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Title: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Griffith on December 22, 2001, 11:53:41 PM
Below is the God Hand Guide Beta, I’d say 35 - 40% complete (Unless I decide to do every Apostle EVER seen in the series, but for now I’ll just try to get the important ones).  Basically, just  look for mistakes (preferably information wise, though this thing does light up like a Christmas tree in a spellcheck program), tell me what you like about this format, what you don’t like about it, anything you feel is missing or any other ideas you have so I can make the rest that much better.

Sections to be added: III. GOD HAND (Duh), IV. MISCELLANEOUS (The Black Swordsman (he’s branded, close enough), Skull Knight (hopefully we’ll know more about him by then), and Griffith)

Thank you,

-Griffith

P.S. See if you can guess who I’m really talking about in the last line of the Count’s profile. ;D

URL: http://www.geocities.com/berserk_millenium_falcon/God_Hand.html
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on December 23, 2001, 12:39:12 AM
Griff, you kick some ass ya know that?
i couldnt see anything wrong with it just by skimming through it. sweet job though! keep up the great work!
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Walter on December 23, 2001, 07:24:01 AM
Fuqin A Griff, thats awesome! Just keep goin ya know?  :)

One thing though, the Snake Baron was seen in the Eclipse. I dont have the manga handy at the moment but I remember he was in the middle of volume 13. I know its just a discrepancy since he doesnt make himself distinctly seen in it, but still...

Whatever happened to your Wild section? Didnt you post it on the board a while back?

Damned fine start though!
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Griffith on December 23, 2001, 01:30:35 PM
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Griff, you kick some ass ya know that?
i couldnt see anything wrong with it just by skimming through it. sweet job though! keep up the great work!

Thanks Ranemaka!
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Fuqin A Griff, thats awesome! Just keep goin ya know?  :)

Yeah, I know.  I should have had this thing done months ago, but I’m a lazy, lazy man. ;D
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One thing though, the Snake Baron was seen in the Eclipse. I dont have the manga handy at the moment but I remember he was in the middle of volume 13.

It’s already listed under his volume appearances.  I even counted all the times Guts even thought of Zodd (But I could have EASILY missed one, let me know people).
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Whatever happened to your Wild section? Didnt you post it on the board a while back?

It’s there, man. :-/

-Griffith

P.S. Thanks for the input and…how the Hell did you miss the Wild section? :)
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: puella on December 23, 2001, 07:21:21 PM

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One thing though, the Snake Baron was seen in the Eclipse. I dont have the manga handy at the moment but I remember he was in the middle of volume 13. I know its just a discrepancy since he doesnt make himself distinctly seen in it, but still...


Well, I didn't recognize until you said on FAQ.
but I also think it's just a similar thing, not that Snake baron.

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Below is the God Hand Guide Beta, I’d say 35 - 40% complete

:o :o :o :-* :-* :-*
Wow~ this is really really what I've wanted!!
Your great work could be a good Christmas present for us.
thank you, Griffith.
but when can we get your next present?
New year's day or Thanks Giving day? ;D
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on December 23, 2001, 07:32:29 PM

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but when can we get your next present?
New year's day or Thanks Giving day? ;D


do you realize how far off the next Thanksgiving day is??
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Griffith on December 24, 2001, 06:22:54 PM
Now that’s a schedule I could stick to. ;D

-Griffith
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Vampire_Hunter_Bob on December 26, 2001, 04:47:36 PM
what was i doing again umm i'll guess ...good job Griff? *walks away*
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Rod_Su on January 10, 2002, 11:13:04 PM

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Below is the God Hand Guide Beta, I’d say 35 - 40% complete (Unless I decide to do every Apostle EVER seen in the series, but for now I’ll just try to get the important ones).  Basically, just  look for mistakes (preferably information wise, though this thing does light up like a Christmas tree in a spellcheck program), tell me what you like about this format, what you don’t like about it, anything you feel is missing or any other ideas you have so I can make the rest that much better.

Sections to be added: III. GOD HAND (Duh), IV. MISCELLANEOUS (The Black Swordsman (he’s branded, close enough), Skull Knight (hopefully we’ll know more about him by then), and Griffith)

Thank you,

-Griffith

P.S. See if you can guess who I’m really talking about in the last line of the Count’s profile. ;D

URL: http://www.geocities.com/berserk_millenium_falcon/God_Hand.html


In the Count section, you should add that the Count offered a piece of flesh to one of his severly wounded (by Guts) officer, and elevated the knight to a demi-apostle.
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Griffith on January 11, 2002, 02:13:16 AM
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In the Count section, you should add that the Count offered a piece of flesh to one of his severly wounded (by Guts) officer, and elevated the knight to a demi-apostle.

It’s there, check under ‘SPAWN:’ at the top of his entry. Zondark is also getting his own section by the way (cause he rules!).

