Yeah, I don't think it's over by any means, and I'd like to think I have a pretty good read on Inoue. Here's what I said concerning his first hint that he was ready to lay down his pen:
Griffith said:
I'm actually not too worried about this. To put it in terms Inoue would understand, I'm taking his possible retirement announcement about as seriously as Allen Iverson's. It's also hard for me to believe anyone is pressuring Inoue more than himself; at this stage of his career, whatever his contract, he can probably do what he wants (he already took a year off from Vagabond to recharge once), and most of this pressure on him probably comes from within. I don't think anyone that self-motivated is just going to stop either, for a while a maybe, but Inoue's work almost seems like a compulsion. In a sick selfish way, I'm kind of looking forward to how he will channel these feelings into Vagabond going forward (as he's already been doing). Best case scenario, his work becomes that much more personal, unpredictable, and inspired... worst case, he detaches himself and just starts grinding it out. I don't think that could happen though, even if he tried.
I'm just glad it wasn't the worst case scenario, and I'm happy I used that sports analogy, because I honestly think it's the same thing. When you're the best at something, it's hard to retire, and even harder to stay retired. Like Wally said, he'll be back. New worst case scenario...
Vagabond: 20 Years Later.
Again, not even really surprised, as Eluvei pointed out, Inoue has been vocally unhappy for a while now, and specifically concerning Vagabond. Speaking of which, this text from the back of Last Manga stands out to me:
Griffith said:
Here's what Inoue had to say about it:
"I thought "The LAST Manga Exhibition" could become an
opportunity for me, to turn the "Musashi" I depicted and
his lifetime of killing dozens of people into a positive, despite
everything.
What I'm trying to say is--
The people that read "Vagabond" all along.
The people that accepted my many twists and turns during
these 10 years, and kept following me.
I really, really wanted to make them feel good.
"I'm glad I kept reading." --
I absolutely wanted to make them feel that way.
Drawing "shadows" to draw "light."
Conflicts and killing people are "shadows."
I thought I had to draw that side, or I wouldn't be able to see
the "light."
I thought that was what I was proceeding towards.
However, even if it was something along the path to my
destination, the pictures that depict killing people, although
pictures, also had the power to unconciously hurt people's
hearts.
Unseen thorns were left remaining in the reader and the
artist.
When I discovered a part of myself that felt, I don't want to
show these to people that still have God-like, bare open souls,
like young children, I felt this was a certainty.
I'm glad I was able to draw this story at this time.
No, it had to be this time, and it had to be a "Manga drawn
in space, experienced with one's entire body," or it really
wouldn't have been possible to get across.
I now truly feel that I finally had an opportunity to depict
"light" itself.
When I think so, it all wasn't a mistake. It turned into the
exact form I was proceeding to.
Even when I depict sorrow, it is no longer sorrow without a
destination.
July 2008
Inoue Takehiko"
It's like he's not just tired of being a mangaka in general, but specifically because of the toll Vagabond is taking on him. I've been wrong before though, here was my fan-tastic take at the time:
Griffith said:
Wow, Musashi's journey has been Inoue's and vice versa far beyond just the relationship between author and character. I'm taking it altogether, I can't really see any other way, and what's interesting is how all this co-exists; Vagabond as it continues now is both taking place before and yet spiritually beyond "the end" Inoue has depicted here. For Inoue, is The LAST Manga Exhibition an epilogue, or is that what the rest of Vagabond is now?
Well, now we know what it means for the rest of Vagabond.
Finally, since this might be our last Vagachat for a while, I thought I'd share my convo with Wally about this. I basically covers the rest of my feelings if I haven't made them clear:
Griffith 7:23 pm
"Didn't expect to be this popular. Maybe I should run away. From here on... the tale's not so pleasant to tell."
Walter 7:24 pm
?
Griffith 7:24 pm
Matahachi in volume 33. =)
Walter 7:24 pm
ah, havent bought mine yet
Griffith 7:25 pm
Well, you have plenty of time to catch up.
It's the last volume as things stand.
You've followed Inoue longer than I, and there's already precedent with his break after 20, but is this... usual?
Griffith 7:26 pm
Did he ever burn out on Slam Dunk?
Walter 7:27 pm
nah
it was differnet though
it was for Jump, and they have very strict deadlines
and since he was young back then, he couldnt just let it slide on his name.
Griffith 7:27 pm
Plus, the material had to be more lighthearted.
Walter 7:27 pm
quality suffered at times. the art is very, very simple.
Griffith 7:28 pm
It's like this is killing him.
Walter 7:28 pm
it's much more circuitous than Vagabond, as far as pacing and direction.
