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Title: Episode 198
Post by: Olivier Hague on March 20, 2002, 06:28:26 PM
Isidro has a hard time with the troll, but Schierke appears to save the day.
She creates some kind of barrier to protect Casca, Farnese and Isidro. The troll probably isn't alone. She then uses all kind of magic projectiles. ^_^;
Farnese is totally freaked out.
When Schierke tells Isidro he sould leave if he doesn't want to get killed, he gets mad at "the old witch"... but he then realizes that she's far younger than he previously thought (let's say his hands felt it ^_^; ).
It's now Schierke's turn to get mad, and she uses some kind of hypnosis spell on him.
When Guts and Serpico are back, Schierke is gone, Farnese is still confused, and Isidro thinks he's a monkey.
In the shadows, Schierke sees Guts and Casca and feels that there's "something" about them that seems to attract "the wicked"...
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: puella on March 20, 2002, 06:41:31 PM
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In the shadows, Schierke sees Guts and Casca and feels that there's "something" about them that seems to attract "the wicked"...

Does it mean Schierke is likely to notice their brand? ::)
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Dare on March 20, 2002, 07:03:17 PM
I have a question
where's suppose that Guts an Kaska are travelling?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: *Gyom* on March 21, 2002, 04:34:48 AM
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She creates some kind of barrier to protect Casca, Farnese and Isidro. The troll probably isn't alone. She then uses all kind of magic projectiles. ^_^;


humm... i thought the troll would be with guts band, did i dream about it ?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: puella on March 21, 2002, 04:55:40 AM
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humm... i thought the troll would be with guts band, did i dream about it ?
Like Chewbacca? ;D
I don't think so Lliug. The troll can't be Guts' friend, definitely not.

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I have a question
where's suppose that Guts an Kaska are travelling?
 
To Elfhelm. I think this board's FAQ would help you a lot. :)
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 21, 2002, 09:39:46 AM
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humm... i thought the troll would be with guts band, did i dream about it ?


Yeah it was mentioned, but I guess its not gonna happen.

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When Guts and Serpico are back, Schierke is gone, Farnese is still confused, and Isidro thinks he's a monkey.


LOL...I wonder how long the effects gonna last on poor Isidro!! Thanks for the summary Olivier!
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Ger24 on March 21, 2002, 03:48:15 PM
I thought the troll was with Schierke.  Sounds intresting how Schierke has these magic powers I thought there wasn't going to be much magic in Berserk.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on March 21, 2002, 05:31:26 PM
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When Schierke tells Isidro he sould leave if he doesn't want to get killed, he gets mad at "the old witch"... but he then realizes that she's far younger than he previously thought (let's say his hands felt it ^_^; ).


??? waht did Isidro do? what did his hand fell? ??? sorry i'm just stupid.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on March 21, 2002, 07:38:58 PM
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??? waht did Isidro do? what did his hand fell? ??? sorry i'm just stupid.


(o Y o)


maybe?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on March 21, 2002, 07:51:35 PM
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(o Y o)


maybe?


probley.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: *Gyom* on March 22, 2002, 08:08:22 AM
anyway, hasn't Isidro always been a monkey ? ^^
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 22, 2002, 11:11:48 AM
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(o Y o)
maybe?


Come on! For her, its more like ------------> .   .

:D :D :D

Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: CnC on March 22, 2002, 10:12:07 PM
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Come on! For her, its more like ------------> .   .


well guess how he knows shes young
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Griffith on March 23, 2002, 07:06:55 PM

(http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198_file/a47.jpg)
Poopsie shows off some of that awesome witchcraft! Impressive, no?
Meanwhile, Isidro assumes the position. ;)


(http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198_file/a48.jpg)
“Hi there, cutie.”

(http://myhome.dreamx.net/miendam/kuripuck3.JPG)
“Uh…hi, my name is Phuck…I mean Puck...”


(http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198_file/a49.jpg)
Though only her second appearance in the series, Poopsie already has major "star power!"
HAR! HAR! HAR! :D

...oh God.

