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Creation Station / Re: What are you playing? (musical instrument thread)
« on: August 18, 2017, 08:44:32 PM »
Hey! Nice guitar you got there, Griffith!

I play my fancy bass. Maybe we should get together at Walter's house and play some Berserk tunes!

I am also a no-so-fancy bass player, which I actually learned far better than guitar because of something I tried with it called... "practice", I think? It's what one does instead of hitting the strings wildly and thinking, "I'm Jimi Hendrix!" In later years I started applying these principles to guitar and it was much better than the former.

That's a gorgeous Explorer Griffith. Do you have many other guitars?

Thank you, and yeeeeah... I've been buying and selling them since high school, so I've probably forgotten about more than a normal person even considers buying, let alone needs. I'll post more pics later from my eBay folder. :guts:

I just picked up a Crimson Red Parker Fly that I absolutely adore.

Oooh, I've only played one of those, at Sylvan Music in Santa Cruz. Really cool, but too nice for my tastes at the time (I did get a half American/Mexican Strat and Desert Yellow RG-550 there for a great price though, both regrettably long gone).

But hey, SHOW, don't tell, let's see this beautiful red (my favorite guitar color =) Parker Fly, Mufasa's SG and Fancy's bass! :daiba:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Game of Thrones TV [spoilers]
« on: August 18, 2017, 08:35:10 PM »
The scene between Jon and Jorah was very well written imo, but if the conditions in which it takes place are nonsensical, it ruins the impact. The whole mission seemed just dumb and like an enhanced version of Ramseys "20  good men"-plan.

Yeah, and about that conversation in particular, while the dialogue was nice, the logic didn't quite follow: Jon's going to give up his White Walker killing blade out of old-fashioned House sentiments? That's completely antithetical to his entire cause! As well as just a really bad practical idea right before he's about to fight White Walkers. It was basically just another attempt to drive home that he's Noble Ned 2.0 Special Edition and will do the noble thing no matter how bad it's going to turn out. Although, he was pretty bad delaying that escape, though perhaps to nobly challenge the Night King 1 on 1 (BTW, why didn't Jon or Dany call on the dragons to try, like, burning him?), but we know how that turned out...

I was a bit sad for the dragon because they probably are they only thing left that give emotion in the show  :ganishka:

Yeah, somehow they're the best characters this season. I mean, I guess we shouldn't complain too much that they're finally the stars of the show, I just don't like the apparent "human" cost.

Oh and Arya is starting to get on my nerves a lot.

Yeah, to paraphrase the ex Mrs. Reynolds, she's become a retarded person. We can only hope Bran sets her straight before Jon shows up. Wouldn't it be ironic if Cercei and Jaime become true believers and it's the North led by Littlefinger that turns against the greater good!? "Chaos is a ladder, bitches! Team Night King!" :daiba: Actually, I could totally see Cercei thinking about it once she hears they killed her dragon. She'd make the perfect Ice Queen! There's your Song of Ice Fire to unite the land, the Night King and Queen! =)

BTW, I totally noticed this too, especially after re-watching Hardhome last night: http://www.refinery29.com/2017/08/168702/game-of-thrones-old-night-king-reddit


But hey the scenario sacrifices and all the weird cut were Worth it, for these were wonderfull dragon shots. :slan:

I'd actually be satisfied with that excuse, or prefer it I guess is more accurate, rather than them claiming this was exactly how much time they needed blah blah blah.

Actually, this whole scenario and the crazy pacing actually reminds me of Breaking Bad's end, but they wisely used the first run of 8 to setup everything going off in the last 8, which made it awesome. Also, that was a rather simple story you could ramp up or wrap up at any time, whenever Walt gets caught, whereas this had about a thousand slowly moving parts they're now just smashing together all at once.

I'm not going to have the time to watch it before Sunday night, going away for a bit this weekend starting tonight. Dangit. I did get spoiled about a certain blue~y thing when the episode leaked because at the time, when I woke up, I casually logged into news and an article came up with the spoiling thumbnail (gif) of it happening. DANGIT.

That is EXACTLY why I watched it ASAP. Even basic one sentence plot synopses being casually tossed around out there threatened spoilers, and I saw the exact same thumbnails you're talking about online yesterday. Sorry man, that's disappointing...er, I mean, it may not be what it seems... or is it!? :isidro: :carcus:

Actually, I had what I thought was a major spoiler going in, which precipitated my viewing, and was playing the same game with my expectations, "It might be wrong, IDK!" and it actually turned out to be untrue. So, you never know.

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Creation Station / Re: What are you playing? (musical instrument thread)
« on: August 18, 2017, 04:31:50 PM »
:ganishka: Yeah, honestly everytime I take pictures like that I tell myself (and usually also tell the people I'm with) that it's useless and I should just soak in the moment. Which I really try to do and all, but it's hard to not snap at least a few... hundreds, I mean... dozens just a few.

Yeah, the problem is I try to take multiples to be safe, but again, I'm too lazy to actually go through them and so they become redundantly meaningless in my mind, so I'd just be better off self-editing and making sure I take one good picture.

