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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 347
« on: September 23, 2016, 04:53:16 PM »
However, that panel could still symbolize Guts' eye. You know how? Because him looking at her, seeing her in that vilified state, being powerless and abused, is the last thing she experienced before her consciousness faded. Much like Guts' last sight, forever burned into his dead right eye, was of her being raped... Her last memory is of him watching her... of that shame and guilt? Remember her words: "don't look". Only six months and we'll know.

Honestly, I don't know how likely it is, but I really like the sound of that. So many things transpired that day, she was bound to be overwhelmed on many sides and considering her love for Guts, being raped specifically in front of him definitely left a lot of scars as it did on Guts.

I hope we will get to see a whole deconstruction of all the parts that traumatized Casca, it's probably the only way to help her cope.
In another post you mentioned Casca probably also thinking she failed as a leader, I hope this in particular is something we will get to see, especially since Judeau emphasized before dying that she was their commander and Rickert denied the Falcon of Light as his commander in vol 38.

Casca is still alive so the original Band of Falcon isn't completely annihilated yet (if we go by Judeau's words), meaning I'd really love to see what she's thinking of herself as a commander with everything that happened during the eclipse.
Of course the next few episodes are bound to be extremely painful (I was already saddened by how the first layer of her consciousness appeared, poor girl), but I am happy we will get to see things from Casca's point of view for the first time in a long while.

An interesting thought on how dreams are actually a part of the astral world: If they visit the eclipse and the God Hand in Cascaís dreams, can the God Hand there sense them and interact since itís more than just a memory? Perhaps a nightmarish gateway to Elfhelm. That could be terrifying.

Ah this is something I didn't catch on immediately so thanks for pointing that out, and interestingly maybe this is the trigger people who think Griffith and his apostles are going to attack Skellig Island are waiting for.

From what Danan said though, Farnese and Schierke entered Casca's dream and Casca is the one making the rules of her own dreams, so if her dreams are about everything she went through during the Eclipse, this sounds a bit too easy if the God Hand chooses this particular time to interact with the girls in my opinion.

Character Cove / Re: In-depth Berserk Analysis (Part 1)
« on: September 09, 2016, 09:00:55 AM »
I don't know yet whether I'll have things to say, but could you maybe put spaces between your paragraphs? It will make it easier to read for me.

Berserk torture rooms are always fun to read through. Volume 18, p. 171, a nice shot of a boob being pulled apart by the breast ripper, and then some poor individual who had the Pear of Anguish inserted inside them

:magni: No thank you!

I agree, this was one of the disturbing scenes I mentioned, but still, since we're following Guts' story and the eclipse was way more heart-wrenching on top of the violence (because we knew the characters who were sacrificed, Casca's rape was hard to bear with and same for Guts' desperation) I still think the eclipse doesn't have a real equivalent so far, even if other arcs do have their share of disturbing moments.

Hmm, this is just me, but I find the eclipse to be by far the most violent part of the series, there were some pretty disturbing scenes in other arcs for sure, but nothing can compare to that.
So not really, no.

It's not like Miura is gradually increasing in violence with each new apostle or villain or monster that Guts is facing, the culminating point in the story so far always was the eclipse.
And if the eclipse remains the most violent part despite all that Guts went through before and mostly after, for me it means Miura knows how to gauge the amount of violence he puts into every battle.

So if none are outdoing the eclipse (which is the most traumatizing event out of them all for Guts) then for me it's not too much.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: How Did You Find Out About Berserk?
« on: September 01, 2016, 08:03:33 AM »
A close friend mentioned it something like two years ago but after looking it up extremely briefly and seeing Guts' Dragon Slayer, I thought this would be too heavy on the fighting side for it to interest me.

And then at the very beginning of this year, I read an interview from the author of Shingeki no Kyojin saying that he had been inspired by Casca's character when he imagined the main girl of the series, so I went to look it up again, remembered my friend's words, read some extremely positive reviews and watched the three movies not long after to see whether this could be something I'd enjoy.

