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Creation Station / Pimping random people's awesome fanart
« on: September 13, 2013, 01:06:36 PM »
I don't usually go around all 'omg look at this' but David Müller recently posted this gorgeous painted version of a Berserk page and well damn just go look at it, it's pretty as hell.

Anime Asylum / Re: Berserk Golden Age Arc III: Descent [Review]
« on: September 11, 2013, 12:17:53 AM »
Finally saw it.  They left out so much... 

It was frustrating to watch some of these long drawn out scenes with no dialog when there was so much important dialog in the book.  Agree that adding things like any of the cut parts of Guts & Casca's scene would be shutting the barn door after the horses ran away during the first two movies...  Nevertheless I would have been so much happier with it if they'd tried.

The movie looked much better than the last one, but kept breaking its promise by putting more awful CG on the screen every time you start to really feel immersed.  When we see the actual drawn version of Carcus during the eclipse, I don't know how anyone unfamiliar with the story would even know it was him; up til then, 90% of the time he was an awful CG puppet.

Removing so much dialog and plot also made things a lot slashier than the source material.  Casca never brings up Charlotte as the reason there was no room for her as Griffith's woman, for example.  It ends up sounding like the reason she couldn't connect with Griff, was Guts and only Guts.

Though I knew we would never see it in this stripped adaptation, I still missed Charlotte's scene during the rescue, when she steps up to mislead the guards.  I'd held out a little hope, since she seemed to be one of the characters that was still getting to be in the story a little.

So many scenes I missed.  I know there wouldn't have been time for all of them but we coulda included one or two and cut Griffith's trippin' scene.

Lots of scenes I preferred the anime version of.  The biggest one that sticks out is that I liked the anime's version of Griffith's vision of the creatures coming out of the wall.  The manga gives me the impression of stillness and quiet, and the anime stuck with that; in the movie he's shivering like crazy, and it just didn't feel right to me.

There were a few scenes I liked as well.  Pretty much, the ones that were most like the manga and had the least CGI in them, and also the least unfortunate music choices.

I'll have to check out the dub at some point and see if I like it any better, too, because there was a LOT of voice work I did not like at all in this movie.  Way too many stereotypical shonen anime voice trope type choices.  Especially the gathering apostles all having the 'bad guy comedy flunky' voice at the beginning of the ceremony.  Like for REAL?  THIS is how you build atmosphere?  And Zodd is just a guy just going 'groar!' ?

All the colors and backgrounds were great, up til the Eclipse at least. 

I found it completely bizzarre that they ended the thing by ripping off the anime's ending.  I mean that..  that isn't in the books at all; like at ALL. 

To clarify; the manga also ends with Guts walking away but the tone and lead-up are completely different.  The anime and movie both end with a shot of Godo's furnace and Guts taking the DS and leaving without a word.

Speculation Nation / Little Serpico moment in Vol. 33
« on: September 07, 2013, 06:53:59 PM »
During the downtime, after Guts rescues Casca and Roderick rescues Guts, but before the pirates attack, there's a scene with Farnese and Casca.  Cas is goofing around and Farnese throws a minor tantrum at her out of general frustration.

Now, the in middle and end of that scene, we get a little panel suggesting Serpico is in the wings while this is going on, but he doesn't get an explicit 'hmm, my relationship with the rest of the cast' scene like Schierke does a few pages previous.

I'm wondering what significance that has?  I mean obviously the panels wouldn't be there if it didn't matter, but I can't think what exactly witnessing that moment would mean to Serpico that he didn't already know.

News & Not News / Re: News & Not News Megathread
« on: August 26, 2013, 02:40:55 PM »
Eh. "Gun nut" or "Gun grabber", it was just harmless banter on my part.

I find such terms usually whip up more emotional wagon-circling than is strictly necessary.  No one else used them in the last few pages at least.

The study is sited many other places on the internet, and I just snipped the first link from Google without thinking,so ease up.

This is true, and Skeleton is going over the top there since it's trivially easy to find cites elsewhere.  However when participating in even a friendly discussion, presentation matters a little; Jeff Rense is capable of citing actual facts, sure, and Hitler probably liked birthday cake too; however if I wanted to share my favorite cake photo I would try not to link to the one on Hitler's personal website.

Oh my god internet you do not disappoint.'s_cake.gif
OMFG LOL an actual one on Stormfront!

OMG wow Stormfront hahah they have happy birthday Hitler threads that break up into discussions of whether having happy birthday Hitler threads will distract from and/or harm their cause rofl

News & Not News / Re: News & Not News Megathread
« on: August 26, 2013, 01:55:20 PM »
Indeed, so why bring loaded terms like 'gun grabber' to a friendly discussion like this?  Really what it boils down to for a lot of people looking at this debate from outside the USA's perspective is that they haven't noticed the breakdown of society with criminals running roughshod all over the defenseless population in places that are substantially less gunny than the States.

