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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #125 on: April 12, 2011, 10:15:21 PM »
You guys are all so obviously wrong..

The sea god is actually an automation & conglamorite of all the god hands. Its kind of like voltron. When Guts goes inside hes going to find them all in the sea gods dome piece operating its limbs manually through soft tissue manipulation.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #126 on: April 12, 2011, 11:27:38 PM »
You guys are all so obviously wrong..

The sea god is actually an automation & conglamorite of all the god hands. Its kind of like voltron. When Guts goes inside hes going to find them all in the sea gods dome piece operating its limbs manually through soft tissue manipulation.


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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #127 on: April 14, 2011, 06:06:45 AM »
You guys are all so obviously wrong..

The sea god is actually an automation & conglamorite of all the god hands. Its kind of like voltron. When Guts goes inside hes going to find them all in the sea gods dome piece operating its limbs manually through soft tissue manipulation.

See, I imagined the God Hand furiously toiling away at an army of knobs, levers and pulleys.  

There's one line I don't fully comprehend from Guts.  "It's convenient to be able to see clearly in the dark."  Is this an advantage of the armor, or because he is possessed by Schierke?

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #128 on: April 14, 2011, 08:07:20 AM »
There's one line I don't fully comprehend from Guts.  "It's convenient to be able to see clearly in the dark."  Is this an advantage of the armor, or because he is possessed by Schierke?

Good question, I think it's thanks to the armor.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #129 on: April 14, 2011, 04:04:40 PM »
Good question, I think it's thanks to the armor.

I've always thought so too. In addition to its already well known properties like utmost utilization of the entire reserves of physical and mental strength in the user's body, numbing of the pain and realigning the broken bones back into their place, I believe the Armor also heightens all of the five senses; the touching, smelling, hearing, eyesight and taste. I think that was mentioned in vol 26 or 27.  

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #130 on: April 14, 2011, 04:20:45 PM »
I believe the Armor also heightens all of the five senses; the touching, smelling, hearing, eyesight and taste. I think that was mentioned in vol 26 or 27.   
Really? I don't seem to remember that, and the burden of proof is on you to find that part in the manga. In Vol 26, Schierke says the armor pushes the human body beyond its limits, at the risk of its owner's life. But she's referring to how it puts pressure on muscle and bone to the point of abandon. SK mentions in vol 28 that with prolonged use, Guts will lose his senses of color, taste, etc. That's it.

As for Guts' enhanced vision he mentions, I think it's a combination of Schierke's enhancement, and possibly the unique vision Guts has when under the influence of the armor, as shown several times, particularly vols 28, 31 and 36. That being said, I do feel like I'm kind of missing something, because even that feels like guesswork.
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« Reply #131 on: April 14, 2011, 04:51:57 PM »
Given SK's words of warning and the previous times we saw the world through the armors eyes, i think it's more thanks to Schierke that Guts can see well in the dark.
Admittedly, we never saw how Guts perceived his surroundings as a "sane berserker", but in every other shot, all he saw was teeth and blurred shapes. If anything, his vision was worse.

Schierke on the other hand is using her astral body to fuse with Guts. She was able to see deeper into the spiritual world before using it, so she might be less dependant on light in this scenario.

However, we never had any hint of a shared perception between Guts and Schierke, and they seem to be able to both focus on different things.

One more reason to look forward to more of their teamwork, I guess :guts:

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #132 on: April 14, 2011, 04:58:33 PM »
However, we never had any hint of a shared perception between Guts and Schierke, and they seem to be able to both focus on different things.

Actually, we did in Episode 270; Schierke sees what Guts sees as the berserk though she's still sane, and even has to squint to what Daiba truly looked like. I don't know exactly what that means to their current experience, but it definitely seems like a two-way street. Anyway, I assume she still sees what Guts' sees, and anything beyond that would take an extra effort on her part.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #133 on: April 14, 2011, 11:24:17 PM »
I believe the Armor also heightens all of the five senses; the touching, smelling, hearing, eyesight and taste. I think that was mentioned in vol 26 or 27.   
I believe maybe you misunderstood. The armor dulls the human senses after using it for a long time. It was revealed when Skully warned Guts in volume 28. We've seen his hands shaking, him looking at Serpico's stew strangely, his vision fading while looking at Casca on the boat... We haven't seen him smell or hear differently yet, but hey.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #134 on: April 14, 2011, 11:41:33 PM »
I agree with (most) of you.  Judging from what we know about the armor dulling the senses, I would assume it has something to do with the connection Guts is sharing with Schierke.  That was my initial response.  Maybe we'll learn more about this newfound ability in upcoming episodes.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #135 on: April 15, 2011, 04:45:41 AM »
Judging from what we know about the armor dulling the senses, I would assume it has something to do with the connection Guts is sharing with Schierke. 

If I'm not wrong, I don't think Schierke has anything to do with Guts losing his senses but more the work of the armor. If you meant that in a way that Schierke is helping Guts seeing more clear while using the armor forgot what I just said above!  :slan:

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #136 on: April 15, 2011, 05:14:30 PM »
I think Miura would depict the scene differently if Guts' night vision was related to Schierke. It's true she's helping him stay in control of himself by clearing his vision of the armor's "fluid" right now, but it doesn't mean she's bestowing him some special power.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #137 on: April 15, 2011, 06:13:42 PM »
If I'm not wrong, I don't think Schierke has anything to do with Guts losing his senses but more the work of the armor. If you meant that in a way that Schierke is helping Guts seeing more clear while using the armor forgot what I just said above!  :slan:

Whoops, yeah, I was referring to Schierke being the one helping Guts.  

