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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: July 10, 2017, 08:39:19 PM »
I finally sat down and watched season 2. I'd been putting it off forever because i was so disappointed with season one. I'll be honest I went in with probably the lowest expectations I've ever had for anything berserk and.. I actually found myself enjoying it.

Objectively the series was still pretty bad, lots of story cut, sound effects, awkward 3d- but that's all already been covered here. On the other hand I was unreasonably excited to see more parts of the story adapted into a video format. It was like a guilty pleasure that I would never share with any of my friends. I just wish we could finally get an adaption of berserk that I could be proud of and actually be excited to show my non-berserk friends.

My first experience with Berserk was actually the first golden age movie, and at the time I thought it was just some B studio churning out whatever adaption was handed to them. Despite the quality of the movie some of the characters really hooked my interest and I decided to dig into the source material (which may have been the best decision I ever made). Maybe this means I have a soft spot for bad adaptions but without them I never would have started struggling down the path of Berserk.

tl;dr: wish we could finally get an adaption of berserk that I'd be excited to show my non-berserk friends

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: June 21, 2017, 05:42:43 PM »
Well, it's the opposite situation for me, thus why I'm less than thrilled that SotC, after already getting remastered and re-released on PS3, is now getting the remake treatment rather than the oft rumored Demon's Souls remaster/remake. Of course, SotC is older and more in need of a revamp (but then it's already had one), and it's not mutually exclusive either; Sony could still just port DeS or put it on the US version of PS Now like their Japanese counterpart. I feel like it's kind of stuck between that and more profitable options, but with no new Souls games on the horizon and series more popular than ever the time certainly seems ripe.

I think a demon souls remake could definitely make a lot of $. However, another way to see it is SotC doesn't have a real sequel so they can remaster it and sell it at a new game price without making it look real expensive next to the most recent game. The problem is likely with what the developers are working on- team ico hasn't really had a big hit since SotC and from software has been knocking it out of the park with sequals and are now in a position where they want to work on new IPs.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: June 14, 2017, 08:15:57 PM »
so why is Sony re-releasing Shadow of the Colossus yet again but not Demon's Souls? :judo:

Cuz' it fucking owns?

But yeah seriously tho- I'd love to see a Demon Souls re-release/remaster as it is the only souls game I haven't played (got multiple hundreds of hours on the rest  :ubik:).
I will give Praise to the Sun and hope they do this one day.  :sad:

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Shootin' the Breeze / Re: Hello, everyone!
« on: March 30, 2017, 05:40:52 PM »
They're like stripey little noodles! :D

Thank you! :serpico:  I haven't checked out the podcast yet but I definitely will, that sounds really cool! And thank you for the warning, too! I actually didn't know you guys had translations here, that's really neat. Like were they translated by the members and everything?

Indeed, from my understanding user Puella provides professional quality translations for sk.net- big thanks to her!
Her translations can be found here:
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?board=36.0

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Speculation Nation / Re: Skull knight - elf connection?
« on: March 29, 2017, 01:12:31 PM »
just as the Berserk Armor was made by dwarves (a kind of elf).
Definitely didn't know that dwarves were a kind of elf, thanks for the info. I didn't realize that the armor was that closely tied to the elves.

If you're curious about hearing more, we have a 3 part Skull Knight podcast early on in the history of the show that goes into all sorts of theories.
I have actually already listened to those 3! Ever since I found SK.net i've been slowly working my way thru the podcasts, think I'm on #24 atm, great stuff btw. It has been some months since i listened to the 3-part one on SK tho, I'd like to revisit but i still have so many casts to get thru. :ubik:

Yes, Ged said Flora was his "old friend," so we can surmise that she used to live there among the other magic users in Elfhelm. It's possible that's how she met up with Gaiseric, as a young witch who aided in his soul-transference process.
Ah very interesting, I wonder if that's truly when they first met. I always wondered at what point in their lives they first crossed paths.

It will probably not surprise you to learn that we basically formulated this idea the day we learned of the Sovereign of the Flower Storm's existence (over 10 years ago). It is still the leading theory today.

God over 10 years- I'm so far behind the curve. :sad: 10 years ago I hadn't even found berserk yet- better late than never?