Also, here are some classification ideas,

Apostle-Spawn:  a creature made in the image of it’s creator, examples include; Roshinu’s Children, the Mandragora and Zondark (the worm specifically).  (I’m thibking of making this only large groups, basically just Roshinu’s Children and the Mandragora then, meaning Zondark would be a Demi-Apostle instead)

Demi-Apostles:  Other weak ass things created by Apostles that Guts can kill with his eyes closed (like Roshinu’s forest guardians)

Pseudo-Apostles: The Egg-Apostle’s creations, I think they are special. :)

God Hands: Duh!

Reborn God Hands: You know who, and possibility Skull Knight.

Miscellaneous: Skull Knight until further notice, and everyone’s favorite inner Beast.

Unknown: As in, it’s unknown what the Hell Miura was thinking, this will probably include the Chicken Apostle and the “Phallic Crew” as I call them (I know what Miura was thinking in this case, and that makes it all the more worse).

Well? Should I simplify it (probably), make it more complex(heh heh), or is it fine as is?

-Griffith

P.S. I’m also thinking of putting Zodd in a category all his own, “Arch-Apostle”.  I might even make something for Griffith’s top guys like Granbeld, my goal is basically to make this as ridiculously complicated as is possible, the term "Apostle" alone should become a vague generalization. ;D
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Olivier Hague on January 11, 2002, 09:28:13 AM
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Apostle-Spawn:  a creature made in the image of it’s creator, examples include; Roshinu’s Children, the Mandragora and Zondark (the worm specifically).  (I’m thibking of making this only large groups, basically just Roshinu’s Children and the Mandragora then, meaning Zondark would be a Demi-Apostle instead)

Demi-Apostles:  Other weak ass things created by Apostles that Guts can kill with his eyes closed (like Roshinu’s forest guardians)

Pseudo-Apostles: The Egg-Apostle’s creations, I think they are special. :)

I think they're all the same kind of creature, myself... It's just that some are far stronger than other, but it's the same among Apostles, isn't it?
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my goal is basically to make this as ridiculously complicated as is possible, the term "Apostle" alone should become a vague generalization. ;D

Oh. ^_^;
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Griffith on January 11, 2002, 03:38:14 PM
Yeah, I know what you mean, but where I run into trouble is when I try to think of one of Roshinu’s children or an individual Mandragora sapling as a “Demi-Apostle”, because they are dependant on their master for survival, that’s where I see the biggest difference between them and say, the Beetle and the Mantis guy.  But, they are technically all Apostle-Spawn, and that may be the most accurate anybody can be about them.

Also, about the Egg-Apostle, just the fact that he’s so unique, that he IS a Beherit, makes his creations different in my eyes, as if he creates totally original Apostles without a ceremony (why I decided to call them Psuedo-Apostles).  After all, look at how they change, they don’t become like him, but become something representative of themselves.  They also don’t serve him at all, I don’t know…Olivier, could you tell me what the Egg-Apostle himself says about his power?

Oh, and thanks for the advice.

-Griffith

P.S. I'm leaning towards what Olivier said and just jumbling them alltogether as "Apostle-Spawn", too many unique situations, I'll just cover it in the desription of each Apostle.  But maybe I’ll combine that simple system  and the complicated system (for a simply complicated system):

Roshinu's Children:
CLASS: Apostle-Spawn (Apostle-Minion)

Stupid Mantis Guy
CLASS: Apostle-Spawn (Demi-Apostle)

Mozgus
CLASS: Apostle-Spawn (Psuedo-Apostle)

Wild
CLASS: Apostle (That’s fucking it!)
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Kenoh-Sama on January 15, 2002, 02:25:10 PM
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Yeah, I know what you mean, but where I run into trouble is when I try to think of one of Roshinu’s children or an individual Mandragora sapling as a “Demi-Apostle”, because they are dependant on their master for survival, that’s where I see the biggest difference between them and say, the Beetle and the Mantis guy.  But, they are technically all Apostle-Spawn, and that may be the most accurate anybody can be about them.

Also, about the Egg-Apostle, just the fact that he’s so unique, that he IS a Beherit, makes his creations different in my eyes, as if he creates totally original Apostles without a ceremony (why I decided to call them Psuedo-Apostles).  After all, look at how they change, they don’t become like him, but become something representative of themselves.  They also don’t serve him at all, I don’t know…Olivier, could you tell me what the Egg-Apostle himself says about his power?

Oh, and thanks for the advice.

-Griffith

P.S. I'm leaning towards what Olivier said and just jumbling them alltogether as "Apostle-Spawn", too many unique situations, I'll just cover it in the desription of each Apostle.  But maybe I’ll combine that simple system  and the complicated system (for a simply complicated system):

Roshinu's Children:
CLASS: Apostle-Spawn (Apostle-Minion)

Stupid Mantis Guy
CLASS: Apostle-Spawn (Demi-Apostle)

Mozgus
CLASS: Apostle-Spawn (Psuedo-Apostle)

Wild
CLASS: Apostle (That’s fucking it!)