News & Not News / Re: News & Not News Megathread
« on: August 26, 2013, 01:38:12 PM »
Yes yes, with every pro-gun claim or study, there will be an anti-gun or pro-control counterclaim.

And with every anti-gun or pro-control counterclaim there will be twenty pages of the author complaining about the counterclaim.. (mostly he seems to be angry about the idea that survey responses are not the gold standard of evidence based science)

News & Not News / Re: News & Not News Megathread
« on: August 26, 2013, 01:11:44 PM »
Like any sociological issue, this one is very muddy.  That study can't speak to questions like whether these confronted criminals would have scarpered if confronted with nothing but an angry resident or an angry resident with a baseball bat, that is, whether brandishing a gun in these situations is overkill.  It does mention that more than half of these 'uses' was the gun owner only saying that they had a gun.

From your link: "Okay. I can just hear critics saying that 50 or 55 people responding that they used their gun and you're projecting it out to figures of around 2 million, 2-1/2 million gun defenses."

I'm afraid I'm not 100% on board with their explanation why that's not a valid criticism.
A discussion of the survey and of surveys in general :troll:

Speculation Nation / Re: Was Rakshas there to follow Skull Knight?
« on: August 21, 2013, 12:39:00 AM »
Faith is also important because it’s a kind of choice. What happened to Zodd and the Pope was what is called a leap of faith. It happens when a person witness an extremely meaningful event and then decides to believe in something. In other terms, a miracle.

I'm really not so sure.  To me what happened at the tower of Albion when Mozgus and his dudes were fighting Guts is more like what you are describing.  The pseudo apostles and the people both witnessed and were part of these insane and/or awesome events and decided to believe, a 'leap of faith' the way you're speaking of it.  These things happened and they felt their own strong feelings and all this inspired them to choose to believe in the 'angels'.

When you're talking about Griffith and Mule and the pope-a and the apostles it's not a that sort of choice.  It's not so much their own natural feelings as something that reached in and PUT those strong feelings there.  Then they choose to go with these strong feelings or to go 'what the HECK?' or to resist etc.  I would call neither rolling so badly that you didn't notice what happened, nor the decision to knuckle under and let Griffith win this sort of a charisma check unopposed, 'faith.'

Shootin' the Breeze / Re: UK Manga volumes shortage
« on: August 10, 2013, 06:14:02 PM »
It's due to a shortfall of stock on the publisher's part.  This post/thread discusses the situation.

Creation Station / Re: Lithrael's revised Berserk Gallery 2013
« on: August 10, 2013, 02:16:19 PM »
Aws, thanks and welcomes to you guys!  Shucks! 

Now added to the gallery: Grail's doodlies and oekakis, and Drakull's colors!  I am missing a couple of Grail's oekakis though, 86. Foliage and 91. Egg Salad versus Peach Cobbler, which no longer load on the SK oekaki board - so if anyone happens to have them saved please let me know.

Now, this is already the huge majority of berserk colors that are even on the internet as far as I know, but I'm still pooting around sending messages to guys who don't seem to have been online for like 5 years to see if anyone else is cool with archiving.  So if anyone else here knows a Berserk artist who might contribute, feel free to point them out to me or poke them on my behalf. 

And of course if anyone here at the moment would like to contribute, send me a PM and I'll get it sorted with gratitude!

Thanks all!   :serpico:


Creation Station / Lithrael's revised Berserk Gallery 2013
« on: August 07, 2013, 08:05:13 PM »
Hey folks just a heads-up, I finally rebuilt the old Blissing Ig Berserk gallery, and it can be found here:

I've included my work and that of CnC, Proj, Vax and Spikey, the original gallery contributors. 
(If any of you guys would prefer your work not to be archived there at this time please let me know!)

Further developments as they develop.   :carcus:

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: July 18, 2013, 10:38:02 PM »
I thought I'd heard everything up until now. You are literally the only person I've seen that hasn't liked it.

I didn't like it just cause it was so DAAARRRK and I really do not enjoy torture scenes that are not in Berserk.  I liked a lot of the stuff IN it though.

Just saw Pacific Rim and it was full of funtimes.  I had no idea Owen from Torchwood was in it so I was making jolly noises when he showed up even though I was deeply unsold on either his Bert or the other guy's Ernie.  Luckily it was not the kind of movie to be ruined by goofy characters/characterizations.

