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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 07, 2017, 04:27:56 PM »
As pointed out to me on Reddit:


Mitchum brothers: What kind of gift should we buy for your son, Sonny Jim?
Cooper: Gym.


Okay, that's pretty good...

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 07, 2017, 01:22:49 AM »
So, that ending song. That was David Lynch making fun of James, right? .... Right?

Welcome Griff, to the glory of watching Twin Peaks LIVE!  :ganishka:

Anyway, whoo boy... another episode where I'm counting the minutes rather than being engaged in each scene. 15  minutes of arm rasslin, 15 minutes of Tom Sizemore antics. 5 minutes of James' song. Bye bye most of the episode.

Still, some revelations. We know a bit more about the ring's powers. It seems to bind souls to the Lodge. That tracks with what happened with Laura (which also prevented Bob from possessing her). Also, I wonder about Audrey's scenes now, after her thought about not feeling herself. Last we heard from her, she was in a bank explosion... Hmm...

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 06, 2017, 03:32:56 AM »
No time for a proper reply at the moment but:

https://twitter.com/J_Rosenfield/status/893877753774297088

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Podcast / Re: Skullknight.NET Podcast: Episode 89
« on: August 05, 2017, 02:41:13 AM »
I would love to hear you guys take on the wacky theories and do a bit of myth busting as you work through the material.

Been working on that quietly in the background for a while. Maybe now is the time?

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Podcast / Re: Skullknight.NET Podcast: Episode 89
« on: August 04, 2017, 03:02:34 PM »
Good job guys, an interesting listen, as usual.
Thanks again for taking the time to make these as they are always a pleasure.  This was one of the best I've heard.
Always love when a new podcast is posted. Love the rereads! thanks guys and girl!

Thanks everyone! As always people like the re-reads way more than I initially thought. I'd like to get on a quicker pace for them, but real-life often gets in the way.  :farnese:

I've been considering changing something about the re-read format, but would love some input from listeners. The page-by-page nature of these is what takes time. What if we continued rotating narrators between eps, but instead of going page-by-page, we talked summarily about our impressions and observations about the episodes?  The high points, as it were. I'm thinking about how most people must absorb these. Without having the volume in hand, going along page-by-page with the re-read, I'm not sure what the function of going over each panel is, since we can't really describe the art. Thoughts?

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 03, 2017, 06:06:56 PM »
I was surprised how focused and ultimately short it was, actually. I was expecting kind of an extended cleanup of the mess that is the latter half of season 2 and then an ending to redeem it, but that was cast off judiciously and it pretty much was just the redeeming black lodge horror and weirdness, so that was cool! What an awful cliffhanger on which to go on a 25 year hiatus though (of course for me it was no wait at all, they were just 25 years older in the next episode). :ganishka:

I didn't think of it like a cliffhanger, as much as a dark ending. Also, I think Fire Walk With Me gave fans a different kind of closure to the series, such that most weren't rabid for a return.

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Of course, I was also impressed by the "see you in 25 years" thing. Considering the brief production turmoil that went into this specific revival they just made it. =)

Yep, and you might already know but here are just a few of the hiccups purely on the human capital side of things: Log Lady (Catherine Coulson) died shortly before the premiere, along with Albert (Miguel Ferrer). The Man From Another Place (Michael Anderson) refused to be in it, along with Harry Truman (Michael Ontkean) though his on slightly better terms he's just done with acting. They only got Doc Hayward back for that weird Skype call because he's co-creator Mark Frost's dad. And it seems that his involvement was only necessary because Ontkean wouldn't come back to give his perspective on Coop after he returned from the Black Lodge.  :puck:

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I wonder if that will stay and he'll become a new sort of Coop or will it be a bit sad if he fully snaps out of it and "Dougie" is simply no more.

Yep, how they handle that is also a fear of mine. I also prematurely feel bad for Naomi Watts' character. But maybe that'll work out in the end, anyway. 

