we could be in for at least three more episodes this year, albeit some relatively short ones like 349, with v39 containing a nice round 10 episodes in total.

Volume 39 will likely have 9 episodes, just like the previous ones. Trying to deduce anything precise from volume page counts is a fool's errand.

For info:

Volume 35 will be 236 pages (like volumes 25, 26, 27, 28), less than what we've been getting recently (252 pages for volume 34, 244 for volume 33) [...] For reference, counting only the episodes themselves we have 216 pages of material in volume 34 with 10 episodes and 196 pages of material in volume 35 with 9 episodes. And now for an even more interesting fact: volume 31 had 196 pages of material with 10 episodes, and volume 30 had 194 pages. Volume 24 might have had even less.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Griffith on May 31, 2017, 07:16:34 AM
I must be the only one that didn't like the cover at first (Guts looks kinda awkward). Now, Volume 37 (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a0/ec/b7/a0ecb72d3b04f0546fdd798bff5bbcea.jpg); there's a cover you can set your watch to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls8376jnLtI). It's growing on me though, mainly because of the lighting and verdancy (thanks, Grail! =). At least there isn't smoke coming out of Guts' ears (https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/berserk/images/b/bd/Volume_37.png/revision/latest?cb=20170513182344) for once.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Johnny Apples on May 31, 2017, 01:35:36 PM
I must be the only one that didn't like the cover at first (Guts looks kinda awkward). Now, Volume 37 (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a0/ec/b7/a0ecb72d3b04f0546fdd798bff5bbcea.jpg); there's a cover you can set your watch to (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls8376jnLtI). It's growing on me though, mainly because of the lighting and verdancy (thanks, Grail! =). At least there isn't smoke coming out of Guts' ears (https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/berserk/images/b/bd/Volume_37.png/revision/latest?cb=20170513182344) for once.

Agreed. Volume 38 would've been a great opportunity to put Silat on the cover. And he's featured more prominently in there than he was in volume 9, the first (and so far last) time he was on a tankobon cover illustration.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Griffith on May 31, 2017, 03:16:15 PM
Volume 38 would've been a great opportunity to put Silat on the cover. And he's featured more prominently in there than he was in volume 9, the first (and so far last) time he was on a tankobon cover illustration.

Not if you broaden your horizons, or perhaps definitions:

(http://i10.mangareader.net/berserk/18/berserk-1591588.jpg)
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Johnny Apples on May 31, 2017, 08:10:46 PM
Not if you broaden your horizons, or perhaps definitions:

(http://i10.mangareader.net/berserk/18/berserk-1591588.jpg)

Well, I'll be... :ubik:
Just replace that 130-man slayer big guy to the Guts' right with Rickert or the Tapasa, and we're golden  :guts:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Walter on June 01, 2017, 12:49:09 PM
Just replace that 130-man slayer big guy to the Guts' right with Rickert or the Tapasa, and we're golden  :guts:

You remembered his 130-man slayer title, but not his name?!
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Johnny Apples on June 02, 2017, 01:13:10 PM
You remembered his 130-man slayer title, but not his name?!

Sometimes a person's reputation precedes him so far, his epithet becomes more known than his personal name  :iva:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Mangetsu on June 22, 2017, 05:27:27 PM
Here is a clearer look on the new Volume cover http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 22, 2017, 05:57:11 PM
Guts doesn't have his white hair on that illustration. Unless it's hidden because of the point of view. He's cured from the stress! :ganishka:

Still is an amazing cover. Can't wait to get it this summer.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Eluvei on June 22, 2017, 06:41:58 PM
Here is a clearer look on the new Volume cover http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/

Thanks for posting. Miura's digital paintings tend to look far better in print, and it's cropped here, but I gotta say this is one of my least favorite covers. I like how whimsical it is and I appreciate something different, but the execution looks kinda weird to me.

