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Berserk Anime / Re: Would you give studio 4C another chance?
« on: June 26, 2017, 05:51:07 PM »
No. They slashed too much material, robbed the characters of most of their depth, made changes that were completely unwarranted, and overused CGI that was terrible at worst and sub-par at best. And while the 2D animation could look nice, I really didn't dig the art style, what with Casca's whitewashing and Guts' pouty lips. Studio 4C did a poor job telling the story, they stripped out the heart and soul of Berserk, and they couldn't even provide spectacle.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: June 24, 2017, 01:12:59 AM »
What They Say: The story continues...

What They Mean: Really, there's more story to be told! But we don't know if we can tell it anymore because nobody liked or watched our shit since we have no talent. So buy our Blu-rays so we can get another season going! Please, we're beggin you! Buy lots of them! Get them for your friends! Tell them the discs make good coasters! C'mon, we desperately need the money! Our careers are resting on this! Look, I know we did a terrible job, but if I don't bring in some real money soon, my wife's going to...oh, no! She's carrying a suitcase. She's walking out the door. My wife just left me. My parents have disowned me. I...don't have anything now. Just my job working for low-rent animation studio...and I'm terrible at it! I guess...I'm just gonna have to end it all. Goodbye, cruel world. Good–

BANG!

Oh. My. GOOOOD!!!!! MY EYYEEEEES! :isidro: :magni:

They're just not trying anymore, are they?

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: June 24, 2017, 01:04:06 AM »
Looking at these illustrations almost makes me forget my trepidation for the book. Almost. The illustrations are great, and it's fun to try and imagine what the story surrounding them could be. But I'm quite certain they're the best thing about it, and I'm still disappointed that this all has to be revealed to us in a novel written by a guy whose work so far has only filled me with white frothing rage. Best I can hope for is that it won't suck balls and that Miura will incorporate the story (or at least what worked in it, or what he envisioned it would be like) into the manga when the time is right. Or that he'll just ignore it and do his own thing, changing Grunbeld's history completely in the process. Either way, this had better be the last Berserk novel we see, as well as the definitive end for this merchandising push that's by and large only produced trash.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 21, 2017, 05:19:43 AM »
Thanks for the translation, Puella. You work fast.

More neat and absolutely disgusting creatures. Millipedes are always cool, and I'm getting serious Wyald vibes from those...penis apes. But I find it especially interesting how much more of a clear and physical form they all have when compared to the shadowy and blob-like monstrosities encountered earlier. Even the landscape has a more defined shape with this forest of viscera. It seems Casca's mind gets progressively clearer around this specific memory, like this is what she's constantly dwelling on to expense of everything else. :sad:

I also just realized that if Schierke and Farnese were able to smuggle in the items they found in their respective dreams, among other things...then could it mean Farnese is carrying the Sylph Cloak, Dragon Slayer, and Berserker Armor as well? If so, things could get very cool or very scary soon.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: June 20, 2017, 02:41:52 PM »
These nightmare demons are looking more and more disturbing. Those "pill bugs" are reminding me of Mara from Shin Megami Tensei, though they're likely based on Conrad with a a blend of this guy. Creepy either way.

I just hope that the continuation of the manga isn't meant to coincide with another lousy anime.

Whoa, didn't expect to see Mozgus, but it makes sense for Casca and Farnese of course, so we're getting some post-Eclipse action, and does that mean the dream defenses are becoming more personal (could a burned Flora show up :magni:) or is it just a coincidence?

I don't think it's post-Eclipse imagery we're seeing. I think the Mozgus we're seeing is Farnese using the "washing stone" from her dream.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: June 16, 2017, 04:35:12 PM »
The Moonlight Boy is completely omitted. Who saves Guts then? Schierke.

:schierke:

Seems what little heart the studios had making this shit stain they think is an adaptation just isn't there anymore. I notice a number of people on Reddit are speculating that it's a sign that the series won't be getting another season. I really, really, really hope that's true.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: June 13, 2017, 03:26:13 PM »
Finished my game of Demon's Souls. Learned why the Pure Bladestone can go fuck itself the hard way.

