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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 349
« on: April 26, 2017, 07:38:13 AM »
Hm, this is almost like the manga equivalent of a clip show. We're seeing a lot of callbacks in this episode, going all the way back to the very beginning with the cobra Apostle. Very cool.

Watching Guts share a moment with Roderick and Serpico is refreshing. Guy doesn't get to talk with men close to his age much, and he really looked like he needed a hug at the beginning. I'm also glad Serpico got a chance to muse on things as well; he's been out of focus for a long time.

Seeing the dog be the one to place the piece on the Casca doll was quite a surprise. I was honestly expecting Schierke or Farnese to do the deed. Makes me wonder if he's been slowly and bit by bit "reassembling" Casca all this time?

From what you guys are discussing here, do you think it would ever come to them deliberately choosing to leave a memory/piece out because it's perhaps too powerful or upon regaining such would cause Casca to again become too unstable and break?

I sure hope not. And to be honest, I don't think it's really in character for either of them. Schierke's too wise to believe that's a good idea, and Farnese knows from experience that running from your fears isn't the answer. Though seeing how things are, it doesn't look like it's going to be up to them anyway.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: April 25, 2017, 03:10:49 AM »
As far as Fukami goes, hell no.  If he is given free reign over this it'll be a laughable mess.  The point I'm making and going off of the 60% of the story being done, (from Miuras own mouth) the audacity as fans for all of or even most of the characters to get back stories at this point, it's a ludicrous thought.  No one wants to point this out and just follow in order as a yes man.  That's fine, fit in, I get it.  For myself, I find this approach silly.  Miura will do what he wants.  He isn't oblivious to the anime in 2016/2017.  If he really has no problem with that man taking his characters where he wants, who are we as readers to say?  At the end of the day it's Kentaros baby, whether or not the fans think it up to snuff in some regards, is in all actuality, irrelevant.  Should the story take a turn or get handed to imbeciles, a few will feel their  time was wasted.  I'll hold my reserves till then and hope for the best. 

Grunbeld is my favorite apostle.  I know Zodd takes the cake for most, but I'm curious of his personal fall into being such a beast of an apostle.  Perhaps his story is beyond a short few pages that would be worthy of a short novel.  I would personally relish an opportunity to read it. Regardless, when this "novel" is out, I hope to check it out.   

If the God hand do not in any way get a sizable or reasonable fleshed out episode or chapter for themselves, that is where I will draw a line in the sand and feel truly let down.  Kentaro could pull off a few pages for each, but I do hope for more.

You didn't explain at all how or why going into the history of some characters would disrupt the flow of the story. All you're doing is setting up a strawman, exaggerating the expectations of those you disagree with. Where the hell has anyone said they want to hear the backstory of every Tom, Dick, and Jane in Berserk? No one here, that's for sure, and I most certainly haven't either; I even mentioned the characters I think deserve, and always expected, to be explored in the same way others before them have. And frankly, most of the previous flashbacks we've been treated to were not really all that long either. Casca got a couple of episodes, Rosine's was split between two separate episodes that covered 13 pages total, Ganishka's past was covered in half an episode, and the bird dude got even less than that. And that was enough for them. I honestly don't expect the pasts for most of the God Hand or the notable Apostles in the Band of the Falcon to warrant any more than that either.

I like Grunbeld too, he's an interesting guy with a lot of questions hanging over him (which I believe is intentional on Miura's part), as is the case for the rest of the notable Apostles in the Falcons, but I don't want his background to be relegated to some side material written by a twit who neither I nor you trust; I want him to be explored in the manga by the master himself. And we don't even know how much involvement Miura has with this, or if his involvement is enough; Miura was described by Kurosu as working with the anime "top to bottom," and we know how well that turned out. Either Miura just doesn't have the chops to properly oversee things, or the people involved are just throwing his name around and exaggerating his involvement to give them legitimacy. Either way doesn't lead to a free pass.

And there's of course another concern that I have: regardless of the book's quality, will anyone outside Japan even get it? Berserk is niche enough as it is, and I don't know if the publishers are going to think it'll be worth the effort to export.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: April 24, 2017, 09:58:37 PM »
This is my line of thought.  Look at all of the characters throughout the years and how many have backstories vs how many we want?  There is no conceivable way for the manga to throw all or even half without disrupting the story.

