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Offline NorthernHobbit

What would Mozgus have thought of Griffith?
« on: January 04, 2019, 04:10:16 AM »
 :mozgus: Greetings, this speculation popped in my mind so I wondered what you Berserkos think would happen had Mozgus travelled to Falconia. Would he view Griffith as the falcon of light? :griffnotevil: or a heretic?  :femto:

It's interesting how Mozgus and Griffith contrast, they both rule land in the name of religion but contratst in their methods. Mozgus envokes fear, Griffith envokes compassion.

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Re: What would Mozgus have thought of Griffith?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 08:03:28 AM »
:mozgus: Greetings, this speculation popped in my mind so I wondered what you Berserkos think would happen had Mozgus travelled to Falconia. Would he view Griffith as the falcon of light? :griffnotevil: or a heretic?  :femto:

I don't think Mozgus would have any reason to doubt Griffith - and considering his immense zeal for the faith - he'd probably be as enamored with him as the Holy Father is.

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It's interesting how Mozgus and Griffith contrast, they both rule land in the name of religion but contratst in their methods. Mozgus envokes fear, Griffith envokes compassion.

As far as I remember Mozgus wasn't a lord, but rather a renowned inquisitor: an important tool of the Church.  Quite different from the authority over the lay peoples/aristocrats, as well as the very magisterium that Mozgus once yielded to, that Griffith now possesses.
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Re: What would Mozgus have thought of Griffith?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2019, 01:43:45 PM »
He would be the most "shut up and take my money dot jay pee gee" of devotees.

In all seriousness, Mozgus was never much of a critical thinker, and Griffith gave humans no room for doubt of his legitimacy. Charlotte's devotion brings him the throne, and the Pontiff's devotion allows him to step neatly into the shoes of their hollow idol.

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Re: What would Mozgus have thought of Griffith?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2019, 03:21:52 PM »
Theoretically it wouldn't matter if he thought of Griffith as a heretic either since Griffiths super charismatic aura power would win him over easily.
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Re: What would Mozgus have thought of Griffith?
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2019, 08:32:51 AM »
I don't think he'd be so quick to fall in line with Griffith.  First, because it would be more narratively interesting for him to be another actor that wouldn't side with Guts exactly, but would take a stand against Griffith.

More importantly though, Mozgus is completely, utterly devoted to God and not even a king is above God, so if he were to offer any loyalty to Griffith, it would only be because politics expects it of him and the current Pontiff endorses him.  This would last until Mozgus discovers that Griffith has his own personal army of monster men and his own witch, then the inquisitor in him would come out.  It certainly doesn't help that if Mozgus had survived, he'd have witnessed Griffith's rebirth and with it, him flying off on the back of a black-winged demon.

I can imagine him re-emerging at Vritannis, following the Pontiff until the final battle with Ganishka, questioning everything that happens at that point and eventually leaving with Rickert.

Of course, all this assumes that Griffith doesn't spare any time to try and bring him into the fold, which might work, or might be futile against Mozgus' indomitable will.

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Re: What would Mozgus have thought of Griffith?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2019, 02:21:51 PM »
I don't think he'd be so quick to fall in line with Griffith.  First, because it would be more narratively interesting for him to be another actor that wouldn't side with Guts exactly, but would take a stand against Griffith.

More narratively interesting? I mean there's a reason this is a purely hypothetical scenario, and that's because it's not narratively interesting to begin with.
Basically, it doesn't matter what Mozgus would have thought. He was a cog in a complex machine during the Conviction arc, but beyond that his existence was inconsequential.
Putting that aside, Walter got it right. Mozgus was a zealot and he would have no doubt lapped up what Griffith is offering. There isn't any ground to argue that he would have taken a stand against Griffith (not that he would have been able to anyway).

More importantly though, Mozgus is completely, utterly devoted to God and not even a king is above God, so if he were to offer any loyalty to Griffith, it would only be because politics expects it of him and the current Pontiff endorses him.  This would last until Mozgus discovers that Griffith has his own personal army of monster men and his own witch, then the inquisitor in him would come out.  It certainly doesn't help that if Mozgus had survived, he'd have witnessed Griffith's rebirth and with it, him flying off on the back of a black-winged demon.

I can imagine him re-emerging at Vritannis, following the Pontiff until the final battle with Ganishka, questioning everything that happens at that point and eventually leaving with Rickert.

Of course, all this assumes that Griffith doesn't spare any time to try and bring him into the fold, which might work, or might be futile against Mozgus' indomitable will.

Mozgus was a small man and a hypocrite whose life revolved around hurting powerless people. You seem to wildly overestimate pretty much everything about him: his integrity, courage, intelligence, strength of will, etc. The idea that he could have teamed up with Rickert, the Bakiraka and Daiba is absurd.