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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 23, 2017, 11:27:11 PM »
Is anybody else bothered by Tammy's distracting wiggle-walk? I wonder if the actress was specifically directed by Lynch to do that. It just doesn't look natural.

I find a lot about her problematic.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 23, 2017, 03:49:04 PM »
This chart has come in handy when revisiting Season 2.

This is awesome.

Bummer! I still haven't gotten around to finishing the audiobook version, myself. I found a lot of the initial history to be dreadfully dry, but once I got past some of the more lengthy explanations, it was a lot more enjoyable.

I can imagine that reading the actual book is probably a better experience, because the source materials are laid out like actual notes. That's cooler than the audiobook, which even though it gets some narrations from the actual cast, their performances are mostly phoned in (Cooper's in particular, Christ!). It just bugged me the direction they went, the things they were interested in focusing on, it all seemed so tedious and peripheral to the stuff I actually care about. Maybe fans of the goddamned Martell / Packard / Horne rivalry are just bonered up for it though. That stuff on top of all the Nadine, high school football, and Josie crap that populates the book, retconning the mayor's brother into being a key character ... It just all reeked of crap, to me.

One thing I'm confused about (based on what I've heard from others) is how there are some apparent inconsistencies with the show that have lead people to believe that the book's referencing an "alternate" Twin Peaks in which some events involving the cast are slightly different. What's your take on that?

Yeah I came across some of that after looking online for "did I miss why this book was important?" But, I don't put much stock into those notions, because it seems like a case of the fans being too familiar with the material, and see more significance in details like inconsistent maiden names and where rings were on fingers -- the kinds of details that could easily have just been oversights. The competing timeline and reality theory has been brought up a few times, over on Reddit, but consistently gets disproven by things like Jade mailing the key (and it arriving in Twin Peaks shortly after). Fans will be fans!

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 23, 2017, 02:40:47 PM »
but is season 2 and/or the film necessary to understand and enjoy it or are they largely ignored?

Understanding what happens in Season 2 and Fire Walk With Me is absolutely vital to following the new season. There are many scenes, characters, even props, where the meaning is left unexplained, relying on the audience to piece it together. That being said, Season 2 ...  taken at a leisurely pace, I think there are bits that are genuinely good. But they are few and far between the absolute crap. I had the pleasure of watching it with friends back when the show wasn't even on DVD yet (on tapes recorded when it was airing with commercials), and we laughed through most of it and had a blast. Watching it solo now, with the knowledge of much better things on the horizon, I can totally understand someone squirming through it.  :guts: So if you're racing to catch up with us, and I don't blame you, I'd advise reading up on what happens (this is good enough, followed by watching this video I guess? ), and then dive straight into the finale, which marks Lynch's return, and is amazing.

Also, I'm struggling to think of something that was wrong with Fire Walk With Me. As I understand it, it had bad initial reception (in 1992), I suppose because it followed on the heels of the up-and-down Season 2. But distanced from those strange early days, you won't find much to complain about now. It's quite loved by Twin Peaks fans.

Finally, hey guys, I finished the Untold History of Twin Peaks book, and I thought it was truly awful. Ask me anything!

With my very limited knowledge of Berserk, there are only two outcomes: Guts will lose the beherit prior to a big event involving the Godhand, or Skull Knight will make use of it as he does.  :SK:

There are many possibilities. Of course, there are tons of threads on this subject, but here are a few of the things I've been thinking about lately.

Puck's affinity for that Beherit is probably going to play a role. I don't think Miura would have reinforced the connection between those two merely for comedic effect. Something we've been talking about on the podcast for the past year or so, is that Puck's proximity to the Beherit over the years could have changed its nature in some way. The foundation for that could be barytes, which have no affinity with elves, but seem to have an affinity with darkness/depression/obsession, perhaps the traces of another force at work in the Berserk universe. But we're still too far from a revelation on that front to say for sure.

Beyond that, Skull Knight may not be the only one to have used Beherits in an alternative way. There could be others. Furthermore, Beherits were recently introduced as a way to open the road of dragons, connected to a deep part of the astral world (the abyss). Perhaps Miura has ideas for exploring that a little further.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse Releases
« on: July 19, 2017, 09:53:18 PM »
Could you post a sample panel? I'm waiting for the manga scan where you can see the stippling. :serpico:

Sample from Vol 21, showing the UI
Sample from Vol 22, showing a 2-page spread

Quality looks great on devices like phones and tablets. On desktop, it's merely good enough. The convenience of having all of Berserk on my phone whenever I want it has already proven pretty useful.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse Releases
« on: July 19, 2017, 12:48:02 AM »
That's awesome. I picked up what I could afford with just a day's notice  :farnese: . Quality is good, not great. 2-page spread merging is still noticeable.