How? Why? Berserk has never shied away from character backstories. If anything, flashbacks are a very common element used to add depth to the world. We've seen the backstories for the Count, Guts, Casca, Jill, Rosine, Farnese, Serpico, the bird torturer, the Beherit Apostle, and Ganishka, and all of those flowed nicely into the narrative IMO. I don't see why more would automatically disrupt the story. If Miura is willing to go into detail on the pasts for one-shot or even outright incidental characters, then I think those that have a bigger and longer-lasting presence in the story, like Griffith's lieutenants or the God Hand, can get the same.

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Too many times the expectations vs. the approach from the actual author become unhinged in an echo chamber, sometimes more passionate than reality and disappointment is blown out of proportion.

And too many times, other writers just muck things up because they don't have the talent, imagination, or intelligence of the original creator, resulting in works that don't match in quality, tone or theme. And that's assuming they don't violate the canon or continuity in any way. It's why a lot of company-owned franchises, like what you'll find in comic books and video games, tend to become messes. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Besides, you don't need another writer involved to keep you from falling into an echo chamber; you just need some people who can look objectively at your drafts and tell you what does and doesn't work.

And while this may not always be the case, do you really think this Makoto Fukami guy is going to add some quality material to the Berserk mythos, when he's been involved with a project that can't even get Miura's existing story right?

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: April 24, 2017, 01:10:04 PM »
I'm too burned out on shitty Berserk non-manga media to get excited. We got a crappy anime and a crappy game within a year of each other. Who's to say that this is going to be any better? Especially if it was written by one of the hacks involved with the recent show. Oh, Miura may be credited as one of the authors, but what exactly does that mean? That he actually was involved with the writing, that they're basing the story off of some plot details he gave out, or are they just plugging his name in for authenticity's sake? Or is it just a mistake by the retailers or ANN? Miura was credited as writing the third episode of the anime, and considering what a train wreck that was, it's not enough to fill me with confidence.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: April 19, 2017, 08:51:01 AM »
I'm not so sure if shit posts are really a good thing. Shit posts are the reason this series gets saddled with stupid memes and so-called jokes that get repeated ad nauseam to the point where they not only cease to be funny (assuming they ever were), but that also breed misconceptions among people who don't know any better. That's why Berserk is now forever stuck with the reputation as "that manga that did nothing but stay on a boat for years" and which "moves so slow because Miura is too busy playing Idolmaster to work on it." Now thanks to this anime, it's going to be stuck with endless CLANG! memes on top of that crap.

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Griffith specifically says (in the Dark Horse translation): "But it seems that while intentionally exposing yourself to the risk of death, you're also struggling to make it out alive." Which means a world of difference. Guts is really more akin to an adrenaline junkie than someone with a death wish. As a child, going into battles and killing soldiers bigger than him was the only way he was ever able to get any sort of positive acknowledgement from Gambino, and that upbringing in turn made it the only way Guts was ever able to find any semblance of meaning in his life.

I don't know how far you are in the Golden Age, but Guts does a lot of musing later on why he lives and fights the way he does. But whatever the case may be, the one thing that is clear is that he doesn't want to die.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: April 12, 2017, 09:13:37 AM »
Finished off Persona 4 finally. Game was pretty damn cool. Went for the 'true' ending as well.

Decided to take a break from the Persona series to play another game of Dark Souls. Trying to delve deeper into the lore of the series as well. The Soulsborne series are always incredible as hell the first time around (though I've only played Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne) but I find it's even more special knowing what to expect and seeing the significance of certain areas/items/levels etc.

The weight of those aspects makes the games far cooler.

In my opinion, those are really the only games worth playing in the Soulsborne family (Griffith's correct when he says they're the real trilogy). A big appeal behind the lore aspect of them is the mystery, piecing together the scraps of history you find and uncovering a huge secret in the process that changes your impression of the world. The problem that Dark Souls' sequels faced is that the first game pretty much made all the big reveals. You knew about the rise and fall of the gods, the fading of the First Flame, and the desperate measures taken to preserve it; what else was there to say? Which is probably why the sequels turned out the way they did, retreading and reiterating material that the first game already covered, if not outright referencing it. And worse, they wiped the slate clean with every new iteration, destroying most senses of world-building. When Dark Souls II was announced, I was hoping it would expand on some of the other places we heard about, like Carim, Vinheim, or Thorolund, but that was quickly dashed.

Since you like the gameplay and lore aspect to the Soulsborne games, I definitely recommend you check out Salt and Sanctuary if you ever get the chance. It was made by a different company, hell, it was made by two people as far as I can tell, but they definitely understood what makes these games click on both fronts.

