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Character Cove / Re: Casca's love for Guts
« on: April 20, 2015, 08:36:33 PM »
But in the manga the two never say "I love you" : I think it's the Japanese way.

Another part of this might also be these two character's personalities. They are both used to maintaining an outwardly tough persona and they are both very action oriented, maybe not so much the types to speak their love as just to show it. The fact that either of them let their guards down enough to become as intimate and open with each other as they did was such a big step for them. I really like that picture of them together that didn't appear in the context of the story, but was just on a page by itself,  where Casca is climbing on Guts. Something about it makes me think of a male and female lion being playful and affectionate with each other. They are being sweet with each other, but something about their expressions tells me they are one dangerous pair! :guts: Both of them formidable warriors and not to be messed with.

But what also is notable is that their relationship was just beginning to blossom when their lives were irrevocably changed. I feel like there's a lot more to come between those two.

I definitely agree. They had just gotten started and there was so much crazy stuff going on, they didn't have much time to find out what a relationship between them would be like. Plus I think Casca still had some feelings for Griffith that needed sorting through. I think she loves Guts, but the fact that she was still feeling jealous of Charlotte during Griffith's rescue was an indication that she still had some things to put to rest as far as that went. Not surprising since she had been infatuated with Griffith for years. Of course that was pre-eclipse. After what Femto did to her and Guts, not to mention murdering the other members of the Band of the Falcon, I think her feelings for him will now be more like angry/confused/hurt/disappointed. When/if Casca regains her sanity she and Guts will have a lot of issues to deal with. It's not going to be easy for these two, but I really hope they can come to have a close and loving relationship again.  :casca:

There are quite a few moments that stick out to me. Those that have already been mentioned of course, but also when Casca walks to Guts' empty room and holds his broken sword to her face in volume 9. A wordless but very effective scene.

I really like that one, too. Very poignant moment.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: How Many People Did You Get Into Berserk?
« on: April 20, 2015, 07:31:00 PM »
None! Most of the people I know wouldn't understand the series at all. They'd probably flip through a few pages and then start worrying that I was becoming a devil worshiper.  :mozgus: LOL I keep my Berserk on the downlow. That's one reason I was so happy to find this forum! :guts:

Character Cove / Re: Casca's love for Guts
« on: April 16, 2015, 09:03:37 PM »
I love the scene between Guts and Casca where they're about to go into the secret passageway to rescue Griffith and Casca realizes Guts is worried about her. She starts telling him off and then looks back at him and reminds him that she can watch his back. I feel the love right there. She's saying they're a team and can take care of each other.

Character Cove / Re: Chich and the language of flowers
« on: April 14, 2015, 01:47:07 PM »
Why am I not surprised Miura would research things to this extent.

It is pretty cool for sure! His care with detail and research into his subjects are just a few of the things that make Berserk such a great series! :guts:

Creation Station / Re: 3D Zodd sculpt and other stuff
« on: April 14, 2015, 01:44:01 AM »
Wow, very cool! The expressions are great. Yes, really looks like Guts.  :guts:

Hi there!

Well, I've got to confess I found the length to be a bit daunting. I did watch the first 20 minutes so far. It's interesting viewing  Berserk images accompanied by piano music! Kind of evoked the feeling of a memory at times. Also made me think of those old time silent movie theaters where the film would have a pianist playing the music.  :serpico: Your playing is really good!  :ubik: Sometimes the images felt a little disjointed to me. Particularly in the opening song they just seemed a bit random at times. After that they seem to have a better flow and I do like your choice of images in some places. Guess this probably wasn't all that helpful, but those were my impressions. Welcome to the forum!  :guts:

Update: I finished watching/listening. Your choice of songs and your execution of them fit the scenes very well. The music really carried me along through the narrative. Your choice of images through most of this is good. The ending is a bit random, image-wise, but I'm sure you're aware of that.
I can tell that a lot of heart went into making this and it shows. You are a talented pianist! I really enjoyed this. Thank you!  :ubik:

Character Cove / Re: Chich and the language of flowers
« on: April 13, 2015, 10:56:49 PM »
I'm glad you all found it interesting!  :serpico: Sadly, I think you're right about Chich dying.  :judo: That last scene definitely had a very melancholy feel to it and the other things Aazealh mentioned seal the deal. SO sad!!!!

She just had this desperate desire to be with her comrades, and it foresaw what would happen to Guts soon afterward.
Good point!

