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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« Last post by NightCrawler on October 14, 2017, 07:48:51 AM »
I hate it when posters don't match the names with the faces.
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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« Last post by Griffith on October 14, 2017, 05:58:22 AM »
I want in on this cut!

I basically just cut out the conspiracy that needlessly drags out 20 minutes after the story's emotional climax and doesn't actually change any of the consequences (Cruise's character already disproved pre-cogging in the most meaningful of ways).

Then you liked the movie  :badbone:

You may be right! I see now you weren't any more thrilled by the plot than I was. For some reason I got the expectation, probably from the hyperlative reviews, that the story was going to be some mind-blowing feature going in, so I was continually looking for payoffs there rather than the film's actual strengths (atmosphere, visuals, tone, world, emotion, etc).

As for some of your other observations: the resolution didn't really mean much to me because it was between two characters with about fifteen minutes of combined screen time in a three hour movie and didn't really change anything. It was pretty much a MacGuffin payoff, whereas the original used the events of the film and the experiences of the characters to build to its conclusion and give it weight (I couldn't help but regard Ford's final question to K as unintentionally revealing, as in the answer should be "not much," for the audience as well). I also agree with you about a certain character and subplot that could have been cut altogether, but at least there was something there for the protagonist as Incantation pointed out (this movie is almost more a subplot itself around events that would be a sequel to the central conflict in Blade Runner, but it never really gets there either). I just don't think that character and what she represented was developed enough as a concept and should have been employed either more or much less (it also kind of confused the main theme unless it was supposed to be so obviously "less than" to bolster the case for the replicants). Finally, I thought the "big questions" got muddled and lost in favor of a pretty damn reductive, and ludicrous without further explanation, biological litmus test that shouldn't define one's humanity in any case. Han Solo: That's not how personhood works!

So, more story bitching from me, but I get the appeal too, I wasn't having a bad time watching the movie, I was into it and enjoyed the experience and just being there in that world. Plus it did its own thing and wasn't generally embarrassing or cringe-worthy in either reverence or irreverence, but it's also boring, nothing happens, and it never really goes anywhere (criticisms of the original to be fair) or gives you much to think about (the first did, and in this case, if you're making a movie for fans already thinking three moves ahead, there should probably should have been more than three moves =). I'll see what I think on a second viewing, but that probably won't be for a while.

Also, here's a poster for how my viewing of Blade Runner 2049 got started:




No match for the real thing of course:

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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« Last post by Walter on October 14, 2017, 02:11:54 AM »
I did dig the atmosphere

Then you liked the movie  :badbone:

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ominous Goslian look on my face (great casting for that part btw, definitely the role he was born to play =)

He's 1 Genuine Human Bean! And a real hero.
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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« Last post by Griffith on October 14, 2017, 01:15:13 AM »
I still haven't caught up on the thread yet and am posting this on the go, but... I kind of didn't like it! :ganishka: Like I'm still waiting for it to get good but it ended 30 minutes ago and now I'm just waiting for pizza. I did dig the atmosphere, I'm definitely skulking around with an ominous Goslian look on my face (great casting for that part btw, definitely the role he was born to play =), but... I don't know what this was about and it didn't make me much care. The main conceit was a bit absurd to me, they don't really get into the nuts and bolts of it, and we're told it's so important but... I still don't see why (the good guys, bad guys, and their motives are all a bit muddled, incestuous and inconsequential)? I think the main thing even sorta misses the point, one could argue. Anyway, I thought it was all a bit simple, superficial and, given the relative lack of sizzle, all seasoning and no steak. Great seasoning though, top shelf, but where's the electronic mutton?

Disclaimer: That's my first impression though, which is often negative, the movie did have an affect on me and I'm still thinking about it, but we'll see if I'm haunted and drawn back, or if it's just lost in time, like tears in... forget it! Gotta get to my meeting. I'll be back when I've gathered my thoughts and read more impressions from this thread and elsewhere.
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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« Last post by MiyamotoPuck on October 13, 2017, 11:46:02 PM »
BOOOOOO! Well, then I'm not coming to visit this weekend, dad!
:ganishka:

The fire alarm went off during the trailers! Will update/consolidate posts later. :ganishka:
So unlucky! :judo:

I came out of the theater 2 hours ago, I had a really great time. Those 2h43 felt so short, I wish it was even longer! Just like the original Blade Runner, I really loved the awesome atmosphere. I don't really have anything to add to Walter's analysis except that I would give it a 9/10 and I think Ryan Gosling did a pretty good job.