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #138 on: April 15, 2011, 06:19:45 PM »
I think Miura would depict the scene differently if Guts' night vision was related to Schierke. It's true she's helping him stay in control of himself by clearing his vision of the armor's "fluid" right now, but it doesn't mean she's bestowing him some special power.

I agree. I think Guts could see perfectly fine in the dark whether Schierke was there or not, I just don't think he'd be as conscious of it if she were absent.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #139 on: April 15, 2011, 06:45:30 PM »
Given SK's words of warning

Irrelevant.

the previous times we saw the world through the armors eyes

His perception of things was distorted, but he was always able to "see" his enemies, even in the dark.

I agree. I think Guts could see perfectly fine in the dark whether Schierke was there or not, I just don't think he'd be as conscious of it if she were absent.

Yeah.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2011, 12:15:57 AM »
It seems everyone think this big mouth is not simple. In his mouth like a space, This is why many people say god hand was hiding inside?

It is impossible and very absurd. I prefer to believe that big mouth is a distortion of space, May change something or someone.

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2011, 12:46:41 AM »
It seems everyone think this big mouth is not simple. In his mouth like a space, This is why many people say god hand was hiding inside?

It is impossible and very absurd. I prefer to believe that big mouth is a distortion of space, May change something or someone.


I agree, but I don't remember "many" people guessing there would be a God Hand inside the Sea God.  I think a select few might have come to the conclusion because of the odd texture inside his mouth which resembles the astral realm, and also Guts mentioning how the area felt similar to Qliphoth, along with some other conclusions which didn't make much sense.
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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #142 on: April 18, 2011, 06:57:44 AM »
It seems everyone think this big mouth is not simple. In his mouth like a space, This is why many people say god hand was hiding inside?
Don't misconstrue things. A member of the God Hand appearing inside the Sea God was not the general consensus of the thread. One person wondered if that would happen, and one other guy convinced himself that it would happen, based on some shoddy reasoning. And no, not everyone thinks the mouth is more than it seems. I, for one, believe that inside will be the insides of the Sea God, not a portal to the astral world. Why? Because the astral world and physical worlds just merged...

Really though, it's fruitless to make blind guesses about things like this. The answer will present itself sometime this week, as the ep is due by Friday.
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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #143 on: April 18, 2011, 07:53:15 AM »
I, for one, believe that inside will be the insides of the Sea God, not a portal to the astral world.

But with the Sea God being a powerful astral creature, in a way, its gigantic insides could be considered a part of the astral world! :carcus:

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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #144 on: April 18, 2011, 06:53:46 PM »
Im sorry about the confusing concerning the God Hand speculation. It was complete and utter speculation and im not sure when it started being taken seriously. I threw it out there as a question orignally, and than I emphasized the "if a God Hand WAS to show up..." to further show it was just a shot in the dark. Sorry about that .....
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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #145 on: April 18, 2011, 07:15:51 PM »
Im sorry about the confusing concerning the God Hand speculation. It was complete and utter speculation and im not sure when it started being taken seriously. I threw it out there as a question orignally, and than I emphasized the "if a God Hand WAS to show up..." to further show it was just a shot in the dark. Sorry about that .....
I understood your statement. It was ZODDOII that was confused about your meaning, apparently.
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« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2011, 05:34:17 AM »
We won't see a member of the God Hand inside that thing's stomach...but perhaps after he defeats it, we may not be let down after all!

Guts has referenced the mouth of hell or the first level of hell, on more than one occasion. It makes sense that along with this Sea God is an entrance to the astral realm..or hell...kinda like the aforementioned Qliphoth was.

Aww hell yeah. Guts is gunna go super crazy berserk killing a God Hand or trying to, while doing irreparable damage to his own body in the process. He has to fail. It will be epic.
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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2011, 06:35:17 AM »
Guts is gunna go super crazy berserk killing a God Hand or trying to, while doing irreparable damage to his own body in the process. He has to fail. It will be epic.
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Re: Episode 319
« Reply #148 on: April 19, 2011, 11:17:32 AM »
I agree, but I don't remember "many" people guessing there would be a God Hand inside the Sea God.  I think a select few might have come to the conclusion because of the odd texture inside his mouth which resembles the astral realm, and also Guts mentioning how the area felt similar to Qliphoth, along with some other conclusions which didn't make much sense.

Sorry, I was wrong,Not many people, is part of people put forward.

Our point of view is similar, and (astral realm) I really like this word, If that is true,That must be very spectacular.

Don't misconstrue things. A member of the God Hand appearing inside the Sea God was not the general consensus of the thread. One person wondered if that would happen, and one other guy convinced himself that it would happen, based on some shoddy reasoning. And no, not everyone thinks the mouth is more than it seems. I, for one, believe that inside will be the insides of the Sea God, not a portal to the astral world. Why? Because the astral world and physical worlds just merged...

Really though, it's fruitless to make blind guesses about things like this. The answer will present itself sometime this week, as the ep is due by Friday.

Yes, now I see,thanks for your explanation.

I understand your meaning, two worlds close tow for one. Does not exist different space.

It's also reasonable

But with the Sea God being a powerful astral creature, in a way, its gigantic insides could be considered a part of the astral world! :carcus:

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