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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2003, 09:31:37 PM »
i dont see why it's retarded to discuss the level of power of characters in Berserk and their evolution. We still dont know if the other apostles are stronger than Grunbeld and Zodd. What is interesting is that Guts is becoming a lot stronger (still have to see how it turns out with his wounds and if he'll keep the armor)... maybe still no match for GodHand but getting pretty close.... very exciting.
i really like how everything turns out. Miura is a genius. ^_^

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2003, 12:49:39 AM »
Well, you guys really think Guts will keep wearing that dangerous armor? ::)
If so, will Schierke find somethig good/helpful for Guts' armor?
Or will Guts himself get to have some power/ability to control the armor?

wondering so much...

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2003, 02:46:57 AM »
His little monologue in Volume 17 might give you kids some insight, if you'd bother reading it.

Those Apostle are nothing, they (creatures shown in vol 17 when Zodd was thinking at the USO) are not much different from those apostle who was turn into ape shit by Guts in 226...

Zodd and Grunbeld are very different apostles, they are in fact considered one of the most powerful category among those monster, perhap also the most respected ones and they do bidding directly from the god (unlike the rest who just kill and eat human for the sake of fun)

Personally i still feel that Grunbeld is nearly or as strong as Zodd himself (Zodd minotaur form is specifically design for fighting, i dun think dragon form is anyway behind it)...


P.S: Back to the fight between Guts and Grunbeld, do u think the DS, by slashing off the tail, would have any harmful effect on Grunbeld... (since the sword is called Dragon Slayer)
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2003, 03:06:03 AM »
must...ruin...thread!!!

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2003, 04:09:48 AM »
Those Apostle are nothing, they (creatures shown in vol 17 when Zodd was thinking at the USO) are not much different from those apostle who was turn into ape shit by Guts in 226...


Isn't that a little presumptuous? What Zodd said was very clear about his statement -- he did not make distinctions about the "different levels" of Apostles. He did not find satisfaction with apostles.  

Zodd and Grunbeld are very different apostles, they are in fact considered one of the most powerful category among those monster, perhap also the most respected ones and they do bidding directly from the god (unlike the rest who just kill and eat human for the sake of fun)

Once again, i wonder at your reasoning. Does it appear to you that "not enjoying human flesh" is a trait of strength? The beherit apostle doesn't eat flesh, has self-control. Do you think he's one of the most respected apsotles and do bidding directly from the GH?

I don't think i could trust Miura's work so far to tell you that you're wrong. But this whole Zodd vs Grunbeld business really ought to be discussed at character cove instead of here. If you still persist with your opinion, why don't you take it there?
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2003, 05:23:09 AM »
Well, you guys really think Guts will keep wearing that dangerous armor? ::)
If so, will Schierke find somethig good/helpful for Guts' armor?
Or will Guts himself get to have some power/ability to control the armor?

wondering so much...

psssh pui pui &^^,, obviously the mans got to learn to control his temper tantrums and there beasty manner or itl break him down literally. I believe flora was'nt telling Schierke to get his armor under controll ( his od ) as a final option ... it seems like it might be a actual sencible approach. but who knows my crystal balls is shined by lachadan.

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2003, 05:41:05 AM »
Here is another translation from another guy :

