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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #175 on: July 13, 2017, 11:14:00 AM »
I'm ambivalent to the idea of Grunbeld becoming an anti hero apostle that saved his people, part of being an apostle is severing your ties to humanity, apostles don't help people. After all, how does Grunbeld feel about flooding his old homeland with hordes of monsters?

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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #176 on: July 13, 2017, 06:56:05 PM »
I'm ambivalent to the idea of Grunbeld becoming an anti hero apostle that saved his people, part of being an apostle is severing your ties to humanity, apostles don't help people. After all, how does Grunbeld feel about flooding his old homeland with hordes of monsters?

Well, like the rest of Griffith's generals, Grunbeld is more morally ambiguous compared to your typical apostle.

Assuming this is an accurate synopsis, of course.

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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #177 on: July 14, 2017, 06:39:50 PM »
I'm ambivalent to the idea of Grunbeld becoming an anti hero apostle that saved his people, part of being an apostle is severing your ties to humanity, apostles don't help people. After all, how does Grunbeld feel about flooding his old homeland with hordes of monsters?

The deeper we went with the initial summary that was posted, the less it held up. I wouldn't put too much stock into it, particularly details like this.
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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #178 on: July 14, 2017, 07:03:20 PM »
The deeper we went with the initial summary that was posted, the less it held up. I wouldn't put too much stock into it, particularly details like this.

Indeed, I hope it's fake.

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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #179 on: July 14, 2017, 07:57:30 PM »
In my opinion, it's not good to show interest for this novel, unless you want to see it happen again.
It's already selling pretty well. Japanese readers seem to be moderately satisfied with it in general, and many are expecting that more are to come, unfortunately...
Asian people are familiar with this kind of merchandising when movies, manga and the like are successful.

I have the book of course but I decided not to read it. I just checked the end out of curiosity.

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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #180 on: July 16, 2017, 01:19:37 PM »
Question, I know there was a few illustrations provided with the book. Is it by chance like the manga where there is sometime a illustration poster within it? Because shamelessly I would like to buy the novel if there was.

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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #181 on: July 16, 2017, 01:31:09 PM »
Question, I know there was a few illustrations provided with the book. Is it by chance like the manga where there is sometime a illustration poster within it? Because shamelessly I would like to buy the novel if there was.

The illustrations are interspersed throughout the book -- no  posters.
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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #182 on: July 16, 2017, 06:48:04 PM »
Aaz already confirmed my initial question if this is a LN or not, as Fukami wrote wrote such in the past. His confirmation basically killed any last interest for me. A few good LNs do exist (Baccano) but they are ultimately a very cheap way to start a franchise, as the fluffy conversation style plots can easily be turned into manga/anime scripts. Someone would have turned this one into an OVA if the anime didnīt bomb so hard is my guess.

The utterly talentless Makoto Fukami is the much harder strike No.2. I frankly despise him but i will admit that his middling anime work is better than his soft-core manga porn. Amazon.jp reviews even seem to be optimistic enough, with the LN being deemed a breezy yet explicit done-in-one read. One reviewer even called the prose appropriate for elementary school readers, if it wasnīt for all the sex and gore :ganishka: . Itīs kinda nice that the spin-off turned out to be harmless in the end!
 I donīt want more, especially if we canīt get Neo Falcon one-of manga by YAīs Shizuya Wazarai or Kouji Mori. Such would get an immediate approval from me, as long as Miura gets proper story credit.
Or a "real" book and Berserk now has its first entry, outside of merch, that doesnīt target (young) adults. An interesting decision, yet this is hardly the first child inappropriate LN and the pachinko machine targets way older people than the manga, so all male markets are now served by YA. Insert Space Balls joke about merch [here].

I can live with the LN being apocryphal, as the mostly dreadful Star Wars EU used to be, or part of canon, even if the 3rd act seems a bit… off, as this is just a random Grunbeld story. His dead friends could be shown or be hinted at in letīs say a dying moment in the manga. The Dreamcast Mandragora had a cameo too for example. Weīll soon see where we will end up regarding spin-offs but Miura brought his A game for the illustrations. These are the best looking Berserk splash pages pages since Vol.34. They certainly lessen the blow.

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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #183 on: July 17, 2017, 02:41:58 PM »
In my opinion, it's not good to show interest for this novel, unless you want to see it happen again.

I don't think I could agree more with this sentiment, the tricky part is how far to take it. In the end to me it came down to not buying the book at all, even though the illustrations alone were probably worth it. In this instance I ended up deciding that I wouldn't want to contribute sending a message asking for more of these novels. Oh, wait...

It's already selling pretty well.

Perhaps it is too late and the message has already been sent and received.  :sad:


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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #184 on: July 17, 2017, 03:57:54 PM »
Yeah m, it's pretty tricky. I wasn't sure myself whether I should buy it or not. I'd be buying it for the art in the cover (of young Grunbeld) and the illustrations within. Can't translate the written text, so there's no incentive when it comes to reading it and if isn't written by Miura then I'm not really interested in the text. Walter raised valid points in his discussion on the previous page. As of now, I'm on the bend whether to own it or not.
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« Reply #185 on: August 17, 2017, 12:17:08 PM »
I'm not sure if you can take it as an indicator for an English translation, but it seems that a German translation is possible.

Asked on the German panini forum an official answered, that a release of the novel in Germany is "most likely yes" possible. And they also seem to look into a German version of the new character guidebook. Source: https://www.paninishop.de/forum/index.php?thread/8610-fragen-an-die-redaktion-vol-ii/&postID=1886017#post1886017

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Re: Berserk: The Flame Dragon Knight novel
« Reply #186 on: August 19, 2017, 11:00:15 AM »
I can't deny I'm a little disappointed that this is happening to my favorite corundum-covered dragon, of all Apostles. :/
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