The creatures in the foreground look sorta flat like cardboard cutouts, and the detailed trees in the background and white light beams contribute with making it look a little too busy in my opinion. There's something weird about the tonal composition too, I can't exactly put my finger on what (I think the tonal range varies too much from creature to creature). I remember complaining that some of his digital paintings looked like a bunch of disconnected elements glued together, and this is really evident here.

I hope the second novel is about that green guy with red horns far in the back.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Oburi on June 22, 2017, 07:04:50 PM
I love this cover. I tend to like the more busy looking covers though. I don't think messy is the right word but the covers that are filled corner to corner with tons of shit going on are the one's that I enjoy the most, with lot's of details crammed into it. For example, volume 5, 9, 11, 24, 25 and especially this new one. In fact I love this one even more coming off the last one, 38's cover, which was probably my least favorite of the entire series and the last in a line of covers that weren't really doing it for me, starting after Volume 34 (which might be my absolute favorite :femto:).
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Kaladin on June 22, 2017, 07:28:23 PM
I love this cover. I tend to like the more busy looking covers though. I don't think messy is the right word but the covers that are filled corner to corner with tons of shit going on are the one's that I enjoy the most, with lot's of details crammed into it. For example, volume 5, 9, 11, 24, 25 and especially this new one. In fact I love this one even more coming off the last one, 38's cover, which was probably my least favorite of the entire series and the last in a line of covers that weren't really doing it for me, starting after Volume 34 (which might be my absolute favorite :femto:).

Agreed, I love covers where it's not just guts alone looking towards the reader in a certain pose, i get why they do it but i prefer covers with more stuff going on such as this one.

The colors are beautiful and really bring elfhelm to life.
(http://www.younganimal.com/berserk/img/20170623/main.jpg)
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: alexenterprises1 on June 22, 2017, 08:23:47 PM
After looking at the higher resolution cover for a while, something just doesn't sit right with me about it. Why does Guts not have a white tuft of hair? Surely Miura couldn't have overlooked something as significant as that.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on June 22, 2017, 09:11:52 PM
Why does Guts not have a white tuft of hair?
Holy.. How did i miss that, so strangeeee
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Kaladin on June 23, 2017, 01:34:44 AM
It looks like the double sided poster will only have one new illustration.

Here it is, ill find a better quality version soon
(http://i.imgur.com/ZNsnP6S.png)

The second one is the YA magazine cover for episode 344
(http://i.imgur.com/ijRhqSF.jpg)

I'm disappointed, I know he did illustrations for the anime and the novel but still...no room for another one? maybe he was pressed for time. I was really looking forward to these  :judo:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 23, 2017, 09:16:57 AM
Surely Miura couldn't have overlooked something as significant as that.

And yet it seems he did.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Tabris on June 23, 2017, 01:43:47 PM
Holy shit Danann looks beautiful. Can't wait to see the entire thing properly. Also in my hands.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Demon Knight on June 23, 2017, 04:23:58 PM
I mentioned this before but i will mention it again since I got a higher quality. Guts has full black hair again. Some said before maybe it's because of low quality and the angle. But here it's clearly Guts has black hair. Do you guys think Guts hair will be cured by in elfhelm in the upcoming episodes?
(http://i.imgur.com/piIenfS.jpg)
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 23, 2017, 04:26:11 PM
Do you guys think Guts hair will be cured by in elfhelm in the upcoming episodes?

No, I don't think so. How would it happen? What would be the point?
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Demon Knight on June 23, 2017, 04:44:17 PM
Perhaps curing the stress Guts has from Berserker armor and injuries. Along with the hair

But if he really will be cured his eye should be cured as well. But anyway,then why Guts has black hair in the cover anyway then? I dont think Miura ever forgot about it or anything at all. There must be something behind it
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 23, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
Perhaps curing the stress Guts has from Berserker armor and injuries. Along with the hair

But if he really will be cured his eye should be cured as well. But anyway,then why Guts has black hair in the cover anyway then? I dont think Miura ever forgot about it or anything at all. There must be something behind it

Not necessarily. Miura's not a god after all you know. As much detail oriented he is, he can still make mistakes here and there. It's not impossible that he didn't spot that detail. Or it could totally be volontarily made. Who knows?
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 23, 2017, 06:35:36 PM
If anyone is curious, the newest episode is not in the volume.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 23, 2017, 06:37:41 PM
If anyone is curious, the newest episode is not in the volume.

