Casca doesn't remember IT?

puella

Berserk forever
When Casca gets almost raped by the thugs, she recalls, in her subconciousness, the apostles teasing her in the eclipse but not Femto.
I wonder if she totally can't remember what Femto did to her in the eclipse.
She cries at Griffith on the hill of swords, which makes me assume a few things.

If she recalls that, then what will happen to her and Griffith?
Even if she remembers the rape, she might not relate it with Griffith., IMO. What do you think?

and here's another question, yeah I once asked this long time ago but didn't get enough replies.
Was Casca raped by apostles before Femto? or just teased? ::)
 

Lliugusamui

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i'd say
apostles-> soft rape (cries), femto->hard rape (gets insane)

i think she doesnt remember femto clearly but when meeting griffith at Godo's mine, she must have felt 'something' without understanding what it was about ...

Guil
 
puella said:
She cries at Griffith on the hill of swords, which makes me assume a few things.

If she recalls that, then what will happen to her and Griffith?

She might tried to assasinate Griffith if she had a weapon, or at least slapped Griffith face for what he had done!

puella said:
Was Casca raped by apostles before Femto? or just teased? ::)

Based on the manga, Femto appeared before Apostle had the time to rape her, so i guess that she had been tease instead!
 

Lliugusamui

around the corner
A.S said:
She might tried to assasinate Griffith if she had a weapon, or at least slapped Griffith face for what he had done!Based on the manga, Femto appeared before Apostle had the time to rape her, so i guess that she had been tease instead!
She might have cried because of realizing who had become her child, I mean her love and her hatred being united in the same body, feeling pain and pleasure from it etc, touigh thing for her i suppose
Guil
 

puella

Berserk forever
A.S said:
Based on the manga, Femto appeared before Apostle had the time to rape her, so i guess that she had been tease instead!

Based on the manga, wasn't it AFTER? ::)
 

Dark Wanderer

I'm evil :p
puella said:
and here's another question, yeah I once asked this long time ago but didn't get enough replies.
Was Casca raped by apostles before Femto? or just teased? ::)

Well, as far as I know, she was just "teased"... But, since she admired Griffith, and wouldn't want to think him capable of doing such a thing to her, she might have buried those memories of him raping her deeper in her than the rest of her memories from the eclipse, and thus, we've so far only seen those memories. However, I wonder if the memories of Griffith/Femto raping her would actually resurface if she was actually raped? After all, she has avoided that fate many times so far...
 
puella said:
Based on the manga, wasn't it AFTER? ::)

LOL! The monster only strip her and tease her, and when she was about to get raped, The new Femto had reborn and all apostles stopped their activities!

Btw, which apostles dare to rape his master's mistress? ::)
 

Nadiaska

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I admit that I also thought already about these events, but the truth is that is very difficult to give a convincing answer. ??? For me, I think Caska doesn't get to remind of the demon Femto as being Griffith, that person that she loved. You know, in it eclipses she didn't have time of to know that really happened with him and the things happened very fast for her to imagine that Femto was Griffith. Therefore I think the reason for her to have if excited when saw Griffith, why was somewhere in your mind she recognized the man that she admired.
With relationship to the demons of the eclipse, it happened the inverse than I said on Femto, or be she was full aware that was in a place similar to the hell struggling against demons to survive. I think when Caska was attacked by them, she must have lost her tempers and the demons just "played" with her but there was not rape on the part of them. :)
 

puella

Berserk forever
A.S said:
LOL! The monster only strip her and tease her, and when she was about to get raped, The new Femto had reborn and all apostles stopped their activities!

OK, I see your point about BEFORE.
You mean they had time to tease but not to rape?
And I think there was some time passing,seeing Casca a bit unconcious when Femto touched her.
Not that I think the apostles raped her,I'd say it's just unsure thing.

Btw, which apostles dare to rape his master's mistress? ::)

Oh, apostles observed their 'rule' according to their rank?
Besides, they already knew Femto would rape Casca?
Mistress? huh! :eek:

What makes me ponder on this is Miura often has showed us Casca surrounded by apostles in the eclipse.
Not Femto's rape. Isn't it a bit odd?
 

kimchan

"Should I be overcome by the vapors?
I don't know, to me it looked more like a tease. At some points, it almost looked like the apostles were just trying to piss Guts off, although I doubt that was what they were actually doing. ^^;

Anyhow, like Nadiaska mentioned, maybe Casca never quite made the connection between Femto and Griffith. Maybe since there was so much confusion and everything was happening so fast, she never really understood that Femto was Griffith.
 

puella

Berserk forever
kimchan said:
Anyhow, like Nadiaska mentioned, maybe Casca never quite made the connection between Femto and Griffith. Maybe since there was so much confusion and everything was happening so fast, she never really understood that Femto was Griffith.