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BTW, what the hell was/is Dougie!? I'm assuming the doppelganger used knowledge from Jeffries (probably no Bowie either :judo:) and Briggs, and perhaps even his body, to create another doppleganger to cheat the system with the ring, whatever the system is, but... "What the hell!?"

He vomits up garmonbozia just as he dies, so he's a creature of the Black Lodge. The real question is who "manufactured" him and why. Evil Coop was supposed to die/return to the Lodge when Coop came back into the world, but instead, Dougie was taken into the Lodge and Evil Coop ended up spared. That benefits him, but it doesn't seem to me that Evil Coop knew about Dougie.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 03, 2017, 03:42:32 PM »
7 into season 3 and here are some impressions:

Wow, you really cruised through it! What'd you think of the Season 2 finale...?

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I feel like little has happened really, yet almost every moment of the show is captivating. I find myself probably enjoying and relating a bit too much to the new out of it Cooper. =) Yet no matter how much his return is delayed I'm enjoying watching the journey and process (him reconnecting with coffee was a big deal). Typically, I would hate this kind of arbitrary deferment as it were, so I have to acknowledge that with my praise, and maybe I wouldn't like it so much if I weren't able to binge these at my leisure,

Well, I've been watching since it aired, and I've had no real problems with the deferment of the inevitable return of Cooper. Personally I'm loving Dougie. On top of the overall comedy with his scenes, there's quite a bit of Cooper in his reactions to things, too. And seeing those glimpses of  him THROUGH Dougie is great. Crying at the realization that he has a son, even through his opaque perceptions, was a powerful moment. The scene of him with the statue of the police officer (at the end of episode 5), made me think he was reminded of his friend Harry. And it's indeed sad that odds are very low that we'll get the REAL Harry Truman in this series. As you said, probably the biggest bummer of the entire endeavor. He wasn't a crucial character for the story, but he's part of the heart of Twin Peaks.

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as much as I like Robert Forster I can't say I really agree with the thankless way they've handled the situation by de facto recasting but technically not. I'd rather Harry just be dead, Hawk be Chief, and Forster someone else altogether but we'll see how it plays out or pays off.

It's pretty gross to me how they've replaced him but not replaced him. The book that somewhat bridges the Season 2-3 gap wrote Frank into the story as if he were there all along. Mmhm.  :azan:

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: How Did You Find Out About Berserk?
« on: August 02, 2017, 04:44:59 PM »
Back in the day, around 2002/2003, I was eating Mall Chinese food. My fortune cookie said "today your mind will be fucking blown!" Thinking nothing of it I walked into one of those video stores that no longer exist. And there it was, in all its glory, that beautiful red DVD case. 2017 and my minds still blown

I don't think I've ever had a fortune cookie tell me anything that colorful.  :isidro:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 02, 2017, 04:38:21 PM »
I've watched part 12 yesterday. Well...That scene with Gordon and the french woman made me have the same face as Albert during the whole scene... like we are only 6 parts before the ending and they are able to add this kind of boring scene

I actually ended up skipping parts of that episode, which is unheard of. I even watched the full sweeping scene and laughed at the end of it. Long scenes are fine with me, but some of these recent ones were ridiculous. Just long, meaningless pauses between dialogue. The Gordon-Albert one was particularly bad, because it's just a reprisal of most of their conversations, offering nothing new other than a few wasted minutes of everyone's lives. And their conclusion in that talk regarding Diane didn't move the needle anywhere. Basically wait and see, like it's always been.

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(but some are going to call this "genius" because it's Lynch)...

The community seems pretty split on it, honestly. Based on the feedback, I'd say a good half hated it, and the others are confusedly defending it. Then there are the crazies. I came across one guy saying it was his second favorite episode of the season.  :magni: The defense that I've read include things like long scenes lending atmosphere, and helping us understand characters better. Mmmmmhm. :schierke: In truth, I felt like the sweeping scene, this was an authoritative jab at the audience by Lynch, letting them know that it's his story, his characters, and he can tell it how he wants, even if it's not always pleasant. He's making it for him, and if you happen to be along for the ride, so much the better.