I'll get it to it though, it's pretty cool and I literally only took them for ya. :casca:

Well, thank you! They must have had some great Jimi Hendrix stuff there. I actually have a 1963 Fender Musicmaster/Duo Sonic because Hendrix played one when he was with the Isley Brothers.

Wow shes beautiful!
I have an SG, absolutely love it. It fly's. The action is as close to the neck with out buzzing lol.   

Thank you, and got any picks of that SG? Now that you mention it, my friend with the SG was trying to unload his Stratocaster on me to make space. I should see if he wants to give up the SG instead. :zodd:

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Creation Station / Re: What are you playing? (musical instrument thread)
« on: August 18, 2017, 06:55:08 AM »
I've never been, but would definitely be interested in those pictures if and when you get to them. Speaking of which, you basically described how I've handled all the pictures I've taken in the last 5 years until I finally just stopped taking them. I literally have like 13 giant DCIM folders I've copied on to my computer and then never looked at again. =)

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Creation Station / What are you playing? (musical instrument thread)
« on: August 18, 2017, 06:08:57 AM »
My new (old) baby, a 1985 Gibson Explorer in Ferrari Red:







I've wanted another Gibson since my friend took back his SG after I borrowed it for years (I sort of assumed it was mine at that point =) and I finally got the one I've always wanted. It plays like a fuckin' dream too; no matter how loose or out of control you feel, like you're about to fuck up, it just seems to come out right! I'm thinking of calling her Christine. :zodd:

Or Robin1, Magnum, or just "the Ferrari." :carcus:

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Shootin' the Breeze / Re: Hello All!
« on: August 18, 2017, 05:36:55 AM »
I met someone dressed as Griffith. I asked him who he was dressed as, and he explained it to me. I grew more and more intrigued, especially when I learned this angelic figure was the BAD guy. I had to know more! He pointed me in the direction of a place I could find the manga, and the rest is history
EDIT: Well look how rude I am, I totally forgot to thank Walter or whomever approved my entrance to these forums. So thanks much whoever you are!

Well, you could also thank me for kindly showing you the way all those years ago! And like I told you then, I wasn't dressed as anybody, like a costume, I am GRIFFITH! :schierke:

Anyway, welcome to the forum, I'm sure you'll fit right in Mr. Well-Spoken Lunatic Weirdo. :griffnotevil:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Game of Thrones TV [spoilers]
« on: August 17, 2017, 08:53:48 PM »
The beginning scenes contained some of the best dialogue/acting/characterization of the season for what that's worth, and did a lot to fill some of the previous episode's holes, and the action and interaction it brought between some principals helped to establish more believable connections that were surely lacking before. The problem is that foundation should be there going in for it to have real impact, not after the fact. I still enjoyed the action for the pure spectacle, and it's not even so much how unbelievable everything is now, because technically it has always been pretty unbelievable, it's fantasy after all, but they're cutting so many narrative corners it's not grounding the story in anything, even within the made up rules of its own world, so that it doesn't have the heft to earn our suspension of disbelief.

Update: I just watched the end of Hardhome again and HOLY SHIT. Now that was something. I mean, it took a whole season of nothing happening to give it that impact, but it worked! =)

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Game of Thrones TV [spoilers]
« on: August 17, 2017, 01:44:46 PM »
Well, I watched the latest (intentional?) leak of the next episode by HBO itself and, without spoiling anything, if you thought the last episode was playing fast and loose with logistics it was really just preparing you for what's to come when you basically see the fast travel in real time. Anyway, it's also a lot of fun, contains the best characterization of this entire season, as well as half a dozen moments that would be a highlight of any other. Though, because of this, more than any other episode, it painfully highlights what an abridged season this actually is, because there was easily enough material in this episode alone for two or three more (hell, in the past they'd have spent the whole season in one of these locations and not even paid it off like this). You can see the arc of the season by now like any other, it's just missing a lot of the character "filler" that, you know, would make it seem to matter.

So, there's really no reason other than apathy/laziness that they couldn't have paced things out better for more believable plot/character development. These truncated final seasons are the second worst idea these guys have ever had after Confederate (they mercifully cancel that yet, or is it now being performed live on TV? =). They're basically fucking up the biggest and best thing they'll ever do at the finish line so they can start working on something nobody wants that'll be the end of them. It'd be like if Metallica announced they were truncating Master of Puppets or The Black Album so they could get started on Load or jump straight to St. Anger. Or if George Lucas cancelled Return of the Jedi so he could release Episode I sooner. Not a great plan.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Game of Thrones TV [spoilers]
« on: August 14, 2017, 04:30:02 PM »
To put a bow on why this mad rush is bad beyond nitpicking logistics, everything is happening so fast that it's not actually developing meaningfully. Reunions happen, but so quickly and plot purposefully they don't matter, interesting characters are thrown together, but they barely or don't interact so it's not interesting, scenes which should be incredibly impactful aren't because they aren't given that breadth to have any impact. There's no interpersonal conversations, so there's no relationships, or even characters at a certain point, and therefore no meaning (the closest we came to something like that this episode was with a CGI dragon =). Basically, this episode was motion without action and did a great disservice to everything it was in such a rush to try and set in motion. It's become a bad show not even the actors can save because the script gives them nothing to work with but one plot point to the next, which we can now plainly see like strings moving everyone along.

