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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #100 on: April 20, 2012, 11:36:27 PM »

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« Reply #101 on: April 24, 2012, 12:53:59 AM »
Cinemacon 2012

Here's Prometheus' schedule for the event:

"Thursday, April 26 / 10:30 AM – 12:00 PM / Location: The Colosseum-Casino Level

Twentieth Century Fox Invites You to a Special Presentation Highlighting its 2012 release schedule"

Source: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/171

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #102 on: April 24, 2012, 12:58:04 PM »
Choose to or not to read the spoilers below off a RC interview -

Prometheus origins and evolution from Alien

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PROMETHEUS ORIGINS AND EVOLUTION – Sir Ridley Scott, the renowned filmmaker who reinvented the science fiction film genre – having helmed Alien, a groundbreaking mix of science fiction and horror, followed by Blade Runner, one of the most revered and influential genre films of our time – offers his signature brand of action, thrills, scares, and much, much more, when Prometheus is unleashed in theaters worldwide this June.

With Prometheus, Scott has created a new mythology, in which a team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth, leading them on a thrilling journey, aboard the spaceship Prometheus, to the darkest corners of the universe. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race.

Although he has not helmed a science fiction picture in three decades, Ridley Scott’s interest in the genre never abated.  Having made two of the most revered genre films of all time, his return would only be triggered by a truly grand idea.  “Over the past few decades, we’ve been ‘action filmed-out’ and ‘monster filmed-out’ and almost ‘science fiction filmed-out,” says Scott. “So the baseline question is: how original are you going to be?”

“The reason I haven’t made another sci-fi film in so many years, apart from the fact I’ve been busy making other films and exploring different genres, is because frankly I haven’t come across anything worthwhile for me to do with enough truth, originality and strength.  Prometheus has all three.”

The notion for Prometheus began with a figure glimpsed only briefly in Alien, and which seemed to be forgotten once the titular xenomorph burst, literally, onto the scene.  But that mysterious being – a giant fossilized creature with a burst-open chest, which came to be known as the Space Jockey – was well remembered by the man who brought it to life.  “Something that had stayed with me ever since Alien, was the mystery behind it,” says Scott.  Who was he?  Where was he from?   What was his mission? What kind of technology would his kind possess?  I thought those questions could provide a springboard for even larger ideas.”

So, yes, Prometheus began life years ago as an Alien prequel before evolving, as Scott puts it, “into another universe.”  The film is engaged and defined by new ideas and questions that captured the filmmaker’s formidable imagination.  Notes Scott: “Out of the creative process in developing the picture emerged a new, grand mythology, in which this original story takes place.  The keen fan will recognize strands of Alien’s DNA, so to speak, but the ideas tackled in this film are unique, far-reaching and provocative.  Prometheus is the singular genre tale I’d been searching for.”

Adds co-screenwriter Jon Spaihts:  “The most difficult thing about writing this story was that nothing was given.  Everything had to be invented.  In creating an entire world with Ridley Scott, I had an enormous canvas to paint on.” And co-screenwriter/executive producer Damon Lindelof says that he was “incredibly struck by just how original Ridley’s vision was for this movie. It’s daring, visceral and hopefully, the last thing anyone expects.”

As the script was developed, the story’s big ideas emerged:  During a journey to meet what some of the scientist crew believe to be their “makers” – beings who may have created life on our planet – the crew of the spaceship Prometheus and the mega-corporation funding its trillion-dollar mission, are in effect challenging the gods. And, as experienced by the Greek mythological figure from which the ship takes its name, challenging the gods can be a very, very bad idea.

“The film’s central metaphor is about the Greek Titan Prometheus, who defies the gods by giving humans the gift of fire, for which he is horribly punished,” Scott explains.  “When you talk about the myth on which the title is based, you’re dealing with humankind’s relationship with the gods – the beings who created us – and what happens when we defy them.”

But ultimately, notes Lindelof, Prometheus is centered around… us.  “It’s about humanity in the future, challenging some of our most cherished scientific and philosophic ideas.”

The team of scientists and explorers aboard the Prometheus are on nothing less than a journey to discover answers to some of life’s most profound questions.  Two brilliant young scientists, Shaw (Noomi Rapace) and Holloway (Logan Marshall-Green) possessing contrasting motivations, lead the expedition.  Shaw is a believer: she wants to meet these “gods” as a way of getting closer to her more traditional religious views, while Holloway is looking to debunk these kinds of spiritual notions.  In their work as archeologists, they have discovered clues in cave pictograms from ancient civilizations across the world, all of which point to the same location in distant space, and have persuaded a corporation, Weyland Industries, to fund the mission.

