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Speculation Nation / Re: Guts's Lineage
« on: November 06, 2017, 05:34:49 PM »
I've seen such ideas as well, but don't think you'll get much argument here on the matter.

I think theories that postulate Guts being "special" to explain his strength, survival abilities, etc. are completely missing the point of the series — Guts achieved these monumental feats despite being "merely" a human, facing opponents who have given everything that mattered to them to become inhuman. Making Guts "special" through lineage would dilute all that he has suffered through to become who he is.

And that's merely my thematic explanation for why Guts is not "special." What about the matter of evidence for such a theory? It simply does not exist. Guts' origins are touched on exactly once in the series, and the focus of that scene is not a matter of his parentage, it was his incredible tenacity, even in birth. Beyond that point, parentage for Guts comes in adoptive forms, and his bloodline relatives are never mentioned. If Miura wanted readers to be curious about those things, he has had nearly 30 years of opportunities to drop hints and allude to possibilities beyond the obvious. Yet, there is simply nothing there.

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: November 03, 2017, 06:18:10 PM »
Thanks, good to see a lot of the old faces haven't slacked as much as I have.I definitely do, Although I caught up with the current chapter, I now need to reread yet to refresh the story in my head, since its had a long time to fade since my last reread.  I told my Wife how long its been since I read it, and she commented, "So this series that you've talked about the last 6 years I've known you, and you haven't even kept up to date since before I knew you."

"That's just how much you mean to me, honey"  :casca:

That was exciting.  One part of that I was unsure of was if SK inadvertently aided in Femto setting off the "Bomb" to merge worlds, or if SK was just unsuccessful in stopping it.

He was just there to slice Femto. Then his attack was manipulated and used to rupture Ganishka. He seemed rather surprised.

Awesome, It's nice to hear that as of 2009, He was thinking of Berserk as 60-70% complete.  To me that means that we may be approaching the final arc within the next 10 years.
I remember this one. 

That's true, but that's what I've said twice within the past 20 years, so we'll see :badbone:

Current Episodes / Re: Episode 351
« on: November 03, 2017, 04:12:04 PM »
Wow, after 10 years of not reading a new berserk, I have now caught back up.  Although I was hopeful they would be further by now, I am still quite happy they have gotten further in the story than I had expected.  I was still expecting them to be on Roderick's Boat making a few more stops along the way. 

Interesting, a 10-year hiatus?! SO LAZY! You've got some catching up to do :void:

Highlights over that span include:

• The community's reaction to the big Femto/SK scene, which was pretty crazy to see at the time.

That time in 2009 when Miura answered our interview questions.

Puella's translation of the Berserk Illustrations File interview

• The Berserk movie trilogy and all the discussion around it

The god-awful 2016 animation

And of course all of our podcasts

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Hardcover editions of Berserk?
« on: November 01, 2017, 11:40:49 AM »
My Akira hardcovers also shipped yesterday. The whole package is a thing of beauty. And as I admired it, it was hard not to think of how much Berserk deserves the same treatment.

Beyond the books and packaging themselves, there's the artbook that comes with it, containing pretty much everything you could want from such a book. It collects all the official colored work, all the original promotional art Otomo created for things like the anime, laserdiscs, etc., all the "front art" colorings from the collected books, along with drafts, variations, and his explanations for design ideas on each of them. Imagine such a thing for Berserk, with Miura's commentary...  :daiba:

Video Games / Re: What Are You Playing?
« on: October 30, 2017, 03:08:39 PM »
Mario Odyssey arrived a few minutes before I left for a weekend trip :ganishka: So I played about 3h of it last night. I'm enjoying it, but what has been the most exciting for me is watching my 4-year-old son enjoy it — whether he's playing or just watching me. He has had zero exposure with 3D mario games, so this is a pretty special experience for him. Needless to say, he really loves it.


It's just about what you'd expect from this kind of game. But it's not the huge leap for the brand that Zelda: BotW was, or that Mario Galaxy was. It's just a fun (often funny) 3D Mario platformer in a big world, structured more like Mario 64 than recent games.

