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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2018, 11:15:09 PM »
And heres to another watershed moment! The upcoming character interactions and subsequent development have me chomping at the bit. I won't even speculate on how the next handful of episodes will play out, really I'm happy to just hop on and enjoy the ride. The various emotions and drama to come may not be quite as intense as what we just witnessed but it's going to be bubbly.

Hopefully I don't need to encase the rest of this in black, but spoiler warning to anyone reading further!

Jumping right into the debate at hand... I think how the rape was handled in this episode was just about spot on. We've already experienced it when it happened, we've reflected on it with Guts and his right eye's last sight, and now I think the way we see it from Casca's perspective fits in well with how we've been experiencing her memories in the dream so far- where nothing has been overly dwelled on. Making it far enough to even trigger the memory was a traumatic battle in itself and then you have Schierke's warnings as the memory opens with a stark picture of the eclipse. As with the other memories we, again, get right to the point as all the terrors and violence swirl in a horrifying, disorienting vortex with only the rape scene piercing through all that confusion, emphasizing it's importance before the gorgeous two-page spread of Casca shattering into pieces of a broken doll- highlighting both the critical moment as well as finally revealing the knowledge Schierke and Farnese were chasing all this time. I also don't think Miura necessarily needed to show more as in my opinion he already made us do the work for him...  we've been remembering/debating that harrowing scene for literally months, even casual readers were worried about how it would be broached. Having it be the only clear moment in a sea of other horrors told me enough. It's also important to remember that while she may be sane now, her trauma is far from cured. We'll just have to see how that's dealt with in the future.


It's been such a long time, but man, it's good to have her back.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2018, 12:50:19 AM »
Wow this was an amazing episode! I loved Schierke's recollection of SK's words on the beach and I wonder how Casca will react to Schierke and Farnese being inside her dream. It will be interesting to see how the old Casca will be merged with a lucid, post traumatic Casca and what her immediate reactions in the real world will be. I wonder if she will be confused or immediately frightened, haunted with flashbacks from the physical and emotional trauma experienced from the eclipse. I can't wait to see where the story goes from here! Also pumped for this upcoming podcast :guts:

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2018, 12:53:05 AM »
Such a beautiful episode   :judo:
This is the moment that we've all been waiting for. Almost 22 years and over 260 episodes later, it finally happened - Casca is back!!  :guts: :casca:

And I love how Miura makes it clear that while Casca's sanity (and memories) may have been restored, her pain and psychological trauma are still there. And they are raw as ever. I really like how this episode reminds us there are some things that no amount of magic can make go away and that there will be no easy fixes. Even Danan's formidable magic is no silver bullet for Casca's condition.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2018, 01:12:00 AM »
Such a beautiful episode   :judo:
This is the moment that we've all been waiting for. Almost 22 years and over 260 episodes later, it finally happened - Casca is back!!  :guts: :casca:

And I love how Miura makes it clear that while Casca's sanity (and memories) may have been restored, her pain and psychological trauma are still there. And they are raw as ever. I really like how this episode reminds us there are some things that no amount of magic can make go away and that there will be no easy fixes. Even Danan's formidable magic is no silver bullet for Casca's condition.

Agreed Johnny Apples. I also love how the Eclipse was showcased in this episode. Iím glad the episode didnít focus simply on the rape, but emphasized how the event in its entirety was the source of Cascaís trauma. I loved the symbolism with her heart being covered in thorns, and I thought the helix imagery reminiscent of the Idea of Evil and Vortex of Souls was very interesting.

And next month we will finally be gifted interactions between Casca and Guts again, as well as her reactions towards the events that transpired during the Eclipse. I havenít anticipated an episode like this in a long time.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #54 on: February 23, 2018, 03:59:54 AM »
What a great episode. I cannot say more than what you guys already said. I'm happy right now.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2018, 05:26:44 AM »
And I love how Miura makes it clear that while Casca's sanity (and memories) may have been restored, her pain and psychological trauma are still there. And they are raw as ever. I really like how this episode reminds us there are some things that no amount of magic can make go away and that there will be no easy fixes. Even Danan's formidable magic is no silver bullet for Casca's condition.

