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Title: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 16, 2004, 06:12:23 PM
Yah this is a thread where you can post things to help Walter along with his upgrades.
I have a few done and one under construction.

New Post
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_topic.jpg)

No New Post
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/brand.jpg)

If you want to move this topic Walter or Cronus then go ahead.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: DemonX on July 16, 2004, 06:16:28 PM
Yah this is a thread where you can post things to help Walter along with his upgrades.
I have a few done and one under construction.

New Post
(http://www.angelfire.com/anime6/lastspartan/Open_topic.psd.jpg)

No New Post
(http://www.angelfire.com/anime6/lastspartan/brand.jpg)

If you want to move this topic Walter or Cronus then go ahead.

Crap thats a pritty good idea. I would help myself but the only thing I have knowlage in at all is coloring, not making the pic itself  :'(.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Shane on July 16, 2004, 06:28:13 PM
what about bleeding brand=new post
non bleeding=no new post  ;)
(http://img12.exs.cx/img12/5029/brand.gif)
(http://img12.exs.cx/img12/9232/brandbleed.gif)(i stole these from the sammys berserk game site)
i think yours would be a easier to tell if theres a new post or not
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 16, 2004, 06:34:44 PM
what about bleeding brand=new post
non bleeding=no new post  ;)
(http://img12.exs.cx/img12/5029/brand.gif)
(http://img12.exs.cx/img12/9232/brandbleed.gif)(i stole these from the sammys berserk game site)
i think yours would be a easier to tell if theres a new post or not
Trust me, I tried to make it look like the red one was bleeding.  :-\

Oh well I guess I'll edit it.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 16, 2004, 08:42:09 PM
all I see is angelfire.  Walter, I see lots of red "X" on the reply using the Simple Machines theme
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 16, 2004, 09:07:42 PM
all I see is angelfire.  Walter, I see lots of red "X" on the reply using the Simple Machines theme
There, happy? Oh and obviously you must not know what upgrading means. It means there are going to be a lot more red X's. Haha just trust Walter. He'll have it fixed.

Here is a banner for the top of this forum because all it says is "Skullknight.net". I left the left side blank because I know how you used to let the date and time go there. But if the new look isn't going to be that I can throw in Casca or Griff. If you want it that is.

(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Skullknight.jpg)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 16, 2004, 11:38:06 PM
I dont know if SK should use the brand. Then it would be just like The Hawks board. ???
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 17, 2004, 12:13:21 AM
I dont know if SK should use the brand. Then it would be just like The Hawks board. ???
I was afraid someone would say that. I had an idea before I did the brand. It was to put Guts behind the red one and Skullknight behind the dull one.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Cronus on July 17, 2004, 01:47:39 AM
Yah this is a thread where you can post things to help Walter along with his upgrades.
I have a few done and one under construction.

New Post
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_topic.jpg)

No New Post
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/brand.jpg)

If you want to move this topic Walter or Cronus then go ahead.

I like the icons, but like it's been said, it would make this place look like The Hawks.  How about make some neat versions of the rose insignia?

Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 17, 2004, 02:46:30 AM


I like the icons, but like it's been said, it would make this place look like The Hawks.  How about make some neat versions of the rose insignia?
?
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_topic_rose_2.jpg)
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_Topic_rose.jpg)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on July 17, 2004, 02:54:53 AM
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_topic_rose_2.jpg)
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_Topic_rose.jpg)

Those look good.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 17, 2004, 04:03:40 AM
nice. much more original.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: DemonX on July 17, 2004, 04:07:00 AM
Holy shit that was fast. Looks like all Jon has to do is snap his fingers and its done.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Shane on July 17, 2004, 04:37:19 AM

?
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_topic_rose_2.jpg)
(http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/Open_Topic_rose.jpg)
very nice, jon!
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Sparnage on July 17, 2004, 04:37:28 AM
I reacon a little "Demon child" and/or Dragon slayer such as these two (smaller than shown) should be used for icons of sorts, I have no computer coloring skills of my own but still think they could be used to "Berserk" up the site a bit more.

(http://img11.exs.cx/img11/848/Demonchild.jpg)               (http://img11.exs.cx/img11/4866/Dragonslayer1.jpg)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 17, 2004, 05:02:38 AM
You guys shut up and help, haha. Here is my idea for the little icons we have for how many post we have.

Admins = Red Bejelit

Mods = Regular Bejelit
Everyone else = Brand  (http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/brand_icon.jpg)

I figured some people ARE nothing but sacrifices to the admins and mods. You know who you are  ;).
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: DemonX on July 17, 2004, 05:08:07 AM
You guys shut up and help, haha. Here is my idea for the little icons we have for how many post we have.