Now, the last episode was just fine under these conditions so maybe it'll bounce back or not matter now that everyone's set on course for the last two episodes of the season, when it'll hopefully focus on the major conflict to come, but the way this episode cast aside the meaning of these happenings for the sake of executing them as quickly as possible was certainly distressing. It's really like they've gone from adapting novels to wiki pages.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 14, 2017, 02:24:24 PM »
In any case, there seems to be way too much still unexplained for it to all be resolved naturally in a four-episode span. And while I wouldn't normally expect Lynch to explain things, he seems to have made it his business to open so many new threads in this series, I do expect some of them to be resolved.

Yeah, the series appears to be doing no winding down. It actually spent all of last night introducing or explaining new elements and felt like it's just getting started, so there's no way it's all coming together in the next four. Lynch is either planning on more someday or planning on leaving it that way, and us with more questions than when we started. :ganishka:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Game of Thrones TV [spoilers]
« on: August 14, 2017, 02:20:36 PM »
(Update for not double posting)

Well that was a good laugh of an episode. I feel like it shifted into another totally different fantasy story. And that final "V" formation towards the end... Go Ducks!

Yeah, I've been pretty forgiving or good at ignoring it, but if people hated the fast travel in previous episodes this one sets records and doesn't even pretend to fudge numbers on time passed. See Tyrion go from the Reach to Dragonstone, to King's Landing, and back again in minutes of screentime! See the amazing Jon Snow go from south of Winterfell at Dragonstone to The Wall north of it in the time it takes Littlefinger to pass a note! :ganishka:

Forget the revelation that he's apparently the legitimate crown Prince and King or all that messianic resurrection stuff, it's evident that he's the Prince that was Promised because he can teleport. :griffnotevil:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 14, 2017, 02:02:15 PM »
Griffith

...I'm beginning to think that Sarah is the mask for "The Experiment" the mother figure that bore BOB into the physical plane. And that Naido is the current form of the being that The Fireman created.

Yeah, the water cooler talk today was whether she was the girl that ate the Bob bug.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 14, 2017, 05:13:08 AM »
Non sequitur impressions of Ep 14:

Took this long to get to Jack Rabbit's Palace, eh? Oh well, it was an action packed episode after the slow and plodding nature of the past couple. A visit to the White Lodge. The giant = the fireman confirmed. Andy's empty head was like a vessel for whatever he's been programmed to do.

Good ep, and minus MacLachlan, it's strange that they couldn't spread some of this material out in the past two dumping grounds. I think Andy is more than just an empty vessel and the perfect choice for communication with the white lodge; he's purely good and sees things differently, like with the map in S2. Makes sense in a weird way that he'd basically get it all laid out for him while nobody else could remember/comprehend; he'll get it in a purely good vs evil sense. A great moment in law enforcement history!

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The girl who appeared in the forest, Naido (according to credits), is the same who helped Cooper escape, but fell off that building. Her mother was the terrifying thing banging on the door. I wonder if the creature that appeared in the Box is her doppelganger?

Didn't think we'd see her again, let alone in the world; it's all coming back to Twin Peaks. Unfortunately it looks like it's going to take about 17 episodes to even get the principals together back there.

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Finally, was Sarah Palmer always a being from the Lodge, or was she somehow turned over the years into ... whatever that was in the bar. She opened her face like Laura opened hers.

My only thought was she seems even scarier than Evil Coop and has the potential to be the big bad of the whole thing. Then again, it could just be "a real mystery" or piece of the puzzle that ultimately goes nowhere. In any case, as she warned I wouldn't fuck with her though.

I was glad to see Gordon and the gang figuring things out and getting closer to the real Coop, somewhat mitigated by him not appearing at all. Also, Evil Coop behind Dougie confirmed? If Janey-E is Diane's sister, that's one too many connections/coincidences. Still not sure where her loyalties ultimately lie, she seems to be playing both sides, but she's definitely working with with Evil Cooper despite their differences that she won't discuss, if only because that's the only Cooper she's got right now (unless she truly hates the real Cooper for some reason).

What's up with Hulk hand, he going to destroy Evil Coop by beating him at arm wrestling? =)

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Game of Thrones TV [spoilers]
« on: August 09, 2017, 04:31:14 PM »
Well, if you want more critical Thrones-bashing, here's a rundown of the previous episode and season so far between me and a friend. To differentiate his thoughts from mine I've given him a Carcus emot avatar and put his words in italics, while my words are standard format and preceeded by Griffith, of course. Oh, and before we begin...

SPOILERS

:carcus: A pretty good episode, even a great episode when compared to most of the others. The dragons finally delivered, earlier than anyone expected. I'm glad Jaime survived (I think) because he still needs to tell Cersei Olenna's final message. There was too much Littlefinger and not enough natural dialogue from Dany, which is par for the course. Davos is still the best character.

 :griffnotevil: I think the consensus joke everybody made during that episode and after is that clearly Jon and Davos drew those cave paintings themselves. The after episode "explanation" was also comedy gold, "spirals are a big deal in a lot of culture's so no reason they wouldn't be here to." And apparently no reason they are; you sound like YOU have no idea what they're about! Wonderful.

