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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2003, 10:59:01 AM »
HoD, the story can't stay the same forever. That's like saying "I thought the story was better before they jumped waaaay back into the Band of the Hawk period), "The story went downhill the moment they added any supernatural elements", "Having Guts babysit Casca, Isidro and the gang is just ghey" etc. Miura has a history of making quite radical changes in the plot, if not the entire theme of the story and I for one am eager to see what he'll do next.

Just have faith in the man, he's done good enough so far. :)

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2003, 11:00:23 AM »
hey (to figth a monster u must become one)

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« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2003, 11:21:21 AM »
I for one am eager to see what he'll do next.

Just have faith in the man, he's done good enough so far. :)

One thing i like about Miura, he had never disappointed his fans be4, Never!  :D
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« Reply #103 on: August 11, 2003, 11:32:47 AM »
I don't see why we should be worrying about Guts becoming invincible, it's not like he'll be able to wear it for long... But if he puts on this kind of display everytime he wear the armor, I'll be satisfied.  ;D

Thanks for the scans Saiyajin.  ;D

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2003, 12:59:21 PM »
It looks to me like Slan's wound is more responsible for Guts current "unconscious" fighting state than the armor itself (although it's difficult to tell without translations). The armor is definitely exacerbating the wound (feeding off his "spirit" maybe?).

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« Reply #105 on: August 11, 2003, 01:07:54 PM »
WoW this chapter really ROCKS dude I first watch it at work couldn't stop shouting of exitment with every page I hope they don't fire me because of today  ::)

many thanks Sayajin I love u  :-X
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #106 on: August 11, 2003, 02:23:44 PM »
THANK YOU Ouji, I can die happy now!!! (well, sort of.)  ;D ;D ;D

P.S: After going through those scans, I m begining to believe Grunbeld is an apostle, base on the fearsome expression of him while he was fighting Guts.

You've just now come to that conclusion?  Of course many normal humans have pointed teeth and reptilian eyes, not to mention that they're usually giants.

I will probably get chewed out... but, I think it was better before when Guts was defying all odds as a normal human, taking on apostles and all other things.  Now the story seems to be going in a Lord of the Rings direction and guts seems barely human anymore.  But who knows, it might end up turning out for the best, I hope.

We've never heard that one before.   ::)
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2003, 02:29:20 PM »
So... anyone else notice that Miura didn't even pay lip service to Guts  pulling the cord to activate the cannon?  I've always thought that being in another layer of reality (can't remember which one exactly right now, the nexus?)  was giving him more and more subconscious and unnoticed control over the cannon arm,  but now it looks like he may have absolute control over it.



or I could just be missing the cord  :P
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« Reply #108 on: August 11, 2003, 02:39:12 PM »
So... anyone else notice that Miura didn't even pay lip service to Guts  pulling the cord to activate the cannon?  I've always thought that being in another layer of reality (can't remember which one exactly right now, the nexus?)  was giving him more and more subconscious and unnoticed control over the cannon arm,  but now it looks like he may have absolute control over it.



or I could just be missing the cord  :P

I'm just glad that it's still there. ^_^

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #109 on: August 11, 2003, 02:56:42 PM »
Wonder if we will see Guts biting things with his new wolf mouth now too.  On page 18 its closed and in other pics its open so it seems he has control over opening and closing it.


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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2003, 03:01:23 PM »
Great news guys!

I LOVE the armor now!  ;D
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #111 on: August 11, 2003, 03:11:33 PM »
Holy shit, Groenveld is terrified.

Of course, being me, I have to complain. I think the helmet looks a little too tacky as is, more like a shark or something. I guess I just imagined something a little more streamlined.

Still though, badass chapter. I especialy love the way his arm cannon works now. Through the fucking palm.
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #112 on: August 11, 2003, 03:12:43 PM »
Wonder if we will see Guts biting things with his new wolf mouth now too.  On page 18 its closed and in other pics its open so it seems he has control over opening and closing it.


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SOMEONE has control over it,  but I doubt it is Guts
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #113 on: August 11, 2003, 03:23:50 PM »
It's possible that guts has total control of his arm cannon, especially seeing how the hand of the armor opens, seems he controls his fake arm like it was true...