(http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198_file/a50.jpg)
Don't look into those eyes Isidro, she’s magically babe-licious!


http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198.htm

Geez, I assumed that Isidro would come on to the witch long ago, or that they'd "hook up" as they say. But Miura already has Kid-Ro grabbing her breasts, during their first encounter no less.  We all know which land of paradise Miura has on his mind. :)

-Griffith
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: roberto999 on March 23, 2002, 07:20:11 PM
More than a troll? Who could have guessed it?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Griffith on March 23, 2002, 07:58:58 PM
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More than a troll? Who could have guessed it?

Ah, bitter victory, isn’t it great? ;D

But, in the defense of those that supported the lone Troll theory (a little JFK humor), I myself couldn’t tell if you meant more Trolls like this one, as in a species (good idea, and correct as it turned out), or if you were implying there was another type of troll altogether, a really Elf-men like idea (the good and bad troll thing was the confusing part). Oh yeah, and were jerks. Now that that’s settled, when can I expect to see this chapter Puells?

I’m not nagging, simply asking. ^_^

-Griffith

P.S. Do you mind me calling you Puells?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: puella on March 23, 2002, 09:35:51 PM
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Now that that’s settled, when can I expect to see this chapter Puells?

I’m not nagging, simply asking. ^_^

P.S. Do you mind me calling you Puells?

not at all, Gurifisu(I always want to call you like this) ;D
I think you've been busy planning to slaughter all of us.
198 will be here 4-7days after as long as you leave me alive. :P
it's different up to shipping time.

Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 23, 2002, 09:50:03 PM
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(http://myhome.dreamx.net/miendam/kuripuck3.JPG)
hi, my name is Phuck I mean Puck...


LMAO!!!!!

Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 24, 2002, 08:38:30 AM
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More than a troll? Who could have guessed it?

V is for Victory. Buy war bonds where you work or bank.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Uriel on March 24, 2002, 08:46:17 AM
One question, where are the scans for this, I tried that site, but it's all Japanese, and it won't download the stuff to convert it to Enlgish.. unless I am doing it wrong :-/
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Ger24 on March 24, 2002, 09:04:35 AM
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One question, where are the scans for this, I tried that site, but it's all Japanese, and it won't download the stuff to convert it to Enlgish.. unless I am doing it wrong :-/


The scans are not up yet and I believe that website is in Italian.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Marcus on March 24, 2002, 10:22:00 AM
Wow.. this is going to sound rather ignorant but which website? The one Griffith posts the pics from or somewhere else?  ;D
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 24, 2002, 11:07:14 AM
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One question, where are the scans for this, I tried that site, but it's all Japanese, and it won't download the stuff to convert it to Enlgish.. unless I am doing it wrong :-/

Theyre never posted on the Italian page, and regardless, theyre not up yet. Theyll be here around (hopefully) monday-wednesday if everything goes normally.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: puella on March 24, 2002, 06:21:54 PM
let's see.
198 came out on 22. overseas shipping takes up 3-7days.(if there's no problem)
So we are gonna see the chapter "Thursday-Sunday".
this is the quickest way we have for now.

*** and here's my request for you all.
don't cut off the url, please. this is very dangerous for all of us, you know. we have Korean berserk publisher in my country.
they issue berserk in a certain comic magazine biweekly, which is 3-4chapters later than in Japan.
A couple of weeks ago,I found some careless person posted my URL on another berserk board. it shocked me a lot.
That's why I removed my URL so early.
I'll keep going like that for all of us.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 24, 2002, 07:27:51 PM
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let's see.
198 came out on 22. overseas shipping takes up 3-7days.(if there's no problem)
So we are gonna see the chapter "Thursday-Sunday".
this is the quickest way we have for now.

Oh! Sorry, I didnt mean to rush the "release date", its just that previous chapters have been put out extremely early (mon-tues) My bad!!  :'(
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*** and here's my request for you all.
don't cut off the url, please. this is very dangerous for all of us, you know. we have Korean berserk publisher in my country.
they issue berserk in a certain comic magazine biweekly, which is 3-4chapters later than in Japan.
A couple of weeks ago,I found some careless person posted my URL on another berserk board. it shocked me a lot.
That's why I removed my URL so early.
I'll keep going like that for all of us.