 :carcus: I'm not sure it's even worth the armchair anthropologizing to be honest. The set designers aren't who I look to for thematic lore when I watch this show.

 :griffnotevil: But those quotes are from the showrunners/head writers! Same with all the usual, "This happy reunion is a happy moment for them/The sad part is sad so we really wanted sad music playing." These glib motherfuckers should clearly do a show about a topic as complex and thorny as American white supremacy.

 :carcus: I was further frustrated by Bran, who has become a narrative spoiler that the show runners don't know how to deal with.

 :griffnotevil: Yeah, I did enjoy his Littlefinger teasing, but it's all frustratingly indirect, and it doesn't even mitigate his status as a spoiler because his mere stoic presence signals, "It's all going to be alright in the end." Would be much better if he was sounding the alarm even louder than Jon to preserve any possibility of a future. He knows Jon "Conner" Snow will make it alright.

 :carcus: Yeah, and the other possibility, that he's seen the coming doom and knows people have no chance for survival, means that his composure is inhuman, rendering him to plot device status and making him not longer an actual character. He's always sort of tended to that, even from the first episode, when his attempted murder gets the plot going, but now that he's written to be not even really a person it feels like a waste of screen time.

 :griffnotevil: In defense of the show, I don't think he grew into the part other than growing about 4 feet taller. His nasal yelling of "DONT HUURT MY FREEENDS, WAAAAHHH" during the middle seasons did not impress, so turning him into an actual non-personality might have been the best course aside from recasting, "Hey, Bran is back, but he now looks conspicuously like Max Von Sydow!"

 :carcus: Hahaha, good point. Perhaps the character plotting on the show is generally hollow, cheaply-motivated, misanthropic, and ultimately pointless. I'd point to Theon as a prime example.

 :griffnotevil: I re-watched the dragon battle: When the Dothraki first ride through the flames of the dragon fire... music and imagery very reminiscent of Diablo II. Very cool.

 :carcus: That specific shot was great, the horses charging through the fire were nightmarish. I can definitely see the D2 resemblance.

 :griffnotevil: Also, Jaime is painfully heroic for the villain's right hand enabler, I don't see how they rectify that besides him dying tragically for a terrible cause or by him killing the love of his life (who I don't think feels the same, for anything).

 :carcus: I've been thinking about that, and I think they may just have him kill Cersei ("it's like poetry, it rhymes") in the Red Keep throne room. He is himself an irredeemable character though, and like I said a couple weeks ago his motivation as a prisoner of incestual love isn't exactly compelling, so I don't think they'll be able to give him any closure that actually satisfies. It'll come off as either anemic or hamfisted or unjustified in terms of his characterization. Like what, are we supposed to believe that THIS is the season where he realizes Cersei needs killing? Not immediately after she catalyzed their last remaining child's suicide, but when she... makes an alliance with Euron?

 :griffnotevil: The best ending would be her killing him and him realizing in a very direct fashion the error of hisways.

 :carcus: If they do that I'll be pleasantly surprised.

 :griffnotevil: Yep, more likely they do the Mad Queen/Kingslayer redux, which I can buy if she's going to somehow kill everyone and basically do the White Walkers work. I'm guessing everyone but Cersei will slowly turn their attention to the threat in the north and Jaime will be trapped, either killed or forced to kill. Best scenario for him is to kill her and then himself and lie down dead with her. There's no winning.

 :carcus: Likewise, I'm thoroughly sick of Dany's kneel before Zod attitude, and because of Cersei's machinations I'm not even sure it's supposed to mirror the Mad King or not. Are they both mirrors of him? Why are they both mirrors of him if so? Why not just Dany? The scripting comes across as very muddled on this point.

 :griffnotevil: Yeah, she's pretty repellently entitled, especially in contrast to Jon, who clearly doesn't care about titles, already calls her "grace," and very kindly tries to explain that there's simply no politically viable path for him to "bend the knee." He'd immediately become a former King and functionally useless to her. But no matter, "Bend the knee because I freed the slaves or something!" I actually like Cercei better, at least she's not high on her own supply, she knows she's bad, but "fuck 'em."

 :carcus: Cersei is certainly conscious of how awful she is, as revealed in a bunch of scenes (like her torture of Sister Unella, etc). I was really hoping the show runners would stay away from adding another narratively uncontrollable element to the plot,i.e. Dany's possible inherited mental illness, and maybe they aren't - but like I said the writing is unclear on this point. Cersei has an impossible goal of killing all her enemies, which means killing everyone she's not related to and some people who are, and she's leaning into it, which is at least justifiable plotting.It's painfully obvious that Jon and Dany will get married and tidily solve the problem of him not wanting to pledge allegiance.

 :griffnotevil: I find it odd Jon is still there, I figured he'd trundle on north after getting the ok on the glass. He's probably going to teleport there for a battle and back again by the start of next season. They've taken so many storytelling shortcuts I think they literally need him in both places at once!

 :carcus: Yeah, I think they're keeping him around to lay the groundwork for their eventual marriage, even though such groundwork is totally unnecessary in the context of how marriage is treated in the show.

