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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 05, 2017, 08:54:04 AM »
Thanks Hitoshura. The cover looks Ok to me, though it's hard to tell from such a tiny picture.

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Every once in a while I suggest the entire Star Trek canon, only half jokingly. :sad:

She should watch it because of the socio-cultural impact it has had over the years. :azan:

(that's the best I've got)

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After two decades of catching random reruns and marathons I'm binge watching SVU with my wife... there's like 10,000 episodes of this morbid shit. :magni:

My wife and I are re-watching all episodes of The Twilight Zone. That's how refined we are. :badbone:

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 30, 2017, 09:36:27 AM »
Miura's comment for this episode: "The elves in this volume should be seen with a loupe. " (a magnifying glass)

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: May 29, 2017, 06:03:49 PM »
(or someone filming themselves turning pages in the manga)

That would inarguably be a superior experience to what they've produced so far.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 28, 2017, 11:41:01 AM »
Small Casca saying she wants to see someone without specifying who and the girls assuming she means Guts tells me that it won't be him

It's Guts.

Miura could literally do another manga based in the same world a tell a infinite amount of stories that doesn't involve the main cast.

You're missing the point.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: What are you reading?
« on: May 28, 2017, 10:33:32 AM »
Recently discovered Metabarons and The Incal by Alexandro Jodorowsky.

The Incal is great and a must-read but personally I would not recommend The Metabarons.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: May 27, 2017, 10:07:44 AM »
The series feels both cheap, and weighted down by being a nearly 1:1 adaptation to the manga. It really is faithful to a fault. Hate on the Golden age films all you want, but the creative license in their scenes made them feel cinematic while this just feels clunky.

This isn't garbage because it's faithful. It's garbage because it's garbage. The reason they mostly stick to pseudo-still frames (badly copied from the manga) is because they lack not just the budget but the actual skill to produce animation. That's why you get stuff that looks like it's from Macromedia Studio MX. These people are clearly amateurs and not very good ones. The most obvious example of this is the pacing that they consistently get wrong, to a point where it pretty much becomes a parody.

Similarly, the movies weren't less clunky because they were less faithful. They just had more talented animators (still pretty shitty ones though) and a bigger budget. Strict adhesion to specific panels of the manga was never the problem people had with them, it was the fact they didn't retell the story properly. That's what people mean by "being faithful": retelling the story without mangling it. Not adding stupid shit and not removing important parts. That was the movies' cardinal sin. I'm amazed that we're still talking about this in 2017. It's not exactly hard to understand.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 27, 2017, 08:45:47 AM »
I'm actually getting worried it'll be over too soon now that we know Miura isn't bluffing with this Casca thing. Guts has berserk armor, Griffith has his kingdom, Casca's getting her mind back... there's not a lot left on the major to-do list but to tie it all up the loose ends and put those three (or more depending on how you count Griff =) in the same room together.

Yep. I've been saying so for years: getting to Elfhelm and finally having Casca regain her mind is the biggest turning point of the series. We're reaching the mountain's summit and preparing for a frenetic descent towards the end of the story. Up until now, Miura has mostly been opening new "threads", by which I mean he has been expanding the story with new elements. Some threads were tied, but not too many. But soon we will switch gears and he will start closing the story down and tying all those threads. Some new elements may still be introduced, but comparatively less, and with a shorter lifespan. Meanwhile we will be getting closure for more and more things. Major apostles will die, major mysteries will be revealed, major developments will take place... All focusing towards a single point: the ending.

For the long-time fan, this moment should actually be bittersweet. It is the end of an era of endless possibilities where it felt like Berserk could go in any direction, seemingly forever. And while it won't be happening too quickly, given the current publishing schedule, it might be faster than we expect. Whether Miura will take the time to show us the intricacies of Fantasia and to have the group undergo a bunch of adventures on the way to Falconia is strictly up to him. It could take twenty volumes for the group to reach Griffith, or ten volumes, or five. Because we're at such a crucial point in the story, there's just no way to know.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 26, 2017, 04:37:59 PM »
Anyway, regarding the actual story, I ask myself if SK could appear after Casca's ritual unfolds. He has his ways of climbing steep rocks, huge towers, flying his horse and appearing when least expected.

I do expect him to visit at some point.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 26, 2017, 03:35:41 PM »
whatever else happens here Elfhelm will ultimately be "the place we got Casca back," and what could be better than that?

Indeed.

It would be cool to know more about Miura's process, because the story is so big, complex, yet detailed and nuanced there's really so many different directions he could go.

