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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #150 on: June 18, 2004, 03:03:16 AM »
Shut up.

Griffith

Fine if u want me to talk about serpico, then if that ever happens then miura wants to end serpico's charecter real quick. I wouldnt mind another massacer happening like the 1st eclipes when miura kills off everyone except guts and Casca... (and puck, and Schierke, and um anyone else aside from ish, serp, and farn).
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #151 on: June 18, 2004, 03:25:00 AM »
Talk about Griffitīs ElfKing Alliance!!!  ;D

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #152 on: June 18, 2004, 03:30:52 AM »
maybe guts will have more white hair when the helmet comes off.

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #153 on: June 18, 2004, 03:36:10 AM »
I hope not, with the bit of white hair it makes him look interesting, but any more would just start making him look middle aged.

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #154 on: June 18, 2004, 03:55:25 AM »
No, Isidro is on the other side in that panel.

-Griffith

Sorry, must disagree, he is exactly where the light appear. So Puck, may, even if unlikely, be the spirit... (feeling heroic, him being guts friend and all)


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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #155 on: June 18, 2004, 04:11:22 AM »
Puck would never say stop in that manner though......

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #156 on: June 18, 2004, 04:48:33 AM »
agreed, i think he would say something to the effect of:

"kwaiketsu  zu-paaaaacku!!"  or something like that...

and i thought we laid to rest the whole griffith-elf king alliance thing...

i wonder what would happen right after, though.  with all the injuries, they might want SK to carry him, or something.
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #157 on: June 18, 2004, 05:54:01 AM »
If it were Puck he would have done something when he first went crazy from the armor.

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #158 on: June 18, 2004, 05:55:59 AM »
Well, I do have said it is unlikely, but well... ;D

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #159 on: June 18, 2004, 06:48:26 AM »
Talk about Griffitīs ElfKing Alliance!!!  ;D

I still think it might be possible that he has a hidden agenda when they meet him, unlikely but who knows.

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #160 on: June 18, 2004, 06:50:25 AM »
Sorry, must disagree, he is exactly where the light appear.

No, he isn't. To use your own images...


He is here, on page 16.


But, as you can see, on page 17 Isidro has moved to the opposite side. If you look at the full page, you'll actually see him moving when Serpico orders everyone to stay behind him. Apparently, Miura wanted to make it that much more abundantly clear that it's the baby. ;)

So Puck, may, even if unlikely, be the spirit... (feeling heroic, him being guts friend and all)

Yes, and it may also be

Feeling that he needs more face time in the series....

Hahahahaha!

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P.S. Face time! Get it!? ;D

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #161 on: June 18, 2004, 09:39:54 AM »
I think it`s quite obvious that the Elfking is a good entity and that is out of discussion he`d never allie to Griffit!
I think instead he`ll be the greatest allie of Guts and he`ll definitely give him the right hints to destroy Griffit`s Power...
In my opionion is not to exclude that after Griffit got Rid of Flora, he`ll think to take care of him as the Elfking is a powerful Magic user as well, he might be a greater Danger for him!

Just my opinion...

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #162 on: June 18, 2004, 12:58:33 PM »
I think it`s quite obvious that the Elfking is a good entity and that is out of discussion he`d never allie to Griffit!
I think instead he`ll be the greatest allie of Guts and he`ll definitely give him the right hints to destroy Griffit`s Power...

Sorry to burst your bubble there, but I canīt say that there is a good guy and a bad guy here.

The only thing that Griffith wants is his own country, sure he might have had to kill a few people here and there, betray his subordinates and the likes, but wasnīt that all for the cause?

And sure he did rape Casca, but wasnīt that more Femto and not the reincarnation of Griffith? Cause Iīm finding it hard to place the two of them in the same light. To me Femto and Griffith are 2 different characters.

Iīm getting a bit tired of the whole stereotypical, Guts is good! Everybody against Guts is BAD! Dude, thatīs so lame.

Of course Iīm rooting for Guts, but do you think heīs a nice guy? I donīt know honestly, he has done some terrible things too.

The only thing I am certain of is that Ganishka is the bad guy in my eyes. Not Griffith nor Guts. Sure itīs all about perspective and yeah, Iīd like to see Guts punishing Griffith, but am I the one to decide? No, Miura is. And I donīt think it will end as simply as that.

There is no good vs. bad. You canīt even call the God Hand evil or bad. Just fucked up.

I donīt even know what a good reason for the Elfking would be to help Guts. Maybe he doesnīt even want to be involved with Guts.
I mean, look. Griffith is a pretty powerful guy. I donīt think many people besides Ganishka and Guts would want to oppose the guy without a good reason. Thatīs why I believe that there wonīt be a 2 side struggle.

I think there will be lots of backstabbing in the future.

Just putting in my 2 cents.
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #163 on: June 18, 2004, 01:08:37 PM »
I donīt even know what a good reason for the Elfking would be to help Guts. Maybe he doesnīt even want to be involved with Guts.

