Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith

Alucard · May 24, 2005

CnC said:
dear god, it hurts to hear that... I can only pray they fix that in the DVD...
seriously, this is one time its ok, Lucas... please?

Have you learned nothing young Berserk fan? If anything Lucas will enhance it like the thud in episode IV or "Carrie!".

"George Lucas" definition: Man without pacing, someone who tries to outdo his past movies and ruins his own franchise, someone who makes movies with large continuity holes, someone who thinks the first take is always the best take.

dwarfkicker said:
Actually seeing Anakin as a man being a bit of a puss and then seeing him as the merciless Darth Vader shows a great contrast between light and dark. Given Anakin's change in sides could have been shown and developed better. But what did you expect? A merciless jedi becomes a merciless sith lord?

That would be more believable than a pussy becomes a bad-ass without split personality.

Griffith · May 24, 2005

Yeah, the sad truth is, he doesn't change, he's just a stupid pussy, great revelation about a classic movie character. Or, as I'm going to look at it, these prequels don't even exist, they're fanfics, which that isn't far from the truth. There is no Star Wars after 1998. =)

Anyway, I think a lot of people are missing the point that such fanboy details such as Anakin's transformation or the "No!" scene don't much matter in the face of the whole movie being a complete failure at the most basic levels of filmmaking. This wasn't a great movie somewhat spoiled by an awkward moment. It was total crapola, plain and simple. People are in denial now, but just like the last stinker, in 6 months everyone will recognize this for the shit it is.

Hell, the "NOOOOOOOO!" is the best part of the movie; the only genuine moment, albeit ironically.

CnC · May 24, 2005

Rage Incarnate said:
Have you learned nothing young Berserk fan?

young berserk fan?

Psymont 2.0 · May 24, 2005

Aazealh said:
http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

LOL

Alucard · May 24, 2005

CnC said:
young berserk fan?

Like "young padawan". A Star Wars reference that has nothing to do with your age.

dwarfkicker · May 24, 2005

Looks like this movie just totally rubbed you the wrong way, eh Griff?

Griffith · May 24, 2005

dwarfkicker said:
Looks like this movie just totally rubbed you the wrong way, eh Griff?

I don't like crap, and I was quite fond of Star Wars in my childhood, so turning it into crap does admittedly rub me the wrong way. On the other hand, it's a good time for fans of both Star Wars and crap, now that they are largely synonymous.

Oltobaz · May 24, 2005

Think they'll make a burnt Anakin figure?

dwarfkicker · May 24, 2005

I don't like crap, and I was quite fond of Star Wars in my childhood, so turning it into crap does admittedly rub me the wrong way. On the other hand, it's a good time for fans of both Star Wars and crap, now that they are largely synonymous.

I find it amusing that you state your opinion as if it were the be all end all of things ;D

I don't think I've seen anyone on any message board post so passionately about something they hate.

Oltobaz · May 24, 2005

dwarfkicker said:
I find it amusing that you state your opinion as if it were the be all end all of things ;D

I don't think I've seen anyone on any message board post so passionately about something they hate.

Hate leads to suffering.

dwarfkicker · May 24, 2005

Heh, he must've suffered watching this movie. Griffs well on his way to embracing the dark side ;D

Opie · May 25, 2005

The only problem I had was with the paceing and some awkward scenes here and there. For the most part I felt it was actually a coherant and enjoyable movie.

What?! Am I sucking Lucas's dick because he have me some good movies back in the day? No I'm a guy who liked a good popcorn movie that had alittle mythology behind it. I'm a fan of the greek tragedy, the shakspearian flawed hero I like melodramatic emotion. It was all there behind the gloss and childish intent of the saga.

Uriel · May 25, 2005

The well-known "Noooooooooooooooooo" was so lame. A "FUCKER!!!!" would have been much more appropriate. If Titanic can have the word fuck, Lucas could have done it

All-in-all, the movie was kind of crap. Bad acting from start to finish.

