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Episode 313
« on: June 09, 2010, 07:38:49 AM »
Title: 禍海の者共 - All the pawns on the sinister sea



Berserk is returning on June 25, in YA #13. :guts:


Additionally, Miura did a one-shot to voice his opinion about Tokyo's recent reform bill to censor the depiction of youth in manga (a lot of high profile mangaka like Tetsuya Chiba and Go Nagai have been opposing it in the past few months). It will be published in YA #12.

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 07:50:25 AM »

Offline Maldoror

Re: Episode 313
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 08:11:52 AM »
Wooho, new episode! Can't wait to see more interaction from Schierke, Isidro and Isma! And I bet we'll get some action from Guts and crew in that tavern too!

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 09:06:55 AM »
well I can't wait to see how Miura will respond to that..especially that he has a lot of history considering this kind of stuff.
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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 09:17:48 AM »
well I can't wait to see how Miura will respond to that..especially that he has a lot of history considering this kind of stuff.

It looks like he went for a light hearted approach, if you check the link in my post. But yeah, Berserk would be particularly affected by a bill like that, if you think back to Guts' rape at the hands of Donovan or to Jill's relationship with her father and his friends among other things. Apparently the bill in question is worded in such vague terms that it's the very definition of a slippery slope.

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 10:23:51 AM »
But is this bill about censoring the manga itself or about preventing minors from buying publications that contain such material? Aazealh's link seems to indicate latter is the case? If so, we wouldn't need to worry about Berserk getting censored, it being a "mature" manga already, right? But it might affect the sales anyway :sad:. These are unsettling news, censoring art in any way is a really bad idea.
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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 10:48:05 AM »
But is this bill about censoring the manga itself or about preventing the minors to buy publications that contain such material? From what I could gather from Aazealh's link it seems to be the latter? If so, then we wouldn't need to worry about Berserk getting censored, it being a "mature" manga already, right? But it might affect the sales anyway :sad:. These are unsettling news, censoring art in any way is a really bad idea.
yeah.. censoring berserk sounds horrible.  :puck:
but the news of a new episode coming out sounds GREAT!  :serpico:
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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 11:33:26 AM »
But is this bill about censoring the manga itself or about preventing minors from buying publications that contain such material? Aazealh's link seems to indicate latter is the case? If so, we wouldn't need to worry about Berserk getting censored, it being a "mature" manga already, right? But it might affect the sales anyway :sad:. These are unsettling news, censoring art in any way is a really bad idea.

It's about forbidding works of art that depict characters under 18 in a sexual context from being sold to minors, as well as those depicting "socially unacceptable" things like rape. The problem is that while the intended target is the porn market, the wording of the bill is so vague that cases where these depictions are legitimate could very well fall under the same category, resulting in the censorship of many "serious" series.

Like I said earlier it's perceived as one big slippery slope where freedom of expression is at risk for the artists, especially in the case of works like Berserk that touch on sensitive issues (the rape of Guts as a child is a perfect example). As a result a lot of artists have been publicly opposing the bill for months, and apparently Miura decided to weight in as well. It's been a huge controversy in Japan, so I imagine the bill will eventually be reworded to be more specific.

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 12:16:00 PM »
Berserk is returning on June 25, in YA #13. :guts:

Well! Suddenly, not only is this /day/ awesome, but the whole month!  :ubik:

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 12:21:34 PM »
I am glad to see that the new episode is coming, but horrified to read that the censorship wants to reduce to a dull and childish concept the artists' expression or thematics. It's unacceptable!

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2010, 12:25:07 PM »
It's been a huge controversy in Japan, so I imagine the bill will eventually be reworded to be more specific.

Let's hope so! Like you said, it would really limit the artists' freedom when dealing with darker subjects... I would hate to see Berserk forced to compromise with something like that. Somehow though, I don't think that will ever happen. :)
By the way, Miura's illustration is really cool, with those "pedos" rushing towards manga characters! No doubt that's how those who advocate bills like this one perceive things. :serpico:
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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2010, 12:44:04 PM »
Let's hope so! Like you said, it would really limit the artists' freedom when dealing with darker subjects... I would hate seeing Berserk forced to compromise with something like that. Somehow though, I don't see that ever happening. :)

Yeah, while I'm not too worried about Berserk itself (since it's aimed at adults to begin with), the problem is that editors could start pressuring artists to avoid seeing some series or magazines falling under the bill, and that's not a very desirable situation no matter how you look at it. It's really a very big deal for the manga industry.

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 03:37:54 PM »
Berserk is returning on June 25, in YA #13. :guts:

Awesome news! :guts:

Additionally, Miura did a one-shot to voice his opinion about Tokyo's recent reform bill to censor the depiction of youth in manga (a lot of high profile mangaka like Tetsuya Chiba and Go Nagai have been opposing it in the past few months). It will be published in YA #12.

That one-shot is hilarious. The actual issue, however, is pretty disturbing. While the goal of the bill may not be malicious, it would suck if it ends up forcing artists like Miura to censor their work.

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 07:26:52 PM »
*get home from work*
"I should check skullknight to see if the new EPISODE has a date yet.....oh wait I checked yesterday, not much point......the hell with it I will do it anyway"

everything went better than expected

anyway, that preview pic bodes well; looks like guts and co are going to be getting a lot more panel time....in combat, no less!
makes sense, it seems to be a trend that the story does "griffith chunks", where he gets several EPISODES in a row until something big happens in his side of the story (which innevitably affects guts), then we go back to guts for a while
building a futuristic, magical kingdom and simultaneously obliterating the borders between spiritual realms can be considered "something big"

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2010, 07:46:50 PM »
anyway, that preview pic bodes well
It's not a preview picture. It's just a picture of Guts to represent Berserk as a series. it's actually from when Guts fights the giant sea cucumber a few episodes ago.

Also, it's episode, not chapter. You should all know this by now.
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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2010, 08:29:10 PM »
Oh, sweet!

The one-shot is pretty cool, is that the whole thing or does it have more panels?

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2010, 08:35:18 PM »
The one-shot is pretty cool, is that the whole thing or does it have more panels?

No idea. There might be a few more pages but I doubt it's very long.

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2010, 09:25:18 PM »
About...effing...time... :guts:

Seriously with all these long breaks you'd think he'd have a ton of material set up for some serious uninterrupted story progress.  But I'm willing to easily bet that's not the case as a break will probably happen late fall or early winter...again :judo:

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2010, 09:30:14 PM »
I wonder if Puck will make a comment referring to this bill in one of the next episodes  :puck:

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2010, 07:42:15 AM »
In other news, YA removed the "Preview" button from the Official Corner a few hours ago. It would be a tragic loss if the last preview they put up hadn't been for episode 297 (2 years ago).

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2010, 01:45:30 PM »
In other news, YA removed the "Preview" button from the Official Corner a few hours ago. It would be a tragic loss if the last preview they put up hadn't been for episode 297 (2 years ago).

Haha, about damn time. I used to check that every week that a new episode was coming out. Time wasted. :sad:

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2010, 09:05:06 PM »
FREAKIN Yeah!!!! I'm so excited.  I got so used to looking at 312 I had to double take to make sure 313 was actually the new episode...

What an uptight Bill.  They're not as cool as they used to be.
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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2010, 02:00:30 PM »
Darn, he was so close to breaking his 19-week break record. Oh well, I guess my consolation prize is a new issue of Berserk :D

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2010, 10:56:43 AM »
Somewhat off topic, but the bill was rejected.

http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/news/20100614-OYT1T00913.htm

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Re: Episode 313
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2010, 02:02:28 PM »