I believe one page is missing, between 11 and 12...
Episode 238
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DarkShurikn
Meiyo
Page 12 is unavailable to see if we go with the html page link... page not found...Olivier Hague said:
I also think there's a page missing, bcz at the beginning of the page 12 trans .... something's not fitting. Or maybe the link between page 11 and 12 is just shitty, but i don't think so, Miura's not used to do that kind of mistakes.
Caska is more beautyfull than she ever was...
Thanks for the scans !!
I hope that boy is not "evil", Caska being cured and Guts showing feelings about that boy, the boy not being evil, those 3 things would make an awesome plot in my opinion... but I think it's impossible to go that way... because i think Griffith is right about this :
Griffith said:
xechnao said:
As long as i know, Caska had sex only one time and it was with Guts (she told him it was her first time) so it's kind of hard to have more then one child except for twins if you had sex only once...
Have you people noticed th elower part of the armor in page 17 ? looks like the lower part of The Beast's mouth ..
By the way, for the zip file, I had an error when only clicking on the link.. i had to right click the save as..
What is Ivarella is talking about with this line : "Ivarella - Hey Scherkie! You get in there too! Take some! It's strategic love!" ?
DarkBlademaster
Jesus cries when he looks at me.
Interesting chapter.... Anyone notice Caska, who is usually having to be fed herself, is actully sane enough now to take care and feed someone else?
Saeki said:
Yeah that was my impression also. As if the child knew where Guts brand was and was checking it. That child may be too good to be true.
roberto999
The Black Chick of Darkness
Ditto. Pag.17: or he is going for the mark or he is trying to tear away the armor (remember that it protects Guts from the spirits )ZODDGUTS said:
Also it can be a coincidence , but while Casca tears him away from Guts, in the last panel of the page, we see under him, Guts throwing knives. A omen perhaps ?
And the monster in the last page is shown like if he is waiting for something.
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
roberto999 said:
The brand is on the other side and he showed no interest in it, he just grabbed on to the armor. I don’t think he intended to rip it off Guts body. ^^; Since armor was Isidro’s rationalization for why this strange child would be hanging on the big guy, I'm even more certain that the child’s interest was purely in Guts.
^Déjà vu, I totally had a dream of typing the above message months ago. I remember feeling confused because why the hell was I talking about a child hanging on Guts? Creepy. =)
roberto999 said:
Maybe so, but I think the omen at the time was dropping children on knives is bad parenting.
roberto999 said:
What’s the difference between being shown like you’re waiting for something and being shown like you’re not waiting for something? And I guess we’re all waiting for some kind of stimuli at any given moment. I think he’s reading the text box below him and waiting for the next chapter so he can do something.
I’m all for the kid being more sinister than he appears (which is pretty shady, despite he’s disarming cuteness), but I'm not really seeing it yet in the story itself. I think the kid/croc connection is a little weak sauce... but we'll see. =)
-Griffith
roberto999
The Black Chick of Darkness
The difference is that the monster is shown on the sea,far away from the hut were our heroes sleep. So he is not a immediate menace. Simply Miura wanted to show that someone or something else was in the big picture.Griffith said:
LordofMasks
Masks???...yeah, Masks...!!!
This Chapter looks great...again those Crocodile Monsters...By the way...does someone have the translation for 237 or 238...my Japanese is not helping me much...Thanks ;D 8) 8)
lordofmasks
lordofmasks
Actually, when I said "I believe", it was just to be polite. One page is missing between 11 and 12. ^^;Shurikn said:
Dark Wanderer
I'm evil :p
*looks at page 16-18*......... Well, I'll be damned ;D. Very nice to see, but cute as it is, one cannot help but wonder what that child may really be.. ^^;;. I think that of all possible events, plot twist and vice versa, this one must have been the most unexpected one.....
Griffith said:
Hey, child's don't have to be ethereal to do such a thing. Childs have the power to force people together (sometimes) ;)
Anyway, I believe it is ethereal indeed by what Shielke said and by the ocean thing and Caska's ominous looks in her eyes. Only I can't be sure it's the demon child or Gut's son or even having something to do with Griffith.