Speaking of which, I'm replaying Bloodborne, trying out an Arcane build. It's nice to actually use those Hunter Tools that otherwise just gather dust in your inventory.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: April 10, 2017, 05:19:45 PM »
I don't know why people are complaining. I liked episode 13. Just look at the manga they did a great job to translate it to this episode. They skipped almost nothing. So why this critics. Just don't watch if you don't like the style. Yes the old berserk was great but as berserk fan appreciate that we have an anime of this best manga ever.

Yes, we should be thankful that the "best manga ever" gets such a shoddy animated treatment, with amateur visuals, sound effects, music, choreography, and fucking direction that breezes past the important bits and emphasizes the wrong parts, on top of a mountain of cut material that all combines into making a story that has none of the gravitas, complexity, atmosphere, or character of the original.

Naruto fans get an accurate, long-running animated series hundreds of episodes in length that goes through every single painstaking detail of the story. As do Dragon Ball fans. Fans of Hellsing and Fullmetal Alchemist got themselves a new anime apiece that set about being more faithful to the source material. But when Berserk keeps getting rushed, badly-made adaptations made by the most incompetent and unprofessional clowns in the industry who have no understanding or respect for it, we're expected to be thankful? Ask yourself, would you enjoy a Berserk anime if it was done entirely with stick figures or looked like this? If you said no, you'll understand perfectly why a lot of us don't enjoy this latest series.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: April 04, 2017, 01:56:36 AM »
According to jeanacabeana on Reddit, they saw the first 2 episodes at Anime Boston and Farnese and Serpico's backstory is in episode 2 (so there goes that dumb theory that the season 1 English dub changed their relationship because it wasn't going to be covered) And apparently it's bad, what a shock  :mozgus:

You mean this post?

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 348
« on: March 22, 2017, 02:30:42 PM »
Not to mention the introduction of Guts Dog! I just wish he could actually become Guts' dog, like Superman and Krypto the Superdog; Gutso the Berserkerdog. =) Actually, he reminds more of another famous hero's dog...

In any case, if it wasn't that it would almost certainly be killed, Guts should have a dog.

Just as long as it doesn't end up like your Gutsfield. :serpico:

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 348
« on: March 22, 2017, 01:37:55 PM »
Hm, looks like the scene from the guidebook with Guts and company at the banquet is being saved for down the road. If it hasn't been cut anyway.

After the brisk pace we saw in the last few episodes, it rather surprised me how much slower this one was, acting as more of a general setup than anything. A lot of questions are being raised without any answers in sight. What is the ominous mountain looming in the distance? What would happen to Casca if the little sprite were to be removed from the doll? How can they even begin to piece her back together? And just what else awaits us down the line?

Definitely will be intriguing to see the interplay between Schierke and Farnese during this whole excursion. All their personal one-on-one interactions have been in relative safety so far, but now they have to go on a little adventure by themselves. If Guts' formidable presence wasn't there, then Isidro and/or the elves' comical antics were, and the absence of all those elements is kind of making me feel unsettled.

Didn't expect Farnese to be immediately taken in by the little sprite. It gives me hope that she won't have a hostile relationship with Casca.

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Berserk Merchandise / Re: First4Figures Berserk Line Announced
« on: March 18, 2017, 02:41:24 PM »
The evil grin face is cool, I like that one. If I was to buy this statue, that's the one I would go for. The glowering expression is showing improvement, but it still feels like it needs work. Maybe in context it'll be better, but looking at it now, I have to echo the sentiments that the position of his eye makes it look a little goofy.

It's not as goofy as the angry screaming face though. With how square his mouth looks, and how his eye just seems to be trailing off, it looks like Guts is doing an impersonation of Mozgus' :mozgus: face.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: March 16, 2017, 05:49:22 AM »
Stilted CG animation, robotic facial expressions on Guts, crappy J-pop song that in no way fits into Berserk...I can't wait. :schierke:

By the way, can anyone refresh my memory? Did they even show the Hill of Swords in the anime and explain its significance?

EDIT--

Nevermind, just checked. They did.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: March 10, 2017, 05:03:06 AM »
Lost Children, here we come! :troll:

God, I hope not. I hope this is the last season of Berserk these clowns ever make. And when it's done, I hope it's the last thing they ever do. Won't happen, but hey, a man can dream.

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That was about par for the course last season I believe. I seem to remember specifically it was either volume 19 or 20 that was fit into a single episode. I could be misremembering though, and it was only half the volume. Either way, it wasn't good.

