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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #100 on: April 22, 2004, 01:51:10 AM »
familiars... reminds me of ganks' elephants. This might be proof that there will be a showdown of the kushan and Guts in elfhelm  ;D
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #101 on: April 22, 2004, 03:38:18 AM »
familiars... reminds me of ganks' elephants. This might be proof that there will be a showdown of the kushan and Guts in elfhelm  ;D

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #102 on: April 22, 2004, 03:53:50 PM »
i think that the monster in the water at the end of chp. 238 was a kelpie, if so, Guts and co are in deep S**t, i mean they are by the sea.

familiar? im not sure what that means, it probably has some really unexpected meaning.

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #103 on: April 22, 2004, 03:57:25 PM »
familiar? im not sure what that means

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #104 on: April 22, 2004, 04:40:27 PM »
i think that the monster in the water at the end of chp. 238 was a kelpie, if so, Guts and co are in deep S**t, i mean they are by the sea.

familiar? im not sure what that means, it probably has some really unexpected meaning.

Usually when Olivier tells us what happens in the chapter we stop speculating otherwise...

It's not Kelpies, it's crocodile (I guess alligator if you prefer) familiars. Familiars are usually demons that wizards and the like summon to do their bidding. In this case, and I'm assuming in the case of Ganishka, if there's even a difference, these were at one time real crocodiles that were transformed into demonic familiars using magic.

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #105 on: April 22, 2004, 04:49:54 PM »
I wonder if Ganishka is after the kid.

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #106 on: April 22, 2004, 05:03:26 PM »
Anybody seeing Shilat meeting with Guts before they reach Elfhelm?
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #107 on: April 22, 2004, 06:21:49 PM »
Nah. Eventually perhaps, but he's already caught up in Ganishka and Griffith affairs.

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #108 on: April 22, 2004, 07:16:57 PM »
Tomorrow will be one of my best days ever. A Berserk chapter release and my last exam.

I have a question about the preview.. someone said it was fire by the window.. i think it's the mist Olivier told us about, am i right ?
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #109 on: April 22, 2004, 07:17:52 PM »
I have a question about the preview.. someone said it was fire by the window.. i think it's the mist Olivier told us about, am i right ?
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #110 on: April 22, 2004, 07:44:17 PM »
Nah. Eventually perhaps, but he's already caught up in Ganishka and Griffith affairs.

Who is "he"? Silatt or Guts? =)

If these are indeed Ganishka's familiars, then it's just a hop, skip and a jump to conclude that Silatt is nearby. Perhaps even the intended target of these marauding reptiles. More points for Xechnao.

Anyway, what the hell is the deal with the familiars? Weíll explore this query and other possibilities in a segment Iím calling,

WHO LET THE CROCS OUT!?
There are two answers as I see it at this point:

I. Ganishka!

II. Not Ganishka.

Let's focus on number one first since it's actually tangible.

I. Okay, they're the same crocodile men as the one we saw in the Demon City chapter, belonging to Ganishka. If so, why? Why are they attacking Guts and company? Let's keep in mind while reading the possibilities below, that last we left the big foggy fella, he was short one princess, and nursing a huge pair of God-defying blue balls. So, he's probably super pissed, and possibly a little desperate.

1. Guts and Casca? Does Ganishka know about their connection to Griffith? Other Apostles know that they're Griffith's sacrifices, so he certainly could too. If so, what's he want with them? Does he think he can use them as some kind of leverage; hostages to replace his lost Princess? Or perhaps an alliance among enemies of God; just a friendly meeting at this point?

2. The Child. For some reason, Ganishka and his henchman are after the child. Does it have to do with the childís strange Od? Does Ganishka think/know there is a connection to God? Or does the kid's spirit simply smell like Griffith's so the crocs are following it? ;D

3. Coincidence. Guts and the gang just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. They are near Vritannis, Ganishka is pissed, and we know heís not a big fan of Midlandís native Griffith worshipping religion. So is he mounting a full assault, no holds barred, monsters and all, attack on the Holy See & itís allies, and a few familiars took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and found lunch on the beach? Or, perhaps the Ganish is taking out his anger on Silatt and friends for the failure back in the Captial, and Prince S happens to have fled right near Guts and company with a slew of crocodile assassins on his tail.

There are many other possibilities of course, but letís leave this for now, and focus on number two.