Agreed. They put a heart covered in thorns back in the vessel. That could only mean her feelings and trust will be locked away from people. I really hope Guts gets what he wants though :sad:.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2018, 09:47:12 AM »
WHOA. It's done?? We have lucid Casca in the story again!!  Thank you for the translation, Puella & Aaz!

...but, what should we expect her to remember now, about the eclipse and everything afterwards? From Schierke's words I'm getting the vibes "not much", and I can fully understand why. But how will it even begin to get processed then? Will Guts get to tell her about it, and would it resurface her own memories, causing her problems or would it stay in some kind of "third-person" view then? Because if it stays in some kind of locked in state, it would surely cause all kinds of painful things for her emotionally. (Not that having those memories wouldn't be immensely painful in their own, but then she would actually have better chance to point the source of her pain.)

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2018, 09:51:28 AM »
This left me wordless. I teared all the way through this episode. Thanks, Puella.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2018, 09:53:56 AM »
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, seeing so many people rejoice at this episode, but I gotta tell you my thoughts, and if it gets a conversation going, that's a good thing, right?

It's about the portrayal of Farnese's & Schierke's reaction to the trauma, not the actual way trauma was shown, I'm happy with that.

I'd like you to recall the recurring scene in the first Black Swordsman ark, where Puck taps into Guts's mind the first several times. It visibly hurts Puck, or maybe just makes him uncomfortable, but re-read upon re-read I thought to myself: if someone connects to eclipse survivor's mind, it got to be like this but on steroids. The counter-argument I thought of was: well, by the time Puck and Guts meet, Puck is new to Guts's life, all the terrible things he experiences and experienced (that's actually the plot! =) ). But by the time we get to the corridor of dreams, both Farnese and Schierke been through a lot already.

Still, to me [v1p52-53, v2p95-98] was(is) the series' establishment of how painful can the memory be when one character mentally connects with another. Now, when we go to this new episode, yes, Farnese & Schierke look surprised, hand to the mouth motion, but then immediatly go to "look! a heart!". Not even a finger-to-the-bridge-of-a-nose, give-me-a-minute, this-was-too-much, just boom, boom, boom, scene into the next one, clear mind to speak of curses and repercussions.

Another thing I noticed is, on the last page, when Casca opens her eyes, we see glowy things around, which are spores, and we're back to the "bed of magic mushrooms", to the real world already, this episode! I realize this may be obvious and it's just me not realizing this immediately, but what I'm trying to get at is - this feels rushed.
I liked the pacing of all of the last episodes, basically since group's arrival to elfhelm, because I thought we were rushing to a specific event (events of this episode!). But now this was dealt with so quickly... what's the rush?

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2018, 11:18:24 AM »
The various emotions and drama to come may not be quite as intense as what we just witnessed but it's going to be bubbly.

Oh I wouldn't be so sure, man. I think we're in for some very strong emotional moments going forward.

I think how the rape was handled in this episode was just about spot on. We've already experienced it when it happened, we've reflected on it with Guts and his right eye's last sight, and now I think the way we see it from Casca's perspective fits in well with how we've been experiencing her memories in the dream so far- where nothing has been overly dwelled on.

I agree, though I also stand by my first impression (that I would have liked that bottom panel to at least be a full page). One thing that also bears reminding is that the previous three episodes, which make up half of the sequence inside Casca's nightmare, have shown us Farnese and Schierke ascending a hill of horrors that is literally filled to the brim with penis monsters. It's all very explicit. And it culminated with them facing the king of the monsters, a dark falcon whose design is also deliberately penis-like. So I'm guessing Miura might have felt that he had hammered it in enough already.

