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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #225 on: June 18, 2014, 09:14:11 AM »
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« Reply #226 on: June 18, 2014, 09:47:53 AM »
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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #227 on: June 18, 2014, 10:28:16 AM »
That's... pretty wonky looking. I was really anticipating this cover too. :sad:

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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #228 on: June 18, 2014, 12:59:19 PM »
Courageous choice to go with that angle but I don't think the final result is much of a success. The comparison to the original color illustration just above makes it all the more painful.

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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #229 on: June 18, 2014, 01:43:04 PM »
Cool artwork, poor cover. Let's say it could have been more subtle and enigmatic.

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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #230 on: June 18, 2014, 01:51:11 PM »
I don't mind it. I like the first image more, but I'm fine with this one. Besides, it's what's inside that counts. :serpico:

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« Reply #231 on: June 18, 2014, 02:09:38 PM »
Agree with everyone about the cover. I do feel the coloring on the original illustration is more subtle (eyes, skin tone) in comparison to this one. I like the placement of the title in the middle, wide across and the font color for it, looks regal.

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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #232 on: June 18, 2014, 02:19:13 PM »
I think it was quite brave to NOT put Goura on the cover. I've been pretty vocal about this on the podcasts, but I think Goura's design and the episodes that feature it are the standout pieces of Gigantomakhia. It's of course fitting that the cover features Prome and Delos, given their quest and their relationship, but that's not necessarily the most marketable aspect of the series.

Also there's something off about the colors here. Miura generally (always) paints his covers. This one doesn't look painted, or if it is, it's hard to tell given the resolution. I wonder if this is his colorization or someone else's?

I expect that other color image of Prome will end up as a poster. If so, wonder what the reverse side will be..?
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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #233 on: June 18, 2014, 02:29:47 PM »
Also there's something off about the colors here. Miura generally (always) paints his covers. This one doesn't look painted, or if it is, it's hard to tell given the resolution. I wonder if this is his colorization or someone else's?

I'm pretty sure it's a painting, the colors are probably due to the image and not the work itself. If you'll remember, the preview of volume 35's cover had neon green tentacles on it, while the real deal was a lot more subdued. I don't expect any miracles, but the actual cover will probably be a bit more palatable.

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« Reply #234 on: June 18, 2014, 03:11:13 PM »
I think it was quite brave to NOT put Goura on the cover. I've been pretty vocal about this on the podcasts, but I think Goura's design and the episodes that feature it are the standout pieces of Gigantomakhia.

Agreed. Putting Prome alone on the cover would have been ''riskier'', way more subtle but less attractive when putting Goura would have been obviously attractive but would partially ruin the exposure.

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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #235 on: June 18, 2014, 03:27:19 PM »
I expect that other color image of Prome will end up as a poster. If so, wonder what the reverse side will be..?

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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #236 on: June 18, 2014, 03:29:11 PM »
Damn, you know, this cover runs into a lot of the same problems as Berserk's volume 36. Dynamic angle, but Delos just doesn't resemble himself. I can see what Miura's attempting to do, but it seems to age his characters prematurely. Prome looks pretty cute, though.

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« Reply #237 on: June 18, 2014, 05:48:55 PM »
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« Reply #238 on: June 18, 2014, 06:49:14 PM »
I actually quite like the cover. Prome looks more alien/android in this then the original. She also looks much older, maybe this is from the time when Delos first met her when she looked more like a woman? 

The only gripe i have is that Delos looks wayyy older but its a small nit-pick. I can't wait to get mine. :ubik:

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« Reply #239 on: June 19, 2014, 04:58:54 AM »
The way Delos is depicted on the tankobon cover art somehow reminds of the manner Guts was also  shown on the first volume cover of Berserk, which in of itself wasn't exactly the best of Berserk covers. You only see the head, and the cloak-covered shoulders. Nothing else. The rest of the body is absent altogether.

I expected the Gigantomakhia cover art to feature Delos and Prome. But I didn't think it would be something so drab and unimaginative. From Delos' goofy facial expression, to the overhead point of view of the two characters and the complete absence of background art... it's just wrong and is not contextually or stylistically representative of the great story contained within. In fact, if I was randomly shown that cover art without being told beforehand that it is Miura's work, I'd think that this must be some mediocre shonen manga by a no name author. I just refuse to believe that Miura himself would have come up with something so paltry looking  :sad:
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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #240 on: June 19, 2014, 06:42:36 AM »
The way Delos is depicted on the tankobon cover art in a way reminds of the way Guts was on the first volume of Berserk, which in of itself wasn't exactly the best of Berserk covers. You only see the head, and the cloak-covered shoulders. Nothing else. The rest of the body is absent altogether.
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I expected the Gigantomakhia cover art to feature Delos and Prome. But I didn't think it would be something so drab and unimaginative. From Delos' goofy facial expression, to the overhead point of view of the two characters and the complete absence of background art... it's just wrong and is not contextually or stylistically representative of the great story contained within. In fact, if I was randomly shown that cover art without being told beforehand that it is Miura's work, I'd think that this must be some mediocre shonen manga by a no name author. I just refuse to believe that Miura himself would have come up with something so paltry looking  :sad:
Ouch! To be fair, I think Miura still exercises his trademark skill in this cover, which might not be as obvious right now due to the lower resolution. The details in Prome's face, for example, are very delicate. I think that he was trying to do something different and it backfired a bit. It's too bad that it didn't work out, but I do like that he continues to experiment with the limits of his skill as an artist. I think that's a good sign. :griffnotevil:

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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #241 on: June 19, 2014, 01:32:25 PM »
Ouch! To be fair, I think Miura still exercises his trademark skill in this cover, which might not be as obvious right now due to the lower resolution. The details in Prome's face, for example, are very delicate. I think that he was trying to do something different and it backfired a bit. It's too bad that it didn't work out, but I do like that he continues to experiment with the limits of his skill as an artist. I think that's a good sign.

