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All praise Grail
Walter said:I think Schierke would deny that up until the moment they kissed
Stop this, your getting ahead of yourselves (and I can barely contain my excitement of that visual image)!
Walter said:I think Schierke would deny that up until the moment they kissed
Oburi said:I think this episode shows it a lot more than we've seen in the past.
Oburi said:When she shows up at Isma's place, even Isidro comments on how she seems "more scary" than usual.
Oburi said:That comment, along with Schierke's over the top reaction definitely seem to be the results of a romance in the making.
Proj2501 said:Miura has really planted the seeds of those two eventually getting together. Their awkward first encounter with one another, Isidro fighting to protect her on the docks (Isi's first time fighting against normal people btw), along with their constant banter. One day he's going to stop being 'The Monkey' and win her over in a serious way. Just watch.
Oburi said:Also there is so much fish in this episode. Even Isidro is eating fish at Isma's and it looks like the signpost for the inn is a jug and a cup on a fish ( which is ironic if it was always there even before the villagers changed into fish eating monsters) . Just a few more to go along with all the other fish references.
Proj2501 said:Here's some quick speculation of Isma's future. She'll turn out to be friendly, maybe get close to the group. Eventually Guts and Co. will have to deal with whatever creature/God is in the cave and she'll wind up dying protecting the band.
Proj2501 said:Or hell, maybe she'll live and wind up staying on the island.
Proj2501 said:Like Azan was reintroduced and it's been sometime and I feel like he's just kinda there as backdrop. He really hasn't said much.
Proj2501 said:I would die laughing if and when they ever kiss that as they are doing so, cartoony Puck goes to grab Ivarella's hand and she subsequently whack's him in the face.
Walter said:Schierke seemed a little hurt, to me. She was genuinely worried about him after finding his dagger in the cave, and sought him out... only to find he was boob-gazing. Poor Schierke...
Aazealh said:Honestly? Not particularly in my opinion. It's more of a continuation of their history together, and I don't expect anything spectacular to happen soon. Miura's developing this really slowly and subtly. The payoff will likely be years from now.
Armando said:I'm sorry to say and contradict flagawax, but in my vision this episode was a lame. I'm really questioning, what Berserk is going to become? A fairytale? And of course, Miura is stalling the history in my vision, what can happen in that island that can't in Elfhelm? And of course, what is the purpose in stopping in this island??
Armando said:So i agree with Aazealh:
Let's sit and wait.
Rhombaad said:What's amusing to me is that once Berserk is complete all these complainers will talk about how awesome this section of the story was.
Aazealh said:Oh you probably won't need to wait that long. By volume 40 some people will already be complaining about where they think the story is headed compared to the awesomeness that was the Sea God in volume 35.
Aazealh said:You know what your comment reminds me of? People complaining that Guts and the others going in the Qliphoth to rescue Casca and Farnese was "filler" and "a waste of time". Look how that turned out.
Who said they were painful and distracting? Anyway, it's no secret that people complain about the story regardless of what's happening. Trust me, I've seen every variation of complaint. "Not enough Griffith/Guts." "Too much Griffith/Guts." "When are they getting on/off the boat already?!?" Soon it will be "Are they STILL in Elfhelm?"Shadax said:The reason these "asides" seem so painfull and distracting atm is because beserk comes out at a slower pace then we personally want to which sort of skews our sense of pacing for the story. Making it seem like certain parts are dragged out when in reality they aren't.
Which was more boring, the epic battle with humans, apostles and chibishka as a towering god like creature smashed the nation's capital, or the showdown between Femto and Skull Knight? That whole portion of the manga (vol 34) was among the most exciting and climactic in the past 10 years.The parts with Griff however bored me to death.
There was pretty graphic stuff before the Eclipse, you know. If you're so fragile, maybe you should have stopped during the Donovan scene?But that was also true during the golden age before my mind got horribly scarred by full graphic demon rape.
I think you've been missing the point, distracted by the magicalness of these items. The introduction of magic has actually heightened the sense of impending doom and mortality for the characters. They have to use these enhanced weapons to stay alive because the stakes have heightened. And it was specifically because of the danger of the Berserk Armor that Guts had to grapple with what was most important to him during volume 27. Time and time again, Guts has to wrestle between his good and base desires as a result of using this magical armor.I will however admit that I personally am not a big fan of magical daggers and summoning of spirits etc because that sort of detracts from the "humanity" of the protagonists in their struggle.
Walter said:Which was more boring, the epic battle with humans, apostles and chibishka as a towering god like creature smashed the nation's capital, or the showdown between Femto and Skull Knight? That whole portion of the
that sort of detracts from the "humanity" of the protagonists in their struggle.