As with the other memories we, again, get right to the point as all the terrors and violence swirl in a horrifying, disorienting vortex with only the rape scene piercing through all that confusion, emphasizing it's importance before the gorgeous two-page spread of Casca shattering into pieces of a broken doll- highlighting both the critical moment as well as finally revealing the knowledge Schierke and Farnese were chasing all this time.

Seeing her break at the midsection is another subtle cue that I appreciated.
On that note, nobody's talking about the Demon Child being the symbol for that last fragment anymore, but I'm still looking forward to how Miura will address the connection between the rape and the boy (and his corruption) in Casca's mind.

I really hope Guts gets what he wants though :sad:.

What happens next is anyone's guess, but you probably shouldn't expect a quick and simple conclusion. Guts and Casca's situation/relationship is complex in many ways. I have no doubt they will find each other again eventually, but the keyword here is "eventually". This episode showed Farnese and Schierke basically bringing Casca back without addressing her trauma at all, which means it will have to be dealt with going forward. On top of that, Casca now lives in a completely different world with different rules, she's in a strange place surrounded by strangers, and not only is Guts a pretty different person from who he was the last time she saw him, she herself is very different. And that's without even getting into the biggest deal of all: their son.

Now, when we go to this new episode, yes, Farnese & Schierke look surprised, hand to the mouth motion, but then immediatly go to "look! a heart!". Not even a finger-to-the-bridge-of-a-nose, give-me-a-minute, this-was-too-much, just boom, boom, boom, scene into the next one, clear mind to speak of curses and repercussions.

It's true, we don't see them dealing with the aftershock. I would have appreciated a page or a few panels showing them to be more affected by the event. However, Schierke warns Farnese to steel herself before they initiate the memory, and that might have mitigated the effect. We also do get that fantastic shot of Farnese's eyes as the memory rushes inside her, and her comments there, even more than the picture, are very telling. That brings me to what I think is an important detail: much like Casca's trauma has yet to be addressed, it's possible that Farnese and Schierke will feel the toll of what they experienced beyond the Corridor of Dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if they were haunted by what they've seen.

Another thing I noticed is, on the last page, when Casca opens her eyes, we see glowy things around, which are spores, and we're back to the "bed of magic mushrooms", to the real world already, this episode! I realize this may be obvious

Haha, I'm surprised that not everyone noticed it immediately. I mean, regardless of the spores, she's wearing her robes and all. And if you look at the penultimate page, they're clearly being "called back" to the waking world by Danan.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2018, 01:25:16 PM »
I liked the pacing of all of the last episodes, basically since group's arrival to elfhelm, because I thought we were rushing to a specific event (events of this episode!). But now this was dealt with so quickly... what's the rush?

I get what you mean. I actually remember being very surprised when the initial leaks were released that Casca was waking up already. I expected at least another episode after this one before the Corridor of Dreams plot was resolved. I had anticipated there being some sort of moment for Casca to become aware of what was happening and be forced to confront her trauma and make the final decision to wake up herself.

Although the more I think about it the more I prefer things this way. Now we can have that moment of realization and those reactions alongside her interactions with Guts and the rest of the party. I like the idea of Casca being ďforcedĒ out of her insanity to actually process and deal with her trauma without giving her a say in the matter. It will no doubt add to the drama in the coming episodes.

As for the Eclipse, I thought it was handled very well. Farnese and Schierke had already been dealing with the Eclipse for the past few episodes in order to get to the last memory fragment, fighting the penis monsters, representations of the Apostles, and the ďKing of the MonstersĒ representation of Femto. They were also visibly cracking from the fear and stress, but still managed to continue fighting on. I thought that was very powerful.