Speaking of Mario 64, I do love how you aren't forced to end a level after getting a moon (stars for this game). In fact, you'll probably find 6-8 moons while en route to the main quest's moon. It really encourages you to explore the worlds, and not just gun it for the direction you know you're supposed to be headed in.  In M64, you could explore, but often weren't rewarded, because the levels were very goal-oriented, and a star only existed in 1-2 places in a level at a time.

The hat-control stuff is neat, but it's really just a gimmick so far — not a huge part of the game. You use it to solve a handful of puzzles per level. Most of the time, you'll be doing standard 3D Mario platforming, perhaps with 2-5 seconds of enemy possession interspersed in the course of a minute. By comparison, the gravity in Mario Galaxy was an all-encompassing feature that influenced how the levels were designed and what you could do within those worlds.

As far as level design goes, it feels like it has a lot in common with Mario 3D Land, writ large, with full multi-path zones to explore, instead of a streamlined experience. This means there's a lot to discover, but also sometimes you will be sort of aimlessly wandering the borders of the world, looking for secrets, not sure exactly where the next moon will be. The level design also changes slightly depending on different world events. Not sure how consistent that will be for all worlds, but it's definitely a big factor for one world.

I'm of course excited to play more, but I can't say that I'm on fire to jump back in.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« on: October 30, 2017, 01:32:16 PM »
That's great. It seemed progressively more likely that DH would localize this, given the recent attention they've given Berserk's success. No release date projected here, which is to be expected. I'd guess a year or so, based on their previous history.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 27, 2017, 04:44:26 PM »
On the other hand, I don't even think a film series is the best choice for something like this for the reasons you laid out, and a TV series is obviously no longer the death sentence by low expectations it once was, but rather often finer drama than anything at the movies these days (like I said, as good as 2049 was, it can't help but feel shallow compared to, say, Westworld). Calling HBO? Netflix? Amazon (which we heard wants it's own GoT)? You guys have any billions left to bring Dune to life, even as a write off? It'll be better received now than the Confederate fanfic written by male Hollywood power players, I promise! =)

Part of me wants it to be a film for esoteric nerd reasons, but a series would more easily fit the mold. That being said, I can count on one hand the number of serialized dramas that have left an impression on me, particularly recently. I feel like these studios have become pros at pushing out lots of content, creating a container with a substantial pitch, pilot and conclusion, and then just filling the rest of the glass with piss. Netflix is in particularly guilty of this, stringing out their series' structure with filler, dragging B-plots on for 5 episodes and then resolving them suddenly in minutes. Ugh... Hey speaking of which guys, Stranger Things 2 is out!

Oh yeah, that mini-golden age was so incestuous! I heard Walter Hill talk about it a bit on the WTF pod, I don't know if you heard it (I know you've been a listener in the past) but it's worth it for that alone.

Nope! I'll look for that one. I have a road trip this weekend.

 I check in on the show every 6 months or so. Sometimes that show is amazing. But it's absolutely contingent on the guest being solid and receptive to Maron's conversational style. Much of the time, it's just boring to me, or feels like they're running down the clock as much as they can. I have the same problem with WTF as I do with the Jimmy Pardo podcast -- both can  be phenomenal, but it's too much inside baseball. Whether it's comedy or Hollywood, the way they talk about those industries lifts the curtain in a way that's just really off-putting to me.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 27, 2017, 12:45:48 AM »
As long as he doesn't have the same reverence for David Lynch's version that he clearly does for Blade Runner. :ganishka:

I don't think there should be any concerns for that. Lynch's Dune has never been regarded as the authoritative take on the book, so it wouldn't make much sense for Villeneuve to attempt to mimick it.

Instead, I imagine (hope?) that Villeneuve will attempt to offer his interpretation of the novel. This both excites me and makes me uncomfortable. The novel is epic science fiction, and has long deserved a more dignified seat at the table among sci-fi films — if anything, just to get more people to read the damned book and realize how awesome it is. The problem is, I don't think Dune is something you can comfortably squeeze into a feature-length film. Even ignoring the vast amount of set up time necessary to digest the arrangement of houses, economy, technology, history that makes the scale of the opening act carry weight, there's a lot of character development, passages of time, that don't lend themselves to a single breezy sit-down experience, even at 2h 44 min. And if the solution is to trim those aforementioned parts, then like Studio4C cutting out the inconvenient Bonfire of Dreams sequence, I'd rather the attempt just not be made. But I'm getting ahead of myself  :void:

What if Ridley Scott had done Dune back in his prime and we ended up with an impeccable sci-fi trilogy of Alien, Dune, and Blade Runner...

