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Speculation Nation / Re: The Passage of Time in Recent Volumes
« on: April 07, 2009, 10:47:57 AM »

i think 3,5-4 since Band of the Hawk, 1,5-2 years since Lost Children have past. And Guts with his new group have been together at least for 6 months but no more than a year.


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I'm against for someone to die. But if it really going to happen then it will be Serpico. He is gallant and very protective to his sister. Probably will die saving her, when Guts won't be available or unable to.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts and the Beherit Sword
« on: April 05, 2009, 12:55:50 AM »
Not at all. And sorry, but as far as we know, it IS ready.

Its still not clear if is it ready or not. I accept it as your opinion and one of the possibilities. But not as final.

See, my problem with what you're saying in this thread is that it all sounds like an easy excuse so that nothing can be questioned. The fact the principles of the world are changing doesn't mean there doesn't need to be a certain quantity of beherits to cover a given surface. To relate the two is just far-fetched to me.
Well to try to find a logical physical attributes (like area of surface) for a something like beherit (which helped caused so many illogical things) is futile to me. But it is your opinion.

Then what other way do you suggest it happen? Sorry but I'm not going to let this go. I understand that you don't want to discuss it at length, but in the context of your "prediction", I'd like to know how you envision it.
Well i started this topic about if or not is Guts going to acquire beherit sword. But not for how is going to happen. If you think that also the way is important, then share your opinion.  dont you think it is something really important and put by the author on purpose. Which according to me it is.
 
So, what about it? Why would Guts have the DS transformed, and how would it be done? I don't think it's very likely to happen.
I think its going to be important in the final fight. First we saw SK eating the Beherits. After many chapters we saw SK is coating his sword with the consumed Beherits. I think author reminded us on purpose to not forget about all those Beherits that SK  acquired from fallen apostoles and given us hint that it will play important role in future.



Not ... necessarily. I think you misunderstand the nature of the God Hand, and it's a pretty common misunderstanding.

The God Hand are not sitting around in some God Hand Dimension, waiting in the God Hand Tea Room drinking their God Hand Tea plotting away at how to bring evil into the world. They are by default, formless. They can only manifest their "bodies" that we're so familiar with during particular circumstances, such as during occultations and sacrificial ceremonies. But otherwise, and especially recently, their essence (can't think of a better word right now) floats around in various places, particularly places where evil is gathered -- such as how we see Conrad in the horde of rats in vol 17, or Slan in the flames of the orgy in vol 18. This is all explained by SK at the end of in vol 18 and later by Slan in vol 26, with a small reference by Flora in vol 24. [To go a little further, the peculiarities surrounding the God Hand's existence in the Astral World is what makes the reincarnation ceremony that Griffith undergoes so rare and special -- their essence is vast and powerful. To funnel and concentrate it down into a singular human form would be a monumental undertaking, and it is.]

Therefore, SK's technique is likely already viable, but he's been waiting for the right time to strike, such as when they're gathered together, or in a more cohesive form than they are normally. However, you ARE right that SK said he was "testing" out the technique. Still, there's really no indication the Yobimizu no Tsurugi isn't ready to be put to the true test.
I mostly agree. Just i think that SK is more of a guy that use the opportunity when presented to him, thats why i think he will try to kill a god hand whether they appear together or alone. 

There is another thing that i want to add about the abilities of Yobimizu no Tsurugi. SK says he plans to lock the god hand in the vortex. We dont yet know what happens to something when locked up in vortex. But if it is not killing them, I find it very unlikely that Guts will accept just to imprison his enemies. Guts has a blood feud with Grifith and God Hand. Only killing them will end quest. Thats why i think it will be revealed that locking in vortex means certain end or beherit sword has some destructive power also.


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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts and the Beherit Sword
« on: April 04, 2009, 09:16:06 PM »
Based on what evidence? Are you saying other swords will be manufactured based on this "prototype"?
I said prototype not for manufacturing, but more like pre-final form. If SK thought it was ready, I'm sure he would already acted and used it against god hand. But apparently it is not.

Says who? Where are you pulling those rules, or rather that absence of any rule from?
It was just a hypothesis, a prediction. I'm not pulling any rules, because there are not. Espacially during the time period in the story which we are discussing where the world's logic is gone.
Around the world, unexplained things for normal human, things of madness are happening.

Sorry but that's not much of an argument. You're not addressing what I said.
As i said previously it doesn't have to happen that way. If it is hard to read my prediction, just accept it as fan fiction from a fellow Berserk fan.
But again thats not the topic, Its about Guts and Beherit Sword.