II. Okay, if itís not Ganishka or Ganishka related, then I can only conclude thatÖ


"there's somethinn' strange... in the neighborhooood..."
 

Another wizard that utilzes mist and crocodiles, I guess? =)

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #111 on: April 22, 2004, 07:59:26 PM »
Xech is on the ball. The fact that recently educated Silatt is being persued is a good idea. Maybe we all overlooked how precognitive he really can be :)

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #112 on: April 22, 2004, 08:40:03 PM »
hm, there IS the (remote) possibility that the child is a Daka gone wrong, and Ganishka wants him back for observation.

That said, he could just as well be guts' malformed child as well.

Remember chapter 233? the process of making a Daka involved  corrupting a human foetus with demonic SPIRITS. Assuming that Griffith "kicked out" the Demon Child's spirit out of its body  and right into the spectral realm, it's not impossible that he got caught in the processes of the Daka factory in Windham. Thus he was reborn and promptly pulled a houdini, fully aware that being around a sorcerer like Ganishka would be hazardous to his health.

it's just an idea, so i guess time (and the Hague) will prove me wrong...or right?

 

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #113 on: April 22, 2004, 10:15:21 PM »
Either that or maybe ganishka is testing Guts to see if he really is powerful enough to maybe form an alliance to kill their "common" enemy. Just my take, but things are getting good. Also, Uriel, good avatar!  ;D
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #114 on: April 23, 2004, 08:21:04 AM »
Ok, I was already thinking about that one and Grif is just going my way: maybe the kid is indeed Guts and Casca child somehow, and killing it may be a (the?) way to kill Griffith... May explain why crocs are here rather than kelpies... (even if indeed, those really looked like kelpies...)

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #115 on: April 23, 2004, 10:00:18 AM »
Wow... i havent been on board for quite a number of day, my internet was down  :'(

But then thanks as usual Mr Hague... For your short and straightforward summary

And yes i have a feeling that Guts band is gonna meet with Ganishka soon

3. Coincidence. Guts and the gang just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. They are near Vritannis, Ganishka is pissed, and we know heís not a big fan of Midlandís native Griffith worshipping religion. So is he mounting a full assault, no holds barred, monsters and all, attack on the Holy See & itís allies, and a few familiars took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and found lunch on the beach? Or, perhaps the Ganish is taking out his anger on Silatt and friends for the failure back in the Captial, and Prince S happens to have fled right near Guts and company with a slew of crocodile assassins on his tail.


If that was the Ganishka crocs we see in 230, then i guess this might be the most possible reason



Before i forget... did the boy show something special?  ;D
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #117 on: April 23, 2004, 10:32:36 AM »
Downsize that damn Ava :o
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #118 on: April 23, 2004, 10:45:21 AM »

WHAT A FANTASTIC DEMONSTRATION OF THE NEW CHAPTER. IT MAKES ME LUCKY TO BE AROUND.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
And the game plays on people's backs and they don't even have a clue about it, wasting their energy because their attention is distracted by the rulers' game itself.
Pay attention people. Watch your back!

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #119 on: April 23, 2004, 10:59:01 AM »
Sorry about second posting but the above is dedicated to expressing my enthusiasm.
What I wanted to say is... HOLY JESUS BABY!!!
Have you seen last pic???  :o   :o   Is this TRUE ASTRAL or what?
[size=0.2]P.S. This is the bomb for the wild speculation that is coming [/size]
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #120 on: April 23, 2004, 11:36:52 AM »
Nice chapter ! thanks a lot !
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #121 on: April 23, 2004, 11:37:46 AM »
downsize my ass, its on the default list!!

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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #122 on: April 23, 2004, 11:39:17 AM »
I cant see anything
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #123 on: April 23, 2004, 11:44:49 AM »
Do you have Bit Torrent to download it !?!?




I want that kind of familiar :P
The spell Schierke want to cast is the same she casted on top of the church (like asmer said on page 4 of thing thread)   IF i take Graywords translation by the word... or maybe i dont understand right. She's casting "formation of the four kings" and what make me think it's the same as summoning the 4 spirits is that she mention about not being on holy ground or something..
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Re:Episode 239
« Reply #124 on: April 23, 2004, 12:04:58 PM »
Do you have Bit Torrent to download it !?!?


Oh shit... How can i do that?  :-\
It piss me off when I see weaklings, it make me want to crush them