 :griffnotevil: They should have just stuck to the 10 episode format. A few extra hours for these things to believably develop and unfold wouldn't have hurt. Well, he's already become her most trusted adviser, which is only the 2nd biggest vote of confidence she gave him after going into a cave alone with him where he could have dispatched her immediately, since he's technically a rogue monarch.

 :carcus: Why did they even go to a seven episode format?

 :griffnotevil: "This is all the time we needed to tell the story we wanted to" = "We are completely out of gas/ideas; here's the gist of it and we can barely manage that at this point" The problem is, like you say they're trying to lay some groundwork for the hookup to have meaning for fanboys and girls, but that won't fly because they've literally known each other for 20 minutes of screen time. After 60 hours, that's not going to feel earned, or like they ever really met properly in the terms of the show's own precedent. Next week the dragons will bark at Jon before rolling over and wagging their tails while Dany looks on from a balcony googly eyed, "There's just something about him... *long sigh*" Otherwise the closest thing to some kind of development will be Jon sort of resembles her old boyfriend, so he's her type and it wouldn't be a total drag as far as arranged marriages go?

 :carcus: Hahaha god, that's about right for the level of subtlety we've come to expect from the show. Even taking it on its own terms though, which is generous, the show doesn't require hamfisted courtship. It's not even narratively justified: it would be a political marriage aimed at solving political problems. Certainly that's enough, and viewers don't need to be spoonfed maudlin romance.

 :griffnotevil: But they want it! They want the "joking" memes to not be jokes anymore and for it to be Beauty and the Beast, and the showrunners know this and are going to force it even though they don't even have time to do it right. Good thing George RR Martin will fill in the gaps with three 2,000 page books sometime by the end of this century.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 08, 2017, 05:55:18 PM »
This is in response to Walter and Griffith's query about the show unfolding through nonlinear storytelling ex: in part 13 Bobby tells Ed and Norma that he just found something related to his father which would have been in Part 11. During the day.

I did notice that! But I assumed it was just supposed to be earlier that day, and if we'd already seen day and night pass with Bobby in other scenes (felt like it), it was...

Looked like a simple continuity problem to me.

This, rather than evidence of some humongous in-story temporal shifts. I mean, given the other subject matter and the implied significance of the location of Twin Peaks it's certainly possible something strange could be happening, but are there other examples to support this besides one weirdly placed scene in the latest episode? Counterpoint: David Lynch is a 71 year old man putting together an 18 hour movie with an editing department 17 names deep. Mistakes could certainly happen, or like Eluvei said, he might have just consciously made the choice to move scenes around for other creative reasons.

Just like the sudden mid-episode wardrobe changes that people keep obsessing about.

/THE/CLOTHES/ARE/NOT/WHAT/THEY/SEEM/ :magni:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 08, 2017, 03:30:58 PM »
...Here is another thing to mull post finale : nothing is in chronological order scene wise on The RETURN.



Could you unpack that a bit..? Clearly there are many scenes that are in chronological order, or the story would make no sense.

Yeah, off the top of my head everything in fact appears to be in chronological order. The weirdest anomaly coming to mind is Evil Coop, or someone resembling him, appearing in the box when he should have been out in the world already, and them never mentioning seeing the real deal on film later.

So, VQ, are we talking certain disparate scenes in different locales are actually happening simultaneously or out of order of appearance? That's certainly possible, but there also appears to be plenty of cause and effect between these scenes/locations, and not much of a case to be made as to how or why they'd be appearing out of order unless you've got a big picture theory at hand?



Anyway, here's essentially the same report but two different takeaways:

'Twin Peaks' Likely Won't Be Revived Again at Showtime

‘Twin Peaks’: No Talks For Another Season But “Door’s Always Open To David Lynch,” Showtime Bosses Say

The gist either way is that it wasn't a big hit in traditional viewers but that it got Showtime plenty of new subscribers, including me! Overall, it seems to me like they're looking at the glass half full but it wasn't a smash or anything. I'd say "not that it matters," but it actually does if Lynch ever wanted to do more on the same scale (I'd think the best compromise in that case would be less episodes, but here's hoping everything will be perfectly satisfying after the next 5 =).

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 08, 2017, 02:43:14 AM »
Griffith, I don't understand why you're taking Twin Peaks this seriously.

Hmmmm, I didn't think I was taking it too seriously, beyond judging and respecting it as entertainment and a good faith effort at something, for which I give the first half of the season high marks. Also, to be fair, it set a pretty serious tone to start and despite all the weird and silly stuff since what's bugging me is it just hasn't been compelling the last couple episodes. I'm fine with anything as long as it's engaging rather than boring. Though I do expect them to have Agent Cooper eventually show up on the Agent Cooper show, even more so if it really doesn't matter and there's nothing bigger in mind (if not, I'll gladly accept a better alternative, but Dougie won't cut it for 18 hours). I gave up on the Saul show for the same reason, because there was no "Saul show" and what they offered instead stretched the limits of nuance, minimalism, and entertainment. After 2 seasons of circling around a vague point, going on 3, it just wasn't enteraining anymore; there's no drama at that point.

