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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re:Get all your Berserk scans here!!!!!!!
« on: January 29, 2003, 01:38:25 AM »
Some secret organization like illuminati that's in every plot theory, MJ12 means Majestic 12.

The patriots thing in MGS2 comes mainly from that kind of stuff.

Speculation Nation / Re:Griffith the enchanter
« on: January 29, 2003, 01:30:38 AM »
Since the apostles' powers come from the God Hand, I doubt even Zodd will ever be able to fight against them.

By the way, I think that they may not simply follow Griffith because they want to, but to some extent also because they've got no choice, remember how Zodd lost his horn...

Speculation Nation / Re:Explain the prophocy.
« on: January 27, 2003, 12:31:20 AM »
Flora is probably the most informing character in all of Berserk.  After her many explanations I think she is the most trustworthy, but she is friends with Skully.  Does that make Skully trustworthy despite his mysterious nature?

Besides that, Skully still saved Guts & Casca from the Eclipse... I believe he could manipulate them, but I doubt him to be a real enemy.

Speculation Nation / Re:Explain the prophocy.
« on: January 26, 2003, 05:47:07 PM »
The messenger is the hawk of darkness. The hawk is the master of the sinful black sheep, and the king of the blind white sheep. The one who will bring the age of darkness.

That matches the translation I've got.

Speculation Nation / Re:Explain the prophocy.
« on: January 26, 2003, 01:54:26 PM »
I may be wrong about this, but didn't the Knights of the Holy Chain refer to Guts as the dark hawk way back in Volume 15-17 (can't remember which volume)?  I think they also refered to the visions from the collective dream as the White Hawk.
A.  Can we trust the collective vission?  I wouldn't
B.  What makes you think we can trust The Church's doctrine.  They are opposed to witches who seem to have a good understanding of reality.  That is, if we can trust what Flora says.  She could just be making stuff up.

It seems counter-intuitive for Guts to be light and Griffith to be dark.  I figure that the hawk of darkness will save the world, and the hawk of light will take the credit.  Historicly at least.

A. Agreed
B. I'd trust Flora over any other character in Berserk...

I don't know who'll save what, I think Miura's still got some surprises for us.

Speculation Nation / Re:Explain the prophocy.
« on: January 25, 2003, 11:16:43 PM »
**Once again, the translation I have**

Well, same here, so I guess I'll have to consider both. :-\

Speculation Nation / Re:Explain the prophocy.
« on: January 25, 2003, 03:21:56 PM »
From my faulty memory...
When we first see Schierke, she is looking in on griffith.  I think she refers to him as the light hawk, and needs to seek out the dark hawk.

Hmm, I don't remember precisely but doesn't she refer to him as the Hawk of Darkness?

Shootin' the Breeze / Re:not a point, a question.
« on: January 25, 2003, 02:33:33 PM »
Zelda 3 is a very good game, but Secret of Mana is even better, IMHO. Back then Squaresoft really were the best.

Speculation Nation / Re:trolls
« on: January 24, 2003, 10:01:35 PM »
when he ate the Beherit of the big Beherit with legs right after fighting him, it was still able to acomplish what it wanted to do

True. I think like Wereallmad that SK's eating beherits to take them out of circulation, so that their next "destined user" can't reach them and become an apostle.

Speculation Nation / Re:trolls
« on: January 24, 2003, 07:21:34 PM »
Ok for Polymorph Other, but the apostles' ability to transform is more like an evil blessing than a curse, and it doesn't look like it can be "cured". Maybe Skully can interfere with the process by eating beherits... Hmm, probably not.

Speculation Nation / Re:Could this happen?
« on: January 24, 2003, 06:24:43 PM »
Gutzs is the sacrificed, so it rules him out..

Being sacrificed doesn't necesarily mean you cant use the beherit. The Beherit Apostle sacrificed himself along with the world.

But I do agree that the Beherit is not meant for Guts.

Being already sacrificed when using the beherit and sacrificing yourself while using it isn't the same, the beherit-apostle wasn't sacrificed when he used it, do you see what i mean ?