Yes, Miura's always been rather experimental with his covers, trying out different styles and such. And he often goes out of his comfort zone in general, especially when it comes to angles and perspective. I think Johnny Apples' criticism is overly harsh here and doesn't take the difficulty of that angle in consideration. Not that it excuses everything of course.

P.S. I like volume 1's cover. :iva:

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« Reply #242 on: June 20, 2014, 02:25:30 AM »
Ahahaha, well, not to say that I'm completely hating on the Gigantomakhia's cover art.



 On a positive side, at least the font size and the coloring scheme of the title's katakana rendition looks very good, and has an aura of classic old school action manga to it. That counts, right?  :ganishka: 
And I admit, it's a pretty neat visual angle trick, making both main characters on the cover appear as if they are looking up and ahead, all at the same time. If you were to ignore the rest of their bodies and just look at their heads, you might think that they're standing in front of you, rather than below you.
Plus, Prome is still cute as a button and her crystal-blue eyes are as mesmerizing as ever  :guts:
But Delos? On that cover, the poor guy's face hardly resembles how he originally looked in the manga. He appears much more cartoonish, and far less three dimensional here than he is in the manga. His head is very round and looks smaller than it's supposed to be, and combined with the weird facial expression and the way his eyes and facial features are shaped and sized, ironically enough, he's the one who ends up appearing more child-like. Again, this  doesn't look like Miura's work as we know and have come to expect of him.  Here, it's as if Delos has just been drawn by one of those Studio Gaga assistants guys, who are normally relegated to doing the backgrounds, and got no business whatsoever drawing anything forefront and center-stage.   
And I think this is what bothers me and many others about this particular cover. Miura, having mastered throughout his career all the ins and outs of his craft, he knows how to draw anything and everything, from video game covers to postcards. He could have easily come up with something far better than this, something exciting looking, a cover that is fluid, kinetic and maybe depicting intense fighting action. Like some of the Berserk tankobon covers from the past 10-15 years, for example. The Gigantomakhia appears not so much an "experimentation gone wrong" as it is an example of messing with the reliable (and decades-long perfected) formula that works. Even that inscribed Gigantomakhia art page below on the left, had Miura colored it, would have made for a better looking tankobon cover. 



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Re: Gigantomakhia—new 6-part scifi miniseries by Miura
« Reply #243 on: June 20, 2014, 04:20:25 AM »
But Delos? On that cover, the poor guy's face hardly resembles how he originally looked in the manga. He appears much more cartoonish, and far less three dimensional here than he is in the manga. His head is very round and looks smaller than it's supposed to be, and combined with the weird facial expression and the way his eyes and facial features are shaped and sized, ironically enough, he's the one who ends up appearing more child-like.

I completely disagree with what you're saying. If anything, Delos appears to be older on the cover than he does in the manga, and the style of the cover goes for a somewhat more "realistic" style too, or at least not a more cartoonish one.

And I think this is what bothers me and many others about this particular cover.

I don't believe you speak for anyone but yourself here.

Miura, having mastered throughout his career all the ins and outs of his craft, he knows how to draw anything and everything, from video game covers to postcards. He could have easily come up with something far better than this

Miura's done some less-than-perfect covers before, and as Grail mentioned this one is actually reminiscent of volume 36's. Stop making wild assumptions when you clearly have nothing to back up what you're saying. "Decades-long formula" for Berserk covers? There's no such thing.

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« Reply #244 on: July 28, 2014, 02:29:59 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7m0z5vLCo
official Trailer of Gigantomakhia


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« Reply #245 on: July 28, 2014, 03:12:14 AM »
nice one! thank you.  :guts:

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« Reply #246 on: July 28, 2014, 03:28:50 AM »
Young Animal's Facebook page showed the cover in a slightly different color - seen here.
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« Reply #247 on: July 28, 2014, 04:34:18 AM »


That color picture sure makes Prome look even more android-like.

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« Reply #248 on: July 28, 2014, 05:49:45 AM »
That Gigantomakhia trailer reminds me of some kind of Berserk alternative rock AMV. :magni:

Young Animal's Facebook page showed the cover in a slightly different color.

Hmm, is it some kind of special edition of the cover? I dont mind the green on the eyes and logo but the hair and dress seems a little too much unless its suppose to look different in person. Glow in the dark maybe? Having the logo and Prome's android-like eyes glowing in the dark staring at you, that'd be pretty neat. :isidro:

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« Reply #249 on: July 28, 2014, 11:45:31 AM »
Once again they refrain from showing off Goura. That's so insanely ballsy.
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