As for the actual memory fragment itself, I liked the way the Eclipse was presented. The panorama of all the terrible things Casca saw during the Eclipse ending with an emphasized finale of the moment that ultimately caused her descent into insanity. I was surprised it didnít linger, but I donít think it was necessary. Weíve already seen these events ourselves after all, and though Farnese and Schierke did seem a bit less perturbed by the actual experience than I thought they would be, I think the scene accomplished its task. That being to offer Farnese and Schierke a real look at what broke Casca so they can help her recover in the real world.

As for what I anticipate in the future, I do agree with Aaz that an explanation for how and why Casca understands and associates the Demon Child with the Eclipse would be necessary. And I do think we will have that as well. More than anything, Iím curious how Casca is going to remember her post-Eclipse memories now that she has regained her sanity. Will they be more instinctual or subconscious? Will she slowly remember them over time or through her dreams? Or will she remember everything as if she were always lucid? There are a lot of directions this can go.

At least I can say that I think this was the best episode in a long time and that I havenít anticipated a new episode this much for as long as Iíve been a fan of Berserk.
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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #61 on: February 23, 2018, 01:35:23 PM »

Haha, I'm surprised that not everyone noticed it immediately. I mean, regardless of the spores, she's wearing her robes and all. And if you look at the penultimate page, they're clearly being "called back" to the waking world by Danan.

I've noticed it on the first read but I didn't think it was necessary to mention it since it was (for me at least) pretty clear that it was the spores from the mushrooms. Plus like you said, the robe....

But to come back to Esper's post, i did not feel the last episode to be that rushed. I was very satisfied with the pacing of the events and I would not be surprised if indeed Schierke and FarnŤse are in fact somehow affected by that trip Inside Casca's mind. Like it or not, they sure saw some fucked up scenery there and even though they knew they were just in a dream, it can mess you up.

I've never had anything that traumatising in my life and some of my nightmares mess me up so I can't even imagined how this nightmare can affect Schierke and FarnŤse at some level.

One thing for sure ; they deserve a well rest! After all, the others are partying while waiting. It's their turn to relax.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #62 on: February 23, 2018, 01:50:01 PM »
I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, seeing so many people rejoice at this episode, but I gotta tell you my thoughts, and if it gets a conversation going, that's a good thing, right?

Right.



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I'd like you to recall the recurring scene in the first Black Swordsman ark, where Puck taps into Guts's mind the first several times. It visibly hurts Puck, or maybe just makes him uncomfortable, but re-read upon re-read I thought to myself: if someone connects to eclipse survivor's mind, it got to be like this but on steroids. The counter-argument I thought of was: well, by the time Puck and Guts meet, Puck is new to Guts's life, all the terrible things he experiences and experienced (that's actually the plot! =) ). But by the time we get to the corridor of dreams, both Farnese and Schierke been through a lot already.

Another pretty big factor is that Puck is an Elf and experiences and empathizes differently and deeply. We can debate how similarly Schierke and Farnese are being exposed to these memories and feelings in the state they're in and how strongly they should react in any case, but this definitely bolsters that Puck's experiences are unique. Another variable is it was Guts' memories/emotions too, and on top of the memory he was already consciously burdened by the trauma and anger that awaits Casca if that makes you feel better, Debbie Downer. =)

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Another thing I noticed is, on the last page, when Casca opens her eyes, we see glowy things around, which are spores, and we're back to the "bed of magic mushrooms", to the real world already, this episode! I realize this may be obvious and it's just me not realizing this immediately, but what I'm trying to get at is - this feels rushed.
I liked the pacing of all of the last episodes, basically since group's arrival to elfhelm, because I thought we were rushing to a specific event (events of this episode!). But now this was dealt with so quickly... what's the rush?