I perfectly understood your point. I'm just telling you it's not a very good one in my opinion, which is what you asked at the end of your first post.
I'm glad you understand. :ganishka:

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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts and the Beherit Sword
« on: April 04, 2009, 07:33:03 PM »
What? Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. And I don't think SK needs his sword to acquire more "power", whatever that's supposed to mean. As far as we know, it can already do what it's meant to.

Anyway, regarding your hypothesis, there's also the problem of the stabbing through SK, then pulling out the blade. For the beherit goo to stay on the blade while pulling it out, the crack in SK's armor would have to be enlarged somehow. I have a hard time representing it to myself to be honest.

I mean it is still in prototype phase. Even Skull Knight was not sure about its power. And its made from Beherits, it does not have to apply law of physics and be proportional in size and quantity. Beherits just magically envelopes the sword.
And for my hypothesis, its fantasy and magic. Sword stabs from one side and comes from other side changed.

But yet again it is not important how it will happen. I think you missunterstood my point. What i try to say is whether or not SK will teach/give/lend/posses.. this power to Guts, and will we see the Dragon Slayer(or some other weapon of Guts) as Beherit Sword. Because i think more things will happen in future episodes related to this. 

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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts and the Beherit Sword
« on: April 04, 2009, 05:55:56 PM »
My point is that I don't think there are enough beherits inside SK to cover the Dragon Slayer.

I think there are not enough Beherits to become what really SK wants it to become in terms of power, not the covering layer. 

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Site & Forum News / Re: Writing Miura
« on: April 04, 2009, 05:47:21 PM »
Congratulations on this great achievement. Its great to see the author acknowledges his fans from abroad.

What impressed me most was his working hours. from 2.00 pm to 7.00 am. Just wow. :SK:

And season 2 likely to happen. Which is kick ass news! :ganishka: :ganishka: I hope it happens in near future.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts and the Beherit Sword
« on: April 04, 2009, 05:26:03 PM »
SK is able to change his sword by covering it in beherits. It isn't transformed by "energies stored inside them". As for the Dragon Slayer being covered in beherits, to be honest I don't think SK's eaten nearly enough of them for that to happen. The surface just seems too big.
 

By "energies stored inside" i meant all those enegies from digested Beherits(that covers the sword). And yes because the surface is too big, instead eating the Slayer, Guts will have impale it through Skull Knight torso. It doesn't have to became in this way. I just dramatized in this way. Even Skull Knight doesnt have to sacriface. Maybe Guts desperate and blinded from revenge won't see any other way to harm God Hand(which their spiritual power is so high they cannot manifiest themselves in physical world so easily) other than using a beherit sword which can cut through fabric of reality and kills Skull Knight. Which is again just maybe. How Guts will acquire this power is not important to this topic.
What important is that Beherit Sword was shown on purpose by the author. I think it will have great significance in the endgame. And why to show something(important?) like that if the main hero won't use it?   

That doesn't make sense. In what way would it be more functional?
 
functional in a way that can harm the godhand. or cut through physical reality and open a gate to realm of god hand. we will have to wait till we see all its power.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts and the Beherit Sword
« on: April 04, 2009, 04:10:32 PM »
SK is my favorite character after Guts, it will be sad to see him die. but its always the more experienced or the teacher figure that dies first. Skull Knight
may look and act very inhumane sometimes to be a teacher figure. But he appeared many times to help by rescuing or giving advise.
He sees Guts as potential ally in war against God Hand. And when inevitable comes he would prefer to give his life by creating the ultimate weapon.
I didnt think about the power boost as shounen manga style power up-technique-transformation or what not, but more like new and more advanced weapon.
like from WW II rifle to modern day army machine gun, as jarome said more functional.

this happens a lot in many stories. just one example is star wars. obi-wan sacrifices his life to help luke escape, because he believes 
luke can defeat the empire. i think  that in future chapters we will see the relation between Guts and Skull Knight will develop in that way.

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Speculation Nation / Guts and the Beherit Sword
« on: April 04, 2009, 03:08:06 PM »
Hi, its my first post.

I have a theory about how Guts will acquire a "Beherit sword" just like the one Skull Knight created, when he saved
Guts in the Troll Cave. After a great battle, maybe even after death of one of the God Hand (except Femto of course) Skull
Knight will be mortally wounded. Before he dies he will say to Guts to impale him with the Dragon Slayer.
After a bit hesitation Guts will do it. As the Dragon Slayer impales Skull Knight's body it will be transformed into
a Beherit sword from the energies stored of consumed Beherits inside Skull Knights body.
I think this event will occur just before the final confrontation of Guts and Femto-Grifith. This will be important
boost to Guts fighting power just like the Berserk Armor. What do you think, is it possible?

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