Still, this is a bold new era, folks. Time to erase the existence of all those shitty Hawks scans. Berserk has been legally scanned.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse Releases
« on: July 18, 2017, 02:26:26 PM »
The manga is now available digitally on Comixology and Amazon Kindle (only up to vol.25 as of this post). :daiba:

Wow! Awesome move by Dark Horse!

Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: July 17, 2017, 07:41:07 PM »
Zelda, BotW DLC 1. My "hero's path" was pretty comprehensive. There weren't too many spots on the map that I completely overlooked, but I'm combing through them now. Boy, that desert section sure is ... barren. As much as this game utterly devoured my life when I was initially playing it, my mind hasn't returned to it ever since I put it down, which is very strange. I'm hoping the extra quests in the DLC will spur me to rediscover my love for the game. We'll see!

Nier: Automata. I just finished my first playthrough (Ending A of like, 26). Really not impressed. I've heard I have to experience at least two more endings before I GET IT. So uh, I guess I'll do that? Seems like a very poorly constructed game, to me.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 17, 2017, 01:49:05 AM »
This isn't a spoiler at all, but I'm really going to be sad when Dougie Jones is inevitably ushered off the stage. He's still around, and I'm already missing him.

Missing him.

Highlights from tonight's ep:

Nadine's business exterior.
Albert's date and Gordon/Lynch's reaction.
Confirmation that the Horne family tree is fucked up.
Diane's apparent role in what's to come.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: July 16, 2017, 01:31:09 PM »
Question, I know there was a few illustrations provided with the book. Is it by chance like the manga where there is sometime a illustration poster within it? Because shamelessly I would like to buy the novel if there was.

The illustrations are interspersed throughout the book -- no  posters.

Creation Station / Re: The Art of Rapaz!
« on: July 14, 2017, 10:18:24 PM »
Very much so. It captures this intense moment from a totally different perspective. Dragon Slayer handle proportion is off a little, and I'm not sure what's happening with the iron arm (Guts left arm still has elbow). But you got the other details down braitufilly. Assuming this is digital art?

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: July 14, 2017, 06:39:50 PM »
I'm ambivalent to the idea of Grunbeld becoming an anti hero apostle that saved his people, part of being an apostle is severing your ties to humanity, apostles don't help people. After all, how does Grunbeld feel about flooding his old homeland with hordes of monsters?

The deeper we went with the initial summary that was posted, the less it held up. I wouldn't put too much stock into it, particularly details like this.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: July 13, 2017, 12:55:44 AM »
There's no doubt in my mind that this thing is simply the "merchandising ploy" that you describe. I'd have a hard time believing it's something that Miura personally thought up and planned around. My question is how much of a say Miura has on such things. Could he have outright said "no" to something like this? Depending on the contract in question, at least in other industries, the author of the source material may have little to no say over something this whatsoever. But I don't know the nature of Miura's relationship with the rights holders.

We don't know, and likely never will, but I'll go back to what I said earlier: If it was something he didn't give two shits about, he likely wouldn't have contributed as much to it.

My assumption with the recent anime itself is that he had little involvement in the choosing of the studio or the outcome of the product -- I'd guess that he agreed to have the series animated, signed some paperwork, and enjoyed whatever minimal involvement they allowed him while the suits handled the rest.

I agree in part, but as written, it doesn't align with what we were told about how Studio 4C had to pitch their pilot to Miura, who had rejected other attempts over the years. There's no mention in that little anecdote about having to pitch it to Hakusensha. In that scenario, it's entirely possible that the publisher may have been interested in an animation, but wanted to get Miura's blessing before doing anything. After that point, his involvement is a bit nebulous.

For example; if Miura's permission to make the light novel was required, then that means this project has his blessing up and down.

That is the assumption that I'm going with.

He approved of it to begin with and regardless of how much involvement he had in making it, his stamp of approval is on it.

We don't need to surmise this his illustrations and his name on the cover are a sufficient stamp of approval.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: July 12, 2017, 01:21:41 AM »
What I meant to say is; the length of the novel and amount of detail that (I assume, having not read it) it goes into are beyond the scope of what I'd like to see in the manga for most characters.

Well, we were never going to get that amount of detail, because that's not how Miura writes. And even though the format of a novel affords more room to develop that story, I don't personally care what someone other than Miura has to say about that world. Even if this does bear the official license, it will never amount to more than a novelty, excuse the pun.