And... well, I picked up the manga from the very first volume immediately after and it took me about 3-4 months to read through it and buy all volumes.

Easily one of the best (if not the best) series I'm following right now and I'm glad I looked it up again and gave it a chance.

Speculation Nation / Re: Elfhelm: the stage for the next great tragedy
« on: August 31, 2016, 08:59:16 PM »
I agree with Lawliet, not to say your idea of a bloodbath is completely unlikely because we can't really know for sure (as it's just the beginning of their time there), but Skellig Island remained out of Griffith's interest so far, so why would he suddenly order an attack on the island?

As several people already explained in different threads, now that the world tree appeared, it doesn't seem likely that Griffith would attack simply to destroy a few more spirit woods, I think the matter of the Beherit is completely unrelated and it's not because of Guts and Casca's presence on the island either, since he has no more feelings about them as he said in volume 22.

So if there is a bloodbath at some point on Skellig Island, I think the triggering event leading to it did not happen yet in the story, that's why for the moment, with what we've read about, I would also consider it's unlikely.

Character Cove / Re: Farnese Analysis: The Wild Card
« on: August 28, 2016, 08:04:41 AM »
To me, there are a few things to consider in this situation.
1) Guts doesn't smile for a long length of time
2) We actually don't see Farnese smile so it's still only speculation
3) Her becoming "despondent" at his smile matches how she's been acting regarding him and Casca as far back as the Moon Child's first appearance. As such, I don't think my interpretation is that far off.
4) In fact, I feel her smiling at him at this point would be inconsistent with how she's been acting all this time in regards to Guts/Casca.

Ah I'm sorry but there is a misunderstanding: Schierke is the one who was smiling in that scene, I just said that only Farnese noticed that Guts stopped to smiling, that's all. My interpretation was that she was surprised by his reaction, but as Aazealh explained, it could also be seen differently.

iirc she didn't control coming back from her projection. She ended up losing control when Guts began talking about Casca and woke up to everyone and her own surprise.

That is also slightly incorrect. She indeed lost control when Guts started to talk about Casca but that's because she didn't want to know Guts' answer to Roderick, something she admits inwardly after waking up (if you want to reread that part, it's the very first episode of volume 33).

Character Cove / Re: Farnese Analysis: The Wild Card
« on: August 27, 2016, 09:29:03 AM »
I disagree with that interpretation. Farnese is in love with Guts, and so she is jealous of Casca to some extent. That's something the story has made clear several times. Her feelings about the current developments are therefore mixed, because she wants to have Guts for herself, and still hopes that she will. Of course, that doesn't mean she hates Casca. She clearly has a lot of affection for her. But the heart wants what it wants. Dealing with those unrequited feelings (and with the "new" Casca) will be the next big development for her character.

In the specific scene you refer to, I interpret Farnese's facial expression as being worried and maybe a bit disheartened after watching the exchange between Cucca, Schierke & Guts. I think you give too much importance to that panel of Guts looking stern. He has many reasons to not relax yet at that point, mostly because nothing is sure. Yet remember how impatient he was to meet the Sovereign of the Flower Storm once they got to the village. He can't wait to bring her back. What the Skull Knight warned him about will come to bear, but it hasn't yet.

Ah I agree about Farnese's feelings for Guts, without a doubt, so I do think that she has mixed feelings about Casca being cured, but I just meant she might have been surprised by Guts' reaction in that scene in particular (since she never really was privy to Guts' worries), although your interpretation makes complete sense as well and fits with her being jealous.
And my bad you're right, it's true Guts was really eager to meet with the Sovereign of the Flower Storm in episode 345.

Character Cove / Re: Farnese Analysis: The Wild Card
« on: August 27, 2016, 07:14:25 AM »
While translation are not reliable, my analysis has little to do with the dialogues and more to do with the actions and choices that Farnese has made.