Admins = Red Bejelit

Mods = Regular Bejelit
Everyone else = Brand  (http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/brand_icon.jpg)


Woah wait a sec... has walter even acknowlaged this yet?
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Sparnage on July 17, 2004, 05:12:54 AM
Numerious Berserk icons could be used in plenty more cases around the site than just the post count.



Woah wait a sec... has walter even acknowlaged this yet?

Probably not
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 17, 2004, 08:57:47 AM
This is good though. Get those creative juices flowing
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Aazealh on July 17, 2004, 09:32:32 AM
Everyone else = Brand  (http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Scarface13/brand_icon.jpg)

Just wanted to tell that if you mind this being used already on another Berserk forum, it is. (http://membres.lycos.fr/berserkfrance/forum/viewtopic.php?t=501)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 17, 2004, 10:08:15 AM
yeah, but its in another language ;D
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Aazealh on July 17, 2004, 10:56:25 AM
Haha yeah, I'm just giving the info, it's up to him ;D.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Griffith on July 17, 2004, 07:05:14 PM
New splash page if you're interested (current one is pretty darn tootin' pretty)

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/sknetsplash.gif)

Probably as close as any one image can come to embodying Berserk. I mean, the deeper relationships and important parallels of the series are all there. And for those that wouldn’t know or see why, it’s also a big cool skull with a bunch of Berserk related iconography popping out of it, so that works with skullknight.net too. =)

Colors and whatnot might still need to be adjusted to fit the overall scheme of the site, if it were to be used.

-Griff
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 17, 2004, 07:38:05 PM
New splash page if you're interested (current one is pretty darn tootin' pretty)

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/sknetsplash.gif)

Probably as close as any one image can come to embodying Berserk. I mean, the deeper relationships and important parallels of the series are all there. And for those that wouldn’t know or see why, it’s also a big cool skull with a bunch of Berserk related iconography popping out of it, so that works with skullknight.net too. =)

Colors and whatnot might still need to be adjusted to fit the overall scheme of the site, if it were to be used.

-Griff
I hate to be a picky guy but isn't the eye in the skull supposed to be brown like Guts? I just always thought I saw Guts with that slit looking eye and Griffith that that tube looking eye like the Beherit has. Other than that the picture looks pretty fucking awesome Griff No Mo! The skull with only one eye is supposed to represent Guts. The rose with thorns represents Skull Knight and the Beherit represents Griffith. Other than that are you proposing to help make a new flash opening? I would help if so.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: DemonX on July 17, 2004, 07:54:09 PM
Speaking of that skull... I had this stashed somewhere that maybe could be used for somthing?

(http://img30.photobucket.com/albums/v89/FallenBerserker/Berserk_petite.gif)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Griffith on July 17, 2004, 08:12:48 PM
I hate to be a picky guy but isn't the eye in the skull supposed to be brown like Guts? I just always thought I saw Guts with that slit looking eye and Griffith that that tube looking eye like the Beherit has.

No.

Here's everything as I see it, and colored it, whatever Miura's original intent may have been.

1. The left eye: though it is representative of Guts one eye, and indeed the left half of the face is obviously Guts. The eye itself is a Femto/Griffith homage. It dually refers to that side of Guts, or the importance of Griffith/Femto to him and what drives him. The evil he bred in him through the events of the eclipse. While the eye is looking out at us from Guts you could say it is looking inside of him.

2. The Behelt: Obviously God Hand, Evil, Skull Knight, Griffith, Guts as well (since almost everything in the picture crosses)

3. Crown of thorns and rose: Skull Knight, Gaiseric, Power, King, Griffith, Guts.

4. The Skull: Represents Skully and Guts, the skull is dark to represent the armor as well, completing their connection.

There are many other ideas represented and cotrasted in this image, I pointed out a lot of the specifics but there are infinitly more subtle representations of death, power, fear, evil, deception, corruption, violation and struggle that are better felt and interpreted than described.

For instance, the Beherit hatching out of the skull.

-Griff
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 17, 2004, 09:05:35 PM


No.

Here's everything as I see it, and colored it, whatever Miura's original intent may have been.

1. The left eye: though it is representative of Guts one eye, and indeed the left half of the face is obviously Guts. The eye itself is a Femto/Griffith homage. It dually refers to that side of Guts, or the importance of Griffith/Femto to him and what drives him. The evil he bred in him through the events of the eclipse. While the eye is looking out at us from Guts you could say it is looking inside of him.

2. The Behelt: Obviously God Hand, Evil, Skull Knight, Griffith, Guts as well (since almost everything in the picture crosses)

3. Crown of thorns and rose: Skull Knight, Gaiseric, Power, King, Griffith, Guts.

4. The Skull: Represents Skully and Guts, the skull is dark to represent the armor as well, completing their connection.

There are many other ideas represented and cotrasted in this image, I pointed out a lot of the specifics but there are infinitly more subtle representations of death, power, fear, evil, deception, corruption, violation and struggle that are better felt and interpreted than described.