Btw, I'm sure Puella has something to say about this ;)

Speculation Nation / Re:trolls
« on: January 23, 2003, 11:11:33 PM »
Polymorph means shapeshift (not necessarily human to animal). Anyway, I guess D&D's polymorphism spells could be compared to an apostle's transformation in a way, though they only last a few moments and can be canceled. Unlike apostles and related creatures (e.g. the kids from the Lost Children chapter) who only turned back to their human forms once dead.

Speculation Nation / Re:Explain the prophocy.
« on: January 23, 2003, 11:02:29 PM »
The white hawk is a symbol that appeared in a world-sized collective dream, as the savior who'll restore peace etc, Griffith is acting this way, and the dream is probably his doing.

There's also an old prophecy who talks about a dark hawk, evil and all, and that's  most likely Griff, he's only deceiving people with his white and shining armor.

Speculation Nation / Re:Could this happen?
« on: January 23, 2003, 01:09:33 PM »
You need to click on the link in the upper right corner of the post you want to quote Mokred.

Balzac wasn't proposed to become a godhand member, just an apostle, his beherit was blue (should have been green). Like Shinhell9 said Balzac used the same beherit than the mandragora boy, Rita brought it to him without knowing.

Character Cove / Re:Skull Knight the watcher
« on: January 21, 2003, 09:56:00 PM »
Flora in episode 201 say that she had a revelation from a friend in the realm of the dead, and that friend is most likely SK, so my guess is that he died somehow and stayed in the ethearal realm, struggling for life and revenge, then he met flora or another 'good' entity who allowed him to come back in the 'real' world...
Time spent there would've destroyed his human body, that's a good way to explain it I think.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re:Get all your Berserk scans here!!!!!!!
« on: January 20, 2003, 05:13:22 PM »
Have you heard of the MJ12?

Speculation Nation / Re:Real Owner of the Beherit
« on: January 08, 2003, 11:25:17 PM »
I was just addressing a problem with the logic used in Majin Tenshi's previous post... I did read your post before posting myself. :)

Character Cove / Re:Guts
« on: January 08, 2003, 02:14:51 AM »
If Guts ended up killing Grifith would he stop there? so really is guts the "Hero" of Berserk?

I'd say yes x 2.

Guts isn't a stereotyped hero, but the way miura tells us the story, he's the hero, fighting alone against evil, etc.

Speculation Nation / Re:Skull Knight theory...
« on: January 08, 2003, 12:44:36 AM »
SK's hands look like steel gauntlets, so I wonder if those thorns can really hurt him...

In any case, the pairing of roses and bones remains very enigmatic & interesting to me to this day.

Speculation Nation / Re:Real Owner of the Beherit
« on: January 08, 2003, 12:32:57 AM »
I don't see why a sacrifice can't sacrifice something.  The Beherit apostle sacrificed himself (it has a brand).

The beherit-apostle sacrificing himself and an already sacrificed being sacrificing something isn't the same, when the beherit-apostle sacrificed himself he was still "pure".

Also because the world around him was not a thing that the beherit apostle loved particularly since it had make of him a outcast.

True, but the world around him was also the only thing he had, so maybe it still was important to him regardless...

Shootin' the Breeze / Re:Rain
« on: January 07, 2003, 11:30:40 PM »
Tornadoes... That must be quite impressive to see.

Speculation Nation / Re:Real Owner of the Beherit
« on: January 07, 2003, 04:04:39 PM »
Why not? :P

And then what about Slan?

Speculation Nation / Re:Real Owner of the Beherit
« on: January 07, 2003, 02:00:07 PM »
As far as I remember, all the God Hand can do is to transform an apostle's body and to give him or her supernatural powers, they can't do something more abstract like giving Griffith a kingdom. So they manage to allow people to realize their dreams by giving them enough power to do the job by themselves.

Shootin' the Breeze / Re:Rain
« on: January 06, 2003, 07:37:23 PM »
Snowing here too. ;)
Haven't seen this in a long time.

Character Cove / Re:Guts vs SK
« on: December 30, 2002, 12:20:52 AM »
Guts has hope against Zodd even in Apostle form (in the american version of the DC game, when Guts and Zodd stop fighting, Guts is short breathed and Zodd isn't though), but SK is way stronger imo, he's fast and seems to cut anything without any resistance, i can't remember a scene where he can't slice something.

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