Neither scientist was prepared for the unimaginable terrors they would encounter. “When Shaw and Holloway conceived the mission, their expectation was they would discover a benevolent species that might provide answers to some of our greatest mysteries,” says executive producer Michael Ellenberg.  “In other words they were hoping to meet gods.  But these beings prove to be anything but compassionate.  They are a dangerous race of superbeings.”

“The crew of the Prometheus thinks they’re headed to paradise to discover answers to the ultimate questions.  But what they find is a dark and twisted and frightening world – a way station for these beings,” adds Jon Spaihts.  “The cold and implacable environment is more like hell than heaven.”

In Ridley Scott’s films, including Prometheus, the protagonists’ discoveries often defy expectations.  “That’s what makes good drama,” states the filmmaker.  “Our story circles the truth of what might be out there and therein lays its most frightening aspect.  Feasibility always creates the finest and most dangerous drama and the opportunity for me to scare the hell out of everyone.”

On the planet, the team meets a survivor of a civilization in control of some very dangerous elements, including various forms of biology and biomechanics, which in a heartbeat can eviscerate its victim, or worse.  “This brings us to the question,” says Scott, “what are the consequences of meeting a superior being, whose capabilities are quantum leaps beyond one’s own, and are in effect god-like?”

Or put another way:  Maybe there are some things best left unexplored.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2012, 09:36:05 AM »
Prometheus Featurette * New Footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYej64A3tA

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Prometheus Trailer 2 [4/29/12]

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Prometheus will be rated R according to FOX CEO, Tom Rothman in a recent MTV interview. This is an incredible sign of relief to most fan boys - as many were getting discouraged that the film may hold a PG-13 rating.

"Not one frame of Prometheus will be cut."
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"If that means it’s an R rating, so be it."
- Tom Rothman, Fox CEO

You all can rest easy Prometheus fans. No cuts and a solid R - a good day for any hard core Alien fan.

Source: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/176

* Thank God
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #104 on: April 27, 2012, 01:34:15 AM »
Prometheus Featurette * New Footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYej64A3tA

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Prometheus Trailer 2 [4/29/12]

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Prometheus will be rated R according to FOX CEO, Tom Rothman in a recent MTV interview. This is an incredible sign of relief to most fan boys - as many were getting discouraged that the film may hold a PG-13 rating.

"Not one frame of Prometheus will be cut."
...
"If that means it’s an R rating, so be it."
- Tom Rothman, Fox CEO

You all can rest easy Prometheus fans. No cuts and a solid R - a good day for any hard core Alien fan.

Source: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/176

* Thank God

Rothman didn't say it was Rated R. He said that the film would not be edited or cut in any way to change the rating.
So, if the MPAA says R, it'll be R.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #105 on: April 27, 2012, 02:19:02 AM »
And the cut of Prometheus to be shown June.8.2012 will be rated PG-13.
You will see the R-Rated cut on DVD/Blu-Ray sometime in 2013.

Source: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/168
Prometheus will be rated R according to FOX CEO, Tom Rothman in a recent MTV interview. This is an incredible sign of relief to most fan boys - as many were getting discouraged that the film may hold a PG-13 rating.

"Not one frame of Prometheus will be cut."
...
"If that means it’s an R rating, so be it."
- Tom Rothman, Fox CEO

You all can rest easy Prometheus fans. No cuts and a solid R - a good day for any hard core Alien fan.

Source: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/news/176

* Thank God

Let's just wait for the MPAA to rate it. I mean, it's one thing to anticipate to the film with bated breath, but anticipating the MPAA rating is a bit much.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #106 on: April 29, 2012, 08:23:13 PM »
Prometheus International Launch Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byZkbNB3Jw&feature=youtu.be

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Prometheus : Original Soundtrack


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Re: Prometheus
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #108 on: April 29, 2012, 08:51:42 PM »
It reveals a lot more than the last set of trailers. I'd recommend not seeing it!
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #109 on: April 29, 2012, 09:25:06 PM »
I'd recommend not seeing it!
I totally agree, i wish i hadn't.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #110 on: April 30, 2012, 06:10:41 AM »
It reveals a lot more than the last set of trailers.

Man, you aren't joking.  I don't care about spoilers at all, and even I had a "wow, they're revealing a lot" moment while I was watching it.

One of the top comments hit my funny bone though.  "I'm throwing money at the screen and nothing is happening!"  Indeed.   :ganishka:

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #111 on: April 30, 2012, 10:52:06 AM »
I don't know why they felt the need to make a near 3 minute trailer anyways. The previous trailer was around 2 minutes and was plenty revealing enough.