Walter said:I don't think I was especially hard on him. I actually added to the point he was making about people complaining about the series by giving specific examples I've seen over the years. My point is that people will always complain about ignorant shit regardless of the circumstances.
As to your last point, I don't really have any pity for people who turn their impatience at the episode releases into anger at Miura or Berserk. They're not worth my time, and shouldn't even call themselves fans of the series. They're so intent on satisfying their fleeting, personal cravings that they don't realize that time is required for a series to reach its full potential.
How's that for hard?
Armando said:I'm sorry to say and contradict flagawax, but in my vision this episode was a lame. I'm really questioning, what Berserk is going to become? A fairytale? And of course, Miura is stalling the history in my vision, what can happen in that island that can't in Elfhelm? And of course, what is the purpose in stopping in this island?? So i agree with Aazealh:
Let's sit and wait.
Shadax said:The reason these "asides" seem so painfull and distracting atm is because beserk comes out at a slower pace then we personally want to which sort of skews our sense of pacing for the story. Making it seem like certain parts are dragged out when in reality they aren't.
Also, this whole seagod stuff etc is more to set the stage for the new state of the world and to make the journey to Elfhelm be more then a short hop. Also, I really enjoy these parts. The parts with Griff however bored me to death. Also, like others have said, the story has been down the same path for years. It has become a little more mellow at the moment. But that was also true during the golden age before my mind got horribly scarred by full graphic demon rape. The story swings along all ranges of the spectrum. I will however admit that I personally am not a big fan of magical daggers and summoning of spirits etc because that sort of detracts from the "humanity" of the protagonists in their struggle.
Jaze1618 said:Well said Walter. More to the point, marathoning a new series in only few sittings is a classic give away of having done so without ever owning or purchasing a single volume of the manga.
Walter said:Who said they were painful and distracting? Anyway, it's no secret that people complain about the story regardless of what's happening. Trust me, I've seen every variation of complaint. "Not enough Griffith/Guts." "Too much Griffith/Guts." "When are they getting on/off the boat already?!?" Soon it will be "Are they STILL in Elfhelm?"
Walter said:Which was more boring, the epic battle with humans, apostles and chibishka as a towering god like creature smashed the nation's capital, or the showdown between Femto and Skull Knight? That whole portion of the manga (vol 34) was among the most exciting and climactic in the past 10 years.
Walter said:There was pretty graphic stuff before the Eclipse, you know. If you're so fragile, maybe you should have stopped during the Donovan scene?
Walter said:I think you've been missing the point, distracted by the magicalness of these items. The introduction of magic has actually heightened the sense of impending doom and mortality for the characters. They have to use these enhanced weapons to stay alive because the stakes have heightened. And it was specifically because of the danger of the Berserk Armor that Guts had to grapple with what was most important to him during volume 27. Time and time again, Guts has to wrestle between his good and base desires as a result of using this magical armor.
Shadax said:It was just my assumption on how many people could feel about it. Not my personal view, nor yours perhaps, but there are quite a few people whom I know that feel/felt like this about certain parts. Not something important enough to quote me about. Quite a lot of people do feel like this, I was just giving my say on that from a personal view.
Shadax said:Opionons. The battle with Ghanishka felt like a farce to me and how big he was, was completely meaningless. We know what Griffith is capable off to an extent and that Ghanishka would be dead the second Griffith actually wanted him dead. So no, for me it felt like "yeah, get the charade on already" Again, opinions, we all get our kicks from different things.
Shadax said:I see your point, but I like it better if the humans win battles by their own skill and strength and growth.
Shadax said:I was not talking so much about Guts armor since that just brings a whole new extra dimension to the story and his struggle. I was talking about magical daggers and summoning spirits and mystical capes. FOR ME, that makes it feel like the characters aren't winning completely by their own merits anymore once they start using those things in more battles.
Shadax said:If anyone feels offended by me not thinking Griffith is all that interesting up to this point, well though shit.
Shadax said:To get back on track. I am really curious what the deal with that new girl is. What are her motivations exactly and what role will she play? Really exciting stuff to me, as is that mysterious sea-god.
Well, the axe that Guts didn't accept was of the Earth element. Not saying that rules out another person joining with Earth though.pjboom said:Amen Aazealh, sorry but I had to say it.
By the way, if Isma eventually joins the party that would cover the 3 elements, only earth would remain. This is just an opinion but maybe Miura is building the party in order to introduce some kind of help from the 4 elemental Kings, since they are probably the only entities close to the God hand in power terms (just speculation though).
pjboom said:Amen Aazealh, sorry but I had to say it.
pjboom said:By the way, if Isma eventually joins the party that would cover the 3 elements, only earth would remain. This is just an opinion but maybe Miura is building the party in order to introduce some kind of help from the 4 elemental Kings, since they are probably the only entities close to the God hand in power terms (just speculation though).