For Skull Knight or Isidro or someone vital to the cast, I'll gladly take an entire episode (or two or three?!) dedicated to them -- if Miura has that much to say about them, that is. But I do not want to see that much for Grunbeld, Locus, Irvine, etc. A brief flashback of a few pages or even just a couple of text bubbles that explain where they come from is enough for most of them in my opinion.

We're back to a weird place again -- the presumption that the backstory Miura had originally planned for those characters would feel bloated. It's never been the case before, why would it be different moving forward? This novel exists purely for merchandising reasons. It's unlikely Grunbeld's story was ever going to be excessively long, because there's just no precedent for it. Ganiskha was a far more consequential character, and he got about a half episode. The beherit-apostle's origin was a bit longer, a full episode, give or take, but no complaints from fans for its length that I'm aware of. 

From there, if you want more, I think a novel or a one-shot about the character that stands beside the manga is appropriate.

Maybe if it didn't spoil the reveal Miura was going to do eventually, at a natural place for the story. But this novel has already taken that possibility away. That's a pretty key factor in people's reception to this thing.

American comics do this all the time and it's not an issue there.

American comics are a different industry with a dramatically different (shittier) way of telling stories. The characters in US comics exist to serve as ageless, interminable banners for their brands, not to tell a story with a clear beginning and an ending. It's inconsequential what a side novel brings to the table, because those characters have their universes reset every 5 years after being passed between a handful of writers.

Also, light novels do exist for manga. They're not uncommon, and they seem to vary in degrees from controversial to benign.

What I do take issue with is if said side material contradicts the source material or if it opens up plot holes that the source material doesn't address. If Miura gave the author of the novel an outline of what the story is about, and then checked it for consistency (or at least had someone check it for him) then this shouldn't be an issue. I don't know if that's the case with this novel, and based on the summary provided above, I'm a bit worried that the author had more free reign than we might like... But again, I'll wait until have a more detailed summary before jumping to conclusions.

Miura has taken every opportunity to stand behind this thing, which is particularly striking knowing his lack of dedicated involvement in other recent projects. His name is on the cover, he provided original art (which is awesome), and he praised the "establishment of Grunbeld's story" in the recent YA comment. If he wasn't proud of it, or his involvement was minimal, we'd likely have gotten the simple "please buy the new Berserk thing!" comment that we often saw in relation to the movies.

That being said, we will likely never know the specifics of what transpired between he and the writer. I think there are some safe assumptions though. Miura has been very protective of Berserk, so I have a hard time believing he placed his entire trust in the writer to flesh out Grunbeld's story. He probably had pointers from Miura about the overall thrust. There's also a pretty safe bet about why this thing was created, and thus, how fans should weigh it in their minds. Given the recent animation, it would make sense if this novel was born as a merchandising ploy, using a character that had recently taken the spotlight.

What I can't reconcile throughout this whole thing is what Miura was thinking about the audience at large, the international fans, which he is keenly aware of. It sure seems like an irresponsible merchandising choice, made without much thought for how the overall story of Berserk is assimilated. There's zero guarantee we'll ever get the novel officially translated. So what are we to do, and how are we to treat this thing? It's an uncomfortable place to be for fans. The fact that we've gotten a hastily assembled summary has changed nothing in that regard, as we expected.

The ideal scenario may lie somewhere in between -- with the manga giving us the vital bits of the back story and then letting the character really shine in their own stand alone tale that goes beyond the scope of what should have been included in the manga.

Again, that sounds less problematic if the novel came out sometime after the origin story's reveal in the manga. That isn't what happened though, so the whole thing has a stigma attached to it. 

Think "The History of Trunks" from Dragon Ball Z. Trunks was a main character for a rather long story arc (often separated into two arcs, actually) and was massively influential to the story of that time. His back story was elaborated on within the original series, but he was given even more back story in his own standalone movie. Similarly, "Bardock - Father of Goku" was a standalone movie that gave a full back story on a character that wasn't originally mentioned in the manga, but was later referenced briefly after the success of the movie. Maybe Berserk would benefit most from a scenario like one of these.

I don't think there's much to compare between Berserk and Dragon Ball Z.

If Skull Knight's story isn't explained in the manga at all (beyond the little bits we have so far) and is instead sold as a standalone novel or something written by a third party, then I wouldn't be too happy and I think the manga would suffer as a result of it.

Understatement of the millennium.

Speculation Nation / Re: What do you think will happen after Elfhelm?
« on: July 11, 2017, 01:01:34 PM »
Do we know how SK is doing? The last I recall seeing of him was in a wide shot after Femto uses his sword stroke to split Ganishka open. I don't think we've even seen him this arc. He's a resourceful guy and probably got away

We don't need to guess at how or if Skull Knight escaped. He traveled to the top of Ganishka using the Beherit Sword technique, allowing him to pass between dimensions. He could use the same thing to escape the blast. Also, he basically has a flying horse.