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« Reply #112 on: April 30, 2012, 11:07:41 AM »
I don't know why they felt the need to make a near 3 minute trailer anyways. The previous trailer was around 2 minutes and was plenty revealing enough.

Clearly, it was because the movie was so damned good that they just HAD to share it with the rest of the world. :carcus:

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #113 on: April 30, 2012, 01:04:23 PM »
I find it interesting, and a little sad, that a lot of people still don't know what this movie is about. I was at lunch with a colleague and his friend, and was saying how a new Alien movie was coming out. The guy said: "What, Alien 5? *snicker*" "No it's called Prometheus, and it's supposed to be set before Alien." "What?! I had no idea!"

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #114 on: April 30, 2012, 01:43:13 PM »
I'd be surprised if it was still a PG-13. Maybe that's why they have a longer trailer to try and entice more people to come watch it if it's going to be an R. Maybe. Then again, they'll have to make their money before TDKR comes out a few weeks later. There're a few theories I can think of with the direction that story might take ...

That's sad Walter ... Alien Fans UNITE! (watched a lot of The Avengers last night and they keep saying "Avengers UNITE!" before a battle)
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #115 on: April 30, 2012, 02:40:25 PM »
No from what I've heard re-guardless what the MPAA decides as far as the rating goes the film will screen uncut.



There is a link for the HD release of the International Launch Trailer below... If you don't want to check it out don't I'm just handing out options here as there is new footage in the 2nd cut of the Launch Trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vep18CsW5T0&feature=player_embedded

So whose pre-ordered the Soundtrack?

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Thx to who ever modified the post for me my browser was acting up.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #116 on: April 30, 2012, 05:29:52 PM »
I find it interesting, and a little sad, that a lot of people still don't know what this movie is about. I was at lunch with a colleague and his friend, and was saying how a new Alien movie was coming out. The guy said: "What, Alien 5? *snicker*" "No it's called Prometheus, and it's supposed to be set before Alien." "What?! I had no idea!"

At least he didn't just say, "Who cares?" Because that was my first thought at the significance of it being an Alien prequel. :iva:

I mean, it's not like this is the mythical Alien prequel everyone was demanding, because nobody was demanding an Alien prequel (but were in fact disgusted by the concept). Including the filmmakers apparently, since they actively distanced it from the Alien franchise and started selling it as more of a related story set in the same world than an "Alien movie." This, not coincidentally, is also when everyone got excited about it, when it dropped the "Alien" and became sort of a pseudo stand alone film (from the trailer it's obviously directly related to Alien though, so technically a prequel by any name). So, best case scenario is that it's great and the argument can be made that it's the true spiritual successor and legitimate counterpart to Ridley Scott's Alien, a relationship that's canon transcends the rest of Alien franchise, good (Aliens) and bad (everything else). Or, that's a check it can't cash and it really is just an Alien movie by another name; the successor to what was going to be Alien 5, which became Alien prequels in 3D, which thankfully, became Prometheus.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #117 on: April 30, 2012, 05:47:00 PM »
So, best case scenario is that it's great and the argument can be made that it's the true spiritual successor and legitimate counterpart to Ridley Scott's Alien, a relationship that's canon transcends the rest of Alien franchise, good (Aliens) and bad (everything else).
I believe it's the first part of that statement and as far as my understanding is, this is a direct prequel to Alien (in RC's own words it answers basic questions - who are the space jockey's you see in Alien, where did they come from, what's up with that). Through interviews of RC, he also leads us to understand that between the end of Prometheus and the beginning of Alien, there is a gap of 2/4 years and he's interested in looking to fill that gap with another movie, if possible.
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« Reply #118 on: April 30, 2012, 06:01:59 PM »
At least he didn't just say, "Who cares?" Because that was my first thought at the significance of it being an Alien prequel. :iva:

I mean, it's not like this is the mythical Alien prequel everyone was demanding, because nobody was demanding an Alien prequel (but were in fact disgusted by the concept).
All I meant by my statement was that I get the impression the general public doesn't know that this is an Alien movie, regardless of whatever mealy mouthed things were said during the production and marketing side of this. And I wonder if that's going to hurt its shot at the box office.

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Including the filmmakers apparently, since they actively distanced it from the Alien franchise and started selling it as more of a related story set in the same world than an "Alien movie." This, not coincidentally, is also when everyone got excited about it, when it dropped the "Alien" and became sort of a pseudo stand alone film (from the trailer it's obviously directly related to Alien though, so technically a prequel by any name).
"Uhhh, well it's not REALLY an Alien movie... I mean sure, it's addressing some of the central lore about the series, and will have the same setting and technically be in the same universe BUUUUT.... ya know, it's it's own thing! REALLY!"  :schierke:

I've only seen one trailer, and it was early, but it's tied inexorably to Alien, Xenomorphs or not. I don't even see the point of them trying to distance it from the franchise, other than a weak attempt to manipulate expectations.