Was it? I mean, it has been 20 years. :griffnotevil:

And despite this technically being THE EPISODE we see Casca restored, it's not like this event was all contained in this single episode unto itself rather than the last half dozen, a half volume, in addition to their physical journey and preparation for this on top of, again, 20 years. There was a possibility the dream corridor wouldn't even exist at all anymore once their mission was complete, so that confirmation in Casca's mind transitioning to the waking world was actually a nice touch. What else would you have done? Have Schierke and Casca talk about what just happened more, to talk with some mental representation of Casca? They've already been there and the former is what the real world is for. Also, making that last page of Casca the last of this episode or the first of the next makes no difference in the long run, but it provides a tremendously rewarding throughline and payoff of the completion of the ritual and its immediate real world consequences within the episode itself, and our experience as up-to-date readers, without stepping on the milestones to come such as her addressing the group, and Guts most of all.
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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2018, 03:20:15 PM »
What a fantastic Episode.  Thank you Aaz and Puella for the translation.  I caught back up with the series just in time to get to see the event I've been waiting for since I started reading the series back in 2004.  With the pace these last couple episodes have had, I get the feeling that Miura is getting a refreshed excitement of getting to do something that he has been thinking about how to do for 20 years.  And hopefully that means that this writing high may mean a period with fewer or at least shorter hiatuses. 
As far as the depection of the rape and the events of the eclipse from Casca's view, I feel like it was handled well.  To not emphasis on the details of the eclipse, and to focus on the emotional effect of the characters fit for this portion, because I get the feeling that now that Casca is awake, she will now be having flashes back to details of the eclipse during other parts of the story.  Much like how when the horse "Mounts" Farnese, Guts has his flash back to the Eclipse that reignites his anger/rage.  Casca may, for an example, see Farnese Pinned down to the floor, and get a flashback of Guts being pinned down reigniting her feelings of helplessness/despair of being able to do anything about it and may succumb to these feelings or fight them.
I'm excited to see her talk to Guts again for the first time.  I suppose I'm just excited about the phase of the story we are now entering, where we don't know the next goals of the characters yet.  I suppose I'm just excited about all of it. :ubik:

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #64 on: February 23, 2018, 04:25:15 PM »
I'm excited to see her talk to Guts again for the first time.  I suppose I'm just excited about the phase of the story we are now entering, where we don't know the next goals of the characters yet.  I suppose I'm just excited about all of it. :ubik:

Next episode is going to be heavy. Guts and Casca reunion accompanied by the latter's realization that the Eclipse wasn't just a bad dream. I don't think I've ever been this excited for a new Berserk episode.

As for what their next goals are, I've been thinking back to the scene on the boat after the Sea God section where Guts looks out the window and begins to inwardly declare what he will do after his current journey is over.


This could easily be taken as Guts deciding to go after revenge again (and I've seen a lot of people come to this conclusion). But I've also been wondering if this isn't him resigning himself to staying on Elfhelm with Casca for her sake. Since he comes to this decision after thinking to himself that Casca became insane because she couldn't cope with the trauma. Maybe he is deciding here that he doesn't repeat his previous mistake and leave her behind for revenge while she is in such a critical state. And the look in his eyes is one of frustration because he knows this means keeping himself away from what he wants.Of course things obviously wouldn't go that way or at least continue that way forever for the sake of the narrative. Just a thought.

Although whatever happens, I'm pretty sure it will be something to continue keeping Guts away from revenge.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #65 on: February 23, 2018, 04:55:30 PM »
Oh, oh, thank you Puella and Aazealh for a quick translation so we can already discuss the latest events!
(Didn't thank you in the first post, what am I doing  :schnoz:)

Right.

Haha, yeah! Well, when after 5 years (for me) of waiting for this moment, I go at it like "Guuys, it's not the way I want it to be! Like the author has his own vision!", I think I can laugh at myself.

...and I would not be surprised if indeed Schierke and FarnŤse are in fact somehow affected by that trip Inside Casca's mind. Like it or not, they sure saw some fucked up scenery there and even though they knew they were just in a dream, it can mess you up.
That brings me to what I think is an important detail: much like Casca's trauma has yet to be addressed, it's possible that Farnese and Schierke will feel the toll of what they experienced beyond the Corridor of Dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if they were haunted by what they've seen.