Walter 7:28 pm
what's the newest word on Inoue?
i know he's expressed frustration or difficulties
but... has he said IM DONE?
Griffith 7:29 pm
Yep.
Walter 7:29 pm
wha? really?
jesus...
what a way to end
Griffith 7:30 pm
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=10392.msg193391#msg193391
Well, it's more an indefinite break.
STOP
For now...
Walter 7:30 pm
very weird
is there precedent for something like this?
like, other series?
ive never heard of something like it.
Walter 7:30 pm
i wonder what his plans are.
like, what's replacing Vagabond, if anything?
Griffith 7:31 pm
He just says he's not starting again until it's fun again... uhhh.
I don't know, the guy has seemed tortured for a while now.
I think he might hate his series. =)
Walter 7:31 pm
hehe
he's so close to the end though
i mean, you can almost reach out and touch it
Griffith 7:32 pm
http://www.skullknight.net/forum/index.php?topic=11141.msg179313#msg179313
I also think he's a bit lost.
Like, he doesn't know how to end it.
Walter 7:32 pm
"Even more a conclusion than the actual releases will prove to be?"
Griffith 7:32 pm
I mean, everything he says about it is conflicted.
Walter 7:32 pm
CORRECT
Griffith 7:33 pm
Maybe he feels the same way about the last manga as you. =)
"Well, I've seen the end already"
And yeah, fitting.
Walter 7:33 pm
no kidding, I think the Yoshioka 100-man-battle broke him.
Griffith 7:34 pm
It gave him PTSD.
Walter 7:34 pm
wasnt that where the release pacing started to drift off
Griffith 7:35 pm
He's still done 6 volumes since then.
Walter 7:35 pm
thing is, that volume,w hat is it, 26? is awesome
Griffith 7:35 pm
But there's been no... arc since then.
Walter 7:35 pm
quality wasnt suffering
yeah...
Griffith 7:35 pm
Other than the prison stuff.
Walter 7:35 pm
there've been great moments to be had, but a lack of direction.
Griffith 7:35 pm
He's sort of wandering as much as Musashi is.
Walter 7:35 pm
and thats not a problem, per se.
Griffith 7:35 pm
Lost in the woods.
Yeah, I've enjoyed it.
Walter 7:35 pm
but apparently it is for Inoue.
Griffith 7:36 pm
But it suggests he's not any closer to finishing.
Like he wants to, but can't without settling./
"They fight, Musashi wins, Good enough."
Walter 7:36 pm
Artists are a fickle lot. He'll be back within the year =)
Griffith 7:36 pm
Yeah, I'm not worried.
Enjoying the ride.
Guy seems so pained though, they're just cartoons Inoue!
They didn't really have families. =)
Walter 7:37 pm
heheh
Griffith 7:37 pm
"I killed them."
Walter 7:37 pm
and yeah he's diverged from the "historical approach" so much he shouldn't be overly concerned with that stuff, if it's weighing him down.
just stuff id like to tell him
Griffith 7:38 pm
I think its the opposite problem, he's undecided what HE wants to do with it.
Going the historical route or following MUSASHI would be easy.
Walter 7:39 pm
ah, yeah
the bookend for the series has to be substantial
i get that
i dunno though... i feel he could come up with something
i have a great visual in my head of what it'll be like
and he can do better than that
Just draw Mushi and Kojiro on the beach, not squaring off but dueling with sticks =)
the end
Griffith 7:42 pm
He already has them walking away on the beach together in LAST manga.
Also, the way he seems to feel about, like he's done a terrible thing here
His writings makes it sound as if he's been chronicling a romanticized version of Hitler's life. =)
Walter 7:43 pm
he needs to visit Miura. needs a mentoring session
Griffith 7:44 pm
Like Musashi can't be redeemed.
Or hasn't been in his eyes.
Walter 7:44 pm
i got that sense too
but, i dont feel that.
Griffith 7:44 pm
We're on the same page.
Walter 7:44 pm
and i think it's wrong for him to feel that way.
Griffith 7:44 pm
Yeah
Griffith 7:45 pm
If he wants to reconcile those feelings though, he could make that the motivation for why Musashi is more or less done after the Kojiro fight.
In that case, he should make it starkly horrible.
Kojiro's death.
Walter 7:45 pm
hahahah
Griffith 7:47 pm
So, I don't know, but I honestly am kind of relieved that the series has been stopped rather than rushed to an end.
Walter 7:47 pm
its also good to know where it stands.
before i kept thinking i was just missing the releases.
Griffith 7:48 pm
lol
I thought you were referencing the new Berserk anime.
I almost did.
"Nice to KNOW!"
Walter 7:48 pm
what new anime? =)