Begemot · May 25, 2005

"Griffith No More!" said:
Yeah, the sad truth is, he doesn't change, he's just a stupid pussy, great revelation about a classic movie character.

I'm in agreement with this. How hard is it to have a frustrated character who doesn't come off as a whiny bitch?

Anyway, I think a lot of people are missing the point that such fanboy details such as Anakin's transformation or the "No!" scene don't much matter in the face of the whole movie being a complete failure at the most basic levels of filmmaking. This wasn't a great movie somewhat spoiled by an awkward moment. It was total crapola, plain and simple. People are in denial now, but just like the last stinker, in 6 months everyone will recognize this for the shit it is.

Lucas can come up with an interesting story ideas, but can't execute them. Most of the dialogue was laughable, especially the romantic lines. I'm not knowledgable enough in movie-making to mention anything about pacing or what have you, other than the movie felt off.

Hell, the "NOOOOOOOO!" is the best part of the movie; the only genuine moment, albeit ironically.

I think Obi-Wan's parting words to Anakin were pulled off well.

On another note, was I the only one who preferred the lightsaber battles in the original trilogy to those of episodes 1-3?

mahlernut · May 25, 2005

Woland said:
On another note, was I the only one who preferred the lightsaber battles in the original trilogy to those of episodes 1-3?

Nope. Though the New Hope fight isn't really up to snuff (but c'mon, Alec Guinness wasn't exactly young when he did the movie; imagine if they'd actually used Chris Lee in the fights in AotC and RotS instead of just pasting his face to an embarrasing digital body), but I can overlook that. But I found the lightsaber fights in Empire and Jedi to be infinitely superior to those in the prequels, which in the end were just a bunch of fancy choreography and flashy backgrounds to distract us from the utterly vapid characters (and I'll admit, they look exciting at the time...) and turgid drama. I actually gave a damn in the fights between Luke and Vader, which is more than I'll ever say about the prequels.

EDIT: On the other hand, something good did come from the prequels:

The Billboard Country Music Top Ten: If Kenny Chesney Were Anakin Skywalker and
Renée Zellweger Were Padmé Amidala
http://fametracker.com/blue_moons/misc_chesney_anakin.shtml

Griffith · May 25, 2005

And this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment.cfm?id=566002005

Two suffer horrific burns in Star Wars laser stunt

ALEX MILLSON

TWO young Star Wars fans were critically ill in hospital last night after a homemade "lightsaber" blew up and showered them in burning petrol.

The 17-year-old girl and a man aged 20 were believed to have filled a fluorescent light tube with petrol before setting it alight.

However, their stunt went tragically wrong when the device exploded in their faces, setting their clothes alight and leaving them with horrific burns.

The horrific accident was revealed when firefighters were called out after reports of a blaze in woodland in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire.

When the crew arrived at the wood, the fire was out and they discovered the pair lying in agony on the ground.

The man is believed to have suffered more than 40 per cent burns to his body.

Firefighters gave the stricken pair first-aid while waiting for paramedics to arrive. They were taken to a local hospital and later transferred to a specialist burns unit in Chelmsford, where they remained in a critical condition last night.

Specialists said the burns were so horrific that each of the patients had only a 50 per chance of survival.

A spokesman for Hertfordshire Constabulary said investigations into the incident were ongoing to determine exactly what had happened.

The tragedy came just days after the sixth Star Wars film - Revenge of the Sith - was released at cinemas across the UK.

It boasts an impressive lightsaber battle between Ewan McGregor's character, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and his fellow Jedi, Anakin Skywalker, played by Hayden Christensen.

Just like Darth Vader! ;D

nomad · May 25, 2005

Overall, I really wasn't expecting anything... But when you're co-worker is a Star Wars fanatic, you are cursed to know every fucking scene before the damn movie comes out. Anywho, my complaints about this movie are quite more simple than most of you guys. Such as Padme getting chocked for 5 seconds, and all of a sudden she looses her will to live?!?!. And my favorite "soap-operish" scene where Obi-Wan turns to the camera covering his mouth saying "the killed the young-lings". Bad Georgy BAD!