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That, and I want to see Jacoby getting skull-crushed by the woodsmen while he's broadcasting (Like Sarah Palmer said: "And men are coming...), I can't stand his scenes anymore.

And yeah, his recent rant felt like it was pushed from hilarious/entertaining to "oh boy, he's still going huh?"

One (exceedingly) bad episode doesn't make much of a dent in my overall great experience of this season. It just made me sad that they're idling away the final few hours of this show.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 31, 2017, 06:00:45 PM »
So should I skip this episode of the new season when I get to it and just go straight to the next!?

 :ganishka: ... You probably shouldn't even be in this thread  :azan:

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We are up to episode 17 of season 2 and have already watched Firewalk with Me to break things up a bit (we also had a weekend guest Sunday that had seen the series but not the film). I figured out the secret to really enjoying the season 2 grind, which is to drink beer continously throughout (to keep a good even buzz on ala Magnum).

That's good to hear. Season 2 definitely benefits from a low-stakes entry point. I don't know how anyone could get through the James-Donna-Maddy stuff with a completely sober watching experience. You might have watched Fire Walk With Me a bit too early though, since it relates to the finale.

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Since that worked out rather wonderfully, we're now a stone's throw away from season 3 and whatever changes and secrets it holds. I imagine it won't feel quite the same as watching it years ago and truly "returning" to Twin Peaks after such a time.

Yep. Dale Cooper's been in our heads for decades, so it's going to be a bit different for you, I think.

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Podcast / Re: Skullknight.NET Podcast: Episode 89
« on: July 31, 2017, 02:46:10 PM »
Thanks for the podcast guys, enjoyed this one a lot.

Thanks! Talking about ep 175 was really special, since it's probably my favorite episode in the series.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 31, 2017, 01:09:15 PM »
It made me very aggravated. I'm currently watching "Best of Steve Brule" compilations to try to wind down.

Sometimes Lynch can make a painfully long scene pay off, like when Gordon took a drag off of Diane's cigarette. But CHRIST, there were a number of scenes in this episode where I felt like we were intentionally being dragged across 10-12 minute scenes with no real revelation, all just to damage us. What did we do wrong? :judo:

I almost thought that Gordon's girl was a "Lil" situation like in Fire Walk With Me. But no, doesn't appear to be the case at all.

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Podcast / Skullknight.NET Podcast: Episode 89
« on: July 31, 2017, 02:53:08 AM »

Episode 89: Arrival [Vol 21-2] (1h 58m)

One of the series' biggest moments is here. We go through each page of the incarnation of Femto and close out the Conviction Arc.

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Subscribe to the podcast on iTunes or by plugging this address
into your favorite podcast app: http://skullknight.net/podcast/rss.xml

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 31, 2017, 01:29:20 AM »
Boy that was a real stinker, huh?

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 27, 2017, 06:05:05 PM »
This is where I'm running into trouble, because if the best is behind me, and what's behind me I didn't find so great, and even the fans think this part's not so great... then where's the great part again!? Is it the sum of the parts? Ugh! I guess it happened and I just don't get it. *puts on dunce cap* :???:

Hey, you made me watch all those crappy Magnum P.I. episodes before I could get to the good ones!  :farnese:

I don't think the best is behind you, though. I don't think I fell in love with the series until the season 2 finale, and it and the movie gave me a new appreciation for everything. There is something special about those early episodes, but they feel quite tame now, almost cute, with everything that's transpired since. 

The way that I'd explain the appeal of the show is that there's never been anything like it on TV, and I think it helped set the stage for the modern-day hour-long prime time TV dramas. It's got an atmosphere, characters, and a sense of humor that only Lynch can provide. He'll take a sharp turn in an otherwise terrifying or sad scene to show something like Andy crying next to the train where Laura was murdered because he's too emotional. Little moments like that, of which there are a half-dozen or so each (good) episode, are constantly playing with your expectations. I think the "whodunit" that launched the series got played out early on, and I stopped caring at a certain point. I don't think that's what the show did well. I just wanted to keep seeing what the characters were up to.