Hello there, sorry, just passing by to say that I also think you should seek the official translation for your essay (it will be actually reliable in comparison to what you've been reading) because from the moment you're quoting something that was mistranslated and are using it for interpretation... Well, I'm sure you understand that it can't convey accurate thoughts.

A simple example: Farnese never ever called Casca a cunning bitch, not even anything remotely close to that. So all the parts in your essay coming from this mistranslation will all be wrong in the first place and... you do spend a long time talking about Farnese hating Casca, something that is beyond misinterpretation in my opinion.

I also think you are misinterpreting panels because you're relying on false assumptions (then again because the translation you're using is not accurate). Still on the example of Farnese "hating Casca" (which, again, I think is not true at all)...
Lastly, when Master Archmage hints that the Elf King can indeed cure Casca, Farnese can only watch dejectedly as Guts smiles for the first time in several volumes.

Nothing like that happened, in fact it's completely the opposite: Schierke got the confirmation (not from a guru but from Cucca, an apprentice) that it was possible to cure Casca so she turned to Guts all happy and he smiled back at her, before immediately looking stern again, which is why Farnese looked at him surprised (look again if you have the episode, he is not smiling at all).
And the reason for her surprise is easy to understand, it was Guts' goal for a long time to bring Casca on Skellig Island in order to cure her, and yet now that they arrived he doesn't seem so happy anymore about the prospect (because he is worried that, according to the Skull Knight's words, Casca and him will have different wishes once she's cured); that's what Farnese is seeing and that's why she's surprised.

I don't really have the time right now to point out more parts that you should work on again but I agree with Aazealh that you might be wasting your time if you're not relying on a more accurate translation.

Being very new in the forums, I hope I didn't outstep my boundaries by answering you like I did (if anything because my knowledge on all this could be called questionable as I haven't been around for long), so if I should have let an older member answer, please just let me know. 

Anime Asylum / Re: 2016 Berserk TV series: Episode 9
« on: August 26, 2016, 09:51:09 PM »
Nope, there's still no explanation over what the hell it's supposed to be. I have no idea what they're trying to accomplish by trying to draw it out...assuming they ever intend on explaining just what it is and why it's so fixated on Casca.

Thank you! Yes, this is bugging me to be honest and I'm not sure either they'll explain before the cour is over. A dumb decision to leave out that part in particular even if there are numerous things to criticize besides this point... The demon child is beyond important in this arc after all.
Oh well, not that I expected a lot from this anime after I saw the first two episodes.

Anime Asylum / Re: 2016 Berserk TV series: Episode 9
« on: August 26, 2016, 09:30:16 PM »
And yeah, the way they handled Mozgus' fire is (surprise) super misleading. The boy just disappears instead of holding the fire back to protect his mom, and being hurt in the process. Terrible depiction.

Ah, thank you for the explanation, it wasn't my eyes then. I had the hardest time understanding whether they had gotten this scene wrong or not.

And average episode, like the rest of them for me, not worse but not better. I can't really get used to the way the animation is done, especially not when this arc in the manga is just... well, probably my favorite.
Also, not to defend the voice actors, but since the animation doesn't make the characters that expressive, maybe it's why the exchanges between characters feel lifeless. I have to admit, in the scene they're escaping from the torture chambers when Azan asks what's going on (before Guts seizes Farnese) felt like they were going on a picnic...

Ah and I can't remember for sure, but did they actually do a flashback in the past episodes explaining who the demon infant was? I seem to recall that it wasn't the case, but I'm not 100% certain...

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 346
« on: August 25, 2016, 10:11:00 PM »

I'm not expecting Elf queen to snap her fingers and bring Cascas sanity back, it will likely be a difficult process that involves Casca willing herself back into consciousness.

I agree. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cucca in episode 344 slightly explained the process having to do with a "corridor of dreams" so I would not be surprised if several episodes were dedicated to this, with a long look into Casca's head and how she feels about everything that happened ever since the eclipse (or even slightly before).

LiveAnotherDave over on Reddit made a nice Imgur album of some of the new creatures introduced in this episode and historical art that bear resemblances to them. I thought y'all might be interested in taking a look. Check it out here!