I was poking around looking at info on shepherd's purse and found out it's more than just a pretty flower. It's also known as a medicinal herb. Another name for it was "poor man's pharmacy". It was used for lots of different ailments, among them being treatment of wounds. Here's an excerpt from the article about it: "Shepherd’s purse is best known for its effectiveness as a hemostatic – it can stop bleeding or oozing from wounds when applied locally, or internal hemorrhaging if used systemically." So no wonder Chich's leaves were so helpful to Guts. Apart from the magic Chich uses her plant is also healing. Miura might have had multiple reasons for choosing shepherd's purse to be the flower in this story. Here's the sites I found the info on :

Character Cove / Chich and the language of flowers
« on: April 12, 2015, 03:27:39 PM »
I really like Chich, the little flower spirit. She's so cute!  :serpico: I saw on the forum that you had identified her flower as a shepherd's purse. I think it's cool that authors will often use a certain type of flower for a reason. According to the language of flowers, which is a way of communicating using flowers, the shepherd's purse means "I offer you my all." That's certainly what Chich did for Guts. Anyway, I just thought it was kinda neat. Here's a link to a site about the language of flowers if it interests you.

I hope Chich made it and the other flower spirits were able to help her. After Guts brings her flower to the meadow to be with all the others and the wind takes it away, there was that comment referring back to when Chich was wondering if the other flowers would find her. I was was torn as to whether to take that as a hint that the other flowers do find her and she will be ok or whether it was emphasizing how sad it was that Chich didn't live long enough to meet the other flowers. I like to hope it was the former, though!.

Just pledged! I'm getting a lot out of the forum, the podcasts, and the translations, so I wanted to give a little bit back. I know all of it takes time and work and as a Berserk fan who's enjoying all the content, I appreciate it!  :ubik:

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk Climbing the Charts on Amazon
« on: April 10, 2015, 09:05:01 PM »
That being said, if I had seen those movies with no previous exposure to Berserk, I'd never have investigated the series further.

The movies were pretty bad. I think it would have definitely been easy to dismiss Berserk if you were going only on them. They might have been enough to get me to check into the series since I like the medieval subject matter and movies have such a reputation for not doing the books they're based on justice. Assuming the movies are the reason for the increase in sales for the manga, they must be enough to make some people curious at least. Maybe the movies don't seem as bad if you haven't already read the books. It was hard for me to view them objectively since I had already read the part of the manga they covered when I watched them.

Berserk Miscellaneous / Re: Berserk Climbing the Charts on Amazon
« on: April 10, 2015, 06:31:13 PM »
Wow, pretty awesome! I thought the movies could have been a lot better, but maybe they'll at least serve to bring more fans to the manga, where they can experience Berserk's true greatness.  :ubik:

Character Cove / Re: Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 07, 2015, 08:27:11 PM »
I do see where you and Walter are coming from. It's definitely possible I made more out of it than there was meant to be. Miura is pretty good about drawing the reader's attention to something that's meaningful and it's true that wasn't specifically done here. Also, when I think about the overall reason within the context of the story as to why there would be a parallel drawn between these two I can admit it does feel like a bit of a stretch.  :azan: :mozgus:

I don't think what happened in the Golden Age between him and Casca is supposed to mean that he's over it. Guts finding love and acceptance with Casca did bring him a lot of peace, but it doesn't erase his past. Miura does a great job of making his characters very human and, like any traumatizing experience in a person's life, it's not as simple as just getting over it and POOF! you're cured.

Plus the Black Swordsman arc is a major lowpoint for Guts. He's just been betrayed by Griffith, the person he thought of as his best friend, and witnessed the rape of the woman he loves at his hands. I mean that's bound to bring up trust issues!

Character Cove / Re: Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 05, 2015, 01:16:36 AM »
I can't wait to see how things will go for him in Elfhelm! :azan:

Me, too! It'll be interesting to see what awaits him there. I really like his character, too, by the way.

Sorry I didn't respond a little more the other day. I was trying to collect my thoughts and sometimes that can take me a while.  :slan:

I'm still convinced that there's some meaning to these two character's physical similarities. Now, I know if you don't think they look all that much alike, then the argument becomes way less convincing and that's all good. It's a matter of opinion. I think they do, so I'm just discussing my own thinking. To me, even leaving out any other similarities besides the nose, it's still enough. It's just too unusual a nose for me to discount! LOL The fact that these two characters who have similar looks (to me) inhabit the same story arc can't be a coincidence. Now, here was the key that made it come together for me.