It's funny that you bring that up, because a significant chunk of the creative energies behind Jodorowsky's ill-fated Dune were eventually what gave birth to Alien.

I acknowledge this will make me sound like an old man, but is Rick & Morty from the same mind as House of Cosbys?

Vagabond / Re: Inoue News Archive
« on: October 26, 2017, 02:23:26 PM »
Hmm, so ah... I guess I'll ask: What about Vagabond?

Speculation Nation / Re: So i have this theory
« on: October 25, 2017, 05:29:26 PM »
The trouble with all the edgiest sacrifice ideas in Berserk is that the closest relationships are between people where one or both have already been sacrificed and so are apparently ineligible.

Indeed, for a variety of reasons I don't expect the beherit to be used in a traditional manner. It's been around for too long to end up creating "yet another" apostle for Guts to kill. I think it will be used in an alternate way, possibly involving Puck.

And the runner-up relationships aren't close enough to have the narrative punch to make it interesting storytelling.  I mean, picture Isidro doing it.  My reaction would be 'huh' rather than 'shock!!'  and that's not what Miura wants at all.  We'd have to build up to something with Rickert or even Sonia or Mule to get a sacrifice worth writing. 

Well I'd add Serpico to that list, with a caveat. His future is certainly up in the air right now. But I'm not sure him sacrificing Farnese (and Guts immediately destroying him) would make much sense, or lead to a more interesting story scenario.

My current favorite prospect for sleeper mystery is what is really wrong with Azan.  But since nothing in Elfhelm is freaked out about him it's not likely to be anything that crazy.

If anything were wrong with him in that regard, it'd have to have been something that could slip past Schierke all this time as well. I think we pretty much know Azan's situation, it just hasn't been explicitly laid out in the story yet.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: What are you reading?
« on: October 23, 2017, 06:30:42 PM »
Soon will be reading this!

It's the 6 big Akira volumes, hardcover, with a new translation. It also comes with an artbook featuring all the official colored art. It's up on Amazon for $135 if anyone else is interested.

I can only dream that one day Berserk will get a similar treatment... How many vols would it take though? Maybe it should just be sold as a bookshelf  :magni:

Anime Asylum / Re: Berserk 2016 English dub home release January 16, 2018
« on: October 21, 2017, 06:36:35 PM »
With his monstrous blade, Dragonslayer, he and a band of unlikely allies will face danger unlike any they’ve ever experienced before. The answers he seeks lie shrouded in the night.

What are those answers, exactly...?

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Video Biography of Miura (Chinese)
« on: October 19, 2017, 06:30:36 PM »
What an enigma is Mr. Miura. I can't think of anyone who has lived a more private life.

Come on, that's a bit of an overstatement. Aside from choosing not to openly engage in social media (we know he's a member of NicoNico Douga) and refrains from picture taking, Miura's not that mysterious. Hell, he recently was a key speaker at a seminar! He shares what he's interested in 6-12 times out of the year, and a half-dozen times in his life has been the subject of in-depth interviews widely distributed by magazines. There are far more popular and notorious recluses — Bill Watterson and J.D. Salinger come to mind.  And I don't know a TON about other mangaka, but I would bet that there are others who choose to lead more private lives. Miura might stick out because Berserk has been going a long time, but I don't think he's that special in this regard.

And while I think a lot of us might feel starved of content surrounding his personal life, I've been thinking about that recently, and what it might be like if he was super active on say Twitter or Facebook. Perhaps our high opinions on him might change, if ever so slightly. Perhaps we'd get more than we bargained for? I'll quote Trent Reznor (if for no other reason than he was on Twin Peaks recently).

That's an interesting thought, but Miura probably isn't going to be the guy making asinine complaints on Twitter. 

I've considered what might be different if Miura were more open about things like the hiatuses, and I don't think more information would change anything. At the end of the day, he's going to release it when it makes sense for his schedule, which he dictates.  If he wrote explicitly about his health, mental or otherwise, preventing him from releasing Berserk like he did in his 20s, people would still complain about the rate of release, because they're simply rabid for more, regardless of the reasoning.