I'm sure a lot of professional writers would like to as well. :void:

I think what the constant or casual complainers don't realize is that Miura is weaving a much more difficult yarn than just Guts going around bashing stuff until he gets to Griffith, and that even they wouldn't care so much about the bashing without those things, which are what gives the story, even the mayhem, its depth rather than distracting or detracting from it.

Call me cynical but at this point (after dealing with it for 15 years basically) I don't think these people are really capable of appreciating the story.

imagine if instead of the Golden Age flashback the Black Swordsman had just gone on slaying more Snake monsters until he reached the evil bird guy (like some basically keep advocating for). I don't think I'd still be following. =)

More importantly, the story would have been over 20 years ago!

Well, no negativity for the story, but definitely for morons. :ganishka:

:iva:

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 26, 2017, 02:10:37 PM »
I must have confused the sprite moving frantically with multiples for each memory, or parts of her ego.

Ah yeah, indeed, it's a decomposed animation.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 26, 2017, 12:01:39 PM »
Anyway, I should just explain that I didn't think that Griffith is more important to Casca's mind than Guts, just that at one point he was, and considering the missing piece, the Casca's sprite could be at that point. In retrospect, it probably wasn't the greatest idea.

I get where you're coming from, but it just feels like an odd conclusion to reach given the context. Both this episode and the previous one feature memories that put Guts front and center, and in this one specifically we see Farnese reflect on Casca's relationships with both Guts and Griffith. Even though the Eclipse-related fragments haven't been recovered yet, at that point Casca was very much in love with Guts. Miura basically walks the reader through how that love was formed and how strong it is, and the episode ends with Farnese telling the Sprite that the one she wants to meet also wants to meet her. Seems pretty clear-cut.

Has anyone brought up the condition of this last sprite or any of them?   I believe this last one will be very weak or even try to get away from the crew.  Especially where we're headed.

There's only one sprite actually, what they find each time are fragments of the broken doll (one fragment for one memory). But it's the same sprite that they first found, only it has evolved as they fixed up the doll. It represents Casca's current ego.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 26, 2017, 09:50:41 AM »
Do you think that Farnese and Schierke can really get hurt a lot when they'll get around the eclipse and stuff (mentally speaking) or Danan would intervine somehow?

There's probably a measure of real danger, and the experience will likely take a toll on them, at least emotionally. We'll see.

I am kind of opposed to Danan directly intervening. I think I would rather see Schierke and Farnese achieve their goal without direct help from her. It's also possible that I'm completely misunderstanding exactly what's going on in Casca's dream.  :ganishka:

Danan's doing quite a lot already. She's the one that allowed them to penetrate Casca's mind, and she's the one guiding them through it, towards the fragments and their ultimate goal. They couldn't have done anything if it weren't for her.

Nicely said, and I think it's a fair to point out that after all this time there was almost no way Elfhelm itself, though it's appropriately fantastical and fun too, could live up to our anticipation, but that's because it was merely a destination for the journey, and the real end of that journey, the payoff we've been anticipating for much longer, 25 volumes, is what were seeing now.

I don't know, personally I found that Elfhelm squarely met my expectations. The island's just an island, sure (duh), but the giant cherry tree, the overwhelming diversity of elves and their crazy whimsical behavior is a perfect fit for what I imagined. I also think Danan is brilliant as the Sovereign of the Flower Storm, and the Great Gurus haven't disappointed either so far. Hell, even the young witches are cool, and I thought the introductory fight was pretty badass. Frankly I don't think there's anything more I would have wanted except I guess more two page spreads of the scenery? But that pretty much goes for every single episode ever.

It's interesting, when Puck first proposed going to Elfhelm over 15 volumes ago, it was just to find a safe place since Godot's mine was destroyed, it wasn't suggested Casca could actually be cured there until much later, and so became about that. I wonder if Miura always intended it that way but wanted to reveal it in due time, or if, as the story progressed and expanded (say, for example, if he intended Elfhelm to be an earlier stop and stepping stone), he realized that the journey for a safe haven and Casca's recovery should be one and the same.

This is something I've often thought about in the past. What I'll say is that for as long as I've read Berserk, I've been convinced Guts would not simply drop her off and be on his way. It just felt inevitable that she would be cured. So to me the Skull Knight's words in volume 28 were only a confirmation in a sense (though I was still overjoyed to read it).

I honestly don't believe he intended for the distance between trauma and cure to be so lengthy but he discovered how his story needs to unfold.  I feel it shows a lot of courage to take one of your main characters out of the mix for so long because it serves the story rather than the expectations of the fans.