For instance, the Beherit hatching out of the skull.

-Griff
Oh, well in that case I stand corrected. Nice explanation and thanks for clearing that up. But what did you mean a new flash?
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Griffith on July 18, 2004, 01:16:25 AM
But what did you mean a new flash?

I didn't say anything about a new flash, but I see you brought it up. ;)

I don't really see a need for a new flash animation, the current one serves no purpose at all for one thing, except being huge. Walter created it mostly out of whimsy I think since we had all these Berserk/Comic book hero colorings I did for a total site SUPERGUTS revamp. Speaking of which, here's a favorite of mine that didn't make the cut...

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/Wildverine.jpg)

Oh, and check this out...

http://images.google.com/images?q=Kentarou+Miura&ie=UTF-8&hl=en

Second row on the far right, I hope Miura googles himself. ;D
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 18, 2004, 07:20:27 PM
(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/Wildverine.jpg)
Haha, Wyldverine. Nice, I had a Batguts on here but I lost it. It'll probably take me a while to find it  :P. Oh and sorry for the flash thing, I missread it. It was splash   :-\.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 18, 2004, 09:34:31 PM
haha. WOLVERINE?
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Smith on July 19, 2004, 02:42:30 PM
If Guts had fought with Wyldvering instead, i bet he would have lose badly  :P



P.S The board is so much nicer now  :D





Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Shane on July 19, 2004, 04:57:28 PM
P.S The board is so much nicer now  :D
you sure are right, billybob.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Walter on July 19, 2004, 06:30:29 PM
Thanks for all of the suggestions thus far, guys.

So far, I've incorporated the excellent on/off buttons (rose insignia) that Jon Schaffer made, re-implemented the old Beherit-star rating system, created a new banner for the top, from Trans' original design (its a little plain, but I dig it) and re-wrote the BBS template from scratch, following the old colors.

What's left? I want to:

a) Get the old color schemes as selectable templates. Remember when this place used to be purple?  :-[ And the TRU BLU we had going just over a year ago. This   shouldn't be hard, but I'll have to find screencaps I've taken throughout the BBS' history. 

b) I want to take advantage of the new board's programming and re-design the layout.  Currently, it looks like our good old sk.net however, in the future, there will certainly be changes ahead.  You may occasionally see the layout blipping into and out of solidity, but all that means is that I'm hard at work.

c) Re-writing the main page news and several other quirks that really aren't worth mentioning now (oddities with buttons like reply, mostly).

-Walt

PS: Encyclopedia? What Encyclopedia?
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Shane on July 19, 2004, 06:35:26 PM
YAY! Beherit things are back
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 19, 2004, 11:02:19 PM
Looks good Walt. Im impressed.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Shurikn on July 20, 2004, 01:08:22 AM
nice !!  phantasmagoric !

As for the banner, do you want me to send you the big version of the picture that Griffith colored if he doesn't still have it ? (my avatar) PM me if he doesn't have it and you want it...
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Walter on July 20, 2004, 12:22:22 PM
nice !!  phantasmagoric !

As for the banner, do you want me to send you the big version of the picture that Griffith colored if he doesn't still have it ? (my avatar) PM me if he doesn't have it and you want it...
Uhh, what? I'm already using his re-colored version. As for whether or not I have an original copy of the Skull, check the encyclopedia's (http://skullknight.net/encyclopedia) background.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Smith on July 20, 2004, 02:49:01 PM

check the encyclopedia's (http://skullknight.net/encyclopedia) background.


Hmmm mentioning Encyclopedia, is there any more things that need to be added?
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on July 20, 2004, 05:11:31 PM
Glad I could help Walt (sorry, I just can't say Wally :P). The banner looks awesome, especially since you have that black, white and RED theme to it. Classical. Great job  8)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Walter on July 20, 2004, 07:57:52 PM
Check it out, the news page is for the first time in its long existence, finally legit-looking!

http://skullknight.net

PS:  I'll be carrying over the skull and thorn theme to the Enc. next. It works out quite nicely for navigating those nasty subsections, such as the World section.  But incorporating all of that, like everything else I do single-handedly, takes time.