It seems like Griffith want to destroy every magic user out there, so he may want to kill the Elf King as well. I don't know, but according to SK's words, he must have some kind of magical/supernatural powers, making him a threat to Griffith rise to power.
And in a way Puck is a "compatriot" of his, too.

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #164 on: June 18, 2004, 01:38:13 PM »


Well i don`t desagree with your words, in fact in my Post there is no mention of Guts being the good one and Griffit the bad one!
I was just commenting the posts about Alliance between Elfking and Griffit that again i repeat in my opinion is out of discussion for what is my opinion.
I don`t see any commont interest between what seems such a powerful but peaceful and wise entity as Elfking and one like Griffit that good or bad is gonna destroy the human world and everyone that oppose to him....
I already posted in other threats that to me Griffit is not the personification of the "darkness" but a human with good and bad as Guts as well.......
This doesn`t change, anyway, that what he`s going to do it`s not the best for the destiny of the humanity!

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #165 on: June 18, 2004, 01:40:39 PM »
To me Femto and Griffith are 2 different characters.

Well, you're wrong.

There is no good vs. bad. You canīt even call the God Hand evil or bad. Just fucked up.

Yeah, and we can't call the Idea (of Evil) evil either.

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #166 on: June 18, 2004, 01:48:12 PM »
Yes, and it may also be

Feeling that he needs more face time in the series....

Hahahahaha!

-Griffith

P.S. Face time! Get it!? ;D

I'd have to agree. I think that's who the unknown spirit is
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #167 on: June 18, 2004, 02:01:34 PM »
rubbereruben,
why does Ganishka is a bad guy in your eyes, while Griffith isn't (or Guts)?
Is is a matter of aesthetics?
Just curious
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #168 on: June 18, 2004, 02:27:52 PM »
I thought the exact same thing. You know, I don't think Ganishka has less moral than Wyald, for example. Imo, he's just a damn powerful apostle who knows it and wants to benefit from it with conquiering midland. I think he fallows the flow of causality Idea forecasted while attaquing the reincarnated Femto.
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #169 on: June 18, 2004, 04:49:40 PM »
I thought the exact same thing. You know, I don't think Ganishka has less moral than Wyald, for example. Imo, he's just a damn powerful apostle who knows it and wants to benefit from it with conquiering midland. I think he fallows the flow of causality Idea forecasted while attaquing the reincarnated Femto.
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So what different morality does Griffith have that makes him better?
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« Reply #170 on: June 18, 2004, 05:48:13 PM »
Returning to the lost limb discussion, I think its kind of unrealistic how Guts uses his mechanical arm. He uses it like it is his real hand! he can grab things with it!!! (eventhough its just  piece of metal) and the magnet explanation just doesnt make much sense: how can the magnet resist the tremendous torque needed to swing the sword? and how does Guts remove his left hand from the sword? is it an intelligent magnet?

IMO Godo should have just said it was a magic mech arm and be done with it. Something like "Guts, that mech arm is just a piece of metal I found, but legends say that the more it is used the more it begins to react to its user's will".

Also, it would be cool if Guts got back his missing eye and maybe integrate his mech arm better through Hanafubuku's magic.

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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #171 on: June 18, 2004, 05:49:17 PM »
I thought the exact same thing. You know, I don't think Ganishka has less moral than Wyald, for example. Imo, he's just a damn powerful apostle who knows it and wants to benefit from it with conquiering midland. I think he fallows the flow of causality Idea forecasted while attaquing the reincarnated Femto.
Guil

I don't think it's quite that simple. I think the fight between Ganishka and Griffith are more like Evil versus Evil, but with Griffith disguised as the white sheep, so to speak :D.
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #172 on: June 18, 2004, 08:26:17 PM »
I don't think it's quite that simple. I think the fight between Ganishka and Griffith are more like Evil versus Evil, but with Griffith disguised as the white sheep, so to speak :D.
What I said doesn't exclude this, that's why I mentioned 'reincarnated Femto' and not Griffith, btw.

As for you, xechnao, wha ?  :-\
I did NOT say Griffith was better than Ganishka, and in my last post, I was agreeing with your comment on rubbereruben's post. Well, 'must have been some misunderstanding there. =_=
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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #173 on: June 18, 2004, 09:34:35 PM »
P.S. The Berserk special preview is the equivaliant of Canadian softcore porn they show in hotels; it's a close up of the guys ass for 20 minutes. On that note, it'll probably be Serpico's face or something stupid like that. ;D

Griffith, I think you' ve brought a misfortune



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Re:Episode 242
« Reply #174 on: June 18, 2004, 11:30:03 PM »
Maybe I imagined it, but it looked like the spirit was confronting the Berserker armor, rather than the Beast itself (which would all be playing out inside Guts' mind.) :( Can Schierke see the spirit?  :)Perhaps the whole group can see it? :D What would their reaction to THAT be? :o
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