I'm in the camp I believe most of you are in, where we'd probably go right on respecting and loving Kentaro Miura just as much if not more than we always have if he decided to share work in progress art and cat pictures. But I can't help imagine a world, somewhere between's CS:GO and Hearthstone channels, where a master of his craft makes music-accompanied progress on a work at a never-before-broadcasted pace, and may or may not stream iDOLM@STER in between panels.

Not sure I can follow you on that last part. Miura's pretty old school. I don't think he'd set up a 24/7 live cam of his work habits.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Video Biography of Miura (Chinese)
« on: October 19, 2017, 12:09:37 AM »
Yep, the bit with  the Miuranger's pages kinda gave me hope for the legitimacy of the photo.

Also, I'm not sure, but I think is Chinese.
Or, at least, it's Chinese according to Google Translate.

Yep it is, I'd have known too if I had listened to it at the time.  :ganishka: Anyway, thanks for sharing.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Video Biography of Miura (Chinese)
« on: October 18, 2017, 11:28:49 PM »
I think you kind of buried the lead there, Raffo. Yet another b+w photo of Miura in the '90s isn't really a big deal. But that video shows sketches of Miuranger, the manga he made in grade school for his friends.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse releasing guidebook March 14, 2018
« on: October 18, 2017, 12:44:00 AM »
Neat to be able to read the interview at my leisure, I own the Japanese one as well so as Walter said, rest is pretty meh.

By the way, what is this illustrations guide you guys are talking about? Don't think I've ever heard about it.

It's an artbook (the only real one for Berserk) released in 1997, featuring a long in-depth interview with Miura. The translation for it is here, thanks to Puella and our Patreon backers.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse releasing guidebook March 14, 2018
« on: October 17, 2017, 04:33:54 PM »
Indeed, I have been wondering why they never bothered to make an English version of the artbook(s) (can't renenber if their is more then one for I have only one in french). Maybe they don't have the rights to make them?

Well they released the illustrations guide in other countries, so I don't see why the US would have any more trouble than them. It's probably merely a business decision on DH's part. They've explained a few times how they're very risk-averse when it comes to Berserk, ordering reprints of only hundreds of volumes at a time so they won't overshoot demand (vol 33-34 are currently sold out, btw), which is why I was surprised to see them localize this particular book.

One question though, are the romanized names in the book considered the real spelling for the characters? I know it has been discussed in the guide book thread at some point but not sure at 100% about it.

Yes, some of us had problems with a few of the name spellings (Mozguz / Burkilaka / Gurunberd, to name a few). As always, even spellings from official sources have to be questioned, because there's a language barrier. For what it's worth, the spellings in the character guide section of volumes has been on point for years. Then the guidebook came and raised more questions.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: October 17, 2017, 04:02:29 PM »

Wow!  My face while watching. :ganishka: Alex should ditch his dayjob and become the key Twin Peaks theorycrafter.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Dark Horse releasing guidebook March 14, 2018
« on: October 17, 2017, 03:59:04 PM »
Good on DH for releasing supplementary materials like this. I wonder why they never did the same for the Illustrations Guide? I guess it helps that the printing format of the guidebook is the same as the manga, whereas artbooks are a different beast entirely...

Either way, this means we'll get an official translation of the huge Miura interview, which is awesome. Having the rest of the guidebook translated, well, it's kind of hard to get excited for it, since I already own the Japanese one.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 14, 2017, 02:11:54 AM »
I did dig the atmosphere

Then you liked the movie  :badbone:

ominous Goslian look on my face (great casting for that part btw, definitely the role he was born to play =)

He's 1 Genuine Human Bean! And a real hero.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 12, 2017, 01:18:22 AM »
How do you feel about rumors of Denis doing the next Dune? It's again another movie that doesn't need a follow up and yet, it'll happen anyway ... so given that predicament (as a fan), is Denis the best man for the job? 