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Speculation Nation / Re: Skull knight - elf connection?
« on: March 28, 2017, 11:51:02 PM »
Not sure if you're caught up with the series, but we now know it's a lady. :slan:   So Sovereign of the Flower Storm is now the appropriate title.

Yea Im aware, not sure why i wrote the post like that but i was reading a ton of old posts so maybe it engraved it in my mind that way. I'll go back and change it Xp

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Speculation Nation / Skull knight - elf connection?
« on: March 28, 2017, 08:48:16 PM »
Hi all, I recently saw /u/thekingbobe's post on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/621vv0/s_skeleknight_question/

While I certainly don't think his speculation of SK being the Sovereign of the Flower Storm has any credence it did make me carefully rethink the connections between SK and the elves.
I did a quick search on sk.net and found these  threads:
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=14647.0  (SK is a Half-Elf )
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=14759.0  (Peekaf the elf king)
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=13895 (Skull Knight = The Flower Storm King)

The above threads basically dismiss the possibility of SK being a half-elf or the Sovereign of the Flower Storm. However, I think it is obvious there is some strong connection between the elves and SK.
I believe there has been a few occasions where SK has been likened to an elf. Notably:
From episode 142

Walter also pointed out that SK's emblem happens to be a flower, which while it doesn't prove much may suggest a deeper connection between him and the Sovereign of the Flower Storm.

Do we have any ideas about this connection yet?

Based on the following assumptions:
  • SK is/was Gaeseric
  • Gaeseric was human (no part-elf here!)
  • SK was the former wearer of the berserker armor that "died"
  • SK/Flora had a substantial relationship with SotFS

My first thought was that perhaps that when SK was consumed by the berserker armor the Sovereign of the Flower Storm performed some ritual that transferred his essence into it's current form and in doing so left a distinctly elven aura on him.
This could be another reason that SK seemed so familiar with the SotFS's powers and thus told guts that upon his arrival to Skellig SotFS would be able to help Casca.

So I ask those who are likely more informed than I:
  • Do we have any theories about the relationship between Gaeseric and the elves.
  • Do we have any information about the dwarves that might relate the armor with the elves
  • Do we have anything relating Flora to the elves other than a) she had an elf living with her and b) elfhelm seems to be a haven for magic-users

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Video Games / Re: The Thread of Zelda
« on: March 08, 2017, 03:53:22 PM »
Looks like everyone has been playing the hell out of zelda lol. My switch came in early on monday and i was giddy like a little kid on christmas. Damn this game is fun. Every-time i see one of those curious spots.... Everything else goes out the window.
I also just killed 3 gaurdians in a row. So that was fun.
Also how do i do those spoiler things?

Use the spoiler tag: wrap the text you wanna black out with a [/spoiler] at the end and one without the slash at the beginning.

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Video Games / Re: The Thread of Zelda
« on: March 07, 2017, 08:24:41 PM »

Opening
The game does a good job of easing you in, but I was honestly getting a bit bored of the plateau shortly before they allow you to leave. Then of course the massive world opens up and BOOM, I was playing another 2 hours. I'd still be playing if I didn't have real life stuff to do.


I agree that the plateau "tutorial" was kind of boring by the end but i think it's a better experience than constant frozen screens telling you how to play the game. 5 mins off the plateau and I already forgot that I was ever bored.

Story
Eh... I've admittedly seen only the top layer of it, but it's not really blowing my skirt up. I do appreciate the "doomed world" setup, but the explanation for how it arrived at this state felt poorly conceived. Still, I welcome surprises in this department. It seems to me the meat of this game will come in exploration, discovery and inventive combat -- and honestly, that's A-OK with me.


Zelda has never had the deepest storyline with plot twists and so forth but honestly I've been impressed at their ability to re-imagine the "zelda" story with subtle differences similar to skyward sword. But, to be honest I don't keep coming back to zelda games for the story. Another thing i noticed about BotW is pretty much everyone you can talk to has something useful to say- i suggest talking to everyone you meet in a new area as they might put you on the track to some neat things.