Wasn't Volume 19, I can tell you that much. I remember one episode of the anime ending with an imitation of this epic spread.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: March 09, 2017, 09:13:11 PM »
Well shit. Looks like I was wrong. I predicted that they were going to cover volumes 22-26, ending with the fight between Guts and Grunbeld, but it looks like they want to rush through even more material, going so far as to encompass all or most of v22 in a single episode. Fucking Christ.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: March 06, 2017, 01:48:39 AM »
Finished Dishonored 2 a while ago. I was ready to go another round at it, but indecision on how to go about that hit me hard. Didn't know if I wanted to try a ghost playthrough, a no-kill playthrough, a balls-to-walls kill everyone playthrough, to replay as Emily using different abilities, or to play with Corvo instead. I eventually just said "screw it" and moved on to Gravity Rush 2. That'll give me time to sort things out. As for GR2, it's a bit janky, but I'm having fun with it so far.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: March 06, 2017, 01:45:13 AM »
That is one polished turd. Griffith's reveal is still as obnoxious as ever. It's a real sad state of affairs at how much better the Musou game handled that scene.

Is that what they did? Yeeshh...
A lot of the half-decent 2D shots from the anime are little more than barely-animated line-by-line panel recreations from the manga with color added. So whenever I hear someone say "Well, at least the 2D parts looked good," I really want to bang my head on the wall.

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Creation Station / Re: My CNC machined Berserk props and armor
« on: February 28, 2017, 06:38:50 AM »
Cool stuff. And your girlfriend makes a good Judeau.

By the way, is that King Richard's Faire that you're attending?

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: February 27, 2017, 06:12:15 PM »
The opening is one of the few things I like about the 2016 anime. I'm surprised at the somewhat negative/muted response to it here on SK.net. Sure, 9mm Parabellum Bullet don't have that same je ne sais quoi as Susumu Hirasawa, but 'Inferno' fits the spirit of the series, IMHO... and the riffs are tasty as fuck.
I didn't care for that song. The vocalist with the energetic high-pitched voice didn't do it for me. It wasn't a good match for Berserk IMO, and neither was the peppy rock tune that accompanied it. The lyrics try to paint a bleak picture, but it doesn't work when the song just sounds so damn happy and excited, and I'm very certain that wasn't done to be ironic.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies to dread
« on: February 23, 2017, 06:46:17 PM »
Four and a half minutes and I'm already rooting for the alien. Nothing makes my indifference kick in faster than an expectation that I should care with overly sentimental lines like "I couldn't have picked a better bunch of jerks."

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: February 20, 2017, 04:47:26 AM »
Looks like a fan art...

Not saying it doesn't look good, but I won't be impressed until I see it in full motion.

And why aren't we seeing a voice actor for Grunbeld? Something tells me this is some sort of omen. :magni:
I bet you still won't be impressed once you do see it in full motion.

As for Grunbeld's absence, it's possible they just didn't consider him an important-enough character to consider listing him in the cast here. However, being as he plays a major part in the debut of the Berserker Armor, which they're so far banking all their promotion of the series on, I agree that it's a bad sign. Wouldn't be surprised if they just omitted him entirely or turned him into a voiceless grunt.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: February 13, 2017, 06:58:46 AM »
Just completed Shadow Tactics. A lot of fun and a good change of pace for me. Now to decide between moving on to Dishonored 2 or Gravity Rush 2 next.

Nioh has my attention, but I'm going to wait on it. The urge to return to Bloodborne and Salt and Sanctuary is strong, so I don't really need any new Souls-like games for the time being.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: February 03, 2017, 01:58:39 AM »
Grabbed this adventure game called Cayne off GOG. And it's been on Steam since late January. The mystifying thing is that it's free on both platforms, no strings attached (no paywalls, no ads, no nothing). It's meant to be some kind of spinoff to STASIS, if that means anything to anyone here. I'm very impressed by the production values in any case, and it definitely looks like it has an intriguing story, though playing it reminded me why I don't like adventure games. But hey, I can't complain.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: January 26, 2017, 05:00:19 AM »
So do we know how far the 2nd season is supposed to cover up to?

We don't know for sure, just that the Berserker Armor will make an appearance. Assuming of course, the show doesn't get cancelled halfway through due to poor ratings as viewers burned from last season decide not to tune in. Keeps fingers crossed.

If I were to make a guess as to where the endpoint would be, then I'd say it would be when Guts and company flee Flora's home about a third of the way through v27. The first season roughly covered five volumes of material (17-21) plus about the last third of v16. Since that endpoint means they would have to cover about the same amount of material give or take (volumes 22-26, plus the first third of v27), I'd say it's a good estimate. But don't quote me on this.

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