Wow, so there's only 8 episodes in the volume? Damn, that's not very encouraging...

I think they could have included 351 in there if they wanted to, so it means they're adjusting to the pace they expect in the future... Probably in an attempt to secure regular volume releases?
The only other explanation I can think of is that Miura decided while drawing 351 that he wanted to insert an episode between it and 350, and there just wasn't enough time to do it. But that's much less likely than the first possibility.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 23, 2017, 06:43:32 PM
Wow, so there's only 8 episodes in the volume? Damn, that's not very encouraging...

It seems clear this volume was rushed out.  It answers a lot of question and is a shame.  Hopefully this is the last time this sort of thing has to happen.  Also, there don't seem to be any apparent changes in the episodes.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 23, 2017, 06:48:57 PM
Are there any new romanized names in the little character sheets?

It seems clear this volume was rushed out.

How so? Volumes are simple collections of episodes. They don't need to be prepared many months in advance.

Hopefully this is the last time this sort of thing has to happen.

What sort of thing? Having only 8 episodes? We'll see, but I don't think they took that decision lightly.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 23, 2017, 06:59:15 PM
Are there any new romanized names in the little character sheets?

Just the usual, no new ones.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: alexenterprises1 on June 23, 2017, 07:01:30 PM
But anyway,then why Guts has black hair in the cover anyway then? I dont think Miura ever forgot about it or anything at all. There must be something behind it

To be fair, Miura has forgotten small details on Guts like this before.
On the last page of episode 342 Guts was missing the scar on his nose. I can only assume that Miura has been working tirelessly to give us this years episodes and has understandably missed this small detail, like he did then.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 23, 2017, 07:21:07 PM
Just the usual, no new ones.

Too bad, but thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Eluvei on June 23, 2017, 07:28:43 PM
To be fair, Miura has forgotten small details on Guts like this before.

You're right, but we're talking about a volume cover here. I doubt his assistants and editor wouldn't point it out to him. My guess is he thought it looked good like this and just didn't bother to change it.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 23, 2017, 07:41:27 PM
My guess is he thought it looked good like this and just didn't bother to change it.

Uh...  I doubt that.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Kaladin on June 23, 2017, 07:56:05 PM
I know that in recent times Miura hasn't done any significant changes to episodes in the volume release but i was hoping he might touch up episode 347. That episode looks worse than any other episode from the last few years, very unpolished.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 23, 2017, 07:59:21 PM
I know that in recent times Miura hasn't done any significant changes to episodes in the volume release but i was hoping he might touch up episode 347. That episode looks worse than any other episode from the last few years, very unpolished.

Well I thoroughly disagree with that, but no there are no changes to this episode.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: MrFlibble on June 23, 2017, 08:23:58 PM
I know that in recent times Miura hasn't done any significant changes to episodes in the volume release but i was hoping he might touch up episode 347. That episode looks worse than any other episode from the last few years, very unpolished.

I agree, the facial expressions in that episode are hideous.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Kaladin on June 23, 2017, 08:29:24 PM
I don't think it looks hideous at all,  don't get me wrong. the episode looks good but some of the faces looked off in some panels and when you compare it to the following episodes, it simply doesn't match up in my opinion.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Arles on June 23, 2017, 08:44:00 PM
Yuka Kuramochi has been distributing what I guess are prints of the extras/promo images along with the release of Vol.39 and the new Novel.
Source: https://twitter.com/yukakuramoti/status/878090543045136385

Can anyone confirm if these have been seen before? I like Guts's "collage"

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC-aq8LV0AEZ1Sz.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC-aq8WUwAAi4-2.jpg)

Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 23, 2017, 08:58:39 PM
Yuka Kuramochi has been distributing what I guess are prints of the extras/promo images along with the release of Vol.39 and the new Novel.