I have the impression that guts is not totally "unconsious", because his repeated attacks seem, to me, a way to shorten the fight (he bleeds so much...).
Obviously, without traduction of the dialogues these are only speculations (i dont know anything about japanese language :-\

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2003, 03:36:28 PM »
Quite interesting chapter! "The armor of the insane/mad warrior" is a fitting name for the armor, indeed...
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2003, 03:38:13 PM »
It looks to me like Slan's wound is more responsible for Guts current "unconscious" fighting state than the armor itself (although it's difficult to tell without translations). The armor is definitely exacerbating the wound (feeding off his "spirit" maybe?).

You've got a great point there.  Its obvious with pages 6-8 that the drawing of the wound becomes the eye of the beast.  I'm wondering whats going on with all the images shown of Guts inside his body.  Considering how Guts, with pucks help, has been able to recover from all sorts of wounds night and day, this must be something pretty horrendous.  

One would almost think that he's going to die either way and having the armor gives him a chance to take some muthas down before he's a goner.  I doubt that Miura is going to kill Guts, but its going to take something major for him to recover.  

Anyone think that Grunbeld's eyes are starting to look more lizard-like in this chapter? hehehehe
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #116 on: August 11, 2003, 03:42:15 PM »
Anyone think that Grunbeld's eyes are starting to look more lizard-like in this chapter? hehehehe

Well, thinking about how Guts has proven to be a quite a lot for Grunbeld's human form to handle, it wouldn*t surpise me if he decides that it's time to transform into his apostle-form soon...
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« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2003, 04:47:49 PM »
Im starting to wonder , the closer to death a person gets the more the armor can become or mimic the users inner feelings ? aka.. the shape of the beast.

I think guts has a couple more gallons before he goes down for the count tho... in previous chapters i remember where he spewed like a hose. Yet he has been injured for a while now tho. Who knows how hes going to recover from this ordeal. MEDIC !
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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #118 on: August 11, 2003, 04:56:07 PM »
I think guts has a couple more gallons before he goes down for the count tho... in previous chapters i remember where he spewed like a hose. Yet he has been injured for a while now tho. Who knows how hes going to recover from this ordeal. MEDIC !

Ya he has spewed blood Mortal Kombat style many times before.  Its just crazy to see the armor dripping with blood.  Don't you think that would make a kickass color cover for the next volume?  Guts in beast armor with blood dripping out of the plates in the armor.
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« Reply #119 on: August 11, 2003, 05:15:52 PM »
lol with all the debate over what color SKs armor is im a bit surprised that nobody has made claim that its oil comming out of the armor and not blood =P


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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #120 on: August 11, 2003, 06:04:45 PM »
Of course, being me, I have to complain. I think the helmet looks a little too tacky as is, more like a shark or something. I guess I just imagined something a little more streamlined.

I know what you mean, itís on the borderline of totally badass and ďhmmmmÖ..Ē

I donít mind the shark aspect since Iíve always thought the Beast looked like a Wolf/Shark combination. But yeah, the helmet model seems a bit raw; there are panels where itís awesome, and panels where he looks computer generated or something. ;) But I think old Groenveld looked tacky in a lot of his early shots, but heís been nothing short of awesome in the last few chapters. When Miura gets more accustomed to the new armor, holy shit will it be badass.



Guts old armor was a tad tacky at first as well. Actually, looks sort of like a little beast... =)

Iím looking forward to seeing how it will evolve; it sounds like Iím down on it, but I think it looks great, I just also think it's going to really blow us away down the line.

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2003, 06:34:07 PM »
Wonder if we will see Guts biting things with his new wolf mouth now too.  On page 18 its closed and in other pics its open so it seems he has control over opening and closing it.

I think that the upper part of the jaw is on the helm and the lower part on the body of the armor.



Knowing somebody who smith armor, I assure you that this kind of thing can be done, are really pretty BUT awfully difficult to wear and use... (And yes I do have a small set of armor myself)

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2003, 06:37:37 PM »
Well also, since the armor don't look like this, I suppose this image was a fake?

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2003, 07:01:06 PM »
Well also, since the armor don't look like this, I suppose this image was a fake?

Yes, its a fake.  Read through current chapters topics from the last few weeks.  Its actually an incredibly lucky guess.  I thought maybe Olivier was joking when he gave this chapter description.

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Re:Episode 226
« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2003, 07:09:37 PM »
Run Grunbeld run.
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