What do you mean by "evil"? Corrupted by GH or something?Shurikn said:
Shurikn said:
So what? The fact that this boy came to life as Caska's desire for her last son(the one he made with Guts') does'nt necessarily mean that this boy is Guts' son. It is a spirit that came to life by Caska's desire for her lost baby. That's the way I see it although I don't exclude it, to eventually be Guts' son -that would depend mostly how Caska's desire "ellabored" that part ;D.
Griffith said:
I can't give in for now. Besides the kid's traits seem just as if it has sprung off from Caska and that's it. Anyway the demon child got consumed in Griffith (feellings also: remember the heart pumping?).
Anyway, it could eventually be the demon child. But I don't believe we can say for now.
Anyway what does it matter if this boy could also be loved by Caska (and Guts ? ??? ?)and rise up like a real boy? But do you believe this is the case? Do you believe he has the potential growing up and mating with a human female and having his own children or is he more something spiritual, like an elf or spirit?
If the first case is true, I don't believe it matters if it is the demon child or not or whatever.
Griffith
With the streak of a tear, Like morning dew
I don’t deny the plausibility that this boy has nothing directly to do with the demon child. But I think that it’s a weaker theory and should be considered second. Like the dictionary; =)
Moonlight Boy
1. An ethereal projection of the demon child’s soul drawn
by Casca’s desire and the child's will.
2. Casca can conjure children out of thin air. (WDT 1) ;D
Working with what we know, it just makes a little more sense when you throw in the demon child and the mysterious power of God and all that mucky ethereal goodness. Also, if you look at how he interacts with Guts, it’s almost as if they have history together. Combine this with the parallels of the moon, the rebirth… pages 20 and 21, and it all paints a more compelling picture than just the child simply being a manifestation of Casca’s desire alone. While that’s still a likely scenario, why give priority to it over a theory with more weight behind it?
-Griffith
Moonlight Boy
1. An ethereal projection of the demon child’s soul drawn
by Casca’s desire and the child's will.
2. Casca can conjure children out of thin air. (WDT 1) ;D
Working with what we know, it just makes a little more sense when you throw in the demon child and the mysterious power of God and all that mucky ethereal goodness. Also, if you look at how he interacts with Guts, it’s almost as if they have history together. Combine this with the parallels of the moon, the rebirth… pages 20 and 21, and it all paints a more compelling picture than just the child simply being a manifestation of Casca’s desire alone. While that’s still a likely scenario, why give priority to it over a theory with more weight behind it?
-Griffith
Griffith said:
Yeah, I hope you are right. I don't like the second option (hence I expressed a dislike about it before paralleling it to Troll haters: too much fantasy)
Anyway, this is mostly why I talked about it, kinda disturbed by the chance this might be the case.
I am with you Griffith ;)
But what I thought against this one is why right now and only at the ocean? Why not before, for example in the forest or at Godo's? Did Caska really not have the chance or case of strongly desiring her lost son before seeing the ocean? I mean, if there is an actual connection of both ends they could have met before, right (take for example Qlipoth where trolls and villagers around the forest met)?
Lliugusamui
around the corner
First thank you for this beautiful chapter.
I wonder if you have also noticed about this child, he reminds me a lot of little Kojiro Sasaki in Vagabond : he's been found near the ocean, naked, he has long pretty dark hair, he doesn't say a word...
Btw, is he mute or something ? Do you think - if it's the demon baby indeed - that he will keep on "talking" with his mind to his parents ? It seems he puts all his expression in his gaze.
Guil
ps : excuse me if you feel offended for the vagabond parallel ::)
I wonder if you have also noticed about this child, he reminds me a lot of little Kojiro Sasaki in Vagabond : he's been found near the ocean, naked, he has long pretty dark hair, he doesn't say a word...
Btw, is he mute or something ? Do you think - if it's the demon baby indeed - that he will keep on "talking" with his mind to his parents ? It seems he puts all his expression in his gaze.
Guil
ps : excuse me if you feel offended for the vagabond parallel ::)
I thought the exact same thing, so...Guil-BANNED! said:
Thats not totally true, his the color of Guts, and his eyebrows are pretty thick for a kids. The hair basically looks like Caska's though Guts and caska have fairly similar hair color (aside the white bit I suppose).
It seems these new facial scars/marks on Guts havent faded at all since he took off the berserker armor, must be part of the new appearance to go with the white spot of hair.
It seems these new facial scars/marks on Guts havent faded at all since he took off the berserker armor, must be part of the new appearance to go with the white spot of hair.
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