- Well that's where i disagree. I dont think it is garbage. I do think that it is bad however. But even if that bad stuff lets us towards the end and answers some questions, I'l accept it. None of us can affect the outcome, so I'll criticize and roll my eyes at it, but I appreciate getting something rather than nothing.
It seems spurious to argue the degree to which it's bad. It's a cop out. And it doesn't matter that it "answers questions" if the answers are wrong. The whole point should be to convey Miura's vision, and it's clearly not doing that.
If that's fine with you, then like I said before it just shows your lack of care for the series. It's an admission that you'll take anything as long as it vaguely resembles an ending so that you can forget about it and move on. You're free to do so as a self-labeled narcissist, but don't try to pass it off as a reasonable position.
- I'm not disagreeing with you that they have gone against established facts. I understand that. It irks me too. I just hope that they do better.
"Going against established facts" is an euphemism at this point. This isn't something that can be fixed or can get better. The damage to the narrative is irreparable.
- What i meant with the dialogue thing is that, there is not a lot of meaningful dialogue and the pace sometimes is very slow and sometimes too fast.
There is no meaningful dialogue at all, but there is still a lot of dialogue. And the pacing is terrible, but that's a completely different issue. Regardless, all of this contributes to what I'm telling you: there is no value to this Continuation. It's a big nothingburger.
- I did acknowledge that him not thinking about casca at all is strange and out of character for him, his OTHER behaviour is on point though. Emphasis is on the other part here. If you've ever seen depictions of existential depression or experienced it, it is like that. Some who suffer is cant even find the will to get out of bed, because it cripples them.
No, his behavior is not "on point", even if you ignore his ridiculous dismissal of Casca, which you really shouldn't. The very fact you're willing to do so, to ignore that giant misconception about his character, shows that your mindset is not in the right place. You're trying to find the Continuation excuses instead of seeing it for what it is.
As for "his other behavior" (turning into a loser), I already made it clear why it's not "on point" either and you can't just brush it aside. Guts is not a character that is prone to "existential depression" and would stay listless on the floor as his friends were about to die, soiling himself and unable to even speak. That is completely antithetical to who he is, as established time and again in Berserk.
Beyond that, there is just no basis to the idea that he would be "broken" by the fact Griffith's otherworldly powers allowed him to deflect his attacks. This is the key thing here. Would Guts be anguished if Griffith abducted Casca? Sure. Would he be hopelessly "broken" and stay like that with no development for 15 episodes because he couldn't hit him? No. Miura had set up a lot of things for his character, and that is not one of them. It's just something the Continuation team decided to do because it's easier than addressing what Miura had planned.
This is made obvious by the way it's been handled: Guts has had no internal dialogue since episode 373, and what we saw then was a huge incoherent mess, full of mistaken notions that amounted to nothing beyond saying "he's distraught". They completely misconstrued the Beast of Darkness, completely misunderstood how he views his sword in relation to himself, and all but hollowed him out by presenting a version of his memories that's devoid of any meaningful moment.
And since then? Nothing. Sidelined. That's not "on point".
- there's a good dialogue from the Van gogh movie between two characters
Who cares, that's completely irrelevant.
Guts surviving the eclipse itself borders on superhuman(recall how Zodd himself was shocked by his survival), and he is literally running on fumes since then. He has so far done what no human has been able to do. It does not mean that he can take anything and shrug it off endlessly just because he is "the emodiment of human will".
He was bound to reach his breaking point, because he is a fully fleshed character and not some 2 dimensional character from an action movie.
This is his breaking point. Yes, it has been depicted terribly by Mori and team, but it is that.
You're missing the forest for the trees. Guts has survived a ton of things his entire life, not just the Eclipse. Being a survivor is at the core of his character. "He was bound to reach his breaking point" isn't an actual argument, and is not supported by anything in particular. It's just a baseless assertion. Saying "he's been running on fumes since the Eclipse" is objectively wrong, too. More importantly, none of this can justify the treatment of his character for the past 15 episodes.
Because that's what matters: that it's depicted nonsensically. That he's been pushed aside so that they could focus on a different narrative that goes squarely against what Miura intended for the story. You're brushing it off like that's not important, but in truth it's what's most important. The "how", not the "what". In that regard, it's hilarious you have the gall to mention Guts not being a two dimensional character when his depiction in the Continuation has been one dimensional.
The whole point should be to depict him sensibly, with nuance and care. Same for other characters obviously, but as the protagonist he's the one character they absolutely shouldn't have messed up, and they did. As I said above, that's not something that's fixable anymore at this point. The same goes for the rest of the story. Guts will fight Griffith in the end, you don't need the Continuation to know that. And if their depiction of that fight fucking sucks, which it will, then there's no point in doing it.
- The point with the sysiphus myth is that man can see himself in that mythical figure
Look, you completely botched that Sysiphus comparison, you got it all wrong and it makes no sense. You'd do best to just drop it instead of trying to weasel out.
The philosopher Camus wrote an essay about how one must imagine Sysiphus happy, that one must understand that you the reader are projecting your pov on Sysiphus. The pov that he must be miserable, endlessly roling this rock up a hill and miserably watching it go down, but what if, what if he accepts this fate of his? Is he then still miserable? What if instead, he finds it deeply meaningful?
You're mistaken. Camus' point is that one should accept the absurdity of life, which is how he posits Sisyphus can learn to live with his condition. The essay itself is about absurdity. The actual myth of Sisyphus is however a tragedy, where the king is eternally punished for having tried to outsmart the Gods. Anyway, this is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.
Guts is in a similar predicament. Griffith can endlessly undo anything he does, and his sword will never reach him.
That's just not true. Griffith has not "undone" anything, he's abducted Casca. It's not like he broke her mind again. They're keeping her drugged and caged to prevent her from escaping. And a 30 seconds conversation with Schierke should suffice to inform Guts that the ethereal maelstrom around Griffith is what protects him, therefore showing the path to harming him. But this is missing the point of what Guts' anguish should really be about anyway.
He'll collect himself and then he'll move forward, that is what Guts is.
Well according to Camus' essay, Guts should just accept the hopelessness of his condition, learn to live with it. Was that your point? No? Well then you better drop the half-assed literary references. More seriously, it's funny to me that you're simultaneously saying Guts will move forward because that's who he is (no shit) while trying to justify the fact he hasn't moved forward one iota over the past 15 episodes and saying that's "on point". Talk about a cognitive dissonance!
What hasn't hit you yet is that Guts getting back on his feet won't be a watershed moment where everything starts making sense and the characters behave normally. It will still suck, and possibly more than before. It also won't undo the past mistakes. Long story short, the Continuation can't be redeemed. If you believe otherwise, you're deluded.
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