Yes, this was a promotional operation to advertise those releases. It also includes a full page version of volume 39's cover illustration.

(http://www.aazealh.net/Divers/Vol39-cover_newspaper-promo.jpg)

Can anyone confirm if these have been seen before? I like Guts's "collage"

The collage itself is new, the rest isn't.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Arles on June 23, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
It also includes a full page version of volume 39's cover illustration.
The collage itself is new, the rest isn't.

Neat, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: RaffoBaffo on June 23, 2017, 10:51:20 PM
If anyone is curious, the newest episode is not in the volume.
Ouch.
So less than 200 pages.
That hurts more than the Anime.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 23, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
Ouch.
So less than 200 pages.
That hurts more than the Anime.

I wouldn't say more but close. That thing was pretty awefull vs only 8 episodes. :serpico:
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 24, 2017, 12:08:07 AM
Ouch.
So less than 200 pages.

We already knew the page count: it's 196 pages. (http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=15309.msg247667#msg247667) As for actual manga content, it's 172 pages total.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Sareth on June 24, 2017, 03:08:00 AM
I know that in recent times Miura hasn't done any significant changes to episodes in the volume release but i was hoping he might touch up episode 347. That episode looks worse than any other episode from the last few years, very unpolished.

That's disappointing, I was hoping that a lot of the wonkiness from 344-347 would be fixed.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Eluvei on June 24, 2017, 05:25:10 PM
That's disappointing, I was hoping that a lot of the wonkiness from 344-347 would be fixed.

Apart from some trees and bushes that look kinda weird in 344, I can't think of many things that should have been fixed. There's a noticeable change in style, and some traced closeups and group shots, but I think the episodes look good.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Bender on June 27, 2017, 03:17:59 PM
That's disappointing, I was hoping that a lot of the wonkiness from 344-347 would be fixed.

My volume came the other day and I really don't see any "wonkiness".  I really think people are making a big deal over nothing.  All the art work in the issues of Young Animal has always looked fine to me.  It is these weird scans that people are seeing that are different.  Going on and on about line thickness and traced panels is asinine.

The volume looks great and the digital painting of all the elves looks fantastic.  He really has mastered a new skill.  Maybe this is part of the reason why releases have slowed down, he wanted to learn how to draw/paint another way.

The style Miura draws some things may have changed over the last few years, but that is nothing new.  Also they may be using different tools to create some of the backgrounds and tones, but this is nothing drastic.  If you want to criticize his work, I think you can comment on the already mentioned cover art.  If you really want to get nit picky there are a few panels where there are some blank faces on characters, and the only reason they stand out is because he usually takes the time to add those tiny details in.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 27, 2017, 04:53:21 PM
If you really want to get nit picky there are a few panels where there are some blank faces on characters, and the only reason they stand out is because he usually takes the time to add those tiny details in.

Just so it's clear, most of the background faces or art that doesn't have much added value is drawn by assistants and not Miura himself. And the difference between his work and that of his assistants is typically quite easy to spot.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Mangetsu on June 27, 2017, 05:38:37 PM
My volume came the other day and I really don't see any "wonkiness".  I really think people are making a big deal over nothing.  All the art work in the issues of Young Animal has always looked fine to me.  It is these weird scans that people are seeing that are different.  Going on and on about line thickness and traced panels is asinine.

The volume looks great and the digital painting of all the elves looks fantastic.  He really has mastered a new skill.  Maybe this is part of the reason why releases have slowed down, he wanted to learn how to draw/paint another way.