After playing like ~20 hrs or so I can say that I do like how the story starts off feeling totally hollow (seems to fit with Link's amnesia) and you learn more as you find the other races and track down the locations of Zelda's 12 mysterious pictures and start to fill the voids in what happened.

My best death so far is after i upgraded the bombs (they get a bigger blast radius) I was trying to blow up a tree to get all the apples out (yes im too lazy to climb up) I blasted myself off of a ~200ft cliff and died as i bounced down the bluffs.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: March 06, 2017, 07:01:37 PM »
20 hours into Breath of the Wild, and I think I'm finally at the first dungeon. The easiest thing to do in this game is to get sidetracked. Oh wait no. The easiest thing to do is to die.

Man what a game, gonna spoiler tag this just in case but I don't plan on giving anything away outside the first 10 minutes.

I felt a little directionless in the beginning as they don't really give you too much direction but I guess it fits the story pretty well as link has lost his memories. Once I got the ball rolling i got completely lost in all the exploring you can do. One of the quests you need to find 12 places in the world to regain some of your memories and all they give you to go off is 12 photos. In trying to locate some of these spots I found so much more than I was looking for, super strong baddies, numerous shrines, and even a giant spirit dragon that led to one of the coolest encounters I've ever seen in Zelda. It is a truly beautiful looking game and it encourages you to explore and look around which gives a much more organic way for the player to enjoy the landscapes (even players who don't normally stop to smell the flowers).

I've taken down ~20 shrines and found one of the divine beasts and it feels like I've barely scratched the surface of this game. It's like a cross between Zelda, Skyrim, and Shadows of the Colossus and I'm enjoying it immensely. I am going to lose a ton of hours to this game I can tell already.


TL:DR; Zelda: BotW is fackin' sweet, go buy it- ...right now.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: January 24, 2017, 11:51:01 PM »
I'm an OG trilogy only guy, no special editions. :griffnotevil:

Haha I actually had them both open when i was writing that post.
Definitely have fond memories of the original. Me and a few of my pals actually did this for our senior year talent show- I was vader and had a suit that was waaaay too small for me. Turned out pretty well though, many laughs were had.

Why would you be excited for it to be bad, though? You're excitement can be conditional on the prospect of it being good. =)

Conceded.

There's just been major force power creep since that movie, even Vader and Yoda were mortal back then (and Obi Wan was a "weak old man")

Woa woa now I wasn't trying to imply that he needed prequel level battle skills. I mean badass like Obi-wan who was man enough to come out of exile and ends up disabling some of the defences on the Deathstar and throwing down with Vader. Badass like Yoda who lived in exile on a very force sensitive planet- I mean Luke's relationship with the force was amplified there. Just walking around he confronted one of his greatest aversions, I imagine Yoda would have been confronted in a similar way many times in the 20 odd years he was living there. Yoda's got some badass wisdom, no doubt. Hopefully Luke can live up to his masters.

I'd like to see them make his relationship to the force more complicated and him vulnerable as a consequence...

I feel like you may get just what you want, the stage is set! There is already a potential scar upon the piousness that let him convert Vader and take down the Emp. I can only imagine the effects it would have had on him when he had his students cut down. I could definitely see it straining his relationship with the force. I wonder what he would see if he went back to Dagobah.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi
« on: January 24, 2017, 09:02:16 PM »
Get hyyyypee, it's in moments like these I have to return to the starwars gangsta rap.  :guts:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij4w7ChpuaM

But for real I am pretty excited for this- good or bad. I hope they decide to give Chewbacca more screen time; I need to see him rip a stormtroopers arm off. Hopefully after ~35 years Hamill will finally be able to play a cooler version of Luke to solidify his Badass ranking up there with Yoda and Obi-wan.

I really liked Rey's character and I only see it getting better with time. Hopefully they will be able to make Kylo Ren feel like more of a formidable villan- after the first movie he seemed pretty whiny to me, like a dark side version of Luke from Ep IV.

As for the title I feel like it strongly suggests the entire movie will be based around Luke and maybe even cover what happened after Ep VI where Luke was "The Last Jedi" and then the tragedies that led him to where he is now. I'm not trying to suggest it will be a flashback movie or anything, just that I think we will see some of these things explained in further detail.