Similar to when Studio4C announced plans to adapt the Golden Age into a movie trilogy, I think cramming Dune into a feature-length film is a bad idea. Villeneauve has proven himself as a capable guy for scifi, but Dune is like, my baby. If anything, I hope him being attached will draw more people to the novel, because as popular as it is, I don't think it's ever really gotten its due (really, not different from Berserk in this respect).
It hit me on the subway this morning that perhaps it's not as obvious as it seems and that maybe it was still all orchestrated by Wallace? Luv could have killed K when she had the chance before swimming back to the car, but she didn't. Maybe she had orders not to kill him so it's orchestrated that K kills her (I'm shrugging this off as I type it cos it sounds ridiculous) and so both, Deckard + K lead him to the child he's been looking for. It's a big big stretch but Wallace talking about how the meeting between Deckard and Rachel was orchestrated was a bit bonkers and I didn't see coming.

Nah, I don't buy that. Why would Ana have twisted the knife? She was going for the kill. Furthermore, there's no signal that it's the case, so it'd be purely hypothetical. I think Wallace just fucked up.

Walter... I am interested in seeing how much of a lasting influence Blade Runner 2049 has on the Theatrical Medium over the next 30 years.

Probably not much. I enjoyed the hell out of it, but it was undeniably derivative in terms of what it offered as a movie experience, compared to the original movie. Now in terms of scifi movie storytelling, perhaps it'll raise the bar a bit, something like what Children of Men did at the time.

As Blade Runner 2049 was a near flawless film with the exception of some lingering shots

Come on... near flawless? That's a little over the top. And if lingering shots were your problem, then I don't know how you got through the first movie. It's far more slow moving in terms of cinematography.

And I'm not saying art-house films like 2049 shouldn't be made

Blade Runner 2049 wasn't an art-house film by any stretch of the definition. It's a Columbia Pictures movie distributed by Sony and Warner Bros. It's just about as mainstream as you can get.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 11, 2017, 03:04:42 PM »
This is really annoying to read with the spoiler tags, so here it is in a Medium post:

Blade Runner 2049 is a gorgeous film. Let’s start there.

Table the baby story for later, folks. Just take a look at it all. Drink it all in (hey now, don’t drink too much though — this is a 2h43m movie). The narrow glimpses of neon streets between the manicured skyscrapers. The dominating walls shielding the city from the ocean (fuck you nature, we’re California, the techno Babylon!). The smog layered on top of the remnants of art deco design from the era of the first movie.

The primary strength of Blade Runner was its futuristic spectacle, which somehow miraculously hasn’t worn thin across 30 years. That movie had atmosphere so thick it was almost tangible. And this movie somehow lives up to that, or at least, high enough so it’s not an embarrassing sidekick. Though it seems less concerned with chewing up the visual set pieces than turning a paranoid eye towards the MacGuffin-driven plot. That’s unfortunate, but certainly not a wasted effort altogether.
I don’t need to explain to this crowd how influential Blade Runner is, and thus, what a terrifying feat it is to pick up on its trail and attempt to make a new story truly matter. These were some big shoes to fill. So I appreciate how well this movie straddled the line of being a sequel while also being its own thing. I went into this whole endeavor pretty much grossed out by the idea, was somewhat softened by the early reviews being out-of-this-world, and about 10 minutes into the movie, I got it. I understood why that world deserved to be revisited.
There are so many small touches (and many not so small) to portray the quality of life for humanity spiraling downward, despite the luxury that’s available. Alongside 2049, 2019 looks like a Golden Age. Learning right from the jump that the Tyrell Corporation was bankrupt and replaced by Wallace Corp, something even bigger and more powerful, with an even tighter grip on humanity’s throat, was a nice cyberpunk touch. Though perhaps its my perception, but they kind of hedged their bets there. Tyrell made out to be a businessman/benevolent genius in the end, with Wallace being more of an aggressor, rabidly intent on exploiting an entire race to achieve his ends.
Speaking of which, I know he’s been a controversial actor recently (I still primarily associate him with My So-Called Life…) but I really loved Leto’s Wallace, who somehow embodies a melange of hipster-techie-zen master-Satan. Listening to him prattle was like hearing behind-the-scenes of a Google or Apple keynote, 30 years from now (“7 planets … WE SHOULD OWN THE STARS”). And then I read that the initial casting choice was David Bowie (FUCK!!!). Wallace’s on-screen real estate is brief, but his presence is felt in the architecture and the creeping lighting that’s in every Wallace Corp building shot. It was unclear to me how his master plan of reproductive-capable replicants would bring humanity to the stars (is it truly only a matter of worker production?), but fuck it, sounds great and terrifying. Also, I was so, SO bummed out we didn’t get a chance to see his futuristic, off-world torture tech (so demented that not even this rotten version of Earth can sustain it), though I knew it was a promise that couldn’t be delivered on.
If Wallace and his dense, layered diatribes are one end of the acting spectrum, then Gosling’s K are at the other. I was not a huge fan of his, but at least he wasn’t a barrier for the rest of the film, which was my fear. So weird that they left in that awkward, found-footage conversation between him and Robin Wright about Ryan Gosling lacking a soul, right?