The style Miura draws some things may have changed over the last few years, but that is nothing new.  Also they may be using different tools to create some of the backgrounds and tones, but this is nothing drastic.  If you want to criticize his work, I think you can comment on the already mentioned cover art.  If you really want to get nit picky there are a few panels where there are some blank faces on characters, and the only reason they stand out is because he usually takes the time to add those tiny details in.

Although the line work looks much better in the volume, it is clearly obvious that Miura has been using much thicker lines for his characters. This could well just come from him drawing on his tablet, but all in all compared to the way he used to draw faces, i don't think it looks great in some of the episodes that we have in this volume. The best example i have would be this panel from episode 347.

(https://i.redd.it/dvmi3lfvo9nx.png)

Unfortunately we don't know the extent of Miuras digital work. If he has fully transitioned by now, i would love to see him experimenting more with the lines that tablets offer.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Kaladin on June 27, 2017, 06:05:58 PM
There are also a few instances in the volume where panels get reused.
On the left, there are obviously differences but there are also striking similarities, hatch lines are placed in the exact same places throughout, the nose, the bangs on the hair etc.... On the right, the whole thing is copied then slightly adjusted because of the lighting of the scene. Again, this isn't a big deal at all and I'm sure you all noticed as well but they stuck out like a sore thumb.

(http://i.imgur.com/k7SfmDG.png)

My only complaint about the current berserk art style (and this is just minor) is the way guts' face looks, this is just personal preference but i prefer how he looked in previous volumes. Berserk's art style never stays and it will continue to evolve in the coming years. I hope i didn't come off as if i was making a big deal about any of this because that wasn't the intention.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 27, 2017, 07:21:52 PM
Some quick observations, having received my volume. First, Miura has a new assistant called Minoru Hirata. Second I really like the poster of the Sovereign of the Flower Storm, I think it's one of the best illustrations in recent memory. Lastly, I love the little picture inside even more (it's about this volume's real stars: the mushrooms).
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Bender on June 27, 2017, 09:59:49 PM
Just so it's clear, most of the background faces or art that doesn't have much added value is drawn by assistants and not Miura himself. And the difference between his work and that of his assistants is typically quite easy to spot.

Even when dealing with Guts and the rest of the main cast?  It's only a couple of instances, but it just stuck out because for majority of the time, there is detail when it can fit.

Although the line work looks much better in the volume, it is clearly obvious that Miura has been using much thicker lines for his characters.

To me this is a bit silly.  The thickness of the lines on a characters face varies from panel to panel, just like they always have.  I grabbed a few volumes off the shelf to find a comparison, opened volume 33, and right there on the first page is a similar profile of Guts.  The lines of his neck, jaw, nose, ear, and parts of his cheek are pretty much the same compared to the panel from volume 38. 

Again, this isn't a big deal at all and I'm sure you all noticed as well but they stuck out like a sore thumb.

I did not notice this while reading episodically, and I can't say I would have if I was even reading it in the volume.  A director I work with often uses a phrase that I believe applies here.  "If they are paying attention to that, I lost them."

It is interesting to see him recompose art to use again.  I wonder if this will be a common thing.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Aazealh on June 27, 2017, 10:25:11 PM
Even when dealing with Guts and the rest of the main cast?  It's only a couple of instances, but it just stuck out because for majority of the time, there is detail when it can fit.

It completely depends on the scene/panel, but yeah even the main cast can be drawn by an assistant. Of course the beauty of it is it's not too obvious so long as you're not expressly looking for it.

It is interesting to see him recompose art to use again.  I wonder if this will be a common thing.

This is related in that I think reusing panels is something that's being tried by the team to lighten their work load. Seems they're trying to remix Miura's own artwork to produce a quality result with less effort. Obviously it's had varying degrees of success, so I'm not sure how it'll go in the future.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Nothingwillbewong on June 27, 2017, 10:36:07 PM
This is related in that I think reusing panels is something that's being tried by the team to lighten their work load. Seems they're trying to remix Miura's own artwork to produce a quality result with less effort. Obviously it's had varying degrees of success, so I'm not sure how it'll go in the future.
  Hope it will be used as it seems to be used until now, as clever time management, and give attention to the panels that do need that visual level of miura giving it his all. The panels where that happens were more verbal exposition so I'm not scared of this happening as much in these coming panels
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Eluvei on June 27, 2017, 11:19:30 PM
Going on and on about line thickness and traced panels is asinine.

