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Offline Salem

Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #100 on: December 04, 2014, 04:03:08 PM »
Denying racism exists is a rare finding in my life.  Over exemplified corrupt police departments murdering kids is just that.  It isn't this wide spread hysteria, but what would I know?  I live in a quarter million populace with 1 or 2 murders a year.  Guess I'm sick of this fairy tale nonsense where people can't get along.  Its so foreign here.  Wilson got off because there was no physical evidence prese ted against him.  There are hate crimes but that shit ain't one.

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #101 on: December 04, 2014, 04:33:57 PM »
Denying racism exists is a rare finding in my life.  Over exemplified corrupt police departments murdering kids is just that.

Clearly a large segment of the population feels differently, and the denial is usually on a case by case basis that looks more ridiculous when the pattern on the whole is examined. Anyway, I don't think we have to agree with people that see racism in all these cases, but I think it should be recognized that there are reasons they do and we should investigate that rather than dismissing their point of view and saying, "This is how it is." Especially when we have no earthly idea really. Anyway, there doesn't have to be a hate crime for race to be a pervasive factor in these incidents and the failure to prosecute them.

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #102 on: December 04, 2014, 04:35:42 PM »
I agree with you.  I'm sorry I missed your Garner reference.   That was truly evil.  I seriously thought it was a joke at first when I saw it.  I honestly thought it was because it got no attention vs. The officer wilson incident. 

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #103 on: December 04, 2014, 04:50:50 PM »
Yeah, that's really the one to watch going forward.

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« Reply #104 on: December 04, 2014, 04:58:35 PM »
Funny thing is I saw nothing of that until I just looked it up.  This Ferguson scene has a left a sour taste in my mouth.  Now if it wasn't for skullknight.net and my very sketchy viewing of the news I would have never known.   :mozgus: Now I'm pissed.  Thats some flucking nonsense right there.

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #105 on: February 21, 2015, 06:10:27 PM »
People who make death/rape threats are very bizarre:
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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #106 on: February 21, 2015, 07:39:20 PM »
That's an obvious troll, dude.
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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #107 on: February 21, 2015, 08:59:25 PM »
How do you know when a threat comes from a troll vs an ideologue? Hypocrisy? I can't tell anymore. I don't know what goes through the minds of these people.





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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #108 on: February 26, 2015, 06:13:23 PM »
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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #109 on: March 03, 2015, 07:43:56 PM »
At the end of time, a moment will come when just one man remains. Then the moment will pass. Man will be gone. There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust.

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« Reply #110 on: March 12, 2015, 05:48:35 PM »
At the end of time, a moment will come when just one man remains. Then the moment will pass. Man will be gone. There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust.

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #111 on: March 31, 2015, 02:52:36 AM »
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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #112 on: March 31, 2015, 06:36:04 AM »
Japan's vision of America in Streets of Rage 2 comes to life!

http://archive.azcentral.com/community/tempe/articles/20121026tempe-phoenix-light-rail-samurai-swordsman-interview.html

God, and he calls himself "Kairo Seijuro". What a good time to be alive! :ganishka:

Offline Groovy Metal Fist

Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #113 on: June 03, 2015, 08:47:34 PM »
Let's Player Total Biscuit reads a Polygon article verbatim in the way it deserves to be read:https://soundcloud.com/totalbiscuit/masterpiece-theatre-presents-games-journalism

Fuck Polygon.

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #114 on: June 03, 2015, 09:33:01 PM »
It's a stupid article, but this objection seems to go against what most gamers seem to have been asking from the games press for some time: To stop being tools for marketers.

If an event fails to grab a reporter's attention, that reporter should be allowed to report that they are failing to grab him with the title and the event. This happens in all other media coverage. Just apparently not coverage directed at teenagers.

Should he have diligently reported exactly what he was supposed to report having attended a press event paid for by Harmonix? I don't think anyone would agree with that -- except marketers of course. While he's not offering a valuable perspective, I don't disagree with the principle behind his article. Part of supporting the power of the press is not suffocating them when they step out of the bounds of normal reporting.

Also, Total Biscuit is a total tool, deserving none of his popularity. Here's a great example of his character:  He used his PR guy to silence Shawn Elliott (formerly of CGW, and a Bioshock developer) from expressing his opinion about the guy by going straight to his boss. An adult tale of tattle-tale.

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #115 on: June 03, 2015, 09:41:47 PM »
Also, Total Biscuit is a total tool, deserving none of his popularity.

I disagree with the latter since popularity is often dictated by the lowest common denominator, but yeah, a discerning individual need only see and hear him to wonder, "What's the appeal, exactly?"

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #116 on: June 03, 2015, 10:34:04 PM »
I think that's one of the better Polygon articles I've read, actually.

Offline Groovy Metal Fist

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« Reply #117 on: June 04, 2015, 02:29:11 AM »
It's a stupid article, but this objection seems to go against what most gamers seem to have been asking from the games press for some time: To stop being tools for marketers.

If an event fails to grab a reporter's attention, that reporter should be allowed to report that they are failing to grab him with the title and the event. This happens in all other media coverage. Just apparently not coverage directed at teenagers.