K’s a vessel for the narrative, and a great punching bag (did Ford write into his contract that if he works with Gosling, he mandates a certain number of punches to the face?), but not much else. And that’s a bummer — but that was inarguably his role: He was supposed to be a second-class citizen who represses his feelings and simply obeys. I suppose they chose the right actor! He was rationed precisely one emotion, he used it well, and that’s all she wrote.

[BTW, Ford did actually punch Gosling in the face on the set.]
Instead, what I found interesting wasn’t in the script, but on the periphery: K’s station in the world, and what that said about replicants and blade runners. That placating little bow that K has to do in the presence of humans at the police department was a nice touch, and of course the intense, verbal assault of the [evolved] Voigt-Kampff test, which has a fascinating new function — we know who the replicants are now, so the test is to reinforce their servitude.

K is persecuted as a replicant within the force, and outside he’s persecuted as a blade runner. On that note, I couldn’t quite tell if he were treated that way on the outside because they knew he was a replicant or because he was a blade runner. My understanding is that replicant production had exploded, and thus his persecution would be a reaction to his job, not what he was. Though it’s interesting that the movie doesn’t spend much time on that predicament — really just the title exposition and a brief sales pitch scene from Wallace’s Luv.

I found most of Joi’s scenes to be indulgent and clichè. I’m honestly not sure what would be lost if she were removed completely. K being a sweet guy? They took Gibson’s idea for Idoru and assigned her a disposable role in the story. The only interesting angle for Joi for me was questioning where the line between her individual persona and herself as the product was drawn. It’s hard not to question whether an AI programmed to be a supportive, loving companion could truly have genuine feelings, or whether that was merely her only avenue for expression (K: “You don’t have to say that”). I suppose it’s an interesting question to consider, but I don’t think the film focuses enough on it to draw out an interesting answer for it.

Of course, the primary role that Joi plays is reinforcing K’s notion that he is the REAL BOY. However, the revelation that K wasn’t actually the “chosen one” seemed telegraphed a little too early on. The story seemed so headed in that direction by the halfway mark that it never felt solid to me. The problem was, once the truth was revealed, it’s too late in the film to do anything with the idea other than ruminate on the presumptive next steps in a human-replicant war, leaving a rather messily unresolved scenario. The ending is of course unconcerned with these practical problems, and instead, trades up for an emotional reunion, and one that in a thematic way, parallels Deckard and Rachel being rejoined to flee at the end of the first movie. I’ll take it.
Speaking of which, I really felt bad for Rachel’s actor, Sean Young, in the scenes where Wallace is holding up her character’s skull. They brought back Harrison Ford and Edward James Olmos (that was a delightful surprise), but for Sean Young, all they could spare were her remains. Oh but wait, they did bring her ba-*BLAM* Welp… Sorry Sean!

Ford’s Deckard didn’t bring much to the table for me, aside from a few well-written quips ([is the dog real?] “I dunno, why don’t you ask him?”). He didn’t really feel like Deckard to me. He felt like Harrison Ford in his sweats. Of course, 30 years changes a man, particularly given what he’d been through in the interim. And I didn’t check, but I think it’s a pretty safe bet that his number of lines is trumped by the number of times he punches K in the face.

While we’re on the subject of this couple, I’ve seen a lot of confusion still about Deckard’s character and whether or not he’s a replicant. This is, of course, the continuation of a nerd debate that has raged for decades, across multiple cuts of the original film. But from my viewing of 2049, I didn’t have many questions left.