Thank you for the link, it's very interesting.

Shootin' the Breeze / Re: Amazing manga you've read?
« on: August 25, 2016, 09:31:02 PM »
I watched the season one anime adaption of Monster and enjoyed it a lot. Was it true to the manga or drastically different?

The manga was faithfully adaptated and the 74 episodes cover the entire story (18 volumes). I generally prefer the original version when I follow a series (so in that case, the manga), but it was still a good experience to watch the anime with all the colors, the music and the voice actors.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 346
« on: August 25, 2016, 02:49:16 PM »
Welcome! Note a few corrections to terms and names below:

- Hanafubuku is an untranslated title that means Flower Storm. I couldn't tell you why Dark Horse's translation chose to leave it merely romanized instead of actually localizing the term (which is, ya know, their job). We've known since Vol 28 that the title implied the Sovereign of the Flower Storm had some association with cherry blossoms, which was confirmed a few episodes ago, and absolutely confirmed in this episode. Meanwhile, Hanafubuku may as well be Pupupupupupupu in English.

- That's a made up term. A more direct translation is guru.

- *Federico de Vandimion.

- I'm sure Miura won't just write Magnifico off, but I think people (not just you) are overlooking what's probably the real reason that Miura chose to bring him along: He's the most worldly human in the most otherworldly environment on the planet. It creates hilarious contrasts and scenarios.

Duly noted. Thanks!

...I'd say it's nearly certain everyone who's even a little bit higher-up on Elfhelm at least knows of him. Personally though? Hmm. Likely.

I agree about the Skull Knight. I believe it was at the end of volume 18 that Puck encountered him with Guts and thought that he "kinda felt like an elf" even if he didn't say it out loud.  So this would be likely in my opinion, aside from the fact he knew Flora who was a powerful witch.

Shootin' the Breeze / Re: Amazing manga you've read?
« on: August 25, 2016, 01:09:15 PM »
Monster by Urasawa Naoki is also a very good if ones like thrillers, although there isn't a single supernatural element.

Song of the long march was also mentioned before and I agree, it's really good.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 346
« on: August 25, 2016, 10:35:09 AM »
Hello everyone, I'm new here :) Let me know if I have to change a few things whenever I post something.

First of all, thank you for the summary and I have to admit this episode was a nice surprise in regards to the pacing, as well as the impressive art! I wasn't expecting them to meet Hanafubuku that fast either, although on the subject of Danann, I'm wondering if the fact she had the notion of time when the archmages or the students apparently didn't was yet another hint to her identity (namely dinner, the fact she seemed to realize Puck had been gone for a long time and, besides Gedfryn, it seems she was the only one and Gedfryn did say the sovereign had had an oracle about Puck).

I wonder what the purpose of Magnifico is in general aside being comedy relief ( and a poor one on top of that )

I agree that he is probably there mostly for comic relief but considering he's also the son of Federico do Vandimion who is one of the most influential men of the series... maybe he could have a different role in the future, if just to testify of what he saw as a way to corroborate what Farnese could say, in case they need their father's help. It's very far in the future though, and I really doubt he will have any other role while they're on Elfhelm.

That is an interesting thought, but I think it's slightly different. Basically I don't think Griffith's Od could possibly be close to that of an elf (due to its inherent nature, and the fact it makes the Brand bleed, etc.). So to me the fact the boy's own Od differs and is gentle must have another explanation... Like maybe it's his own power and not Griffith's (Femto's), or something like that.

But while we're on the topic, I do think the new element we just learned of plays a key role in Griffith's otherworldly charisma.

Sorry I know this isn't the topic, but isn't it possible that Griffith's Od is just inherently evil anyway because of the fact he is Femto? Since the boy isn't producing any kind of reaction from the brand when he's close by while Griffith did, I would have thought their powers and Ods don't really have to do with each other (although since he is so powerful, maybe he did borrow some of Griffith's power, if we're assuming he is the demon infant that is).

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