Edit: Forgot to say that as much as the movie I am SUPER excited for another score from John Williams, that stuff is good for the soul.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Elfhelm: the stage for the next great tragedy
« on: January 08, 2017, 05:13:11 PM »
Don't forget that Guts and his party literally saved the lives of all the noblemen in Vritannis, defeated most of the Kushan enchanted beasts, and ended up saving Zodd's life. Zodd and his goons would have been annihilated by Ganishka if Guts and Schierke weren't there. Even when Guts defeated the Sea God he unintentionally helped Griffith. Now there is one less enemy in the way if Griffith decides to invade Elfhelm. And we can't just ignore the fact that the Elfhelm mages were very worried when they saw Guts' Beherit.

I really don't think ganishka would be a problem for Griffith even if he lost some of his demon army in the holy city. Nor am I sure we can assume that Zodd would have died without Guts intervention- I mean the guy has survived centuries of battle and I don't think Griffith would let his top lieutenant die so easily.

Guys has always struggled against whatever opponent is infront of him and i think the Sea God was another way to show that he has become capable of things that no average human could even dream of. While you could argue this made things easier for Griffith I really don't think it would have been hard for Griffith to deal with the Sea God- I mean just look at the final battle with Ganishka, he didn't even break a sweat against the most powerful apostle. Look at 303:12, tell me Femto is having a hard time.

I won't argue that the beherit doesn't seem like a good ticket for the godhand into elfhiem but I think any magic user who knows what a beherit is would be wise to be very worried when they see one. They don't exactly ever lead to good results.

This is why I believe that Guts has unfortunately become Griffith's / IOE's "useful idiot". He sincerely believes that he is protecting and helping the woman he loves... but in reality he is only helping his hated enemy. It's actually really sad and tragic.

While some of the things hes done have certainly helped pave the way for the neo band of the hawk he as also slowed them down a fair amount. Even if you don't count his apostle hunting days he still has a fairly solid list of set backs for Griffiths plans.
  • Slowed Flora's death and got some good apostle hunting items to help him and his party out. Also saved Schierke (+1 magic user) from death at the hands of the apostles
  • Closed the Quilpoth reducing the quantity of Slan's beasties
  • Supplied SK with a few more beherits for his scary sword

I'm sure there are more but those are just easy ones off the top of my head.

Let's say that Griffith (and the child) die first. At that point Casca has no reason to continue living and if she's now an apostle Guts still has to kill her.

What? How can you be so sure that after her mind is healed her child is the only thing shes going to care about? No reason for living?? Come on man she WAS in love with guts, she DID have a great feeling of responsibility for the band of the hawk, surely she will be livid once she comes to see the truth. I think you are way to set on Casca ONLY caring about her child- she is not such a one dimensional character.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Elfhelm: the stage for the next great tragedy
« on: January 05, 2017, 11:40:50 PM »
No, that's not what I said. Farnese and Schierke were warned by the Elf Queen that what they see in Casca's dreams may not be 100% true or accurate. I'm not saying that they will "look the other way and ignore it". I'm saying that Farnese and Schierke might not understand or believe what Casca is trying to tell them because they don't know what really happened. They have no reason to believe that Guts did anything bad to Casca. All they know is that Guts risked his life over and over to protect Casca.

We really have no idea what they will encounter in the corridor of dreams. Is it going to be a stroll through all her memories? Only a random few? Perhaps a select few pertaining to the most stressful portions of her life? Perhaps it will be more like a dream where many memories are warped into one. We have no idea what to expect- it seems likely it will be more of a rescue mission than a puzzle. I doubt Casca will be "trying to tell them" anything with her dreams and I'd be surprised if she even knew they were there until confronted.

If what the Elf King said is true Guts would make Casca more likely to run away or stir up the most vicious memories it only makes sense that the two women who have gotten the closest to her (and also happen to be magic users) be the next choices.


Well at this point in the story she basically is irrelevant.

I would argue she pretty much IS and has been the story for many volumes. The entire party was formed by guts exclusively so he could protect Casca- she is one of the few fires still burning inside guts. The story thus far has pointed out on multiple occasions that her light outshines Guts desire for revenge and is basically the only thing keeping the beast in check.

