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Speculation Nation / Re:Is Guts still human ?
« on: February 02, 2004, 02:07:18 PM »
Hmmm... so he is not going against Griffith anymore... i doubt that will really happen

Yeah, I also doubt it, but that's what Guts said and what he's doing now.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Volume 26
« on: February 02, 2004, 12:54:23 PM »
I mentionned the 2 added pages here and provided pictures already.

As for the credits in their scanlations, on one side it's good that they finally credit the true translators, while on another side they never asked the mentionned people before using their work, and maybe they should apologize for not crediting them for years.

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Speculation Nation / Re:Is Guts still human ?
« on: February 02, 2004, 12:38:05 PM »
He isn't heading there to live, he's going to drop Casca off these because after Godo's cave was destroyed there were no places which he could leave Casca due to the fact demons would appear at night and attack her and she couldn't defend herself.

Please read the manga. Guts isn't going to drop Casca there, he isn't going to let her alone anymore.

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Speculation Nation / Re:Theory of Ganishka
« on: January 31, 2004, 12:44:34 AM »
I don't know that guy named Ravan, can you introduce him please ??

He meant Raban.

SK.net's FAQ

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Berserk Merchandise / Berserk TCG Edition Volume 2
« on: January 30, 2004, 04:04:50 PM »
The second edition of the Berserk TCG featuring 64 new cards will come out in Japan on march 25.

They should renew their stock of volume 1 boosters at the same time.

It'll be made of 24 common cards, 20 uncommon, 20 rare and 20 rare parallel (shiny looking).

Here's the official link.

They made a SK illustrated one this time 8).

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Encyclopedia: Q&A / Re:Can anyone help me out here?
« on: January 30, 2004, 12:41:10 PM »
I would guess the first one would be art for his new card game (maybe cover?), the picture is drawn in the approximate dimensions of a card

It's not from the Trading Cards Game.

But if it is, i would have to guess that it would be from one of his art books.

It's from the Illustration File, like the first one.

It's the Italian version.

Yeah, the first edition which consists of half volumes. That one should be the second part of volume 9.

That is Silat and the opponent which was defeated by him... if you remember Silat defeat him before Guts challenge him.

Yup.

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Speculation Nation / Re:Wyndam Restored?
« on: January 29, 2004, 05:49:02 PM »
When Griffith first appeared before the Kushan general, Schierke took a glance at him and named him the Black Hawk. So who exactly will be the White Hawk? Perhaps a certain black swordsman, we know?  ;)

Griffith is both the Hawk of Light and Darkness, actually he's the only Hawk. This has been explained several times already.

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Current Episodes / Re:Episode 234~~~WarcraftIII..:)
« on: January 29, 2004, 02:07:39 PM »
Whatever it is...there is something because there is a connection with what Schierke saw as a wizard and Slann being hurt

Schierke is a witch, not a wizard.

As for the Dragon Slayer's aura, we've only got vague informations and I think it's deliberate from Miura.

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Current Episodes / Re:Episode 234~~~WarcraftIII..:)
« on: January 29, 2004, 01:49:30 PM »
it could be the same thing we are talking about it, ain't it?
I don't care if it is "the Shadow" or "the Darkness"... there is something over there and that's what matters

What's sure is that it's not either "the Shadow" nor "the Darkness", as Mizar stated above.

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Shootin' the Breeze / Re:new!!!!!!!
« on: January 29, 2004, 10:15:32 AM »
I better not see my scans on there. If I do, I really wont scan anymore.

Scans

So what now ?

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Femto/Griffith
« on: January 28, 2004, 12:56:04 AM »
Since I'm such a good minded person, I'll give you a "proof" you can understand. Here's Eirias' translation of Volume 22, compare it with your scanlations, it's the same word by word.

It's not the specific part you were talking about, but I hope it should be enough for you to understand what a 5yo child would have already, and that you won't ask for every original translation, because noone here's gonna trace them all for you.

Now will you believe that the translation you used a while ago was wrong, or should someone take pictures of a Japanese/English dictionnary for you ?

actually im curious and would like to find out if it was true or not, but such strong accusations are not a light matter so forgive me if i dont sway easy.

Yet you won't even look into that yourself, so other people have to literally give you what you could find by yourself with just comparing what's in the translation section of that site and your scanlations.

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Character Cove / Re:Who sacrificed Gaiseric's capital and why?
« on: January 27, 2004, 04:16:28 PM »
That has absolutely nothing to do with why his face is the way it is. I have no idea why he has 12 fingers.

I was referring to what you said about the pointlessness of choosing to get the face he has and that he could have got his additionnal fingers during his transmigration.

Griffith gets a choice in the lost chapter. I can only assume that Void & the other GH members had a similar encounter.