We saw Casca saying "Gri....(Griffith)" when Femto touched her.
She was half-unconcious, I think and it doesn't necessarily mean she was sure Femto was Griffith.
But it also gives me some possibility she may be able to realize Femto was Griffith in the eclipse even if she noticed it for a moment but got to forget it all as she got insane. In her subconciousness.
 
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Genn21

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Griffith truly did bang her brains out. ( guess thats a side effect of being busted by a arch demon ) The apostles just teased her...erm softcore stuff for all you porn fans. Griffith did the real mental damage or should i say Gut's to. griff rapeing her afterall infront of him. It's more likely a secluded memory here mind hides in it's darkest deepest receses never to shine light upon it except by some mistake or feeling of a shared experiance which may unlock it. Yet this momeory plus all those other eclipse stuff caused this. I think untill she truly gets it out and discusses it she will be as cookoo from the mind rott of her hideing the memory there from her conscious.
 

SexyCharlotte

All those who wander are not always lost
Caska remembered reborn Griffith when she saw him because that was the person she really looked up to, and his very appearance was enough to jolt back the memory of his name...

But I think if he had come as Femto, she would have run in terror. That part of her buried in her subconscious memory is not dead...it is merely buried.I think to see Femto again would be disastrous.

LG
 

kimchan

"Should I be overcome by the vapors?
puella said:
We saw Casca saying "Gri....(Griffith)" when Femto touched her.
She was half-unconcious, I think and it doesn't necessarily mean she was sure Femto was Griffith.
But it also gives me some possibility she may be able to realize Femto was Griffith in the eclipse even if she noticed it for a moment but got to forget it all as she got insane. In her subconciousness.

Yeah, now that I looked at my translations, you're right. So maybe she did realize Femto was Griffith. I guess it's possible that her mind's buried everything so deeply, that the apostles are about all she remembers. I don't know, it's hard to say. ^^;;;;
 

SexyCharlotte

All those who wander are not always lost
A.S said:
I think that will shock her so much that she will regain all her sanity and memories!

Well, why don't we find out and maybe Griffith will cover his lovely hair with the ol Femto helmet?

LG
 

Miyu

I'm smiling on the inside.
It seems to me that Caska has the memory of her rape by Griffith hidden deep in her memory, but it doesn't mean that it won't ever resurface. We have seen her memories of the eclipse appear every now and then when her body is being threatened. Each scene she remembers is always a little different and seems to draw a bit closer and closer to when Femto eventually does rape her. When she evetually remembers Femto/Griffith raping her that may trigger her memories to resurface, but mentally, I don't think she wants to remember.
 
Miyu said:
Each scene she remembers is always a little different and seems to draw a bit closer and closer to when Femto eventually does rape her.

Wow, I didnt noticed that! That was indeed a good speculation!
 

Graywords

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Caska remembered reborn Griffith when she saw him because that was the person she really looked up to, and his very appearance was enough to jolt back the memory of his name...

Actually, it seems to me that Casca's motherly instinct recognized Griffith as being her child (that is, the distorted embryo that became the new Griffith's body). I truly don't believe that she recognized Griffith as a person.

But I think if he had come as Femto, she would have run in terror. That part of her buried in her subconscious memory is not dead...it is merely buried.I think to see Femto again would be disastrous.

Who knows whether seeing Femto would've triggered anything... I mean, seeing Guts didn't, and just *seeing* any apostles didn't... and from what I could tell, seeing Griffith didn't really bring back any pre-eclipse memories either. All I know is that her chest would've bled like a broken faucet. ^_^;
 

Miyu

I'm smiling on the inside.
Unfortunatly, I think the only way for Caska to remember being raped is to get . . . raped. -_-
With a traumatic event like that, it wouldn't surprise me if she never remembered.
 

puella

Berserk forever
Miyu said:
Unfortunatly, I think the only way for Caska to remember being raped is to get . . . raped. -_-
With a traumatic event like that, it wouldn't surprise me if she never remembered.

Good, how about this one?
She gets to remember it little by little as she is in danger of being raped every 5chapters as usual. ::)
 

Lliugusamui

around the corner
puella said:
Good, how about this one?
She gets to remember it little by little as she is in danger of being raped every 5chapters as usual. ::)
Guts may be her saviour after raping her, leaded by his Beast/curse armor whetever now we'll see...
Guil
 

SexyCharlotte

All those who wander are not always lost
Caska's buried a great deal inside her. Insanity is the protecting shield for now. Even though she ran to Griffith MF reborn I don't think she ran to him because she was 'still in love'...he was always very recognizable with his looks and aura, even to someone insane...a part of her remembered him as the old leader of the Hawks she once loved and admired long ago.

I can see Guts' frustration...she's a burden he has to bear now and yet another tragedy that seems to be a constant part of his life. But I'm hopeful she'll regain her sanity somehow...though she'll struggle inside with her own spiritual and mental battles for a long time. She'll be the key to helping to destroy Griffith the MF. I'm rooting for her.
100%.

LG
 
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