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Speculation Nation / Literary criticism of Berserk
« on: December 16, 2007, 11:40:29 PM »
Well

Alright, but as far as I can tell, what you've been saying isn't really related to the mythological elements Miura has inspired himself from in the story. I feel like it's more an over analysis on your part, with some common themes that you're forcibly slapping on top of events to make them correspond to a certain line of thought. This results in the occultation of the actual subtext and possible symbolic meaning (as not everything has necessarily symbolism attached to it) of the concerned scenes. Yet, like I said earlier, not everything in your post felt wrong to me, there were some parts with which I agreed to some extent, such as the vagina-like apostle in volume 26 and the way Guts came out "a new man" out of it. But you have to realize that it has no real depth other than getting a "neat!" out of the reader when he notices it...

Those are nice to notice, but ultimately they don't deserve and cannot sustain deep analysis...

... And I believe that many of the concepts exposed in Berserk have full significance within the context of the story, especially considering the way Miura goes about his story.


I rarely disagree with you Aazheal, as I think you have an excellent understanding of the story, but I think that literary criticism need not be bound by authorial intentions. I don't necessarily agree with Forest Wraith's as it sounds like he is trying to fit a lot of his interpretations with Joseph Campbell's genre/monomyth criticism and I don't actually see the rebirth/birth thing as being essential. But I enjoy hearing others critical analysis just the same - maybe this type of conversation should take place on the speculation board.

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Character Cove / Re: The Guts/Farnese relationship thread.
« on: December 08, 2007, 10:22:11 AM »
Prepare to be surprised then. :carcus:

I thinking Puck will end up with all of the ladies by story's end and thus will start the Berserk harem spin off - with hilarious consequences.

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Video Games / Re: Assassin's Creed
« on: November 25, 2007, 10:41:29 AM »
I really enjoyed the game (though I would have preferred a less fantastical story line -  still that isn't a major complaint) - I am always glad to see developers take risks. The interface works fairly well, though some really interesting things could be done with combat between the player and large groups of guards (though I see the challenge that it would present developers). I have more to say but I am really tired...

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Finally a game pad that would allow me individual control over my characters toes and digits. I would be willing to give such a thing a try if only for shear amusement (though I hate track balls - which is clearly this things biggest problem...  :guts:). One thing is for sure, you wouldn't run short on key bindings for a game. This is what happens when someone decides to map an established item on to a nonstandard topology. 

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Encyclopedia: Q&A / Re: Goat God
« on: November 15, 2007, 04:29:49 AM »
I tried to do a search on this board on the Goat God character that appeared in volume 18 and 19. I am wondering who is that character. I also tried to look him up on google as well and the only thing I came close was a name "Baphomet" and the image is almost similiar to the Berserk character. Anyway what I found interesting is that character appeared in the movie the "300" and if you noticed the Goat God was surround in an environment of lust.  Anyway idea who this character is?

The figure Baphomet is somewhat dubious - often associated with the Templar mythos/pseudo-history (in which Baphomet was not a goat-like figure). By the way I wouldn't look for historical accuracy in "300" - but goat-like figures have often associated with sexuality and fertility (such as Pan in Greek mythology). So it isn't a surprise to have such a figure as a center piece of a sexual rite. But again "300" isn't much when it comes to accuracy, the film (especially)  & graphic novel's need to portray the Spartan society as fitting the modern western model of heterosexuality (as opposed to the pederastic society that it was), as champions of personal "freedom" (they still after all had classes that were little more than slaves), and marginalization of the other Greek forces who were at that last stand (closer to 1500 people were there at the end), is evidence enough to state that the film is in no way accurately portraying the social context of either of the societies.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 290
« on: October 07, 2007, 01:52:40 AM »
What bothers me the most is if Griff is inhuman why is he "busy" in such a ridiculous petty matter like being King. I mean he's somewhat of a God and above all that, so why? It's a very cheap macho ambition right?


Not really cheap or macho, per se. The Kingship has always been Griffith's ultimate goal. It is what Ubik (in his old woman "costume") focused on when he was "persuading" Griffith to sacrifice the Band of the Hawk during the eclipse. Why shouldn't it be his focus now. I do not believe that any of the God Hand have become liberated from their own dreams/desires due to their ascension, in fact the very act of them sacrificing something dear to them in exchange for their "dream" is the ultimate embrace of personal desire. The fact that we know so little about the other God Hand members makes it impossible to know their motives or desires (though we can speculate).

That Griffith is "somewhat of a god," doesn't make him above his human lusts and desires, the power he has doesn't ensure that he will be above earthly desire (just as in many mythologies the "gods" are just as or more petty than the mortals) something in which the ceremonies revel in.
 
Anyway lovely episode, the art is awesome, but as usual i didnt like the constant 2 pages per episode of stupid elf humour...*sigh*

BLASPHEMY! It's all Puck you know. If it weren't for him, Guts wouldn't be around anymore...  :puck:

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Now it is a hawk, does it mean anything, is guts view of Griffith changing?

I don't think so, that Guts "sees" flashes of various representations of Griffith doesn't mean his view of him has changed. Furthermore the images are animal representations of both Griffith and Guts, so the use of the hawk seems more appropriate given the context of the page.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 290
« on: September 28, 2007, 08:12:04 PM »

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Also, as far as I'm concerned, there needs not be a one to one correspondence in time period the manga started in [with Casca in the Cave and Guts just wandering] and the anime start - for all we know the anime mistake  could have taken place after the whole Elfhelm saga we have yet to read.

It's statements like this that make my head want to explode. No offense but that makes no damn sense. By the way I don't see how the Berserk manga and the Berserk anime being injective (having a one to one correspondence) has any bearing in the order of events depicted there in - in fact I am not really sure you used that expression properly.

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Character Cove / Re: Schierke...in love?
« on: July 15, 2007, 10:55:52 PM »
Nevertheless Guts and Schierke would make a cute couple

I just vomited in my mouth.

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Character Cove / Re: Who is the sexiest girl?
« on: July 15, 2007, 10:54:06 PM »
this topic needs fewer pedophiles

The world needs fewer pedophiles... and by fewer I mean none.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Die Hard 4
« on: July 02, 2007, 06:56:56 AM »
  You can say one F-word in a PG-13 movie, and yet they chose to muffle the "fucker" part of "yippie kai yay mother" with a gun shot.

But you can't say Motherfucker without getting an R.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 285
« on: June 04, 2007, 10:31:49 PM »
It's called sarcasm. 

Some of you are wound pretty tightly.  Too bad.     

Since sarcasm is heavily dependant on verbal inflection it is kind of hard to identify it in text.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 285
« on: May 31, 2007, 05:58:37 AM »

   Now what's with the Christianity bashing.....


I don't really see how that is Christianity "bashing"... In fact I never bashed anything in that statement. I was merely being absurd.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 285
« on: May 30, 2007, 09:50:37 PM »
I think jepn30 misrepresented the situation a bit in spite of his good intentions since it's not just that people around here think the anime is meaningless: it actually is.

Well, you have me there, sir. I salute you.  I guess I wont try to soft pedal it next time.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 285
« on: May 30, 2007, 04:36:40 AM »
Well, maybe in the manga, but not in the anime.  The anime even showed the nobles plotting against Grif.  But the 'rape' was a bit of a surprise.  The anime certainly pointed to Guts being gone as to why Griffith lost it mentally, since he leaned on Guts more and more.  Casca got very jealous of that.  Griffith certainly wasn't careless like that prior and there was little other reason for it, other than he feelings about being seen as 'common'.  The whole Femto thing wasn't even introduced before the eclipse in the anime. 

Just a heads up: implying that the anime in any way supersedes the manga is a good way to piss off a lot of people here. Not saying you did, not saying you didn't - just saying the events in the anime mean jack shit to a number of people on these boards. It doesn't help that the anime pales in comparison to the manga, in both art and characterization.   

  Well, this must be another difference in the anime and manga (yes, I haven't read several of the early mangas).  They kept hitting the fact that Griffith would be king.  The forshadowing was given that he would not be because of his low blood.  Yet everything looked like he would otherwise.  I also got the impression from the anime that part of the reason he raped Charlotte was because he was very angry that he was still seen as a commoner by some and it seemed a bit like he was seeking revenge.  Sorry, just my take on it.  Again, the anime didn't allude to Femto in any way that I recall before the eclipse.

See above statement.

  That it seems to be a grinding, yet unstopable force (the new Hawks).  Considering I can see a vast set of storylines yet to be told, I figured Griffith would come back with the army complete and ready for him and swiftly assuming control of everything.  It seems that he wants to build suspense and prolong some of the story arcs and eliminate others all together.  So how about this, I'd have written them to do it faster and gone into other story arcs. 

Then I guess I am glad you aren't writing them.

 
I want a true demonstration of SK's power.  How about even a recap of an old conflict where he royally kicks some tail?  Throw me a frickin bone.  I want to see him pound/obliterate something.

Well there was the time he fought Jesus Christ to a stand still - in the controversial episode 83.5.

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Encyclopedia: Q&A / Re: Has Willow influenced Miura?
« on: May 22, 2007, 07:46:14 PM »
Willow was a friendly rated PG, while Berserk would be a crazed NC-17 borderlining Rated X.

That would be kind of difficult since 1) the X rating no longer exists 2) The NC-17 rating was created to replace it.

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News & Not News / Re: Virginia Tech shootings kill 32+ people
« on: April 21, 2007, 07:37:21 PM »
Best part is the students statement that she carried the flail because she needed protection.

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News & Not News / Re: Virginia Tech shootings kill 32+ people
« on: April 21, 2007, 06:29:25 AM »
Tell me about it . . .



This Shit is more Sickening then anything 4-chan could dream up: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Virginia_Tech_massacre. If only it were all a joke . . .

I find that image offensive, insulting, and insensitive. And I have a concealed handgun license.

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I really have no time to reply to this thread in the depth I'd like to, but I want to say this:

And I personally find Miura's reference to classic mythology at the same time as faithful and more unique than what Tolkien did.


I agree with you on both accounts. Though I think it is hard to judge the uniqueness of Tolkien's stories, when a large amount of modern fantasy (by no means all, nor am I specifying a majority) has been derived in whole or in part from his works. So Tolkien's work may have been quite unique for it's time but does not look very unique under in a retroactive sense.

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Speculation Nation / Re: What will Guts do?
« on: February 09, 2007, 11:44:35 PM »
    Even the original wielder, Aolsier, slayed a real dragon with it years before Guts picked it up, and it's still in good nick!

Aolsier isn't even a character, and no "Dragon" was slayed. Someones been reading too many scanlations.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Berserk on a motion picture?!?!?
« on: February 07, 2007, 07:19:21 AM »
If Berserk were ever a Hollywood film, they'd probably cast the git who played Anakin Skywalker as Guts, get Tarantino to direct it, replace the Dragonslayer with a "more realistic" sword (probably a Katana), throw out most of the storyline to make it more digestable for the average idiot, and make Griffith all butch. And that's assuming they didn't remove him altogether.

And we can't forget, all Hollywood heros with swords dual-wield... hello Guts with two swords.

No, probably not. There would be little point in licencing a relatively unknown property just to completely butcher it. It is not like Manga/anime adaptations are a super hot property (maybe after Battle Angel this will change - if it ever gets made). As for having Tarantino direct (not my first choice by any stretch) you can do alot worse - but it is doubtful that he would want to direct such a film in the first place.

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News & Not News / Re: RIP Saddam...
« on: February 05, 2007, 03:45:02 AM »
DUH!!! because he was a ungratful self serving gay bastard


So I take it he didn't give you a reach around? Just because he jilted you doesn't mean that you have to watch him die.

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Speculation Nation / Re: Berserk on a motion picture?!?!?
« on: February 05, 2007, 03:35:34 AM »
I can't think of anyone who could bring the right mix of psychotic rage, war like physique, and self doubt to Guts and remain a sympathetic character.


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Speculation Nation / Re: Berserk nearly over? Or only halfway done?
« on: February 05, 2007, 03:17:38 AM »
Because it's round? I don't really think Miura's going to compromise the story so the ending volume number is nice and "even."

It is in the best interest of your mental health not to question skullgrin's (il)logic and reasoning.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies To Look Forward to
« on: January 06, 2007, 06:50:58 AM »
I saw Smoking Aces about 3 or 4 weeks at a pre-screening. Pretty entertaining, it had some flaws (certain plot points just didn't work for me). Solid action, worth a look if you like the crime/action Genre with a healthy helping of gore.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Weird. Peter Jackson.
« on: December 29, 2006, 07:00:51 PM »
Personally I really enjoyed them, but they were still deeply flawed films. We will see how they hold up over time.
Can I just say here, I am really Angry that Peter Jackson wont be able to Direct The Hobbit and I might be happy if he manages to get back in and try and Direct it.

Yes and we all know that the first thing on Jackson's mind is to make you happy.

But even though Peter Jackson is a Superb Director who made the LOTR Trilogy into a True Masterpeice amoung film as we know it.

 You really need to see more film. Superb Director and a True Masterpiece - I think I just vomited in my mouth.



...Jacksuck... Entirely Overrated ... OverUsed ... The Circular Pan. Also, Every Single Scene/

Jackson Can Eat a Bag of Hell.

I agree with some of what you said (though  I enjoyed the films). But what the fuck is a bag of hell?

I would actually love to see someone else try and direct The Hobbit. I would like to see Ridley Scott Direct the movie, Because he Directed Legend Only if he Uses Ian McKellen as Gandalf and Andy Serkis as Gollum and Weta is involved in this movie, I am sure it will be a success

You'd be angry if he doesn't do it. You'd love to see someone else do it. The words stream of consciousness come to mind every time I read one of your mystifying paragraphs. You really should write a novel.

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