Meanwhile, what about Mozgus? He's a fanatic, that much is easy to see. But is he really following a moral code? Or is he just a hypocrite, using his power to cruelly subjugate and abuse the weak and helpless? I think we all know the answer. Mozgus has no morals, because morality is about doing what's right, not conforming to rules or customs. And Mozgus interprets the Holy Book as it pleases him so he can do what's wrong. In this, he's actually the complete opposite of Azan. But it's not just a matter of conviction. Mozgus had an extreme fervor, far stronger than that of Azan's. I don't think there's any doubt that in a hypothetical situation Azan would always bend the rules to protect innocents from harm, because he really only has a single rule to follow: doing what's right. Being honorable. Mozgus, on the other hand, is a religious extremist. He uses the pretense of an established code of conduct (one that is not personal to him) to oppress people to a point that renders said code of conduct meaningless.

So I think it's a lot more complicated than just being a positive and a negative example of the same trait. I can see why you would draw a parallel, but it's only superficial in my opinion.

I think the direction I was going with this was initially wrong because I wasn't looking at what a phony Mozgus was. Now I've revised my theory! Mozgus is false while Azan is true. False is such a great description for Mozgus. You probably already figured this out, but it explains to me why he looks so bizarre. When I first saw him I thought for sure he was an apostle, but he was human (before the egg apostle did his thing anyway). But he looks that way because he's a false prophet, so to speak, hence his stiff, artificial appearance. True is also a great description for Azan. He is one of the most pure-hearted and really good characters in the story. He also walks the walk. His good deeds and bravery are proof of his true faith and morality.

Well, anyway. I hope I don't seem overly stubborn. I just wanted to share my opinion, even if I am the only one who thinks it!  :serpico:

Character Cove / Re: Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 03, 2015, 05:39:03 PM »
Thank you both for your thoughts. I was just pondering something I had noticed and wondering what, if anything, other people's views were about it. I appreciate the insights you shared about these characters. Very cool!  :guts:

Character Cove / Re: Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 03, 2015, 04:32:10 PM »
No, I see more than that in their physical similarity. Smallish, widely set eyes, very wide mouths, and they are both quite stockily built.

Character Cove / Re: Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 03, 2015, 04:20:57 PM »
Here's a couple more.

Character Cove / Re: Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 03, 2015, 02:16:33 PM »
I think any similarities in their appearance (which I don't really see...) are just coincidence.

The similarities in their looks really stood out to me, but maybe that's just me.
Of course the most notable is that nose. It struck me as pretty unusual. Very flat and square. Maybe they are "hard-nosed" characters.  :schnoz:

Also thematically, I don't think they're similar at all. Mozgus is a zealot, but Azan doesn't strike me as a particularly religious guy; he's just dedicated himself completely to the cause he serves.

I wasn't originally looking at it from a religious angle necessarily. The last thing you mentioned was actually my point, that they both devote themselves completely to their convictions and the cause they serve. They both adhere very strictly to a set of principles they've decided to follow and it seems like there's not much room in either of their worldviews to step outside this "box".

I hadn't thought of Azan as being that religious when I wrote this post either. I had thought of his main guiding philosophy as the code of knightly conduct. After going back and looking over some things, though, it does appear Azan was pretty religious. In volume 14, a couple of pages into the Lost Children chapter when Serpico is teasing Azan about getting married, Azan mentions that he's "something of a clergyman". Also on the page before that Azan's line about "A miracle of our solemn and dreadful God" sounds like something a devoted follower would say, so maybe religion is more a part of the picture than I had thought.

Character Cove / Re: Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 03, 2015, 05:26:17 AM »
Could be! LOL  :mozgus:

Character Cove / Mozgus and Azan, two sides of the same coin?
« on: April 03, 2015, 04:27:52 AM »
I thought it was odd how similar Mozgus and Azan look. They are both very unusual looking characters, so I find it strange that they share some key features. Do you think this is a coincidence or was it done for some reason? They seem to have more in common than just their stocky figures, wide faces, and large flat noses. Mozgus and Azan both have very strong convictions. They view the world and act according to deeply held personal beliefs and moral codes. Maybe Azan is the positive example of this and Mozgus is the negative example?

Mozgus is way more surreal looking, though. He looks like he's carved out of a block of wood or something, while Azan looks much more normal, so not sure what that means. Maybe to highlight that Mozgus has given himself over to total fanaticism, while Azan hasn't? Mozgus's face is as rigid as his thinking?

What do you all make of this?

Speculation Nation / Re: Flora's Reputation Among Elfhelm Magic Users
« on: April 02, 2015, 03:24:47 AM »
Close to the end of volume 27, when the gang is at the cottage by the sea, they bring up Elfhelm and Schierke says she has heard of it from Flora. It seems that Flora must have given Schierke a favorable impression of it because Schierke's description and overall attitude towards going to Elfhelm are enthusiastic. She says she's always wanted to go there and see it for herself. It's never made clear whether Flora has been there or not, but since it seems that what she told Schierke was of a positive nature I don't think Flora would have had any bad history there.