Ugh, that made me regret making my first character Dexterity-based. Pissed me off so much, I restarted with a mage.

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 350
« on: May 23, 2017, 08:23:27 PM »
Things seem like they're moving briskly now, but it's just the calm before the storm. The real trial awaits within the mountain. Stay strong, girls. :sad:

Seeing the Casca sprite speak got me emotional. Sure, it's just a piece of her overall psyche, but it's almost like we're witnessing her say her first words in forever. And the fact that she wants so desperately to see Guts is...after reading so many hairbrained predictions over the years, that she's going to hate Guts and immediately flock back to Griffith, and getting into so many bitter arguments about it, to see how wrong they all were is...vindicating. I'm not naive enough to believe things will be hunky-dory when all is said and done, but I think it says volumes when the most important figure in Casca's mind (and hell, the most prominent person in her memory) is Guts.

Watching a flustered Farnese cover a protesting Schierke's eyes for the love scene was funny, but what kills me is how even the dog is looking a little sheepish in that panel.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: May 20, 2017, 05:42:50 AM »
Recently beat the first Nier after having it sitting around for years and then Nier Automata the sequel. Really enjoyed both a ton, especially the music. The way Nier blended gameplay mechanics/genres was cool but clunky at times and Nier:A greatly improved on that, thanks to Platinum developing the combat this time around, but was a bit too easy. Overall though they're both really worth playing and probably some of my favorites of their respective console generations.

Now, by "beat," do you mean that you played through them once, or through all the requisite times needed to see all the endings? Because from what I understand (I haven't played either, though I do plan to pick up Automata, so correct me if I'm wrong), in order to get the full experience, you have to replay them multiple times. Something in the story changes each time, as does the ending, and the first Nier in particular is rather infamous for what its "final" ending does.

And sorry to hear you got robbed.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: May 19, 2017, 06:50:03 PM »
Been playing Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir. I played the original about eight years ago on the PS2, and while it had some decent ideas, its combat mechanics were pretty cumbersome, the whole thing was grossly repetitive in how you kept on running through the same levels and fighting the same bosses over and over again, and it ran on far longer than it had any right to. This new version is...still repetitive and could have benefited from some serious pruning, but the combat is a hell of a lot better now, and feels more like a 2D Devil May Cry, which can make up for some of its deficits. And it's goddamn gorgeous in HD.

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Artwork like that deserves to be attached to a better product. Like another fold-out piece for the manga.

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One thing that's caught my attention is that the BBC and Netflix is apparently going to air a four-part miniseries based on Watership Down sometime this year. Though I have to admit, there's talk of toning it down for children that's making me leery. As is the fact that it's a CG cartoon. Most still struggle to animate fur properly, and when your entire cast is covered ear to toe in the stuff, it's really not something you can afford to screw up on.

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Manga Mausoleum / Re: Volume 39 release
« on: May 13, 2017, 06:21:29 PM »
196 pages according to Amazon.jp.

Hmmm...Volume 39 is currently running at about 141 pages, which means there's 55 pages left to go, maybe less if things like the title page or the table of contents count. Mathematically, we could surmise that this volume could contain three more episodes for a total of 10...but we've only got two more months to go before v39 is released.

Eight episodes would be a conservative guess. Nine if they release e351 in both Young Animal and the volume real close to one another or on the same day. Or maybe, and this is the overly optimistic guess: we could have three more episodes to look forward to in v39 (and at least three more this year), and we might get two episodes in June.

EDIT--

And Aaz just ninja'd my attempt to correct this post. :iva:

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 349
« on: April 26, 2017, 07:38:13 AM »
Hm, this is almost like the manga equivalent of a clip show. We're seeing a lot of callbacks in this episode, going all the way back to the very beginning with the cobra Apostle. Very cool.

Watching Guts share a moment with Roderick and Serpico is refreshing. Guy doesn't get to talk with men close to his age much, and he really looked like he needed a hug at the beginning. I'm also glad Serpico got a chance to muse on things as well; he's been out of focus for a long time.