Hehe well whoever did that wasn't thinking. I think most of us know how things are  ::) hopefully.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: MarkedSwordsman on March 24, 2002, 07:51:04 PM
Darn, I wanted to see Guts open up a can or two.  Its been a while.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: puella on March 25, 2002, 12:57:58 AM
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(http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198_file/a47.jpg)
Poopsie shows off some of that awesome witchcraft! Impressive, no?
Meanwhile, Isidro assumes the position. ;)

(http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198_file/a49.jpg)
Though only her second appearance in the series, Poopsie already has major "star power!"
HAR! HAR! HAR! :D

...oh God.

(http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198_file/a50.jpg)
Don't look into those eyes Isidro, she’s magically babe-licious!

http://digilander.iol.it/berserkworld/spoiler/Cap_198.htm

Geez, I assumed that Isidro would come on to the witch long ago, or that they'd "hook up" as they say. But Miura already has Kid-Ro grabbing her breasts, during their first encounter no less.  We all know which land of paradise Miura has on his mind. :)

-Griffith
WoW~ you don't know how happy I am with such a charismatic female character, Schierke!
I'm fed up with most of female characters' worn-out roles: screaming like hell, sobbing like a crying baby, stripping off and being attacked.
At least it doesn't seem to me that Schierke will join those FOUR types! 8)
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 25, 2002, 09:47:46 AM
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WoW~ you don't know how happy I am with such a charismatic female character, Schierke!
I'm fed up with most of female characters' worn-out roles: screaming like hell, sobbing like a crying baby, stripping off and being attacked.
At least it doesn't seem to me that Schierke will join those FOUR types! 8)

"She'd consume the Apostles with fireballs from her eyes...and bolts of lightning from her arse"  :D

one of my favorites movie quotes....modified the text and ofcourse needs to be spoken with a scottish accent :P :P :P
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Griffith on March 25, 2002, 10:21:22 AM
Hmmmm…

Don’t you think it’s odd that Miura’s powerful female character is completely entwined with out there concepts of make-believe such as “hocus pocus”? It’s as if Miura sees her as some kind of leprechaun, if you know what I mean; his strong woman can only exist in fairy tales and has no application in the real world. She might as well be raising unruly tykes in a giant boot or taking treats to her sick grandmother through a spooky forest (ahem).  He’s basically saying you should fear meeting a strong women like you should fear meeting the Boogieman or the monster under your bed. Not to mention her powers look ridiculous and cartoonish, further emphasizing the notion that a confident woman with authority over men is akin to a talking dog (Scooby Doo for example). Even her name, Shirieke, is very reminiscent of the word shriek; a shrill, often frantic cry.  So how long do you think it will be before she falls helpless to horny monsters and must face the humiliation of needing rescue by a big strong man?  Frankly, I’m beginning to suspect her only true relevance in the story is to play Casca to Isidro’s Guts.

Yep, a mixed message of female strength and superiority at best, I’d say. ;D

-Griffith
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 25, 2002, 12:00:11 PM
I cant WAIT for the replies to that one Griff.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: roberto999 on March 25, 2002, 12:36:12 PM
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At least it doesn't seem to me that Schierke will join those FOUR types! 8)

Now you have given away everything:Why didn't you write also FANTASTIC while you were at it? ;D
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Fletch on March 25, 2002, 12:57:22 PM
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Don’t you think it’s odd that Miura’s powerful female character is completely entwined with out there concepts of make-believe such as “hocus pocus”? It’s as if Miura sees her as some kind of leprechaun, if you know what I mean; his strong woman can only exist in fairy tales and has no application in the real world. She might as well be raising unruly tykes in a giant boot or taking treats to her sick grandmother through a spooky forest (ahem).  He’s basically saying you should fear meeting a strong women like you should fear meeting the Boogieman or the monster under your bed. Not to mention her powers look ridiculous and cartoonish, further emphasizing the notion that a confident woman with authority over men is akin to a talking dog (Scooby Doo for example). Even her name, Shirieke, is very reminiscent of the word shriek; a shrill, often frantic cry.  So how long do you think it will be before she falls helpless to horny monsters and must face the humiliation of needing rescue by a big strong man?  Frankly, I’m beginning to suspect her only true relevance in the story is to play Casca to Isidro’s Guts.