Also, I think your earlier perceptions of the show might have tainted your viewing of it. The legacy of the show really isn't its randomness. I think that's just how some people in the '90s perceived it before the revelations in the finale and the movie.  The series' supernatural elements really aren't weird for weirdness sake. Watching those early episodes now, there's a pattern to almost everything. Just like Dark Souls isn't great because it's "the hardest game of all time!" Twin Peaks isn't great because it's "the strangest most surreal thing you've ever seen!"


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watch to the middle of season 2, where I understand it kind of gets away from the Lynch/Frost MO anyway, then read summaries of the following episodes as Wally suggested, jump to the finale, the movie, and start season 3.

There's very little about Season 2 that you need to see to make sense of the finale and the rest. Really, there are just two characters which don't take much time to explain. I wouldn't feel too guilty about skipping past most of it if you really aren't feeling it. Though you're going to miss some great stuff with Leland and of course Leo's shoes.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 26, 2017, 02:11:40 AM »
Pause the staircase scene in the latest ep. There's some familiar, floral wallpaper in the background. Might have seen it in a particular painting of a doorway from Fire Walks With Me.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 24, 2017, 07:22:38 PM »
She's a singer not an actress, and a friend of Lynch's, who likes to hang around hot young ladies. Her singer persona is kinda oversexed as well.

My concern is more with the leering nature of some of her scenes. The butt of the joke in one scene is literally her righteous butt. It just feels cheap in an otherwise sll-star production. But hey, "SHE'S GOT THE GOODS," so maybe I just need to "fix my heart or die."  :iva:

I find Dern as Diane way more annoying.

You may as well complain about the character at this point, since no one has portrayed Diane before.

Regarding last night's ep, the standout scenes for me were the R+R shooting and of course, Gordon's experience with the vortex (at 2240 Sycamore). I was also pleased that the Jim Belushi scenes are seemingly coming to a close, after feeling long-in-the-tooth 2 episodes ago, christ. Only 7 more eps.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 23, 2017, 11:27:11 PM »
Is anybody else bothered by Tammy's distracting wiggle-walk? I wonder if the actress was specifically directed by Lynch to do that. It just doesn't look natural.

I find a lot about her problematic.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 23, 2017, 03:49:04 PM »
This chart has come in handy when revisiting Season 2.

This is awesome.

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Bummer! I still haven't gotten around to finishing the audiobook version, myself. I found a lot of the initial history to be dreadfully dry, but once I got past some of the more lengthy explanations, it was a lot more enjoyable.

I can imagine that reading the actual book is probably a better experience, because the source materials are laid out like actual notes. That's cooler than the audiobook, which even though it gets some narrations from the actual cast, their performances are mostly phoned in (Cooper's in particular, Christ!). It just bugged me the direction they went, the things they were interested in focusing on, it all seemed so tedious and peripheral to the stuff I actually care about. Maybe fans of the goddamned Martell / Packard / Horne rivalry are just bonered up for it though. That stuff on top of all the Nadine, high school football, and Josie crap that populates the book, retconning the mayor's brother into being a key character ... It just all reeked of crap, to me.

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One thing I'm confused about (based on what I've heard from others) is how there are some apparent inconsistencies with the show that have lead people to believe that the book's referencing an "alternate" Twin Peaks in which some events involving the cast are slightly different. What's your take on that?

Yeah I came across some of that after looking online for "did I miss why this book was important?" But, I don't put much stock into those notions, because it seems like a case of the fans being too familiar with the material, and see more significance in details like inconsistent maiden names and where rings were on fingers -- the kinds of details that could easily have just been oversights. The competing timeline and reality theory has been brought up a few times, over on Reddit, but consistently gets disproven by things like Jade mailing the key (and it arriving in Twin Peaks shortly after). Fans will be fans!

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: July 23, 2017, 02:40:47 PM »
but is season 2 and/or the film necessary to understand and enjoy it or are they largely ignored?