Seeing the dog be the one to place the piece on the Casca doll was quite a surprise. I was honestly expecting Schierke or Farnese to do the deed. Makes me wonder if he's been slowly and bit by bit "reassembling" Casca all this time?

From what you guys are discussing here, do you think it would ever come to them deliberately choosing to leave a memory/piece out because it's perhaps too powerful or upon regaining such would cause Casca to again become too unstable and break?

I sure hope not. And to be honest, I don't think it's really in character for either of them. Schierke's too wise to believe that's a good idea, and Farnese knows from experience that running from your fears isn't the answer. Though seeing how things are, it doesn't look like it's going to be up to them anyway.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: April 25, 2017, 03:10:49 AM »
As far as Fukami goes, hell no.  If he is given free reign over this it'll be a laughable mess.  The point I'm making and going off of the 60% of the story being done, (from Miuras own mouth) the audacity as fans for all of or even most of the characters to get back stories at this point, it's a ludicrous thought.  No one wants to point this out and just follow in order as a yes man.  That's fine, fit in, I get it.  For myself, I find this approach silly.  Miura will do what he wants.  He isn't oblivious to the anime in 2016/2017.  If he really has no problem with that man taking his characters where he wants, who are we as readers to say?  At the end of the day it's Kentaros baby, whether or not the fans think it up to snuff in some regards, is in all actuality, irrelevant.  Should the story take a turn or get handed to imbeciles, a few will feel their  time was wasted.  I'll hold my reserves till then and hope for the best. 

Grunbeld is my favorite apostle.  I know Zodd takes the cake for most, but I'm curious of his personal fall into being such a beast of an apostle.  Perhaps his story is beyond a short few pages that would be worthy of a short novel.  I would personally relish an opportunity to read it. Regardless, when this "novel" is out, I hope to check it out.   

If the God hand do not in any way get a sizable or reasonable fleshed out episode or chapter for themselves, that is where I will draw a line in the sand and feel truly let down.  Kentaro could pull off a few pages for each, but I do hope for more.

You didn't explain at all how or why going into the history of some characters would disrupt the flow of the story. All you're doing is setting up a strawman, exaggerating the expectations of those you disagree with. Where the hell has anyone said they want to hear the backstory of every Tom, Dick, and Jane in Berserk? No one here, that's for sure, and I most certainly haven't either; I even mentioned the characters I think deserve, and always expected, to be explored in the same way others before them have. And frankly, most of the previous flashbacks we've been treated to were not really all that long either. Casca got a couple of episodes, Rosine's was split between two separate episodes that covered 13 pages total, Ganishka's past was covered in half an episode, and the bird dude got even less than that. And that was enough for them. I honestly don't expect the pasts for most of the God Hand or the notable Apostles in the Band of the Falcon to warrant any more than that either.

I like Grunbeld too, he's an interesting guy with a lot of questions hanging over him (which I believe is intentional on Miura's part), as is the case for the rest of the notable Apostles in the Falcons, but I don't want his background to be relegated to some side material written by a twit who neither I nor you trust; I want him to be explored in the manga by the master himself. And we don't even know how much involvement Miura has with this, or if his involvement is enough; Miura was described by Kurosu as working with the anime "top to bottom," and we know how well that turned out. Either Miura just doesn't have the chops to properly oversee things, or the people involved are just throwing his name around and exaggerating his involvement to give them legitimacy. Either way doesn't lead to a free pass.

And there's of course another concern that I have: regardless of the book's quality, will anyone outside Japan even get it? Berserk is niche enough as it is, and I don't know if the publishers are going to think it'll be worth the effort to export.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: April 24, 2017, 09:58:37 PM »
This is my line of thought.  Look at all of the characters throughout the years and how many have backstories vs how many we want?  There is no conceivable way for the manga to throw all or even half without disrupting the story.

How? Why? Berserk has never shied away from character backstories. If anything, flashbacks are a very common element used to add depth to the world. We've seen the backstories for the Count, Guts, Casca, Jill, Rosine, Farnese, Serpico, the bird torturer, the Beherit Apostle, and Ganishka, and all of those flowed nicely into the narrative IMO. I don't see why more would automatically disrupt the story. If Miura is willing to go into detail on the pasts for one-shot or even outright incidental characters, then I think those that have a bigger and longer-lasting presence in the story, like Griffith's lieutenants or the God Hand, can get the same.