The Idea Of Evil planned it this way. Griffith (using the body of Casca's child as a vessel/hostage) has something very important that he can use against Guts even if all his other powers and abilities are severely weakened or disabled. It's not a fatal weakness. It's his trump card. The IOE is not stupid, it knows what it is doing. Even if the IOE is disabled and sealed away, even if causality is disrupted, Guts will have to confront Casca (and kill her) before he can kill Griffith.
Casca will never agree to do anything that might harm her child. Even if she now hates Griffith for what he did to her and to the old BOTH, you can never underestimate a mother's love for her child. This is why I believe that Casca will use that Beherit and will become an apostle. Casca will not allow Guts and his allies to injure or kill her child. In the end she has no choice. She can't stop Guts and his party just by using her normal human fighting skills.

A wise french moderator once told me "you really shouldn't extrapolate so much" and I think that is an important lesson for you to learn here.

Firstly, we haven't even met the "new" Casca yet, we can make almost zero assumptions about what she will be like after. In her current "regressed" state she seems to function on mostly instinct. Her physical abilities have stayed with her (complex jumps down the rocks during the conviction arc, killing the mercs that tried to molest her, etc). I would further argue that she is once again acting on instinct when she is feeding moonlight boy by repeating what Farnese had done for her. I think it is obvious that protecting her child also falls under maternal instinct.

Secondly, Femto's incarnation in the body of Casca/Guts child has already proven to be a double edged sword. The encounter on the hill of swords shows that Griffith retained some sort of instinct to protect Casca after the incarnation. There is a lot of speculation that could be made around that event in particular- and if your theory comes to pass and Guts is forced into attacking Casca what happens then? Does Griffith once again protect her? Kinda seems like it goes both ways doesn't it?

Lastly, once Casca does regain her mind who is to say her stance won't change about her child. It obviously no longer resembles the child it was and likely a rational person could come to terms with what has happened. I would imagine at the very least she develop some disdain towards Femto/Griffith.

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Griffith was not exceptionally more skillful than Guts, even then. They use very different types of swords and so they fight differently, but the key differentiator is that Griffith is able to deflect the full brunt of Guts' strikes with a single hand (which is quite the feat of strength). Whether he could have done so as easily as he did had Guts not been wounded is actually a good question. That aside, Guts could also parry and counterattack, it's not like that's some super technical skill. His fighting style just doesn't lend itself to it as much since he uses a massive weapon.

Don't get me wrong I'm not arguing Guts isn't a talented swordsman- just the fundamentals of his style have different win conditions than griffith. Griffith always seem to use an opponents attack to create an opening with a parry or similar maneuver whereas Guts style favors being the one to set the tempo using powerful attacks from his huge weapon to stagger or overwhelm his opponent.

Now obviously its no easy feat of swordsmanship to swing around a giant sword and keep up with the faster attacks of a smaller weapon and would require a great amount of skill and precision to use this style. However, Griffith's style is also very technical with precise ripostes and the ability to even parry Guts huge sword. I guess that's why it makes such a good matchup and story they are fairly even match.

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True, I guess I was thinking of this in terms of fighting strength and not in terms of swordsmanship. Griffith definitely uses a more advanced form of swordplay with clever parry's and counter-attacks.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Serpico vs pre-eclipse Griffith
« on: December 16, 2016, 06:02:43 PM »
I'd give the fight to Serpico, as the Guts he fought was much more stronger than the one Griffith dueled with. Even by the time Guts fought Wyald, Casca said he was several degress beyond anyone in the hawks, imagine how much further the gap would have increased by the time of the Conviction arc. So with that in mind, Serpico being able to evade Guts' sword swing and slightly scar him is pretty darn impressive.


These were kind of my thoughts too, but neither of the fights really last long. It definitely seemed like guts was surprised with Serpico's speed but I feel it really wouldn't have been a problem for him when it came down to it. I am however inclined to agree with Mammon, if they were on horseback Griffith would likely have far more experience- plus it would reduce the value of Serpico's speed.