* Gaff says Deckard was “retired”.
* We learn that Deckard went on the run with the remaining old-era replicants, in fear of being retired.
* Fear of other blade runners hunting him is likely why he’s so prepared for combat when he encounters K.
* Wallace regards him as “a wonder” at his role in creating the first replicant child. He ponders whether Tyrell “designed” their coupling to begin with.

None of these new bits put his replicant nature in question. Instead, they’re all evidence for it. All of this stacked on top of the old film’s recut leaving little to question, it doesn’t seem like much of a puzzle to me. Of course, Scott says he’s a replicant, Ford insists that he’s a human, and Villeneuve is mum. So I suppose we’re back to our own individual interpretations, despite all the additional material in this new movie.

I saved a bit here to go over some … well, they aren’t plot holes exactly; they’re just rough parts in the story that bothered me. I wanted to share them here in case someone can guide me through anything I missed.

1) Security in that police department is a bit… light, right? Yes I understand that Wallace’s personal assistant likely has ways of cloaking her involvement and deflecting any actual repercussions to murdering someone in a police department, but it just seemed a little unrealistically sloppy, given all the attention to detail elsewhere in the movie. That scene is there because it’s the first tip of the hat to Luv's lethality. But also, maybe they just wanted to kill that dork in a really cool way? Even odds, I’d wager.

2) Was Wallace, Mr. I Own The Fucking Stars, really going to miss the fact that his nominally protected caravan was effortlessly dispatched and NOT track them down? Isn’t going straight to the one they’re trying to hide, just MAYBE not the brightest idea?

3) Are we seriously to believe that the entire story of Blade Runner was a setup so that Deckard and Rachel would ultimately fuck? That seems like an unreasonably convoluted retcon. If preserving Deckard for that act was so important to Tyrell, why was he given such a dangerous profession and ordered to track down lethal replicants? Seems a bit rash for a carefully laid out experiment.

Around the halfway point, I wasn’t much concerned with the story anymore, though the script really wanted me to be. In that respect, it reminded me of something I liked about Blade Runner. It’s so thick with atmosphere and so light on the narrative that it almost would work better as a silent film. I used to joke about recutting that movie so it would work as a silent film, but of course, never bothered. Griff can tell you about his recut of Minority Report though, he actually pulled off something we'd talked about doing — cutting out the fat and making it better.

This is all to say that what I appreciated so much about 2049 wasn’t where the story took us, but just letting us live in that world a little longer, seeing where it went (and where it was going), and them NOT shitting the bed in the process. That was so much more than I expected to get.

If I had to give it a number, I’d say 8/10, though it seems pretty silly, because if you’re still reading this, it means you’re into sci-fi, so you should just go fucking watch it.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 09, 2017, 03:40:03 AM »
Hey, I liked your original post with the expanded points on it's depth or lack thereof, it's place in Nolan's repertoire, and that kind of purportedly multiple-viewing movie in general.

Yeah, that was only my fifth draft! I often simplify my posts after writing them out in a stream of consciousness manner.

. IDK, I don't feel like any of these movies are truly not goopy;

It's a sliding scale, not a binary. And Interstellar is like early 90s Nickelodeon: GAK'D!!!

it's not like actual geniuses on the cutting edge of human understanding are writing Hollywood screenplays that are changing the way we think or teaching us something new, unless... Blade Runner 2049? =)

Nope Blade Runner transcends film as a medium, and the final words are "Cyber Rosebud."

And if you really want to kick the hornet's nest we'd bring up the P word, but I'm not gonna!

We should rename the thread to Griffith Bound.

Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: October 09, 2017, 01:07:13 AM »
Nothing to be ashamed of, Interstellar IS awesome! I have no idea why the usually slutty pop syfy fandem drew the line with its relative flaws, despite all its strengths, yet falls for every other one trick pony that comes through the stable (Edge of Tomorrow OMG I'M CUMMING!!!!). I'm guessing it's cynicism for show because the movie dares to mix sci-fi with unabashed sentimentality.

Whew, I didn't meant to kick a hornet's nest! Interstellar was by no means a bad movie. I just don't think its goopy quality has aged very well -- at least, for me. I went back and watched it again about a half-year ago. Didn't do much for me, and I felt a bit ashamed for praising it so highly at the time (2014).  :sad:

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