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Too many times the expectations vs. the approach from the actual author become unhinged in an echo chamber, sometimes more passionate than reality and disappointment is blown out of proportion.

And too many times, other writers just muck things up because they don't have the talent, imagination, or intelligence of the original creator, resulting in works that don't match in quality, tone or theme. And that's assuming they don't violate the canon or continuity in any way. It's why a lot of company-owned franchises, like what you'll find in comic books and video games, tend to become messes. Too many cooks spoil the broth. Besides, you don't need another writer involved to keep you from falling into an echo chamber; you just need some people who can look objectively at your drafts and tell you what does and doesn't work.

And while this may not always be the case, do you really think this Makoto Fukami guy is going to add some quality material to the Berserk mythos, when he's been involved with a project that can't even get Miura's existing story right?

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: April 24, 2017, 01:10:04 PM »
I'm too burned out on shitty Berserk non-manga media to get excited. We got a crappy anime and a crappy game within a year of each other. Who's to say that this is going to be any better? Especially if it was written by one of the hacks involved with the recent show. Oh, Miura may be credited as one of the authors, but what exactly does that mean? That he actually was involved with the writing, that they're basing the story off of some plot details he gave out, or are they just plugging his name in for authenticity's sake? Or is it just a mistake by the retailers or ANN? Miura was credited as writing the third episode of the anime, and considering what a train wreck that was, it's not enough to fill me with confidence.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: April 19, 2017, 08:51:01 AM »
I'm not so sure if shit posts are really a good thing. Shit posts are the reason this series gets saddled with stupid memes and so-called jokes that get repeated ad nauseam to the point where they not only cease to be funny (assuming they ever were), but that also breed misconceptions among people who don't know any better. That's why Berserk is now forever stuck with the reputation as "that manga that did nothing but stay on a boat for years" and which "moves so slow because Miura is too busy playing Idolmaster to work on it." Now thanks to this anime, it's going to be stuck with endless CLANG! memes on top of that crap.

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Griffith specifically says (in the Dark Horse translation): "But it seems that while intentionally exposing yourself to the risk of death, you're also struggling to make it out alive." Which means a world of difference. Guts is really more akin to an adrenaline junkie than someone with a death wish. As a child, going into battles and killing soldiers bigger than him was the only way he was ever able to get any sort of positive acknowledgement from Gambino, and that upbringing in turn made it the only way Guts was ever able to find any semblance of meaning in his life.

I don't know how far you are in the Golden Age, but Guts does a lot of musing later on why he lives and fights the way he does. But whatever the case may be, the one thing that is clear is that he doesn't want to die.

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: April 12, 2017, 09:13:37 AM »
Finished off Persona 4 finally. Game was pretty damn cool. Went for the 'true' ending as well.

Decided to take a break from the Persona series to play another game of Dark Souls. Trying to delve deeper into the lore of the series as well. The Soulsborne series are always incredible as hell the first time around (though I've only played Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne) but I find it's even more special knowing what to expect and seeing the significance of certain areas/items/levels etc.

The weight of those aspects makes the games far cooler.

In my opinion, those are really the only games worth playing in the Soulsborne family (Griffith's correct when he says they're the real trilogy). A big appeal behind the lore aspect of them is the mystery, piecing together the scraps of history you find and uncovering a huge secret in the process that changes your impression of the world. The problem that Dark Souls' sequels faced is that the first game pretty much made all the big reveals. You knew about the rise and fall of the gods, the fading of the First Flame, and the desperate measures taken to preserve it; what else was there to say? Which is probably why the sequels turned out the way they did, retreading and reiterating material that the first game already covered, if not outright referencing it. And worse, they wiped the slate clean with every new iteration, destroying most senses of world-building. When Dark Souls II was announced, I was hoping it would expand on some of the other places we heard about, like Carim, Vinheim, or Thorolund, but that was quickly dashed.