Understanding what happens in Season 2 and Fire Walk With Me is absolutely vital to following the new season. There are many scenes, characters, even props, where the meaning is left unexplained, relying on the audience to piece it together. That being said, Season 2 ...  taken at a leisurely pace, I think there are bits that are genuinely good. But they are few and far between the absolute crap. I had the pleasure of watching it with friends back when the show wasn't even on DVD yet (on tapes recorded when it was airing with commercials), and we laughed through most of it and had a blast. Watching it solo now, with the knowledge of much better things on the horizon, I can totally understand someone squirming through it.  :guts: So if you're racing to catch up with us, and I don't blame you, I'd advise reading up on what happens (this is good enough, followed by watching this video I guess? ), and then dive straight into the finale, which marks Lynch's return, and is amazing.

Also, I'm struggling to think of something that was wrong with Fire Walk With Me. As I understand it, it had bad initial reception (in 1992), I suppose because it followed on the heels of the up-and-down Season 2. But distanced from those strange early days, you won't find much to complain about now. It's quite loved by Twin Peaks fans.


Finally, hey guys, I finished the Untold History of Twin Peaks book, and I thought it was truly awful. Ask me anything!

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With my very limited knowledge of Berserk, there are only two outcomes: Guts will lose the beherit prior to a big event involving the Godhand, or Skull Knight will make use of it as he does.  :SK:

There are many possibilities. Of course, there are tons of threads on this subject, but here are a few of the things I've been thinking about lately.

Puck's affinity for that Beherit is probably going to play a role. I don't think Miura would have reinforced the connection between those two merely for comedic effect. Something we've been talking about on the podcast for the past year or so, is that Puck's proximity to the Beherit over the years could have changed its nature in some way. The foundation for that could be barytes, which have no affinity with elves, but seem to have an affinity with darkness/depression/obsession, perhaps the traces of another force at work in the Berserk universe. But we're still too far from a revelation on that front to say for sure.

Beyond that, Skull Knight may not be the only one to have used Beherits in an alternative way. There could be others. Furthermore, Beherits were recently introduced as a way to open the road of dragons, connected to a deep part of the astral world (the abyss). Perhaps Miura has ideas for exploring that a little further.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse Releases
« on: July 19, 2017, 09:53:18 PM »
Could you post a sample panel? I'm waiting for the manga scan where you can see the stippling. :serpico:

Sample from Vol 21, showing the UI
Sample from Vol 22, showing a 2-page spread

Quality looks great on devices like phones and tablets. On desktop, it's merely good enough. The convenience of having all of Berserk on my phone whenever I want it has already proven pretty useful.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse Releases
« on: July 19, 2017, 12:48:02 AM »
That's awesome. I picked up what I could afford with just a day's notice  :farnese: . Quality is good, not great. 2-page spread merging is still noticeable.

Still, this is a bold new era, folks. Time to erase the existence of all those shitty Hawks scans. Berserk has been legally scanned.

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Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse Releases
« on: July 18, 2017, 02:26:26 PM »
The manga is now available digitally on Comixology and Amazon Kindle (only up to vol.25 as of this post). :daiba:

https://www.comixology.com/Berserk-Vol-1/comics-series/1401?
https://www.amazon.com/Kentaro%20Miura/e/B003UW85ZM

Wow! Awesome move by Dark Horse!

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Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: July 17, 2017, 07:41:07 PM »
Zelda, BotW DLC 1. My "hero's path" was pretty comprehensive. There weren't too many spots on the map that I completely overlooked, but I'm combing through them now. Boy, that desert section sure is ... barren. As much as this game utterly devoured my life when I was initially playing it, my mind hasn't returned to it ever since I put it down, which is very strange. I'm hoping the extra quests in the DLC will spur me to rediscover my love for the game. We'll see!

Nier: Automata. I just finished my first playthrough (Ending A of like, 26). Really not impressed. I've heard I have to experience at least two more endings before I GET IT. So uh, I guess I'll do that? Seems like a very poorly constructed game, to me.


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