So I guess for me: Griffith wins on horse, Serpico wins on foot.

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I always wondered how Guts might have fared in his little rematch with Griffith had he not been still wounded by their first encounter. But seeing how Griffith owned him in the blink of an eye, maybe him more hale may not have made a difference in that situation...God, even all that has happened I miss Guts and Griffith's old friendship...

Yeah i was gonna say this. Seeing how the rematch was pretty close and Guts had literally just woken up from a injury induced coma I imagined them being pretty close in skill at this time. I feel like if Guts couldn't take him at this point with full HP it certainly wouldn't have taken him long to eclipse Griffith (huehue).

-Arc

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Speculation Nation / Serpico vs pre-eclipse Griffith
« on: December 13, 2016, 06:11:26 PM »
I know this comparison has been done to death but I thought it would be fun to speculate who would win a straight up fight between these two. I just finished rereading the fight between Serpico and Guts on the cliff face and obviously Serpico did everything he could to skew the odds in his favor and was still defeated handily.

The last time we see Griffith fight pre-eclipse is his clash with guts where they both put in their all (well, at least Griffith) and Griffith is also handily defeated. I also feel like i need to point out that Guts is obviously far more powerful when he faces Serpico post lost-children.

I don't know if all of Serpico's carefully planned advantages on the cliff really outweigh the power gain of guts between then and when he fought Griffith pre-eclipse but I think it is roughly an even match. They both use a very agile and fast form of fighting and have shown the ability to quickly analyze their opponents.

What do you guys think? If they fight with zero prep time, who wins- Griffith or Serpico? Saber or Rapier?

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Manga Mausoleum / Re: Vol 3 / 14 Sanity check
« on: December 13, 2016, 04:17:34 PM »
Of course your right, seems they are a lot more frequent than I had realized. I suppose it makes sense with how isolated guts typically is. He rarely talks to anyone that isn't a monster :P wish I had a paper copy of these volumes to review. Soontm.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re: What colour are Beherits?
« on: December 12, 2016, 09:08:46 PM »
Roger that, thanks again.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re: Vol 3 / 14 Sanity check
« on: December 12, 2016, 08:51:13 PM »
Right, ok that makes sense. I suppose with his constant struggle at this point he doesn't have time to reflect like he did in the golden age arc after clashing with zodd.

I am personally a big fan of the scenes with introspective guts and the tautological epiphanies he has (didn't realize what he had till he lost it, etc). I believe the next time we see that sort of reflection (post eclipse) is after the dream when Godo chews him out and he resets his focus around Casca.

Sorry, my thoughts have kind of derailed from my original question at this point, thanks for the info fellas.

-Arc

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Manga Mausoleum / Re: What colour are Beherits?
« on: December 12, 2016, 08:31:23 PM »
Hey thanks,

I always wondered about that, is there somewhere where it talks about the colours or are we inferring from some cannon colourized images?

-Arc

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Manga Mausoleum / Vol 3 / 14 Sanity check
« on: December 12, 2016, 05:33:19 PM »
Hey all,

I did a quick search of the site but I didn't see anything obvious. Common sense tells me that the Black swordsman arc fits chronologically roughly somewhere in the 2 years after the eclipse before lost children and conviction. However, I was wondering if anyone knew exactly where it fit in because it always seemed like a really big event to me during the fight with the count where he encounters the god hand again. I don't remember seeing anywhere else in the story that really refers to that event (which seems pretty notable as I think it's one of the very few times he's seen femto since the eclipse).

I guess it must be the case that it happened somewhere before lost children but I just found it odd that there is no mention of it as the story continues and guts heads off to slice up some more apostles.

Cheers,
-Arc

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Manga Mausoleum / What colour are Beherits?
« on: December 12, 2016, 05:22:37 PM »
Hey all, I know the manga refers to Griffith's Beherit as crimson, and I was under the impression that it was a bit of a special one meant for a future member of the godhand.

After my first read through I had kinda just assumed the all looked the same but with how much emphasis they put on the "crimson" one, I was wondering if anyone knew if the "regular" Beherits were all the same color or if they were assorted or what.

I know it's not really important just a small curiosity.
-Arc

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