Yeah, one thing that's clear is he's not afraid of taking the time he needs to tell the story as he feels it should be. The biggest example of this is the Golden Age arc, which is probably one of the longest flashbacks ever told in a work of fiction.

I remember all the negativity about the voyage across the sea and the term filler being thrown around with reckless abandon.  I'm not trying to go down a rabbit hole but it is just so crazy that our patience is about to be rewarded handsomely.

For the record, there was no negativity on this forum. It's important to understand that the people who complained about the sea journey were morons. Morons have complained about the series for as long as it has existed. They complained about volume 24 and the expansion of magic in the series. They complained about the Berserk's armor. They endlessly complained about Vritannis and the Kushans' invasion, ceaselessly asking "when will they get on the damn boat!". And predictably, when the party embarked on the Sea Horse towards Elfhelm, those same idiots immediately complained about how the trip took too long. Which is not true, by the way, it didn't take too long. The voyage was pretty fucking cool all things considered, and the bulk of it was actually spent on land, investigating the Sea God's island. Ten years from now you'll find people telling you that's their favorite part of the series. Anyway, the morons also complained about Fantasia and Falconia, and now they're no doubt complaining about Elfhelm.

What you should understand is that those who couldn't enjoy the journey will also not enjoy the destination. They're the same people who just wanted Guts to leave Casca somewhere and for his companions to die. They're those who said he would use the beherit to become an apostle so he could better fight Zodd. They're those who thought Casca would join Griffith so that Guts would be extra-betrayed and extra-angry. What we all feel so strongly about, the imminent return of a beloved character, probably just bores them. They don't see why it's so important, nor how strongly it will impact the story. They surely have stupid expectations for it that will, as per usual, not be met. And cause more complaining.

In short, they're the ones who don't get it. They never did and they never will. So feel free to enjoy this moment, but do not bother trying to relate it to those complaints or to rationalize them. You'll just be disappointed.

I feel like it's Griffith, but I'm thinking Guts.
I also feel that the person the Casca-sprite wants to see is Griffith. It seems that the fragments of Casca also signify parts of her memories, and the part that's missing (the brand) indicates that mini-Casca is not aware of what Griffith would become.

Are we reading the same manga? I'm baffled. Do the memories shown to us so far indicate that Griffith is more central to Casca's mind than Guts? [Hint: it does not.] Even Farnese and Schierke, who have been experiencing her feelings, both conclude that the Sprite surely means Guts. What more do you guys want?

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 25, 2017, 09:01:03 PM »
As I already said the memories of Griffith's downfall are sure to make an appearance at the hellish peak

Well yeah, it's only logical that the events leading up to the Eclipse would be featured as they reach the mountain symbolizing the Eclipse... That being said, there's no certainty regarding what will be shown. Miura could very well decide to skip the smaller stuff, especially since it doesn't speak as much to Farnese and Schierke (as opposed to Casca's love story with Guts).

swamp Cthulu

The Lord of Rotting Roots.

It would be an apt time for a God Hand member to appear, since we know they can enter dreams and cast impressions onto different world planes, however this is just wishful thinking on my part.

I really don't think it would make any sense for the real Femto to appear. His presence will already be overwhelming through Casca's memories and whatever adversarial manifestations her mind comes up with.
The only member of the God Hand for whom it would be coherent to show up is Ubik. But even then I don't think it'd be proper, given the context. It would detract from the hard enough task of fixing Casca's mind, and would alter how we perceive the nature of her trauma.

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Bruh...Count me in.  https://youtu.be/iIMrFnl5NiA.  Strangely, this Castlevania animation looks a little better than a certain series most recent adaption.  :troll:

Haha yeah I saw the trailer yesterday, and why not? I'm down. The narration and all reminded me of Lords of Shadow's trailer, which isn't a bad thing considering it was by far the best thing about the game. However I hope the anime is closer to the roots of the series.

Animation looks good. I'm down. Seems like Dracula's Curse will be the setting. I wonder what elements they'll incorporate into the show. I'd really like to hear a few of the original tracks slipped into the music, especially "The Beginning".

We better get some classic tracks from the games! :azan: (And yeah it looks like CV3)

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 25, 2017, 07:28:32 AM »
Truly amazing.  I can't add much that hasn't been said already, but one thing making me curious is the pace.  We could be at that last piece next episode,  :femto: or perhaps the next few episodes.  Hard to tell.  Our Casca is almost back.

My guess is there's about three episodes left. Volume 39 will end on one hell of a cliffhanger.