My impression of magic users, from what Schierke says about Flora's past (volume 24) is that they were like the healers/spiritual leaders of a village or area before the Holy See came along. Among other things, they were the go-between of the people to communicate with the spirits that they worshiped. Magic users seem to follow a way of enlightened thinking and have respect for life. Of course I'm assuming other magic user's beliefs are comparable to ones that Flora lived by. Puck does say when he comes into her house for the first time that it brought back memories of the homes of magic users he had known in Elfhelm, so that makes me think their ways of life must be similar at least.

Anyway, I think Elfhelm will be a welcoming place for Schierke. I think Flora was probably a renowned and respected member of the magi, so I don't anticipate that Schierke would suffer from a bad rap on that account. Even if Flora had done something that tarnished her reputation in the past I don't think it would be held against Schierke. I also think that Elfhelm is going to be a place where both Schierke and Farnese can improve their magical abilities, continuing their studies with other, more experienced magic users. Schierke says she herself is still in training, so what a great opportunity for them both to learn and gain new skills.

Femto felt threatened enough by Flora to want to take her out of the picture, so he clearly sees magic users as a possible menace. I think that's where any conflict might come in Elfhelm. Femto might attack the island in an attempt to wipe out the magic users there.

Character Cove / Re: Favorite Berserk Character Introductions
« on: March 31, 2015, 05:10:35 PM »
Yeah, furthermore I really like her development, from someone who looks down on those who don't know anything about magic or the astral world to someone who recognizes the importance of friends and the strength that has kept Guts on his feet through all of his challenges.

Such a fantastic character. Like Puella once said, if only she were a little older, her and Guts might ...!  :casca:

Absolutely! That would have been interesting. Maybe it would have been more like the relationship that is alluded to between Skullknight and Flora. I like things the way they are, too, though since I think it's because Schierke's a child that Guts has been able to let his guard down with her as much as he has.

I wonder if Azan realized that about her while serving as her subordinate.

I definitely got the impression that Azan realizes Farnese is weak and an inexperienced leader. Since Azan is a veteran knight I think he can pick up on that, whereas some of the other men under her command who came from more sheltered backgrounds and have had little to no experience probably can't. Azan is very protective of Farnese and I don't think that's only because she's a woman (although being the chivalrous guy he is, that's likely part of it) but also because he knows she really does need his help. Azan is cool, one of the most principled characters in the story, for sure!  :azan:

Character Cove / Re: Favorite Berserk Character Introductions
« on: March 31, 2015, 02:10:33 PM »
I think my favorite character introductions were Schierke and Farnese. I was already familiar with many of the other characters because I had watched the anime before reading the manga, so those didn't make as much of an impression on me.

I like Schierke's introduction because it made me so curious about her. It made me anticipate finding out more about this cute and knowledgeable little witch.

I like Farnese's introduction because of how my initial impression contrasted with the reality of the character. My first impression was that she was a formidable person with a lot of power. I guess it was the fancy armor and her haughty attitude. LOL Then, come to find out, she is anything but those things. She is mostly just a figurehead with no real skill and she's a very frightened and weak person (at first). This character emphasizes that a person (or group, like the Holy Iron Chain Knights as a whole) may appear very impressive on the surface, but the actuality may be a different story.

Podcast / Re: Skullknight.NET Podcast: Episode 60
« on: March 31, 2015, 01:19:01 PM »
Enjoyed the podcast. Thanks! The ass discussion at the beginning cracked me up!  :ganishka:

I just read through the whole series for the first time, so I'm now waiting along with everyone else. Of course I'm anticipating and very much looking forward to what comes next, but I'm glad that Miura takes his time to make this awesome. Considering the scope of the story and how much care he takes with the art and with plot and character development it doesn't surprise me. Creativity can't always be rushed. Better greatness irregularly than mediocrity at a steady pace!  :puck:

So about the translation issue we mention during this podcast, what Rochine says in Japanese is close to how DH put it, it's just that their translation is confusing. The gist of it is that she mistakes Puck for one of her pseudo-apostles and admonishes him: "Don't talk to humans, those who do are outcasts, like Peekaf. And if it's your case, you'll get punished along with the humans."

Thanks for the clarification. That makes more sense. I had found that exchange kind of weird.

Creation Station / Re: Berserk Void and Griffith cosplay
« on: March 27, 2015, 04:57:07 PM »
Wow, this looks awesome!  :ubik: You got some skills!

that's making me go "I wanna eat that Void chocolate!" ... could you imagine?

LOL! Now that would be something! I can see it now, a tasty chocolate Void peeking out of the Easter basket instead of a bunny!  :void:

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