OMG Proj!  Hi Proj!!

Buying / Selling / Re: WTB FIGMA GUTS
« on: July 03, 2013, 01:18:13 PM »
Which Figma Guts?  Hawks Guts?  Black Swordsman Guts?  Berserk Armor Guts?

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: June 24, 2013, 05:12:07 PM »
Never saw The Croods but it looked okay.  The visuals were good, the animals were adorbs.  Without seeing it I can't comment on the story but it did look like a lot of the jokes were a little tired.  It's pitched straight enough at kids that old jokes are a safe bet, though. 

Oh, finally got around to watching Arrietty, right after Epic.  We were rocking the small-scale theme pretty hard that day.   It really engaged the local 11 year old, not so much the story but the world.  I enjoyed it in a similar way, not feeling very invested in the characters but really enjoying the setting and the gentle pacing.    A nice break from more in-your-face movies.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: June 24, 2013, 02:26:37 PM »
I finally got to see Star Trek: Into Darkness.  It was fun to watch but ultimately so dumb and flat that the only things I still enjoy the next day are Scotty being awesome, Sulu being badass and Chekov being adorable.

Okay, so.  This movie was actually my very very first exposure to Benedict Cumberthingy.  And I am afraid I did not like him.  Like at all.  Actually, strike that, if he had just been a Voice, I might have been impressed.  His vocal performance was pretty great.  But every moment I could see his face I..  I'm sorry Ben...  I was just laughing.  I could not take him even a little bit seriously.  He looked exactly like every single 'badass' LARPer I have ever known looks when they are staring down some other 'badass' LARPer.  He was just missing some chubbiness and an oversized prop weapon.

No fault of his own, but Cumberbatch was completely miscast, though the part itself and surrounding plot was a poorly written bore anyway. I would have rather he just been a henchmen because that's all it amounted to. In any case, the complaints about his casting aren't unfounded nitpicks. Beyond the legitimate complaints of whitewashing (and running from it through otherwise worthless deceptions), it didn't resemble the character in just about any way, superficial or deep. No wit, no charm, no charisma, no great intellect, no ethos, and it made him a completely shallow thug that was ultimately lame to boot.

Yeah.  The writing definitely flattened him about as badly as it's possible to flatten a character. 

The people defending the casting are IMO really REALLY missing the boat.  After I heard they'd tossed around other casting ideas like Javier Bardem it became crystal clear that Benedict was 100% a butts-in-seats casting choice.  It's NOT because he was the best man for the job.  It's because he's a huge name right now from Sherlock with lots of awards and recognition.  It's exactly the same kind of casting as getting Samuel L Jackson to play Mace Windu, instead of getting a Morgan Freeman or Laurence Fishburne type.  Cast for who he is and who he'll draw, not for being the best guy for the job.  Javier would have knocked it out of the park.

The plot itself was so loose and so full of 'wait, what?' bad-science moments, though.  Eesh.  I'm not expecting tight, hard sci-fi or anything but this was genuinely sloppy.  If there are things that don't make sense when you sit down to examine the movie that's fine, that's almost all sci-fi.  But if they don't make sense right there while you're watching the movie that's just too sloppy.  (Does the idea of surreptitiously working cryo-pods into a torpedo design make sense to anyone?  How was that the best solution to that problem?  How did that HAPPEN?  Whether it was Khan's idea or the other guy's, which wasn't awfully clear in the movie, you'd think 200 kilos of dead weight in a projectile would raise an eyebrow or two somewhere along the line.  Which is why Scotty was the best.  "I am NOT letting this obvious plot device on my ship!")

I also saw EPIC, the movie about tiny little guys fighting for the health of a forest.  It was pretty cute and excellently animated.  The forest was straight-up beautiful.  Lead animator on the dad character was absolutely perfect.  They villainized bats though.   DON'T DO THAT!   :schierke:

Character Cove / Re: Griffith's Final Glance to Guts..
« on: June 21, 2013, 04:10:26 PM »
Great post A-Bob. 

I can see how it's difficult for some people to reconcile the idea that Griffith really did care about his band (enough that they were such a powerful sacrifice for him to make) with the pretty much complete disrespect for things like Guts' choice to leave (to the point of being shattered, interpreting it as a terrible personal wound etc)...  But it's trivially easy to find that kind of warped care in the real world.  "I love you so much I'll kill all of you rather then lose you in some other way" is a story we see every once in a while in the real world in tragic murder-suicides.  All it really requires is for someone to be screwed up enough that whatever other life their loved ones could have had without them is dropped right down the bottomless pit of their own ego.  And when it happens in real life, those people are just plain checking out, as opposed to Griffith who at least was convinced there was something meaningful to be gained by it, and he could let himself imagine his men would respect the idea of dying for his dream, etc.

