Jajimufu said:That quote from slan is the sole reason why I started this whole conversation about Guts using a beherit
The Warrior-Prophet said:The God Hand would presumably have less power over controlling the causal web of existence after the Blast. Material reality is the most objective layer of existence in which substance denies desire—you can stare at a door all day willing it to open but it won't budge. But the higher you go on the layers the more substance conforms to desire and the less objective reality is. So the God Hand would be more powerful in a micro sense, but they would be less powerful in a macro sense by having less power over all causality.
The Warrior-Prophet said:Sorry Walter, I'm not a mindreader—though that would be nice—and there is plenty of semantic content in what anyone communicates. Not sure specifically what 'that' you're referring to. Could you explicate a little bit more?
I view the God Hand and Idea of Evil as metonymies of one another...
whatever actions the God Hand take are indistinguishable from what the Idea of Evil wills, and whatever the Idea of Evil wills is indistinguishable from what the God Hand enacts
Jajimufu said:What if Guts uses a crimson/ regular beherit to gain power to hopefully defeat Grififth.
It's also a miracle that Guts lived through his first time in the Berserker Armor, who knows how many pounds of blood he lost from that experience, surely no normal man could accomplish a feat such as that.
Then of course from there it's an uphill, losing battle that Guts has to fight to defeat all 5 of the Godhand, but isn't that what he's been doing all along?
Jajimufu said:You never know what sort of circumstances Guts and Casca is gonna be in. Maybe she wants Guts to sacrifice her to beat the living fuck outta Griffith for all of the evil he has commited. You're right about Guts already having immense power as it is, but after he gets a power boost from a Beherit who knows what kind of havoc and carnage he may be capable of.
And I never said Guts had a supernatural supply of blood. What I was saying is something to support my original statement that Guts can break free of the control of the Godhand
Listen if Guts can persevere through having his bones crushed and most of his blood supply ran dry and then kill a giant dragon whose skin is "harder to break through than diamond" then he can surely take on the Godhand by himself.
Walter said:And yes, I do think Guts will eventually take on Femto himself. That's a given. But I certainly don't think he has to abandon his humanity, the series' message, and everything he stands for in order to do so.
Jajimufu said:Am I right or am I wrong about everyone not knowing what kind of situation Miura gonna think up, so Idek why you brought that up.
Even if Guts became a demon/ apostle through the Beherit I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he said "Fuck you I'm still a human" so it's basically just a power boost for Guts to lessen the gap between him and Griffith.
And plus Guts went through A LOT more shit than volume 3 bro
jackson_hurley said:It's all about the barites, I'm sure they'll be usefull in the end. I hope we get more info on them.
Walter said:That's ... a little thin.
Jajimufu said:This whole category is based off "ya never know bro" that's why it's called speculation.
Jajimufu said:I'm pretty confident I've laid out a pretty possible outcome/ way Guts could beat the Gohand singlehandedly
Jajimufu said:Even if Guts became a demon/ apostle through the Beherit I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he said "Fuck you I'm still a human" so it's basically just a power boost for Guts to lessen the gap between him and Griffith.
Jajimufu said:I don't think I'm ignoring and don't understand the story.
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I'm not saying that Guts would use a Beherit to gain power, all I'm trying to say here is that he could do it and still be himself and not be evil.
Jajimufu said:You guys are acting like it's impossible for Guts to do that.
Jajimufu said:all I'm saying is don't say that "Guts is never gonna use a Beherit bc that's against his morals" because there's a possibility that he just might.
Jajimufu said:In my original post I also stated that guts could find a way to cut off their power so they would just be like any average being. Your thoughts on that?
Jajimufu said:Hey I ain't tryna start an argument with y'all just wanted to hear your guys thoughts on it. In my original post I also stated that guts could find a way to cut off their power so they would just be like any average being. Your thoughts on that?
Jajimufu said:To preserve the message of Guts keeping his humanity and not bow down to the temptations of the Beherit (which could happen but would be a load of horseshit with how the story is set up)
Jajimufu said:he should just have a 5v1 battle with the Godhand with the berserker armor and any other thing Miura might give Guts to help him out. Like its his battle alone he shouldn't have anyone else helping him out. But I honestly think it's just gonna come down to Guts' rage being too much for them to handle (which is saying a lot after volume 3).
Jajimufu said:the Black Dog