I think it would work best if you simplified it.

Wild: Apostle

Beherit Apostle: Apostle
* Anything created by him is a Spawn -Apostle
  1) Mozgus
  2) Mozgus' followers
  3) Pagan Goat Spawn Apostle

Snake Baron: Apostle

The Count: Apostle

Roshinu: Apostle
*Her spawn should just be considered "Drones"

Anyone who chose to be an apostle and made a sacrifice (themselves or other people) should be considered an apostle. Nothing else.  




Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Graywords on April 08, 2002, 05:44:56 AM
Love the guide. =D

One note:

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Wild
Physical Description:
-Inside the chest-mouth is a long, thorny, tentacle-like tongue with serrated stinger at the end.


That's not a tongue.   ::)

Unless they censored the word "tongue" when Wild screams about it being cut off.  *grins*
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Walter on April 08, 2002, 08:27:59 AM
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Love the guide. =D
That's not a tongue.   ::)

Unless they censored the word "tongue" when Wild screams about it being cut off.  *grins*

Well its a tongue/penis, but in my opinion its still a tongue.
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Graywords on April 26, 2002, 02:40:44 AM
(http://lonestar.texas.net/~ansel/berserk/apenis.jpg)
Translation:
OW MY FRIGGIN' ¢Ø¢|<!!!!!

;)
Title: [b][/b]Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Marcus on April 26, 2002, 03:52:56 PM
Great job!! Can't wait for more  ;D

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Zodd punches a hole in the ceiling and takes on his winged form, he prophesies Guts fate with Griffith, an avoidable death, and then flies away.


Noticed this typo, Zodd prophesied an unavoidable death.
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Uriel on May 03, 2002, 12:08:00 PM
*starts work in his house for Griffith's shrine*
Thanx man, I feel enlightened by your wisdom ;D
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: puella on July 05, 2002, 08:11:25 AM
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Wow~ this is really really what I've wanted!!
Your great work could be a good Christmas present for us.
thank you, Griffith.
but when can we get your next present?
New year's day or Thanks Giving day? ;D


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Now that’s a schedule I could stick to. ;D

-Griffith

Gurihisu, are you really really gonna keep your word above? ;D
I hope to see the glossary about minor apostles like goat, or insect apostles before I turn 40!
just 60-65% more please! then it makes 100%! 8)

Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Griffith on July 08, 2002, 09:28:45 PM
Puells, I vow that if I don’t complete the guide by January 1st 2003 I will not only pay for your subscription to Young Animal, but I will send you enough to buy the expedited subscription as long as Berserk is published in it.

-Griffith
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Walter on May 07, 2003, 06:37:02 AM
Puells, I vow that if I don’t complete the guide by January 1st 2003 I will not only pay for your subscription to Young Animal, but I will send you enough to buy the expedited subscription as long as Berserk is published in it.

-Griffith
Hmmm...
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: UrashimaSenpai on May 07, 2003, 05:06:28 PM
Very nice breakdown!
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: SexyCharlotte on May 08, 2003, 06:34:14 PM
Very nice breakdown!

Why wasn't Roshina mentioned...oh wait that manga was 15 and 16. Sorry.

LG
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: jp on June 04, 2003, 07:13:11 AM
good job! i found it very informative. :)
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Filthy Wretch on June 05, 2003, 09:27:09 PM
are you god?




ALL HAIL GRIFFITH WHO SMOTHERED GOD AND TOOK HIS PLACE
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: deadfuse on September 16, 2003, 11:45:08 AM
Under the glossary, should it be casualty (as you have it) or causality?  I've seen both in the translations, casualty more often, but causality actually makes sense.
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Walter on September 16, 2003, 03:46:05 PM
Under the glossary, should it be casualty (as you have it) or causality?  I've seen both in the translations, casualty more often, but causality actually makes sense.
He means causality, it's a typo.  But considering this project is long-dead, who cares?
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Baldogh on September 23, 2003, 09:50:05 AM
well...................es gibt leute die den ganzen tag nix zu tun ha´m
Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: UrashimaSenpai on September 24, 2003, 04:45:20 PM
well...................es gibt leute die den ganzen tag nix zu tun ha´m

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Title: Re:God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: C. Walken on January 25, 2004, 12:36:08 PM
gj on the guide.

I dug the breakdown of the appostles.. very in-depth.
Title: Re: God Hand Guide Feedback Wanted
Post by: Walter on May 22, 2005, 08:35:59 PM
Revivify!

edit: I meant to say, i want a sequel, Griff. But Im quite drunk, so i forgot  :-*  Anyway, even after the years that have passed, this stands the test of time. Still solid, consistently detailed info.