Sareth said:Anyone else notice that the artstyle is more like the episodes of Rickert in Falconia rather than the most recent batch?
MrFlibble said:Called it, it was a dog. [\spoiler]
Sareth said:Anyone else notice that the artstyle is more like the episodes of Rickert in Falconia rather than the most recent batch?
Walter said:the pyramid-shaped structure on the horizon. Also, the things attacking Guts/Casca have Femto-shaped wings.
jackson_hurley said:It looks like a mix of regular specters but with Femto wings like you said. Maybe that's how she interpreted the specters or something of the likes.
Walter said:Oh, yeah I think they're meant to represent specters for sure. I think the addition of the "spears" is just a way to visualize that they are attacking, and over time wounding Guts (here we go with the interpretive analyses!). But it's interesting that Miura gave them that added detail.
jackson_hurley said:And it seems (to me at least) that Casca consider herself a burden for Guts.
Griffith said:I actually took that as a bit of a burden on her as well, him dragging her, or this idea, shell or corpse around everywhere in a casca-et (sorry =).
Walter said:Congratulations? We knew it was a dog as soon as Aazealh pointed out the text saying "dog" in the preview scan half a year ago.
MrFlibble said:Yeah, it harks back to the Golden Age, where she felt guilty over Guts enduring constant injury for her.
jackson_hurley said:Jesus f**** wow. Very nice.I like the Guts/dog parallel with his missing front leg. And the tiny Casca running in Farnese's hand. Cute and sad at the same time.
darnage said:Is it me or the dog's the same race as Gambino's dog? I tried to verify myself but I'm not good with dog, they are a bit different but I can't say if it's because they aren't from the same race or just because Gambino's a puppy.
He's also missing his eye, and he has a scar on his nose, but he doesn't have the astral wound on his back.
jackson_hurley said:I like the Guts/dog parallel with his missing front leg.
Walter said:Good stuff, very curious about the tiny Cascas and the pyramid-shaped structure on the horizon.
Walter said:Also, the things attacking Guts/Casca have Femto-shaped wings.
jackson_hurley said:And is it me or these specters are actually the weird cloaks stuck on a stick?
jackson_hurley said:And it seems (to me at least) that Casca consider herself a burden for Guts.
Griffith said:I actually took that as a bit of a burden on her as well, him dragging her, or this idea, shell or corpse around everywhere in a casca-et (sorry =).
Griffith said:That's a factor, but I was thinking more the expectations Guts has had for her since the beginning, post-eclipse. Despite the sacrifice he's making it's not necessarily a healthy and completely selfless thing he's doing for or to her here. Even if he's protecting what's left of her old self, it's also a broken shell locked in a coffin and chained to a ferocious dog... so, that's a lot of potentially conflicting stuff to unpack. It seems at least somewhat harmful to her recovery as good as the intentions (and real world benefits of not being killed) are, and could in fact be hindering her from moving forward and recovering from where/who she is now.
darnage said:Is it me or the dog's the same race as Gambino's dog?
Aazealh said:We already knew that from the preview...
Aazealh said:What I like about it is that it's a very standard dog and there's no hint of the Beast of Darkness in there, which is as it should be.
Yeah, so the tiny Casca must be the scribbly version of Casca that came with Schierke and Farnese in the last episode, only she has shrunk very small now. Kind of reminds me of Alice in Wonderland. Maybe her size has to do with her feeling more helpless in this situation? She is already normally helpless and child-like and now she seems even more so because she's so small. She's like a tiny little spark of life that's left of this desolated Casca in the casket.jackson_hurley said:And the tiny Casca running in Farnese's hand. Cute and sad at the same time.
Aazealh said:We already knew that from the preview... What I like about it is that it's a very standard dog and there's no hint of the Beast of Darkness in there, which is as it should be. The details with the brand and iron leash/collar and all are neat as well.......
.....Indeed, that's one aspect of it. The image of the coffin chained to the dog's neck, the fact it drags it incessantly across an endless desert, the fact the winged creatures attack the coffin itself first (prompting the dog to bark to defend it)...
Johnny Apples said:One other detail I noticed is how the ground itself underneath that dog's feet is extremely coarse and jagged. Making the act of dragging that Band of Hawk-emblazoned coffin even more painful for him. In a way, the condition/shape of the ground in of itself symbolizes Guts' agonizingly brutal journey.
Demon Knight said:so,the inner of Guts does mean a dog
JMP said:Yeah, so the tiny Casca must be the scribbly version of Casca that came with Schierke and Farnese in the last episode, only she has shrunk very small now.
Aazealh said:I wouldn't say it's a burden on her as much as a very harsh representation of her current state. She sees herself as basically broken and dead, and literally a dead-weight for Guts. I think that implies a lot of misplaced guilt to come on her part.
Aazealh said:I don't really agree with that sentiment. I don't think those scenes are meant to show her resenting Guts for what he's doing, like he's clinging to her old self instead of letting it go. I think it's really much harsher on her than it is on him. He's pictured pretty truthfully: enduring tirelessly and with nothing to show for it.
Aazealh said:http://i.imgur.com/wdQoAv1.jpg
Griffith said:Well, I hope not, especially the latter, though it makes sense.
Griffith said:Perhaps I'm conflating what's being shown here with his attacks on her while possessed by spirits/the beast, but it's hard not to think of that and their resulting estrangement as well given the relation to this dynamic and the similar symbols employed. I think it can be agreed that however they process the situation depicted here if/when/however it changes, it currently sucks for both of them and won't be easy to get over.
Griffith said:It would be great if they somehow come out on the same page though, understanding and forgiving each other and themselves. Unfortunately, their continued trauma makes for better drama, but it should be nice at first anyway, right... please, Miura?
Griffith said:I wonder if human Guts will show up in there by the end of the episode or if those shots of him and the others are happening externally.
jackson_hurley said:I did not find that much difference. I think it might be the filter we get sometime with the Korean scans. I might be offtrack though. But this one seems to come from the official release.
Walter said:Looks about the same to me, but it could indeed be the scan quality playing tricks on us.
Sareth said:The scans mess with the screen tones and line thickness, but I mean the technique and detail itself. Episodes 345-347 were just... off. Maybe I'll try making a comparison later to make my point but I'm just on my lunch break right now. I wonder if we'll be seeing much difference with those episodes when volume 39 is released. I really hope so.