Yep, a mixed message of female strength and superiority at best, I’d say.


i've been laughing now for about 5 minutes.
p.s.- i thoroughly agree with the mixed messages of female strength in berserk. on the one hand, you have a member of the godhand, the most influential supernatural entities in berserk other than Idea, & the occasional casca type who're enormously powerful, but on the other, the only consistently powerful ones (slann, roshinu, etc.) are all fantasy characters. extremely good point, & quite perceptive.
as for the demon rape speculation, i've got 5 dollars on the beast of shadows raping farnese & schierke within 10 chapters
p.p.s. on second thought, though, there's always griffith (not the bbs poster, but the reborn godhand one), & she's always been quite a strong female character...
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 25, 2002, 01:09:26 PM
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p.p.s. on second thought, though, there's always griffith (not the bbs poster, but the reborn godhand one), & she's always been quite a strong female character...

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/forfletch/04a.jpg)

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/forfletch/04b.jpg)

(http://www.skullknight.net/images/forfletch/04c.jpg)
Please, this is really old territory...
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 25, 2002, 01:16:47 PM
:o :o :o Whoa  :o :o :o

I never saw that one! okay okay....he does not appear to be a gal, but remember Miura 'can' change all that.....hehe
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: CnC on March 25, 2002, 03:04:50 PM
while i agree the introduction of a young girl witch is cartoonish, egads man... don't use Scooby Doo as an example! thats just wrong!

...annoying talking dog...
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on March 25, 2002, 03:19:28 PM
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while i agree the introduction of a young girl witch is cartoonish, egads man... don't use Scooby Doo as an example! thats just wrong!

...annoying talking dog...


HEEHEEHEEHEE

SCOOBY DOOBY DOOOOOOO!!!!!
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Frogacuda on March 25, 2002, 07:01:49 PM
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WoW~ you don't know how happy I am with such a charismatic female character, Schierke!
I'm fed up with most of female characters' worn-out roles: screaming like hell, sobbing like a crying baby, stripping off and being attacked.
At least it doesn't seem to me that Schierke will join those FOUR types! 8)


You know, Berserk doesn't really have alot of role models period. I never thought of it as sexist, it just tends to show the darker side of humanity. In the same way that the women are often weak and helpless, the men are portrayed as horny violent drunkards. Even Guts has his dark side. Berserk's not about showing the brighter side of things. It really revolves around having man as a fundamentally wicked race.

And at least it portrays rape as a great and serious crime which is deeply traumatic to the victims. Alot of manga (and almost all hentai) tends to promote the idea that women actually enjoy being raped; that they get off on it, but just won't admit it. Berserk at least takes it seriously, it's just a really dark series.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 25, 2002, 07:17:48 PM
This is a great post, and I agree with most of it. But while I was reading it, something about it just didnt sit right with me.
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You know, Berserk doesn't really have alot of role models period. I never thought of it as sexist, it just tends to show the darker side of humanity. In the same way that the women are often weak and helpless, the men are portrayed as horny violent drunkards. Even Guts has his dark side. Berserk's not about showing the brighter side of things. It really revolves around having man as a fundamentally wicked race

We all acknowledge that Berserk is a "dark" series. This much is fairly obvious, but what I think Frogacuda fails to point out is that Berserk is about the struggle against the dark nature of humanity. Its not enough for Berserk simply to portray the "shittyness" of the world.

And in the role model department, Guts' struggle to remain true to both his woman and his own form of justice is one role model for me. Another one, and a serious impact on my own personal life is Griffith's character. Not that I intend to sacrifice my friends, but Griffith represents the ultimate form of one who lets no distractions enter his view. He is the product of his chosen lifestyle, where he is forced to succeed in anything, above everything. If nothing at all, Griffith's character lets us see the folly of such a choice.