Probably this then. Could be an emphasis placed shortly after waking up or just afterwards. This, Casca meeting Guts, recalling all that happened, the topic of their child, the fact that a bunch of the group is now to varying extent familiar with the Band of the Falcon history... Whew, that's a snowball of themes and topics.

Another pretty big factor is that Puck is an Elf and experiences and empathizes differently and deeply. We can debate how similarly Schierke and Farnese are being exposed to these memories and feelings in the state they're in and how strongly they should react in any case, but this definitely bolsters that Puck's experiences are unique. Another variable is it was Guts' memories/emotions too, and on top of the memory he was already consciously burdened by the trauma and anger that awaits Casca if that makes you feel better, Debbie Downer. =)

Sure, personally not the first time with the series when I went to analyze it "as 1s and 0s", this equals that, "the established rules of magic". It's a different and more correct thing to look at the corridor of dreams as a whole experiense, the fragments' visions AND Farnese&Schierke's journey through the dream, and when you do, it's incomparable with what Puck did and weighs more than just the visions, let alone separate ones.

Also yes, Guts was a walking boiling cauldron of emotions, heated by the eclipse, while Casca's dream sequence was of a broken mind containing... a rupture? If we switch and compare, Puck wasn't getting anything from Casca, while he even got images from Guts, and I don't even want to think what Guts's corridor of dreams would be.
I think I got too far with this.

I mean, regardless of the spores, she's wearing her robes and all. And if you look at the penultimate page, they're clearly being "called back" to the waking world by Danan.
Also, making that last page of Casca the last of this episode or the first of the next makes no difference in the long run, but it provides a tremendously rewarding throughline and payoff of the completion of the ritual and its immediate real world consequences within the episode itself, and our experience as up-to-date readers, without stepping on the milestones to come such as her addressing the group, and Guts most of all.

What I'm saying is, this page made me realize two things: first, we're done with the dream, even though I could use more of it, and second, the pacing is not stopping, we're still moving forward like this!

I can't wait for what happens next in the story.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #66 on: February 23, 2018, 06:43:17 PM »
Next episode is going to be heavy. Guts and Casca reunion accompanied by the latter's realization that the Eclipse wasn't just a bad dream. I don't think I've ever been this excited for a new Berserk episode.
Agreed.
As for what their next goals are, I've been thinking back to the scene on the boat after the Sea God section where Guts looks out the window and begins to inwardly declare what he will do after his current journey is over.

This could easily be taken as Guts deciding to go after revenge again (and I've seen a lot of people come to this conclusion). But I've also been wondering if this isn't him resigning himself to staying on Elfhelm with Casca for her sake. Since he comes to this decision after thinking to himself that Casca became insane because she couldn't cope with the trauma. Maybe he is deciding here that he doesn't repeat his previous mistake and leave her behind for revenge while she is in such a critical state. And the look in his eyes is one of frustration because he knows this means keeping himself away from what he wants.Of course things obviously wouldn't go that way or at least continue that way forever for the sake of the narrative. Just a thought.
That is a good scene.  I took this scene as a reminder that Guts wants revenge, even though he knows he should not pursue it.  I see his reflections at other times of missing the opportunities to be with what matters as important to this part as well.  Where he declared he would never leave Casca again, or his reflecting that no matter how much you force something it will never be what it once was, or Godo's talk with him to remind him that hatred consumes a person, and that hatred is the place people go when they cannot handle their own sorrow.  I agree that he had resigned himself to staying on the Island with Casca, since when reflecting he also mentioned that he would only need to use the berserker armor until he gets there, hoping by doing so he would be able to retain his remaining senses.  As for next goals, I almost see a SK intervention, Moonchild, or something to convince Guts to return.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #67 on: February 23, 2018, 10:17:00 PM »
I don't even want to think what Guts's corridor of dreams would be.