I think there's going to be plenty of Griffith soon enough, and there's rightfully so much shine on Casca, Guts, Farnese, and Schierke in this episode that it almost distracts from the fact that soon they'll be informed about Griffith's character and current relationship to Guts and Casca in the most stark way possible.

Yep...

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 24, 2017, 08:29:00 PM »
I'd say that is the sole most important point of this episode.

I'd say Farnese's reactions and mindset throughout the episode are pretty important too.

It's the first time we see Casca expressing herself with words. Sure, she didn't physically say them, but I'd say that's even better, because they couldn't express anything but a deep and true feeling inside her dreams. We got a very good clue on what, as SK would say, she really wants.

You're right, but keep in mind her psyche hasn't been completely fixed yet. The final piece(s) might radically alter how she feels. What they're about to face is what broke her (and created that world) in the first place.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 24, 2017, 07:42:54 PM »
Could there be a possibility that the person Casca wants to see is either the Moonlight Boy or Griffith?

No, not really. It's obviously Guts, as Farnese and Schierke point out at the end of the episode. And even without that, really, it's pretty clear given the memories we've been shown.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 24, 2017, 04:16:55 PM »
I'm not sure if it's just my imagination, but even more so in this episode I feel a sense of urgency and excitement directly from Miura through his art.  It's almost as if he is exceptionally enthusiastic about what's coming next and can't wait to show the readers.  Certainly it would be cool to see a few unique scenes and some more episodes in this dream sequence, but it's fun seeing Miura this passionate about his work (not that he isn't always passionate!).  It's a great time to be reading Bersesrk.  :guts:

Hahaha, I think you're projecting quite a bit here. :slan:
That being said, these certainly are exciting times to be a Berserk fan. But when hasn't it been? :void:

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 24, 2017, 02:55:08 PM »
On page 14, where Farnese put the love memory piece on the doll, it is shown a different monster from the ones before, and on the page after it seems as if it was following from distance the girls and the dog. I'm not sure if it's going to be relevant in the next episodes, as an attempt of Casca's conflicted feelings to thwart her own recovery, or if i'm just reading too much into it.

I don't think this specific monster is going to be relevant, to me it's just there to show how varied the critters are and how much travel the girls do (through different locations inhabited by different creatures).

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 24, 2017, 02:08:42 PM »
A Golden Age highlights reel! So many scenes here, recast with Miura's current pen.

Indeed. A small regret is that we didn't see any memories highlighting events we didn't already know of. But I guess it makes sense if we think of the fragments as being related to the cause of all this.

It's finally happening Farnese and Schierke are learning about Guts' past by way of learning about Casca's. Isidro is going to be so jealous when he finds out what he missed...  :isidro:

Yep! It's exactly what I expected and I think it really makes perfect sense for future developments. It'll allow the girls to emphasize with Casca in a way that just knowing about Guts' past from his own perspective wouldn't. What I'm curious about is whether the group as a whole will eventually talk some more about Griffith (beyond what Guts shared with the gurus).

Huh, what a strange notion... So familiar, somehow.  :badbone:

Haha, I have to say that I'm pretty happy this episode confirms everything I've always said about Casca's feelings for Griffith and Farnese' feeling for Guts (and how they're similar to one another). :guts:

I was somewhat surprised Farnese didn't put 2+2 together when she saw Griffith in the memories. Afterall, she saw Griffith in Albion, and heard Guts speak his name. Too bad... Guess it wasn't the right moment.

Yeah, both Farnese and Schierke have seen him, and they also both know from Guts' own mouth that he used to know him. I agree with you, I think it just wasn't the time. He's going to take center stage very soon, after all...

Certainly -- design elements of slan and the apostle who kills Judo are abstractly visible. It's like a glimpse of what we could see up on the mountain.

Yup... I quite liked the variety of critters we saw in this episode, and their uniqueness too. You'd think after 25 years Miura would be out of new designs to explore but I quite love all of these, with special mention to the, um, "tentacled balls".

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 24, 2017, 01:27:32 PM »
Here's a rough translation based on the Korean scans, courtesy of puella. Be warned that it may contain some inaccuracies.

Page 1

Farnese: Teacher, look over there!
Farnese: A sword and a helmet
Schierke: It seems so

Farnese: A boy?
Schierke: Who is he?

Page 2

Farnese: ...Ah, this is Guts when he was young?
Farnese: He's fighting...
Farnese: Why?

Farnese: The feeling transferred to me...
Farnese: Casca's strong fighting spirit

Casca: I'm going to die!