The 227th talk and 火竜   (8/22 sale, bell SERUKU of No. 17) Driven-in GURUMBERUDO flings up 戦槌 and releases a blow of 渾身. Guts swings down a sword in accordance with a motion of 戦槌. 戦槌 which receive, and pass and bends by delivering an attack. Guts swings down a sword to between hair ON れず GURUMBERUDO. There is also no way to defend and a sword eats into the shoulder of GURUMBERUDO. "Brilliant! ... this one horseman -- shooting --   It is the victory of you! " "-- but --   here -- the point -- my mission ... Since [ my ] it is main   As the apostle of the hawk of light! Partner 仕る! " GURUMBERUDO which disguises itself. The figure was a dragon (dragon). as "apostle -- receiving -- carrying out --   -- use this power A black swordsman is buried!" GURUMBERUDO devises an attack by the tail. Guts catches it from the front. "Man!? A stop free!? ... an apostle's attack ..." -- the bone of the leg of guts breaks then Although it becomes that it is likely to collapse, a posture is maintained and the face of GURUMBERUDO which has gone is poked with a sword. But, GURUMBERUDO rushes without flinching from and blows away guts. The crack was contained in the skin of GURUMBERUDO which is proud of 堅牢 more than steel. Guts which rises. But, the left hand was dragged a 捻じ bend and the broken leg intricately and needed. Then, armor pierces through the meat of guts and reinforces the hand and foot which ate to the bone and broke. Whenever armor moves, blood blows off from the body of guts. SHIRUKE which was looking at it is told to Isidro and others. "-- the owner of that former armor needs to make [   ] the tooth of steel eat into the whole body -- all bones -- breaking --   --" Isidro it is heard that it continued fighting and died until all blood blows off -- why -- being such -- being also alike -- SHIRUKE will be blamed if guts was dressed with the dangerous thing SHIRUKE does not understand the real intention of a flora ordered so that armor might be passed to guts, either. The voice of a flora reaches SHIRUKE then. "-- the swordsman [   ] in the turbulent flow of that power --" you indicate a way to be

The following, comment. although surely armor pulls out own power of guts, the power should arrive at ordinary human being -- it is in the domain which is not That is, it is the power which will not be acquired however it may do its best in front guts. Is this what may be easily considered to be the upgrade of guts? Although the admiration which felt easy about the front number was strong and has not noticed ... This risk cannot be easy to bear although it is too cruel to pierce through and reinforce meat. Is that it was not in sight with the figure appropriate for the apostle in which GURUMBERUDO disguised itselves because it was a dragon as an image? I wanted you to disguise myself, without leaving people's portion like ZODDO. Since he will have a feeling on which are parasitic if it remains ... That the former owner was makes the armor of 狂戦士 clear. Signs that a form is suitably changed after having and siding with the main mind, if the guts of a front number is seen. It had the form of 髑髏, before dressing guts. Probably a former owner regards as the knight of 髑髏 and is almost infallible. however, there is that only ... and this have the utterance of a pack and others in another dimension although the body of guts is dangerous a feeling of a physical disorder truly

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2003, 06:19:54 AM »
a all combat issue it seems :
Title:"The Fire Dragon"  or "the story of the fire dragon"

after an excange of blows, Guts strikes with his sword the shoulder of Grunbeld , that is not able to defend himself and he apparently admires Guts for that and say something like:" Brilliant  this is the way a horseman (Knight) fight (or at least this what I think he is telling )You win ! But I have a mission from the Hawk of Light". He, then, changes in a dragon. Then he strikes with its tail and Guts receive the strike. A bone of one of Guts legs  breaks. He is able, however, to keep his guard and he pokes Grunbeld face.This doesn't  stop Grunbeld that rushes in and blows away Guts. Apparently the skin of Grunbeld protected him from Guts previous strike and he is proud (I don't understand if he his proud of his skin or Guts like a adversary). Apparently the armor pierces Guts meat and reinforces the bone that was broken (Style the adamantium in Wolverine bones I guess  ;D )when the armor moves, blood flows off from the body of Guts. Schierke tells  Isidro and the others that the owner of the former armor (or it is the contrary: the previous owner of the armor needed to have the  "toth" of the armor embedded in his body because his bones were broken?) had the tooth of armor embedded in his meat because of the broken bones. Isidro tells that if Guts continues fighting he will die from the loss of blood and blames Schierke because she has let Guts wear such a dangerous thing. Schierke doesn't understand Flora intentions either. Then, the voice of Flora reach Schierke  telling her that Guts is in a maelstorm of power and she has to indicate him a way to ride it.

P.s. It seems that Grunbeld take pride of his skin tough like steel
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2003, 06:32:09 AM »
The beherit apostle doesn't eat flesh

 :o

Wow! I wonder what is he doing to the row of dead bodies when Sk first met him...

Do you think he's one of the most respected apsotles and do bidding directly from the GH?