There, thats all I wanted to put in. Otherwise, really good assertion.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Frogacuda on March 25, 2002, 07:49:37 PM
Agreed. That's why I said "even Guts has is dark side." Guts is something of a role model but he is far from perfect. I singled him out there because he is the possible exception, but felt inclined to mention that he is not free from major flaws either.

As for Griffith, I think Berserk actually tries to make a sort of Taoist statement in it's villainization of Griffith. While he is a sympathetic character, I think Miura is trying to speak against his kind of ambition (something that Guts shares, and is a major part of his afformentioned dark side).
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Fletch on March 25, 2002, 09:54:18 PM
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Please, this is really old territory...

sorry, i know, bad joke. couldn't resist the pun. i'm a very punny, if not terribly funny, guy.
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We all acknowledge that Berserk is a "dark" series. This much is fairly obvious, but what I think Frogacuda fails to point out is that Berserk is about the struggle against the dark nature of humanity. Its not enough for Berserk simply to portray the "shittyness" of the world.

actually, i don't know if calling berserk "dark" is strictly accurate. i'd say the dark backdrop of the berserk universe is used primarily to highlight some basic good qualities by contrast.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Fishbomb on March 26, 2002, 07:27:24 AM
*waiting in anticipation dance*
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: DFInc on March 26, 2002, 04:56:55 PM
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Hmmmm…

Don’t you think it’s odd that Miura’s powerful female character is completely entwined with out there concepts of make-believe such as “hocus pocus”? It’s as if Miura sees her as some kind of leprechaun, if you know what I mean; his strong woman can only exist in fairy tales and has no application in the real world. She might as well be raising unruly tykes in a giant boot or taking treats to her sick grandmother through a spooky forest (ahem).  He’s basically saying you should fear meeting a strong women like you should fear meeting the Boogieman or the monster under your bed. Not to mention her powers look ridiculous and cartoonish, further emphasizing the notion that a confident woman with authority over men is akin to a talking dog (Scooby Doo for example). Even her name, Shirieke, is very reminiscent of the word shriek; a shrill, often frantic cry.  So how long do you think it will be before she falls helpless to horny monsters and must face the humiliation of needing rescue by a big strong man?  Frankly, I’m beginning to suspect her only true relevance in the story is to play Casca to Isidro’s Guts.

Yep, a mixed message of female strength and superiority at best, I’d say. ;D

-Griffith




hehe, i think she's gonna be like Guts, while Isidro plays Casca!!   ;D
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on March 26, 2002, 05:20:52 PM
hmm... Isidro being Poopsie's bitch?

seems possible....
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: *Gyom* on March 27, 2002, 09:15:30 AM
unless she uses magick all day long, i dont see that going to happen; i'd rather think of a complementary bahaviours without levels
ooh ( have a thought rihgt now ) : what if guts is controlled by beast desire to rape the little b... uhh ... witch ?^^
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: eintrigga on March 28, 2002, 10:19:47 PM
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hehe, i think she's gonna be like Guts, while Isidro plays Casca!!   ;D


and guts is going to be the new griffith, Farnese is the new Casca, and serpico is the old guts. oh i can see it now: guts sacrificing his new friends and companions
;D

Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Marcus on March 28, 2002, 11:41:29 PM
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and guts is going to be the new griffith, Farnese is the new Casca, and serpico is the old guts. oh i can see it now: guts sacrificing his new friends and companions
;D


For what?  ::)
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Cronus on March 29, 2002, 07:40:21 AM
Hail to the witch indeed, puella.
Many thanks!

Kinda nice to see Schierke in action finally, but overall it didn't seem much else was accomplished.  She can of course tell there's something 'up' with Guts and Casca.
Hopefully it was just a taste of what she can do.

I may actually have some time to translate this today, but don't get your hopes up  ;D

Thank you again, puella!
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 29, 2002, 08:13:58 AM
Many thanks!!