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So, best case scenario is that it's great and the argument can be made that it's the true spiritual successor and legitimate counterpart to Ridley Scott's Alien, a relationship that's canon transcends the rest of Alien franchise, good (Aliens) and bad (everything else). Or, that's a check it can't cash and it really is just an Alien movie by another name; the successor to what was going to be Alien 5, which became Alien prequels in 3D, which thankfully, became Prometheus.
My expectations are already pretty low. And that's exactly where I want them to be. Honestly, I think Scott lost his touch years ago (in the 80s). But I can't deny that I'm a little excited to see what he does with a return to the franchise (well).

...re-guardless

So whose pre-ordered the Soundtrack?

loling  :ganishka:

PS: I guess we should probably have an Alien talk on the next podcast...
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #119 on: April 30, 2012, 06:15:00 PM »
Alien talk would be great! Would you want to do that after you've watched Prometheus though ... so you can talk about them both!? ^_^

For me, one of the biggest things was the technology used in Prometheus - hoping it's the same as what we see in Alien.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #120 on: April 30, 2012, 06:28:15 PM »
I believe it's the first part of that statement and as far as my understanding is, this is a direct prequel to Alien (in RC's own words it answers basic questions - who are the space jockey's you see in Alien, where did they come from, what's up with that). Through interviews of RC, he also leads us to understand that between the end of Prometheus and the beginning of Alien, there is a gap of 2/4 years and he's interested in looking to fill that gap with another movie, if possible.

Yikes! In that case it sounds like just another franchise reboot. So much for my beautiful bookends theory. =)

All I meant by my statement was that I get the impression the general public doesn't know that this is an Alien movie, regardless of whatever mealy mouthed things were said during the production and marketing side of this. And I wonder if that's going to hurt its shot at the box office.


"Uhhh, well it's not REALLY an Alien movie... I mean sure, it's addressing some of the central lore about the series, and will have the same setting and technically be in the same universe BUUUUT.... ya know, it's it's own thing! REALLY!"  :schierke:

I've only seen one trailer, and it was early, but it's tied inexorably to Alien, Xenomorphs or not. I don't even see the point of them trying to distance it from the franchise, other than a weak attempt to manipulate expectations.

Agreed on all points. The film's appeal and the anticipation/goodwill surrounding it comes paradoxically from its Alien roots and the fact that it's somewhat distanced from its Alien roots. Remember how reviled this project was when it was going to be back to back Alien 3D prequels? From what Incantation just said, maybe the only thing they dropped is the 3D. :ganishka:

Anyway, I don't blame them for wanting it both ways, it's a calculated risk, and we'll find out at the box office if the credibility it's gained is worth losing brand recognition. It's certainly better for it as a movie though.

My expectations are already pretty low. And that's exactly where I want them to be.

Same here, I'm really of down on it actually, to the point of malaise about seeing it. Just expecting to be disappointed.

Honestly, I think Scott lost his touch years ago (in the 80s). But I can't deny that I'm a little excited to see what he does with a return to the franchise (well).

Alien - Episode I: The Promethean Menace! :troll:

PS: I guess we should probably have an Alien talk on the next podcast...

I was thinking the same thing, actually. :guts:

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #121 on: April 30, 2012, 06:55:33 PM »
I believe it's the first part of that statement and as far as my understanding is, this is a direct prequel to Alien (in RC's own words it answers basic questions - who are the space jockey's you see in Alien, where did they come from, what's up with that). Through interviews of RC, he also leads us to understand that between the end of Prometheus and the beginning of Alien, there is a gap of 2/4 years and he's interested in looking to fill that gap with another movie, if possible.

I believe Ridley explains what you are talking about in this video at 15:48:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr0rb_9fqB4

Paraphrasing here, if you don't want to watch the video, he says that the kinship between Alien and Prometheus becomes evident in the last 8 minutes of the film. The space jockey history was the fuse for the project, but the movie evolved into something else entirely.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #122 on: April 30, 2012, 07:05:40 PM »
And I believe the same thing to a point is covered here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzTY_o44qcg&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #123 on: April 30, 2012, 07:31:40 PM »
I think the promise of this big reveal is precisely what has me thinking it's going to end with an incredulous, "That was it?" Those quotes sound like a description of a M. Night Shamalamadingdong movie. =)

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #124 on: April 30, 2012, 07:42:26 PM »
I think the beauty of it is that right now everyone has there own working theories about what Prometheus is or isn't.