And I don't really agree on Deckard being a replicant.
"We learn that Deckard went on the run with the remaining old-era replicants"
Didn't he run away with Rachel only?

"Fear of other blade runners hunting him"
Probably because he ran away with Rachel, and futhermore had a child.

"Wallace regards him as “a wonder” at his role in creating the first replicant child"
Maybe because he's a human having a child with a replicant?

I don't want to open a "nerd debate" as you call it because I don't really care, but I'm not really convinced. Perhaps I'm too naive, or I maybe need to rewatch the first Blade Runner to refresh my memory
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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Movies you've recently watched
« Last post by Oburi on October 13, 2017, 11:42:34 PM »
Well, I got my ticket to 2049 at 3:30pm after work, before I have to come back for an 8pm meeting, but the fucking movie is so long I had to bypass a theater a few blocks away because it doesn't start there until "4:30pm" and if they don't it get going before five I might not have time to get back and setup for my own meeting! :ganishka: So, given the date I decided to play it safe with the earlier showtime and a short drive. Will update with my thoughts when I can (when I finally read the thread after the embargo I had to put on a few days back =).

As an aside, at first I tried making a date to see it with my dad this weekend, as I first watched the original with him like 20 years ago  (:isidro:), but, despite the positive word of mouth and his only begotten son wanting to take him, he's going to wait for it to hit cable. :schierke: BOOOOOO! Well, then I'm not coming to visit this weekend, dad!

That's funny, I'm in the same position. My father and I are supposed to see it this weekend but since I work nights I have to try to find a showing that's earlier enough and close enough so that I can make it to work on time. But because it's so damn long, it's actually harder than I thought it would be. At least my dad did agree to go with me.  :ganishka: I think that's just because he misses me though.
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Berserk Merchandise / Re: First4Figures Berserk Line Announced
« Last post by Stardustgatzu on October 13, 2017, 10:42:53 PM »
Hey, it s really cool to see my friend incantation. Big kisses  :slan:
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Movies, TV, Books & Music / Re: Twin Peaks Returns
« Last post by NightCrawler on October 13, 2017, 10:15:30 PM »
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Berserk Merchandise / Re: First4Figures Berserk Line Announced
« Last post by iguana on October 13, 2017, 09:14:10 PM »
DirectDK maybe they even commented the P1 price for a short time, we will see but I could bet it will be not 1000 USD
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Berserk Merchandise / Re: First4Figures Berserk Line Announced
« Last post by DirectDK on October 13, 2017, 08:16:46 PM »
I definitely think he's gonna be more expensive than $600, however $1000 is too much IMO. Then again, their Bowser did end up at $699, and he is way shorter and far less complicated.

I totally agree, I'm so shocked about how expensive the Bowser is and the Mario Tanooki statue was.  I guess it must be solid resin, but still.

Great photo IncantatioN, looking really good! Both you and the statue. :slan: And F4F's Guts is definitely 1/4 scale, sorry if I made it sound like I thought otherwise.

Incantation always looks good.  Gotta hand it to the photographer too :carcus: hehehe.

No matter what, 75 cm is huge, and definitely impressive for a 1/4 piece. I just hope that DirectDK is wrong about the $1k price tag :puck: Would feel quite uncharacteristic coming from F4F.. It would be very heavy indeed, at least with P1's piece landing on the same price point.

I could definitely be wrong.  I hope I am!  Haha.  I was slightly distracted, chatting with Incantation / taking pics of the statue, when I overheard Chuckles talking with the other customer next to us.  I know he certainly said "$1000" but maybe I heard it out of context?  Personally speaking though, it was an impressive statue and as Incantation said... the Berserk inflation I think will play a part in the pricing.  If you look at the Max Factory statues too, those are upwards of $1000, so I wouldn't be surprised if F4F follows suit.  But we'll see!  Like I said, I hope I'm wrong!!!

Also, Chuckles mentioned to me (I did eventually talk to him haha), that there will be an exclusive version (the base will light up, as well as the faces on the bottom) and there will be an option for bloody vs non-bloody... which is quite reminiscent of AOW, haha.
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