It was cool to see her bust open a magical can of whoopass!

p.s. hey Puells, its okey dokey.....I think :D
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Fletch on March 29, 2002, 09:14:43 AM
thanks puella, i have a new respect for witch girl now. at least she's brave, even if some of her powers are a tad goofy. plus, she did have a couple of nice looking powers, like the "straw attack" that sent all the trolls running.
cool chapter. hope miura keeps this whole "advancing of the main story arc" thing going. the only problem i have of late is all these "random encounter" type battles that have nothing to do with anything. sure, it's nice to see that the other characters are advancing in skills, and its good to see what everybody can do, but sheesh! i want more plot-oriented battles rather than random zombies, skeletons, lesser demons, ghosts, ghouls, snowman beasts, cactuars, lemmings of doom, etc.! ah well, at least they're almost to elfville, where, presumably, something of greater importance will happen. i hope.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 29, 2002, 09:42:11 AM
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 hope miura keeps this whole "advancing of the main story arc" thing going. the only problem i have of late is all these "random encounter" type battles that have nothing to do with anything. sure, it's nice to see that the other characters are advancing in skills, and its good to see what everybody can do, but sheesh! i want more plot-oriented battles rather than random zombies, skeletons, lesser demons, ghosts, ghouls, snowman beasts, cactuars, lemmings of doom, etc.


Yup I sorta feel the same way. I feel like saying..."Lets get on with it already!!" Oh hey, I did just say it ;)

The whole randon fights are ok and they develop character for our heroes! There is one volume that didnt make sense to me. The whole Roshinu sequence, what the hell did that have to do with the story anyhow?  
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Marcus on March 29, 2002, 10:11:08 AM
Yep, Hail to the Witch!! I thought Isidro was going to do some damage tho, guess not  :-X
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Olivier Hague on March 29, 2002, 10:27:47 AM
Miura knows his stuff...

"Page 9"
Yod-He-Vau-He
Adonai Tzabaoth
Eheieh
Agla

Well, that's indeed how you perform the banishing of the pentagram. ^^;
("Yod-He-Vau-He" is better known as "YHVH", ie "Yahweh", by the way)

And on "page 12", Schierke talks about "the flow of the od". The "od" is also called the "odic force" or the "odyllic force", ie the "vital fluid" said to be flowing through all living beings.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Wereallmad on March 29, 2002, 12:02:03 PM
Thank you puella!
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Marcus on March 29, 2002, 12:05:06 PM
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And on "page 12", Schierke talks about "the flow of the od". The "od" is also called the "odic force" or the "odyllic force", ie the "vital fluid" said to be flowing through all living beings.


Sounds like the Force from Star Wars ^^;;
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Griffith on March 29, 2002, 12:20:15 PM
Mini-Rant: Geez, doesn’t anybody want to see a story progress anymore? “THE END!? THE END!?” Hush.

This chapter was cool, my favorite pic was Schierke’s haunting eyes at the end (despite the badass two-page spread of the fleeing trolls).

-Griffith

P.S. Thank Puells, and hail the witch.

P.P.S. Isidro's got a girlfriend!!! ;D
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 29, 2002, 12:50:52 PM
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The whole Roshinu sequence, what the hell did that have to do with the story anyhow?  

Too bad thats a lot of people's favorite story arc (me,  cronus, and even skully included). It was a great idea on Miura's part. For one, it got the reader to see Guts from am alternate perspective, showing us just how crazy he had become. And second, it was our first (and only, so far) really in depth character study of an apostle.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 29, 2002, 01:32:36 PM
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For one, it got the reader to see Guts from am alternate perspective, showing us just how crazy he had become.

ummmm....I though we already knew how insane in the membrane he was :D

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And second, it was our first (and only, so far) really in depth character study of an apostle.

Good point. But who cares about that particular apostle. I wanna see more about Zodd or the Skullknight. Imagine a whole volume dedicated to either one of these two!
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 29, 2002, 01:56:10 PM
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ummmm....I though we already knew how insane in the membrane he was :D

Hey thats pretty funny!
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Good point. But who cares about that particular apostle. I wanna see more about Zodd or the Skullknight. Imagine a whole volume dedicated to either one of these two!