Contrast that with my praise of Game of Thrones, a show I'm certainly not taking seriously at this point, but which is entertaining as hell! So yeah, if the whole thing is just a pointless goof, at least goof off with the character everyone wants to see, but I hope there's some higher entertainment in mind as well. Why wouldn't I?

Also,  I agree with everything Wally added about the series, old and new.

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Shootin' the Breeze / Re: Forum nostalgia
« on: August 07, 2017, 05:26:16 PM »
1) How did you get to this forum?

Via BSOM (though I think I posted to both first simultaneously), via Berserk, via a high school friend recommending it and loaning me VCDs with chinese subs! :ganishka: I think the first time I saw it subbed in English was in some very classy Realplayer files.

2) Do you have some funny/interesting anecdotes?

Those days when SKuLL L0rD almost felt alive. :badbone:

3) Do you miss another user that is not in the forum anymore?

I'll go with a couple that haven't been mentioned yet: Ranemaka, who was quite active in the scene back in the day with his own translation site I did some (bad) graphic work for, but whose legacy is now probably starting the youtube thread. Also, because I obviously have a soft spot for renegades with hearts of gold and no one else will say so, Werealmad. :carcus:

4) Do you miss something in particular of the old days regarding forum stuff? (Idk how to express it...Maybe you miss a chatbox or an old forum style)

That carefree innocence, man. :griffnotevil:

5) Did you make friendships here that go beyond the forum? I mean, if someday when Berserk ends and this forum closes or you just leave, would you keep in touch with someone you met here?

Yep, there's a few members I've talked to beyond the purview of Berserk and the board (IncantatioN, VH Bob, Olivier once or twice). Most prominently, as Wally said, we (and Cronus, add him on the missed list =) hung out for a couple days back east (saw X2, talked about life at the park, went to a party, I dressed stupid, etc), and we (him, me and Aaz) used to converse all the time well beyond Berserk. Unfortunately, I just don't spend much time chatting with anyone anymore save for this place. Also, among my regrets is that I had an opportunity to meet Aaz, Grail, Gobs, and Dar Link when Aaz was in the bay area on business but I couldn't make the trip for... personal reasons (let's just say I'll cite this in my divorce papers if it ever comes to it =). Sorry guys, and especially Aaz who I hope didn't take it personally that I couldn't bridge the last 300 miles when he came 5,500. >_<

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 07, 2017, 01:38:56 PM »
Well, the next one might blow your minds. Why? Sky serien in Germany showed the next episode by mistake.

At least "Twin Peaks Leaks" makes for a good headline, and some of that sweet leak publicity to hopefully pull it out of this second half slump. I wish they'd just add it on my Amazon/Showtime account now.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Game of Thrones TV [spoilers]
« on: August 07, 2017, 04:36:37 AM »
Anybody see leaked episode 4? Holy mother of God

I heard and so I saved it for high quality viewing and I'm glad I did! Call a doctor if your Throne bone lasts more than four hours tonight.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 07, 2017, 04:21:59 AM »
So, that ending song. That was David Lynch making fun of James, right? .... Right?

I took it as him personally making fun of me, like mocking us. The second they announced him I was in denial and when they showed him with that same yellow guitar my wife and I looked at each other and said, "Oh fuck me!" It even had the same inexplicable bass and drum parts come in despite there being no other players, yet it had the, creepy, backup singers for Maddy and Donna, recreating all that's wrong with it perfectly! AND THAT VOICE, THAT SAME VOICE! It couldn't only be more absurd coming out of 50-something James and Lynch knows it! :mozgus:

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Welcome Griff, to the glory of watching Twin Peaks LIVE!  :ganishka:

I DID IT!

I think I picked a bad time to catch up; wish I'd been here for the episode 8 event. Also, I know you haven't followed it, but watch the last half tonight's Game of Thrones for contrast. :ganishka: It's not fair since that show had 60+ episodes, and plenty of stinkers among them, to reach this point, but it also has more episodes remaining to actually pay things off. It'd be a shame if everything is basically being deferred until the, hopefully extended, finale. It'd be season 2-esque if it ultimately goes down that way.

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Anyway, whoo boy... another episode where I'm counting the minutes rather than being engaged in each scene. 15  minutes of arm rasslin, 15 minutes of Tom Sizemore antics. 5 minutes of James' song. Bye bye most of the episode.

Yeah, it was like episode 12.5, though an improvement still.More Coop, evil or otherwise, is always better, but yeah, the arm wrestling went on forover, and though the tension actually got to me to the point my heart was pounding, the result was a bit anticlimactic (you knew he'd win impressively, but I was expecting him to rip the guy's arm right off =). Otherwise, my biggest takeaway is real Coop is actually making no tangible progress and despite the time spent they're dragging this out to the point it's going to go from feeling earned to arbitrary and short shrift when he wakes up... IF he wakes up. Surprise, no Harry OR Coop in the new TP! :magni:

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Still, some revelations. We know a bit more about the ring's powers. It seems to bind souls to the Lodge. That tracks with what happened with Laura (which also prevented Bob from possessing her).

Hey Ray, you probably should have followed orders about putting the ring on Evil Coop, especially whem things got weird. I wonder if EC/Bob is unkillable/unstoppable unless banished to the lodge. It's certainly not looking fair if and when the Coops have a showdown.