In any case, if he were able to easily get to Elfhelm, he probably could have let Guts and Casca hitch a ride again the last time they met and saved them a lot of trouble.

He can easily get to Elfhelm using the above technique.  And SK works in mysterious ways. He probably has a good reason for not becoming a pack mule for Guts and his people.

Thanks for clarifying. I am rather new to the series and still struggle to catch on all details, even major ones like causality within this story.

No worries. Berserk is a pretty complicated series, so it takes some time to grasp everything.

However, him being branded might mean that he still can/cant play part of causality? Just speculation. I remember SK talking about how Guts was a "Jumping fish" in the river of causality.

No, as Skull Knight tells him in Volume 18, he and Guts are both still within the flow of causality. That's what the jumping fish analogy is about. Due to the brand and Guts having one foot in the astral world, Guts can disrupt things momentarily (in the analogy it's the fish's ripples distorting the moon's reflection, which symbolizes the incarnation ceremony), but like a fish, he always falls back into the water.

Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: July 10, 2017, 11:12:35 AM »
Because this way it wouldn't be limited within 24 (?) episodes, or they'd fit it in at the expense of being detrimental to other parts of the story. Showing the escape from kushan assassins and then the Wyald pursue and battle would take at least a whole episode.

That doesn't really hold up considering that team added about 20 minutes worth of Adon filler.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 10, 2017, 01:54:11 AM »
For those who saw tonight's ep:

This is the kickoff of an ARG, apparently.

I enjoyed Castlevania quite a bit -- which is pretty crazy, since I thought it would be garbage. I think Berserk fans will have a hard time not comparing this lovingly crafted show with what happened to Berserk over the past year.

First and foremost, it's gorgeous. I took a peek at a few scenes before dedicating myself to watching it, and was instantly struck  by the designs of everything -- the buildings, the characters, the overall polish that went into the backgrounds. The writer (Warren Ellis of comics such as Transmetropolitan, Planetary) put a lot of care into each character. Only a few feel like cliches, which is impressive considering the stock they had to work with. Voice acting was indeed a little muffled, but I didn't mind it, and I usually hate "dubs," so that's something. I also appreciated that it felt like a film, chopped up into 4 parts, and not 4 episodic stories set in the Castlevania lore. It has a straight story to tell and each episode felt pretty significant.

Obviously, there's many more places for the story to explore, since it ends virtually at the start of the game it's based on, so I hope the team behind the show can maintain the quality as it continues.

Other than that, Twin Peaks continues to be a joy and a surprise to return to each episode. Anyone on the fence about it should hop off now and re-watch the first season or so. Joining in fresh for this season would be inviting frustration.

Hello. I also found this interesting when re-reading Berserk. As Griffith mentions, Guts likes to go head first into seemingly impossible battles and challenges. It is clear that death is not his desire at this point in the story, but one have to wonder at previous encounters.

It seems pretty simple to me. Guts pushed his physical limits in taking on enemies more powerful than him. He had to fight dangerously, recklessly, putting himself in precarious circumstances to get an edge over his opponent.

Another thing I couldn't stop thinking about, is how he succeeds when failure looks like the only outcome.. Maybe there is another force interfering to keep him alive? Causality/destiny?  :carcus:

Well Guts has been saved by Skull Knight on a few occasions, and Zodd has too -- do  you mean something apart from that? Because that isn't exactly how causality works. It is not an active power wielded by god on a series of tight strings. It's a force that subjugates humanity by manipulating their subconscious minds over centuries. I suppose you could argue that because Guts was certainly instrumental in Griffith's rise and fall, it's likely that his existence is owed to causality, but I think relegating Guts' survival to divine intervention is going a bit too far.

Berserk Anime / Re: 2017 Berserk TV Series (Season 2)
« on: July 07, 2017, 04:41:52 PM »
Boy, they sure seem to have a lot of information about the production without actually listing any sources. :ganishka:

It's what everyone already knew, with a bit more specifics staff inexperienced with 3D, a director who insisted on a style that clearly wasn't working, and time crunch.

Berserk Merchandise / Re: Displaying Berserk Art & Merchandise
« on: July 06, 2017, 12:40:47 PM »
Wow, that incubus is disturbingly life-sized! :magni:

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: July 05, 2017, 06:43:54 PM »

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: July 04, 2017, 01:12:56 AM »
Out of curiosity, has anyone found a fan translation online? I'd love to actually read the story--i've only seen 11 out of the 167 pages

A fan translation of the novel would be pirating the novel. You're just going to have to wait for an official release, or satisfy yourself with the summaries.

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