Smith · May 25, 2005

I dont think the fight between Obi and Anakin was that spectacular... Even the fan made film was signficantly better...

SaiyajinNoOuji · May 25, 2005

"Griffith No More!" said:
RETARDED PEOPLE STORY
Just like Darth Vader! ;D

I see nothing wrong with this, let the stupid people kill themselves.... think about how much of a better world it would be. ;D

bph · May 25, 2005

I would dare any Star Wars fan out there to show me a difference between George Lucas and Ed Wood...other than Lucas is fat, of course.

TheSkyTraveller · May 25, 2005

"Griffith No More!" said:
And this:

http://news.scotsman.com/entertainment.cfm?id=566002005

Just like Darth Vader! ;D

Dammit! I saw this last night, but you beat me to it! I was saying the same thing; at least they can dress up like Anakin at the next comic convention.

nir085 · May 25, 2005

Woland said:
I'm in agreement with this. How hard is it to have a frustrated character who doesn't come off as a whiny bitch?

It wouldn't be hard at all: it would just be boring.

On another note, was I the only one who preferred the lightsaber battles in the original trilogy to those of episodes 1-3?

Well, you should be! :'(Someday, you will be!

Oltobaz said:
Think they'll make a burnt Anakin figure?

They already have:
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.rebelscum.com/toys2005/ROTSanakin50-1.jpg

"Griffith No More!" said:
Darth Vader is basically the biggest pussy in the universe now, yeah, and he killed some kids too, what a badass. Maybe he molested them first to be extra cool.

*shrugs* Still makes him more honorable/moral than Guts; there's no way you'll agree, but it's true. It's not like he only killed Jedi kids, though...

Anyways, here's my lengthy review:
http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dfurv?mid=1808406061&iid=255-2628513&s=rc_d&rvid=255-466778&i=0&ys=ICviR8V9TuJJHv0vVRbpLg--

It may offend some of those on this thread, especially the ones who say "ALL new SW is CRAP because I say so and my opinion is right (if you disagree, you're WRONG!!!!!)". But oh well.

I'd be happy to argue with any of you, as long as it doesn't become personal.

Aazealh · May 25, 2005

nir085 said:
It wouldn't be hard at all: it would just be boring.

It would be good story-telling.

nir085 said:
*shrugs* Still makes him more honorable/moral than Guts; there's no way you'll agree, but it's true.

Well actually no, it's not.

nir085 said:
Anyways, here's my lengthy review:
http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dfurv?mid=1808406061&iid=255-2628513&s=rc_d&rvid=255-466778&i=0&ys=ICviR8V9TuJJHv0vVRbpLg--

No offense dude, and nothing personal, but it's quite bad. :-\

Griffith · May 25, 2005

I don't hate it, I'm not just a Prequel hater or whatever lame defense people are using to dispute my opinion; it's just a bad movie, end of story. And I'm not going to rationalize that fact away just because it's "Star Wars." It's just kinda ridiculous to see, you know?

Also, what is this big whine about, "OMG, you believe in your opinions!" Yeah, because I have valid reasons to have them, that's why I don't pussyfoot around; everyone should give it a try sometime. Maybe it's so offensive in this case because deep down all you Ep. III defenders know I'm right. 8)

Anyway, these are some deep parallrels with the movie here:

"FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IT, IS NOT A SHITTY MOVIE!"

"THEN YOU'RE LOST!"

Can't beat me, I've got the high ground. ;D

dwarfkicker · May 25, 2005

"FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IT, IS NOT A SHITTY MOVIE!"

"THEN YOU'RE LOST!"

Can't beat me, I've got the high ground.

That was good ;D

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