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Also, I wonder about Audrey's scenes now, after her thought about not feeling herself. Last we heard from her, she was in a bank explosion... Hmm...
...After tonight's episode I am fully convinced that all the Audrey Horne scenes are of a still very comatose Audrey living her worse nightmare of being married to a man as controlling as her father.

This makes sense with the way the scenes go round and round with her wanting to leave but ultimately staying...
But them making sense isn't a strong argument for what's what on this show. Also, her dad turned into a real mensch by the end of season 2 and she had made her peace with him. Also, who birthed Richard then, Audrey via coma, Donna, or Johnny?


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BOB is one slippery dude in evading being caught by The Black Lodge. The looping sound Sarah Palmer's tv made sounds exactly like the record player sound in season 2 preceding BOB's carnage so I figure next week is the 10.1 episode.

I was so hoping for something to happen then, a crazy vision of Laura ala Gordon, the horse, or some Leland/Bob/black lodge invasion but no such luck. I was hoping this week's episode was to capitalize on the last by blowing our minds, but now I have no such expectation, "fool me once..." So, basically, now Lynch has me right where he wants me. =)

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 06, 2017, 06:19:02 AM »
No time for a proper reply at the moment but:

https://twitter.com/J_Rosenfield/status/893877753774297088

 :ganishka:

BTW, I don't know if this has already been shared, but in my Twin Peaks wiki deep dives (including the alternate "International" pilot where they solve the case in the first episode and Bob dies[!!!]) I found this vintage SNL Twin Peaks sketch with a downright all-star cast from their 90's heyday; even the non-speaking extra is a legend if you recognize him:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7o2ca_twin-peaks-parody-by-saturday-night_fun

Clearly the writers were genuine fans and knew the show intimately even though they got the killer wrong (not the point anyway). It also inadvertently foreshadows Coop's future this season! :guts:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 05, 2017, 07:01:50 AM »
Updated at bottom.

10 in check in:

So, I have conflicted feelings at this point, first about Evil Coop and his survival (I was both sad to see him go before a confrontation with the real Coop and sad to see him revived because now real Coop is still in danger and his oppontant is that much more formidable =), and I'm having a hard time thinking of a better Dougie theory than Evil Coop somehow making him from himself (maybe as little as a palm would do =); considering he's working with the people trying to kill Dougie, it'd be a pretty big coincidence if he didn't plan it this way (but stranger things have happened). Also, say it ain't so, Diane! I hope she's just so dedicated to Coop that she even helps his Evil Dopplganger but will switch back once he returns (unless she already feels scorned).

My favorite bit of recent business from "Dougie's" world has been his checkup (where they didn't check his head!?), the revelation that he's in much better shape, and Naomi Watts subsequently having her way with him and Coop's pure delight. Better than coffee even, huh!?

Also looking forward to them getting another hit on Coop's prints and DNA and comparing them to Evil Coop, I just hope they can reach him in time (when it looked like EC was dead for a moment, that would have been an elegant switcharoo). Though, speaking of Dougie, I'm now past the halfway mark, and while I appreciate that the arc and focus of the show IS Cooper's journey back (much like finding Laura's killer was the fuel for the first run), I'm still going to feel cheated if we don't get some quality Coop time in the last half of this thing after his return. It better not be in the 11th hour.

Hmmm, I feel like there's something else notable worth mentioning... can't quite put my finger on it... OH YEAH, so Bob was born from a nuclear bomb acid trip that begat a George Romero movie, and Laura Palmer is interdimensional Superman/Jesus and they're destined to faceoff again ala Superman IV! At least that was my understanding of the episode, which I can only otherwise describe as... "What the Hell!?" I mean, there's tons more to say, but I'll save that conversation for when I'm fully caught up.


I genuinely believe it to be some of the best art ever made, with elements and details so profound that are mostly missed in first watching and only become clear by putting more thought and view into it.
I just wish that in season 3 there wasn't so much time wasted on crap like Jacobi's shit-digging shovels and boring conspiracy rants.

I'm confused, I thought that WAS the brilliant art! :ganishka:

Seriously, I've only seen a couple of those segments so far, but is it really more egregious than half the shenanigans in season 2? Season 3, while definitely lacking some of the original's charms, is way more focused... well, save for the 3 minute bar sweeping scenes, music videos, and/or 10 minute music visualization origin stories. You know, profoundly brilliant art. =)

P.s FWWM missing scenes are a must watch.

Damn, I remember this coming out a few years ago but forgot about it until it came up here; I've got more work to do! :puck:


UPDATE:

I'm all caught up, on the show and the thread! Ep 12 was indeed trying save for a couple of quality Sarah scenes, but at least I was prepared so it wasn't that bad. I'm more disappointed by the lack of progress (I knew Walter wasn't just feigning ignorance for my benefit; nothing's happened! =) and the fact time is running out, which I'm sure you're all feeling and therefore had much different expectations going in. Like I said, if we don't get a decent amount of Cooper quality time I'll be pissed. I'd like to see him take over and turn everything on its head, but it seems more like we're in this for the long haul (we still have Tom Sizemore to deal with, ugh). Though ep 11 was fun, particularly the culminating dinner scene that was some kind of brilliant right through the credits, and the closest we've come to Cooper genuinely sounding like himself again and not merely through repetition, "Damn fine." So close! SNAP OUT OF IT, COOP!