PPS: Can anyone figure out a better idea for the layout of the buttons (community/encyclopedia) ?  It works like it is but... well it's just somehow not perfect.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: C on July 20, 2004, 08:14:19 PM
can i help by making a gif?  ;D,

im decent at that at least  :),

let me know

 - c
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Walter on July 20, 2004, 08:17:08 PM
can i help by making a gif?  ;D,

im decent at that at least  :),

let me know

 - c
As long as it doesnt involve double-spacing, go for it. Also... your sig is frikken huge!
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: C on July 20, 2004, 08:31:24 PM
sorry, i thought it was cool,

but i resized it,

let me know if you have any good gif ideas or where you would want one,

ill just think of some different stuff and let you know  ;D

 - c
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Shurikn on July 20, 2004, 08:51:38 PM

Uhh, what? I'm already using his re-colored version. As for whether or not I have an original copy of the Skull, check the encyclopedia's (http://skullknight.net/encyclopedia) background.

Ho.. it's just that i see the black&white version in the banner with the colored rose only (with the words "beneath the mask" in the banner too) my link to the site is right on the bbs so i never seen the colored version... Sorry  :-[ it's been a while i went to the encyclopedia so i haven't seen the background too.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Shane on July 20, 2004, 09:34:07 PM
cool! its looking nice so far
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Trench on July 20, 2004, 10:49:50 PM
Walt, the site looks very much improved
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: nir085 on July 21, 2004, 04:58:30 AM
Maybe I missed the post that addressed this, but have you decided to scrap the oekaki/archived news/misc./manga section altogether or just have not gotten around to integrating them into the site? Well, I know you're going to put the translations link, even though the link is easy to remember. The archived news is not really necessary, but why not? The above section are pretty much dead, but they're still cool to look, just not the life of the site.

By the way, good job on keeping a big site active for four years! That's pretty damn impressive.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Walter on July 21, 2004, 12:16:21 PM
Maybe I missed the post that addressed this, but have you decided to scrap the oekaki/archived news/misc./manga section altogether or just have not gotten around to integrating them into the site?
Oekaki, old news, misc are on their way to the trash can. Out with the old, in with the Encyclopedia, I always say.

Quote
Well, I know you're going to put the translations link, even though the link is easy to remember.
It will be in the Enc. eventually.

Quote
By the way, good job on keeping a big site active for four years! That's pretty damn impressive.
Thankee.

sorry, i thought it was cool,

but i resized it,

let me know if you have any good gif ideas or where you would want one,
Well uh... I don't really have any plans to involve animated .GIFs in the enyclopedia. That's sort of like graffiti in the museum, ya know?
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Woland on July 23, 2004, 06:12:59 PM
A couple of things.

In the character section of the encyclopedia I saw "&nbsp" in front of the names of several characters in the Golden Age.

On the topic of the Encyclopedia, Hot damn it looks good, as well as the Boards' new look.
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Griffith on July 23, 2004, 09:58:59 PM
Well uh... I don't really have any plans to involve animated .GIFs in the enyclopedia. That's sort of like graffiti in the museum, ya know?

(http://www.skullknight.net/griffith/mona-lisa.jpg)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: C on July 24, 2004, 02:55:50 AM
excellent

 ;D
Title: What is up with the skull and beherit?
Post by: yancank00k on October 11, 2004, 10:38:59 PM
It has one eye, has a mad sneer... sorta like Guts??? I mean its eyes are correct with Guts's.... Hope its not gonna be him.... Sorry if someone brought this up!
Title: Re: WHAT IS UP WITH THE SKULL AND Beherit?
Post by: IV on October 11, 2004, 10:59:06 PM
Well for this answer check this (http://www.skullknight.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=3370.msg69758#msg69758).
Hope this helps. ;D
Title: Re: WHAT IS UP WITH THE SKULL AND Beherit?
Post by: yancank00k on October 11, 2004, 11:08:01 PM
 Thanks a bunch!
 Arrg I'm so late =P (yet though I've been into Berserk and I used to frequent this site a lot)
 I should have looked at it a similar way that "Griffith No More!" described it, since I believe this picture came from a chapter index page of a volume, not in any actual story panels. SHUT THIS THREAD DOWN!
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Jon Schaffer on October 17, 2004, 09:58:05 PM
PPS: Can anyone figure out a better idea for the layout of the buttons (community/encyclopedia) ?  It works like it is but... well it's just somehow not perfect.
Just noticed this. You might not like these but maybe you will.

(Cursor Off Image)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Encyclopedia-icon-on.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Community-icon-on.jpg)

(Cursor On Image)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Encyclopedia-icon-off.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Community-icon-off.jpg)

Encyclopedia Off (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Encyclopedia-icon-on.gif)
Encyclopedia On (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Encyclopedia-icon-off.gif)
Community Off (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Community-icon-on.gif)
Community On (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/lastspartan/Community-icon-off.gif)
Title: Re: Helping Walter
Post by: Walter on December 07, 2004, 02:17:11 PM
I really like the design of those images a lot, just not the choices of character art.  :-\  But I'll get on it. So sorry for the lack of replies. I've been swamped since August. But seriously, those look great and I will indeed use those designs once I find appropriate character art.