Griffith just asked for wings, and his crippled body got cured while his helmet apparently melted with him, along with other changes. Now look at the case of the Beherit-like apostle.

That's what I meant by their wishes being granted subjectively, it's not like they choose what will change and what won't.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Femto/Griffith
« on: January 27, 2004, 03:02:56 PM »
this is going nowhere.

Yeah, obviously you're not faking your idiocy.

what evidence to you have to suggest that the hawks translation of skull knights speech in volume 13, chapter 12 is wrong.

The evidence I have is that I am in possession of the original manga by Kentarô Miura, and that the line in question by Dokuro no Kishi isn't the one you used.

Ranemaka's translation is correct, I showed it to you, I can't do much more.

no one has yet answer the question with any reliable evidence.

What evidence do you need? Take Japanese lessons, buy the original manga, and read that line yourself since you won't believe what other people are saying.

I'll drop the arguing on that topic since you're not getting it anyway.

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Character Cove / Re:Who sacrificed Gaiseric's capital and why?
« on: January 27, 2004, 02:18:52 PM »
Well, are you implying that Void CHOSE to have his face look like this? If so, then it would seem pretty pointless.. unless he was indeed tortured.

Yeah, but at the same time, what's the need for extra fingers ? I doubt him to play piano on his free time ::).

As to why he would keep it. Not enough information to suggest anything.

Exactly, and as far as we know, he could as well have asked for it. Who said he had the choice anyway ? People's wishes seem to be granted subjectively in the Berserk world...

I am not sure you are trying to make the same point or the opposite one.

Well, my point is just that there's not enough information to tell for sure.

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Character Cove / Re:Who sacrificed Gaiseric's capital and why?
« on: January 27, 2004, 11:17:00 AM »
but why would he choose to do that unless he chose to sacrifice those things? He wouldn't need to if he sacrificed Gaiseric's empire.

Well, why would he keep a tortured body ? Did Griffith keep his ?

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Femto/Griffith
« on: January 27, 2004, 11:09:00 AM »
saying the hawks are evil seem to be the primary opposing argument. yeah thats the main answer i have been getting more or less since this started.

Well I just gave you a correct translation and you got all bitchy, you're the one that started the whole Hawks vs others thing.

Now it seems like you overlooked all the wrong statements you made in your previous posts that I pointed out, anything to say on that ?

i said earlier that im flexible and i meant it, i said its possible that im wrong that the original quote was not in berserk

It's not possible it's a fact, people here told you it was, now are you flexible ? Because you sure don't seem so.

i have no reason to belive its true and yet uriel and aazealh act like they there is nothing suggesting they are wrong when they are simpily presuming they are right aside rumours

I'm not presuming, otherwise I would't have post. What's the part you don't get ?

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings by saying the Hawks take some of their translations from other people, and that half of their work isn't correct, but that's just the truth.

if you are all so desperate to make your point then give some reliable evidence, preferably from a reliable source.

You're the one that looks desperate here, not taking what 5 people are telling you, including the site's administrator.

You talked about blind belief and reliable sources ? Well let me tell you: stop believing the Hawks are almighty because they're really not a reliable source.

If you can't take it, it's too bad, I'm sorry but I won't waste my time repeating it, just get the text translations from the people here and compare them with your scanlations.

in other words saying im wrong is not an answer.

It's more like a fact.

thats the stupidest thing i have heard all day.

Is that so ? Then I guess you must ignore what the Interstice is.

And you still didn't check any other sources that the ones you have ? What a blind believer!

christ, you didnt even understand what i said before, yet you open your mouth. his soul is not dead and i have no idea where you pulled that from.

guts is dead in the spirit world because the moment he was branded his fate was sealed

you could say his soul is as dead as those that try and take his body.

I guess I pulled it from here. You don't remember what you said yesterday and yet you open your mouth, what a pity.

and once again that is not a real answer to me thats a belief.

I gave you a correct translation, various people pointed out you were wrong, all of them knowing more about Berserk and/or Japanese that you do.

It should be enough to make you realize there's no explanation needed anymore here.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Femto/Griffith
« on: January 26, 2004, 11:07:06 PM »
Is it reasonable to express japanese in english or is it indeed a bit tricky to merit this effect?

Just like you said, it's not so simple. Every translator will use a certain wording, a different vocabular, and will rely on his personnal knowledge to try to make the translation as good as possible.

A part of the translating job that most people tend to ignore is the adaptation, the fact that Saiki for example may choose to change a line to make it more meaningful for westerners.

Basically such "amateurish" translations are very typical and easy to recognize, look how Mizar's translations differ from Graywords'.

Now, the Hawks just copied/pasted some translations, keeping the same wording, the same tone, and often not changing anything.

They sometimes incorporated rough translations before the most basic corrections were applied, and kept them like that.