I'd actually like to see that, as unlikely as it is. Casca and Puck venturing into that that tortured mind... that'd be quite a sight!

This could easily be taken as Guts deciding to go after revenge again (and I've seen a lot of people come to this conclusion). But I've also been wondering if this isn't him resigning himself to staying on Elfhelm with Casca for her sake. Since he comes to this decision after thinking to himself that Casca became insane because she couldn't cope with the trauma. Maybe he is deciding here that he doesn't repeat his previous mistake and leave her behind for revenge while she is in such a critical state. And the look in his eyes is one of frustration because he knows this means keeping himself away from what he wants.Of course things obviously wouldn't go that way or at least continue that way forever for the sake of the narrative. Just a thought.

Episode 331 acted in many ways as a reminder of various characters' state of mind, goals and current development. So there actually isn't much that is new in that scene with Guts. He still wants revenge for what Griffith did, but Casca's well-being is also still his top priority above everything else. Nothing has changed in that regard. Of course they'll have to get off the island eventually (and not just that, but head to Falconia for the final confrontation), but it's not going to come from Guts just being bloodthirsty. Circumstances that are out of their control will push them to do it. The real question is: what will these be?

We already have some clues, the most obvious one being that the flow of time in Skellig is different from what it is in the rest of the world. That means they can't stay too long. That also means anyone left behind is likely not to be seen again.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #68 on: February 24, 2018, 03:50:32 PM »
I have no words. I started reading this series when I was a little kid, and now 14-15 years later we're getting something of a closure of events which occurred while I still couldn't ride a fucking bike. I've grown through puberty and into adulthood waiting for this moment, and now when I have it in front of me I can't contain myself. :judo:

The art.. THE ART!! oh my god! Miura has made some terrific panels and spreads since Guts and co. got off the boat, but this chapter was a damn treasure trove of magnificent and poignant pages and panels..

During one the long(er) hiatuses I made peace with the fact that I might never see the end of the story, I've gotten more from this unfinished story than I have from 99.99% of the media I've consumed in my life already, so letting myself get distraught over a distant possibility when I've already gotten this much didn't make sense to me. However, there was always this itching thing in the back of my mind, one last request for Miura if you will.. All I wanted was to see Casca's face again.

And now I gotta go and do something about my teary eyes before the family dinner..

Peace. :casca:

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2018, 06:23:20 PM »
Oh boy, what a time to be alive. After all these long years of struggle, itís finally happened. I never thought Iíd see this moment, and now that itís finally here.... I donít know what to say.
It does put me in a reminiscent mood. Like many of you have said before me, Iíve been on this wild ride for many years. My entire adult life, actually. How long has it been exactly? 18 years, I think, or close to. In the time that I first discovered Berserk, and longed for Cascaís sanity, I graduated high school, and college, my career has changed several times, I got married, had a kid, and separated. My interest waxed and waned over the years, partially due to the hiatuses, to Life, and also because I just never thought theyíd get off that fucking boat. In that time I have read and reread the series from first to last, and Iím in the middle of it again. The timing couldnít be better, as Iíve just come to Episode 82.
But here it is! Itís beautiful. Itís wonderful. And itís heartbreaking. For so long Cascaís kept herself locked away from those horrific events, the death of all those she held dear, and the betrayal of the one she saw as her Savior. It broke her, and her madness was the last line of defense. Now sheís been forced to confront it, to relive those most painful moments, by those who thought they had her best interest in mind. Will she be thankful? Can she handle the harsh realities? Will she be able to come to terms with the truth, to accept the world she now finds herself in?
I really donít have any insight to share. Itís been years since Iíve said anything here, or discussed Berserk at length, so youíll have to forgive me. Iím happy to see this forum is still living and breathing, and welcoming new strugglers! I really just wanted to peek my head in for once and share in this momentous occasion.
(Apologies if I overshared there  :farnese: or didnít share enough   :carcus::casca: )

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« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2018, 08:17:16 PM »
I really donít have any insight to share. Itís been years since Iíve said anything here, or discussed Berserk at length, so youíll have to forgive me. Iím happy to see this forum is still living and breathing, and welcoming new strugglers! I really just wanted to peek my head in for once and share in this momentous occasion.

