Episode 371
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A small detail occurred to me: We're seven episodes into Volume 42 territory (365–371). And the last two volumes were just seven episodes each. If that's the case, Volume 42 could be announced shortly. Of course, now that they're very actively spitting out episodes, maybe they'll wait for more before binding it in a volume. Afterall, seven episodes was the absolute minimum to constitute a volume, and the '90s had as many as 11 episodes.
No no no, you see they had to show (again) that the sword worked in the past and now Guts is (still) very very sad. Veeery important stuff!
Sure, you could ask why Guts doesn't come to the conclusion that Griffith isn't like the Apostles or monsters he fought in the past (he should already know that tho) and that he should have expected that killing him with the dragonslayer won't be that easy...but he is so very very very sad that he can't think about that...or Casca.
Edit: I just remembered something: Didn't Guts try to attack Femto and failed in a very early episode?? Not during the Eclipse but later in the timeline. And now he acts like it's totally shocking and unexpected that he couldn't hit Griffith. Jesus what is Mori doing to this character? Nothing makes any sense.
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I know, and I agree that's how it should work; I was trying to be cheeky.
But it's such a common misconception, I think Studio Gaga could be thinking like that. Guts's consciousness recedes -> Beast is free to take over and go on a rampage.I hope not, but I'm losing more faith in this continuation episode by episode. So many decisions taken have just been bad, almost bafflingly bad.
He did
The revelation of the sea behind Falconia, left me without words....After all they fucked up in the last episodes this for me it's the cherry on the top
After this pearl and from their way of keeping depicting the berserker armor and the beast of Darkness relation, I'm really starting to fear that they didn't let the armor activate during the duel with Griffith because they may be using it as a power up to kill him in the end.
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He failed to strike Femto in the Black Swordman arc, but to be fair Femto actively resisted his efforts, flinging him away. He didn't just stand there with Guts unable to hit him regardless. Still not sure if that's a new power or the new, poor way of depicting Griffith being untouchable, like the volley of arrows mysteriously all missing him in War Cry Of The Wind.
I know, and I agree that's how it should work; I was trying to be cheeky.But it's such a common misconception, I think Studio Gaga could be thinking like that. Guts's consciousness recedes -> Beast is free to take over and go on a rampage.
Ah, I see. Unfortunately, because these misconceptions are so widespread, it's better to make it clear when you're joking.
Anyway, as for what Studio Gaga is thinking... My gut feeling is that they're just reaching for imagery that's visually striking and cool, without putting too much thought on whether it makes sense or not.Let's hope not...
It functions exactly like what we saw in Shet, so I assume it's the same thing. Schierke's comment also goes that way. Of course, that only underscores how over the top Guts' reaction is. It feels like it could be cleared up in 30 seconds.
Guts: *sniffle* Why, oh why couldn't I hit him?
Schierke: He's got a magic thing going on, very powerful.
Guts: Oh. Right, he is one of those God Hand guys after all. Whoops, I forgot. Uh, you couldn't nullify it or something, by any chance?
Schierke: Yeah probably, I should ask the Great Gurus.
Guts: Alright, great! I'm back in business! Just kinda feels like I forgot about something or someone though... Oh well, probably nothing important.
until 364 we were witnessing actual history, after that it was written down by historians. kinda like GRRM did in that one book, so don’t take anything as fact, and even if the historian says guts didn’t think about casca, thats still only the historians guess. (my cope). I’m pretty sure guts thought about casca here, the historian simply didnt know.
There's another thing I noticed.
It seems that Mori it's completely ignoring the fact that Guts son and Griffith share the same flesh (and I hope I'm wrong).
I don't know when or how Miura would have addressed this, but Guts hasn't made that connection at all in the last episodes.
Yes, this is at least a reason to re-introduce Skull Knight into the story. He will probably come back and do some explanation about it ("As dictated by Causality"
).But strikes me as odd, since it could potentially bring more drama to Guts breakdown, when he was actually fighting with Griffith.
Yeah I mentioned this a number of times over the course of the previous episodes. Casca's abduction is the most egregious thing to ignore, but not reflecting on the fact the boy transformed into Griffith in front of his eyes is an easy second.
Yes, this is at least a reason to re-introduce Skull Knight into the story. He will probably come back and do some explanation about it ("As dictated by Causality"
I'd prefer not having to endure another instance of empty, crudely imitated dialogue from the Skull Knight. Not to mention that Guts could put two and two together. He saw his son inside the beherit apostle at the tower. He thought back to him when the Boy in the Moonlight first made an appearance. And Griffith pretty much explained what was happening in episode 364.
Just making some (probably stupid) questions.
Right now Guts is at his lowest.
Can the Behelit that he's carrying activate?
Would that be reasonable at this point in the story?
I know he wouldn't sacrifice anyone, otherwise it would completely kill him as a character.
Having said that though...the God Hand members always appears when a Behelit is activated.
Could this be used as an opportunity to strike them?
Guts probably wouldn't even do a thing, but if Skully is nearby, maybe he can actually do something.
Right now Guts is at his lowest.
Can the Behelit that he's carrying activate?
Would that be reasonable at this point in the story?
I know he wouldn't sacrifice anyone, otherwise it would completely kill him as a character.
Having said that though...the God Hand members always appears when a Behelit is activated.
Could this be used as an opportunity to strike them?
Guts probably wouldn't even do a thing, but if Skully is nearby, maybe he can actually do something.
I don't think it would make sense.
Nope. He asked Flora that question in volume 24. It doesn't work like that. Besides, a similar situation already happened in volume 3.
This is why I was thinking about this, but with the possibility of Skully intervening.
Anyway, thanks for the reminder about Flora.
With how Mori and Studio Gaga have misunderstood how traveling along the world tree works, and how the Beast of Darkness works, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they have also misunderstood how the beherit works.
Maybe it will activate and Guts will sacrifice his most cherished love: his sword!
Maybe it will activate and Guts will sacrifice his most cherished love: his sword!
As far as I'm concerned, nothing after 364 is canon. I don't care if the continuation is legally recognized as official Berserk material. It already contradicts too much from Miura's original run to be compatible with it. For Godhand's sake, they turned the capital of Midland into a coastal city.
The Dragon Slayer has memories now? I know it's imbued with astral power, but it's not sentient right? That's the impression I got from the latest episode.
Sadly, this continuation only compounds the absence of Miura with each instalment. Guts having an emotional nadir after the loss of Casca, those feelings of powerlessness, and the revelation of his son, would have been an extremely profound moment in the hands of its creator. Instead, it's all too simplistic and lacking in nuance. And unfortunately that's the state of play going forward with the series.
Sadly, this continuation only compounds the absence of Miura with each instalment. Guts having an emotional nadir after the loss of Casca, those feelings of powerlessness, and the revelation of his son, would have been an extremely profound moment in the hands of its creator. Instead, it's all too simplistic and lacking in nuance. And unfortunately that's the state of play going forward with the series.
I don’t really see how you thought dragon slayer had memories; didn’t get that impression. But yeah i agree i wish there was more inner dialogue it seems like guts has reverted alot but at the same time slan did mention in fotme that guts’ fear is as strong as his rage and the worst case scenario did happen so maybe he’s just completely defeated . Would make sense as well as even back then he rejected that magic axe when the rest of the party was accepting their gifts because he was that confident about his sword and ability; now connecting to 371 where he says it was all for nothing perhaps that is the connection studio gaga is tryna make. Hard to really know
I believe Masa was sarcastically pointing out how poor of a choice it is to have Guts reflect on "times he used his sword".
The worst case scenario being that he didn't manage to hurt Griffith with his sword?
I can't fault you for trying to rationalize what's on the page, however I guarantee you they aren't trying to make that connection. I'd be surprised if they even remembered that scene, honestly.
Guts has always been confident in his fighting ability (rightly so), and his prowess wasn't the issue here, nor was it his sword. Using that axe would have made no difference because it seems Griffith can deflect any attack using his tremendous power. He even deflected the Skull Knight's special sword technique on top of Ganishka! The problem is really with how things are depicted, meaning with the choices Mori and Studio Gaga have made. Sadly, they're just not doing a very good job.
Agreed; this is what I've been thinking lately. I've tried giving Mori and Studio Gaga the benefit of the doubt given the impossible task they took upon themselves, but putting an ocean next to Falconia was a bit much. It's a bit distressing to me that the people who had been working on Berserk for years somehow have a lesser grasp of the details than many of the people who just read it.
Then again, this does remind me of an interview with some ex-Team Andromeda folks, and Hidetoshi Takeshita (the chief programmer) didn't actually know much about the game outside of the code.
But even then, Mori really should've taken it upon himself to get a grip on the details and not let so many inconsistencies through.