About episode 12 and Lynch's pace in general, I feel like before this episode Lynch had used the season's pace, particularly the lingering, to great effect setting up the audience and coloring our mood and disposition (even, or especially, if it's bad) to receiving something next. I don't think he's punishing us or showing who's boss, there's usually a purpose and a payoff at work, though this is the first time I can recall him using a whole episode to that effect (unless we count episodes 10-16 of season 2 =). Or, this one just sucked/came together poorly. Anyway, if it's the former then episode 13 should hopefully blow our minds instead of making us want to blow chunks.

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« on: August 04, 2017, 10:22:39 PM »
Delta's review is actually one of the kindest I've read, it otherwise sounds like a complete disaster. It's really too bad they didn't just follow The Gunslinger as many have suggested, but of course not. Like Grail pointed out, it's very much how nobody has the good sense to just adapt the BS arc. Anyway, bummer, The Dark Tower would have been way better off as an HBO series or something if Westworld didn't get there first (and it didn't, DT has been in production hell forever). It's funny, film adaptations used to be the ultimate status milestone if nothing else, now it's almost an insult, "Not good enough to be a TV series?" :ganishka:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« on: August 03, 2017, 08:38:28 PM »
I didn't think of it like a cliffhanger, as much as a dark ending.

Sure turned out that way, but I assume it would have continued from there had the show not been cancelled? Now, I don't know how much of that was due to Frost & Lynch tiring of the network process, the declining ratings and response, or some combination, but it's more happenstance than the plan, right? Obviously Lynch was still interested in that world since he made the movie.

Also, I think Fire Walk With Me gave fans a different kind of closure to the series, such that most weren't rabid for a return.

Yeah, even not having finished the second season yet I could tell it was supposed provide a bit of a cathartic, full-circle sort of spiritual closure to cap it off. I didn't like the relative lack of Coop, though it was cool to get a focus on and more complete picture of Laura's side of things.

Yep, and you might already know but here are just a few of the hiccups purely on the human capital side of things: Log Lady (Catherine Coulson) died shortly before the premiere, along with Albert (Miguel Ferrer).


Awww, yeah, she did NOT look well, and I didn't think it was just for the show. I heard about poor Miguel.

The Man From Another Place (Michael Anderson) refused to be in it

He's alive and said NO!? My wife and I macabrely assumed the little man was dead before we even fired up the new season. We were conversely, though pleasantly, surprised by the perseverance of the giant since we guessed he might not be around either. We're just pessimistic jerks I guess.

along with Harry Truman (Michael Ontkean) though his on slightly better terms — he's just done with acting.

I've read disputed stories on this (Ontkean perhaps being keen but it falling through), particularly what I just read about Mr. Anderson's accusations against Lynch, which, while he's clearly bitter, sound plausible; Lynch would rather spend money on names like Naomi Watts, Forster, and Laura Dern than Anderson and Ontkean... but it doesn't seem like he wouldn't have money leftover enough for them, unless that's how they felt or he really didn't care, "Take it or leave it." In any case, I like Lynch's response to Anderson and his solution: "[Lynch] did talk about Anderson’s final line in the original series, “When you see me again, it won’t be me.”

“That it’s more true than you think [laughs],” the director told Rolling Stone."

At least they didn't turn poor Harry into an office fern.

They only got Doc Hayward back for that weird Skype call because he's co-creator Mark Frost's dad.

Literally phoning it in! That's somehow makes it worse; they couldn't take a camera to dad's house to film his side of the phone call? I admit it makes for a moment with Forster. =)

Yep, how they handle that is also a fear of mine. I also prematurely feel bad for Naomi Watts' character. But maybe that'll work out in the end, anyway.

Yeah, stick with Naomi and Sonny Jim, Coop! She's a "tough dame," way better than Heather Graham, the series' original talking tree. Way more plausible his love for them could open the White Lodge than roller girl.

He vomits up garmonbozia just as he dies, so he's a creature of the Black Lodge. The real question is who "manufactured" him and why. Evil Coop was supposed to die/return to the Lodge when Coop came back into the world, but instead, Dougie was taken into the Lodge and Evil Coop ended up spared. That benefits him, but it doesn't seem to me that Evil Coop knew about Dougie.

Someone's been reading the textbook (can you define garmonbozia for the class? =), so I'll just have to copy off your paper. Could Jeffries be behind it all somehow? If that was him on the phone he wanted Evil Coop back in though. Also, despite his appearances in the lodge, isn't Mike physically still out there (I actually don't remember exactly what became of him)? He did have the ring Dougie was wearing in Fire Walk With Me or vice versa, and I believe the voice on the phone mentioned getting Bob back to the lodge, which makes sense depending on wherever whoever wants him in there is... UGH! I don't know, lots of confusing, seemingly contradictory stuff. It's just easier to assume Evil Coop had a plan to keep himself out, it may have been Dougie, and it worked but just not as he thought (like while driving), but then you're a few more steps down the road than me and may know different already, so I'll take your word for it that Evil Coop is out.

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