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Character Cove / Re: Was Rosine evil?
« on: December 09, 2016, 11:59:53 AM »
That is not what the story tells us. Rosine wasn't a 6 year old, she was a teenager, and she understood what she was doing. She was somewhat immature about it, but she knew nevertheless.

The sacrifice does not actually affect their body directly. It affects their soul. And when the soul is twisted, corrupted, that is reflected on the body (i.e. it acquires monstrous, supernatural properties). That is why once an apostle dies (and their soul is taken to the Vortex of Souls) their body reverts to its normal, human form.
Ok.

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Character Cove / Re: Was Rosine evil?
« on: December 09, 2016, 04:53:35 AM »
Because of her actions as an apostle, they can be defined as evil. From what I feel, she was very unaware of her consequences because of her young age. Though, sacrificing your parents in order to become an apostle doesn't excuse her actions, even if she was abused by her father. For Rosine it was all part of becoming something from her fantasies; to escape her abusive family life and live the life she always wanted. She showed true heartfelt emotions for her friend Jill and seemed to care deeply for her, longing for Jill to run away and be with her and play together forever with no worries, which other than the Count, we see that an apostle can show sympathy and compassion which takes away from their "evil" nature.

In reality, evil is all a matter of perspective. From Rosine's perspective, Guts was the evil doer trying to take everything away from her, while in her mind her actions deemed to be helpful and good.

But since this is a story about the struggle of man vs. apostles, we have to categorize her character as someone who is evil.
I think she was aware of her actions she just didn't care. She said something like "It's alright I can just make new friends." when the elves were killing each other in that mock war. How Rosine and the Count treated their loved ones seemed selfish to me they both treated them like objects instead of people. The Count kept his daughter locked in her room with no freedom and Rosine was going to turn Jill into an elf despite the fact she did not want to be one.

Besides being, like, clinically evil as Aaz and Wally point out, she was also responsible for a lot of wanton death, destruction, and suffering from a practical standpoint; all things typically considered evil to society. Particularly the kidnapping, corruption, and ultimate demise of dozens or more children. On that ground alone you could argue she's one of the most heinous apostles ever presented, the worst kind of monster. She may have seemed like a child herself and merely ignorant of the consequences in the process, but she wasn't, and I think that's where the literally being evil part really comes into play because she just didn't care at all. Even her remorse in the end wasn't for the obvious loss and devastation she caused others, but her selfish own. Same for the Count, sure he could feel for his own flesh and blood, but he gave no thought to the hundreds if not thousands of others he'd put through Hell. That's the true nature of an Apostle.

Now that we've settled that, do you guys think Griffith is maybe kind of a jerk? :???:

Exactly, when she was dying all she thought about was how she was disappointed that she wasn't a real elf and that they never really existed. I haven't the slightest clue what Griffin is thinking but I believe he honestly does not care for Casca or Guts anymore and that he just views them as toys or tools at best.

It's actually not very subtle:


So what does that mean? Does the sacrifice affect more than just their bodies?

All apostles are evil. That is what they are. But in spite of that, as the story shows, her character had many nuances to it.
Ok.

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Character Cove / Was Rosine evil?
« on: December 08, 2016, 04:04:19 AM »
Do any of you believe Rosine is evil?

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Speculation Nation / Re: Will Rosine be mentioned soon?
« on: September 25, 2016, 02:16:04 AM »
No, why? Because they're in Elfhelm and she paraded as a fake elf queen?
I feel like the opportunity for her to be mentioned has passed for the time being. The coming episodes will focus on Casca and other such important matters.
Also, while it would be nice for Puck or Guts to talk about her (which is still possible, but not in the immediate future), I feel like by itself it wouldn't amount to much: a mention in passing, an anecdote.

Yea, I am just getting a feeling that she might be brought up for some reason.

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Speculation Nation / Will Rosine be mentioned soon?
« on: September 24, 2016, 10:32:36 AM »
Is anyone getting the feeling Rosine will be mentioned soon?

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