Look like u didnt read my post carefully...  ::)

Perhap also the most respected ones and they do bidding directly from the god

Do u understand the meaning of the bold word or should i further elaborate for u? I do not put that word for no reason
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2003, 06:57:18 AM »
Apparently the armor pierce Guts meat and reinforce the bone that was broken (Style the adamantium in Wolverine bones I guess  

I obviously am just guessing, but I assume it's much simpler than that. When you break a bone badly enough they might have to hold it together with a metal plate secured in place by metal pins. I'm assuming the armor is just sticking 'pins' in his leg to hold the bone in place.

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2003, 07:20:34 AM »
:o

Look like u didnt read my post carefully...  ::)Do u understand the meaning of the bold word or should i further elaborate for u? I do not put that word for no reason

the use of "perhaps" implies some sort of affirmation on your part -- otherwise your statement is rather pointless as a speculation. my apologies if i fail to comprehend whatever you are trying to say.

but seriously, take this discussion somewhere else.

btw, i don't recall (my memories are dim, however) the beherit aposlte eating people at all; i've always thought the corpses are there because people dump them there.

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2003, 07:39:21 AM »
the use of "perhaps" implies some sort of affirmation on your part

Well, the only affirmation i implied was that both of them belong to the category of the most powerful apostles. On the other hand, about being the most respected and do bidding from the god, are just purely speculation from the minute evidences i can gather  :)

btw, i don't recall (my memories are dim, however) the beherit aposlte eating people at all; i've always thought the corpses are there because people dump them there.

Well, he was shorta of eating the bodies. But once again, i m not sure of myself either   :-X



Btw, i apologise of i had offend u in any way, the last statement from my previous post sound rather rude...  :P
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2003, 08:18:25 AM »
...well since this topic is already down the sink:

didnt Guts catch zodd eating people on their first encounter?

i cant really remember but i think he walked in and zodd had someone in his hands either crushing him or biting him  :P
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2003, 11:26:18 AM »
Wow! I wonder what is he doing to the row of dead bodies when Sk first met him...
Not eating them.

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2003, 11:26:18 AM »
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didnt Guts catch zodd eating people on their first encounter?

i cant really remember but i think he walked in and zodd had someone in his hands either crushing him or biting him  
nope he had a couple of soldiers impaled in his sword but he did bite a few when he was figthing them in apostle form

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2003, 03:20:06 PM »
Then, the voice of Flora reach Schierke  telling her that Guts is in a maelstorm of power and she has to indicate him a way to ride it.

sweet two points for the Gennerator !!!!!

I knew lachnadan was going good on something there.

Man this is the final option of Schierke now. Maybe well see guts hit some dragon flesh , instead of a pine box. ( readies popcorn and porn mag's , chpt 228 hoeeee )
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2003, 04:56:46 PM »
"The prickle extended inside armor pierces through, corrects and reinforces meat and a bone, and continues fighting still more"


Hmmm is anyone else mildly disturbed by this? Guts fusing with his armor?  :P  

(nevermind, I see it has been answered)


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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2003, 07:12:36 PM »
Christ this topic sucks where are the scans?

Well aren't we demanding?

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2003, 09:55:41 PM »
I've got a great idea! How about we start this topic again?

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2003, 11:51:32 PM »
Anybody think that Guts is going to die and be reborn like Griffith?

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #70 on: August 24, 2003, 12:13:35 AM »
Anybody think that Guts is going to die and be reborn like Griffith?

Anybody think that Guts is going to be tortured for a year like Griffith?

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2003, 01:03:14 AM »
Probably not.  I was just throwing out ideas.  It's a good one.  Heheh.  I don't see how he can live now anyway, but you can't just kill off the main character.

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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2003, 01:34:57 AM »
Anybody think that Guts is going to be tortured for a year like Griffith?
if you think about it he alreddy is being tortured!
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2003, 01:42:19 AM »
Anybody think that Guts is going to be tortured for a year like Griffith?

I guess this is what happen if he got captured by Griffith  ::)
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Re:Chapter 227
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2003, 02:05:04 AM »
He'd probably get raped too.