Well maybe YOU dont care about her, but unfortunately, there are other fans that care about her. Miura will get to his main characters. And honestly, what the hell would an entire volume of Zodd or SK be doing in the middle of the series? Like I said, he'll get to them.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Ger24 on March 29, 2002, 02:00:53 PM
Great Chapter!!!!! Really love the two page spreads by Miura, he seems to be getting better every chapter. Now, after seeing so many trolls I was thinking that maybe they were created by an apostle or they could just be random creatures and nothing special.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Olivier Hague on March 29, 2002, 02:24:24 PM
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Now, after seeing so many trolls I was thinking that maybe they were created by an apostle or they could just be random creatures and nothing special.

If they aren't "Shito Modoki" ("semi-Apostles") created by some _true_ Apostle, I don't know what they are...
They could be something "new", as the Berserk world is "changing"and is becoming more of a heroic-fantasy world because of Griffith's return...
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vermillion on March 29, 2002, 03:08:22 PM
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Miura will get to his main characters.


Yeah i guess, but not soon enough!  Dammit!
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: roberto999 on March 29, 2002, 03:09:20 PM
In the previous chapter Miura did show the mark of Casca bleeding while the first troll approached, and so far we have seen the mark react that way only to godhands, apostles, spirits, and possessed. Since Miura did take great care to show us that particular is no doubt important.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Fletch on March 30, 2002, 12:20:22 PM
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In the previous chapter Miura did show the mark of Casca bleeding while the first troll approached, and so far we have seen the mark react that way only to godhands, apostles, spirits, and possessed. Since Miura did take great care to show us that particular is no doubt important.


in otherwords, they react to "evil" for lack of a better term. they really might just be another race, seperate from apostles, kinda like faeries, but since they're (presumably) bad, it makes the brand react. i think they even say something about the brand reacting to "evil" when Guts fights femto in volume 3, don't they?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Cronus on March 30, 2002, 02:26:46 PM
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in otherwords, they react to "evil" for lack of a better term. they really might just be another race, seperate from apostles, kinda like faeries, but since they're (presumably) bad, it makes the brand react. i think they even say something about the brand reacting to "evil" when Guts fights femto in volume 3, don't they?


Without Volume 3 to refer to at the moment, I would say that the translation as 'evil' is off.  'ma' has many connotations and one of them is indeed 'evil.'  However knowing what we know now about the hierarchy of GH, Idea, etc, the meaning clearly is 'magic' or 'sorcery.'  Since apostles are essentially no longer human and have crazy powers presumably by the will of the God Hand (beings of 'magic') that is what makes the brand react, not whether they're more of a bastard than the others :)
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: MarkedSwordsman on March 30, 2002, 03:42:36 PM
Puck might have a new girlfriend, too. :)
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on March 30, 2002, 08:53:17 PM
...and no means of procreating :-/
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: roberto999 on March 31, 2002, 12:31:28 AM
What I wanted to point out was that the trolls could be controlled by someone (an apostle ?) and that someone did have a purpose for the attack. And that purpose was probably Casca, and Casca alone, since, with so many of them, it would be easy for them to attack Guts also. And don't tell me that they were afraid, because to give them their due, none of the members of the "Evil Kindom" was never afraid of Guts. True, Dragonslayer could cut them to pieces but they attacked neverthless.

Happy  Easter to you all !
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on March 31, 2002, 01:38:34 AM
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What I wanted to point out was that the trolls could be controlled by someone (an apostle ?) and that someone did have a purpose for the attack. And that purpose was probably Casca, and Casca alone, since, with so many of them, it would be easy for them to attack Guts also. And don't tell me that they were afraid, because to give them their due, none of the members of the "Evil Kindom" was never afraid of Guts. True, Dragonslayer could cut them to pieces but they attacked neverthless.