(Apologies if I overshared there  :farnese: or didnít share enough   :carcus::casca: )

No need to apologize man, we get it, this is truly a new benchmark in Berserk's story, I'm still in disbelief and feeling sentimental over this and I've only been into Berserk for about 7 years, I can't imagine what you and the others who've read it for nearly (or over) 2 decades must be feeling. Oh and welcome back to the forum :)

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2018, 08:36:20 PM »
No need to apologize man, we get it, this is truly a new benchmark in Berserk's story, I'm still in disbelief and feeling sentimental over this and I've only been into Berserk for about 7 years, I can't imagine what you and the others who've read it for nearly (or over) 2 decades must be feeling. Oh and welcome back to the forum :)

Seven years? Wow. Iíve only been a Berserk fan for four years, and this still feels like a long-awaited moment for me. This is another turning point for the series, perhaps even exceeding Gutsí epiphany in the Conviction Arc in force of impact. Itís an exciting time for Berserk fans in general. I can only imagine how you guys who have been reading the series the longest are feeling.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2018, 09:39:11 PM »
Oh boy, what a time to be alive. After all these long years of struggle, itís finally happened. I never thought Iíd see this moment, and now that itís finally here.... I donít know what to say.
It does put me in a reminiscent mood. Like many of you have said before me, Iíve been on this wild ride for many years. My entire adult life, actually. How long has it been exactly? 18 years, I think, or close to.

Hey man, welcome back! Good to hear from you. Once you get "caught up" you should come on our podcast :guts:

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and also because I just never thought theyíd get off that fucking boat.

Oh no have "the boat people" infected you too? You've been away too long, and you've become irradiated. They weren't on a boat for very long. From the Sea Horse to the shoreline of Skellig lasted a few panels at most.  :griffnotevil:

Latest podcast should be up tonight or tomorrow, folks. It's a good, long one.
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« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2018, 10:05:53 PM »
Seven years? Wow. Iíve only been a Berserk fan for four years, and this still feels like a long-awaited moment for me. This is another turning point for the series, perhaps even exceeding Gutsí epiphany in the Conviction Arc in force of impact. Itís an exciting time for Berserk fans in general. I can only imagine how you guys who have been reading the series the longest are feeling.

I can only speak for myself with this but in all honesty I think the long waits between episodes and volumes is actually a factor in what makes Berserk so appealing to me, I understand that for a lot of fans the monthly release schedule and hiatuses can kill their hype and stagnate their overall interest in the series (I was the same way a couple years ago) but as I've gotten older I feel like I'm growing with the story and characters, it makes it more epic to me, knowing that the series began years before I was born, that I got into it in high school and that by the time it ends I very well may have a child or two to share it with. (albeit once they're old enough to handle it of course  :ganishka:)

Casca being awakened like this totally caught me off guard, I was expecting and willing to wait another 4+ years for it to happen so the day that I woke up and saw the episode, it didn't just make my day or week, its made my entire month. Its moments like this that let me know I can have faith in Miura because no matter how long it takes, he always delivers!

Latest podcast should be up tonight or tomorrow, folks. It's a good, long one.

Awesome, looking forward to it Walter. You, Aazealh, and Griffith (among others like Grail depending on the episode) always offer great insight so I'm sure the duration will be warranted.

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Re: Episode 354
« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2018, 10:46:45 PM »
Iím happy to see this forum is still living and breathing, and welcoming new strugglers! I really just wanted to peek my head in for once and share in this momentous occasion.

Nice to see you, old man. :SK:

P.S. The sea journey was awesome, don't make me fight you! :mozgus: