Does anyone think it is plausible that Caska will use the behelit? But in a turn of event she sacrifices herself for guts.
PraiseTheEclipseBro said:But in a turn of event she sacrifices herself for guts.
shinpeiro said:I have a very similar theory with Casca using the Beherit, but a different sacrifice. Although not to be a tease and not explain my theory, but I'm of the mind to let the author do the storytelling and let the fans appreciate his work/art. I'll explain when the series comes to an end. I don't want to jinx anything :-X
PraiseTheEclipseBro said:Does anyone think it is plausible that Casca will use the Beherit?
Aazealh said:
No one will remember this post ever existed by the time the series come to an end. Sounds like your theory, if it exists, simply can't withstand public scrutiny.
Lithrael said:The trouble with all the edgiest sacrifice ideas in Berserk is that the closest relationships are between people where one or both have already been sacrificed and so are apparently ineligible.
And the runner-up relationships aren't close enough to have the narrative punch to make it interesting storytelling. I mean, picture Isidro doing it. My reaction would be 'huh' rather than 'shock!!' and that's not what Miura wants at all. We'd have to build up to something with Rickert or even Sonia or Mule to get a sacrifice worth writing.
My current favorite prospect for sleeper mystery is what is really wrong with Azan. But since nothing in Elfhelm is freaked out about him it's not likely to be anything that crazy.
Griffith said:But like Aaz says, nobody is going to remember our half-baked theories by the time it comes to fruition, so we might as well go nuts: Casca uses it to separate Griffith and the child... somehow?
Voldo said:I'm pretty sure branded people can't use Beherits,
Walter said:I don't think the series has ruled out a sacrifice using a Beherit. It's just unlikely to happen in the story, and wouldn't make a terrible amount of sense. For years I thought it strictly wasn't possible, because of Conrad's words in Vol 3. But then I noticed something about when God Hand talk are talking about Beherits and "being ordained by causality."
I think what Conrad said had less to do with Guts being a sacrifice, and more to do with his relationship with the Beherit. Conrad said Guts wasn't "ordained" to be among them as an apostle during the Count's ceremony. But shortly afterwards, Guts ends up with a Beherit, which he's carried around ever since. Now, let's recall Ubik's words to Griffith in Volume 12: "From the moment you took possession of that crimson Beherit, you had the qualities to become a demon ... No, perhaps I should say that because you had those qualities, it fell into your hands."
Though these two dialogues are separated by almost 10 volumes worth of material, the thrust of this argument is reinforced by the repeated urgings from Slan (Vol 3, 26) and the specters (Vol 16), for Guts to use it. That could all be merely dramatic tension or a true threat. But if he ever took the offer, it would be a dead-end in terms of the story.
Let's apply that potential outcome to the two most obvious scenarios:
Guts takes the deal, however unlikely that sounds. This effectively ends the series. Guts is no longer a human, and the God Hand have influence over him, just like what happened when Ganishka faced Griffith in Vritannis. Thus, the conflict at the heart of the series would come to a swift and unsatisfying end.
Casca takes the deal. There'd be no saving her from that. Whether he can bring himself to kill her or not, Guts would be demoralized, and his consistent savior to relinquish the Beast's hold on him would be gone.
So... yeah, it's not something I like spending too much time debating. I'm a pragmatic guy, and hypotheticals aren't really my thing. Instead, as we've said here for years, I can't help but think that Miura has bigger plans for it than merely another apostle ceremony.
Faded said:My half-baked (or fully baked, haha) theory is that they somehow figure out a way to imbue Guts's Beherit into the Dragon Slayer, allowing Guts to physically wound the God Hand. It wouldn't shock anyone but it would definitely fit better into the story than some of these various dark sacrifice theories.
Faded said:Think about how cool a Femto-Guts battle would be if Guts could cleave open portals and attack Femto from all these various angles
Faded said:Biggest hole I can poke in my own theory is that having 2 Beherit swords in the same story would be seen by some as redundant
Faded said:why not just have Skull Knights Beherit sword end up in Guts hands somehow? Still think it would be cool to see Guts have access to teleportation.
Aazealh said:Yeah, because Skull Knight's beherit sword technique worked really well against Femto the last time he tried it.
Faded said:I already concede my theory is bogus in general, but this point by you could technically be argued. Femto somehow knew that Skull Knight was going to show up (Sonia is feeding Femto prophecies perhaps?) If somehow Guts was able to wield the Beherit sword that *might* surprise Femto enough that he wouldn't be able to grasp the astral rip caused by Guts swinging it. Maybe.
MrFlibble said:I think the only plausible candidate for using the Beherit is Serpico. Casca can't use the Beherit when Guts has already been sacrificed, and Griffith is a God Hand member. I doubt the God Hand would trade one of their own for a commom type of demon.
Aazealh said:I really don't think anyone in Guts' group will be using that beherit.
Archer1215 said:I know you’re joking, but I don’t think Sonia will ever leave Griffith’s side.
Faded said:It's all fun and games until Sonia joins Guts group. *adjusts tinfoil hat*
Archer1215 said:Well, we do know that the whatever their plan is, we do know that the prophesied Age of Darkness isn't something that will last forever.
"I suppose that's what people will call it afterwards. The Age of Darkness." -- Void, Episode 88
This line implies that not only will the Age of Darkness come and go, but that humans will will still be around by the time it ends. I think that's where we are now with the birth of Fantasia.
I like Sonia as a character, just as I like Mule and Charlotte. But I just don't think this is the type of story where these people wake up, face reality, and relinquish the evil in their hearts. Particularly Sonia, who appears to have a deeper connection with Griffith than anyone else in his ranks. And honestly, I just don't think that would be a very interesting turn of events. The contrary just makes for a far more engaging conflict in my opinion.