Such things make their thefts pretty hard to disbelieve, and I never saw one of them daring come and contest it.

I hope that helped you.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Femto/Griffith
« on: January 26, 2004, 10:53:27 PM »
yeah i remember it was you who was preaching how evil they are

Preaching what ? I'm telling the truth, they stole half of their translations, from Eirias, from Puella, and from other people here, it's not really a revelation.

and now your telling me the hawks copied it from griffths translation eh, if they stole it then it must have been from griffith of skullknight.net because thats who mizar said did it

No, he said it was by Olivier Hagué (and it is).

oh and for the "im right your wrong" number you did on the end of your post means absolutely nothing, if you want to argue with me and prove me wrong then good i dont mind at all, but im not going to waste my time with you arguing like a year old along with name calling and hawk translation propaganda

What's the need of arguing with you ? Read the old posts here and try to understand them, that should suffice to make you understand why you're wrong on that point.

The border between worlds ? It's called the Interstice, even heard of that word ? The Hawks simply call it the Hazama because they weren't skilled enough to translate it.

Now why would the ghosts that constantly attack Guts long for a body with a dead soul rather than a body with a soul branded by a fantastic evil power ?

It doesn't make any sense for you ? Well sorry but that's still the way things are and the Hawks translation (that they copied on Walter's own translation, read what he wrote again) is wrong on this.

you annoy me.

Ignorant and cocky idiots like you that aren't even smart enough to correctly read a post annoy me too.

Please be sure you know something next time before doubting what people are telling you.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Femto/Griffith
« on: January 26, 2004, 10:16:49 PM »
it doesnt really matter who translated the idea thing, what made it stick out in my mind was that with all the bitching people do about hawks translation with being dodgy and wrong, yet when i read that idea thing it was almost exactly the same as the hawks version. it doesnt really matter why but if they were so dodge then how would they be so fucking similar.

Because they fucking copied it dumbass, like with half their Berserk scanlations, that is, the half that's almost good, since they managed to make errors even so they were stealing other people's work.

i have even heard things like they cant even translate themselve steal their ideas from fans and shit.

Well I wouldn't say it's not true, considering for example that their Bastard translations are from French and not Japanese, done by people so stupid that they would make the worst members here look smart.

[...]
makes perfect sense to me.

Too bad it's not correct.

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Shootin' the Breeze / Re:what was the first anime you watched?
« on: January 26, 2004, 09:15:14 PM »
First one I watched was Hokuto no Ken, quickly followed by Grendizer and Waga seishun no Arcadia - mugenkidô SSX (part of the Harlock series).

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Manga Mausoleum / Re:Femto/Griffith
« on: January 26, 2004, 07:30:56 PM »
I'm lazy so I'll just give you Rane's translation:

http://arcticnightfall.com/ranemaka13/main.php?section=translations&trans=v13ch11

Quote
Page 222

Guts: (What's this?)
(It feels like I'm cutting water...)
Skull Knight: The ghosts of the world are lost here.
They hold onto life even in death.
They gather, longing for your flesh, and warm blood.
The Brand of Sacrifice...
It attracts the people of darkness.
Spirits: Blood...
Life...
We will take it in...

Uh oh, looks like the line about Guts being already dead disappeared! :o

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Current Episodes / Rules for Current Episodes
« on: January 25, 2004, 01:17:04 AM »

Berserk is prepublished in a Japanese magazine called Young Animal. As an active member of this board, you swear to this community on your honor that you are buying Young Animal if it is reasonably possible for you, or that you will whenever it becomes so. Additionally, you swear that you will purchase the volume(s) said episodes will be published in as soon as they will be available for sale. That is a must-do, no excuse. If at any point in time it becomes clear that you do not follow this rule you will be permanently banned.

Young Animal is a semi-monthly magazine (it's released every second and fourth friday of the month). Berserk is currently published in every other issue, and we indicate the dates and issues concerned as soon as they become known (so please, search before asking). The e-version of the magazine can be bought online for about $3 directly from the publisher's website. We have a detailed guide on how to do so.

Do not hesitate to use the Search function before asking any questions as they might have been answered numerous times already. It's never pleasant for people to repeat the same thing over and over because someone hasn't looked through previous posts.

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Creation Station / Re:Miura's new artwork...
« on: January 25, 2004, 12:21:33 AM »
There doesn't seem to be many Farnese cards T_T.

There's a nice amount of Farnese cards actually, at least 6 are featuring her. In case you're ever interested in that, the background should be green.

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Shootin' the Breeze / Re:And the award for best avatar goes too....
« on: January 24, 2004, 11:58:31 AM »
Though, he did change it literally the first week the BBS was up, still not such a bad record.

You won't get away with this, I'm teh only hope now :P.

OK, then Aazealh with no thread is only hope for me as a man of constancy.  :-*

8)

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