Anime Asylum / Re: Berserk Saga Project News
« on: May 16, 2013, 07:08:02 PM »
Eesh.  Yeah, I'm with you.  Glad to know those fond memories of being hunched over in my school's bathroom wishing for a quick death are just a misogynistic myth.  Great that someone could step up and straighten that out for me!

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: A lack of Berserk - Dark Horse & DMP
« on: April 10, 2013, 01:33:20 PM »
It's never going to be a 1:1 ratio, but as I already said even if it was a 100:1 ratio it'd be enough to make a difference. That's the bottom line here.

I don't mean to downplay piracy's negative impact but I'm always astounded how many kids download stuff that they never, ever even look at.  I'd think a more reliable indicator would be how many page hits those 'read manga online' sites get.  

As for the Print vs Digital market issue, that's another topic altogether (and the two really shouldn't be conflated). Legal digital versions will not be bought as long as illegal free ones are readily available. That's the truth of it.

On the other hand, legal digital versions will not be bought as long as they don't exist.  They also will not be bought as long as the price is analogous to physical media.  I'd consider myself a typical case and I turn to legit sites for most of my entertainment purposes now because the stuff I want is increasingly available on demand for a decent price, even though I have easy access to pirated content.  

eta: I do think we're approaching the point where this stuff is working as intended, and now we just need to shift the attitudes in the customer base.  "Don't pirate that, get a ride to the store and pay $25 for it if they have it" was a hard sell, "Don't pirate that, it's $1.95 on Amazon on demand you dick" IMO should have a lot more traction.  Once every-damn-thing is online we can call it the new normal.

There's no question that piracy is a serious issue and that fighting it would make a difference.

True, true.

It looks like there's a decent number of them up now on YJA but I no longer have a Japanese buyer contact.  Can anyone recommend a service?

If anyone's looking for one in Canada, has them for bout $85.  I'd get that but shipping from Canada to US is as much as Japan to US, heh.

Shootin' the Breeze / Re: Had any bad experiences with girls/ guys?
« on: April 08, 2013, 01:36:26 PM »
Nah, I been all right really.  Any incompatibilities have been resolved on decent terms as far as I know.  Although I didn't make things easy for the first cute guy I met in college.  We never got very serious in the first place, and then he told me he had a girl and would be breaking it off when she moved to town.  I was whiny about it.  On the drama scale though it rated about a 1.  He was cute as hell, I was just disappointed about not getting to pat him anymore. 

I'm generally an aloof type though so if I'm on anybody's bad list it'll be for 'what the hell?' things rather than 'from hell!!' things.   :troll:

Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: March 13, 2013, 03:18:44 PM »
Started playing Infinite Space, and am about 2 hours in (which is basically nothing) and I'm enjoying it so far.

Nice!   That thing lived in my DS till I decided to tackle some professor laytons.

Berserk Merchandise / Re: Looking for remastered DVDs?
« on: February 20, 2013, 02:20:54 PM »
I'm looking for a set of these myself.  I hate to buy off Ebay for this kind of thing due to how many of em tend to be knockoffs...  If anyone can hook me up just send me a PM.  Thanks!

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: New Ghost in the Shell 2013
« on: February 08, 2013, 03:55:04 PM »
Oddly enough the first movie is my least favorite of the GitS stuff.  I enjoyed the first TV series a lot, and the second a bit too.  I think it's because I loved the tachis and all the stuff they liked to blather on about a hell of a lot more than I enjoy the Captain's aloof musings.  Also want to squeeze Batou.  (do you know how HARD it was to find a poster of Batou?)

Shootin' the Breeze / Re: Board games?
« on: February 04, 2013, 12:39:19 PM »
It depends on the people you're playing with.  Some groups go all out and talk in character voices and everything, some just go 'arright, I'm hitting the undead guy with searing light.  Can I tell he's a vampire?  Should I roll a knowledge check?  OK so I hit him for 18 points.' and the 'roleplaying' amounts to not letting your party's barbarian chop off any non-aggressive kobold NPC's heads if you're supposed to be a good cleric or something.

Buying / Selling / Re: [FS] Everything must go!
« on: January 26, 2013, 02:06:06 PM »
Yeah!  Had a good conversation with the seller and he gave me a shot at a few pieces, and kept me informed on their availability.  I just wish I had more cash.   :puck:

I really love the Armored Berserk statue, just it's really pretty small and the detail on the bust-ups is much better too...  so in the end I passed on it.  Though I'm sure anyone would be glad to add it to their collection!

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