Page 3

Farnese: The doll is again...
Schierke: This is the way, no doubt...

Schierke: Let's continue to put the fragments together at this pace
Farnese: Yes! Let's do your best, dog-Guts

Page 4

Schierke: This is...
Farnese: A battle flag

Farnese: A battle...!?
Farnese: As expected, Casca was a warrior

Farnese: What is he? A shark-knight? Casca is annoyed.

Farnese: She's filled with a sense of solidarity with her comrades, as well as feelings of fulfillment and elevation that she accomplished her responsabilities

Page 5

Farnese: A sword again
Farnese: This is a different one

Griffith: "Do you think you're chosen by god just because you were born a noble?"
Griffith: "If you have something to protect, take the sword"

Farnese: Ah, this feeling, it's as if I got hit on the head (it's overwhelming)
Farnese: It's similar to what I conceive towards Guts

Farnese: Now there's some change in Casca

Page 6

Farnese: What are they? Plants?
Farnese: Actually, they look like insects

Farnese: As expected...
Schierke: They're going to attack us

Schierke: This is our chance

Page 7

Farnese: A chandelier is coming down from the sky
Schierke: It's a dream indeed

Farnese: A banquet?
Schierke: An enormous number of people

"Knights of the White Phoenix... Griffith, the White Phoenix General"

Farnese: Embarrassment? A burst of joy? A moment of glory with her comrades.
Farnese: ...But what's this one? A kind of anxiety and dreariness that she can't shake?
Farnese: Now that person has fallen?
Schierke: She felt a very strong agitation

Page 8

Farnese: A cave?

Farnese: Impatience? Anger and jealousy towards Guts?

Farnese: Why...
Farnese: ...This feeling is...

Page 9

Schierke: ...A broken sword
Farnese: The two are going to fight

Guts: Bye
Casca: Griffith...
Casca: G...
Casca: Guts...

Farnese: That feeling of powerlessness that she can't intervene between the two. That heartrending and heartbreaking feeling... And looking at his back... this deep feeling... as expected...

Page 10

Schierke: Hairballs?
Farnese: Yikes... horrible...
Schierke: It's probable that Casca doesn't accept this well physiologically

Schierke: Quick, come out, Lady of the Depths

Page 11

Farnese: A waterfall coming from the air?
Farnese: We're not surprised anymore no matter what we see

Farnese: These two are fighting again

Page 12-13

Farnese: Teacher, you shouldn't see this
Schierke: Ahh, but it could be useful for future reference...!

Farnese: As I expected, yeah, they were...
Farnese: No, this is what I knew from the beginning

Page 14

Farnese: An exhuberant feeling...
Farnese: Love, melancholy
Farnese: Yes, this overwhelming feeling, from all her heart, is Casca's mind...
Farnese: Her own...

Page 15

Schierke's face... She also felt it

Schierke: There's still a long way to go...
Schierke: Let's go

In the vast crepuscular darkness, our journey goes on

Page 18-19

Farnese: One month... Maybe one year? Or it feels like it's not even been one day.
Farnese: How long has it been?

Schierke: I don't know. Since the passage of time doesn't exist in dreams.
Schierke: But there aren't many empty parts left in this doll. I think the end of our journey is near.

Schierke: And I think we are being led to the spiky mountain. I guess that's our final destination.
Schierke: It's filled with an enormously thick/strong malevolent aura
Schierke: That probably symbolizes the main cause that scattered Casca's mind

Schierke: The closer we approach, we'll encounter enemies that are much stronger than the enemies we've met, that can't even be compared with them

Page 20

Schierke: Stay alert and keep your chin up
Farnese: Yes!

Farnese: She's trembling...?
Farnese: It's alright, everything will be Ok

Farnese: Huh?
Farnese: Teacher, this girl is saying something
Schierke: I think it's because we've put a lot of fragments together

Sprite: There's somebody I want to meet

Page 21

Farnese: The one she wants to meet, that is...
Schierek: For sure...

Sprite: I want to meet him
Farnese: I'll let you meet this person, for sure
Farnese: Because it's what he also wants

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 24, 2017, 11:29:38 AM »
the golems vs the "spiders" is pretty neat. Reminds me of the weird spiders Inside the sea god.

I had the same thought, the design is close.

Ps: correct me if I'm wrong but is that the shape of the "yin yan" apostle we see in the background just before the splash page with the montage?

I don't think it's meant to be the exact same thing, but yes it's similar to it. Close enough that I don't think it's a coincidence, same with the Slan-like creatures I mentioned above.

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