Should he have diligently reported exactly what he was supposed to report having attended a press event paid for by Harmonix? I don't think anyone would agree with that -- except marketers of course. While he's not offering a valuable perspective, I don't disagree with the principle behind his article. Part of supporting the power of the press is not suffocating them when they step out of the bounds of normal reporting.

I agree that the article is stupid and that he's not offering a valuable perspective, which is why I object to it. Being a PR mouthpiece or having a "Oh this art form is beneath me, a scholar of politics in the Philippines" attitude are not his only 2 options. I want columnists who use their experience and access to help gamers make an informed decision about what's worth time and money and hold these games up to scrutiny.

but yeah, a discerning individual need only see and hear him to wonder, "What's the appeal, exactly?"

I feel the exact same way about the Gawker network  :guts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-avakrRUaU (stalking)
https://archive.is/QpH9k (promoting domestic violence)
https://archive.is/8qPKg+https://archive.is/oOli9 (undisclosed conflict of interest)

And publishing stolen nude photos of women, which I don't want to link to.

Hell, even Gawker thinks nothing of its audience:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0jXDETIQAEs8Sm.jpg:large

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #118 on: June 04, 2015, 02:56:25 AM »
Being a PR mouthpiece or having a "Oh this art form is beneath me, a scholar of politics in the Philippines" attitude are not his only 2 options.

It sounds more like you'd prefer games writers to stick to a script or formula of what's acceptable. Well, thankfully the industry is large enough to afford thousands of perspectives on how the news is spread. And yet it mostly boils down to one narrative: The one being offered by those paying for these events.

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I want columnists who use their experience and access to help gamers make an informed decision about what's worth time and money and hold these games up to scrutiny.

Personally I'd prefer to have more than a buyer's guide to my games coverage. But, that is what he did. Rock Band isn't for him, and this new revival did nothing to change his perspective. Ergo, if you liked the franchise previously, then you likely will again. And if not, then don't expect much of a change. This new game is proficient but not enthralling. That message is pretty implicit in the story.
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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #119 on: June 04, 2015, 03:14:15 AM »
It sounds more like you'd prefer games writers to stick to a script or formula of what's acceptable. Well, thankfully the industry is large enough to afford thousands of perspectives on how the news is spread.

If there is a new and valuable way to spread information, I would be interested in seeing it.

Personally I'd prefer to have more than a buyer's guide to my games coverage.

I do like articles and videos talking about video games as an evolving art form and opinion pieces on the industry. Extra Credits and the Jimquisition, which I don't agree with on a number of issues, as well as articles from game designer Adrian Chmierlarz, are worth looking at from time to time. I think both buyer's guide style reviews and these types of series have a place in games coverage.

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Re: It Came From The Internet
« Reply #120 on: June 04, 2015, 04:06:11 AM »
I feel the exact same way about the Gawker network  :guts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-avakrRUaU (stalking)
https://archive.is/QpH9k (promoting domestic violence)
https://archive.is/8qPKg+https://archive.is/oOli9 (undisclosed conflict of interest)

And publishing stolen nude photos of women, which I don't want to link to.

Hell, even Gawker thinks nothing of its audience:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0jXDETIQAEs8Sm.jpg:large

Oh, I see. Sorry, I didn't even realize you were the one championing Total Biscuit. Nothing personal, I was just responding to Walter because I'd seen Total Biscuit before and was unimpressed (for all I know, you were the one who introduced me).

Anyway, you're mistaking me for someone that identifies with or cares about media entertainment sites as much as you do, "Fuck Polygon" indeed. I'd go to bat for SK.net, but that's about it. Also, equating one youtube personality to a large online media network of hundreds of writers and contributors of various styles and content is disengenuous on its face, and unless you're kidding those cherry picked examples are even worse (unless you're genuinely concerned about the epidemic of female on male domestic violence or what Jimmy Kimmel thinks). Plus, you forgot one of my favorites: http://gawker.com/how-we-got-rolled-by-the-dishonest-fascists-of-gamergat-1649496579

If gamergate accomplishes nothing else besides setting gamers back socially 20 years, it'll always have this. I like a little chaos, and demonstrations of mob power; angry people banding together to strike at those purportedly wronging them. It's reassuring somehow, egalitarian, a check on authority, and a lot of Gawker media writers are indeed just as stupid and insufferable as the targets of their self-righteous snark, so it was just as satisfying to see them taken down a peg and get hit where it hurts. Though it's just as satisfying not to read those writers.

But I digress, my sincere plea to you is to find a better hill to die on. I just don't see the point in burning calories on this, but then some of your references and apparent passions bewilder me (seriously, you're not one of those guys boycotting Fury Road, are you? =)

Joking not completely aside, I hope we can find something to reconcile over like mutual skepicism of Fallout 4. Now there's a worthwhile cause!

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Re: It Came From The Internet
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« Reply #122 on: July 02, 2015, 12:17:28 PM »
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« Reply #123 on: July 28, 2015, 02:13:45 PM »
Found this little gem for sale.  Wonder if anyone responds?

http://lincoln.craigslist.org/jwl/5144734091.html

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« Reply #124 on: August 08, 2015, 02:44:52 PM »
Found this little gem for sale.  Wonder if anyone responds?

http://lincoln.craigslist.org/jwl/5144734091.html

Well, I guess craigslist is as good an avenue for causality as any.  :ganishka:

He really got into character! Maybe he missed his calling.  :carcus:
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