I guess some people are a little more interested in the details of his technique's evolution and the choices he makes as his style changes. I spend quite some time looking at Miura's artwork, and discouraging this kind of discussion altogether just because some people make crude comments that may sound disparaging is a bit rude.

The panels where that happens were more verbal exposition so I'm not scared of this happening as much in these coming panels

Yeah, overall I'm perfectly okay with where they're repurposing drawings so far. And I think it's very likely that this is gonna be harder to spot from now on.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Walter on June 28, 2017, 12:52:11 AM
Second I really like the poster of the Sovereign of the Flower Storm, I think it's one of the best illustrations in recent memory.

It really is pretty incredible. He's made quite a bit of progress in the year since the we first saw his digital colored work. The hands of the sovereign look lifelike.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Rupert Sinclair on June 28, 2017, 04:23:08 AM
I really like the poster of the Sovereign of the Flower Storm, I think it's one of the best illustrations in recent memory.

I was surprised by the red eyes. :isidro:  They go well with the pink.

Lastly, I love the little picture inside even more (it's about this volume's real stars: the mushrooms).

I like the little elf hiding behind them, the effect makes it look very ghostly.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Walter on June 30, 2017, 01:11:34 AM
On the preview page for Volume 40, no time frame is given for its release. If you'll recall, Volume 39 was teased in 38 with a "coming 2017" page, which was more than we'd ever gotten in the past, in terms of a longterm schedule for Berserk. This time though, much like volumes in the past, it just says "乞う、ご期待!" Roughly translated as: look forward to it!

Slightly disappointing, but it's not as if these ad pages are set in stone.

Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: N7Paladin on June 30, 2017, 03:14:01 AM
I can't wait to check out all this awesome material in 2019 when Dark Horse releases volume 39.  :schierke:


I might just order the Japanese one now that I'm thinking of that.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: jackson_hurley on June 30, 2017, 10:06:38 AM
I can't wait to check out all this awesome material in 2019 when Dark Horse releases volume 39.  :schierke:


I might just order the Japanese one now that I'm thinking of that.

We'll probably get it next summer. So it's not that bad. Though I get how you feel. I started to get the Japenese version not too long ago also.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Walter on June 30, 2017, 06:50:14 PM
Took the time to scan the posters. The Sovereign one is truly amazing, like I said before it seems he's made progress since just last year, as evidenced by the more natural integration of various layers, and the more realistic forms he's creating with his tools. Less to say about Guts, this time. Same techniques on display thereT as we saw on the Vol 36 cover.

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/sovereign_39-small.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/sovereign_39-small.png) 

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/guts_39-small.png) (http://www.skullknight.net/images/guts_39-small.png)
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Griffith on June 30, 2017, 07:01:27 PM
Cool, the Danan one is indeed gorgeous. It also sends home the point that Rochine's imitation of a "queen of elves," like her "elves," wasn't bad. Good thing not close enough to trigger flashbacks for Guts; the posters combined would equal a tragedy. =)
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Sareth on July 10, 2017, 05:01:23 PM
Just got my Volume 39 today along with the latest Young Animal. Still wish some of the wonky faces and line art from 345-347 had been touched up, the only difference I found so far is that Guts' neck was slimmed a bit.
 
(http://i.imgur.com/jCWcbpR.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/ieEXVy2.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: Grail on July 10, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
Nice catch there, Sareth! Slimming down the neck was a good call.
Title: Re: Volume 39 release
Post by: RaffoBaffo on August 05, 2017, 02:21:14 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/j2SRjv/Poster_39.gif)