Since you like the gameplay and lore aspect to the Soulsborne games, I definitely recommend you check out Salt and Sanctuary if you ever get the chance. It was made by a different company, hell, it was made by two people as far as I can tell, but they definitely understood what makes these games click on both fronts.

Speaking of which, I'm replaying Bloodborne, trying out an Arcane build. It's nice to actually use those Hunter Tools that otherwise just gather dust in your inventory.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: April 10, 2017, 05:19:45 PM »
I don't know why people are complaining. I liked episode 13. Just look at the manga they did a great job to translate it to this episode. They skipped almost nothing. So why this critics. Just don't watch if you don't like the style. Yes the old berserk was great but as berserk fan appreciate that we have an anime of this best manga ever.

Yes, we should be thankful that the "best manga ever" gets such a shoddy animated treatment, with amateur visuals, sound effects, music, choreography, and fucking direction that breezes past the important bits and emphasizes the wrong parts, on top of a mountain of cut material that all combines into making a story that has none of the gravitas, complexity, atmosphere, or character of the original.

Naruto fans get an accurate, long-running animated series hundreds of episodes in length that goes through every single painstaking detail of the story. As do Dragon Ball fans. Fans of Hellsing and Fullmetal Alchemist got themselves a new anime apiece that set about being more faithful to the source material. But when Berserk keeps getting rushed, badly-made adaptations made by the most incompetent and unprofessional clowns in the industry who have no understanding or respect for it, we're expected to be thankful? Ask yourself, would you enjoy a Berserk anime if it was done entirely with stick figures or looked like this? If you said no, you'll understand perfectly why a lot of us don't enjoy this latest series.

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Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: April 04, 2017, 01:56:36 AM »
According to jeanacabeana on Reddit, they saw the first 2 episodes at Anime Boston and Farnese and Serpico's backstory is in episode 2 (so there goes that dumb theory that the season 1 English dub changed their relationship because it wasn't going to be covered) And apparently it's bad, what a shock  :mozgus:

You mean this post?

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 348
« on: March 22, 2017, 02:30:42 PM »
Not to mention the introduction of Guts Dog! I just wish he could actually become Guts' dog, like Superman and Krypto the Superdog; Gutso the Berserkerdog. =) Actually, he reminds more of another famous hero's dog...

In any case, if it wasn't that it would almost certainly be killed, Guts should have a dog.

Just as long as it doesn't end up like your Gutsfield. :serpico:

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Current Episodes / Re: Episode 348
« on: March 22, 2017, 01:37:55 PM »
Hm, looks like the scene from the guidebook with Guts and company at the banquet is being saved for down the road. If it hasn't been cut anyway.

After the brisk pace we saw in the last few episodes, it rather surprised me how much slower this one was, acting as more of a general setup than anything. A lot of questions are being raised without any answers in sight. What is the ominous mountain looming in the distance? What would happen to Casca if the little sprite were to be removed from the doll? How can they even begin to piece her back together? And just what else awaits us down the line?

Definitely will be intriguing to see the interplay between Schierke and Farnese during this whole excursion. All their personal one-on-one interactions have been in relative safety so far, but now they have to go on a little adventure by themselves. If Guts' formidable presence wasn't there, then Isidro and/or the elves' comical antics were, and the absence of all those elements is kind of making me feel unsettled.

Didn't expect Farnese to be immediately taken in by the little sprite. It gives me hope that she won't have a hostile relationship with Casca.

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Berserk Merchandise / Re: First4Figures Berserk Line Announced
« on: March 18, 2017, 02:41:24 PM »
The evil grin face is cool, I like that one. If I was to buy this statue, that's the one I would go for. The glowering expression is showing improvement, but it still feels like it needs work. Maybe in context it'll be better, but looking at it now, I have to echo the sentiments that the position of his eye makes it look a little goofy.

It's not as goofy as the angry screaming face though. With how square his mouth looks, and how his eye just seems to be trailing off, it looks like Guts is doing an impersonation of Mozgus' :mozgus: face.

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