Wow. I really need to start paying more attention. I kinda gave up analyzing Berserk a few volumes ago, glad to see other people do the work for me!  ;D Excellent assertion Roberto!
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: White Hawk on March 31, 2002, 04:03:27 AM
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Miura knows his stuff...

"Page 9"
Yod-He-Vau-He
Adonai Tzabaoth
Eheieh
Agla

Well, that's indeed how you perform the banishing of the pentagram. ^^;
("Yod-He-Vau-He" is better known as "YHVH", ie "Yahweh", by the way)


Is that the lesser banishing? I think so, but I doubt it be enough for anything but peace for one self.
The japanase authors are very influenced by the Kabala, btw...Has anyone noticed Sydney Losstarot and the rituals in Vagrant Story?
On the other side of news,
just finished watching X Tv episode 16...very kewl.
I read Sanctuary, excellent stuff Ikegami, and now on Strain.
It's Easter In The Tombs.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Negative_Earth on March 31, 2002, 02:57:46 PM
hm.  I think that we're supposed to have drawn some parallels between the old Band of the Hawk and Guts' new band of hooligans.

bear with me in my pseudologic:
- Guts:Farnese:Serpico::Griffith:Casca:Guts

here's a few i'm less confident with
- Guts:Isidro::Gambino:Guts (minus the abuse and prostitution).
- Guts:Millenium Falcon Arc::Witch Girl:this arc

Perhaps the new group will mirror the different stages in guts' life? (horrible childhood, Hawks, Soloing out of revenge, new band)?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: CnC on April 01, 2002, 09:01:49 AM
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Too bad thats a lot of people's favorite story arc (me,  cronus, and even skully included).


and mine.  a self contained story with such raw emotion and great art to convey it... what else can you ask for?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 01, 2002, 12:23:45 PM
plenty o' boobies, but Miura's assured us that satisfaction. ;D
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: The_Stick on April 01, 2002, 02:55:36 PM
Thank you Puella!  ;D  
Btw, how long do you usually keep the chapters up on your site?  

Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: puella on April 01, 2002, 04:03:56 PM
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Btw, how long do you usually keep the chapters up on your site?  


good question, 3-4days after posting it.
I only have 10MB free internet- account. :'(
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: BOB on April 03, 2002, 05:37:22 AM
shit i missed it cos right now i can only go online at work  :'(
and i wasn't working during the easter days. *crying silently*
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: CnC on April 03, 2002, 12:32:48 PM
oh yea... thanks puella, in case you didn't hear it enough
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on April 03, 2002, 06:41:40 PM
so tahts what Isidro grabs, thanks Puella.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: BOB on April 03, 2002, 10:17:35 PM
muchas gracias amorossa te quiero fer that

hope i got that right
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: BOB on April 03, 2002, 11:37:29 PM
great chapter as the whole schierke appearance consists more of that classical witchery and not this modern kame hame ha fireball shit that's making series like Bastard so ridiculous.

maybe she has some obscure weeds in her pocket that can actually drive away the evil spirits inside of Casca's mind cos apart from the last time casca met Griffith (and guts fought with Zodd, one of my favourite chapters) she is a major annoyance lately making me wish that guts had stayed possessed a little longer  ;D.

No serious this could at last lead to some serious character development with Casca Griffith and guts.
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: blah on April 08, 2002, 06:25:30 AM
dammit i missed it...
does anyone have it still posted?
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: blah on April 12, 2002, 07:05:10 PM
:'(
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: puella on April 12, 2002, 09:53:38 PM
check your IM box now
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Marcus on April 12, 2002, 11:16:56 PM
Puella, the Late Berserk's Fan's Hero!!  ;D I'm pretty sure everyone here is very grateful to you puella! ;)
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: blah on April 13, 2002, 10:07:23 PM
thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou

:)

id say it more, but i think i might get banned  :P
Title: Re: Episode 198
Post by: Walter on April 13, 2002, 11:19:56 PM
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thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou

:)

id say it more, but i think i might get banned  :P

Yeah its a real Police State here at Skullknight.net's BBS...  :-X